[00:00] <michael_p> whats best
[00:00] <michael_p> ssh or vnc
[00:00] <cheako> man 6 random
[00:00] <cheako> michael_p: One is a wrench the other a screwdriver.
[00:01] <stupidhead> okay i'll get to random... but how do i feed the result of find to feh?
[00:01] <jrib> stupidhead: there were 3 options given to you
[00:02] <cheako> stupidhead: Use ' | read fil;  feh --bg-max "$fil"'
[00:02] <alkafoo> michael_p: more like one is a wrench the other is an MMORPG
[00:02] <stupidhead> hmm right not sure how i did it but xargs didn't work first time... works now
[00:02] <boolean> morning: where does one change the file association on ubuntu 10.04 ... all my pdfs have become python files ( association that it )
[00:02] <cheako> alkafoo: i stand corrected.
[00:02] <alkafoo> michael_p: ssh gives you commandline access only ordinarily, VNC is a stream of yoru graphical desktop
[00:02] <alkafoo> cheako: not for long
[00:02]  * alkafoo steals yo legs!
[00:03] <alkafoo> boolean: you mean they have PDF icons?
[00:03] <alkafoo> boolean: or they open in your PDF app?
[00:03] <qin> stupidhead: cd /directory/with/file; lol=$(ls | head -n 1); feh $lol
[00:03] <alkafoo> | shuf
[00:03] <jrib> stupidhead: instead of random, "sort -R" is probably a better option
[00:04] <boolean> alkafoo: actually they are known pdf files but any double click brings gedit as opposed to evince yet both complain about trying to open a python file
[00:04] <cheako> qin: He is not using bash, so $() becomes ``
[00:04] <alkafoo> boolean: so if you manually open them with evince, they load?
[00:04] <boolean> alkafoo: nope .. it too complains about not being able to open a python file
[00:04] <alkafoo> boolean: what makes you think they're PDF files?
[00:05] <cheako> boolean: Use file on them.
[00:05] <stupidhead> using freebsd my sort doesn't have a -R option or would have
[00:05] <boolean> bc I can open them with a pdf reader prior to an update
[00:05] <boolean> Encyclopedia of Weapons of World War II.pdf: PDF document, version 1.4
[00:05] <alkafoo> stupidhead: what about shuf? =)
[00:05] <jrib> stupidhead, cheako: though command substitution, $(), should work in dash too
[00:05] <boolean> i am wondering if a shared lib is causing this mess
[00:06] <alkafoo> boolean: can evince open _any_ PDF?
[00:06] <cheako> How can I switch off compositing in an X session using gnome3?
[00:06] <boolean> alkafoo: none of them
[00:06] <stupidhead> alkafoo: don't appear to have shuf, thanks though!
[00:06] <alkafoo> boolean: okay =)
[00:06] <alkafoo> stupidhead: awe
[00:06] <boolean> even nautilus has them defined as python files
[00:06] <alkafoo> you can always md5sum them all then | sort then parse out the md5 sum =P
[00:07] <cheako> stupidhead:  Did you get it working using read though?
[00:07] <boolean> so back to the original question, where does ubuntu store its file association
[00:07] <alkafoo> boolean: where does GNOME
[00:08] <boolean> alkafoo: true true ... to me they have become synonymous
[00:08] <alkafoo> no doubt in gconf's database somewhere, but it'd be weird if that was your only problem
[00:08] <stupidhead> cheako: no, tried it, gave fil: Undefined variable.
[00:08] <Darkenvy> What ports need to be forwarded to share SMB (samba)?
[00:08] <boolean> alkafoo: well my desktop icons all when wierd too
[00:08] <boolean> is there a way to rebuild this ?
[00:08] <alkafoo> boolean: what'd you do? =P
[00:08] <Darkenvy> Ive been trying to figure this out all day; bypassing my LAN allows successfull smb
[00:08] <boolean> alkafoo: if I knew, i would be asking ;)
[00:09] <stupidhead> jrib: if $() is specific to dash or bash then i can't use it as i'm bourne
[00:09] <jrib> stupidhead: erm, what?
[00:09] <stupidhead> using sh, not bash
[00:09] <jrib> stupidhead: sh is dash on ubuntu by default
[00:09] <setuid> I can't seem to get updatedb to include /home/ in the search, when run as root. /etc/updatedb.conf doesn't have /home in PRUNEPATHS. What else can I check?
[00:10] <cheako> stupidhead: What about xargs?  " | xargs -n1 feh --bg-max
[00:10] <jrib> setuid: do you have encrypted directories?
[00:10] <jrib> setuid: do you have encrypted home directories?
[00:10] <setuid> jrib, yes, encrypted /home/
[00:10] <stupidhead> cheako: yeah, xargs did the trick, minus the -n1 part :) thanks
[00:10] <jrib> setuid: it's probably related to that
[00:10] <setuid> jrib, ok, so how do I get it to be included?
[00:10] <cheako> stupidhead: np
[00:10] <setuid> user-specific updatedb?
[00:10] <jrib> setuid: I don't know offhand
[00:10] <tqrsst> Is there an installation cd that's like the minimal one, but comes with more drivers out of the box? I want control over what packages get installed, but only have a wireless connection, so I can't use the minimal installer.
[00:11] <OvermindDL1> So, what is the best way to figure out why ubuntu keeps locking up within a 30-240 minutes after starting a heavy 3d graphical app?
[00:11] <tqrsst> maybe the server installer?
[00:11] <setuid> ah!
[00:11] <setuid> adding /home/.ecryptfs to PRUNEPATHS
[00:11] <cheako> ane one use gnome3 and gkrellms?  My rellms are stuck and I can't get at the 'handle' needed to move them.
[00:11] <OvermindDL1> And when it locks up, get a nice vertical overlapping blue/black lines...
[00:11] <alkafoo> tqrsst: maybe any live image you like and debootstrap
[00:11] <stupidhead> jrib: using freebsd here. suppose should have started with that
[00:12] <stupidhead> why i wanted sh solution
[00:12] <jrib> stupidhead: this is the wrong channel then...
[00:12] <qin> stupidhead: /j #sh
[00:12] <cheako> I need a way to move a window without using it's title bar.
[00:12] <stupidhead> yeah, realized that but coulodn't get onto #freebsd and figured unix is unix
[00:12] <tqrsst> alkafoo: ubuntootstrap? :)
[00:12] <qin> cheako: Alt-F7
[00:12]  * alkafoo shrugs
[00:13] <jrib> !register | stupidhead
[00:13] <qin> cheako: or wmctrl
[00:13] <stupidhead> thanks
[00:13] <jrib> cheako: there used to be some key combination too (like windows + mouse 1 or something like that)
[00:14] <chaospsychex> i've added a menu entry to 40_custom in grub.d to boot to an ISO but when I ran sudo update-grub the menu entry isn't showing up??????
[00:14] <cheako> qin: what's wmctrl?  This is a window that can't have focus so the Alt-f7 trick didn't work.
[00:14] <chaospsychex> do i have to reboot to see the menu entry ?
[00:15] <qin> !info wmctrl
[00:15] <chris_0076> hmm, any reason that my windows don't update? If I try to drag them around they will not show up until I stop moving the mouse and compiz goes to 100% cpu
[00:15] <jrib> chaospsychex: well you can check that it is in /boot/grub/grub.cfg if you don't want to reboot
[00:16] <chaospsychex> let me reboot
[00:17] <chris_0076> actually, to be more specific, it only happens if I am not dragging the the window along an edge
[00:18] <JoseeAntonioR> Sorry. Does anyone knows the telephone number for Canonical Canada?
[00:19] <JoseeAntonioR> Sorry, does anyone knows the telephone number for Canonical Canada?
[00:19] <cheako> !yay
[00:20] <OvermindDL1> Is there a way to view the dmesg prior to the current running session?  I want to see the last thing in it before the computer locked up
[00:20]  * boolean grumbles
[00:20] <qin> JoseeAntonioR: www.canonical.com/about-canonical/contact/our-offices
[00:20] <JoseeAntonioR> qin The number there is a fax number.
[00:21] <qin> JoseeAntonioR: send fax?
[00:22] <JoseeAntonioR> qin I need to talk by phone.
[00:22] <cheako> OvermindDL1: /var/log/<things> kernel mostly.  One good idea is to use a remote server, this way both the disk and network need to be inaccessible for you to loose your log msgs.  In dire situations serial ports(non-USB) are handy.
[00:23] <OvermindDL1> cheake:  When the system locks up everything goes down, network included, and any files being accessed at the time in a few program become 0-lengthed
[00:24] <boolean> alkafoo: discovered it is a system wide problem
[00:25] <cheako> OvermindDL1: hmm, I'd be suspicious about the claim that files are truncated...  Though in-proper application locking can cause that effect.
[00:25] <OvermindDL1> They are improper applications
[00:25] <emboman> yo
[00:25] <OvermindDL1> Believe you me, I have complained to the makers
[00:25] <ChrisRJersey> emboman: yo
[00:26] <cheako> OvermindDL1: are you using KMS or a text console?
[00:26] <OvermindDL1> KMS?
[00:26] <OvermindDL1> This is on my desktop for note, GUI.
[00:26] <Chheapshot> How do i see cpu usage of processes from terminal in ubuntu?
[00:27] <SIFTU> Chheapshot: top
[00:27] <boolean> is there anyway to run gnome in some form of debug mode?
[00:27] <Chheapshot> SIFTU:  of so simple :D
[00:27] <cheako> OvermindDL1: Yeah, make sure to enable KMS for your video card...  This will allow for logging to the screen, even if every thing goes south.  You will need a camera.
[00:27] <alkafoo> boolean: yeah?
[00:27] <SIFTU> Chheapshot: htop is better :)
[00:27] <boolean> alkafoo: thought it was localized
[00:28] <OvermindDL1> I have a 5mp phone camera, is the the kind you speak of?
[00:28] <boolean> i believe there is a python lib causing a ruckus
[00:28] <OvermindDL1> And how would I enable KMS?
[00:28] <johngalt> you cant run gnome3 in debug mode, because it is a bug. LOL
[00:28] <OvermindDL1> cheako:  You still around, or did the netsplit split us?
[00:28] <cheako> OvermindDL1: Likely done using boot arguments... and openly developed drivers, though closed source drivers might have KMS.
[00:28] <boolean> johngalt: uh using gnome2 here
[00:28] <tjiggi_fo> boolean, rightclick on file and "Open with other application" resets file associations
[00:28] <OY1R> !ping
[00:29] <boolean> tjiggi_fo: did that and fails ...
[00:29] <Chheapshot> SIFTU: How does it differ ?
[00:29] <OvermindDL1> I have to use the binary ATI/AMD video drivers as the open source ones are missing a few features I need, checking about it...
[00:29] <boolean> even ran from CLI
[00:29] <SIFTU> Chheapshot: did you install it and run it.. it has sorting features, color support, kill processes etc etc
[00:29] <cheako> OvermindDL1: Yeah an external device capable of making screen captures.  A USB webcam would not be sufficient.
[00:30] <cheako> OvermindDL1: What features am I missing using the open drivers?
[00:30] <Chheapshot> SIFTU: Yeah just installed it, looks much better thx
[00:30] <cheako> ...asside from OpenCL.
[00:30] <boolean> ugh ... to many libs to go through ( ldd /usr/bin/evince :P )
[00:30] <OvermindDL1> opencl
[00:30] <OvermindDL1> Yes, that
[00:30] <OvermindDL1> Although not using it right at the moment so guess I could switch...
[00:30] <tjiggi_fo> boolean, you need to go thru your /var/log/dpkg/ and see if those updates had any complaints
[00:31] <boolean> tjiggi_fo: there is a start .. thanks
[00:31] <Sonja> should there be a file at /boot/grub/menu.lst  ??
[00:31] <Dns> i installed tftp-server at my os server but i cant download it remotly with using another tftp
[00:31] <Sonja> or was it renamed in newer ubuntu?
[00:31] <Dns> !question i installed tftp-server at my os server but i cant download it remotly with using another tftp
[00:31] <boolean> tjiggi_fo: uh what version of ubuntu r u refering to?
[00:32] <cheako> I want to play PS2 games on my computer so bad...  Kicking developers to use libraries that are not open for every one to use.
[00:32] <tjiggi_fo> boolean, sorry, /var/log/apt/
[00:32] <tjiggi_fo> boolean, Lucid
[00:32] <Lithos84> Sonja: /boot/grub/grub.cfg is the new file.
[00:32] <Sonja> Lithos84:  in which volume is it ?
[00:33] <boolean> tjiggi_fo: k thanks ... bbiab
[00:33] <Sonja> Lithos84:  i have both ubuntu and backtrack and win7 and some other OSes on my laptop
[00:33] <chris_0076> still noone will respond to my problem? I have been asking now for 2-3 weeks =/
[00:34] <cheako> chris_0076: Try once more.
[00:34] <chris_0076> hmm, any reason that my windows don't update? If I try to drag them around they will not show up until I stop moving the mouse and compiz goes to 100% cpu
[00:34] <chris_0076> actually, to be more specific, it only happens if I am not dragging the the window along an edge
[00:35] <chris_0076> using Ubuntu 11.04
[00:35] <Lithos84> Sonja: If you mean which partition, well, it depends on where you installed /boot
[00:35] <chris_0076> q8800 cpu, 220gt gfx
[00:35] <linxeh> I'm running Ubuntu server, with a wireless network card in the machine. How can I configure the wireless network settings using recommended tools / config files?
[00:36] <alkafoo> make sure you're using a driver that's utilizing your GPU
[00:36] <Sonja> Lithos84:  there seems to be a /boot folder in every partition
[00:36] <excelsior> any tips for tweaking ubuntu to run on slower computers?
[00:36] <johngalt> bodhi 1.2 is based on ubuntu and runs real light
[00:36] <Lithos84> Sonja: You have to remember in which partition you installed Ubuntu :)
[00:37] <BarkingFish> excelsior, turning off any graphics rich things like desktop effects and transparency will help
[00:37] <alkafoo> excelsior: how slow?
[00:37] <BarkingFish> probably if you have compiz on, that won't help matters either
[00:38] <cheako> chris_0076: Yeah, this is a problem with your video drivers.  Make sure you don't have any libGL(s) lying around that you don't want to be using.  Use ldd or then environment variable "LD_DEBUG=libs" to discover what libs your X server and compiz are loading.
[00:38] <alkafoo> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde
[00:38] <poundsign> excelsior:  maybe turning off startup apps
[00:38] <Lithos84> excelsior: Replace GNOME with LXDE.
[00:38] <rypervenche> I'm setting up a LUKS encrypted external hard drive. I'm following two difference guides. One says that I need to setup a partition on the /dev/mapper/LUKS, the other doesn't. I didn't make one and I've already put my data on it. Do I need to have a partition on it after it's mapped? And when I fdisk, I get this message. http://pastebin.com/DfgxVphX Do I need to do anything to the drive or is it ok?
[00:39] <cheako> Look at your X logs to make sure the GLX stuff is loading properly.
[00:39] <excelsior> can I install lubuntu desktop or xubuntu desktop? And how do you turn off startups?
[00:39] <chris_0076> cheako, how would I go about starting that?
[00:40] <Lithos84> excelsior: Yes, you can install those desktops.
[00:41] <alkafoo> excelsior: shouldn't need to if you switch to lubuntu: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde
[00:41] <alkafoo> or rather, if you still do, then it's time for a new computer
[00:41] <cheako> chris_0076: Depends on your level of expertise.  You may switch to a VT and login as root, login as you on another VT.  Then as root stop gdm.  As you do "LD_DEBUG=libs startx 2> debug.log"
[00:42] <BarkingFish> !nickspam | Alphaxx
[00:42] <cheako> Then look at the vary long debug.log for lines related to libGL and the like any thing todo with the video drivers.  Then make sure all of the files used are part of your video drivers and not just some file lying around from some other install.
[00:43] <phenom> On login: I have an error from gnome-power-manager that pops up saying "A program is still running". Any ideas how to fix it?
[00:43] <poundsign> excelsior: System-Preferences-Startup Applications,  i think
[00:43] <phenom> Or where I should go for help?
[00:43] <BarkingFish> phenom, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[00:44] <phenom> 10.04 BarkingFish
[00:44] <Alphaxx> BarkingFish i am not spamming !
[00:44] <BarkingFish> Alphaxx, 5 nick changes in under 20 seconds suggests you can't make your mind up. Please pick a nick and preferably stick to it!
[00:44] <phenom> BarkingFish, I "fixed" one bug,, and created another.
[00:45] <phenom> These bugs are killing me.
[00:45] <Alphaxx> BarkingFish i was getting a damn nick cuz all was registered
[00:45] <BarkingFish> phenom, anything up to 11.04 can be handled here, you're in the right place :)
[00:46] <BarkingFish> Alphaxx, I'm not going to argue with you.  It's better if you find a nick to register before you join channels to avoid spamming them to death :)
[00:46] <phenom> Guys, I think I might have to move back to Debian.
[00:46] <phenom> *sigh*
[00:46] <Alphaxx> BarkingFish lol ok
[00:47] <koa> hello
[00:47] <a_> hello
[00:47] <surfnsound> I'm having trouble with pages timing out or not connecting since I installd 10.04. It was  fresh install, not an upgrade. I've tried multiple broswers with no luck, disabled ipv6, pinging several sites shows only 2% loss.
[00:48] <surfnsound> Anyone have anymore ideas?
[00:48] <koa> useing broadband ?
[00:48] <surfnsound> yes
[00:48] <surfnsound> wifi connecting
[00:48] <koa> have you used the pipeline ?
[00:48] <surfnsound> not sure what you mean
[00:49] <koa> ok gona give url just fellow it and see how it go
[00:49] <surfnsound> ok
[00:49] <cheako> can I configure apport to use a proxy?
[00:50] <koa> http://www.mydigitallife.info/speed-up-your-firefox-by-adjusting-your-http-pipelining/
[00:50] <koa> here is it
[00:50] <koa> it will speed up you broadband i'm 100 sure however if you have ping problem
[00:50] <koa> it maybe cos of your dns
[00:52] <chris_0076> cheako, what do you mean by [As you do "LD_DEBUG=libs startx 2> debug.log"]
[00:52] <surfnsound> koa, here is output
[00:52] <surfnsound> mike@Joshua:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
[00:52] <surfnsound> # Generated by NetworkManager
[00:52] <surfnsound> nameserver 68.87.64.150
[00:52] <surfnsound> nameserver 68.87.75.198
[00:52] <FloodBot1> surfnsound: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> !pastebin > surfnsound
[00:53] <koa> ok  you can change your dns to google and see how it go
[00:53] <koa> google dns is 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4
[00:55] <nagchampa> the setuid bit for /usr/bin/screen seems to be set wrong -rwxr-sr-x 1 root utmp 375984 2011-06-07 04:02 /usr/bin/screen
[00:55] <nagchampa> shouldn't it be -rwsr-xr-x ?
[00:59] <nagchampa> nevermind, found this http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/34#comment_13
[01:00] <eross> i installed ubuntu 64bit server on a VM and I can't access the internet although it should work. i think i bjorked my network settings, how do i reset them to 'default' ?
[01:02] <michael_p> stuffed it
[01:02] <surfnsound> koa, do i want to add those entries into resov.conf, or am I changing what is in there now?
[01:04] <koa> 1 sec
[01:04] <koa> to change dns is very easy
[01:04] <koa> go to system
[01:05] <koa> then prefernce
[01:05] <koa> then click on network conections
[01:05] <koa> Network Connections sorry*
[01:06] <koa> then click on broadband
[01:06] <koa> select your connection and click edit
[01:06] <koa> then click on IPV4 settings
[01:07] <koa> on method choice the secand options
[01:07] <koa> (automatic (ppp) adresses only)
[01:07] <koa> this one
[01:08] <koa> you will see 2 boxes unlock down but in the dns server this
[01:08] <koa> 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4
[01:08] <koa> and save it
[01:09] <surfnsound> oh, ok
[01:09] <surfnsound> much easier than I thought
[01:09] <surfnsound> does that require restart?
[01:09] <koa> no
[01:09] <koa> just disconect and connect again
[01:10] <koa> so it change the dns
[01:11] <surfnsound> ok, ill try ot
[01:12] <koa> lemme know how it go
[01:15] <t-minus> how do I set up a channel?
[01:15] <aeon-ltd> t-minus: /join channelname
[01:15] <t-minus> thanks
[01:16] <Alx495> hello
[01:16] <koa> hello
[01:16] <Alx495> I ma a professional newbie! If there is anyone here with some time to spare who could guide me to install mame?
[01:17] <surfnsound> koa, it didn't work :-/
[01:18] <koa> hmmm ok try  Chromium Web Browser
[01:19] <Alx495> someone could please guide me to the correct channel for help?
[01:19] <Alx495> apologies but I am really new to ubuntu
[01:19] <koa> btw is how mush is the signal power surf
[01:19] <tjiggi_fo> surfnsound, are you sure there are no other 2.4Ghz appliances interferring with your signal?
[01:19] <koa> alex you mean the game right ?
[01:20] <surfnsound> signal power is fine, 80%
[01:20] <Alx495> right koa...
[01:20] <urlin2u> Alx495, you might get help, but know that it is in the repos, never used it but a ibstall may be all you heed.
[01:20] <urlin2u> install
[01:20] <magn3ts> I don't know what crashes more often these days, banshee or nautilus
[01:20] <koa> ok try Chromium then get it  from software center
[01:20] <Alx495> i tried to install...i think it does but then i can even find it..or it tells me to do some crazy stuff
[01:20] <koa> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=545066
[01:21] <koa> try this alex
[01:21] <urlin2u> magn3ts, neither crash here what is the release your running
[01:21] <magn3ts> 11.04
[01:25] <cvd_air> hey everyone - can someone help me out with some security release questions regarding Samba?
[01:26] <urlin2u> magn3ts, hard to say why, but broad staements without any details is a good way to get ignored.
[01:26] <urlin2u> magn3ts, just saying, this is not a chat channel but a support channrl.
[01:26] <Alx495> urlin2u...my knowledge of ubuntu is really basic...just moved from windows.
[01:26] <Alx495> the process description becomes too complicated for me.
[01:26] <Alx495> the it tells me to compile stuff
[01:26] <urlin2u> Alx495, If I knew the app I would help, but I have never played games on my computer.
[01:26] <Alx495> urlin2u. thank you for the good intention.
[01:26] <majorastro> ok
[01:26] <koa> ok :P
[01:26] <majorastro> ok
[01:26] <magn3ts> lol yes, I'm quite familiar with this channel
[01:26] <urlin2u> Alx495, here is al ink that might get yo started though. :D  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[01:27] <cvd_air> we are running several Lucid boxes in the field, but samba is only at v3.4.7 in the packages ... but it's up to 3.6 in the field!  3.4.7 has many security issues, so why isn't it updated in the LTS distro????
[01:27] <cvd_air> how can i manually update samba to 3.6 on these units?  or do i have to fully upgrade the entire distro?
[01:28] <Alx495> help wit MAME install...it tells me 'no roms found' check the rompath????/
[01:28] <|Slacker|> what's the rompath?
[01:29] <Alx495> that is the problem Slacker..I have no idea where the rompath is
[01:29] <zykotick9> Alx495, are you using xmame or sdlmame?
[01:29] <Logan_> !latest | cvd_air
[01:30] <magn3ts> Alx495, do you know what an emulator or rom actually is?
[01:30] <Alx495> I used to use mame under windows
[01:30] <laanan> Does anyone know how to get wifi to enable/connect on startup?
[01:30] <cvd_air> ubottu - i understand that, but there are several critical fixes in 3.5.x
[01:30] <laanan> I tried using nmcli, but I get...command not found...
[01:30] <cvd_air> bah
[01:30] <cvd_air> lol
[01:31] <Alx495> but now...it is like...I thought i found it and got lost even further when moved to ubuntu
[01:31] <urlin2u> laanan, the card works right?
[01:31] <laanan> yeah, wifi works fine
[01:31] <Alx495> I love everything except the idea of not been able to do what I need
[01:31] <laanan> it is just annoying to have to right click -- enable
[01:31] <urlin2u> laanan, use the network manager auto connect and all users.
[01:31] <cvd_air> @Logan_ - i understand that, but there are several critical fixes in 3.5.x
[01:31] <laanan> whenever I start up or come back from sleep
[01:31] <laanan> I tried that
[01:31] <laanan> although, I can't remember if I restarted...
[01:31] <urlin2u> laanan, also tab nics plaease.
[01:32] <cvd_air> if i need 3.6.x on these machines, how do i get it there?
[01:32] <laanan> tab nics?...
[01:32] <gemini6669> hey everyone, I have a question. I hope it isn't silly but I have not been able to find a resolution to the problem with having deadzones on my desktop. I can click my mouse for all of its worth and it will not do anything that it is supposed to do. I have seen others with similar issues but no fixes. Has anyone else had any luck actually fixing this yet?
[01:32] <Logan_> cvd_air: There isn't an official way to do it.  If you upgrade to Natty, the latest version in the repository is 3.5.8.
[01:32] <gemini6669> it is with 11.04 running unity as well as the new gnome
[01:32] <urlin2u> laanan, you see your nic show up in red when I respond because I type laa then hit tab to complete.,
[01:32] <alexandros> hello
[01:33] <cvd_air> if i compile it from source will it work?
[01:33] <magn3ts> gemini6669, that bug is still around ?!!
[01:33] <alexandros> Is there any way to copy/write files from my ubuntu partition???
[01:33] <laanan> gemini6669, that is a great feature
[01:33] <magn3ts> wow.
[01:33] <alexandros> right now im in windows
[01:33] <gemini6669> yeah, from a vanilla install it is definitely still around
[01:33] <michael_p> open ssh or lamp
[01:33] <magn3ts> that's just embarassing
[01:33] <gemini6669> and quite a deal breaker I might add
[01:33] <magn3ts> gemini6669, if you ditch unity it goes away.
[01:33] <alexandros> ??
[01:33] <alexandros> anyone tell me?
[01:33] <gemini6669> I wish that were the case
[01:33] <zykotick9> cvd_air, check if a PPA has the updated version you want - "/msg ubottu ppa" for details
[01:34] <magn3ts> I was plagued by that for weeks before reverting to cardapio+docky.
[01:34] <gemini6669> it was still very present in the new gnome as well
[01:34] <magn3ts> alexandros, sorta. why?
[01:34] <magn3ts> gemini6669, you got gnome3 working in 11.04?
[01:34] <magn3ts> o_0
[01:34] <Logan_> cvd_air: I highly doubt compiling from source would make it work out of the box.
[01:34] <gemini6669> yeah
[01:34] <alexandros> because i want to copy files
[01:35] <urlin2u> !tab
[01:35] <laanan> urlin2u, any other ideas if the auto-connect/all users doesn't work? apt-get says nm is up to date...
[01:35] <Alx495> magn3ts....any ideas on what to do about the ROMPATH?
[01:35] <gemini6669> it was working a week ago when I booted back into linux. I haven't been back because I was ticked about the mouse issue
[01:35] <urlin2u> laanan, not sure mine has always worked, wish I did. :D
[01:35] <alexandros> magnets can u help me?
[01:36] <Logan_> cvd_air: This may work for you, actually: https://launchpad.net/~automation/+archive/ppa/+build/2687261
[01:36] <laanan> urlin2u, any idea why nmcli gets 'command not found?'
[01:36] <gemini6669> I really want to get the mouse thing fixed though, so... has anyone run across a real fix or is it just supposed to sort itself out on its own? because it has not
[01:37] <joyuser> alexandros i think partition magic can do that
[01:37] <alexandros> what?
[01:37] <alexandros> do you know a program about it?
[01:37] <magn3ts> DCC from Alx495, screaming about rom path.
[01:37] <joyuser> alexandros partition magic is the program
[01:37] <magn3ts> Dude, read a tutorial, or learn the tiniest bit about what you're doing first.
[01:38] <alexandros> ok i go download it!
[01:38] <magn3ts> Alx495, ROMS are the games that the emulator runs. They're not legal to download and probably aren't meant to be discussed here, though there are open source roms I guess.
[01:38] <joyuser> alexandros PM can also write to linux partitions, but it is not convenient
[01:38] <Alx495> magn3ts...there are some legal roms.
[01:38] <joyuser> alexandros what partition do you have? etx2? ext3?
[01:39] <alexandros> ext4
[01:39] <laanan> yeah but shouldn't he be careful about what format his HDD is in?
[01:39] <Alx495> i used to have a couple..just basic little games
[01:39] <magn3ts> Alx495, Ok, so you knwo what they are...
[01:39] <Alx495> i do
[01:39] <magn3ts> Alx495, not sure what's the confusing part then.
[01:39] <laanan> like writing from linux to windows can sometimes kill your data..
[01:39] <Alx495> i just moved to ubunto
[01:39] <urlin2u> laanan, I get a response with that looks like this, I use the cli but I'm not a real expert in it. http://imagebin.org/173303
[01:39] <magn3ts> The rom path is the path where you have them stored.
[01:39] <laanan> like Fat 32 to whateer, right?
[01:39] <Alx495> right....
[01:39] <Alx495> the thing is i have no idea where this program wants me to save them
[01:40] <gemini6669> I take it that no one else is currently experiencing issues with deadzones on the screen with 11.04 in gnome 3 then?
[01:40] <joyuser> alexandros then you need very fresh PM, cuz old versions can only handle ext2, ext3
[01:40] <laanan> urlin2u, thanks...yeah, if I got that I'd be in businesss.
[01:40] <Alx495> and since i cant even move around correctly ..it is kind of difficult
[01:40] <alexandros> its version 8
[01:40] <urlin2u> laanan, run nm -help
[01:40] <joyuser> alexandros I tried pm8 on ext2 some years ago
[01:41] <joyuser> alexandros i'm not sure that pm8 can handle ext4...
[01:42] <alexandros> i have ext2explorer but with that thing i can copy only
[01:42] <xangua> gemini6669: gnome3 is not currently supportedn you are on your own
[01:42] <Logan_> !gnome3 | gemini6669
[01:42] <joyuser> alexandros do you need also to write to ext2 partition?
[01:43] <gemini6669> what would be supported
[01:43] <alexandros> yes
[01:43] <joyuser> alexandros *ext4
[01:43] <hunterx> alooo
[01:43] <alexandros> i get now error 117
[01:43] <joyuser> alexandros error 117? then dont touch the partition
[01:43] <gemini6669> I honestly don't care at this point, I have tried a few, without switching over to KDE or going to something stipped down, what would you recommend
[01:44] <gemini6669> I grabbed the newest gnome that was in the repository list
[01:44] <gemini6669> and it didn't fix the issue
[01:44] <gemini6669> unity didn't work
[01:44] <cheako> There are a lot of proxy related bugs, can I start a proxy task force?
[01:44] <joyuser> alexandros I would not recommend to correct these errors in PM, because it can ruin all info on that hdd
[01:45] <gemini6669> and I don't have as much time on my hands to fix showstopper problems as I did when I was in college
[01:45] <alexandros> ok
[01:45] <joyuser> alexandros you better try another piece of soft.
[01:45] <gemini6669> my mouse doesn't work, the forums have yielded zero answers
[01:45] <gemini6669> would you have any recommendations?
[01:45] <alexandros> i found that http://www.ext2fsd.com/
[01:46] <urlin2u> gemini6669, what is the graphic card, and are you using a serial mouse?
[01:46] <bombadil_rocks> gemini6669 what do you mean dead spots?
[01:47] <jeremy-77> can anyone help set up a hp 2410 all in one usb printer 11.04 ubuntu  ?
[01:47] <laanan> urlin2u, what I am trying to do is add something like nmcli nm wifi on as a startup script...but it seems that nmcli isn't apart of my linux flavor or something...? It is based on Ubuntu..but it is actually jolicloud...
