[03:00] heh, classic. Just got an email from one of my vps providers, telling me my host has gone over it's bandwidth allowance. [03:00] which sounded wrong because it's just a failover MX. it sees very little traffic at all [03:00] their web portal says it's at "41.8 TB of 500 GB Used / -44409274698 KB Free". I call shenanigans. [03:03] haha [07:53] wb everyone ;) [07:53] * dogmatic69 survived === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia [08:01] every time i create a vm virtual box dies creating the space for a fixed drive :/ [08:02] Bad blocks on the drive maybe? [08:02] Oooo am at barking already only a few stops to go [08:09] Paladine: its a newish drive, how can i check? [08:09] been at 0% for 15 minutes now [08:10] Run e2fsck or something [08:14] Good morning peeps! [08:14] o/ [08:17] Nearly at fenchrurch [08:17] you cant do a disk check on a disk that is mounted? [08:17] my pc has one HDD only === slackthu1bz is now known as slackthumbz [08:23] dogmatic69: tell it to force a check on next boot [08:25] bigcalm: i reboot when the power trips :/ [08:30] Morning all! [08:31] tired virtual machine manager and it created the 8gig drive in < 1 second [08:31] virtual box ftl [08:36] unity 2D crashes on my vm === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson [08:46] shauno: Looks like 'apt-get install vnstat' time. [08:49] wow, Radio 4 is a little colourful today. [08:52] Morning all! [08:56] Hola [08:56] aloha === gmb` is now known as gmb [09:05] Konnichiwa [09:05] YES! [09:06] popey: Yes? [09:06] TSB [09:06] Yes. [09:06] * czajkowski pokes gord [09:06] I need someone to replace my lack of davmor2 and MooDoo [09:07] こん一羽? [09:07] oh, i'm no replacement for them, far to nice [09:08] Morning all [09:08] They are far too nice? [09:08] O_O [09:09] ಠ_ಠ [09:10] gord: true [09:10] gord: who else do you suggest [09:11] czajkowski, i do not trust this Daviey fellow [09:11] gord: ya know you make a truely valid point, however I need to be nice to Daviey he has a package for me I need from him in the coming weeks. [09:16] hi [09:16] hi [09:17] gord: then I cant pick on AlanBell as he is the leader [09:17] gord: cant pick on popey as he knows all [09:17] gord: so it has to be you till Davmor2 comes in [09:17] otherwise I'll scare others if I pick on them [09:17] Heh [09:17] Poor gord [09:17] * AlanBell has immunity \o/ [09:17] <--------- my logic works wonders [09:17] * bigcalm eyes czajkowski [09:18] AlanBell: read that as James Bond villain saying "Diplomatic immunity" [09:20] bigcalm: that was exactly how I said it :) [09:20] Nice one :D [09:20] actually Die Hard I think, the SA chap [09:20] Oh sod, yes [09:20] I feel silly now [09:22] Thanks bigcalm [09:23] TheOpenSourcerer: no patches? [09:23] It's fine. [09:23] Good show :) [09:24] It will probably be moving home in the next couple of months so will have to go down :-( [09:25] If you had it on a UPS you could move it bit by bit towards its new home [09:28] hey , anyone here who can tell me how to keep window always on top in linux using script?? [09:29] * bigcalm wants to make a joke about Windows and market share, but shall refrain [09:30] Sorry, I don't know :) [09:31] okay thanks.. [09:35] anyone see that blog post on planet about UEFI secure boot? [09:36] Seen links to it all over twitter and G+. Not got around to reading it [09:37] could stop you installing your own OS [09:37] Yes, so I hear [09:39] it looks nasty to me [09:39] I wouldn't worry - it will almost certainly be hacked and broken before it's even released. [09:40] Would it be a case for the monopolies commission? [09:40] it will end up like region coded DVD players, you will have to send your laptop off somewhere to be chipped before it will boot linux [09:43] "Windows" and "security" crop up a great deal in the same articles. I'll just say: https://twitter.com/#!/opensourcerer/status/116441785110233088 [09:44] TheOpenSourcerer: is that an internet facing server? [09:44] * bigcalm steps back [09:44] oimon: No. [09:45] ok..otherwise i would have asked for IP address ;) [09:45] I wouldn't tell you anyway :P [09:45] 10.0.0.1 I think :) [09:45] nah, [09:45] i've had servers go over 1000 days before [09:45] 2 [09:46] 64 bytes from 10.0.0.2: icmp_req=1 ttl=62 time=45.8 ms [09:46] * oimon thinks of privilege escalation bugs in the kernel over the last 571 days [09:46] unless you have ksplice of course [09:48] bah - of course. it is accessible via AlanBell's network... Hmm, better do an nmap sweep of his house. [09:48] yikes! [09:50] Something is changing € into ¤ in emails I'm sending via PHP, but I can't work out what. [09:55] bigcalm: looks like your encoding may be wrong, maybe you're sending our ISO-8859-1 encoding headers instead of ISO-8859-15 (where ¤ is replaced by €), better off using UTF-8 anyway [09:55] s/sending our/sending out/ [09:56] other than Scan and Ebuyer what's a reasonable online UK etailer that people trust ? [09:56] pancro: it's using UTF-8 [09:57] ikonia: dabs.co.uk [09:57] Or .com, I forget [09:57] ahh, I forgot dabs [09:57] I thought they had gone under for some reason [09:57] BT bought them [09:57] totally forgot about them [09:57] thank you [09:57] Amazon are good for bits as well [09:58] I was pondering that, but they are mostly "market place" stores that I've had bad experiences with market store on amazon [09:58] if it doesn't come from amazon it's self I'm cautious now [09:58] bigcalm: just wondering because of the fact that ¤ was replaced by € in newer 8-bit codepages... just wondering if it's UTF-8 through and thourgh or if there's a link in the chain still working with 8 bit characters. do other UTF-8 characters show up ok? [09:58] I've only had one semi-bad experience with a market place seller. YMMV [09:59] I've had some good ones too, but the risks and issues dealing with the bad ones put me of [09:59] off [09:59] Fair enough [10:00] who are the reputable SSD brands at the moment, I'm assuming OCZ are still a core player [10:00] my hard disk just died so I'm tryin to get a replacment, and scan have have SSD's on "pre order" for about 3 months, [10:02] ikonia: I have an OCZ and would buy again (if I had the money) [10:02] morning all [10:03] Hi davmor2. You need to apologise to gord for your late arrival [10:03] ikonia: insight [10:03] oimon: that's a name I've not heard before [10:04] bigcalm: why this is the time I arrive :P [10:04] gord: ^ what's he on? [10:04] Nice. AlanBell 's house is only exposing two entry points. [10:05] TheOpenSourcerer: front door and back door ;) [10:07] bigcalm: what you on about dude? [10:09] davmor2: czajkowski needed somebody to pick on and you weren't here [10:10] czajkowski: prod, don't annoy gord, you'll upset him you big bully :P [10:11] * davmor2 passes gord a cup of tea there you go chap calm down and have a brew [10:15] Morning all [10:20] * czajkowski kicks davmor2 well get your arse on earlier then [10:21] davmor2: let me tell you about my fun week shall I [10:21] czajkowski: No you need to let it stew and boil over for when I get on [10:21] davmor2: I lack patience how do you not know this by now [10:22] czajkowski: I do know it but I figure it would annoy you all the more :P === j0nr_ is now known as j0nr [10:45] http://primaxstudio.com/stuff/scale_of_universe/ [10:46] ^^ cool way to spend 3 minutes [10:54] anyone know how to strip all UserTextFrames out of mp3 files using eyeD3? [10:56] * czajkowski hands davmor2 a cuppa tea [10:59] * davmor2 looks at czajkowski blankly tea............you gave me tea.............and you think I don't know you :P [11:00] * czajkowski gives davmor2 a digestive bickie to dunk [11:00] now shrup ya pup [11:02] * davmor2 goes down stairs pours away the tea and makes a coffee to dunk the bickie in === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum [11:02] Anybody know who KiltedUberGeek is on twitter? [11:03] davmor2: don't say I was never nice [11:03] you all saw that he poured the tea I made for him [11:04] czajkowski: I don't drink tea you should know that by now :P [11:04] pff drink tea all english men do [11:05] And some Irish ladies [11:06] me I love my tea [11:06] need _tea to function [11:21] how can i force kill some process? got a VBox something or an other running at 98% and making my cpu +- 95'C [11:21] cant do it from htop with sigkill etc [11:21] sudo kill -9 pid [11:21] tried killall [11:22] says no pid found, but htop says its pid 677 [11:22] I ye... [11:22] uhoh [11:22] ps aux | grep something relevant should give you the right pid [11:23] 1000 439 97.3 0.0 0 0 ? Zl 08:56 200:40 [VBoxSVC] [11:24] so it's 439 then [11:24] sudo killall -9 439 [11:24] 439: no process found [11:24] How come