[01:47] <joyuser> alexandros looks nice, but recently fixed writing bugs make me curious if there are any left
[01:47] <gemini6669> usb mouse, people still use a serial mouse? ati radeon 5670 using the default driver, the closed driver yielded more issues
[01:47] <urlin2u> !ask | jeremy-4201,
[01:48] <alexandros> it says that i have ext3
[01:48] <Corey> alexandros: ext3 is effectively ext2 with a journal.
[01:48] <alexandros> now how i mount my linux partition with that?
[01:48] <bombadil_rocks> gemini6669, i meant what do you mean by deadzones
[01:48] <gemini6669> deadspots: I click on a program and it pulls up, any further clicks within the screen do nothing. there is zero response. sometimes it will actually click something that is one the window behind it
[01:48] <urlin2u> jeremy-77, the ask ubottu was for you actually, give details
[01:48] <mrdeb> what about ext4 corey
[01:48] <joyuser> alexandros if you have ext4, then not so modern progs can tell it is ext3
[01:49] <gemini6669> if I try to x out of the program, nothing happens
[01:49] <alexandros> i just found it!
[01:49] <Corey> mrdeb: Effectively a list of incremental improvements (extents that work, for instance).
[01:49] <gemini6669> right click and nothing happens
[01:49] <gemini6669> close it out from the toolbar and nothing happens
[01:49] <jeremy-77> hp psc 2410 photosmart printer worked fine in windows 7 but cant print with ubuntu 11.04
[01:49] <bombadil_rocks> gemini6669, I've actually have had the same problem, i just haven't gotten around to trying to fix it
[01:49] <bombadil_rocks> gemini6669: what I noticed is when i switched from compiz to metacity it stoped
[01:50] <gemini6669> I can close it from the keyboard. that is usually how I get the focus back to the proper screen to move around and kill that window
[01:50] <alexandros> look http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/adasdnv.jpg/
[01:50] <urlin2u> gemini6669, surprisingly yes people still use serial a serial mouse that is why I asked you b=need a tweak to get it work, YOu are not giving details by the way.
[01:51] <gemini6669> @bombadil_rocks thanks, I will give that a shot. I kinda hate the idea of losing the pretty stuff but usability is more importany
[01:51] <gemini6669> important*
[01:51] <urlin2u> gemini6669, if you tab the nics the person your addressing will actually be notified
[01:52] <urlin2u> tab compete is the easiest gemini6669
[01:52] <alexandros> and then how do i unmount it???
[01:52] <joyuser> alexandros in the prog's faq on the site it says: Just "right click" on the dialog list, and select "Change Drive Letter". Then you'll see the mount point dialog, you can add, change or remove any driver letters.
[01:52] <gemini6669> urlin2u the first part was a joke, sorry I have kinda been out of the loop for awhile, sorry if I haven't privded you enough info
[01:53] <urlin2u> gemini6669, no problem but the channel is a bit busy for chat, :D
[01:53] <gemini6669> I haven't had to do this in more years than I care for. things actually just worked or the problem was quickly fixed and found in the forums
[01:53] <gemini6669> I haven't been on irc in a few years for a problem that I couldn't solve
[01:53] <joyuser> alexandros I think it is done from the standard windows's drive manager
[01:54] <OvermindDL1> So, installed the open source ati drivers after fully purging all of the old ones from the systems, still locking up while running 3d apps but instead of it taking 30-240 minutes, now it is taking 20-30 minutes, twice now, need to figure out what is causing it...
[01:54] <joyuser> alexandros if I remember it right, rightclick my computer, then manage
[01:54] <jeremy-77> hp psc 2410 photosmart printer worked fine in windows 7 but cant print with ubuntu 11.04 how do I set up this printer ?
[01:55] <joyuser> alexandros is this an irc for linux? ;-)
[01:55] <alexandros> im using qwebirc
[01:56] <temporarytao> OvermindDL1, probably a dumb question but: it's not an overheating issue, is it?
[01:56] <temporarytao> those numbers seem suggestive
[01:57] <alexandros> i can't write
[01:57] <alexandros> it says that it was write protection
[01:57] <t-minus> Hi guys...
[01:57] <new2net> My calendar (in Unity & Natty 11.04 desktop) is messed up. There are two problems; the first is that when the day changes I must click the calendar twice for it to reflect the correct date. So if I leave my machine on for 3 days and my calendar will be 2 or 3 days off.  The second issue is actually fixed, I guess it just takes a minute to update the time settings (~60 seconds max perhaps).
[01:58] <joyuser> alexandros maybe it wants you to run it with administrative privileges?
[01:58] <new2net> the bash command date is always accurate however.
[01:58] <t-minus> test
[01:58] <zykotick9> t-minus, fail ;)
[01:58] <adam_> Is there a panel applet for transmission?
[01:59] <joyuser> zykotick9 :)
[01:59] <temporarytao> @adam_, check the system options. it should be there.
[02:00] <adam_> you just mean system settings?
[02:00] <jdm> whats a good gui ssh client for ubuntu?
[02:00] <jdm> besides putty
[02:00] <temporarytao> adam_, no, i meant the settings for the transmission program. sorry
[02:00] <adam_> ah ok cool thanks!
[02:00] <jeremy-77> im in add new printer and it shows LPT#1  and Serial port #1 but I dont see an option for usb and it dose not show my hp psc 2410 printer
[02:00] <xut_jc> built in to nautilus already.
[02:01] <xut_jc> File > Connect to server
[02:01] <zykotick9> jdm, xut_jc is replying to your question i believe.  My question is why would ssh need a gui?
[02:01] <temporarytao> jeremy-4201, i think you need to install an HP-specific program for those types of printers to work
[02:02] <temporarytao> hplisp, i think? i've forgotten but i used to have one. try fishing around in synaptic
[02:02] <jdm> to make managing connections easier
[02:03] <somsip> jeremy-77: hplip, but check the website first to see if your printr is supported
[02:03] <temporarytao> jeremy-4201, uh word of warning. make sure to research the printer model first, though. different models, different drivers
[02:03] <Kronsby> can not find system settings for transmission
[02:04] <alexandros> ok i can write now!
[02:04] <temporarytao> alexandros, so what was the fix?
[02:05] <somsip> jdm: I suggest using ssh in a terminal and setting up a decent .ssh/config file. I found this much more flexible than managing connections in puty, once they were setup
[02:05] <Kronsby> How do i find transmissions settings? it only will give me settings for individual torrents
[02:05] <alexandros> i selected the linux partition
[02:05] <alexandros> i pressed f3
[02:05] <alexandros> and uncheck read only
[02:05] <temporarytao> run the transmission client, go to 'edit', then 'preferences'
[02:05] <temporarytao> you should see some tabs. choose the one named 'desktop'
[02:05] <bunnyfun> where does pulse audio put error messages?
[02:06] <temporarytao> tick the option about showing transmission in notification area
[02:06] <temporarytao> alexandros, thanks
[02:07] <Kronsby> temporarytao, Sorry I am really dumb. I have not gotten used to unity yet :(
[02:07] <alexandros> nothing...
[02:07] <jdm> somsip, thank you i will try that
[02:07] <jdm> i just wanted something to help automate things a bit
[02:07] <temporarytao> Kronsby, ah, you're using unity. :) well, you can try what i typed but i don't know if it'll work. i'm not in unity
[02:08] <mh512> hi, i am having this problem whereby i can only access certain websites... ping works but the webpage just doesnt load
[02:08] <Kronsby> It did I just did not see edit and preferences because they are on the panel which I am not used to
[02:08] <Kronsby> temporarytao, I am on 11.10 so its either unity or nothin
[02:08] <mikubuntu> after doing an update, on restart a bunch of applets failed, including tray, clock, login/logout, user switcher, etc ... what can i do?
[02:09] <urlin2u> mh512, doyou have ipv6 off
[02:09] <xangua> !oneiric | Kronsby
[02:09] <urlin2u> Kronsby, 11.10 channel is #ubuntu+1 if you need to know
[02:09] <temporarytao> actually, you can switch back to old-skool gnome. you can choose it when you login. type/choose your login name and look below. :)
[02:10] <somsip> jdm: a config will allow you to setup aliases so I can connect to my site with 'ssh somsip', and you can run it in your preferred terminal, and you can share connections so it only has to negotiate a connection the first time if you often have multiple connections to the same machine. there is a man ssh_config and lots of tutorial pages that I've used in the past.
[02:10] <alexandros> Can i make the windows partition bigger? i mean to take space from linux part and insert to windows part
[02:10] <alexandros> Is that possible
[02:10] <alexandros> ?
[02:11] <bombadil_rocks> alexandros, yes w/ ntfsresize, but there are risks
[02:11] <temporarytao> alexandros, possible and dangerous
[02:11] <alexandros> dangerous? why/
[02:11] <alexandros> ?
[02:11] <mh512> urlin2u: yeah i have ipv6 off
[02:11] <CarlFK> you can resize the partition, but windows may break trying to use it
[02:11] <idlemind> alexandros because ms made ntfs and they didn't tell us how to haxor it
[02:12] <alexandros> ohh... lol
[02:12] <bombadil_rocks> alexandros, also before you do it you need to boot into windows and run a disk cheeck
[02:12] <magn3ts> it's also slow as molasses
[02:12] <alexandros> why?
[02:12] <idlemind> magn3ts every ntfs resize i've ran has gone through pretty fast
[02:13] <bombadil_rocks> alexandros, b/c linux can't do a proper disk cheeck of ntfs and if they are any errors it just won't resize it
[02:13] <idlemind> alexandros it is required for proper operation of the filesystem post re-install
[02:13] <idlemind> * re-size
[02:13] <mikubuntu> after doing an update, on restart a bunch of applets failed, including tray, clock, login/logout, user switcher, etc ... what can i do?
[02:13] <alexandros> ok
[02:13] <alexandros> another question now
[02:13] <alexandros> soon im getting an APU
[02:13] <alexandros> proccesor
[02:14] <alexandros> and mobo
[02:14] <alexandros> can i use same linux installation that i have now for new pc?
[02:14] <hot2trot> I need to run a .jar file... how can I install java on ubuntu natty?
[02:14] <urlin2u> mh512, so what release are you running, what is the cpu, and ram, and what browser, if firefox which release.
[02:15] <joyuser> alexandros remastersys can help you to move installed system to new hardware
[02:15] <xangua> !java | hot2trot
[02:16] <hot2trot> xangua: thank you
[02:17] <synackfin> how do I copy the partition layout from one disk to another if they're gpt? e.g. for non-gpt, I can just do `sfdisk -d (src_device) | sfdisk (dst_device)`
[02:17] <GermainAdrian> hi all, anyone familiar with Evernote?
[02:17] <GermainAdrian> I am looking for possible replacements that can handle html import, like evernote, without storing it on the cloud
[02:18] <Corey> GermainAdrian: Evernote does considerably more than that.
[02:19] <GermainAdrian> Corey: i know, but thats the core feature that i need.
[02:20] <alexandros> can i make a new ntfs partition from the linux partition when my hdd is unmounted?
[02:20] <alexandros> using gparted
[02:20] <jeremy-77> would there be a difference between 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu to make a hp printer not work. I use to print with ubuntu 10.04 32 bit
[02:20] <bombadil_rocks> no,
[02:20] <bombadil_rocks> alexandros, no
[02:20] <mh512> linurl2: ubuntu 10.10. i just re-enabled ipv6. doesnt seem to solve the problem
[02:21] <mh512> doesnt seem to be a browser problem anyway
[02:21] <mh512> seems to be a system issue
[02:21] <bombadil_rocks> alexandros, or looking at it maybe but I wouldn't
[02:21] <urlin2u> alexandros, we are assuming you mean the one you are using no, any others unmount the partition then yes
[02:23] <bombadil_rocks> alexandros, linux is incapable of doing an actual disk cheeck, so I wouldn't trust it to do a format either
[02:23] <sgo11> hi, it's hard to describe my problem. ubuntu 11.04 natty. with gvim, the chars typed in are not really always up-to-date. eg: 1, if you add a new line, newline not shown. 2, if you type 'hello' really fast, it will show 'h llo'. to solve it, simply use mouse click the window border. it will refresh/update the UI somehow. any ideas?
[02:23] <urlin2u> mh512, which browser FF 6 is available in a ppa, I doubt it is a system problem other then speed do to a low cpu and ram, trying to load to much which can be blocked with noscript and addblock
[02:23] <mh512> urlin2u: it is a system problem. curl doesnt work.
[02:24] <sgo11> it doesn't have this problem one week ago. I have no idea why it suddenly happens to me.
[02:24] <aot2002>  I'm trying to activate curl with php but it just won't acknowledge the extension is installed.
[02:25] <mh512> urlin2u: i have been using the same distro for some time now... it seems to be a recent development.
[02:26] <urlin2u> mh512, here is the maverick curl man if that helps.  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man1/curl.1.html
[02:26] <amin`> how could I start dzen? just dzen2 in terminal i get nothing.
[02:28] <mh512> urlin2u: w3m, chrome doesnt work too. e.g. curl -I www.facebook.com gives a 302
[02:29] <mh512> urlin2u: i suspect this problem happened after i played with some network configuration, but i am not sure
[02:29] <urlin2u> mh512, hehe probably.
[02:30] <urlin2u> mh512, no sure really an area I have not had problems in so I'm not real familiar with all of the aspects.
[02:30] <SIFTU> mh512: so it works in other OS's?
[02:31] <Squarism> damn, it would be sweet to launch "Terminal" against another system... so you can start and switch terminals just as you do locally... is that possible?
[02:32] <SIFTU> Squarism: multiple ways to achieve that if I understand what you are saying
[02:32] <CarlFK> Squarism: ssh and screen sound like what you might want
[02:32] <mh512> SIFTU: yeah no problems on windows 7 and 11.10 beta-1
[02:33] <SIFTU> mh512: and it's just curl, not the browsers?
[02:33] <SIFTU> Squarism: I agree with CarlFK
[02:33] <Squarism> SIFTU, CarlFK: Screen is what im using now.. but i think the terminal switching is tedious..
[02:33] <SIFTU> Squarism: the Ctrl+a+n thing?
[02:33] <Squarism> SIFTU, CarlFK: yeah...
[02:33] <phelippe> Hello, anyone can give me a suport to put my sound work on wolfstein enemy territory ?
[02:34] <SIFTU> Squarism: you can bind it to other keys.. also have you tried remmina or ssh-menu
[02:34] <mh512> SIFTU: browsers too.
[02:34] <Guest81539> I have 1 tb hard drive and when i went into gpart i get option ms dos/gpt etc for partation table what should i choose for storage???????
[02:34] <Guest81539>  I have 1 tb hard drive and when i went into gpart i get option ms dos/gpt etc for partation table what should i choose for storage??????? Can other OS use such as Windows XP , Windows 7?
[02:34] <SIFTU> mh512: do you have a proxy running locally?
[02:35] <phelippe> Hello, anyone can give me a suport to put my sound work on wolfstein enemy territory ????
[02:35] <uuplatina> can somebody explain to me what  -o rtdev  does in  mount?
[02:36] <mh512> SIFTU: how do i check this?
[02:37] <Squarism> SIFTU, ssh-menu looks interresting... remmina is a remote DESKTOP client of sorts right? Not terminal specific?
[02:37] <mh512> SIFTU: this problem occured on certain networks. not all
[02:38] <mh512> SIFTU: i mean certain wifi networks around my campus
[02:39] <SIFTU> Squarism: remmina can do ssh too
[02:40] <phelippe> HEY ---- Anyone know fix sound on Wolfstein Enemy Territory????????
[02:41] <Guest81539> what partation table should I CREATe for new sata hard drive? that is usable in windows xp and ubuntu.
[02:41] <coz_> phelippe,  I do not,, I rarely play games  other than simple ones like world of goo or machinerium
[02:41] <phelippe> coz_:  ok
[02:41] <SIFTU> Squarism: I have my own method http://dl.dropbox.com/u/906920/screenshots/screenshot-20110920194130.jpeg
[02:44] <bombadil_rocks> Guest81539, fat32 or ntfs, fat32 is nonjourneled, but ntfs can't really be error cheecked from within linux
[02:45] <mikubuntu> after doing an update, on restart a bunch of applets failed, including tray, clock, login/logout, user switcher, etc ... what can i do?
[02:46] <Guest81539> bombadil_rocks, not that partation i'm talking about partation table .
[02:46] <Guest81539> bombadil_rocks, not that partation i'm talking about partation table . gpt, ms dos, apple , i have none of those option yet.
[02:46] <SIFTU> mh512: it seems strange that other OS's work on those networks.. a 302 is a redirect i think, which is why i was thinking proxy
[02:46] <rlmccormick> anyone here running ubuntu in the new vmware fusion 4? any issues?
[02:46] <bombadil_rocks> sorry then I have no clue
[02:47] <Guest81539> what partation table should I CREATe for new sata hard drive? that is usable in windows xp and ubuntu.?
[02:47] <Squarism> SIFTU, looks appealing! Im all for remote controlled home! =D But what is it? Im interrested in opening gnome terminal app on a remote server so to speak.. i dont understand what you are showing?
[02:48] <SIFTU> Squarism: lol we can take it to a PM.. it's a bunch of reverse ssh tunnels
[02:49] <mh512> SIFTU: thanks for your input. will think abt this
[02:52] <Gestapo> hello
[02:52] <Guest81539> can can windows xp read GPT?
[02:53] <bambanx> a good sftp client guys?
[02:53] <netyire> Gestapo: yikes! ;-)
[02:55] <SIFTU> bambanx: filezilla?
[02:56] <wildbat> Guest81539: /j ##windows
[02:56] <Guest81539> but its also part linux
[02:56] <roach> wildbat: please dont spam other channels
[02:57] <mlncn> Ubuntu's frozen a couple times on me.  Any way to tell the cause?
[02:57] <t-minus> test
[02:57] <wildbat> Guest81539, roach : how if windows xp read GPT is related to ubuntu ?
[02:58] <t-minus> test
[02:58] <Guest81539> well gpt works on windows right?
[03:00] <MonkeyDu1t> Guest81539: what is gpt?
[03:00] <Axlin> Guest81539: Not on XP, unless it's x64.
[03:00] <sgo11> nobody replies me..Do anyone know why my gvim UI do not up-to-date? UI refresh problem?
[03:01] <Guest81539> Axlin so what should i get for 32 bits?
[03:01] <Guest81539> Axlin x86
[03:02] <Axlin> You'll have to reformat it, and change it to MBR.
[03:02] <Guest81539> Axlin I CAN"t thats the problem
[03:03] <Guest81539> Axlin its a fresh hard drive no paration table install
[03:03] <Guest81539> and winxp not able to read only linux
[03:03] <Guest81539> =,=
[03:03] <MonkeyDu1t> the it's a winxp issue
[03:04] <MonkeyDu1t> then*
[03:04] <russ5811> hello all. having a problem with gparted. anyone mind helping?
[03:04] <Guest81539> u know what
[03:04] <Guest81539> you guys are no help at all
[03:05] <Guest81539> i just do this my style
[03:05] <Guest81539> experimental~
[03:05] <Guest81539> rambo style
[03:05] <MonkeyDu1t> that's how we all learned, it's called trial & error
[03:06] <Axlin> Guest23415: Here's some info on doing the conversion. Doesn't look like fun, though :( http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/mbr2gpt.html
[03:06] <bluebird> how to configure linux to run fast. I'm using gnome.
[03:06] <netyire> bluebird: use xubuntu if you're running on older hardware
[03:07] <lostson> bluebird: or lxde
[03:07] <MonkeyDu1t> bluebird: http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Speed_Up_Linux
[03:08] <MonkeyDu1t> bluebird: http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/50-amazing-ubuntu-time-saving-tips-482714
[03:08] <bluebird> netyire: but my laptop is ThinkPad T410i yet. intel i3 core & nv graphic device.
[03:08] <synackfin> why does ubuntu's ping try every 5 seconds (the standard is every 1 second) -- and how can I switch to 1 second from 5 sec?
[03:09] <MonkeyDu1t> synackfin: try ping -t
[03:09] <russ5811> anyone willing to help with a formatting issue i'm having using gparted
[03:09] <urlin2u> russ5811, go ahead many can.
[03:10] <russ5811> trying to format an old hd attached via usb external enclosure.  /dev/sdc1 says can't find mount point. how can I just erase this drive and format to ext4?
[03:10] <synackfin> MonkeyDu1t: hmm, after rebooting the problem seems to have gone away; it's pinging in 1 second intervals by default now
[03:11] <bluebird> MonkeyDu1t: thanks, i'll take a try.
[03:11] <netyire> bluebird: you could turn off unnecessary startup apps (system-> preferences -> startup applications), ubuntu runs lights as it is :-D
[03:12] <urlin2u> russ5811, so when ou plug it in it just doesn't automount?
[03:12] <urlin2u> you
[03:12] <r3m> Anybody knows why firefox on ubuntu is so different from the one on windows? no orange button menu, bookmark menu is really ugly
[03:12] <urlin2u> r3m, theme
[03:12] <russ5811> it auto mounts but only for 100mb. it's a 120gb drive. i can format all but the 100mb partition. also, i can't delete the 100 mb partition
[03:13] <r3m> urlin2u: personas is not even installed on ubuntu
[03:13] <urlin2u> russ5811, is there a swap on it
[03:13] <russ5811> forgive ignorance...swap?
[03:14] <netyire> r3m: ubuntu devs use chromium, firefox devs absorbed by chrome browser war, nobody ports the features over?
[03:14] <mlncn> any key combination to force quit or get to command line or something?  or is the power button the only recourse for a freeze?
[03:14] <urlin2u> r3m, I know you don't even mention which versions on either OS, and really how would we know what your seeing.
[03:15] <urlin2u> r3m, ubuntu's is a customized version as well.
[03:16] <russ5811> thanks anyway
[03:17] <urlin2u> russ5811, swap is a partition that ubuntu would use like a page file in windows, a ram overflow area.  give a screen shot of gparted looking at the HD.
[03:18] <Axlin> mlncn: Ctrl+Alt+[F1-F6] will bring up a CLI session. Then you can either use "top" to find the program's PID, then hit the "k" key to enter its PID to kill it. Or, if you know the name of the program, use "ps -e|grep <process name>" to get the PID, and use "kill -9 <PID>" to force kill it. Then Ctrl-Alt-F7 to get back to GUI.
[03:18] <no-name-> Hi. I am using a mac keyboard with ubuntu and suddenly the numpad is controlling the mouse and not responding to clear (which works as numlock) ... :o
[03:18] <TechCel> I'm running ubuntu 11.04 with wubi and it's been great so far. Today I had a problem where ubuntu wouldn't boot up, and after running chkdsk on my win7, I found the recovered directory and put the contents back into /ubuntu, and now everything is working. Has anyone heard of this situation, and if yes, how do I prevent this from happening, if I can ?
[03:18] <mlncn> Axlin: thanks!  just resorted to the power button but unfortunately i think i'll have a chance
[03:19] <mlncn> to try it again
[03:20] <urlin2u> TechCel, not many here use wubi the Ubuntu forums has a couple of people who know this stuff.
[03:20] <TechCel> maybe I'll just transform it into a partition and be done with it
[03:21] <russ5811> urlin2u, where should i send screenshot?
[03:21] <urlin2u> TechCel, really wubi was designed as a try out to moving to a full dual boot really per the designer themselves.
[03:21] <amin`> is anyone here work with xmonad or has xmonad as the desktop WM
[03:22] <MonkeyDu1t> russ5811: try here http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[03:22] <urlin2u> russ5811, http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add  post the url then
[03:23] <johwil> Are  there any one with some knowledge on qjackctl with jackd as sound server  (for sound). I experience a weird error.
[03:23] <urlin2u> TechCel, you can put that wubi in a partition there is a thread on that at the ubuntu forums
[03:23] <russ5811> urlin2u, http://imagebin.org/173328
[03:24] <russ5811> thanks monkeydult
[03:24] <urlin2u> TechCel, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1519354
[03:25] <kevin> hello everyone
[03:25] <t-minus> hi
[03:25] <kevin> i have some questions about usb tunnel
[03:25] <urlin2u> russ5811, notice the key it means it is mounted, close gparted go to the disk utility unount it then delete it and build from gparted again. sometimes gparted will not unmount stuff so I suggest the utility
[03:26] <kevin> "no usb device"
[03:26] <russ5811> ok. give it a try
[03:26] <In-Vent-ive> Greetings
[03:26] <CAP7669> holaaaa
[03:27] <CAP7669> helloooo
[03:27] <kevin> help
[03:27] <CAP7669> alguien habla español?
[03:27] <kevin> sos
[03:27] <CAP7669> (¯`·.kevin .·´¯)
[03:27] <russ5811> urlin2u, thanks. the problem was gparted wasn't unmounting, but as you said...disk utility did. thanks!
[03:28] <m4v> CAP7669: el canal de habla hispana es #ubuntu-es
[03:28] <kevin> kevin@ubuntu:~/paparazzi$ make AIRCRAFT=Twinjet tunnel.upload
[03:28] <kevin> Twinjet
[03:28] <kevin> BUILD Twinjet, TARGET tunnel
[03:28] <kevin> make[1]: 没有什么可以做的为 `radio_ac_h'。
[03:28] <kevin> make[1]: 没有什么可以做的为 `flight_plan_ac_h'。
[03:28] <kevin> cd sw/airborne; make PAPARAZZI_SRC=/home/kevin/paparazzi PAPARAZZI_HOME=/home/kevin/paparazzi TARGET=tunnel all
[03:28] <FloodBot1> kevin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:28] <kevin> Using CC   = arm-elf-gcc
[03:28] <TechCel> thx very much
[03:28] <CAP7669> (¯`·.m4v.·´¯) hablas españoooool
[03:28] <rww> !es | CAP7669
[03:28] <CAP7669> ya se q hay canales en español
[03:28] <CAP7669> pero vine a este
[03:28] <CAP7669> :
[03:28] <johwil> Are  there anyone with some knowledge on qjackctl with jackd as sound server  (for sound). I experience a weird error.
[03:28] <CAP7669> (¯`·.rww.·´¯) ?
[03:29] <urlin2u> kevin, since you h=give virtually no detail here you go  https://encrypted.google.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&sit
[03:29] <urlin2u> e=webhp&source=hp&q=usb+tunnel+ubuntu&btnG=Search
[03:29] <m4v> CAP7669: este es solo en inglés. Por favor ve a #ubuntu-es  o #ubuntu-es-offtopic para charlar
[03:29] <CAP7669> ok
[03:30] <kevin> thanks
[03:30] <CAP7669> (¯`·.m4v.·´¯) xq no puedo estar aca?
[03:31] <In-Vent-ive> Hello, I have some problems with my monitor or video card. Following happens: I see a lot of lines.  I'm using Xubuntu Desktop 10.04  (It's like some TV, but with the distorted signal)... I'm currently working on Centrino Duo with ATI Mobility X2300. The screen is generic.
[03:32] <In-Vent-ive> I Also add this commands sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[03:34] <CAP7669> no tienen falta de ortografia los ingleses
[03:34] <CAP7669> digo los de ee.uu
[03:34] <In-Vent-ive> 'cause propietary drivers aren't working too
[03:34] <zykotick9> CAP7669, #ubuntu-es
[03:34] <CAP7669> en los chats q hablan en españoool si tiene terrible falta de ortografia
[03:35] <In-Vent-ive> my apologies my english is poor, somebody can help me?
[03:35] <CAP7669> (¯`·.zykotick9.·´¯) gracias. ya sabia
[03:35] <savydreams> 	If I have ubuntu installed from the wubi, is there any way to nuke windows without losing ubuntu?
[03:35] <CAP7669> I love You
[03:36] <CAP7669> friends les cuento
[03:36] <CAP7669> que soy de uruguay
[03:36] <TechCel> Ubuntu's really grown on me
[03:36] <CAP7669> je
[03:36] <TechCel> the driver situation's still pretty shitty, but once you get it setup it's pretty neat
[03:36] <centHOGG> go to the clinic TechCel
[03:36] <CAP7669> me llamo vaneee
[03:36] <CAP7669> vanessa
[03:36] <CAP7669> :P
[03:37] <bastidrazor> CAP7669: you should /join #ubuntu-es
[03:37] <CAP7669> les gusta my name?
[03:37] <bastidrazor> CAP7669: english here, please.
[03:37] <CAP7669> ok :(
[03:37] <CAP7669> bye
[03:39] <rww> !paste | kevin
[03:39] <rww> Notably, FloodBot1's PM window is not http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[03:39] <bastidrazor> rww: you're slow on the trigger tonight.
[03:39] <rww> bastidrazor: No, I'm not :)
[03:39] <joahd> problems with ubuntu
[03:40] <joahd> ubuntu crashes as soon as it boots up
[03:40] <kevin> thank u ,ubottu
[03:40] <L0rDKadaj> mine crashed.
[03:40] <L0rDKadaj> gnome 3 shell failed to load
[03:40] <L0rDKadaj> cant connect to wireless network
[03:40] <L0rDKadaj> blablabla
[03:41] <rww> L0rDKadaj: For GNOME 3 on oneiric, see #ubuntu+1. GNOME 3 on natty and below is not a supported Ubuntu configuration.
[03:41] <joahd> my display turns 70%black and 30%pixrls
[03:41] <L0rDKadaj> good job for the wise guy who sabotages the system.
[03:41] <bastidrazor> L0rDKadaj: it sounds like you're the wise guy :|
[03:42] <joahd> my display turns 70%black and 30%pixrls
[03:42] <VampsDaBeast> hello all.. is it possible to setup Natty as a unix/windows sharing box?
[03:42] <L0rDKadaj> me? I'm a developer who devs android and grails... it's none of my concern
[03:42] <centHOGG> share what
[03:42] <h00k> !samba | VampsDaBeast
[03:43] <L0rDKadaj> thank goodness i can backup my data so that i can install another stable distro
[03:43] <bastidrazor> L0rDKadaj: don't install unsupported packages and you should be fine.
[03:43] <kevin> coming
[03:43] <h00k> L0rDKadaj: do you have any ubuntu related questions to ask in here? If not, feel free to continue in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:43] <kevin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/694216/
[03:43] <idlemind> sigh i wish i wasn't so bad at git
[03:44] <L0rDKadaj> one advice to u ubuntu devs, if this problem persists for long, linux will never be a stable distro anytime soon.
[03:44] <centHOGG> lol
[03:44] <h00k> !ot | L0rDKadaj
[03:44] <urlin2u> L0rDKadaj, so you installed gnome3 in what release?
[03:44] <rypervenche> If I rsync my /home to external HDD1, then rsync HDD1 to HDD2, will rsyncing my /home to HDD2 overwrite all of the files or will it only overwrite the changed files?
[03:44] <L0rDKadaj> ubuntu 11.10 beta 1
[03:45] <L0rDKadaj> the latest distro update destroyed me and my system
[03:45] <rww> L0rDKadaj: so you're complaining that a beta is not stable. after being told to discuss the beta in another channel. gotcha.
[03:45] <h00k> L0rDKadaj: Oneiric support is in #ubuntu+1
[03:45] <L0rDKadaj> right...
[03:45] <idlemind> i heard that pr0's run beta since it5 st@bl3
[03:46] <idlemind> then again i run win 7 gui on my win me install
[03:46] <L0rDKadaj> nvm...
[03:46] <kevin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/694216/
[03:46] <kevin> help me
[03:47] <qin> !l337 | idlemind
[03:47] <rypervenche> !cn | kevin
[03:47] <qin> !1337 | idlemind
[03:47] <idlemind> kevin what are you trying to build in particular ... what
[03:47] <idlemind> ubottu > idlemind =(
[03:48] <OvermindDL1> temporarytao:  I doubt it, I can stress it into high heat with other programs fine, just primarily games that kill it without the heat getting anywhere near to the stress.  Sorry for the delayed response
[03:48] <kevin> join #ubuntu -cn
[03:49] <kevin> 在哪里输入啊
[03:49] <kevin> paparazzi  usb tunnel
[03:50] <idlemind> you're doing this on ubuntu running on an arm device?