your uid isn't your username? [11:24] uhm [11:24] killall does process name [11:24] dont do killall pid [11:24] do kill -9 pid [11:24] kill does process number [11:24] sudo kill -9 pid [11:24] or killall name [11:24] not killall [11:25] or sudo service vboxsvc stop [11:25] killall name does nothing, kill -9 pid has no error, still running [11:25] guys its restarting [11:25] you can't kill it because the process already died and restarted [11:25] thus it got a new pid [11:26] you need to kill whatever is restarting it [11:26] popey to the rescue \o/ [11:26] :D [11:26] oh no [11:26] its going... [11:26] in htop the pid is always 677 [11:27] the pxu grep still says 439 [11:27] dogmatic69: ps -ef | pastebinit [11:27] ps aux | pastebinit [11:27] :D [11:27] aux sux dude [11:27] http://pastebin.com/n0Sg3yr7 [11:28] ps -ef give you the parent pid too [11:29] !ping [11:29] another contentless ping... sigh... [11:29] TheOpenSourcerer: in htop it shows my username, not 1000 [11:29] i bet your username is > 8 characters [11:30] dogmatic69 [11:30] :) [11:30] yeah, that's a feature of ps [11:31] czajkowski: yeap but then you should love guinness too and do you? [11:31] oimon: "feature" [11:31] oimon: it's documented, but hard to find [11:32] davmor2: eh no [11:32] czajkowski: so you're not really Irish then :P [11:33] nope half [11:34] czajkowski: only the accent? :) [11:34] yes my accent does make me rather unique in work here [11:34] MartijnVdS: I was thinking more only the attitude :D [11:34] davmor2: I kick your ass [11:34] see [11:35] davmor2: I'll just imagine a badly dubbed Japanese film [11:35] MartijnVdS: oi [11:35] fecker [11:36] czajkowski: swearing in Irish is still swearing madame [11:36] czajkowski: you know the kind I mean then? :) [11:36] MartijnVdS: coming for drinks tomorrow ? [11:36] czajkowski: no, I'm on the wrong side of the North Sea [11:39] :/ [11:39] still running, tried apt-get remove [11:40] just says its still running, stop it first :S [11:42] dogmatic69: apt-get remove won't kill the process in memory. what does lsof -p 439 show [11:42] nothing [11:42] i'm surprised kill -9 439 isn't slapping it [11:43] ~/win 23 [11:44] hmm not impresssed with the new two and a half men :/ [11:46] not satisfied with just one? [11:47] oimon: is there like a -vv option? [11:52] oh yes I'll be talking at a UK flossie event [11:52] on Ubuntu and Ubuntu Women this year === willcooke is now known as willcooke|lunch [12:04] time to be on my best behaviour BBC are here to record [12:04] and I'm on a massive MAC :/ [12:07] i broke down and rebooted the pc [12:09] Hi all o/ [12:10] i wonder how much apple pay the BBC to feature their logo on screen every 60 seconds during an episode of spooks? [12:15] and worse they need to use my HTC phone [12:17] oimon: is that even allowed? Ads in BBC programs? [12:18] it is constant [12:18] i wonder how much they paid czajkowski to use a mac whilst filming! [12:18] i smell corruption [12:18] gord: look a new dell has been bought [12:18] I've been asking where to put it [12:18] hence me getting live cd off AlanBell tomorrow [12:19] i don't mind ;) macs are great too [12:21] spooks already got a soft telling-off in 2005 but it is worse than ever [12:21] Apple must pay more than the fine ;) [12:23] czajkowski, Well done in the rugger! :) [12:24] selinuxium: why thank you [12:24] product placement rules are very weak [12:24] selinuxium: coming for beers tomorrow [12:26] czajkowski, sadly I am still working from home until next week... Leg is getting much better though... [12:26] great to hear it [12:27] Don't think my American football career will be back on though... :) [12:28] awww *hugs* selinuxium [12:29] i've complained to ofcom about spooks [12:32] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14858056 it's over this [12:32] Maybe this is old news by now but was just told briefly that devices coming with Windows 8 would have a means to prevent any form of dual booting with other type of OS such as linux? [12:34] JGJones have a look back up there ^^^ [12:35] (10:35:42) oimon: anyone see that blog post on planet about UEFI secure boot? [12:35] yep [12:36] http://slashdot.org/submission/1794130/How-MS-may-stop-you-from-installing-your-own-OS [12:37] deserves front page prominence [12:37] The good old days of DVD player's that you get chipped is back! [12:39] * popey pokes Seeker` with the top of http://www.hantslug.org.uk/wiki/HugoRandomBenchmark [12:40] Ah well...if they try that with Windows 8 server, it won't be very successful, as windows doesn't have as large a dominance on servers compared to desktops [12:40] it's very likely we could see locked down hardware similar to locked down mobiles === willcooke|lunch is now known as willcooke [12:42] oimon - possibly, but now HTC and Samsung have changed their tune and allowing for bootloaders to be unlocked on their newest devices etc. [12:43] JGJones but what if this is driven by MS who have history of trying to enforce their desktop monopoly through OEMs? [12:43] good luck selling machines in china if you need real versions of windows on them [12:44] oimon, it's possible they could drive this for desktops, but what about servers? Linux does have a healthy share there and OEM will not want to lose sales on that [12:44] as for mobiles - good luck to them, MS have a tiny % (around 2% perhaps) [12:44] it's easier to buy servers without MS preinstalled [12:45] so MS don't really have that strangehold - server vendors would include a bios option to turn off secure boot [12:46] i doubt you will get the same opotion on your laptop [12:46] popey: YOU RAT! [12:46] aye...the desktops is the tricky area...but I'm hoping that EU might not allow it to happen [12:47] ie machines must allow the option to turn off otherwise it's potentially an abuse for monopoly? [12:47] /win/win 1 [12:47] grrrrrr [12:47] hate this ***** keyboard [12:49] czajkowski: I think the word you're looking for is "poo" [12:49] popey: I'm gonna have to buy a better cpu now :( [12:49] MartijnVdS: insert word as apropiate [12:49] :) [12:49] czajkowski: oh you mean "lovely"? [12:50] it's the mac and it's tiny wee keyboard [12:50] So my first guess was close.. "poo", "wee" .... [12:50] *back to work* [12:54] Seeker`: surprised yours at 4GHz is not as fast as a 3.4GHz one [12:55] i want 4ghz :( [12:56] popey: depends on the integer maths stuff I guess. If they shaved 1 clock off the time it takes to get an integer result back... [12:56] TheOpenSourcerer: we need a faster server [12:56] huh? [12:56] http://www.hantslug.org.uk/wiki/HugoRandomBenchmark [12:57] bit surprised the 980ex isn't top [12:57] I guess it has more cores, but isn't quite as screaming fast [12:57] When did you run that? [12:58] when we were commissioning it [12:58] Ah OK - so no load to speak of [12:58] my desktop was idle too [12:58] other than ubuntu desktop running [12:58] I was just doing some time trials using netcat between servers [12:58] and 'watch -d "grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo"' [12:59] nc is approx 33% faster than scp. [12:59] saw most cores at 1600MHz, one at 3400MHz [12:59] I thought it was supposed to turbo up to 3.8GHz [12:59] I AM DISSAPOINT [13:00] why can't OEM's implement an unique OS UEFI startup? To work on it, all OS must have their source opened up? #wishfulthinking #damnitjoethisisn'ttwitter [13:00] one thing I found odd was that sometimes it was faster running in a VM guest than running in the host [13:00] * oimon squeezed into the top 10 [13:00] I was top for quite a long time [13:01] * gord starts looking on amazon for liquid nitrogen cooling [13:02] real 0m6.268s My desktop [13:03] My home server real 1m0.566s ;-) [13:04] hehe [13:04] I'd love to find something slower than the one at the bottom of the list [13:04] It's a *downclocked* VIA C7 [13:06] popey: run it on your nanode ;-) [13:14] * BigRedS swears at innodb a lot [13:14] my phone thinks i am somewhere in the mid atlantic atm, its clock is sooo broken [13:15] haha TheOpenSourcerer [13:15] should get a raspberry pi on the list [13:16] AlanBell: the flossie people are having me speak at their 2 day conf in May [13:16] cheer for the intor to Paula [13:16] I know :) [13:16] *intro [13:18] it might be in Queen Mary University London [13:20] I'm sure I'll find it by then [13:20] got the link to the even if spo can you pm it to me [13:20] I got it yesterday [13:25] its odd that there's almost no AMD CPUs on the benchmark paid [13:25] *page [13:26] maybe people only bother to update when they are in the top 10 [13:27] the non top ten entries being previous high rankers [13:27] or novelty entries [13:27] i have put loads in there [13:27] AlanBell: what's happening maybe at queen mary? [13:27] not just when at top [13:28] popey you're a bit special though [13:28] thanks! :D [13:55] Been playing with Minus... 