[03:51] <mbrigdan> Hey, I need some help. I formatted an ext3 partition as an ext4 partition, with a slightly different size. Unfortunately, some of the data on the ext3 partition wasn't backed up. Anyone know if there's anyway I can get this stuff back?
[03:52] <rumpe1> mbrigdan, /msg alis list '*ubuntu-cn*'
[03:52] <qin> mbrigdan: testdisk to recover old partition table.
[03:52] <rumpe1> mbrigdan, ups, sorry
[03:53] <SIFTU> mbrigdan: what type of data?
[07:53] <Free-man> paul68 the content is the client's data; that's read-only  (rejoin flood, repost lines during them)
[07:53] <paul68> Free-man: can we take it pvt
[07:53] <Heikki_> praiviiit
[07:53] <ex0> netstat -a -n
[07:54] <htk> zsss
[08:08] <amin`> hello . in openbox we have autostart.sh to put the application we want to start at start up but I don't know if there is the way to do it in xmonad. does xmonad has the same option?
[08:09] <chatter> hey
[08:10] <chalcedony>  my husband has a bunch of drives (on ubuntu 10.10), i need to move files from my computer (ubuntu 11.04) to his. i can see in nautilus where they need to go, but how can i specify the path for ssh? or is there an easier way to get them there?
[08:12] <TL1> I'm trying to repair my ubuntu installation for 3 days now i'm stuck at login screen gconf sanity exited on status 256
[08:12] <TL1> is there a way to fix it or i just have to reinstall
[08:13] <TL1> can i reinstall easily without the need to download the updates and packages all over again
[08:13] <TL1> Im on lucid
[08:13] <lsm> I've never used XChat before, and am not familiar with the interface. Maybe I'll have to get used to it step by step.
[08:16] <kulhas> hello, I have a sucefully vpn connection, and I need to configure a proxy to use with vpn connection how do I do that in linux ?
[08:18] <GreekFreak> Why does some software say that it supports an older version of Ubuntu? I thought backward compatability was a given
[08:18] <prasenjeetp> hi guys ... i am kind of stuck with setting up my ubuntu desktop such that it can use the company's squid proxy without any special configuration (flash, php based remote URL based functions are not working now) ... but nothing that I have tried so far has worked
[08:19] <prasenjeetp> i tried the http_proxy environment variable method but that didnt help ... anyone that can help me here
[08:20] <urlin2u> TL1, a quick look at google with " gconf sanity exited on status 256 lucid" has some hits have you tried looking there.
[08:20] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: did you use the proxy tools ? where you can actually point the machine at a proxy ?
[08:20] <TL1> urlin2u: yes but the workarounds are not working
[08:20] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: for browsers you may have to set the individually in the browser config
[08:20] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: yes, i tried gconf-editor too
[08:21] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: ok - so in does your browser work
[08:21] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: it works fine for browsers now but when i try anything else (including flash , php code, telnet google.com 80 etc), it doesnt work
[08:21] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: I don't know what you mean by "flash" as flash is run in a browser, as is PHP, so I don't know how your browser is working but you say flash/php isn't
[08:22] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: telnet won't go through your squid proxy, as squid is setup as a http proxy, not a network router/masqurader
[08:22] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: i was trying telnet google.com 80 ... shouldnt that work
[08:22] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: do you have a windows or "company" machine on the same network
[08:22] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: no, that's not http, that's telnet
[08:23] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: telnet will have no knoweldge of your http proxy
[08:23] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: both are ubuntu systems, the desktop and the squid server ... different computers
[08:24] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: ok, lets step back and let me get a bit of info
[08:24] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: is this squid machine your box, that you setup ?
[08:24] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: yes, thats right
[08:24] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: is this on a corperate/business network, or your own
[08:25] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: its on my own office (i have full control over it)
[08:25] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: ok - so you've setup squid as a http proxy, is that correct ?
[08:26] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: yes, thats correct and its working fine for all browsers
[08:26] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: so what is not working ?
[08:26] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: as it should do.
[08:26] <nmvictor> "This unity shit hungs all the time, how do i get gnome3 shell, I'd rather ugly and workable that beuty and stress", Me thinks.
[08:27] <newb> how can a access a .jar in ubuntu?
[08:27] <ikonia> nmvictor: drop the language please.
[08:27] <ikonia> newb: you use "java" to access a jar, it depends what the jar does and what you mean by access it
[08:27] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: ok, here is where things are not working for me ... what i want to do is "not" to have to configure anything on "any application" and it should "automatically" use the proxy for all HTTP requests
[08:27] <newb> I installed java
[08:27] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: what is not working for you
[08:28] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: example : if i use uploadify (or any other flash based code) or if i just want to use PHP's fopen for a URL
[08:28] <urlin2u> nmvictor, gnome shell in natty is problematic what an=bout the classic desktop
[08:28] <nmvictor> ikonia: Sorry, did i offend you, i was just thinking
[08:28] <newb> I was try to play a .jar game and it wouldn't allow to change the permissions, but it would allow on my 500gb hhd
[08:29] <ikonia> nmvictor: the language isn't aloud in the channel, that's all
[08:29] <nmvictor> urlin2u: actually am in oneiric
[08:29] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: those applications won't be aware of a http proxy by default,
[08:29] <nmvictor> ikonia: you must have meant allowed not aloud, but i still get it.
[08:29] <ikonia> nmvictor: try #ubuntu+1 for 11.10 support please.
[08:29] <urlin2u> nmvictor, your on the wrong channel the #ubuntu+1
[08:30] <ikonia> nmvictor: no, I meant allowed to be clear.
[08:30] <newb> so I moved it to my desktop I was able to change the permissions for but when I start it says it can't load the background jpg
[08:30] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: so, whats the way out ?
[08:30] <newb> for it*
[08:30] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: it depends how far you want to go and what you really want to do.
[08:30] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: you can look at network address based forwarding, setting up other services such as acient socks services,
[08:30] <ljsoftnet> whats the command to open volume applet?
[08:31] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: i want to go as far as i need to go ... since i am trying to set this up across my office and unless this works "Transperantly" , i cant get others to use it
[08:31] <nmvictor> urlin2u: ok, i'll hop over their, but just a query about gnome3 in general, is it workable in Oneiric? You seem to know its not workable in Natty.
[08:31] <freeroute> ljsoftnet: check alsamixer
[08:31] <urlin2u> nmvictor, works on oneiric yes
[08:31] <ljsoftnet> freeroute how?
[08:31] <nmvictor> urlin2u: thanks
[08:32] <urlin2u> nmvictor, no problem.
[08:32] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: hmm, maybe finally we have to get a transparent squid proxy ... the werid thing is it works on "2 of our PCs" where ubuntu natty is installed
[08:32] <nmvictor> urlin2u: i wont bother you further, Im joining the right channel  now
[08:32] <Vali> how to connect to wireless network with channel 13 ?
[08:32] <newb> Error loading image file: Background.jpg
[08:32] <freeroute> ljsoftnet: type alsamixer in term
[08:34] <ljsoftnet> freeroute im looking for the applet
[08:35] <freeroute> ljsoftnet: applet as in that thing in the tray bar?
[08:37] <Fandekasp> hi
[08:37] <Fandekasp> Is it possible to make a command write in the X ?
[08:37] <Fandekasp> like if I map a key with xbindkeys, and press that key in the chromium search box, it would print "some text" ?
[08:37] <ljsoftnet> freeroute yes
[08:37] <diverdude> hello. is there any way to check if something has changed in the filesystem, being either files added, removed or modified in a specific folder and all subfolders between 2 timepoints?
[08:37] <brainwave92> Guys i need to clear my space on ubuntu
[08:38] <brainwave92> having not worked much on a linux system i dont know how to effectively free space
[08:40] <urlin2u> brainwave92, so your running out of spacei n general?
[08:40] <urlin2u> in
[08:40] <rwat_> is there a channel for oneiric testers?
[08:40] <freeroute> ljsoftnet: has the applet disappeared or something?
[08:40] <urlin2u> rwat_, #ubuntu+1
[08:40] <rwat_> urlin2u, tnx
[08:43] <chatter> ALL OP'S PLEASE LEAVE
[08:43] <somsip> seems legit...
[08:44] <newb> http://www.mts.net/~gbeggs1/JavAHole/Asshole2Applet.html thats the game. I download all the required files months ago so I don't have to play it in my browser It plays on windows but it won't play on ubuntu
[08:45] <chatter> !ARGH
[08:45] <kulhas> can I setup a proxy like this? ssh -C -D 1080 myproxy
[08:45] <jpds> chatter: Hi.
[08:45] <newb> it does even load completely in firefox on ubuntu
[08:46] <newb> the above link
[08:46] <amin`> and i wanna know if it is possible to use xm obar or dzen as taskbar to show available windows if possible. to change them by clicking at them in xmonad or dzen
[08:46] <chatter> CAN I USE FREENODE WITH TOR?
[08:46] <jpds> chatter: That's a question for #freenode.
[08:46] <urlin2u> chatter, don't yell and yes look on the web
[08:47] <chatter> soz mate
[08:48] <ljsoftnet> freeroute i have it in my applet as indicator applet, but i just want the volume applet only
[08:48] <newb> I got OpenJDK & Icedtea java plugin
[08:49] <freeroute> ljsoftnet: I don't know the specific command, but if you're running Gnome then it must be something Gtk related. See if you can add the applet by right-clicking the tray bar and selecting "Add to tray" or something similar.
[08:56] <Zaki-Sama> Hi!!
[08:59] <newb> hi
[08:59] <george> hi
[09:00] <george> is anybody out thear
[09:00] <urlin2u> newb, I can't get it to resolve either
[09:01] <urlin2u> george, you need help/
[09:01] <Starminn> What is Timidity?
[09:01] <newb> ok ty I use to play on windows xp & 7 locally cos I download all the files that it needs
[09:02] <urlin2u> Starminn, http://timidity.sourceforge.net/
[09:03] <kaellan> im trying to get a cam in ubuntu to send .jpeg files named date and time and another one that is named just cam1 or somthing (same picture just that it get overvriten)  to a ftp. someone know how to do or mind give me a hint ?
[09:03] <newb> i'd to copy to my desktop to change the permission from my back up hhd to change but it won'y load the background.jpg
[09:03] <Starminn> urlin2u: Ah, thank you. Genius. :)
[09:03] <Nemie> What is the easiest way in ubuntu server to remove applikations from autostart? ( meaning that when I restart my server that some of the applications wont start together with the server )
[09:03] <newb> change permissions for the .jar
[09:04] <Total_Oblivion> Hello! How can I install xchat, pidgin and skype at ubuntu? thanks
[09:05] <kholerabbi> Total_Oblivion, open the software centre and search for them
[09:05] <urlin2u> Total_Oblivion, in software sources, synaptic or the terminal.
[09:06] <scarleo> Not software sources, try software center :)
[09:08] <esheep> :
[09:15] <Nika> Hi,How to register for chat?!
[09:16] <llutz> !register | Nika
[09:18] <Nika> I dont kow whats the freenode!!
[09:18] <kaellan> im trying to get a cam in ubuntu to send .jpeg files named date and time and another one that is named just cam1 or somthing (same picture just that it get overvriten)  to a ftp. someone know how to do or mind give me a hint ?
[09:19] <Susan_> hi
[09:19] <sobczyk> hi, how to make tap interface to retrieve ip address provided by vpn server? I want to use vpn for a short time on a server, and the address is wrong
[09:21] <urlin2u> Nika, type /join freenode   and you will be on that channel for help
[09:21] <llutz> type /join#freenode
[09:21] <llutz> type /join #freenode
[09:22] <urlin2u> lo missed the #'
[09:23] <dnivra> hello. I am logged into a site and need to download a few files from there. I wish to do a recursive download of a folder using wget but can't do so since the login cookie is required to access it. is there anyway to ask wget to use the cookie of the browser?
[09:25] <Susan_> hi
[09:26] <Susan_> hi there
[09:26] <skandee> is there a way to use the  gnome terminal as calculator?
[09:26] <Susan_> anyone here
[09:26] <tqt1586> Susan_: hi susan
[09:26] <chalcedony> Susan_, anyone?
[09:26] <dnivra> skandee: type "bc" in the terminal
[09:27] <Susan_> hi
[09:27] <skandee> thanks
[09:27] <Sidewinder1> Susan_, About 1491.
[09:27] <Susan_> what's About 1491
[09:27] <Sidewinder1> 1492, now are here.
[09:27] <dnivra> Susan_: number of people in the channel :)
[09:28] <Susan_> ah... ic thanks
[09:28] <Susan_> i was surprised that windows 8 blocked linux
[09:28] <chalcedony> Susan_, were you looking for something?
[09:28] <harry_> hey , anyone here who can tell me how to keep window always on top in linux using script??
[09:28] <Sidewinder1> NP
[09:28] <Susan_> future
[09:28] <Shinobi> hi, i want to install ubuntu on my second drive, but i dont want the grub to be put on the first drive, so if i disconect the second drive, the grub wont appear
[09:28] <Shinobi> is it possible?
[09:29] <Susan_> ah... i can see the numbers of ppl here... 1494
[09:29] <dnivra> Susan_: just do a normal install and that's what will happen. ensure you install grub to the second drive and you'lll be done.
[09:29] <dnivra> oops I mean Shinobi ^^
[09:29] <urlin2u> shinkamui, use the something else option and it the next gui is a where to pint grub
[09:29] <khaliG> is there an app to dim the lights when working late?
[09:30] <urlin2u> shinkamui, it=in
[09:30] <bilygates> @khalig i use flux, but it changes color temperature, not brightness
[09:31] <urlin2u> Shinobi,  use the something else option and in the next gui is a where to point grub
[09:31] <khaliG> bilygates, ive tried that just now but it wont work on both screens
[09:31] <bilygates> strange, i have dual monitors too and it works :s
[09:32] <bilygates> but i'm using nvidia's twinview, maybe you're using two X screens?
[09:33] <khaliG> bilygates, just stock ubuntu
[09:33] <khaliG> bilygates, no special drivers but my card is an ATI one (it isn't using the proprietary drivers afaik)
[09:33] <harry_> hello
[09:33] <hallowed> hi
[09:34] <harry_> hey , anyone here who can tell me how to keep window always on top in linux using script??
[09:34] <movan2011> skandee, you can enter a function into bash like: function calc() { echo $[$*]; }
[09:34] <urlin2u> harry_, you mean top of the grub menu/
[09:35] <harry_> yes
[09:35] <movan2011> skandee:  You can then call calc like a regular command but don't use spaces in your formula, e.g. calc 2+3
[09:35] <Davst> I'm having an issue with a usb-drive in ubuntu.. every now and then the drivw will just plain dissapear device and all
[09:35] <Davst> anyone know why this happens?
[09:35] <Shinobi> urlin2u do you have a link for the tutoriel?
[09:35] <Susan_> the workable ubuntu is ubuntu and ubuntu studio generated from installed ubuntu
[09:36] <Susan_> because.... other distribution of ubuntu doesn't recognize IPV6
[09:36] <Davst> seems it soft powers off or something
[09:36] <movan2011> skandee:  It won't work with figures with figures using decimal points though.
[09:36] <Davst> is there any way to get it to not do this or wake it up?
[09:36] <bilygates> @khalig hmm, there seems to be some problems with dual monitors and f.lux
[09:36] <bilygates> @khalig you could try redshift http://www.mao-yu.com/projects/redshiftgui/
[09:37] <Susan_> does anyone has information about windows 8 hardware and ubuntu 11.04?
[09:37] <khaliG> bilygates, yep but im a bit weary adding all these random repos to my list .. wish it was already in ubuntu
[09:38] <Susan_> windows 8 blocked all linux booting
[09:38] <Davst> noone?
[09:38] <Davst> *sigh*
[09:39] <llutz> Susan_: ask in #hardware, it's offtopic here and not implemented yet at all
[09:39] <hallowed> thumb drive? or external hdd?
[09:39] <khaliG> Davst, dig around, look at dmesg for clues
[09:39] <Davst> hallman: external hdd
[09:39] <bilygates> @susan are you talking about that secure-boot installed in the mobo?
[09:39] <Susan_> so..... if linux doesn't release activating the booting on windows 8 hardware
[09:39] <bilygates> at worst, it will probably have an option to disable it in bios
[09:39] <Susan_> the ubuntu and other linux distribution will be ended up
[09:40] <Susan_> this happens personal terminal basis....
[09:40] <llutz> !ot | Susan_ those UEFI stuff is not to be discussed here
[09:40] <urlin2u> Shinobi, not really at the gui that asks where you want to install, you have several choices, along side, whole hd, and something else, choose that one click the grub dropdown make sure its pointed at the HD you want then choose the partition, change click ext 4 then format then put / for mount.
[09:40] <Susan_> EFI is always troublesome
[09:41] <Susan_> ah.. okay
[09:41] <re0eal> hello all,i have a problem:How to confirm the character set from a string?
[09:41] <Susan_> i've been researching EFI and booting
[09:42] <Susan_> cya
[09:42] <urlin2u> Shinobi, you can unplug the drive as you suggest though if that works better
[09:42] <bilygates> or disable it in bios
[09:43] <ex0> $c
[09:44] <Shinobi> okay i'll do that
[09:44] <Shinobi> thank you a lot urlin2u
[09:44] <Shinobi> guys on ubuntu france gave me some uncertain solutions, whom i just couldnt understand
[09:45] <Shinobi> anyway i'm going to do that!! thanks again
[09:45] <Davst> khaliG: found some messages i think are related in dmesg but I'm not sure what they mean at all
[09:46] <tipman> ich suche jemanden der deutsch spricht, am besten aus berlin
[09:46] <urlin2u> Shinobi, here are some pictures and a bit of a tutorial it looks like, notice the third picture where it says in it device for bootloader installation. http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/05/22/how-to-dual-boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-11-04/
[09:46] <llutz> !de | tipman
[09:46] <Kartagis> I have a problem with pnopaste. it doesn't highlight syntax. help me?
[09:46] <Total_Oblivion> hello again, i typed sudo apt-get install pidgin on terminal, but it asks for password and i can't type anything there...:<
[09:46] <khaliG> Davst, paste them on the web and share the link?
[09:47] <Zac12> hi there
[09:47] <llutz> Total_Oblivion: you can't type or you just don't see what you type?
[09:47] <Zac12> I am currently trying to make a usb drive that has an autorun script that calls a bash script upon mount
[09:47] <Kartagis> Total_Oblivion: you're not supposed to see what you type
[09:48] <tipman> danke
[09:48] <Zac12> but for some reason the autorun in gnome gives me an error "cannot find autorun software"
[09:48] <Zac12> although it works in xfce
[09:48] <Zac12> has anyone experienced this before?
[09:48] <khaliG> bilygates, redshift works on both screens. thanks for the help!
[09:49] <Davst> khaliG: yeah ofc.. http://pastie.org/2567536
[09:49] <Davst> khaliG: The device works perfectly under windows, just in ubuntu it is being a pain in the ass. I tried reformatting it to ext4 to see if ntfs support in ubuntu was the weak link
[09:50] <bilygates> @khalig np, good to know it works :)
[09:51] <bilygates> @total_oblivion that's a security measure, just type your password and press enter
[09:51] <Total_Oblivion> thanks a lot! I'm pretty useless on these stuff...
[09:52] <bilygates> you'll get better ;)
[09:53] <jiltdil> Hi anyone know channel for embeded linux
[09:53] <Anubis> hi !
[09:53] <dnivra> jiltdil: ask in #freenode
[09:53] <Total_Oblivion> bilygates: i certainly hope so :P
[09:54] <llutz> !alis > jiltdil
[09:54] <Anubis> i have this problem: i upgraded the kernel and i uninstalled my nvidia drivers and rebooted. now i cant see anything on my display except some black vertical stripes on a white background. how can i fix this problem ? ( 11.04)
[09:55] <jiltdil> llutz:thanks
[09:55] <bilygates> @anubis first of all, does ctrl+alt+f1 bring you to a terminal?
[09:55] <newb> hi I can't delete a folder on my desktop
[09:55] <jwtiyar> where is the Source.list file?
[09:55] <llutz> jwtiyar: /etc/apt
[09:55] <jwtiyar> newb: set permission
[09:55] <jiltdil> newb:check permissions
[09:56] <newb> it says I don't have permissions to delete & has a lock on it
[09:56] <Anubis> bilygates: it is starting directly in console
[09:56] <Anubis> i forgot mentioning that those stripes are in console
[09:57] <newb> it won't allow me to change them
[09:57] <jwtiyar> newb: right click and permissions
[09:57] <jiltdil> newb: r u a sudo user?
[09:57] <newb> The file "Asshole2" cannot be moved to the trash.
[09:57] <jiltdil> newb : if u r a sudo user then just change it via chmod -R 777 /path/to/folder
[09:57] <newb> Unable to trash file: Permission denied
[09:58] <jiltdil> newb: firstly change the ownership of that folder by chown
[09:58] <newb> how I'm new to ubuntu?
[09:58] <M1N1Me> chattr -i filename.ext
[09:59] <M1N1Me> all this in a konsole
[09:59] <harry_> urlin2u::did find anything??
[10:00] <newb> chmod -R 777 /path/to/folder how do I type the file path it on my desktop?
[10:00] <Anubis> i booted from a 10.10 live cd and i will try to remove some X config file to see what happen
[10:00] <bilygates> @anubis you can't use the terminal at all? i was thinking of reinstalling the nvidia drivers
[10:00] <llutz> jiltdil: using chown/chmod to delete something is simply pointless. if you have sudo-access, "sudo rm -r path/dir " is much easier
[10:01] <alex617> hi everyone, i have a problem to start mprime on ubuntu livesystem v11.04. I already followed the instruction on this page [1], but I did not get any "feedback" from mprime and I can't see mprime running when I use top.
[10:01] <newb> so how would I add the path/dir?
[10:01] <Anubis> @bilygates: no, i cant use terminal. thats why i cant reinstall nvidia drivers
[10:01] <alex617>  [1]:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1337958
[10:01] <jiltdil> llutz: i just tell him the way how any file can be given ownership  and access after this he will understood from this point of view i told that
[10:02] <llutz> jiltdil: telling someone to chmod 777 is not very helpfull
[10:02] <llutz> !permission
[10:05] <bilygates> @anubis after booting from livecd, maybe you could copy-paste the newly generated xorg.conf over the old one
[10:05] <bilygates> @anubis i don't know if just removing it will work
[10:05] <Fudge> looking for turbo freq info for amd quads for laptop, can you control it with cpufreqd or other software?
[10:06] <Anubis> @bilygates: i hope that will work.
[10:11] <newb> I still can't delete it
[10:11] <llutz> newb: sudo rm -r path/dir
[10:11] <newb> I tried changing the permission but it doesn't remember it
[10:11] <newb> by right click properties
[10:12] <llutz> newb: only owner + root can change properties
[10:12] <newb> how to I write the path?
[10:12] <newb> if its on my desktop
[10:12] <llutz> newb:ls -l /home/username/Desktop/Asshole2
[10:12] <newb> my user/desktop/folder name
[10:13] <bilygates> something like "sudo chown youruser -R /home/youruser/Desktop/Asshole2"
[10:13] <Goku283> lol
[10:14] <ujjain> How do I install Silverlight? It says not compatible with FF6.
[10:15] <dnivra> !moonlight | ujjain
[10:16] <ujjain> thanks :) it works
[10:16] <ujjain> well, the install, not the application
[10:16] <stevethepirate> Hi, I removed a package (from a custom PPA), and installed it from it's package source. Every time I open a new bash terminal I get an irritating message [update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for grails.]. /etc/alternatives doens't have any grails entry listed though.
[10:16] <newb> -l /home/steve/Desktop/Asshole2 -l: command not found
[10:16] <jatt> ban
[10:17] <ujjain> it did not find it with apt-cache search though. How do I install mplayer firefox plugin?
[10:17] <llutz> newb: ls -l /home/username/Desktop/Asshole2
[10:19] <mistertim> Hi all - This is a slightly odd question - I have an external USB trackpad - I was wondering if there's a way to connect it and STOP it from controlling the mouse pointer in Gnome / X ? I'm using it as input to a program I'm writing.
[10:20] <mistertim> appreciate this is a little vague - but in general, can pointing devices be decoupled from the gnome desktop somehow?
[10:22] <daedeloth> greetings
[10:22] <Goku283> heya
[10:22] <daedeloth> I have installed 11.10 yesterday and I'm a bit lost
[10:22] <Goku283> lol
[10:23] <Goku283> im still finding my way too
[10:23] <daedeloth> I have a 3 monitor setup and the fact that my start menu is now sometimes 3000px away from my mouse cursor is rather annoying
[10:23] <daedeloth> I was wondering if there was any way to change that
[10:23] <jiltdil> daedeloth are u installed it on virtual box
[10:23] <daedeloth> no
[10:24]  * jiltdil thinks why  daedeloth  didn't installed it on physical machine
[10:25] <daedeloth> it is installed on a physical machine
[10:25] <scarleo> daedeloth: join #ubuntu+1 for 11.10 discussions
[10:26] <daedeloth> alright, thanks
[10:26] <newb> steve@ubuntu:~$ ls -l /home/steve/Desktop/A$shole2 total 108 -rwxrwx--x 1 steve steve 95707 2011-06-18 14:27 A$shole2.jar dr-xr-x--- 2 steve steve  4096 2011-08-28 01:35 Help dr-xr-x--- 2 steve steve  4096 2011-08-28 01:35 Images dr-xr-x--- 2 steve steve  4096 2011-08-28 01:35 Sounds
[10:26] <newb> but its still on my desktop
[10:26] <Total_Oblivion> erm, where did you find 11.10? at ubuntu.com there's only 11.04 and 10.04 :S
[10:27] <daedeloth> 11.04 then
[10:27] <daedeloth> sorry :)
[10:27] <daedeloth> numbers and all
[10:27] <jiltdil> newb: please tell me from which user you are logged in
[10:27] <bilygates> @newb chown steve -R /home/steve/Desktop/A$shole
[10:27] <newb> steve
[10:27] <bilygates> then you can remove it
[10:27] <llutz> newb: sudo rm -rf  "/home/steve/Desktop/A$shole2"
[10:27] <jiltdil> llutz: just remove it by using sudo
[10:28] <jiltdil> llutz: oh soory
[10:28] <bilygates> damn, there should be a "take ownership of this file" in nautilus which brings up a gksudo :/
[10:28] <newb> Yea it worked thank you
[10:29] <llutz> bilygates: no there shouldn't. it would make things even worse
[10:29] <bilygates> hmm you're right
[10:29] <bilygates> maybe just for files on your own desktop/home folder :P
[10:29] <llutz> bilygates: "chown/chmod" as the 1st thing to do on problem causes most likely even more problems
[10:30] <kaellan> how do i get permision to open motion config file ?
[10:32] <Anubis> how can i disable/uninstall the Nouveau driver?
[10:32] <llutz> Anubis: blacklist it if you're sure you don't need it
[10:33] <Anubis> how can i do that ?
[10:33] <llutz> Anubis: add "blacklist nouveau" to /etc/modprobe.d/nouveau.conf   as root
[10:33] <mistertim> aha! have discovered gpointing-device-settings, disregard my earlier question :-)
[10:34] <llutz> Anubis: you'll need to reboot to make it work
[10:35] <llutz> Anubis: what driver do you want to use? nvidia? it should have done the blacklist on installation
[10:35] <bilygates> @mistertim tx, good to know!
[10:36] <Anubis> in /etc/modprobe.d/ i dont have any nouveau.conf file. i'm just trying to install the latest nvidia drivers (280)
[10:36] <llutz> Anubis: just create a new file then.
[10:37] <janice> anyone awake?
[10:37] <Anubis> ok
[10:38] <ex0> sup
[10:38] <bilygates> zzz
[10:40] <stickyboy> Hmm, I think I want to switch from proprietary nvidia to nouveau.
[10:40] <stickyboy> Open source makes me wet...
[10:41] <jwrigley> stickyboy, are you a girl? or are you urinating?
[10:43] <stickyboy> Neither, I'm just freakin' stoked on open source drivers.
[10:44] <jwrigley> fair enough. :)
[10:45] <bilygates> nvidia open-sourcing their drivers = wet :p
[10:45] <X0Rc0re> why cant i find any good anti virus channels on freenode?
[10:46] <amin`> guys I am using 15.6" monitor and using xmonad is really hard. does xmonad is only for large screens like this http://dzen.geekmode.org/dwiki/lib/exe/fetch.php?cache=cache&media=dzen:xmdz-notf.png
[10:46] <amin`> or there is a magic behind all of this
[10:47] <jrib> amin`: what makes it hard?  Use workspaces and full screen mode maybe?
[10:47] <jwrigley> X0Rc0re, what's wrong with #clamav?
[10:49] <X0Rc0re> ohhhh
[10:49] <X0Rc0re> ill try
[10:49] <X0Rc0re> thanx :)
[10:49] <X0Rc0re> there is no clamav channel?
[10:49] <X0Rc0re> on freenode?
[10:51] <jwrigley> X0Rc0re, sure there is. I'm in it.
[10:52] <X0Rc0re> im not?
[10:53] <X0Rc0re> oh ok
[10:54] <Zac12> hi there
[10:55] <Zac12> is it possible to setup proxy from nginx to cherokee?
[10:58] <kholerabbi> !join
[10:59] <folivora> Hello, has anyone used remastersys to create a custom-live-cd? I did create one, everything else is working perfectly but /home/user eq /home/user/Desktop/. So it isn't creating Desktop, Pictures, Downloads, Document folders. Any ideas what could cause this problem?
[11:00] <AdamBlack> im trying to figure out a way to set up an incremental backup, to backup .tar files from server1 to server2 over a WAN.. would RSYNC work or is there something better
[11:02] <bazhang> folivora, remastersys from a PPA? contact the PPA maintainer or their help pages/ forums
[11:11] <amin`> what is the xK (mode key)? is it shift or ctrl or ...
[11:11] <bouncer> Hi
[11:14] <bilygates> @adamblack if you want incremental backups and the ability to keep previous backups, you should use rdiff-backup
[11:15] <jrib> bilygates: rdiff-backup and rsnapshot are two good programs that do incremental backups
[11:16]  * Silent_Samurai wtf
[11:17] <jrib> AdamBlack: rdiff-backup and rsnapshot are two good programs that do incremental backups
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> i use rsync
[11:19] <mrskite> hello, id like to get access to files on my hard drive via ubuntu live cd, most of the files I can copy but for some I get access denied
[11:19] <jrib> mrskite: run « gksudo nautilus » on the live cd
[11:19] <mrskite> the files were stored with a previous ubuntu 10.10 installation
[11:21] <poison> want to show a png image.....how do i show using the url?   imgurl.com?
[11:21] <ahhughes> hey, I've been readin up on SSD's and boot time.. but it seems really inconclusive.... some say its eon's faster.. others.. just a few seconds gained. Anyone running an ssd and can confirm/deny all of this?
[11:21] <jrib> poison: maybe imgur.com since imurl.com seems to spam me...
[11:23] <squig> silly question what should the default permissions on /tmp be ? i just broke it with alien
[11:23] <jrib> squig: http://paste.ubuntu.com/694392/ don't use alien...
[11:23] <jwrigley> squig: 1777
[11:24] <squig> I should have just used cpio but alien is so easy, I was just turning a rpm into a tar
[11:24] <jrib> squig: why on earth...
[11:24] <mrskite> jrib now i can open the files but i still cant copy them onto a flash drive
[11:24] <squig> jrib, binary packages from vendor
[11:25] <jrib> mrskite: what happens when you try?  (assuming you are still using that same nautilus window you opened)
[11:25] <jrib> squig: you should complain to vendor
[11:25] <squig> jrib, vendor says use redhat
[11:26] <jrib> squig: find new vendor :)
[11:26] <jwrigley> squig: why would alien change permission of /tmp?
[11:26] <squig> jwrigley, i dont know but it just did? jrib would if some one else sold software that does what this does
[11:26] <jrib> squig: what software?