10GB free online storage and you get an extra gig by inviting others... :) http://min.us/rKuVgho (well, you have to try...) [13:59] a) is it cross platform? [13:59] b) does it work behind proxies? [14:09] what alternative cli print commands are there to lp ? [14:09] i.e. - what does cups use to send the test page to the printer? [14:18] andylockran: it just opens a pipe to itself I guess [14:18] andylockran: /var/run/cups/cups.sock looks useful for that? maybe? [14:20] MartijnVdS: I've got to get an old jaunty server printing to a Zebra [14:20] cupsPrintFiles() in libcups [14:20] had to create a custom ppd and it works fine on lucid and natty [14:21] lp is printing blanks [14:21] well, when asked to print a pdf [14:21] whereas the test page is printed fine [14:21] andylockran: test page could be plain .ps === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [14:44] wahey! [14:44] thanks MartijnVdS that's sorted it :p [14:50] i'm not sure if minus.com actually keep your data private [14:58] MartijnVdS: awesome - thanks for your help :) [15:08] popey, it is multi-platform. Unsure about proxy as I haven't tried.. [15:25] Hello. [15:26] is it possible to put a foursquare widget on my website? by some method? [15:28] brobostigon, http://aboutfoursquare.com/highlight-your-foursquare-venue-on-your-companys-website-or-facebook-page-with-placewidget/ ? [15:28] thank you s-fox :) [15:32] Anyone use fail2ban on there servers ? [15:33] yes. [15:33] Just wondering if its worth the effort to setup, just seeing lots of attempts at ssh [15:34] I've got key based auth on so not getting in any time soon [15:34] wasn't much effort ime [15:34] But just thought it would be worth banning them trying [15:34] Laney: what is the alternate, in your mind? [15:35] alternate to what? fail2ban? [15:35] denyhosts? using a different port for ssh [15:35] yes [15:35] yeah, was debating moving ports as well [15:35] My router sucks though [15:36] Can open new ports but can't forward to different ones :/ [15:36] fail2ban is easy and useful [15:36] diplo: i just moved ssh to another port [15:36] limiting the IPs that can connect [15:36] various [15:37] I did debate about that as well popey, may just do it tonight instead [15:37] Skys T&C's say not to use a non Sky router [15:38] But may just do it anyhoo [15:38] just means you can't get support from them without using their router [15:38] Friend had lots of speed issues using different routers [15:38] me too, but that was mostly because sky are kinda crap [15:38] I replaced my parents' sky adsl router with a netgear one. Works just fine [15:39] Friends dropped from 8mb down to 4mb ish with 2 different routers, one being a draytek 2820 [15:41] reminds me, must reboot mu superhub and enable modem only mode [15:42] Seeker`: oi [15:43] Seeker`: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-scribes can you add AlanBell as an admin of that group? [15:43] Seeker`: given he maintains meetingology, the bot people are now using [15:46] popey: able to reactivate your membership? [15:46] I'm not a member [15:47] i tried to join but its pending [15:47] and only you and ausimage can fix that [15:47] ah [15:47] hmm [15:47] and he is awol [15:47] AIUI [15:47] I can't change people to administrators [15:47] bah [15:48] why not, you're an admin [15:48] only people I can change admin status on is me and ausimage [15:48] yeah, AlanBell isnt in the team [15:48] he tried to join but nobody approved him [15:48] he is now [15:48] ah, so he is [15:49] o/ [15:49] maybe only the owner of the group can create new admins? [15:49] only the owner of a team can make people admins [15:49] SNAP [15:50] should I move the code in there or something? [15:50] is there a process for marking people as long term missing and take control of it? [15:50] yeah [15:51] contact them, see if they can do it out of courtesy [15:51] if they dont respond or tell you to go away, contact lp admins [15:51] in #launchpad [15:51] tried contacting ausimage? [15:51] I have not === user_ is now known as geekMePlease [15:52] How can you set up network manager only handle mobile-broadband? [15:52] would you like to, as you're admin? [15:52] sure [15:52] * I use Wicd for my other connections [15:52] why do you use wicd? [15:53] popey: Yes [15:53] popey: Because, I want to set on and off particular devices and connections [15:54] popey: In network manager, you can set only all connections off or all connection on. [15:54] define "connections"? [15:54] thanks Seeker` [15:55] geekMePlease: i can switch off wired, and switch off wifi individually [15:55] popey: I have many wifi -connections [15:55] you have more than one wifi device? [15:56] popey: Yes, I am a radio-amatour [15:57] wow facebook just changed. [15:58] popey: Is it possible to set up network-manager only handle mobile-broadband? [15:59] i dont know [15:59] i mean, yes [15:59] you can, but I dont know how that affects wicd because I dont use wicd [16:00] popey: I do not understand how network-manager works. Is there any file for its settings? [16:00] AlanBell: You should have been CC'd on the email I sent [16:01] AlanBell: If he doesn't respond, give me a poke after what you feel is an appropriate amount of time and I'll go speak to the guys in #launchpad [16:02] thanks Seeker` ! [16:02] thanks Seeker` [16:07] AlanBell: you now have full access (and +F) in -scribes too [16:10] hmm [16:18] thanks [16:20] Guys any advice here [16:20] ssh-keygen -t rsa [16:21] creates a pub key as expected [16:21] I copy that to authorized_keys [16:21] Not working, when I look at other keys I have put there when I arrow down over them it skips to next one each time [16:21] On the new one it lets me arrow down each line [16:21] Any thoughts... [16:22] Copy and paste from one to another breaking something ? [16:22] diplo: the keys are one very long line [16:22] well [16:22] one key per line [16:22] your editor might be wrapping it strangely [16:22] * MartijnVdS prefers ssh-copy-id these days [16:22] that does it for me [16:22] I was thinking that after typing that [16:22] I keep meaning to try that [16:23] Maybe tomorrows job, just edited the file now [16:23] See if that works [16:23] Thanks MartijnVdS [16:24] GGAAHH [16:24] * MartijnVdS shouts at Banshee [16:24] Method "Set" with signature "s(ii)" on interface "org.gnome.GConf.Database" doesn't exist [16:25] (yes I have a bug number, but it's private) [16:25] yeah it was that, but deo will try ssh-copy-id tomorrow [16:25] has that been round a while ? [16:28] off home [16:28] cya later all [16:41] !ping [16:41] another contentless ping... sigh... [16:41] !pong [16:41] pong is an old atari game. It's fun! [16:41] !ding [16:41] dong [16:41] !poo === MichealH` is now known as Guest53887 === webpigeon_laptop is now known as webpigeon === MichealH` is now known as Guest6567 [17:13] hi ubuntu fans [17:21] lo === daubers_ is now known as daubers [17:27] * daubers is cold [17:36] Evening [17:37] how can i configure cgi-bin folder in ubuntu ??? im using apache2 ?????? [17:38] In the httpd conf [17:38] is there any libraries i have to install to use cgi ? [17:38] or just configure cgi-bin folder ? [17:38] Or if you are using virtual hosts you can define them explicitly in the config files [17:39] I don't think you need any extra modules for cgi-bin but I have never used it so you should check [17:59] hmm, where is my java installed @ :/ [18:00] somewhere in / [18:00] ;) [18:07] opt? [18:11] Nope, but I got it... [18:11] umm, right, why won't my permissions stay the same.. [18:12] I try to give a file +x but it keeps getting removed.. [18:14] czajkowski: prod [18:19] davmor2: oi oi [18:29] So, anyone here on oneiric? :) [18:42] * BigRedS is [18:42] me [18:42] On amd64? [18:42] yeah [18:43] well, not right now, the PC's off, but I can turn it on if you're after a test of something [18:43] Does flash have sound for you? While playing sound using some other app (music from banshee, video from totem, etc.) [18:43] Oooh, I'll give it a go, hang on [18:43] I can play multiple sounds at a time, as long as none of those is Flash [18:48] Oh man, you've just made me remember why I hardly ever turn this on :) [18:51] but, yeah, rhythmbox and iplayer can both make noise at the same time [18:52] hmmm [18:52] BigRedS: latest oneiric? [18:53] ah no, just updating [18:53] I think it's about a week old [18:53] hmm [18:55] because libasound2-plugins:i386 is broken for me, and I think that provides Pulseaudio integration [19:07] yeah, even updated I can do it [19:08] BigRedS: hmm.. do you have the ia32libs package installed? [19:08] ia32-libs, sorry [19:09] oh, wait. I've a 686 kernel [19:09] hm, that wasn't the plan [19:09] that would explain :) [19:09] haha, yeah [19:19] Hello? === N8 is now known as Guest84263 [19:20] hello [19:20] Hi, I'm looking for help installing ubuntu for my system [19:20] great, how far have you got with it? [19:21] I have already burned the disk, and I swapped my hard drive out for a blank one. I am in the stage of installing it right now [19:21] By the way, thank you very much for helping me [19:22] ok, shout if you have any questions as the install goes along [19:22] I'm at one of those points right now [19:23] I have started the install, and when the ubuntu logo with the 5 dots was on there for 10 minutes, It gives me this screen with 3 errors on it [19:24] 10 minutes sounds a bit long to get to the start of the installer [19:25] I don't know, but the first 2 times, I restarted because the num-lock key was not responding after 5 min. [19:25] what machine is it? [19:26] Kinda one I built out of legacy components. :/ Runs great on windows, though [19:26] processor? graphics? [19:26] ram [19:27] old socket 7, 950 mhz. Um, Intel Coppermine, graphics card (old) .5 gig. sdram (also old) [19:27] well that explains the 10 minutes :) [19:28] yeah. I tweaked up windows so it would run smooth, so I kinda forgot how old it was [19:28] that is a pentium 3 right? [19:28] what do you mean? [19:29] the coppermine chip [19:29] yes. I have several others on my desk Lol. [19:29] 950 Mhz. socket 7 [19:32] You there? [19:33] yeah [19:33] Do you want me to tell you what the error messages are? [19:33] I think that might technically be below the hardware requirements, I was just checking them [19:33] however it should work [19:33] slowly [19:33] what are the errors then? [19:34] even if it does work I think you would enjoy Ubuntu a lot more on a more modern machine, even an Atom motherboard with intel graphics or something would be fine [19:35] and there is a good chance the old graphics card is not supported now [19:35] I know, but I can't afford that kind of stuff. Lol And I'm more into the code, and windows is very buggy sometimes [19:35] So I have to make do with what I have [19:36] try freecycle [19:36] I installed Ubuntu 10.10 on an old 500Mhz PIII laptop (256M RAM) at the weekend over the network (PXE boot) [19:36] Worked OK. [19:36] interesting to know [19:36] i ran an Ubuntu live CD on a 800Mhz Pentium 3 [19:36] Yeah, windows will even work on a 300 mhz. computer with 256 meg. Ram [19:37] The chap bought me two pints for doing it! Yay free beer! :-D [19:37] So I bet that ubuntu should run on my old clunker, right? [19:37] Guest: have you considered any of the versions with lighter desktop environments? [19:37] Guest84263: windows 7? === mgdm is now known as mgdmbot [19:38] Probably Guest84263 although it's a bit hard to tell but you should get some error messages or something rather than just 10 minutes of dots... === mgdmbot is now known as mgdm [19:38] I could not boot from usb, so I had to burn a disc, and I just got the newest. [19:38] HOW DO YOU CHANGE YOUR NICKNAME?? [19:38] /nick nameyouwant [19:38] It might be worth trying the "alternate" cd. It uses a text based installer. [19:38] i recommend Lubuntu [19:39] but you can't have a nick that someone else has === Guest84263 is now known as natesky9 [19:39] ni natesky9 [19:39] hi even [19:39] Yes. I hate being faceless [19:39] haha [19:40] ok, I had it run for 10 minutes, and it seemed like it was reading the disc, then it does this wierd thing where it fills top-left corner with random letter [19:40] first it was Q, now it is U [19:41] says busybox, and operates just like MS-DOS === mgdm is now known as mgdmbot [19:43] ~And for the record, I currently can not try another os at the moment. I am out of discs, and it will not load from flash drive [19:44] Hello? [19:45] try typing "exit" [19:45] AlanBell: if it's busybox, that probably means it can't find the root fs [19:45] which tends to be Bad® [19:45] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=879993 [19:46] whoa! tried that, it said that it could not find the directory of like, 15 files === user is now known as geekMePlease [19:48] so what do do if it keeps bringing me to busybox when I