[11:27] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[11:27] <squig> jrib, PhotoRealistic RenderMan
 It still says permission denied, now I cant copy any of the files in the folder, when I open the same folder in a new window, I can still copy some of them
[11:29] <jrib> mrskite: pastebin output of « mount »
[11:29] <paulus68> for backup I use this script http://www.faqs.org/docs/securing/chap29sec306.html
 sry, what do you mean by pastebin output of mount?
[11:31] <jrib> mrskite: type « mount » in a terminal, then copy the output, visit http://paste.ubuntu.com, paste the output, submit, give us the resulting url
[11:34] <mrskite>  <jrib> ok, http://paste.ubuntu.com/694398/
[11:35] <jrib> mrskite: close everything you have open... run « gksudo nautilus » two times and use that to copy files.  Does it work then?
[11:37] <jwrigley> mrskite: you might want to make that « gksudo nautilus & »
[11:37] <jwrigley> mrskite: otherwise you won't be able to type it in the second time.
[11:39] <root> privet
[11:40] <Guest30346> ghbdtn
[11:40] <Guest30346> пиздец в натуре
[11:40] <bazhang> !ru | Guest30346
[11:41] <SpiderFred> hi
[11:41] <Guest30346> чо
[11:41] <Guest30346> пиздец
[11:41] <bazhang> Guest30346, #ubuntu-ru
[11:42] <Guest30346> #ubuntu-ru
[11:42] <Guest30346> ????
[11:42] <soreau> ! ru | Guest30346
 That worked, thanks
[11:42] <Guest30346> ???????????????????????????????????????????????????
[11:43] <SpiderFred> anyone can tell me how is called that web authentication to network? when I connect to wifi for example but I can acces only one web where I have to log in so I can use internet?
 It seemes to have worked, thanks
[11:43] <Guest30346> !ru
 I think the problem was that i didnt open the flash drive in the same window
thanks again, have a nice day
[11:44] <Guest30346> я забанен  чо за пидор меня забанил?
[11:44] <EscapeGoat> i need java for firefox. what do i install?
[11:45] <Guest30346> да пашли вы на хуй чюрки  пидорские
[11:45] <paulus68> !ru |Guest30346
[11:46] <blamer> HEY GUyS!! !! I have the network manager applet disactivated ( hidden ) how can i restore it ... i'm on ubuntu LTS 10.04
[11:47] <vali> how to change regulatory domain in ubuntu 11.04 ?
[11:47] <EscapeGoat> can anyone please tell me what i need to get java in firefox?
[11:50] <jwrigley> EscapeGoat: sun-java6-plugin
[11:50] <jwrigley> EscapeGoat: or icedtea-plugin
[11:50] <EscapeGoat> awesome, thank you jwrigley
[11:51] <vali>  how to change regulatory domain in ubuntu 11.04 ?
[12:01] <P05TMAN> Good day....how can I know from a terminal which drivers I have installed? Is there a command for this.
[12:02] <th0r> P05TMAN: lsmod?
[12:02] <frostschutz> P05TMAN: lspci -k?
[12:02] <thiagoalmeidasa> modprobe -l
[12:04] <P05TMAN> thiagoalmeidasa- excellent! Thanks! frostschutz-ldpci lists pci devices
[12:08] <amit> hii
[12:08] <Guest27913> cnt install deb files
[12:09] <Guest27913> any idea?? the software manager refuses to install my deb files..
[12:09] <Guest27913> any idea about deb files friends??
[12:10] <thiagoalmeidasa> Guest27913: which the error log?
[12:10] <Guest27913> apt fails to download dependencies in oneiric
[12:10] <stevie-bash> Is there a way to tell kernel log to not log iptables msgs to dmesg?
[12:10] <Guest27913> unmet dependencies
[12:10] <tomodachi> Guest27913: use dpkg -i package.deb in the terminal and pastebin the error here
[12:10] <Guest27913> ok
[12:12] <Guest27913> http://pastebin.com/PxuhzWsx
[12:13] <Guest27913> see plsss
[12:14] <Guest27913> tomodachi: see it
[12:15] <tomodachi> Guest27913: you have unmet dependencies.  can you install the package it requests?
[12:15] <tomodachi> Guest27913:  wordnet-base apparently ,
[12:15] <Guest27913> isnt threre some progrm which resolves the unmet??
[12:16] <tomodachi> thats what you use apt for , but now you're installing from a deb file
[12:16] <tomodachi> Guest27913: you can always install the wordnet version i aptitde , then you dont have to fiddle around with theese deb files
[12:16] <Guest27913> still I used to do it earlier and it pulled off the files from net.. perhaps something ok synaptic has perhaps been removed
[12:17] <Guest27913> tomodachi thanks
[12:17] <Paddy_NI> Can I use an existing user account as a template for any new user accounts I want to create.. panel config / dock / compiz settings etc.. ?
[12:18] <Dayside> Hi guys and girls
[12:18] <paulus68> Hi Dolls ;)
[12:19] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: look at the settings in their home dir and then put them in /etc/skel
[12:19] <Dayside> I have lenovo ideapad s205. Ubuntu 11.04 does not work without downgrading to grub1. 11.10 beta works great. But. Wireless does not work
[12:19] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: when you create a user use the option -k /etc/skel
[12:19] <Dayside> chip is ralin rt3090
[12:19] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: or just do it direct with -k /home/$old_username
[12:19] <Dayside> ralink i ment
[12:19] <Dayside> any ideas?
[12:19] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: it will use the home directory or skel directory as a teamplte
[12:19] <Paddy_NI> ikonia, Oh.. excellent :-) is there any further docs on this specifically
[12:20] <prasenjeetp> anyone can tell me how i can do an inbox upgrade of mint linux and/or ubuntu
[12:20] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: to be honest, it's such an old part of coreutils I don't know, I've not read that sort of document for many many years
[12:20] <Paddy_NI> cheers mate
[12:20] <Paddy_NI> :)
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> prasenjeetp: what is an inbox upgrade?
[12:20] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: you can see a reasonable description in man useradd
[12:20] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: although it's not a massive explination
[12:21] <Paddy_NI> okay thanks ikonia I'll check that out :-)
[12:21] <prasenjeetp> MonkeyDust: i want to upgrade it without having to reinstall it
[12:21] <prasenjeetp> MonkeyDust: like the packages are upgraded
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> prasenjeetp: do you m
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> prasenjeetp: do you mean your mail client?
[12:22] <prasenjeetp> MonkeyDust: no, the OS itself
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> prasenjeetp: try dist-upgrade
[12:22] <aerdy> huy
[12:23] <prasenjeetp> MonkeyDust: thanks. let me look that up
[12:23] <aerdy> ok
[12:24] <aerdy> has joined
[12:24] <aerdy> my ubuntu
[12:24] <aerdy> 11.0h
[12:24] <faLUCE> hi. I would like to launch the popup that let me choose to shutdown/reboot/logout with a script. Wich is the name of the associated program ?
[12:25] <Phoenix87> re
[12:28] <Susan_> hi
[12:28] <thiagoalmeidasa> hi
[12:29] <Susan_> anyone has information about windows 8 and linux
[12:29] <Susan_> windows 8 blocked linux OS
[12:29] <Susan_> for booting
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> Susan_: correct, new MS policy
[12:29] <llutz> !ot | Susan_ those UEFI stuff is not to be discussed here
[12:29] <scottj> is there a text snippet expander for linux that works in almost all apps and doesn't require a keystroke to invoke?
[12:30] <Susan_> ms announced that windows 8 logo hardware
[12:30] <Susan_> release
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> Susan_: correct, but you're in the wrong channel
[12:30] <llutz> Susan_: what part of !offtopic don#t youunderstand?
[12:30] <Susan_> where i better go
[12:31] <Susan_> because..... Ubuntu will be ended
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> Susan_: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:31] <llutz> Susan_: stop that nonsense
[12:31] <Susan_> as well as other linux distribution
[12:31] <Susan_> ah... okay
[12:31] <Susan_> freenode?
[12:31] <Myrtti> yup
[12:31] <llutz> !alis | Susan_
[12:32] <Susan_> oki
[12:32] <Susan_> thx
[12:32] <thiagoalmeidasa> bye
[12:37] <Kartagis> I have a problem with pnopaste. it doesn't highlight syntax. help me?
[12:38] <yahol> is anybody here?
[12:40] <Badbit> yahol, No, hiding from you.
[12:40] <Badbit> Oops, sorry wrong channel
[12:44] <harry_> ye tell me
[12:44] <harry_> yahoo:
[12:45] <harry_> sry yahol:
[12:45] <harry_> yahol: what happen??
[12:47] <renier_> how to adjust the printer speed?
[12:47] <renier_> just like in windows :D i can change it from normal to fast draft
[12:47] <zmanfx> gotta love it when you have to run `dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda`
[12:47] <xhhj> Hello! How do I make it so it dsplays text on startup instead of black screen?
[12:48] <th0r> zmanfx: that is a dangerous thing to do. I hope no one here is going to try it
[12:49] <zmanfx> yup
[12:49] <zmanfx> fakeraid sucks
[12:49] <xhhj> Can anyone help me make ubuntu show dmesg on boot up instead of  a black screen?
[12:49] <zmanfx> my disks are so cluttered with crap, trying to restore anything with testdisk is impossible
[12:49] <xhhj> I even tried editing grub.cfg to remove quiet and splash but it still does not show dmesg on boot up.
[12:49] <th0r> xhhj: used to just add 'verbose' to the boot options
[12:50] <xhhj> ok thanks i'll try it
[12:50] <Stanley00> xhhj: you can do that vie editing /etc/default/grub ,
[12:50] <xhhj> what about /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[12:51] <llutz> edit /etc/default/grub and run sudo update-grub then xhhj
[12:51] <xhhj> oh ok thanks
[12:51] <Stanley00> xhhj: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" <= you need change this option to ""
[12:51] <cybercaffe> hi everybody
[12:52] <llutz> xhhj: grub.cfg shouldn't be edited manually, it will be overwritten very soon
[12:52] <Zac12> anyone here proxy'ed nginx to cherokee before?
[12:52] <cybercaffe> Koktebel Ukraine greeting you
[12:54] <OerHeks> hi cybercaffe
[12:55] <ubuntu__> Hello
[12:55] <ubuntu__> plis send to me message
[12:55] <harry_> hello guys
[12:55] <ubuntu__> xD hello xD
[12:56] <yahol> help/?
[12:56] <cybercaffe> havn't use to chat for a long time and my internet caffe now is on ubuntu so i think this is for a long time love
[12:57] <cybercaffe> ubuntu i cant send msg to you
[12:58] <cybercaffe> does anybody use nanostation 2 in his network
[12:58] <cybercaffe> ?
[13:00] <ex0> ps aux |grep tor
[13:02] <ichbinder> hello. A question about the command "sh" in Ubuntu 11.04: when I have multiple files, e.g. jobs.sh, jobs01, jobs02, jobs03 and I want to use one at a time with sh, on another machine the command stops right when the filenames become ambiguous, i.e. it stops at "sh jobs". On my Ubuntu machine, the "sh" command "intelligently" selects the file ending with .sh automatically. Why?! And can I change that somehow?
[13:04] <cybercaffe> does anybody have exp with  links in several km with nanostation 2?
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> cybercaffe: what is nanostation?
[13:06] <vigneshm> Hi people.. I have an issue installing ubuntu from a pen drive.. can anyone helpout
[13:07] <xhhj> vigneshm tell us your problem so we can help
[13:07] <vigneshm> When I boot my system from the usb, I just shows the copyright info and freezes...
[13:07] <tomodachi> vigneshm: try adding the parameter single  to the kernel command line , and also remove the parameter splash
[13:07] <ichbinder> ah, the other distro links "sh" to "bash" while ubuntu links to "dash" by default. How can I change that? How can I let sh link to bash? (besides dirty sudo relinking in /bin :) )
[13:08] <tomodachi> ichbinder: I dont think that is a good idea
[13:08] <ichbinder> tomodachi: enlighten me, please. :)
[13:08] <vigneshm> @tomadachi: im sorry.. can u be more detailed.. im a newbee to linux
[13:08] <tomodachi> ichbinder: scripts use that stuff. and bash and sh ar interpreter of scripts, if they differ, your scripts might break
[13:09] <stianhj> how safe is it to backport say 2.6.38 into lucid lynx?
[13:09] <ichbinder> vigneshm: the kernel command line is the line that is eexecuted at the very beginning when booting
[13:09] <tomodachi> ichbinder scripts like init scripts, starting services etc
[13:09] <Pici> ichbinder: just re-link it manually.
[13:09] <vigneshm> @ichbinder: hmm..k
[13:09] <Pici> tomodachi: bash shouldn't be linked to dash, but dash can be safely linked to bash..
[13:09] <Pici> If that makes any sense.
[13:09] <ichbinder> vigneshm: normally, grub2 should be used, so you should be able to edit that line pressing "e"
[13:10] <buttons> how do I tell which version of ubuntu is running?
[13:10] <buttons> via command line
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> buttons: lsb_release -a
[13:10] <dataspy> cat /etc/issue
[13:10] <ichbinder> Pici, tomodachi: hm... funny note: the other distro is debian, yet sh still links to bash instead of dash... -.-
[13:11] <llutz> ichbinder: then your debian is rather old
[13:11] <buttons> thanks
[13:11] <ichbinder> Pici, tomodachi: do you maybe know why ubuntu links to dash, not bash? or llutz
[13:11] <vigneshm> @ichbinder: so how shud i make the edit? im currently running win8. had the ubuntu iso virually mounted and ran the usbcreate to load up my pen drive...
[13:11] <ichbinder> llutz: i'll check...
[13:12] <llutz> ichbinder: dash is the "new" systemshell, its smaller than bash, POSIX conform
[13:12] <t-minus> hi guys
[13:12] <vigneshm> @ichbinder: do i make the param modification inside some file in the usb or.. ?
[13:12] <ichbinder> vigneshm: hm, never done an installation from within a windows running, only at booting... sorry. (and you are running win8? not win7?)
[13:12] <BlackHand> Anyone know the shortcut key for Workplace Switcher? And Im not talking about CTRL + ALT + <-- / -->.
[13:12] <llutz> ichbinder: used in debian and ubuntu since a while as default (/bin/sh)
[13:13] <tomodachi> vigneshm: if you are booting from the usb if its not "e" it might be f6 or something for "advanced options"
[13:13] <t-minus> can't get my text color right
[13:13] <llutz> ichbinder: dpkg-reconfigure dash             to change
[13:14] <santoscrew> @jwrigley: tnx
[13:14] <vigneshm> @tomodachi: k.. thanks. wil try it out
[13:14] <ichbinder> llutz: it's a lenny, debian 5.0.8 according to lsb_release -a
[13:14] <ichbinder> llutz: would you recommend relinking?
[13:15] <llutz> ichbinder: shouldn't harm
[13:15] <ichbinder> llutz: thanks. One last question: why reconfigure dash? Shouldn't it be reconfigure sh or something? Or is sh installed by pkg dash?
[13:15] <llutz> ichbinder: bash can do all things dash can do, but not vice-versa
[13:16] <ichbinder> llutz: kay. Thanks llutz, tomodachi, Pici! Awesome #irc support. :D
[13:16] <llutz> ichbinder: dash is the package creating the link /bin/sh -> /bin/dash. so reconfigure dash
[13:16] <ichbinder> llutz: ah, kay. Thanks!
[13:18] <ichbinder> llutz: hm, when running "$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash" all I can choose is yes or no for the question if dash "(/bin/sh)" shall be used as default... nothing else.
[13:18] <llutz> ichbinder: "no" should relink /bin/sh to /bin/bash
[13:18] <ichbinder> llutz: so maybe dpkg-reconfigure dash and dpkg-reconfigure bsh?
[13:19] <ichbinder> llutz: o'rly!
[13:19] <ichbinder> llutz: damn. Thanks!
[13:19] <drduplo> good afternoon
[13:19] <llutz> ichbinder: if not, "sudo rm /bin/sh && sudo ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh" :)
[13:19] <ichbinder> llutz: that's so hardcore... :D
[13:20] <adi11> hi all. ubuntu 11.04 on hp dv6700 with nvidia 630m after freash install hang on boot (after grub select OS) and show a bash screen with "initramfs"
[13:20] <adi11> anyone have any idea how to boot on ubuntu?
[13:21] <drduplo> ctrl-alt-delete
[13:21] <adi11> is this a nvidia driver related or kernel.i am on 2.6.38.11
[13:21] <adi11> any help would be appreciated
[13:22] <rigved> llutz: doesn't sh -> dash by default?
[13:22] <llutz> rigved: yes
[13:22] <infinite_entropy> New Ubuntu Server install… getting the following occurring: "sh: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory"
[13:23] <jrib> infinite_entropy: change your current working directory to one that exists
[13:23] <infinite_entropy> roger. ok
[13:24] <enoch> hi all
[13:24] <enoch> i have an encrypted disk on ubuntu 10.04 and i'v lost the disk pass.
[13:25] <enoch> is there a simple way to get access to the disk? or recover the pass?
[13:25] <jrib> enoch: do you understand the purpose of encryption?
[13:26] <infinite_entropy> *rimshot!*
[13:26] <enoch> jrib: yep.... and is there a tool to decrypt it?
[13:26] <jrib> enoch: I don't think you do
[13:26] <rigved> enoch: have you lost the password only or the passphrase as well?
[13:26] <infinite_entropy> Not within your lifetime, enoch
[13:26] <enoch> ok
[13:26] <jrib> enoch: what did you lose exactly and how was the disk encrypted?
[13:26] <xannen> Question: Postgresql: How to change user password with password prompt, securely?
[13:27] <Pici> xannen: Does passwd not do what you want?
[13:27] <Pici> xannen: er, sorry, missed the postgresql part of that.
[13:27] <enoch> jrib: lvm encryption and the disk is not mine... a guy asked me to decrypt it
[13:27] <xannen> Pici, not a problem. :D
[13:27] <ubuntu___> guys, i need your help.
[13:27] <bilygates> @xannen try sudo -u postgres psql postgres
[13:27] <bilygates> then \password myuser
[13:28] <infinite_entropy> Heh, enoch… does this "guy" happen to belong to large fraternal organization? :D
[13:28] <jwrigley> enoch: you should've said no
[13:28] <enoch> so is not possible?
[13:28] <pythonsnake> Is Ubuntu a financed project ?
[13:28] <pythonsnake> hmm, by Canonical right ?
[13:29] <jwrigley> enoch: only if you guess the password..
[13:29] <xannen> ty bilygates.  Is there an SQL-compliant command equivalent?
[13:29] <infinite_entropy> enoch: Or if you get access to a quantum computer. I hear the prices are only in the 10's of millions these days
[13:30] <ubuntu___> i'm trying to install the latest nvidia drivers, but it keep telling me that nouveau driver is running. the main problem is that i cant see anything on my terminal, except black horizontal stripes on a white background. i moved xorg.conf and rebooted but the problem is still there.
[13:30] <jwrigley> infinite_entropy: enoch: they don't in fact exist yet.
[13:31] <ubuntu___> i removed nouveau, except the library, but still doesnt work.
[13:31] <bilygates> @xannen "ALTER ROLE myuser WITH PASSWORD 'hu8jmn3';" BUT it's sent in clear-text, not secure
[13:31] <ubuntu___> any ideas ?
[13:31] <rigved> !ot | pythonsnake
[13:31] <jwrigley> infinite_entropy: enoch: but maybe with some alien technology... may as well try
[13:31] <infinite_entropy> jwrigley: Don't tell Lockheed Martin then… they'll be mad... http://www.dwavesys.com/en/pressreleases.html#lm_2011
[13:32] <rigved> pythonsnake: and in answer to your question, it is funded by canonical.
[13:32] <xannen> bilygates, I understood that command and am aware of the clear text problem.  I'm googling about it, and haven't found an answer yet.
[13:33] <ubuntu___> i runned this commands: modprobe -l and modprobe -r nouveau
[13:34] <ubuntu___> and in the end the nouveau driver vanished, but the terminal screen is still there
[13:35] <bilygates> @xannen i think you might be able to do this: "ALTER ROLE myuser WITH ENCRYPTED PASSWORD 'md5-of-password'"
[13:35] <jwrigley> infinite_entropy: wow, indeed. I seem to have fallen behind. I tip my hat to you, sir!
[13:36] <jwrigley> infinite_entropy: or miss/mrs, be that as it may.
[13:36] <infinite_entropy> It happens… I keep up with that kind of crap for my job as a developer
[13:37] <jwrigley> nice!
[13:38] <infinite_entropy> I was confuzzled this morning by a weird error… I was in a directory that existed but was getting the getcwd error, but I had since deleted and replaced the directory via SFTP and broke the link
[13:39] <lovre>  I have a wireless connection but it reports only 1MBps, instead of 54Mbps.. Any ideas to fix this?
[13:39] <xannen> bilygates, how do I get the md5-of-password?
[13:39] <grizli> hi
[13:40] <edbian> lovre: Where does it report this?
[13:40] <xannen> bilygates, It is surprising that something this simple is not implemented or can be easily found out.
[13:40] <lovre> edbian: in the tray application, and also when i type iwconfig
[13:40] <grizli> здесь кто-то говорит по-русски :)
[13:41] <edbian> lovre: Do you have a weak signal?
[13:41] <lovre> edbian: 50% signal
[13:41] <bilygates> @xannen online service, one of many: http://www.md5.cz/
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> !ru| grizli
[13:41] <bilygates> @xannen you could also make a simple script to do it
[13:41] <jwrigley> xannen: echo my-awesome-hard-to-guess-password |md5sum
[13:41] <edbian> lovre: It's probably a limitation of the driver.  have you noticed that it's slow? i.e. if you download something are you actually limited to 1Mb/s ?
[13:41] <Atharva> Hi...I have a hp pavillion. It has a finger print reader.I am unable to activate it..Any Idea ?
[13:41] <jwrigley> xannen: bad form to be posting your password online
[13:42] <lovre> edbian: yes, its slow
[13:42] <edbian> lovre: Probably a limitation of the driver.  What card is this?
[13:42] <nikabj> I try this command to join :  /join #learn-c++,but I cant join
[13:43] <xannen> bilygates, jwrigley : Specifically how do I integrate the md5 generation digest within the psql command line mode.
[13:43] <antonio_> hello, does anybody knows a chan where i can talk about apache and mysql issues?
[13:43] <infinite_entropy> psql, yuck
[13:43] <bilygates> @xannen if you're using psql, why don't you just use /password? :s
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> nikabj: first type /knock #[channel], to see if it exists
[13:44] <lovre> edbian: http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?model=TL-WN422G
[13:44] <grizli> how install xampp server?
[13:45] <lovre> grizli: download and unpack works for e
[13:45] <lovre> for me*
[13:45] <jrib> !lamp | grizli
[13:45] <antonio_> hello, does anybody knows how to change root mysql password after a fresh install?
[13:45] <Fudge> hi how do i install a package with a .dsc file
[13:45] <jwrigley> xannen: md5(my-awesome-hard-to-guess-password)
[13:45] <xannen> bilygates, I guess I could.  Just wondering if SQL-standard command covers it.
[13:45] <jwrigley> * xannen: md5('my-awesome-hard-to-guess-password')
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> lovre: in Terminal type tasksel
[13:46] <xannen> It is more value to adopt SQL-compliant command, and that way you can use it with other DBMS.
[13:46] <nikabj> !register
[13:46] <lovre> MonkeyDust: the program tasksel not installed
[13:46] <lovre> MonkeyDust: should i install it
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> lovre: yes
[13:46] <nikabj> how can I found list of channel?
[13:46] <Pici> !alis | nikabj
[13:46] <jrib> Fudge: what package?  Why do you have a .dsc file?
[13:46] <edbian> lovre: what I'm not familiar with this card.  Read about it here: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/zd1211rw/devices?highlight=%28tl-wn422g%29
[13:46] <lovre> MonkeyDust: wait, what is this about? im not asking about lampp, grizli is
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> lovre: you want to install a lamp server?
[13:47] <lovre> MonkeyDust: no, grizli does
[13:47] <sebster> I've switched to ubuntu classic in 11.04 and I can't find any keyboard shortcuts for starting nautilus etc. Are there any? cheers
[13:47] <jwrigley> xannen: what is your application? python, php, C, java?
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> ok
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> :)
[13:47] <harold> hola me podria decir como entrar en el canal en español?
[13:47] <edbian> lovre: and here: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k_htc/devices?highlight=%28tl-wn422g%29   unfortunately the link is broken right now
[13:47] <Myrtti> !es | harold
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> grizli: in Terminal type tasksel
[13:47] <xannen> jwrigley, I'm referring to postgresql command line mode.
[13:47] <Night_demon> Help me pls     checking for GCONF... no configure: error: Package requirements (gconf-2.0) were not met:  Failed to open '/usr/lib/pkgconfig/gconf-2.0.pc': No such file or directory No package 'gconf-2.0' found  Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non-standard prefix.  Alternatively, you may set the environment variables GCONF_CFLAGS and GCONF_LIBS to avoid the need to call
[13:47] <antonio_> hello, does anybody knows how to change root mysql password after a fresh install?
[13:47] <lovre> edbian: i have found this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=768301
[13:48] <kalami> hay all
[13:48] <rigved> sebster: there is a Favourites button on some keyboards. by default, it is used to launch nautilus to your home folder
[13:48] <lovre> edbian: but when i do this command: sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M, i get this error: SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported.
[13:48] <rigved> sebster: or, you can set the Keyboard shortcuts to something else.
[13:48] <bilygates> @antonio_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[13:48] <jwrigley> xannen: in postgresql you can just use the function md5()
[13:48] <edbian> lovre: limitation of the driver
[13:49] <edbian> lovre: that's wireless N so you should be able to get 300Mb/s
[13:49] <sebster> rigved: I don't have the fav button and the keyboard shortcuts don't seem to have anything for natilus etc.
[13:49] <antonio_> bilygates, thanks i'll try that :)
[13:49] <lovre> edbian: so you believe its the driver that doesnt allow faster than 1mbps
[13:49] <edbian> lovre: yes
[13:49] <lovre> edbian: :(
[13:49] <lovre> edbian: i didnt even install any driver for this, it was automatically recognised... Maybe thats the problem
[13:50] <lovre> edbian: i thought since its recognized it should work. but it uses generic drivers probably
[13:50] <jwrigley> xannen: SQL, does not have md5 hashing build in. So if you want to do md5, you need to do it with whatever extension you are using -- either the specific database syntax or php or whatever
[13:50] <rigved> sebster: you can create a new custom shorcut for nautilus.
[13:50] <lovre> edbian: what are my options if there arent linux drivers for this wireless module? Can i try any other 'generic' ones
[13:51] <xannen> jwrigley, thank you. :-)
[13:51] <edbian> lovre: any driver you use will be a 'linux' driver.  Sometimes the manufacturer will put out a driver (a linux driver).  I am not familiar with the drivers for this device.  That's the point of the river
[13:52] <antonio_> bilygates, it's normal that no rows are affected by the commands i'm typing?
[13:52] <lovre> edbian: yes, i know, i was wondering if there are 'generic' drivers i could try, like third party or something... Im going to try to down the interface and set the speed, see if that helps. Be back in a bit
[13:53] <sebster> rigved: what do I put as command? nautilus and bash -c nautilus don't work...
[13:53] <bilygates> @antonio_ i don't know because i'm mostly using postgresql :s
[13:53] <antonio_> damn :\ thanks anyway :) is there anybody else that knows how to change mysql root password?
[13:54] <lovre> back
[13:54] <rigved> sebster: nautilus /home/sebster or whichever path that you want to give it.
[13:54] <sebster> rigved: thanks that's working
[13:54] <rigved> sebster: you are welcome.
[13:54] <lovre> edbian: what does 'Mode' option mean, i can set it to 'Infrastructure' or 'Ad-hoc'?
[13:56] <tyler_d> howdy all. I'm running 11.04 i386, my cd rom drive froze up and would not eject by bunton or by nautilus, or cli; I was forced to manually open/eject the drive and restarted, now when I attempt to eject the drive it flashes however is not responsive and does not show in nautilus; any help would be fantastical tyia
[13:58] <kidnox39> Hi guys, I have a problem with my netbook and huawei e620 integrated module. When I start netbook sometimes the 3g module is detected, sometimes isn't detected. If the module doesn't detected it doesn't show in the lsusb list. Can you help me? I have use the rfkill unlock all command but the modem isn't detected.
[13:58] <dr_willis> lovre:  for a pc to pc - you can do ad-hoc.. for a pc to router you would use infrasturcure
[13:59] <lovre> dr_willis: ok thanx. How can i find out what chip is my wireless module based on? Im trying to find  a driver for it...
[13:59] <aubre> does anyone know how to make iscsi connection logins persistent across reboots on the initiator ? using 10.04 server LTS
[14:00] <lovre> dr_willis: i guess i should install this: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/zd1211rw   but im not sure how. any ideas
[14:00] <essdy> hi pls does anyone knows what is the problem when ubuntu cant see every wifis? i dont think hidden ones of course
[14:00] <dr_willis> lovre:   I rarely mess with wireless. My laptops all work out of the box for me.
[14:01] <lovre> dr_willis: yes, laptops do, but this is not a laptop :( i guess ill have to dig into it and see what happens. Thanx anyways
[14:01] <dr_willis> lovre:  determind the chipset, via lspci perhaps. and check the forums and askubuntu.com
[14:01] <Pharmakon> Hello Saintly Helpers, I am running 11.04 and have a GeForce 7300 LE, when I switch to new x-server in the NVIDIA settings pane and restart x-server..... I get blank! Does anybody have an idea of what I should do or where I should ask for help?
[14:01] <lovre> dr_willis: ok, thanx
[14:02] <dr_willis> 'switch to the new x-server' ?  clarify what you mean by that Pharmakon .
[14:02] <xannen> On new installation of postgresql, is the postgres user password set as randomly generated one?
[14:03] <essdy> :(
[14:03] <sebster> I've written a script that I want to get executed on a certain keyboard shortcut. It worked for a while, then the shortcut stopped working. I set a new shortcut, which worked for a while and has now also stopped. When I run the script it still works. Any ideas what's going on there? I've got a custom shortcut running bash -c ~/script.sh
[14:03] <ubuntuhatesme> I want to shutdown lubuntu by pressing power button on keyboard, is there any way to do it?
[14:03] <Pharmakon> dr_willis: When I try to select 'seperate x-screen' and restart the x server I get blank.
[14:03] <Pharmakon> I hope that was clear.
[14:04] <dr_willis> Pharmakon:  ive rarely ever needed that option. why are you using it?
[14:05] <nikabj> who work v4l2?
[14:05] <bilygates> @xannen i don't know if it's random or blank, but you can log in only locally using Ident (e.g. using sudo -u postgresql psql) until you set a new password
[14:05] <Pharmakon> dr_willis: Because when I use twin-view the windows do not snap to the edges, I assumed 'seperate x screen' would solve this.
[14:05] <Atharva> Can anyone please help me with finger print reader ?
[14:05] <xannen> bilygates, that's what I do.  But just curious.
[14:05] <tasse> is
[14:06] <bilygates> @xannen it would be wrong to allow outside access to your pg server without any password :)
[14:06] <dr_willis> Pharmakon:  I doubt if its what you want. It would run 2 differnt X sessions that you could for example, run 2 totally differnt desktops on. (one on each monitor)
[14:06] <dr_willis> Pharmakon:  the snap to edge feature sounds like a compiz bug/issue.
[14:07] <Pharmakon> dr_willis: ah
[14:07] <dr_willis> Pharmakon:  i do seem to recall the edge snap working forme when i had 2 monitors. but ive not tried it lately.
[14:08] <xannen> bilygates, I have read that ident could also pose security risk, and there are suggestion to change mode to md5 in the hba.conf file and restart postgresql.