try installing it from the cd? [19:49] Is this: iwconfig wlan0 key off, the right way to disable one of your wifis? [19:49] * it does not seem to have any effect [19:50] geekMePlease: no, it only disables encryption [19:50] natesky9: well you can try the boot options in the forums post I linked to, or upgrade the hardware a bit [19:50] MartijnVdS: What is the right way? [19:50] MartijnVdS: permanent [19:50] when do I hit F6 to bring up grub? [19:50] geekMePlease: do you want to completely disable it? or just disable it for the current boot? [19:51] MartijnVdS: Completely, I have two cards [19:51] geekMePlease: pull one out ;) [19:51] MartijnVdS: Not possible now. [19:51] geekMePlease: does the laptop have a wifi on/off switch? [19:51] MartijnVdS: No [19:52] rfkill - tool for enabling and disabling wireless devices [19:52] geekMePlease: you want to look at that tool [19:52] geekMePlease: apt-cache show rfkill [19:53] when it boots, where do I hit F6 to bring up the GRUB? [19:53] MartijnVdS: Thank you! Need to google a bit about its parameters. === mgdmbot is now known as MGDMBOT [19:53] geekMePlease: "rfkill" is what the function you want is called :) [19:55] Hello? [19:58] Can someone help me? [20:01] Hello? [20:02] Can someone help me? [20:06] natesky9: what's up? [20:07] he left [20:07] oh aye [20:08] Hello, is anybody there? === user is now known as geekMePlease [20:10] MartijnVdS: Network-manager takes the rfkill block out if I use it. [20:11] MartijnVdS: I put rfkill block $IP-Wlan0 to startup-scripts [20:11] How can you configure which devices Network-manager use? [20:13] Hello? [20:15] MartijnVdS: lol, http://askubuntu.com/questions/3677/disable-wireless-on-startup [20:16] well that was a big crash I just had [20:16] natesky9: hi [20:16] natesky9: so when you see the keyboard and person symbol, hit space and you should get to a menu [20:16] not entirely sure you can set the options you want there [20:17] I tried it in a virtual machine and ended up running myself out of memory and ended up rebooting my laptop [20:18] Oh, Had to reboot. Mine froze after 10 minutes [20:19] Is there a way we can chat w/o seeing everything else? [20:20] no, unless you want to pay my consultancy rates :) [20:21] You there? [20:22] there are lots of people here, and I am in 56 other channels with many parallel conversations in progress [20:22] Oh, ok [20:23] Trying to reboot my computer to boot on cd, but it keeps doing network boot even though I have it on last priority [20:24] I got the menu up, what should I go to? (never would have figured this out) [20:25] space, then enter to select english, then f6 to get the other options menu [20:27] check the acpi=off and noapic options and press escape to get out of that menu [20:27] then type in the rest of the line the forum post was on about [20:27] all_generic_ide pci=nomsi [20:27] so you add that bit ^^ to the end of the line of boot options [20:28] and hit return to boot I think [20:28] and wait and hope, and if it doesn't work, get a new computer :) [20:28] or more likele, make one. Lol [20:28] *likely [20:29] Well, right now I think it's froze, I have to wait for it [20:35] well, it's reading the disk right now, I'm not sure if it's working. [20:41] http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11075 that is kind of an expensive but to reproduce [20:41] indeed [20:42] haha [20:46] how do I keep it from booting up in UNDI? [20:46] never mind, I got it up in the menu [20:50] Hey Alen, you there? [22:07] And, relax [22:45] HazRPG: Hey man. Is Facebook on Pidgin not working for you? [22:45] HazRPG: Since today I'm getting the error message "Not Authorized" and I can't use XMPP :( [22:46] samm: i am connected to Facebook chat via xmpp right now [22:46] Pernig: Hmmm I wonder what my problem is then [22:47] I have been poked by several people over a year ago, is it time to respond yet? [22:47] well i am using kopete so i guess it rules out the service having changed [22:49] Arghhh I hate this stupid "Not Authorized" message [22:49] I want to chat [22:52] it would be interesting to know if any other pidgin users can get on [22:53] Pernig: I've fixed it [22:53] Pernig: The solution was to log out of Facebook, and type my username in instead of my email address [22:53] cool [22:53] Pernig: I asked HazRPG because I know he uses FB on Pidgin