[14:08] <m_> majkols
[14:08] <m_> hello all
[14:08] <m_> I have a question
[14:09] <Pharmakon> dr_willis: bless the ubuntu developers for giving me as much functionality on one monitor as two running on the old GNOME 2 desktop, but my second monitor is less productive than one monitor if I cannot snap windows to the edges of the screen. It works fine with KDE on fedora and (**scoff**) windows 7.
[14:09] <Atharva> !ask | m_
[14:09] <Pharmakon> dr_willis: Do you have any suggested ways to troubleshoot what might be a compiz issue?
[14:10] <nebula> help
[14:10] <mXr> i just upgraded my "development vm" from natty to oneiric; now on booting, network won't start. it has something to do with dbus / plymouth-upstart-brige, but i cant find any more info on the web regarding that. any ideas?
[14:10] <nebula> bash: ./setup.sh: Permission denied
[14:10] <Guest84811> text mode is displayed as diamond under the Chinese
[14:10] <bilygates> @xannen i don't see how it could be a security risk, but maybe someone from #postgresql can answer to that
[14:11] <bilygates> @nebula try chmod +X setup.sh
[14:11] <nebula> axa
[14:11] <Guest84811> How to solve?
[14:11] <xannen> bilygates, I do not know exact details either.  I'm still learning and exploring.  :-0
[14:11] <xannen> :-)
[14:12] <Pharmakon> dr_willis: I have the exact same issue as this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqrA0Wc_YV4
[14:12] <Guest84811> I installed ZHCON other by talking about the Internet is still not done
[14:12] <nebula> bilygates, chmod: changing permissions of `setup.sh': Function not implemented
[14:13] <m_> On my netbook Asus 1001HA graphics is integrated with mainboard and performance is low. How can I increase performance? I'm new the Ubuntu user. I installed Ubuntu few minuts ago. Animation is nice but I only want high performance and speed
[14:13] <Pharmakon> Actually  my issue is a little bit different ^^^^^^^^^^^
[14:13] <topof> afternoon all
[14:13] <bilygates> @nebula err try lowercase x, sorry
[14:13] <bilygates> @nebula chmod +x setup.sh
[14:14] <bourke> I think the first and third values are min/max size, but not sure about the second value
[14:14] <B0g4r7_> m_, see if the Additional Drivers applet thing has anything to say.
[14:14] <bourke> In a preseed file, what do the 3 values represent in the expert_recipe line? e.g. 40 50 100 ext3
[14:15] <topof> anyone have any ideas how to make space on a 10 gig  acer netbook running a fresh install of ubunto 11.04 it says i only have 2 gig spare???
[14:15] <t-minus> why is it that when I add the updates, it slows the boot up time down...?
[14:15] <antonio_> why do you think that mysql installation stops at "Configuring mysql-server-5.1 (5.1.54-1ubuntu4)..."
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> t-minus: use preload to boost your system
[14:16] <t-minus> k thanks
[14:17] <nebula> bilygates, chmod: changing permissions of `setup.sh': Function not implemented  HELP
[14:17] <B0g4r7_> antonio_, 10 gigs is not much these days.  You can disable swap and take that space to get a little more I suppose.
[14:17] <kidnox39> How can I switch on the 3g module mini pci-e card?
[14:18] <nebula> bilygates, Heroes III CD and change
[14:18] <antonio_> mmmm what do you mean? i didnt ask anything about hard disk space :D
[14:18] <Guest84811> .............
[14:19] <CosmicVoyager> Hi. How does Ubuntu RAM and CPU demands compare to Mac and WIndows?
[14:19] <B0g4r7_> oh, sorry, I meant to direct that line to topof
[14:19] <ikonia> CosmicVoyager: same ball park
[14:19] <topof> antonio linux newbie good with windows doing it for a lady friend how to disable swap please
[14:19] <ikonia> topof: why do you want to disable swap ?
[14:19] <bilygates> @nebula if that install is on a cd, try to copy it locally and then run it. otherwise, i don't know
[14:20] <B0g4r7_> I suggested that by disabling swap, that space can be reclaimed for storage.
[14:20] <topof> need hd space its a 10 gig netbook with only 2 gid spare after ubunto 11.04??
[14:20] <michaelfavia> is there anywhere to get the beta2 spins yet? i have a friend that needs a reformat right now and id prefer to use that over beta1
[14:20] <CosmicVoyager> ikonia hmm i would have thought it less...i wold like to see a chart of how much each OS uses when only the OS is running doing nothing
[14:20] <ikonia> topof: how much ram do you have
[14:20] <topof> 1gb
[14:20] <ikonia> CosmicVoyager: it's the same ball park, it will vary slightly depending on your personal setup,
[14:20] <bilygates> i didn't knew beta2 was out yet
[14:21] <ikonia> topof: are you aware of the issues disabling swap may cause ?
[14:21] <m_> How can i increase graphic performance in Ubuntu?
[14:21] <michaelfavia> bilygates, tonight i believe
[14:21] <ikonia> m_: what video card do you currently use ?
[14:21] <BananaCreator> Hello space!
[14:21] <michaelfavia> m_, proprietary drivers if you have a video card
[14:21] <ikonia> michaelfavia: please wait for inforamtion before dishing out random advice
[14:21] <topof> no need any ideas to free uip some space, cant understand how 8 gig is used for OS
[14:22] <ilon> funny, just installed 11.04, grub failed to install so i installed it from a livecd, now it dosnt add my newly installed ubuntu
[14:22] <michaelfavia> ikonia, please mind your own business
[14:22] <m_> I have graphic integreated with mainboard
[14:22] <ikonia> topof: please pastebin the output of "df -h"
[14:22] <ikonia> michaelfavia: no, your advice is wrong
[14:22] <ikonia> m_: that's most likley an intel card, which has good support out of the box, what issues are you seeing with it
[14:22] <ikonia> m_: could you pastebin the output of "lspci" please so we can see what video card your using if you're not sure
[14:22] <irv> what's a good utility for making a lot of copies of a cd
[14:23] <popey> irv: wodim
[14:23] <ikonia> irv: any of the CD burning tools will save the settings and you can just keep going
[14:23] <michaelfavia> ikonia, in what way? any discrete video card performs better with third party drivers like i said.
[14:23] <popey> michaelfavia: thats flat out not true for all video cards
[14:23] <topof> ikonia: how to open
[14:23] <ikonia> michaelfavia: he's using an intel card, there are no propriatary drivers,
[14:23] <ikonia> topof: do you know how to open a terminal
[14:23] <michaelfavia> ikonia, and its not a discrete gpu
[14:23] <Anarchy7> hey guys do you know a host system which can get my file with url upload and then I can get it back with wget?
[14:24] <ikonia> michaelfavia: discrete gpu ?
[14:24] <antonio_> why do you think that mysql installation stops at "Configuring mysql-server-5.1 (5.1.54-1ubuntu4)..."
[14:24] <m_> Ubuntu is my new way, and i don't know about pastebin and...other
[14:24] <ikonia> m_: that's fine
[14:24] <ikonia> !pastebin | michaelfavia
[14:24] <topof> did earlier forgot now
[14:24] <popey> michaelfavia: he has an 1001HA which has Intel video chip
[14:24] <ikonia> oops sorry michaelfavia
[14:24] <ikonia> !pastebin | m_
[14:24] <ikonia> m_: if you use that URL you can paste text in it, that you can share with the channel
[14:25] <michaelfavia> its an integrated gpu.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_processing_unit
[14:25] <michaelfavia> you know what ill let you guys handle it. good luck im going to work.
[14:25] <popey> michaelfavia: its an intel GPU which has no proprietary driver.
[14:25] <ikonia> michaelfavia: yes, so randomly suggesting "popriatary" drivers is flat out wrong.
[14:25] <topof> ikonia:amanda@amandas-netbook:~$ df -h Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda1             7.0G  6.3G  310M  96% / none                  236M  648K  235M   1% /dev none                  243M  192K  242M   1% /dev/shm none                  243M  216K  242M   1% /var/run none                  243M     0  243M   0% /var/lock amanda@amandas-netbook:~$
[14:25] <ikonia> topof: please use a patebin as I asked
[14:26] <topof> sry dont know pastebin
[14:26] <ikonia> topof: from that, you have an OS drive of 6GB, and you are only using 310Meg
[14:26] <ikonia> topof: you have over 5GB of 6GB spare
[14:26] <ikonia> topof: pastebin.com
[14:26] <topof> keeps warning there is only 300mb left
[14:26] <ikonia> topof: where ?
[14:26] <topof> in a popup window
[14:27] <ikonia> topof: oh wait, maybe the formatting is off
[14:27] <ikonia> topof: could you please put that in a pastebin
[14:27] <auronandace> ikonia: doesn't it say the drive is 7gb and he is using 6.3gb?
[14:27] <topof> explain pastebin please
[14:27] <ikonia> auronandace: yes, I think the formatting is off
[14:27] <ikonia> topof: open that URL that I gave you and copy the text into it
[14:27] <auronandace> !paste | topof
[14:27] <bilygates> @ikonia topof i believe it says 310MB free, 6.3GB used
[14:28] <sc30317> hey all, I am trying to startup apache2,and it gives me the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/694488/
[14:28] <Pharmakon> Does any helpfulperson know how I can change my 'grid' in compiz to be 8 squares (4 on each screen) instead of 4 over two screens?
[14:28] <sc30317> anyone have any idea?
[14:28] <ikonia> bilygates: yes, I think the formatting was just out of line for me
[14:28] <ikonia> sc30317: it's already running
[14:28] <ikonia> sc30317: or some other webserver is running on port 80
[14:28] <bilygates> @sc30317 there's another process using that port, possibly another instance of apache
[14:29] <topof> http://paste.ubuntu.com/694491/
[14:29] <sc30317> bilygates, ikonia I don't think there is anything else running on that port
[14:29] <ikonia> sc30317: there is
[14:29] <ikonia> sc30317: see if it responds
[14:29] <ikonia> sc30317: telnet localhost 80
[14:29] <sc30317> sudo netstat -lnp | grep '0.0.0.0:80'
[14:29] <sc30317>  shows nothing
[14:29] <ikonia> topof: ok, so you are using 60
[14:29] <ikonia> sc30317: that's not how you use netstat
[14:29] <ikonia> topof: sorry 6GB
[14:30] <topof> thought it was a fresh i nstall
[14:30] <adi11> hello. anyone can help me with boot freezing on hp dv6700 with ubuntu 11.04. just after choosing ubuntu on grub page all i see is the purple screen. it hangs on there. thanks
[14:30] <bilygates> @sc30317 sudo netstat -lpn | grep :80
[14:30] <sc30317> ikonia, then why does it say  capgemini@Capgemini-HP:~$ service apache2 status
[14:30] <sc30317> Apache2 is NOT running.
[14:30] <llutz> sc30317: sudo lsof -i :80
[14:30] <macer1> join #meetingology
[14:30] <ikonia> sc30317: do the test I suggested
[14:30] <macer1> oops
[14:30] <sc30317> ikonia, got it
[14:30] <sc30317> aolserver?
[14:30] <ikonia> sc30317: there you go
[14:30] <ikonia> sc30317: that's what's running on port 80
[14:31] <macer1> my error trying to do /join :D
[14:31] <sc30317> ikonia, thanks!
[14:31] <sc30317> got it working
[14:31] <bilygates> no idea aol had an open source server o.0
[14:31] <ikonia> topof: I'd suggest looking in your home directory, and looking int he package manager to see what packages you have installed and removing any software you dont' want/need
[14:32] <adi11> help needed with ubuntu 11.04 on a hp dv6700 ... it freezes after the grub page..
[14:33] <adi11> thank u anyone
[14:33] <s093294>  /join #qt
[14:33] <bilygates> @topof i recommend you use baobab to see what's eating up space
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[14:34] <m_>  5
[14:34] <FloodBot1> m_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:34] <m_>  6
[14:34] <ikonia> m_: please don't flood the channel like that
[14:35] <zouky> O
[14:40] <lanlife> How to solve BT5R1 Chinese garbled text mode??????????
[14:44] <Fawzib> question: what packages i need in 11.10 other than unity-2d/lightdm/light-themes to have a minimal desktop
[14:44] <popey> Fawzib: thats a question for #ubuntu+1
[14:44] <Fawzib> ah ok
[14:44] <Pharmakon> Does anybody know how to set up Compiz so I can snap windows to the middle of the screen on a dual-screen layout?
[14:44] <popey> Pharmakon: that works for me by default
[14:44] <topof> ikonia done the baobab and home is 2 gig
[14:44] <Pharmakon> popey: not for me!
[14:45] <popey> Pharmakon: nvidia twinview?
[14:45] <Pharmakon> popey: I have Nvidia drivers installed
[14:45] <Pharmakon> popey: It might work without them installed, I don't know
[14:45] <Pharmakon> popey: Yes
[14:45] <popey> Pharmakon: yeah, worked or me on nvidia twinview, sorry
[14:46] <Pharmakon> popey: Are you running 11.04?
[14:46] <popey> Pharmakon: i was, yes
[14:46] <Pharmakon> popey: What version of the NVidia drivers?
[14:47] <popey> Pharmakon: no idea, i dont use it now, it was whatever was in 11.04
[14:47] <Pharmakon> popey: Ok
[14:47] <ikonia> topof: thats a lot of data in /home, what's in /home ?
[14:47] <Pharmakon> popey: that is weird
[14:47] <Pharmakon> popey: There must be something different
[14:48] <idefix> I'd just like to know.. whenever I use hotmail and PidgIn together the latter says it isn't possible, why is that?
[14:48] <bilygates> @pharmakon i have twinview too on 11.04 and snap is working between monitors :s
[14:48] <Delemas> Uhm this should be obvious but I can't seem to find it. Lucid Lynx is based on which Debian release?
[14:49] <Pharmakon> bilygates: snap is working, but what if you want to snap to the edge on the middle of the screen?
[14:49] <Pharmakon> bilygates: ***middle of the desktop*** i mean
[14:49] <bilygates> that seems to work too
[14:49] <jack_^> How is the 11.10 beta? im thinking about re-isntalling and throwing it on there and updating through RC to gold. thoughts?
[14:49] <popey> Pharmakon: oh hang on, against the right edge of the left screen and against the left edge of the right screen?
[14:50] <topof> thanks ikonia
[14:50] <popey> Pharmakon: because that's what works for me
[14:50] <bilygates> i think he means in the middle, between the two monitors
[14:50] <Pharmakon> popey: yes!
[14:50] <Pharmakon> popey: that is not working, I want to do that.
[14:50]  * popey shrugs
[14:50] <popey> sorry
[14:50] <Pharmakon> I want to snap against the right edge of the left screen and the left edge of the right screen.
[14:50] <bilygates> but are you sure it's working on the other margins?
[14:50] <Pharmakon> Like in **scoff*** windows 7
[14:51] <bilygates> maybe it's completely disabled?
[14:51] <ikonia> Pharmakon: I'm not sure that will work as twinview see it as one screen
[14:51] <Pharmakon> bilygates: It certainly is working on the right hand side of the right screen and the left hand side of the left screen.
[14:51] <Pharmakon> bilygates: takes some wrangling
[14:51] <ikonia> Pharmakon: xinerama is 2 screens merged, twinview is 1 screen
[14:51] <ikonia> Pharmakon: maybe one of the guys bilygates popey can confirm if that worked
[14:51] <bilygates> @ikonia it's working for me using twinview
[14:51] <Pharmakon> I press ctrl-alt-6(keypad) twice to get it on the right hand side of the right screen
[14:51] <bilygates> altought i'm using gnome classic, it that makes any difference
[14:52] <ikonia> bilygates: so you can snap to the inside edge of both monitors ?
[14:52] <popey> yup, working here too
[14:52] <bilygates> @ikonia yup, the windows get 'glued' to the middle of de desktop, between the two monitors
[14:52] <ikonia> bilygates: no, not between
[14:52] <ikonia> bilygates: the edge of either the left/right monitor, on the inside
[14:52] <Pharmakon> ikonia: xinerama?
[14:53] <ikonia> Pharmakon: don't worry about that, just see if bilygates and popey confirm it's working
[14:53] <Pharmakon> bilygates: I am using unity
[14:53] <popey> 15:52:04 < popey> yup, working here too
[14:53] <bilygates> @ikonia yes, that's what i meant, my english sucks :d
[14:53] <bilygates> maybe it's a unity-thing?
[14:53] <Pharmakon> bilygates: I think so
[14:53] <ikonia> popey: sorry missed that
[14:53] <ikonia> popey: plus there seemed to be some confusion as to the middle of the screen and the inside boarders of the two screens.
[14:53] <bilygates> popey, are you using unity or gnome-classic?
[14:53] <popey> it was under unity
[14:53] <popey> i am not right this moment
[14:54] <Pharmakon> Ok so in the compiz settings file there is way of changing some of the settings for the 'grid' which the windows snap to.
[14:54] <Pharmakon> but I don't see anyway of configuring edges.
[14:54] <Pharmakon> should I try this '
[14:54] <Pharmakon> '
[14:55] <Pharmakon> 'xinerama' thing?
[14:55] <ikonia> Pharmakon: no no
[14:55] <Pharmakon> ikonia: ok
[14:55] <dj_beirut> hi.. i am having problems with changing permissions to a folder with owner "nobody" and group "nogroup" i have root access.
[14:55] <ikonia> Pharmakon: I shouldn't have mentioned that, I didn't mean to add confusion to the mix
[14:55] <ikonia> dj_beirut: what's the issue ?
[14:55] <Pharmakon> ikonia: ok
[14:55] <Pharmakon> any ideas?
[14:56] <dj_beirut> ikonia i can't change the owner so i can move delete or edit it.
[14:56] <ikonia> Pharmakon: I don't have a box to test on at the moment, so will struggle to prgoress
[14:56] <ikonia> dj_beirut: what command are you using
[14:56] <dj_beirut> chown
[14:56] <dj_beirut> chown -R
[14:56] <ikonia> dj_beirut: please show me the exact command
[14:56] <bilygates> @pharmakon are you using wobbly windows?
[14:56] <ikonia> dj_beirut: please show me the exact command
[14:57] <Pharmakon> @bilygates Nope
[14:57] <dj_beirut> sudo chown -R myusername /media/test/TV/Suits/
[14:57] <Pharmakon> @bilygates you mean when I drag do they 'wobble'? then nope
[14:57] <ikonia> dj_beirut: and what is the error ?
[14:57] <abrie> !list
[14:57] <dj_beirut> Operation not permitted
[14:57] <ikonia> dj_beirut: what file system is on the disk /media/test/TV/Suits
[14:58] <bilygates> @pharmakon ok, that extension overrides snap, that's why i asked
[14:58] <dj_beirut> nfs i think.. it's a nas disk
[14:58] <Pharmakon> @bilygates do you know any other extensions that might overide snap that I can double check against?
[14:58] <ikonia> dj_beirut: worth checking as that maybe the issue,
[14:58] <Trashi> hi guys. i have a lenovo thinkpad sl510 with an integrated 7in1 cardreader. if i put in a sd or xd card nothing happens. could someone try to help please?
[14:58] <bilygates> @pharmakon nope, but if snapping windows is enabled in ccsm then it should work :s
[14:59] <dj_beirut> it is: /media/test type nfs
[14:59] <bilygates> @pharmakon you can't enable both snapping windows and wobbly windows afaik
[15:00] <ikonia> dj_beirut: so the permissions are controled from the server, and by the mount statement used to mount it
[15:00] <hypertyper> I'm writing a script and I need to detect whether a laptop is on battery or mains. How do I detect that? Thanks
[15:00] <Greyster> just a noob testing
[15:00] <Pharmakon> @bilygates Snapping  is enabled and wobbly windows is disabled
[15:00] <llutz> hypertyper: acpi -V    maybe
[15:01] <dj_beirut> ikonia: so what can i do about it? i don't have problems deleting or addind files to the rest of the files!
[15:01] <ikonia> llutz: that's an interesting method,
[15:01] <idefix> my housemate is dutch and doesn't like to be called 'dude', what do I call him?
[15:01] <ikonia> idefix: that's nothing to do with ubuntu - which is what this channel is about
[15:01] <idefix> sorry wrong channel
[15:01] <llutz> ikonia: not elegant, but...
[15:01] <bilygates> @hypertyper this might help you http://www.basicallytech.com/blog/index.php?/archives/110-Colour-coded-battery-charge-level-and-status-in-your-bash-prompt.html
[15:01] <ikonia> dj_beirut: rest of the files ?
[15:01] <ikonia> llutz: very intersting
[15:02] <MMlosh> Hi!  Is it normal&tolerated for QTopia to create  /.config directory  (in the root dir!) and hide stuff there?
[15:02] <hypertyper> thanks, I'm off to investigate
[15:02] <dj_beirut> ikonia the other files and directories in the /media/test
[15:02] <ikonia> dj_beirut: can you show me the output of "ls -la /media/test" please.
[15:03] <ikonia> dj_beirut: (use a pastebin please)
[15:03] <i-was-fedora>  hi , i have a problem dealing with some of my (iso) file types over my (hard disk) ... i don't know what happened , but now they are read as (data) by the file utility ....not able to mount them or extract files from them .. any suggestions ??
[15:03] <dj_beirut> ikonia http://pastebin.com/4eC3DyTZ
[15:04] <llutz> hypertyper: grep charging /proc/acpi/battery/BAT?/state
[15:05] <ikonia> dj_beirut: so if you do this exact command "sudo chown dj_beirut:dj_beirut /media/test/Music"
[15:05] <ikonia> dj_beirut: what do you get from that exact command
[15:06] <dj_beirut> ikonia i get the same damn thing! :/
[15:06] <ikonia> dj_beirut: what about "sudo touch /media/test/test_file"
[15:07] <dj_beirut> no error
[15:07] <dj_beirut> i got a file called test_file
[15:07] <hypertyper> bilygates and llutz, thanks for your help, I should have something to work with now
[15:07] <ikonia> dj_beirut: can you show me the output of ls -la /media/test/test_file
[15:08] <dj_beirut> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 0 2011-09-21 17:07 /media/test/test_file
[15:08] <ikonia> dj_beirut: ok, the fact that the file is owned by the same user when you made it as root, suggests the server (nfs server) is locking the ownership, which is possible with NFS
[15:08] <ikonia> dj_beirut: the owner needs to be set either a.) on the server b.) the mount options, if your setup permits it
[15:09] <dj_beirut> ikonia you mean in fstab where i am mounting this?
[15:09] <ikonia> dj_beirut: it's more likley it's locked on the server
[15:09] <ikonia> dj_beirut: it's doubtful that will work, but possible
[15:09] <dj_beirut> i have access to that too..'
[15:12] <club_> hi everybody
[15:14] <dj_beirut> ikonia now i added the desktop i am using as a root priviliged host to the nfs settings on the server
[15:16] <acalvo> o
[15:20] <drgeb> I am getting this error while running any idea what it means ? "symbol lookup error: undefined symbol: _ZN9QListData11detach_growEPii"
[15:23] <MMlosh> Oh forget about my  extraneous  (Root dir!) /.config/Trolltech.conf .. it is probably a bug in kubuntu instalator I used
[15:24] <pythonsnake> What is the difference between dist-upgrade and upgrade ?
[15:25] <irv> brasero doesn't seem to be burning multiple copies of my iso. it's failing to eject the cd, then the burn another copy window just sits there. although the blank cd is showing up in OS
[15:26] <tsousa> i have an installation of ubuntu 11.04. i installed the latests upgrades but know 5 in 5 minutos my wireless goes down
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> pythonsnake: upgrade is al your software, dist-upgrade is your os
[15:26] <tsousa> what seems to be the problem?
[15:26] <pythonsnake> MonkeyDust: if I dist-upgrade my Lucid, it'll become 11.04 ?
[15:26] <Flannel> pythonsnake: upgrade makes all the packages you currently have move to the latest version if possible.  dist-upgrade makes all the packages move to the latest version, even if that means installing new packages.
[15:27] <ApolloSmile> hello
[15:27] <pythonsnake> ah ok
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> pythonsnake: after L comes M, Maverick, 11.04 is N, Natty
[15:27] <pythonsnake> thanks
[15:28] <pythonsnake> and O, Oneiric
[15:28] <pythonsnake> :)
[15:28] <pythonsnake> The following packages have been kept back:
[15:28] <pythonsnake> oops
[15:29] <ApolloSmile> I am 100% new to ubuntu just installed it i needed to know how to tell ubunto to read my ntfs partitions however this harddrive has 2 seperate partitions and it reads the second one witch is ntfs but the main one with my files dont show how to i make it show the other partition on ubunto please be specific as posible as this is new to me
[15:29] <pythonsnake> I have added docky dev ppa but it won't upgrade: The following packages have been kept back: Docky
[15:29] <pythonsnake> What's wrong ?
[15:29] <Oneiros> xoda exla ra vqnat unda viswavlo me wavedi :D
[15:29] <MMlosh> Hi! Do you know where is the __K__Ubuntu bugtracker.. if that thing exists at all?
[15:30] <Polah> Does install Ubuntu to a USB drive work the same as installing to an internal drive?
[15:31] <Lithos84> !ntfs | ApolloSmile
[15:31] <ikonia> Polah: it does, but the boot loader is a tricky thing to manage in that situation
[15:31] <Polah> ikonia: How so?
[15:31] <ikonia> Polah: well, where are you going to put the boot loader ?
[15:32] <Polah> ikonia: On the USB drive
[15:32] <ApolloSmile> reDING IT
[15:32] <ApolloSmile> thanks
[15:32] <compdoc> a usb memory stick, or ausb external hard drive?
[15:32] <ikonia> Polah: ok, so that means each time you want to use it you'll have to override your motherboard and tell it to boot from the USB drive, is that possible on your machine ?
[15:33] <Polah> ikonia: Well, USB is set to be selected for boot first. I can also choose which device to boot from temporarily as well
[15:33] <ikonia> Polah: that should be easier to manage
[15:34] <Polah> ikonia: So in that case can I just configure GRUB as I would normally?
[15:34] <ikonia> Polah: as long as it's on the usb boot loader, and your OS is self contained on the boot loader
[15:35] <ikonia> Polah: sorry, I phrased that bad, as long as the boot loader is onthe USB drive and the OS is self contained fully on the USB, that should be managable
[15:35] <kasi> how can I mount a .cdr file in ubuntu?
[15:35] <Polah> ikonia: Ah good. Also, would it be possible for me to tell GRUB to boot from an ISO on my system arbitrarily, to install on this USB drive, without have to edit my grub config file?
[15:35] <Maniakes> has anyone used samba with encrypted partitions?
[15:36] <CosmicVoyager> Hey. How do you cd to highest directory in terminal?
[15:36] <KirinDave> CosmicVoyager, cd /
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> CosmicVoyager: cd /
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> KirinDave was faster :)
[15:36] <KirinDave> CosmicVoyager, But you prooooobably want cd ~
[15:36] <CosmicVoyager> thanks i was hitting cd.. a zillion times
[15:36] <KirinDave> Also do consider pushd and popd
[15:36] <Maniakes> Kasi..  have you explored the mount command?
[15:37] <lukasz_> hello
[15:38] <ApolloSmile> so i need fuse now were to get fuse hehehe
[15:39] <kasi> Maniakes, I'll have to, I hoped that there would be a gui
[15:39] <Maniakes> have you tried just double clicking on the file?
[15:40] <ApolloSmile> unbunto software center shows to many fuse apps
[15:40] <ApolloSmile> idk witch one right one
[15:40] <Meluha> Hello ppl. i cant find the ubuntu unity plugin in ccsm. am using natty
[15:40] <Meluha> any clue?
[15:41] <Meluha> it isnt present in the desktop tab
[15:41] <pythonsnake> insyall it properly
[15:41] <ikonia> pythonsnake: how do you know it's not installed correctly ?
[15:42] <pythonsnake> because it's not present in ccsm
[15:42] <ikonia> does that mean for certain it's not installed correctly ?
[15:42] <Meluha> install what ccsm again?
[15:42] <Lithos84> ApolloSmile: In a terminal, type (without quotes) "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g"
[15:42] <ApolloSmile> ty
[15:44] <pythonsnake> ikonia: maybe you can give another suggestion ?
[15:44] <pythonsnake> i don't know
[15:44] <ikonia> pythonsnake: I would have liked a little more information before offering random advice,
[15:44] <ApolloSmile> this did not work in terminal sudp apt-get install ntfs-3g
[15:44] <ApolloSmile> opp
[15:44] <ApolloSmile> wrong letter
[15:44] <ikonia> pythonsnake: I'll let you progress it through
[15:44] <pythonsnake> ikonia: why..
[15:44] <ikonia> pythonsnake: you offered the advice, so see it through
[15:45] <pythonsnake> ..
[15:46] <pythonsnake> Meluha: how did you install the plugin
[15:46] <Maniakes> like the nick, IamTrying
[15:46] <ApolloSmile> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[15:46] <ApolloSmile> mount: only root can mount /dev/sda2 on /media/sda2
[15:46] <Meluha> @ pythonsnake... i havent
[15:46] <Guest79410> hi! if i want to make sure PATH and JAVA_HOME is correct, is it correct to just enter code into ~/.bash_profile ?
[15:46] <IamTrying> Maniakes, universal true :)
[15:46] <Meluha> im not able to find info
[15:47] <Guest79410> i guess something is wrong since the path is not updated as I log in
[15:47] <Guest79410> im using export PATH=.... and similarly for JAVA_HOME
[15:47] <dnivra> Guest79410: ~/.bashrc
[15:47] <Guest79410> dnivra, oh, so .bash_profile is not executed?
[15:47] <Lithos84> ApolloSmile: type "sudo" before "mount".
[15:47] <Guest79410> upon login...
[15:47] <Pharmakon> Does anybody know how I can get compiz to recognize that I have two screens. currently pop-up error messages are split between screens.
[15:48] <pythonsnake> Meluha: reinstall Unity
[15:48] <dnivra> Guest79410: i don't think there is a file called ~/.bash_profile. least I don't have it. anyway ~/.bashrc is the file you want :).
[15:48] <Anarchy7> I have a server and an FTP server, how can I transfer a file from my server to my ftp server?
[15:48] <Guest79410> ok thanks! ill try it
[15:48] <ikonia> pythonsnake: whoaaa
[15:48] <ikonia> re-install Unity as a compiz plugin is not installed ?
[15:48] <i-was-fedora> dnivra: u mean ~/.profile ??
[15:49] <Meluha> exaclt how do i reinstall unity?
[15:49] <ApolloSmile> i was trying to use the storage device maniger
[15:49] <Guest79410> btw, does it matter where in the file i type in the code?
[15:49] <pythonsnake> ikonia: yeah, maybe it's that http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1636558
[15:49] <idefix> I was just going to say that I wasn't supposed to say that then they kicked me from offtopic
[15:49] <Meluha> i just reinstalled unity-2d
[15:49] <Meluha> but it didnt work
[15:49] <ApolloSmile> i messed up something on it and now the one that it did see is unmounted
[15:49] <ApolloSmile> lol
[15:49] <kasi> I can mount the cdr file with the loop mount, however, I would have to specify a mount directory. Is there a more convenient way to mount a file under /media?
[15:49] <ikonia> pythonsnake: even if it was, there is no need to re-install all of unity
[15:50] <GreekFreak> Hello. I have purchased a laptop with the Radeon HD 6470M graphics card that is not supported. If I install the proprietry drivers, some programs don't work. If I leave the generic drivers, I get a black screen on boot. Any suggestions?
[15:50] <pythonsnake> ikonia: what do you suggests? ...
[15:51] <ikonia> GreekFreak: the cards that aren't supported rarley work
[15:51] <pythonsnake> suggest*
[15:51] <dnivra> i-was-fedora: no. that file isn't read if .bashrc exists
[15:51] <ikonia> pythonsnake: either a.) installing the plugin b.) re-installing the package that contains the plugin
[15:51] <dnivra> oh no I mean ~/.bash_profile.
[15:51] <pythonsnake> what is the package ?
[15:51] <GreekFreak> ikonia: I'm new to Linux, but I was under the impression that something would exist somewhere. I can't exactly return the laptop.
[15:51] <dnivra> like I said i-was-fedora ~/.bashrc does what Guest79410. I've done it anyway so am quite sure it works.
[15:52] <ikonia> GreekFreak: if the cards not supported, then no, $something won't exist
[15:52] <idefix> how do you talk to someone who's not in this channel?
[15:52] <ikonia> GreekFreak: the ATI cards are quite specifc in their support
[15:52] <ApolloSmile> hehe maby i should use ubunto on my server machine instead
[15:52] <i-was-fedora> dnivra: i don't remeber , but that's not 100% right ... bashrc related to (tty emulator)  .. pts , and profile realted to (tty) themself ..  something like that ;)
[15:52] <ApolloSmile> i installed the ati driver and it now isent as smooth desktop as it was
[15:53] <ApolloSmile> i have an ati 5670
[15:53] <GreekFreak> ikonia: is there somewhere I can find out when they will support it?
[15:53] <pythonsnake> idefix: /query foobar
[15:53] <ikonia> GreekFreak: you can contact ATI ?
[15:53] <GreekFreak> ikonia: lol
[15:54] <ikonia> GreekFreak: that was a serious suggestion
[15:54] <pythonsnake> lol
[15:54] <dnivra> i-was-fedora: i am not too sure about profile :). i know bashrc does work just like you said: tty and pts.
[15:54] <GreekFreak> ikonia: I'll have to wait for the States to wake up then
[15:54] <ikonia> GreekFreak: probably yes, but sending the email asap is worth while as it will take a few days at least to get a response, if you do get any
[15:55] <GreekFreak> ikonia: thank you
[15:55] <jacob__> hi again, does anyone know how to update java (JDK) version? i have the 1.7 binaries at /usr/local/java , but 'which java' results in /usr/bin/java
[15:56] <jacob__> if i want to fix this do i have to do something more than just updating PATH and JAVA_HOME?
[15:56] <ikonia> jacob__: either update your path or look at /etc/alternatives
[15:57] <ApolloSmile> will this work in ubuntu AMD Catalyst™ 11.8 Proprietary Linux x86 Display Driver
[15:58] <ApolloSmile> the linux driver
[15:58] <jacob__> ikonia, i guess the problem is that i cant remove /usr/bin from my path, and that takes precedence over the correct path
[15:58] <antonio_> does somebody knows a chan where people can help with php issues?
[15:58] <pythonsnake> antonio_: #php
[15:58] <ApolloSmile> #php
[15:58] <ApolloSmile> lololol
[15:58] <ikonia> jacob__: you don't remove /usr/bin from your path, you change the order and put /usr/local/bin first
[15:58] <ikonia> it's ##php
[15:58] <ikonia> not #php
[15:58] <jacob__> oh, duh, thx :)
[15:58] <antonio_> pythonsnake, it says that requires an invitation
[15:59] <pythonsnake> antonio_: ##php
[15:59] <ikonia> antonio_: the channel is ##php, not #php
[15:59] <antonio_> ok, now it says "##php :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services"
[15:59] <antonio_> i need to register into freenode?
[15:59] <pythonsnake> antonio_: /msg nickserv register mypass
[15:59] <antonio_> ok
[15:59] <pythonsnake> antonio_: /msg nickserv identify mypass
[16:00] <oizo> Question: I've got a new laptop, but some special keys aren't working (vol. up/down, play-pause and stop) how can i get these to work or assign them to something (system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts doesnt work)
[16:00] <pythonsnake> doesn't #php redirect to ##php ?
[16:00] <ikonia> !register | antonio_
[16:00] <pythonsnake> oizo: maybe acpi
[16:00] <jacob__> is there a way to execute .bashrc without logging out?
[16:00] <pythonsnake> yes
[16:00] <pythonsnake> source .bashrc
[16:00] <sauerbraten> what's the best place to go when you have a non-working card driver, but know which driver is used on windows? I'm talking about http://consumersupport.lenovo.com/us/en/DriversDownloads/drivers_show_4322.html
[16:00] <ikonia> jacob__:  .bashrc thats it
[16:00] <pythonsnake> !acpi | oizo
[16:00] <ikonia> jacob__: you execute it, it's just a script
[16:00] <oizo> pythonsnake: acpi how?
[16:01] <pythonsnake> ikonia: no, it's source .bashrc
[16:01] <jokinfeyman> thanks, it works :)
[16:01] <pythonsnake> I'm wrong ?
[16:01] <sauerbraten> oh. *card reader I mean
[16:01] <ikonia> pythonsnake: you can do .bashrc or . .bashrc it's the same thing
[16:01] <sauerbraten> what's the best place to go when you have a non-working card reader but know which driver is used on windows? I'm talking about http://consumersupport.lenovo.com/us/en/DriversDownloads/drivers_show_4322.html
[16:02] <ikonia> sauerbraten: there is no where to go, other than the vendor to ask them to make a compatible kernel module
[16:02] <jacob__> .bashrc results in "command not found"
[16:02] <pythonsnake> ikonia: "source ~/.bashrc"
[16:02] <pythonsnake> jacob__: "source ~/.bashrc
[16:02] <jacob__> ./.bashrc results in "Permission denied"
[16:02] <ikonia> pythonsnake: you've said that 3 times, and I understand what your saying
[16:02] <sysadamin> jacob__: ". .bashrc"
[16:02] <pythonsnake> jacob__: "source ~/.bashrc"
[16:02] <jacob__> pythonsnake, thx, *trying
[16:02] <ikonia> jacob__: . .bashrc
[16:02] <inphernal> Hi all, having some video troubles. I boot into 11.04 and am stuck in 1024x768 resolution, and the failsafeX UI. Monitor settings say "Monitor: Unknown", and I cannot set anything. The laptop used to work fine. It has a Intel Mobile 4 chipset.
[16:03] <jacob__> ikonia, pythonsnake , thx, both worked
[16:03] <pythonsnake> jacob__: you're welcome
[16:03] <ork0> "Permission denied (13)" when I transfer files over bluetooth to my android phone. What do I do?
[16:03] <jacob__> yeah, i have jdk 1.7 :)
[16:04] <jacob__> i never got these paths working before, thx a lot, cya!
[16:04] <pythonsnake> oizo: The Advanced Configuration and Power Interface
[16:05] <inphernal> Hi all, having some video troubles. I boot into 11.04 and am stuck in 1024x768 resolution, and the failsafeX UI. Monitor settings say "Monitor: Unknown", and I cannot set anything. The laptop used to work fine. It has a Intel Mobile 4 chipset.
[16:05] <pythonsnake> inphernal: stop flooding
[16:05] <pythonsnake> one time is enough
[16:06] <oizo> pythonsnake: i'lll have a look at that and get back, thanks
[16:07] <pythonsnake> oizo: np
[16:07] <SpiderFred> hi how do you call that network authenctication where you can connect to wifi but than can connect to only one site where you login and can use internet?
[16:08] <HoNgOuRu> How do I create a launcher with this command ??? "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so skype"
[16:08] <HoNgOuRu> without quotes at the terminal
[16:09] <prasenjeetp> not sure if this is the right place to ask ... any pointers about the choice between ubuntu and mint ?
[16:09] <HoNgOuRu> How do I create a launcher with this command ??? "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so skype"  without quotes
[16:09] <prasenjeetp> as a desktop for programmers
[16:09] <HoNgOuRu> what to put in the command?
[16:09] <macer1> prasenjeetp, do you like unity?
[16:09] <HoNgOuRu> I do
[16:09] <HoNgOuRu> a lot, but it needs fixes
[16:10] <prasenjeetp> macer1: am afraid i have no idea what unity is
[16:10] <pythonsnake> prasenjeetp: arch
[16:10]  * prasenjeetp goes looking
[16:10] <ork0> "Permission denied (13)" when I transfer files over bluetooth to my android phone. What do I do?
[16:10] <HoNgOuRu> How do I create a launcher with this command ??? "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so skype"  without quotes
[16:10] <pythonsnake> HoNgOuRu: stop.
[16:10] <Pici> HoNgOuRu: Please stop repeating so often.
[16:10] <ikonia> pythonsnake: please don't offer random nonsense advice
[16:10] <HoNgOuRu> ok
[16:10] <macer1> prasenjeetp: OK this is new interface of future releases of ubuntu. Mint comes with classic gnome2 desktop, and codec pack(which you can install from ubuntu repos)
[16:11] <pythonsnake> ikonia: ?
[16:11] <macer1> Mint is based on Ubuntu AFAIK
[16:11] <ikonia> pythonsnake: suggesting arch
[16:11] <bilygates> mint also has a new version which is based on debian
[16:11] <pythonsnake> why not arch ?
[16:11] <Pici> HoNgOuRu: Launchers cannot take commands with arguments, so just put your entire command into a script and you can run that script using the launchaer.
[16:11] <inphernal> Hi all, having some video troubles. I boot into 11.04 and am stuck in 1024x768 resolution, and the failsafeX UI. Monitor settings say "Monitor: Unknown", and I cannot set anything. The laptop used to work fine. It has a Intel Mobile 4 chipset.
[16:11] <ikonia> pythonsnake: that wasn't his question, please don't randomly push that to people
[16:11] <HoNgOuRu> Pici, I want to assign a key to run that command
[16:11] <HoNgOuRu> oh !
[16:12] <HoNgOuRu> I can do the script thing, yeah, thank u
[16:12] <pythonsnake> ikonia: ok
[16:12] <Pici> HoNgOuRu: Okay, so put that command into a file, set it as executable, and assign your key to run the script :)
[16:12] <bilygates> @prasenjeetp i'm a programmer and ubuntu suits me nicely, but i'm pretty sure mint would do too
[16:12] <HoNgOuRu> Pici, yeah thanks
[16:12] <prasenjeetp> macer1:  yes, mint is based on ubuntu too ... we have been using mint for over a year now but considering between ubuntu and mint now that we are planning to do fresh installs/upgrades
[16:13] <macer1> prasenjeetp, if you don't hate unity, I think it is better to install Ubuntu ;)
[16:13] <pythonsnake> prasenjeetp: Maybe Ubuntu Lucid ?
[16:13] <prasenjeetp> macer1:  hmm, let me understand the statement :-)
[16:14] <pythonsnake> macer1: ubuntu != unity
[16:14] <bilygates> you can always dump unity and install gnome3
[16:14] <bilygates> or maybe gnome2 if anyone ports it
[16:15] <pythonsnake> bilygates: or use lucid
[16:15] <bilygates> yeah, if you don't care for updates, use lucid by all means
[16:16] <ikonia> bilygates: luicd will get more updates than any other current ubuntu distro
[16:16] <pythonsnake> ikonia: "will" ?
[16:16] <ikonia> pythonsnake: yes,
[16:17] <pythonsnake> when exctly ?
[16:17] <ikonia> pythonsnake: as updates are needed
[16:17] <bilygates> well yes, it's LTS, but aren't the majority of updates only bugfixes?
[16:17] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: pythonsnake bilygates : where do i get to see more about these variations
[16:18] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: ubuntu.com
[16:18] <pythonsnake> prasenjeetp: linuxmint.com
[16:18] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: am on the site and still looking for all these unity ... lucid etc (found unity already)
[16:19] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: unity is a desktop, not a release.
[16:19] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: the ones on the website will be 10.04 and 11.04
[16:19] <Ograws> hello
[16:20] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: yeah, i think i have installed unity on ubuntu (is that the right way to say it) on some PCs
[16:20] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: unity is available by default in 11.04
[16:20] <prasenjeetp> wonder what other choices exist and where i can find them (and some comparision)
[16:20] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: it is part of the 11.04 "natty" release.
[16:20] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: yeah, that explains how i got it :-)
[16:21] <Ograws> I need help with wireless adapter usb on ubuntu 10.10
[16:21] <ApolloSmile> Will ubunto boot on another machine without issues? like drive swap
[16:22] <ikonia> ApolloSmile: depends on the hardware, mostly yes
[16:22] <ApolloSmile> ok
[16:22] <ApolloSmile> the hardware im sure is supported
[16:22] <ikonia> ApolloSmile: not quite that simple
[16:22] <ikonia> ApolloSmile: but it should mostly work and just need a few tweaks
[16:22] <ApolloSmile> probably best i do a reinstall on the machine
[16:23] <mneptok> ApolloSmile: a machine with BIOS versus a machine with EFI/UEFI will cause issues, for sure.
[16:23] <ApolloSmile> unless
[16:23] <ApolloSmile> someone can remote support me
[16:23] <ApolloSmile> in mounting my other drives and getting proper drivers
[16:23] <ikonia> ApolloSmile: you shouldn't need "drivers" unless your video card is significantly different or you have a closed source product in the new machine
[16:23] <ApolloSmile> my desktop used to run smoothly
[16:23] <dr_willis> ApolloSmile:  ive swapped hd's befor with very few issues.
[16:24] <ApolloSmile> now when i install the ati driver it slow
[16:24] <Maarten> note to self: do not put a mount --bind to some folder in /etcfstab without actually mounting the drive it needs first, or your headless server will get stuck on startup waiting to mount something.... :D
[16:25] <prasenjeetp> ok, next would be to try and find out whats the best way to install ubuntu on 60 computers, they have no DVD drives and i would prefer to install them all IDENTICAL with a few other stuff (webmin, LAMP etc)
[16:25] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: you know webmin is not supported or recommended on ubuntu yes ?
[16:26] <ApolloSmile> 60 computers omg
[16:26] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: no, i wasnt aware :-(
[16:26] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: I would look at either kickstart for a re-occuring build with changes, or an image based software such as clonezilla to just keep cloning the drives
[16:27] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: why isnt webmin supported ? any article to read ?
[16:27] <SpiderFred> hi how do you call that network authenctication where you can connect to wifi but than can connect to only one site where you login and can use internet?
[16:27] <dr_willis> !webmin | prasenjeetp
[16:27] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: it's a project filled with security issues, and the way ubuntu lays out certain config files is incompatible
[16:27] <mneptok> prasenjeetp: also, Webmin is a security nightmare.
[16:27] <prasenjeetp> ApolloSmile: yeah, we want to standardize things
[16:28] <ikonia> SpiderFred: 2 factor ?
[16:28] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: so, any other suggestions ... want people to be able to do stuff like create virtual domains, databases etc
[16:28] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: is these for peoples desktops, or for something like a web hosting business ?
[16:28] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: I'm asking as the purpose will define the tools
[16:28] <prasenjeetp> mneptok: this is within the office LAN ... does the security become a concern there too
[16:29] <mneptok> prasenjeetp: yes
[16:29] <mneptok> prasenjeetp: even more so. as someone with malicious intent already has some degree of access.
[16:29] <SpiderFred> ikonia: no I mean just one authentication through webclient to use internet
[16:29] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: its for individual desktops for programmers but they each use their computers as development servers
[16:29] <ApolloSmile> hahah ubuntu is using the easy window snap as windows 7 wonders
[16:29] <ApolloSmile> lol
[16:29] <renc> renc
[16:29] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: then they should be using tools such as mysql's database tools
[16:30] <param> hi
[16:30] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: or depending on their systems administrators to manage things like the configs
[16:30] <param> i need help[
[16:30] <mneptok> prasenjeetp: developers do not need webmin, they need sudo. and build the tools and data needed into your kickstart image (i.e. pre-add the local user accounts to the "mysql" group)
[16:30] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: sadly, most do not have any insight .. they come from windows background ... i am fighting it hard to get them all to linux
[16:31] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: the mysql tools are gui driven, so should be quite normal to them
[16:31] <mneptok> prasenjeetp: Webmin will cause you and your users headaches within a few months. if not weeks.
[16:31] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: mysql on windows is the same tools/config as mysql on linux
[16:31] <mneptok> ikonia: some are, like Workbench.
[16:31] <prasenjeetp> ok
[16:31] <ikonia> mneptok: which is the tools I suggested
[16:32] <Maarten> prasenjeetp: not to be the devil's advocate here..... but would it not be easier to keep them on Windows if they can be productive there? I know we sysadmins always want to convert people, but it isn't always in the best interest of busines.
[16:32] <prasenjeetp> any input on apache management
[16:32] <prasenjeetp> like creating virtual hosts etc
[16:32] <SavageWolf> Uh, how would I reinstall a package so it is purged and redownloaded without removing any of it's dependencies?
[16:32] <ikonia> Maarten: it's a valid point.
[16:33] <prasenjeetp> Maarten: the license costs for each desktop is huge ... we are finding it hard to handle ... also, once its streamlined, i think people get used to linux too
[16:33] <mneptok> prasenjeetp: if a DBA cares about what OS they use, they're not a very good DBA. ;) SQL syntax is SQL syntax, and any text editor can write it. it's the distance between the power-on button and getting to that comfy editor that you need to worry about.
[16:34] <SchalaZeal> I'm rather curious how my DHCP internet works automatically in Ubuntu yet when I tried Gentoo or Arch Linux it didn't.
[16:34] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: one option is to setup 4 virtual domains as part of the build you deploy and limt them to that
[16:34] <SchalaZeal> Ubuntu has no /etc/rc.conf after all
[16:34] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: I assume you mean apache domains
[16:34] <prasenjeetp> mneptok: true ... but there is always a mental block that i have to handle delicately
[16:34] <ikonia> SchalaZeal: it's controlled by gnome in network manager on the desktop
[16:34] <prasenjeetp> ikonia: thats right, apache virtualhosts
[16:34] <SchalaZeal> ah
[16:34] <SchalaZeal> thanks
[16:34] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: setup 4 as part of the default build
[16:35] <prasenjeetp> ok
[16:35] <Maarten> yeah there is the license cost, true..... but that amounts to about 3 hours of a web developer's salary, perhaps once a year if you have a MS subscription..... Just saying, as much as I love linux, (I have mixed environment here as well), it isn't always the best solution if you have a large group of windows-minded people.
[16:35] <mang0> In AWN is there a way to magnify on hover, like on mac osx dock? I've only managed to get a really really small magnification, and only the icon I'm mousing over....
[16:36] <pythonsnake> mang0: no
[16:36] <tado> hey. does someone want to save my ipod classic from flying out the window? it has given me endless trouble with ubuntu, and now doesn't mount any longer...
[16:36] <mneptok> prasenjeetp: or, identify the most Windows-entrenched staff, and get them VMs in Virtualbox under Ubuntu. let them transition gradually.
[16:37] <prasenjeetp> mneptok: Maarten they have got used to linux now ... we have been using mint for over one year now
[16:37] <prasenjeetp> just that we always had webmin (on mint)
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> mang0: docky does afaik, and cairodock may too
[16:37] <pythonsnake> prasenjeetp: just try it !
[16:37] <synackfin> how do I remove all the desktop packages to get to a minimal "ubuntu server" state? (ubuntu desktop currently installed)
[16:37] <ikonia> prasenjeetp: if your comfortable with it, use it, just be aware of the issues and risks it causes
[16:37] <pythonsnake> ActionParsnip: true
[16:37] <Maarten> hmmm... now I have this thin client, and I am re-purposing it as a small linux server, was thinking of putting a webcam on it and using it as a poor man's security system.... any software recommendations?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> synackfin: uninstall xorg and the rest will be marked for removal
[16:38] <llutz> synackfin: easier to start from 0 with minimal.iso
[16:38] <Maarten> prasenjeetp: Ah, if they are already used to linux,no prob :)
[16:38] <mneptok> Maarten: PM?
[16:38] <mang0> ActionParsnip: cairodock does do it, but It's quite cpu intense (for my machine!) Will try docky. Thanks :D
[16:38] <prasenjeetp> pythonsnake: try what ?
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> mang0: also simdock does it too (super lightweight)
[16:38] <synackfin> ActionParnsip: `apt-get purge xorg` only removes two packages: xorg and ubuntu-desktop
[16:38] <mang0> ActionParsnip: simdock sounds good, will look into it.
[16:39] <Maarten> mneptok: Googling "PM" but not getting a clear answer. Is that a abbreviation for something?
[16:39] <synackfin> ActionParsnip: I want to remove -everything- non-server related, gnome, wifi tools, etc
[16:39] <mneptok> Maarten: "may i private message?"
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> synackfin: sudo apt-get --purge remove xorg libgn*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[16:39] <Maarten> mneptok: hahaha! of course ;)
[16:40] <Maarten> sorry not awake yet, I thought you meant a software package
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> synackfin: also uninstall xserver-xorg and xserver-common
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> synackfin: I'd suggest you do this in root recovery mode so you don'tget any weirdness uninstalling an app which is running
[16:42] <hypertyper> I'm trying to incorporate a script and get an error message. I'm trying to extract a string and compare it to another. pastebin.com/AS6xwrWT
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> hypertyper: wouldn't it be:  BATTERY=`cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1`
[16:44] <llutz> hypertyper: BATSTATE=$( awk '/charging state/{ print $3 }')
[16:44]  * prasenjeetp busy trying to make sense of clonezilla mentioned by ikonia
[16:44] <hypertyper> no, that bit is working, the path is corredct
[16:45] <llutz> hypertyper: BATSTATE=$( awk '/charging state/{ print $3 }') $BATTERY/state
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> hypertyper: your if statement is a bit off too. Change it to:              if ["$BATSTATE" = "discharging"]; then
[16:45] <madalin> i have a vlan (eth1.10) which is linked to eth1. I'm trying to deny outgoing traffic. How could i do that ?
[16:46] <pythonsnake> prasenjeetp: ...
[16:46] <pythonsnake> prasenjeetp: try the distros
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> http://pastebin.com/TavjNxRP  hypertyper
[16:47] <prasenjeetp> pythonsnake: what about them ... sorry, am not sure i understood
[16:48] <madalin> i have a vlan (eth1.10) which is linked to eth1. I'm trying to deny outgoing traffic. How could i do that ?
[16:48] <pythonsnake> prasenjeetp: try them one by one and see what you like !!
[16:49] <prasenjeetp> pythonsnake: i understand now ... frankly, since we need to have something uniform for all, am just trying to get some input from you guys that are in the know already
[16:49] <mang0> How do I quit awn dock?
[16:49] <mang0> got it
[16:50] <oizo> Question: I've got a new laptop, but some special keys aren't working (vol. up/down, play-pause and stop) tried "xev" but there is no reaction to pressing the buttons ... help?
[16:50] <pythonsnake> mang0: try docky
[16:50] <antnash> HEy guys. Can anyone tell me how I can get my new wireless mini keyboard/touchpad to work? It's an Ortek PKB-1700, being mistaken for a WKB-2000
[16:50] <pythonsnake> gnome-do
[16:50] <haus1> I had an issue with Brasero not seeing my DVD/CD drives to burn a disk?   I found & installed GnomeBaker it's working perfectly, anyone ever see this ?
[16:50] <pythonsnake> oizo: ...
[16:50] <mang0> pythonsnake: I will :)
[16:50] <pythonsnake> oizo: ACPI.
[16:50] <pythonsnake> have you looked on it ?
[16:50] <pythonsnake> mang0: killall avant-window-navigator
[16:50] <llutz> hypertyper: better to use $() than backticks, and grep isn't needed if using awk:   BATSTATE=$( awk '/charging state/ { print $3 }' $BATTERY/state)
[16:51] <mang0> pythonsnake: Yeah, found the quit button though :)
[16:51] <oizo> pythonsnake: Yeah, i looked at it, but couldn't figure out what actually to do.
[16:51] <urlin2u> haus1, yes brasero should see them if you open it rather then use the prompt to burn.
[16:51] <mang0> ew simdock is horrible
[16:52] <haus1> I did that, but "baker" seemed to work fine ...
[16:53] <pythonsnake> mang0: true
[16:53] <urlin2u> haus1, I use ether for that reason, you can also go to the plugins in brasero and turn off the md5sum make
[16:53] <Zerpy> Hey guys, I don't know if this is the right channel, but I'm sitting here with ubuntu, running apache2, and want to setup ftp, so I can connect to the server, any got a tip?
[16:53] <urlin2u> either
[16:54] <hypertyper> llutz, I've tried what you posted and it just sat there and did nothing
[16:54] <designbybeck> anyone know what the setting is in Compiz to "Shade" a window... like ctrl + scroll wheel to roll up and down on the title bar?
[16:54] <hypertyper> I've new to linux so have never used awk or grep
[16:54] <llutz> hypertyper: 3rd version should do, 1st/2nd had errors, sry
[16:54] <madalin> i have a vlan (eth1.10) which is linked to eth1. I'm trying to deny outgoing traffic. How could i do that ?
[16:54] <hypertyper> kk I'll try again
[16:55] <Tracker2> join #ubuntu-es
[16:55] <Tracker2> join # ubuntu-es
[16:55] <cache_surplus> when i goto network icon on ubuntu, i get this response - Could Not Display "network:///"  now, i can access my freebsd server no problem in gnome desktop by typing in smb://x.x.x.x/shares     it mounts fine, and is displayed, so forth, but the network icon under Places doesnt show up and produces the error above and also: http://ScrnSht.com/lyjjyj
[16:56] <llutz> Tracker2: /join #ubuntu-es
[16:56] <cache_surplus> suggestions? links? howtos? thanks
[16:56] <genu> hey, I'm kind of new to tomcat. I'm trying to deply an applycation on the server, but I get a message "FAIL - Application at contacts path /[my app] could not be starated" Where can I find the logs so I can see what went wrong? can I get some help?
[16:56] <Pici> genu: #tomcat would be a better place to ask.
[16:57] <genu> @Pici I didn't nobody seems to be around... :/
[16:57] <tbruff13> can some one help me i am trying to add vinux repos to my system and now one is in the vinux channel that can help me
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> hypertyper: http://paste.ubuntu.com/694599/    just made a neat version :)
[16:58] <llutz> ActionParsnip: baaah "sudo cat /proc...."
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: do you have the ppa:   link
[16:58] <slayer> installed Ubuntu server, ran updates, now the server wont access the internet, what is strange is I can ssh in, resolvve dns but I can't get out, any ideas?
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> llutz: true
[16:58]  * o0splitpaw0o is frustrated
[16:58] <designbybeck> anyone know what the setting is in Compiz to "Shade" a window... like ctrl + scroll wheel to roll up and down on the title bar??
[16:58] <tbruff13> ActionParsnip: no that is what i need a ppa i do have one though
[16:58] <B0g4r7_> Anyone wanna help me with svn?  I can't seen to make the SVNListParentPath dirctive work.  I just receive a 403 error when I expect to see a directory listing.
[16:59] <B0g4r7_> slayer, perhaps your default route is missing or incorrect.
[16:59] <slayer> nope, i can ping my router
[16:59] <Corey> Bananoblado: 403 is a permissions error.
[16:59] <Corey> Er, that was to B0g4r7_
[16:59] <B0g4r7_> slayer, ping it from outside the local network?  What about sshing to it from outside?
[16:59] <tbruff13> ActionParsnip: http://wiki.vinuxproject.org/index.php?title=How_Do_I_Add_the_Vinux_Repositories_to_my_Ubuntu_system%3F
[17:00] <tbruff13> this page might work
[17:00] <Bananoblado> Good evening everyone!
[17:00] <pythonsnake> hi,
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:00] <Bananoblado> How are you?
[17:00] <DBordello> I am having gdm do a timedlogin to automatically login a user.  However, I can't seem to figure out how to set the default session.  Any ideas what configuration file to look in?
[17:00] <slayer> B0g4r7_:  I am accessing it from outside the network, and I can ping accros the firewall to another connected network, just no internet outside the box
[17:01] <pythonsnake> Bananoblado: We don't care. #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:01] <Bananoblado> Care of what?
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: add the line:    http://ppa.launchpad.net/vinux/vinux-lucid/ubuntu lucid main       change lucid to your release (the PPA has all the way up to Oneiric). Save the new file, close gedit then run:
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys EF2AFDCF
[17:01] <B0g4r7_> slayer, what are you testing with that says 'no internet'?
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: I literally copied and pasted 90% of that from the page YOU gave
[17:01] <B0g4r7_> like, what program?
[17:01] <IdleOne> pythonsnake: Please be a little nicer when redirecting people to other channels.
[17:02] <tbruff13> ActionParsnip: i know i tried this i did not work
[17:02] <w30> designbybeck, I can set mine by going to system preferences windows
[17:02] <slayer> B0g4r7_:   im trying to wget, apt-get, ssh anything
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: what errors do you get?
[17:02] <hypertyper> ActionParnsip: that is neat, sudo isn't needed.. however, when I try to compare the output of what you posted to a string I get the same old error message [charged command not found
[17:02] <designbybeck> Ahh, thanks w30  i'll try that out
[17:02] <pythonsnake> IdleOne: ok
[17:02] <tbruff13> ok i have to re do it to see
[17:03] <pythonsnake> Bananoblado: Hey ! This is support channel. For offtopic stuff, see #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: you need to add the word 'deb' to the start of the line, so it will look like this:   deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/vinux/vinux-lucid/ubuntu oneiric main
[17:03] <IdleOne> pythonsnake: 100% better. thank you.
[17:03] <tbruff13> oh ok
[17:03] <pythonsnake> IdleOne: no problem.
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: you should contact the maintainers of the wiki so they change that
[17:04] <GreekFreak> Hi. How can I find out what the version numbers of the kernel and mesa will be in Oneiric? I need a specific version and above, but I'd rather let ubuntu upgrade tehm for me as opposed to experimenting
[17:04] <artek90> hi
[17:04] <w30> designbybeck, I can set mine by going to system preferences windows or in a terminal gnome-window-properties
[17:04] <tbruff13> i will
[17:04] <artek90> how are you
[17:04] <Pici> GreekFreak: ask in #ubuntu+1
[17:04] <artek90> ?
[17:04] <designbybeck> ah shucks w30 ... That turns off double clicking for maximizing, i still wanted that on as well
[17:04] <tbruff13> let me try it first
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: obviously, use YOUR release name, I'm using Oneiric here
[17:05] <Pici> GreekFreak: That is the Oneiric Channel.
[17:05] <tbruff13> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/vinux/vinux-lucid/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[17:05] <mang0> pythonsnake: Have installed docky. However, it seems to be quite cpu intensive. Takes a second to appear on mouseover, and a second to dissappear too....
[17:05] <Milossh> hello, I can't connect to vpn. this is the tail from syslog
[17:05] <Milossh> NetworkManager[712]: <info> VPN service 'openvpn' disappeared
[17:05] <tbruff13> i gotta go
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: does the PPA support 64bit too?
[17:05] <GreekFreak> Pici: thank you
[17:05] <tbruff13> i figured it out
[17:06] <llutz> hypertyper:what about?: grep Discharging /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state || echo "on mains"
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> actually, there is no natty folder http://ppa.launchpad.net/vinux/vinux-lucid/ubuntu/dists/ HA
[17:06] <hypertyper> llutz, I can echo the state correctly but I'm trying to write a script which checks the status then makes decisions based on it
[17:06] <pythonsnake> mang0: your cpu is slow !
[17:06] <pythonsnake> Can we have GNOME 2 in Oneiric ?
[17:06] <syrinx_priest> Hi all... trying to change the boot order of grub in 11.04.  I've tried both Startup Manager and manually editing the grub file under etc, no luck.
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> pythonsnake: thats fine, ubuntu doesn't need mega speed to run well
[17:07] <syrinx_priest> Not boot order... I'm trying to change which OS boots by default
[17:07] <mang0> pythonsnake: Indeed, my cpu is retarded...I really REALLY Need a new computer but I've not got any money :/
[17:07] <pythonsnake> ActionParsnip: it's docky, not ubuntu
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> pythonsnake: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Oneiric chat and support
[17:07] <syrinx_priest> Anyone had any luck with this?
[17:07] <Zerpy> Nooooes.. "dk.archive.ubuntu.com" is down so can't install using apt-get install :S
[17:07] <pythonsnake> Zerpy: change repo
[17:07] <Zerpy> How I do that? :P
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> pythonsnake: it still releates to Oneiric though, right?
[17:08] <pythonsnake> ActionParsnip: no?
[17:08] <pythonsnake> ActionParsnip: mang0 told me docky is slow for him
[17:08] <blsh0p> ok google chrome an inch of the bottom screen is cut off
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> (18:06:52) pythonsnake: Can we have GNOME 2 in Oneiric ?     Is this not what you were asking, or is this a new question
[17:08] <deke111> Hi all - running 10.04 - kernel has been updated many times, wondering if its OK to delete previous kernels in /boot directory and edit them out of grub.
[17:08] <blsh0p> even if i maximize the page how to i fix that cut off?
[17:08] <GreekFreak> How safe is it to upgrade your linux kernel?
[17:09] <Zerpy> pythonsnake: I found it :D ty
[17:09] <mang0> pythonsnake: Indeed it is.... :/
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> deke111: use ubuntu-tweak to delete old kernels
[17:09] <pythonsnake> ActionParsnip: asking
[17:09] <unk> hey can anyone tell me how to check HOW MANY MEMBERS are in a channel??
[17:09] <hot2trot> what is a good virtualization software to run windows? NOT wine
[17:09] <mang0> 1594 unk
[17:09] <pythonsnake> GreekFreak: 100 % safe and 100% unsafe
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> unk: type /n
[17:09] <hypertyper> ok so the problem is that I don't know how to compare the string in a variable to another string... I'll google some more...
[17:09] <pythonsnake> unk: ...
[17:09] <pythonsnake> unk: it's not related to ubuntu
[17:10] <pythonsnake> ask in #{irc server/client|
[17:10] <Milossh> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1334268
[17:10] <GreekFreak> pythonsnake: lol. basically I want to know if it will cause me problems with Ubuntu updates
[17:10] <unk> pythonsnake: i have to ask somewhere then tell me where should i go
[17:10] <deke111> thanks MonkeyDust - I'll try that.
[17:10] <urlin2u> deke111, I use ubuntu tweak to remove kernels or synaptic, grub2 will just need a sudo upfate-grub
[17:10] <urlin2u> uodate-grub
[17:10] <urlin2u> update-grub
[17:10] <w30> deke111, do it with synaptic and then Ubuntu will edit grub for you, just find the kernel numbers you don't use after search kernel
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> hot2trot: virtualbox or vmware or qemu maybe, you'll need a windows license and install media, there is also cedega and crossover office which run like wine but are paid for
[17:11] <pythonsnake> unk: /help
[17:11] <pythonsnake> GreekFreak: safe
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> unk: I'm a member :)
[17:11] <pythonsnake> hmm ?
[17:11] <pythonsnake> why the floodbot opping
[17:11] <hot2trot> ActionParsnip: thank you
[17:12] <GreekFreak> pythonsnake: awesome. It will update again correctly then, if it sees I need a higher kernel version? (Sorry, I'm new to Ubunut(
[17:13] <pythonsnake> GreekFreak: add linux kernel to ignore list ?
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> deke111: if you run:  uname -a  you can see the CURRENT kernel, if you run:   dpkg -l | egrep 'linux-image--2|linux-image-3'     you can see the INSTALLED kernels. You can use software centre to uninstall the INSTALLED kernels but do NOT remove the RUNNING kernel. You don't need some 3rd party nonesense
[17:13] <pythonsnake> you can have multiple kernel
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> deke111: this will get you ~120Mb per kernel in space and Grub will be cleared up for you
[17:14] <GreekFreak> pythonsnake: you answered inadvertedly ;) I don't want to ignore the updates, but I don't want it to downgrade it either.
[17:14] <pythonsnake> GreekFreak: maybe a ppa, dunno
[17:14] <urlin2u> ActionParsnip, You don't need some 3rd party nonesense  lol dude
[17:16] <GreekFreak> pythonsnake: thanks for your help.
[17:16] <ikonia> GreekFreak: updating your kernel is not safe
[17:17] <ikonia> GreekFreak: it is very very strongly not advised
[17:17] <deke111> ActionParsnip: thanks - I have 12 uninstalled kernels - guess I have some houscleaning to do.
[17:17] <pythonsnake> ikonia: o.O
[17:17] <urlin2u> ActionParsnip, your command brought up no kernels here as well.
[17:18] <Pici> GreekFreak, ikonia: Unless its via updates that come in through the repositories.
[17:18] <GreekFreak> ikonia, pici: I'll wait for the updates then. I was looking to do it manually for some graphics card drivers
[17:18] <ikonia> Pici: correct, which as the update GreekFreak wants is from a later distro, not safe
[17:20] <adi11> hi all. i need help with a freezing hp pavillion dv 6700 after fresh install of 11.04. right after choosing ubuntu on grub page all i see is the purple screen. forced to ctrl+alt+del.
[17:20] <urlin2u> dpkg -l | egrep 'linux-image--2|linux-image-2' it was lucis ActionParsnip
[17:20] <urlin2u> lucid*
[17:20] <madalin> can dhcp lease an ip FOREVER ?
[17:21] <teenboy> reinstall
[17:21] <adi11> anyone can help with this issue? this laptop have a nvidia card,amd cpu and i am on 2.6.38.11
[17:22] <Polah> How can I set up my system to automatically sync one or more directories on a USB drive with directories on my hard drive?
[17:22] <ikonia> Polah: a chap the other day used a very nice rsync script as a udev event trigger
[17:22] <teenboy> Use alternate distr
[17:22] <ikonia> Polah: so when his hard disk was plugged in, the udev event triggered a sync, it was a nice solution
[17:23] <Polah> ikonia: I thought I could use rsync but I've never used it so I don't know it's capabilities. I guess I'll have a look around for how to do it
[17:25] <hypertyper> ActionParsnip, llutz: what I was doing wrong was the string comparison... wrong brackets and whitespacing. I've got a working version now: paste.ubuntu.com/694619
[17:25] <hypertyper> that was harder than it should have been..
[17:28] <Polah> ikonia: Alright, I found an application named unison which uses rsync to sync files. How can I set a script up to run when the drive is plugged into my system?
[17:28] <i0x71> hey, im trying to authenticate against AD with ldap, can someone point me in the right way
[17:28] <llutz> hypertyper: finally ... :D
[17:29] <llutz> Polah: use an udev-rule
[17:29] <ikonia> Polah: why do you need an application, why not just use rsync ?
[17:29] <Putr> hi! I just got a ubuntu vps. Is there a good app that would help me track memory/cpu usage (and possibly other statistics). Possibly with a web interface?
[17:30] <Polah> ikonia: I could, but I figure I'll see how it goes with this first
[17:30] <ohuanca> holas
[17:30] <ohuanca> hello world
[17:30] <llutz> Polah: take this as an example http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=989780
[17:30] <ikonia> Polah: why add a layer of complexity.
[17:30] <cormyn> Putr, you could try something like nagios for monitoring
[17:30] <ikonia> Polah: why add a script that calls an application that calls rsync, when you can just call rsync
[17:31] <Putr> cormyn: thanks, i'll check that
[17:31] <Pici> Putr: munin is nice if you like graphs.
[17:31] <Corollax> I've been having upstream internet problems, but network manager doesn't tell me when I get disconnected from the external network (I can still reach the LAN). How do I fix this?
[17:31] <Putr> Pici: i like graphs :)
[17:31] <cormyn> Putr: no problem
[17:31] <Putr> is nagios in the repo and free?
[17:32] <cormyn> quick question: anyone know of an easy way to detect if a laptop has an extra monitor plugged in on boot to toggle between which xorg.conf file to load for single screen vs dual screen mode?
[17:32] <lovre> im connected to LAN with other computers that use Windows, but when i go to network/samba, i dont see any of them, i just get the message: Unable to find any workgroups in your local network. This might be caused by an enabled firewall. But i dont know of any firewall installed. Any idea?
[17:32] <cormyn> Putr: yes, it's totally free and nagios3 should be in apt
[17:32] <cormyn> Putr: you can also write your own plugins for things to monitor, their documentation is very good
[17:33] <Putr> cormyn: so nagios is a service with a web frontend?
[17:33] <Corollax> I've been having upstream internet problems, but network manager doesn't tell me when I get disconnected from the external network (I can still reach the LAN). How do I fix this?
[17:33] <Putr> or how is the gui done=
[17:33] <jasonm_> Putr: yes, web front end for nagios
[17:34] <Putr> awsome. Let me get that installed :)
[17:34] <Putr> and last thing. How do i change the language of the server from the command line? I have a german server that's in german.  I can do most things .. but it annoying
[17:34] <ab847> Hi. I am running 11.04 with an Intel Mobile 4 chipset, and cannot change my resolution or boot with Unity. Monitors window says "Monitor: unknown" and no setting can be changed
[17:34] <jasonm_> Nagios is extremely configurable and a powerful monitoring tool
[17:35] <cormyn> Putr: Nagios is Perl-based, but it's pretty easy to install and maintain. I recommend a tool like "nconf" to configure nagios though, as manually tweaking the configuration can be tricky
[17:35] <majdekalel> helllllllllo
[17:35] <cormyn> Putr: not sure if nconf is in the main apt repo, but it uses php/mysql to manage your hosts, services, etc., and is WAY more intuitive for setting up Nagios: http://www.nconf.org/dokuwiki/doku.php
[17:35] <Putr> corymn: never heard of nconf b4. What does it do?
[17:36] <cache_surplus> cormyn: install yes, configure no
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> ab847: are you fully updated?
[17:36] <cpglsn> hi everybody
[17:36] <Corollax> I've been having upstream internet problems, but network manager doesn't tell me when I get disconnected from the external network (I can still reach the LAN). How do I fix this?
[17:36] <majdekalel> how can i configure cgi-bin folder in ubuntu ??? im using apache2 ??????
[17:36] <cormyn> cache_surplus: yes, that's why I said it's easy to install and maintain, not configure :o)
[17:37] <cpglsn> can you please help me ? i'm trying to add 1 line with sudoers:     prof ALL=NOPASSWD:/sbin/shutdown -h now       but visudo continue to tell me there's an error ... do you see it ?
[17:37] <cache_surplus> cormyn: sounded like it was easy in totality lol
[17:37] <ikonia> cpglsn: get rid of -h now
[17:37] <cache_surplus> im actually working on an acidbase today
[17:37] <cpglsn> prof exist and is a parte of admin group
[17:37] <cache_surplus> and nagios3
[17:37] <cache_surplus> box
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> cpglsn: I believe you only add the command, you don't add the switched
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> *switches
[17:38] <Putr> cormyn: well it requested a password :)
[17:38] <ikonia> cpglsn: the admin group doesn't matter, as your calling you by name
[17:38] <cormyn> cache_surplus: I've been using nagios since back in 2000/2001 when it was called netsaint, believe me, I know it's a PITA to configure, heheh
[17:38] <cache_surplus> yep me too
[17:38] <cache_surplus> agrees
[17:38] <kasi> I've an additional drive in my computer. Is there a gui tool for partitioning the drive, or do I have to use fdisk?
[17:38] <cache_surplus> thats why we get paid the big bucks ;)
[17:38] <ab847> ActionParnip: Yes
[17:38] <cormyn> Putr: read the docs for nagios, it'll tell you all of that stuff
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> kasi: gparted
[17:38] <cpglsn> prof ALL=NOPASSWD:/sbin/shutdown    same problem
[17:38] <synackfin> how do I make ubuntu text-based? (instead of bringing up X11/gdm)
[17:38] <ab847> ActionParsnip: Yes
[17:38] <kasi> ActionParsnip, thanks
[17:39] <cormyn> cache_surplus: amen to that ;o)
[17:39] <cpglsn> ActionParsnip: switched ?
[17:39] <cache_surplus> wow i havent heard that term in a long time, NetSaint...
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> cpglsn: note the correction on the next line
[17:39] <Putr> cormyn what about cacti ... any easyer?
[17:39] <cache_surplus> or Satan for that matter
[17:39] <ikonia> cpglsn: delete the line and exit visudo - make sure it's not erroring without that line
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> ab847: I suggest you read:  gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:39] <cormyn> Putr: I haven't used cacti, but as I understand it, cacti does more graphing based on what tools like nagios find for you
[17:40] <cache_surplus> cacti is nice, so is cricket
[17:40] <cpglsn> ikonia: did it, but when i put it again the error stay
[17:40] <cormyn> cache_surplus: Satan was the original author/maintainer, that's why it's a #$*& to configure
[17:40] <cache_surplus> all the same to me, they monitor and nag you about your services/box is down
[17:40] <cache_surplus> i have a copy of it somewhere on my tar box
[17:40] <cpglsn> ActionParsnip: sorry, but i still don't understand "you don't add the switches"
[17:40] <ikonia> cpglsn: but when you exit without that line, it saves correctly ?
[17:40] <cpglsn> ikonia: yes
[17:40] <cache_surplus> i still use the perl script to view snort logs with
[17:40] <ikonia> cpglsn: are you using spaces or tabs ?
[17:41] <cpglsn> ikonia: spaces
[17:41] <ikonia> cpglsn: it's a tab
[17:41] <cpglsn> ikonia: between line elements ?
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> cpglsn: you are adding the ability for a command to not need password in sudo, the command is the binary 'shutdown'  the switches ar '-h now'  which you do not need to add in the sudoers file
[17:41] <ab847> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/wW8Fur2k
[17:41] <ikonia> cpglsn: correct
[17:41] <ikonia> cpglsn: (not sure it makes a difference, but all my rules have tabs)
[17:41] <cpglsn> ActionParsnip: oh ok, thanks
[17:42] <cpglsn> ikonia: now i try
[17:42] <kasi> Ubuntu is installed on sdb, but the computer tries to boot from sda. How can I install grub on sda to then boot sdb? I can boot by going into the bios boot selector each time and then select the second drive.
[17:42] <cpglsn> ikonia: same error
[17:42] <ikonia> cpglsn: I've just tested it on my machine and it works fine
[17:43] <cpglsn> the problem is that, the same line in different positions sometimes change the result (error or not)
[17:43] <cpglsn> this is strange
[17:43] <ikonia> oco2: testuser        ALL=NOPASSWD:/sbin/shutdown -h now
[17:43] <ikonia> oops
[17:43] <ikonia> cpglsn: testuser        ALL=NOPASSWD:/sbin/shutdown -h now
[17:44] <ikonia> that just worked fine for me
[17:44] <Polah> I'm look at the rsync man page and there's the -u option for update, but it also lists -append, --inplace and --append-verify, are all of these options used with -u or are they similar options which I would have to specify separately?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> ab847: open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory    maybe a thing
[17:44] <cpglsn> ikonia: now i but at the biginning of the file, but it ask for a password
[17:45] <ab847> ActionParsnip: What can I do about that?
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> cpglsn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers   actually shows how you can add this...
[17:45] <ikonia> Polah: the man page explains the differences
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> ab847: use the web to find out
[17:46] <ikonia> cpglsn: can't explain that, I've just moved mine to the top of the file and it's fine
[17:46] <cpglsn> ActionParsnip: you roks !
[17:46] <Polah> ikonia: yes, but they're all listed under -u, there's -u update then just beneath that --append and so on with no shorter version. Is -u only short for --update, or --update --inplace --append --append-verify?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> cpglsn: suprised you didn't check that first
[17:46] <ikonia> Polah: -u is only short for update
[17:46] <cpglsn> ikonia: ActionParsnip the problem was that, installing joe, it autoset itself as default editor, and, as i can see, joe is not good with sudoers
[17:46] <ikonia> Polah: also be aware of #rsync
[17:46] <Polah> ikonia: Alright thanks
[17:49] <th0r> cpglsn: you have to use visudo to edit the sudoers file
[17:49] <cpglsn> th0r: i know =)
[17:49] <o0splitpaw0o> !Virtualbox
[17:49] <cpglsn> ikonia: ActionParsnip now everything works well. Thanks a lot for help
[17:51] <ab847> ActionParsnip: I found a recommendation to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, which doesn't seem to do anything, and --reinstall xserver-xorg which says "Invalid operation xserver-xorg". I have done both of these before though, and neither did anything to help. Can you think of anything else to try?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> cpglsn: np bro
[17:51] <cpglsn> =)
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> ab847: you may need an xorg.conf file to specify the driver if udev is not doing its job.
[17:53] <ab847> ActionParsnip: I've generated one, and tried filling it in, but it doesn't seem to have any effect. The result seems to be the same with the xorg.conf or without
[17:53] <pk___> i dont have proxy in my .bashrc , i removed my /etc/environment...but still when i open a new terminal the $http_proxy is set
[17:54] <pk___> please help me i want to get rid of this proxy
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> pk___: did you set it in the GUI app?
[17:56] <pk___> ActionParsnip: yeah
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> ab847: search the web, you'll find sample files, if your system has a make and model, try searching for that in conjustion with xorg.conf
[17:56] <t-minus> test
[17:56] <mbeierl> does anyone else have significant display issues when running under unity?  For example, vmware player keeps "tearing
[17:56] <pk___> ActionParsnip: but i dont have access to gui right now
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> pk___: do you have SSH access?
[17:56] <mbeierl> tearing itself off its window border and attempting to display its contents elsewhere
[17:56] <pk___> ActionParsnip: yeah
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> pk___: connect with:  ssh -X -C username@host    then you can run the command which launches the app and it will appear on your client X server (I assume the client is Linux based with running x server)
[17:58] <pk___> ActionParsnip: why do we want to launch this gui?
[17:59] <nullp0inter> sed -i 's@dbname='abox1029@dbname='rgonet@g' *.php I am using this sed to replace the strings, but it is not switching the strings. What could be the problem? i am verifying this by doing 'grep dbname| grep abox'
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> pk___: so you can undo the setting as you set the proxy in the GUI, the setting may be stored in gconf someplace or another place. Its a simple case of undoing what was done
[18:00] <Guest12849> i have 64-bit ubuntu and i made bash script that goes other directory, but when the script ends im still at my root home folder and not under home subdirectory
[18:00] <pk___> ActionParsnip: ohh you mean this app will run on my computer with this comamnd?
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> pk___: yes, you will be using X forwarding
[18:01] <Pici> nullp0inter: Your quoting characters are probably messing things up.  You may need to escape the ones inside your sed expression.
[18:02] <nullp0inter> Pici, i tried using \ to escape them but the switch still doesnt happen
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: never had an issue with unity
[18:02] <Pici> nullp0inter: Try replacing the outer quotes with doublequotes.
[18:02] <nullp0inter> pici tried that already as well
[18:02] <nullp0inter> Pici, no go
[18:02] <Pici> nullp0inter: let me try something here.. one moment
[18:03] <ab847> ActionParsnip: Looking around a bit more; someone has the same problem but in OpenSUSE and he said he fixed it by recreating /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-device.conf. I do not have /xorg.conf.d/, is this different in Ubuntu or do I have to create this?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> Guest12849: so the script has a line like:   cd ~/Downloads    and when it ends, you aren't in that folder
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> ab847: create it, see what happens
[18:03] <Guest12849> ActionParsnip,  YES! why? always it has work but not anymore :/
[18:04] <Pici> nullp0inter: sed -i "s@dbname='abox1029@dbname='rgonet@g" works for me.
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Guest12849: let me test
[18:04] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: unfortunately, this is becoming unusable.  I've tried with both radeon and ati proprietary fglrx (which makes things even worse) and no luck
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: tried with ubuntu classic?
[18:05] <nullp0inter> Pici, that worked for me...but how is that different from what i had?
[18:05] <Guest12849> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/694650/
[18:05] <nullp0inter> pici i see the diff, i didnt try double quote non escaped single quotes
[18:06] <fatek> k/
[18:06] <ab847> ActionParsnip: What is the command? I tried gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-device.conf which worked to make xorg.conf but isn't allowing it now
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Guest12849: yeah same, not sure why. I'd ask in #bash. Maybe the change dir only exists in the scope of the script
[18:07] <Guest12849> ActionParsnip, i have made script where is 93 line of code. it has worked before but after this "bug" it hasnt worked :/
[18:08] <Guest12849> ActionParsnip, hmm anyway now it doesnt work and it has been working earlier
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Guest12849: i'd ask in #bash
[18:08] <Guest12849> ActionParsnip,  good :)
[18:08] <sobersabre> hi.
[18:09] <sobersabre> I've changed my partition table a bit too much. need help to run the laptop from a CD.
[18:09] <petar> how do i get openoffice back on ubuntu 10.10?
[18:09] <Guest12849> ab847,  if you are at terminal use sudo and if you are at GUI use gksu :)
[18:09] <sobersabre> got the CDs of: ubuntu 11.04[amd64] and gparted live CD[i386]
[18:10] <sobersabre> tried booting, neither started, - the laptop tried to boot from the hdd, with grub rescue> prompt.
[18:10] <petar> how do i get openoffice back on ubuntu 11.04? (sorry, wrong version)
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> sobersabre: what video chip do you use?
[18:11] <h00k> petar: LibreOffice is the updated version of OpenOffice you will find in 11.04.
[18:11] <ab847> Guest12849: Still says the same thing. I try to save, says file cannot be found
[18:11] <h00k> petar: LibreOffice is more up-to-date and compatable with other formats
[18:11] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: not recently.  New linux install and haven't gone back to classic yet...  might have to
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> sobersabre: gparted is on the ubuntu liveCD, so you don't need gparted liveCD
[18:12] <petar> h00k, i need openoffice for a somewhat complicated reason..
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> h00k: its a fork, not an update
[18:13] <Guest12849> ab847,  use terminal/console
[18:13] <Maarten> probably old news but..... say you only have that old 128 Mb USB flash drive available, your CD drive just broke down, and you really want to install ubuntu..... Use this: http://netbootcd.tuxfamily.org/ - a ISO file of 10 Mb that can be extracted to a USB drive as well, will connect to ethernet (wired only), and then download the distro and version of your choice, and start installing it. Really neat :) - just thought I would share, I used it to
[18:13] <Maarten> put Ubuntu on a beefed up thin client. :)
[18:13] <h00k> ActionParsnip: it's a fork that received updates quicker than OpenOffice (it was forlorn at the time), yeah.
[18:13] <Guest12849> ab847, and sudo command
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> h00k: quicker updates doesn't mean its an update
[18:14] <Lithos84> petar: You can install OpenOffice.org in 11.04.
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> petar: you can go to the openoffice site and grab the debs for openoffice, uninstall libreoffice and install the debs, it will not be updated in the normal way as Canonical's repos do not have the openoffice packages
[18:14] <Sk|p> hi guys.. i was wondering if anyone was successfully enabled voice/video calls on pidgin .. im running ubuntu natty..
[18:15] <Lithos84> petar: OpenOffice.org is available on the repositories.
[18:15] <ab847> Guest12849: Did that, same problem. I will BRB
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> so it is
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> !info openoffice.org-gtk
[18:16] <Sk|p> been searching around but no success.. everything has been installed and plug-in was enabled but still the options are grayed out.. tnx in advance..
[18:17] <petar> well that one depends on libreoffice-gtk..
[18:17] <petar> thanks anyway, i'll re-check if the defaults really are a problem..
[18:18] <RenatoSilva> petar: welcome to the openoffice.org+libreoffice+broffice spaghetti  :)
[18:18] <glebihan> ActionParsnip, it's only a transitionnal package used for upgrades (to switch from openoffice to libreoffice)
[18:18] <ab847> Deleted /etc/X11/xorg.conf and xorg.conf.failsafe cause I read those would override other setting and rebooted but that didn't help.
[18:18] <RenatoSilva> petar: missed your question but why not use libreoffice
[18:19] <Guest12849> ab847,  cat /etc/issue
[18:19] <ab847> Guest12849: Ubuntu 11.04 \n \l
[18:19] <RenatoSilva> how to map keys of my awesome MS keyboard to launch applications? example: the message key launching pidgin
[18:19] <Guest12849> ab847,  hmm you should even have those files....
[18:20] <petar> RenatoSilva: our libreoffice users experienced some issues with files on smb shares.. locking issues.. NT_STATUS_FILE_LOCK_CONFLICT.. and it seems like the folks at openoffice.org know about it and were able to release a fix..
[18:20] <mordof> lostson: you around?
[18:20] <ab847> Guest12849: xorg.conf I made myself, following instructions I've found online which suggested it, the .failsafe has been there
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> glebihan: I see, I don't use it.I use Abiword + Gnumeric as I don't use the other apps so I save a tonne of space :)
[18:21] <Guest12849> ab847,  what is your original problem?
[18:21] <fatek> #ubuntu
[18:21] <glebihan> ActionParsnip, so do I ;)
[18:21] <subone> how do i symlink more than one file at a time? like ln -s somefile.* -t somepath
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> subone: you'd need a small bash loop command
[18:22] <subone> i thought i might
[18:22] <Hamled> I don't suppose it would be possible for me to see the list of installed packages on my machine sorted by install/update date?
[18:23] <RenatoSilva> Sk|p: from #pidgin's topic: "Voice/Video (VV) on XMPP only (not on Windows)"
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Hamled: read through /var/log/dpkg.log
[18:23] <hagus> Is this the channel to ask how to remove postgresql.
[18:23] <Hamled> thanks, will check that out
[18:24] <ab847> Guest12849: I'm using 11.04 on a Toshiba C655 with an Intel Mobile 4 chipset. I had problems being able to boot only into failsafeX mode, but created the xorg.conf file and have been able ot boot normally since, whether I have the file or not. However, I am stuck at 1024x768 resolution, and the Monitors screen says "Monitor: Unknown" and does not allow me to change anything. Also, this normal boot does not use Unity as it did at first
[18:24] <ab847> fine, minus Unity
[18:24] <hagus> I installed postgresql on ubuntu but when I came to sudo apt-get remove postgresql - it told me that there was a file missing and stopped  :(
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> ab847: have you tried the Oneiric liveCD to test if that is ok?
[18:25] <nieros> resolution is usually a driver issue more than it it an OS config, but if it's not calling the video drivers...
[18:25] <hagus> Basically, I want to know in general terms how to go about removing a package/programme that has become corrupted?
[18:26] <Guest12849> ab847,  damn :/ write  lspci| grep VGA' to terminal
[18:26] <hagus> Is there a way of deleting postgresql from my ubuntu?
[18:26] <ab847> ActionParsnip: No I have not. I have a really slow connection at home, but I can download it at school and try
[18:26] <Guest12849> ab847,   lspci| grep VGA
[18:26] <synackfin> how to I make ubuntu text-based? (don't start up splash screen, don't run X, don't run gdm)
[18:26] <glebihan> hagus, there isn't really a general rule on how to do that, it depends on what the error is. Could you pastebin the error message ?
[18:27] <llutz> !nox | synackfin
[18:27] <ab847> Guest12849: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[18:27] <Error404NotFound> 'cp -rf dir1 dir2' copies dir1 as dir2, if we run second time it would put dir1 under dir2 but i want dir1 to always replace dir2
[18:27] <subone> thanks ActionParsnip
[18:27] <hagus> ok, glebihan.
[18:27] <Guest12849> damn i have to leave now i will come back with tsaknorris name
[18:27] <Guest12849> bb
[18:28] <KomiaPoika> hi
[18:28] <ab847> I've been suggested to just go back to 10.10, but was hoping I could find a solution to keep 11.04
[18:28] <KomiaPoika> how do you display physical RAM info in ubuntu? (without the hd swap space)
[18:29] <ikonia> KomiaPoika: free
[18:29] <KomiaPoika> ikonia: so if free says i have 2959652 total Mem means I have 3GB of physical ram?
[18:30] <hagus> glebihan: http://www.pastie.org/2569804
[18:30] <ikonia> KomiaPoika: pretty much yes
[18:30] <ikonia> KomiaPoika: (didn't the maths outside of my head, but that looks right)
[18:31] <glebihan> hagus, you're not using the right command
[18:31] <hagus> I tried remove, I tried purge and I tried autoremove
[18:31] <glebihan> hagus, it should be "sudo apt-get remove postgresql" (or "sudo apt-get remove --auto-remove postgresql" if you want to also remove packages that are no longer needed)
[18:32] <hagus> auto-remove rather than autoremove?
[18:32] <hagus> m
[18:32]  * hagus goes and tries it
[18:32] <glebihan> hagus, if you already tried remove it won't wrok
[18:33] <glebihan> hagus, try "sudo apt-get install -f" first
[18:33] <hagus> OK
[18:33] <McFly___80> I instaled pure-ftpd and I need to set some startup options for the deamon. Where can I find posible configuration options? I'm used to a conf file in gentoo, but on ubunto I need to make files for each directive in /etc/pure-ftpd/conf/
[18:33] <ikonia> McFly___80: the proftp site details the options available
[18:34] <ubun> hey guys... plaease help i deleted somthing on my machine and now it wont boot up. last thing i did was removed some things i thought were the video driver, but apparantly it was important. how can i fix it.
[18:34] <McFly___80> ikonia: It's pureftp, and it does not state what to call the files exactly. I'm just guessing right now
[18:35] <mordof> ubun: what does it tell you when it can't boot up?
[18:35] <ikonia> McFly___80: sorry, I miss-read, what do you mean "call the files"
[18:35] <hagus> Tried but it still gives me the same kind of error messages, glebihan.
[18:35] <Pici> McFly___80: It doesn't matter what they're called, they're just separated like that to make it easy to manage.
[18:35] <McFly___80> ikonia: What o name the files
[18:35] <llutz> McFly___80: doesn't it have an /etc/default/pureftp file to change
[18:35] <setiamon> Ok
[18:35] <setiamon> I have a issue
[18:35] <setiamon> i installed ubuntu
[18:35] <ikonia> McFly___80: how did you install it ?
[18:35] <Cube``> hey guys, i'm looking for a tablet where you can actually write/draw on, aka pressure sensitivity and such. it should be small (10-13'') and have a decent battery life (5h+). price doesnt matter. is there anything like that? the biggest problem is finding something that has a real TABLET screen, not a fake 'omigod i can use my finger to move the cursor!!!11' PR stunt
[18:35] <glebihan> hagus, ok then try "sudo apt-get remove postgresql-common postgresql-8.4 postgresql"
[18:36] <ubun> mordof: nothing it just sits there with a black screen only says something when i restart it. (normal shutdown text)
[18:36] <McFly___80> Pici: they need to be named the directive names and contain "yse" "no" etc
[18:36] <Pici> ikonia, llutz: Hes talking about things like /etc/pure-ftpd/conf/NoAnonymous and /etc/pure-ftpd/conf/UnixAuthentication
[18:36] <ikonia> Cube``: that's n othing to do with this channel, try ##hardware
[18:36] <setiamon> but when booting it says "no videomode active" every time.I foundout i had to hit alt-f7 (just randomly recalling from years ago when i used linux) and then i get the login screen etc.anyone know how to fix this?
[18:36] <Cube``> ikonia: and it's supposed to run ubuntu, of course.
[18:36] <McFly___80> ikonia: apt-get
[18:36] <mordof> ubun: have you tried alt+f1 to drop to TTY?
[18:36] <hagus> that worked, glebihan
[18:36] <ikonia> Cube``: again, nothing to do with ubuntu, find the hardware on the hardware compatabilty list,
[18:36] <llutz> Pici:sry i just read  " ..add startup options for the deamon..."
[18:37] <McFly___80> Pici: yes, exactly, where can I find possible values
[18:37] <glebihan> hagus, nice :)
[18:37] <ubun> mordof: ok that went to the tty. but now what?
[18:37] <ubun> install gnome?
[18:37] <mordof> ubun: try typing startx
[18:37] <mordof> and see what happens
[18:37] <hagus> Have now removed the rest of it.  THANKS glebihan :)
[18:37] <ubun> ok
[18:37] <glebihan> hagus, you're welcome
[18:38] <McFly___80> Pici ikonia: I need to have the -j option on, but I can find out what to name the file to make it work
[18:38] <ikonia> McFly___80: that's passed in the master config file, or the init script
[18:38] <llutz> McFly___80: vim /etc/default/pure-ftpd-common
[18:39] <McFly___80> ikonia: there is no master conf file
[18:39] <ubun> mordof: it says welcome to ubuntu 11.04. then the warnings
[18:39] <mordof> ubun: what warnings?
[18:39] <ikonia> McFly___80: there should be,
[18:39] <McFly___80> ikonia: no, the directives are split up in directive files
[18:39] <setiamon> hey
[18:39] <setiamon> is there a way i can switch back to Gnome Classic
[18:39] <ubun> mordof: the warranty stuff. this comes withi no WARANTY or whatever
[18:40] <setiamon> I think this new "unity" launcher kinda sucks frankly
[18:40] <setiamon> I can't navigate it well.doesn't display good with dual monitors
[18:40] <mordof> :\
[18:40] <setiamon> Anyone able to help me out
[18:40] <ikonia> McFly___80: I don't have a box to show you the exact file on, what are the files listed in /etc/pureftp
[18:40] <mordof> ubun: did it not give you any error at all when trying to use startx?
[18:40] <Pici> McFly___80: Take a look at the manpage for pure-ftpd-wrapper, that lists all the strings.
[18:40] <synackfin> obottu: thanks, I'll try that
[18:41] <ubun> mordof: no but let me double check
[18:41] <ikonia> Pici: is it launched through a wrapper on ubuntu
[18:41] <ubun> mordof: wait.
[18:41] <h00k> !classic | setiamon
[18:41] <glebihan> !classic | setiamon
[18:41] <McFly___80> Pici: Thanks! Strange place to hide them though
[18:41] <Pici> ikonia: I'd assume so.
[18:42] <Pici> McFly___80: I agree, it is weird.
[18:42] <McFly___80> ikonia: solved
[18:42] <setiamon> Thanks ubottu.Is it my imagination or does Unity suck?
[18:42] <ikonia> McFly___80: so I see
[18:42] <ubun> mordof: it says usr/bin/x: not found then it gives up
[18:42] <mordof> setiamon: keep in mind that 11.10 is due to remove classic
[18:42] <mordof> setiamon: and it'll be replaced with Unity 2D
[18:43] <coleix> Hey guys, im getting a message when booting. Something about cripsawp/mapper press s to omit or m to manually recover, or something arounds those lines
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> setiamon: Unity is controversial, let's keep it to that
[18:43] <synackfin> obottu: btw, the link you provided doesn't work:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode
[18:44] <pythonsnake> synackfin: .....
[18:44] <Pici> !bot | synackfin
[18:44] <edgar> anybody write spanish there , tanks for advanced
[18:44] <mordof> ubun: ok. that's a starting point.. I don't really know how to help - but that will improve your odds for getting help in here if you include that error in your question
[18:44] <pythonsnake> synackfin: ubottu is a bot
[18:44] <Pici> !es | edgar
[18:44] <setiamon> Mordff:hmm well i just find nothing but graphical problems with my nvidia.
[18:44] <setiamon> BRB rebooting
[18:44] <rhizmoe> how can i prevent firefox from requiring a reboot when it hangs?
[18:45] <edgar> gracias puedo escribir en ingles pero me resulta mas rapido en español
[18:45] <F3ro> so, if I have a question u guy scan help?
[18:45] <coleix> no one has an idea what that crypswap/mapper thing can be?
[18:45] <mordof> rhizmoe: let it sit for a while, if it doesn't fix itself - close and re open it
[18:45] <mordof> rhizmoe: you can't do anything if it locks up in an infinite loop
[18:45] <ubun> ok so can anyone help me. i have a black screen on startup. in tty get"usr/bin/x not found." what can i do to fix it?\
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> !ask| F3ro
[18:46] <rhizmoe> mordof: it's happened before and i've left it for days
[18:46] <usr13> rhizmoe: memtest  #Test your RAM
[18:46] <rhizmoe> mordof: there is no "close and reopen" without rebooting. firefox_bin stuck on sync_page on exit "Uninterruptible."
[18:46] <rhizmoe> usr13: lolno
[18:47] <mordof> rhizmoe: terminal - pkill firefox
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> rhizmoe: try ctrl-alt-backspace
[18:47] <usr13> mordof: rhizmoe I though it required a reboot?
[18:47] <rhizmoe> pkill is different than, say, kill -9 pid?
[18:47] <hagus> Is there a  command to fix dpkg  errors such as the following?
[18:47] <hagus> dpkg: error processing postgresql (--configure):  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[18:47] <rhizmoe> usr13: you're out of your element donny
[18:47] <mordof> rhizmoe: no, it's the same
[18:48] <usr13> rhizmoe: Is'nt that what you just said?
[18:48] <Toph2> why, when I do Ctrl-alt-backspace, nothing happens?
[18:48] <mordof> rhizmoe: i just use pkill because it does it by the process name instead of PID
[18:48] <rhizmoe> mordof: well that doesn't work either.
[18:48] <usr13> rhizmoe: What is a donny?
[18:48] <rhizmoe> mordof: sure. killall too
[18:48] <mordof> rhizmoe: right.. different variations
[18:48] <rhizmoe> usr13: movie quote, nevermind
[18:48] <wubw0b> !ops
[18:49] <mordof> rhizmoe: you're saying when firefox locks up on you - no matter what sort of kill process you use on it, it won't kill it...
[18:49] <usr13> rhizmoe: You were not explaining your issue properly.  Did you try to kill the process?
[18:49] <rhizmoe> mordof: on some hangs. it doesn't close dirty everytime, but occasionally it does.
[18:49] <hagus> Although I have successfully removed postgresql using glebihan's advice, when I try to reinstall it, I find that there is still some residual information that does not allow it to install properly.
[18:50] <mordof> rhizmoe: pkill should close an app that's in a complete lockup and not responding at all..
[18:50] <pythonsnake> ikonia: ban wubw0b ?
[18:50] <pythonsnake> lol :D
[18:50] <ikonia> pythonsnake: what ?
[18:50] <mordof> rhizmoe: if that doesn't work, you have some serious OS problems
[18:50] <rhizmoe> mordof: not zombies
[18:50] <mordof> o.O
[18:50] <pythonsnake> ikonia: nothing
[18:50] <F3ro> tyvm, so, how do I extract a compressed file, for instance, "debt-tslptd2.r00" ?
[18:50] <usr13> rhizmoe: Does the system lockup?  Or is it just firefox?
[18:51] <rhizmoe> just firefox. the process won't die, preventing me from (re-) opening firefox
[18:51] <hagus> Is my installation difficulty something for #postgresql rather for #ubuntu?
[18:51] <glebihan> mordof, that's not true : zombie processes cannot be killed, whatever command you use
[18:51] <glebihan> mordof, the only way is to kill their parent
[18:51] <usr13> rhizmoe: Again:  Did you try to kill the process?
[18:51] <rhizmoe> of course i tried to kill it
[18:51] <mordof> glebihan: i guess i've never run into trying to kill a zombie process
[18:51] <usr13> rhizmoe: With what command?
[18:51] <rhizmoe> well, firefox has a knack for zombifying itself
[18:52] <usr13> rhizmoe: With what command?
[18:52] <BarkingFish> Evening guys.  Dunno what his IRC name is, but is there a user here called Daniel Holbach?  I want to speak with him, assuming I can find him :)
[18:52] <rhizmoe> usr13: scroll up
[18:52] <coleix> Hey guys at boot im getting a message that says something about crypswap/mapper not present or somethin and press s to omit or press m to recover manually, because of this it takes longet to boot, anyway to solve this
[18:52] <usr13> rhizmoe:  Did you try pkill firefox?
[18:52] <rhizmoe> usr13: i think you're lagged
[18:52] <JuJuBee> Can someone lend a hand with routing issue?  http://pastebin.com/1BisU3qJ
[18:53] <usr13> rhizmoe: What does lagged mean?
[18:53] <mordof> usr13: you're asking him questions we went over a bit ago
[18:53] <rhizmoe> usr13: it's an irc thing. you seem to not have received my last 10 minutes of comments
[18:53] <glebihan> hagus, could you pastebin the error message again ?
[18:53] <oCean> BarkingFish: this is ubuntu technical support only
[18:54] <BarkingFish> oCean, I'm aware of that. I figured that the person I wanted might be here.
[18:54] <usr13> mordof: I asked him questions he could have answered with a simple yes or no.   Ok, I'm done with rhizome and his attitude.
[18:54] <Pici> BarkingFish: Hes usually in #ubuntu-community-team
[18:54] <BarkingFish> thanks Pici :)
[18:56] <BunnyLust> hey
[18:56] <hagus> http://www.pastie.org/2569948 glebihan
[18:56] <BunnyLust> updated from 9.10 to 10.04
[18:56] <BunnyLust> now I don't have sound
[18:56] <BunnyLust> where do I start to look for solutions?
[18:56] <F3ro> try 11+
[18:56] <BunnyLust> 11+?
[18:57] <scarleo> BunnyLust: I think you should probably add your user to audio group, logout and in again
[18:57] <BunnyLust> ok is that something that I can google how to do? :P
[18:58] <F3ro> yeah 11.04 is available now...
[18:58] <BunnyLust> don't want to bug you if it's obvious >.>
[18:58] <BunnyLust> oh
[18:58] <scarleo> BunnyLust: System Settings Users and Groups
[18:58] <BunnyLust> I want to upgrade to 11
[18:58] <glebihan> hagus, could you try "sudo apt-get install postgresql-common" and pastebin the output ?
[18:58] <BunnyLust> but I see no option for it
[18:58] <BunnyLust> scarleo: I'll try that now, thanks
[18:58] <usr13> BunnyLust: Run alsamixer first, and see if there are channels muted or turned down. And see if the correct audio device is quoted in upper left.
[18:59] <BunnyLust> alsamixer shows everything normally
[18:59] <usr13> BunnyLust: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp   #See if you get errors or if you hear the noise, (Ctrl-c to stop it)
[18:59] <BunnyLust> ok logging out
[18:59] <hagus> looks much the same as before, glebihan.  http://www.pastie.org/2569968
[19:00] <tuzlo> how does one set up a printer to be shared across a home network in Ubuntu?
[19:00] <BunnyLust> usr13: no errors, no noise
[19:01] <synackfin> how do I boot to console instead of boot to X ?
[19:01] <usr13> BunnyLust: CHeck to see if the speakers are plugged into correct port, or just switch ports and see if you get sound from another.
[19:01] <BunnyLust> speakers are internal - laptop
[19:01] <BunnyLust> scarleo: I did that, no joy
[19:01] <usr13> BunnyLust: Do you have external switch or volume control?
[19:02] <h00k> !text | synackfin
[19:02] <glebihan> hagus, looks like you have some faulty configuration files, maybe you could try "sudo apt-get purge postgresql postgresql-common postgresql-8.4" and then try to install again
[19:02] <BunnyLust> usr13: no, I don't think it's a hardware issue
[19:02] <BunnyLust> let me try some headphones
[19:02] <BunnyLust> nope, doesn't work with headphones, either
[19:02] <tyler_d> I am trying to get "atftpd" to start and cannot; not for lack of trying, anyone successful with this daemon?
[19:02] <BunnyLust> it happened right after the update, so I think it's related to that
[19:02] <mordof> ubun: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1351375
[19:03] <F3ro> yeah prolly just a driver issue
[19:03] <BunnyLust> cool
[19:03] <usr13> BunnyLust: but if you ran  cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp  and got no error, and alsamixer shows correct device and nothing is muted or turned down, it appears the software is working as it should.
[19:03] <mordof> ubun: i'm not sure if that's your problem
[19:03] <BunnyLust> how should I go about fixing the driver if that is the issue?
[19:03] <scarleo> BunnyLust: Ok, could you try sudo modprobe -a snd_hda_intel
[19:03] <BunnyLust> usr13: it appears it's working, aside from it not playing anything :)
[19:04] <BluesKaj> BunnyLust, another thing , in alsamixer make sure none of the control boxes have Ms in them , use the M key to unmute
[19:04] <usr13> BunnyLust: Do have earphones?
[19:04] <BunnyLust> yes, I just tried them
[19:04] <BunnyLust> they don't work either
[19:04] <BunnyLust> scarleo: doesn't print anything
[19:04] <scarleo> BunnyLust: It shouldnt
[19:04] <scarleo> Does you sound work now?
[19:04] <usr13> BunnyLust: Yes, did you look for the M  or   MM  at the bottom of any of those channels?
[19:04] <BunnyLust> oh god I'm an idiot
[19:05] <BunnyLust> there were MM
[19:05] <F3ro> does anyone know of a way to mount an .iso file and play it?
[19:05] <BunnyLust> works now
[19:05] <tuzlo> how does one set up a printer to be shared across a home network in Ubuntu? Ubuntu detected and printed from it easily, I want to share it amongst other computers now
[19:05] <usr13> BunnyLust: There you go....
[19:05] <ubun> mordof: ill try that thanks
[19:05] <BunnyLust> thanks guys, orryabout the trouble :P
[19:05] <F3ro> hah! awesome!
[19:05] <hagus> glebihan, I did as you asked and then I reinstalled common http://www.pastie.org/2569988
[19:05] <usr13> F3ro: use the loop option.
[19:05] <F3ro> loop option?
[19:05] <hagus> So that looks different from what I was getting before anyway.
[19:06] <glebihan> hagus, looks like it worked
[19:06] <usr13> F3ro: mount -t iso9660 -o loop,ro /home/somebody/foobar.iso /mnt/cdrom
[19:06] <BunnyLust> I have some more questions if you guys don't mind
[19:06] <hagus> I take it that the rebuilding of dictionaries was a good sign.
[19:06] <BunnyLust> how would I go about using dual screens?
[19:06] <glebihan> hagus, try installing the postgresql package and see how it goes
[19:07] <BunnyLust> I've tried stuff before, but no good results
[19:07] <japro> hi, so apparently i'm to stupid to get to a console session
[19:07] <usr13> japro: Ctrl-Alt-F6
[19:07] <tuzlo> do I need Samba to share a printer?
[19:07]  * BluesKaj cdurses alsamixer default mute settings ...always a problem...wonder why the devs in all their wisdom would choose mute as a default setting. I'm constantly amazed at the negligence in this matter
[19:08] <usr13> tuzlo: With a MS Windows machine?  Yes.  With another Linux PC  no.
[19:08] <tuzlo> crap I hate Samba and windows
[19:08] <scarleo> BunnyLust: Whats your GPU?
[19:08] <hagus> glebihan: http://www.pastie.org/2570004 - I think it worked!
[19:08] <BunnyLust> Ati Radeon
[19:09] <mrstibbons> hi
[19:09] <BunnyLust> also I'd like to try XGL or something, but I don't have my heart set on it
[19:09] <glebihan> hagus, yep, it did
[19:09] <scarleo> BunnyLust: Sorry, no experience with that, just nvidia
[19:09] <usr13> tuzlo: Sorry, we can't fix your emotions.  :)
[19:09] <japro> usr13, hmm, ok what i actually want is shut down X
[19:09] <tuzlo> should I install samba or smbfs
[19:09] <BunnyLust> no worries, thanks anyway
[19:09] <hagus> Thank for all your help, glebihan :)
[19:09] <qin> japro: sudo service gdm stop
[19:09] <glebihan> hagus, you're welcome :)
[19:09] <Dan48p> Hi I am having trouble installing Ubuntu as a dual boot.  The installer does not recognize my windows 7 installation and says there is no operating system on the drive.  I
[19:09] <usr13> japro: sudo service gdm stop
[19:10] <japro> usr13, qin, thx
[19:10] <usr13> Dan48p: How many drives do you have in it?
[19:10] <mrstibbons> my girlfriend is running ubuntu 10.04 netbook edition and her internal microphone is not working in skype. funny thing is that i can hear her music and sound effect. sounds for me like the wrong signal is sended to skype and i am wondering where i can "rewire" it?
[19:10] <scarleo> Dan48p: It is correct, W7 is just a bad excuse for an OS ;)
[19:10] <Dan48p> user829385, just one
[19:11] <cvance> Hello, I was working with a company that had a really nice vnc access portal. Each workstation was running a little daemon. When the machine was on, it would connect to a central management server, and when IT wanted to remotely control a workstation, they would log into a web portal on the lan, and it would have a listing of all active computers on the network.
[19:11] <cvance> Does anyone know of a open source software which kinda does the same thing?
[19:12] <usr13> cvance: Well, you could just have launchers for each system  on your network.
[19:12] <cvance> usr13: can you elaborate a little bit more please?
[19:12] <Dan48p> scarleo, i have done this before and have not had any problems.  i usually shrink the windows partition from within windows and then the ubuntu installer allows me to install in the unallocated space.  This time however it does not recognize that anything is on the disk.  The same thing happens with debian and xubuntu installers.
[19:13] <qin> cvance: Machines can "register" on website using curl (any language would be ok).
[19:14] <scarleo> Dan48p: I know, I was just kidding, I've done it too although it was a long time ago. Not sure about how to fix your problem
[19:14] <usr13> cvance: Well, there are a number of ways you can do it, but if you have everyone on static IPs it would be easy to have launchers for each system, just hame them appropriately and click on the one you want and a VNC window just pops up.
[19:15] <cvance> usr13, yeah, I have static ip's assigned, I just being lazy and seeing if anyone knows of some neatly prepared package that does what i'm looking for.
[19:15] <usr13> cvance: I just use tightvnc  and   x11vnc
[19:15] <cvance> If not, no sweat, I can just run the servers and connect because I assigned static ips
[19:16] <cvance> I forgot what my last employer used, but it was kinda neat but very expensive.
[19:16] <F3ro> user13, it didn't work...
[19:16] <cvance> tightvnc or realvnc or ultravnc?
[19:16] <cvance> what do you guys like?
[19:17] <F3ro> is there a video player that wil play an iso straight fromthe hdd without making a disk?
[19:17] <usr13> cvance: I prefer just using IP addresses.  When I do Ctrl-F2 the run box comes up and when I type vn it autocompeltes to vncviewer 192.168.1.   and I just type in the last number or two and I'm there.
[19:17] <BluesKaj> F3ro, vlc
[19:17] <F3ro> vlc will do that?
[19:17] <BluesKaj> yes
[19:17] <F3ro> kewl, i will try it, tyvm
[19:17] <cvance> ah, i forgot to mention that I am running windows on the workstations
[19:18] <usr13> cvance: But if you like names instead of numbers, just fill in the hosts file with them and they can be c1, c2, c3, c4   etc.
[19:18] <scarleo> mrstibbons: install pavucontrol, on input pull right channel down to 0, untick allow skype to automatically adjust my volume settings in Skype settings
[19:18] <usr13> cvance: Doesn't matter.
[19:18] <cvance> I have the machines on my dns server, resolution is not a problem.
[19:18] <cvance> more like, I'm looking for suggestions. They would all work fine I think, but wanted a little opinion or two.
[19:18] <usr13> cvance: So just create launchers for each.
[19:19] <mrstibbons> scarleo, thanks
[19:19] <netman86> ubuntu using 100% cpu (process syslogd) after a recent upgrade. Is this a common issue?
[19:19] <usr13> cvance: Again, there are a number of ways to make it convenient and easy, just depends on how you like to do it, (and if you will always access them from the same PC or not).
[19:19] <bagels> where is my calibre program installed? I can't find the plugins folder
[19:20] <japro> so i tried to install cuda drivers on 11.04
[19:20] <usr13> netman86: Most likely not.
[19:20] <qin> bagels: dpkg -l calibre
[19:21] <qin> bagels: Also (may help): man calibre
[19:21] <japro> apparently removing nvidia-current wasn't enough
[19:21] <plouffe> I've had this behavior for a while now. My windows randomly switch focus. E.g. I am reading in the browser and suddenly a pdf pops to the foreground without me even touching the mouse or keyboard. Any ideas what's causing this?
[19:21] <scarleo> bagels: or: sudo updatedb && locate calibre
[19:21] <Hacker> ola
[19:21] <netman86> plouffe- are your hads over the keyboard?
[19:21] <plouffe> no
[19:21] <macer1> does sabdfl come on #ubuntu sometimes?
[19:21] <netman86> then I'm out of ideas
[19:21] <usr13> plouffe: Does this happen at any particular time of day?
[19:22] <plouffe> usr13, not aware of it, why?
[19:22] <usr13> plouffe: Do you have mischevious (teen-aged) childeren, or friends?
[19:22] <plouffe> usr13, I think it happens at any time
[19:22] <plouffe> usr13, no one else uses this computer
[19:23] <usr13> plouffe: One explanation is a cron job.  Look at crontab -l
[19:23] <qin> macer1: sabdfl has blog, if this help.
[19:23] <bagels> qin, scarleo, all I get is a list of files, or not the info I need.  There seems to be just a huge pile of folders.
[19:23] <plouffe> I made a cronjob for switching my wallpaper. But I've had this longer than the switching windows
[19:23] <macer1> qin: yes I know that
[19:23] <usr13> plouffe: Is it the same pdf file each time?
[19:24] <scarleo> bagels: ok, do locate calibre | grep plugin
[19:24] <plouffe> usr13, no, any windows, could be I'm reading a pdf and it pops up totem
[19:24] <scarleo> bagels: you were looking for the plugin folder, right?
[19:24] <bagels> scarleo, yes
[19:24] <aLeSD> hi all
[19:25] <aLeSD> I am cosing a software .. how to make it included in ubuntu repo ?
[19:25] <bagels> aha, there it is
[19:25] <bagels> tyvm
[19:25] <aLeSD> here I am
[19:25] <usr13> plouffe: What application comes up?  (I thought you said that a pdf file was being displayed on the screen.)
[19:25] <bagels> ^ scarleo
[19:25] <ubun> mordof: thank you so much. i fixed it. that link help solve part of it. then i did sudo apt-get install nvidia-current and bingo it worked thank you so much. (very valuable time saved)
[19:25] <scarleo> bagels: np
[19:25] <plouffe> usr13, it was an example. Basically randomly a window pops to the foreground
[19:25] <mordof> ubun: you're quite welcome :) i'm glad i could help ^-^
[19:26] <usr13> plouffe: That is not what you said at first.  You said that "a pdf pops to the foreground"
[19:26] <plouffe> usr13, I said "for example"
[19:31] <frhodes_> anyone know how to make w3m display images?
[19:32] <h00k> frhodes_: it doesn't, it's a text-based browser
[19:33] <warmax26> so i need some help
[19:33] <zebastianortis> problem i logged into linux and the wireless isnt working
[19:34] <io> frhodes_: it supports images on certain Terminals. h00k
[19:34] <zebastianortis> even if i plug it directly
[19:34] <io> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W3m, ask me no more
[19:34] <zebastianortis> the led light that indicates signal reading is red which should be blue
[19:34] <zebastianortis> if i press on the button itdoesnt change either
[19:34] <various> Whats better? running pvcreate on a partition "/dev/sda1" or on a whole disk "/dev/sda"?  Does anyone know?  And why?
[19:35] <ironhalik> Hmm, could someone tell me, why natty lost half it configs, themes and small things like theme notifiers after a casual reboot? :>
[19:35] <warmax26> so i installed ubuntu to my windows pc and i deleted the reg entry for wubi
[19:35] <warmax26> and now i want to uninstall it
[19:36] <warmax26> but im getting an error message saying that i need a disk in drive 1
[19:36] <h00k> frhodes_: apparently you can try w3m-img
[19:36] <warmax26> does anyone know what i can do?
[19:37] <SetiAmon> So what compiz doesn't come with ubuntu anymore?
[19:37] <Kaco> evening
[19:37] <Darkenvy> I have zip archives of daily backups. Is there a compression that will save the original + changes? (incrementally?)
[19:37] <xangua> SetiAmon: it does
[19:37] <F3ro> did u make a backup of ur windows hdd before you installed, ubuntu?
[19:37] <Kaco> Darkenvy: switch to macosx ;-)
[19:37] <warmax26> ummm
[19:37] <warmax26> maybe
[19:37] <Darkenvy> zip/rar simply throw everything into a file
[19:37] <SetiAmon> Xangua:were?
[19:37] <Darkenvy> kaco, I run osx, windows and linux.
[19:38] <Darkenvy> kaco my backups are of my game server
[19:38] <F3ro> u could just rstore ur backup and try again, or not...
[19:38] <warmax26> but if i try intalling wubi again will it recognize that its installed and that it needs to uninstall a previous version?
[19:38] <various> Darkenvy, look into rshapshot
[19:38] <warmax26> or does it need the reg entry to be able to do that
[19:38] <Kaco> Darkenvy, yeah i was joking, because that is what Time Machine does in macosx :)
[19:39] <F3ro> if u made a backup, it would still be there...
[19:39] <h00k> Darkenvy: consider checking out Deja Dup
[19:39] <Darkenvy> various this doesnt help because I already have the 400GB of abckup data to consolidate
[19:39] <h00k> !backup | Darkenvy
[19:40] <Darkenvy> hook dont call ubottu
[19:40] <Darkenvy> I already have the backup files!
[19:40] <various> lol
[19:40] <warmax26> im running windows now tho
[19:40] <Darkenvy> I am purging old information. I mean the game folder only increases by 4MB/day
[19:40] <warmax26> i need to uninstall ubuntu from my comp
[19:40] <F3ro> oic
[19:40] <various> Whats better? running pvcreate on a partition "/dev/sda1" or on a whole disk "/dev/sda"?  Does anyone know?  And why?
[19:41] <Darkenvy> thus, I should be able to only compress the first backup of the month and have the other 29 backups be only 4MB each
[19:41] <h00k> Darkenvy: yeah, you should check out duplicity or deja-dup, those backup systems will do differentials as well as encryption if you want
[19:41] <leeping> ls
[19:41] <leeping> oh sorry! :)
[19:41] <hook`> Darkenvy: ill call ubottu any time i want
[19:41] <Darkenvy> but those programs will only starting today. not consolidate my current files?
[19:41] <F3ro> do u not have ur ubuntu disk?
[19:41] <Darkenvy> thats obviously a different nick :P " hook' "
[19:42] <h00k> Darkenvy: correct
[19:42] <Darkenvy> :P
[19:42] <h00k> Darkenvy: or you could write your own rsync/tar.gz cronjob or something
[19:42] <Darkenvy> look im not interested in starting something new
[19:42] <Darkenvy> Im loooking for a compression tool to consolidate existing backups :S
[19:42] <BluesKaj> too many hooks spoil the fish'
[19:43] <Darkenvy> all these programs make new files from archives changing now :S
[19:43] <F3ro> tar won't do that?
[19:43] <Darkenvy> I think I tried tar
[19:44] <h00k> Darkenvy: check out the man page of tar, there's a differential flag
[19:44] <Darkenvy> and it didnt say 'hey both these files are only 4MB different! perhaps I should consoludate'
[19:44] <Darkenvy> do you know the flag h00k?
[19:45] <h00k> Darkenvy: -d will do diff, -A will append, -u will update
[19:45] <h00k> Darkenvy: check out the man page, you may find something there if that helps
[19:45] <Darkenvy> so ide probably: create tar with first file. add new file to tar with -d ?
[19:46] <F3ro> -r will append
[19:46] <Darkenvy> append isnt what needs to be done
[19:47] <Darkenvy> append would change the file to the new state
[19:47] <netman86> so we've got this ubuntu netbook recently updated from 9.x or 10.x to 11.04, and now whenever the rsyslog service starts it immediately eats as much available cpu cycles (all cores) as it can. Any thoughts?
[19:49] <h00k> Darkenvy: curiousity, would it be bad to start over with something like duplicity or dejadup?
[19:49] <h00k> Darkenvy: or you have some reason not to?
[19:49] <jams_> werd
[19:49] <Darkenvy> I have 8 months of abckups
[19:49] <h00k> Darkenvy: gotcha.
[19:49] <Darkenvy> I need to consoludate and keep these files (yes I go back t them sometimes)
[19:50] <Darkenvy> im reading the man of tar and -d seems like it only 'checks' for differences
[19:51] <Odaym> there's a problem with my sound..it just disappears sometimes, and I don't have the volume control icon on my panel ever since I purged pulseaudio, thinking it was causing this abrupt interruption in sound at random intervals
[19:51] <Odaym> I fell back on ALSA, but still the same problem
[19:51] <Odaym> and, there's no volume control applet in the gnome-applets either
[19:51] <Odaym> but I can access the sound from System > Preferences > Sound
[19:52] <Odaym> I press on Test Speakers and that application (for sound) crashes
[19:52] <Odaym> how primitive
[19:52] <Odaym> how...inferior
[19:55] <htpc> sup all
[19:55] <htpc> quick question
[19:55] <htpc> bluetooth + Plantronics Voyager Pro+
[19:55] <bagels> Can someone do me a favor?
[19:56] <PyDon> hi
[19:56] <PyDon> me too :)
[19:56] <aLeSD> hi
[19:56] <htpc> skype doesn't recognize device
[19:56] <aLeSD> how could I create a deb package from source code ?
[19:56] <PyDon> can anyone help me? how many bytes are 1 Kilobyte on CentOS?
[19:56] <htpc> using blueman
[19:56] <PyDon> or on Ubuntu
[19:56] <Pici> Aethec: Take a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
[19:57] <Pici> PyDon: The same number of bytes that are in any kilobyte.
[19:57] <io> aLeSD: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
[19:57] <Pici> aLeSD: sorry, that was for you: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
[19:57] <PyDon> so what value exactly?
[19:57] <io> :-)
[19:57] <llutz> PyDon: per definition a kilobyte is 1000 byte, kibibyte = 1024 byte
[19:57] <htpc> any clue ?
[19:57] <PyDon> llutz: yes, same on linux?
[19:57] <PyDon> i know windows fails here
[19:57] <Odaym> this is a better source, aLeSD : http://lmgtfy.com/?q=create+deb+package+from+source
[19:58] <llutz> PyDon: should be same
[19:58] <Pici> Odaym: No it isn't, and lgmtfy is not appreciated here.
[19:58] <PyDon> llutz: ok, great, thx
[19:58] <iceroot> PyDon: its always the same, the only problem is that some programs are showing KByte but mean KiByte
[19:59] <htpc> ?
[19:59] <PyDon> iceroot: yes..
[19:59] <PyDon> how would you handle this platform independent?
[19:59] <aLeSD> thanks
[19:59] <iceroot> PyDon: just use the standard
[19:59] <iceroot> PyDon: thats a reason a standard exist
[19:59] <htpc> aaaa this shit annoys me so bad
[20:00] <Pici> htpc: Please mind your language here.
[20:00] <Eddie> I just upgraded to natty, anyone know how I can ditch this whole new launcher etc and get my old panels / virtual desktops etc back?
[20:00] <pythonsnake> htpc: or you'll be banned.
[20:00] <htpc> my bad /b/ro
[20:00] <Pici> !classic | Eddie
[20:00] <pythonsnake> Eddie: yes
[20:00] <pythonsnake> Eddie: at login screen
[20:00] <iceroot> PyDon: but a file is not bigger on linux than on windows or the other way (but there are differences when using different filesystems)
[20:00] <htpc> im just so angry when things don't work as they're desinged t
[20:00] <PyDon> sure...
[20:00] <iceroot> PyDon: or different block-sizes
[20:00] <Eddie> Thanks folks, feels a little too netbookish for my taste
[20:00] <PyDon> yeap
[20:01] <lloowen_> Hello all. I have a live cd of Kubuntu 10.04. Is there a way I can install this using the cli only? I don't have a monitor for my pc just an old TV so the graphical install does not work. If I can install it using the cli, then I can install nvidia and hey presto! I cannot get the nvidia driver to work on the latest kubuntu or xubuntu :(
[20:01] <PyDon> I just wonder if I display the amount of used memory on windows and Linux
[20:01] <PyDon> the windows app show the same as linux, but on both systems the mean something diffferent
[20:01] <htpc> k
[20:01] <htpc> im out for a sec
[20:01] <htpc> reboot
[20:01] <pythonsnake> lloowen_: search for cli kubuntu installer
[20:02] <PyDon> so if there is " 3.5 GB" in memory.. the most people might think that their computer runs out of memory
[20:02] <PyDon> even there are real 500 MB left
[20:02] <warmax26> i have a question
[20:02] <iceroot> !ram | PyDon
[20:02] <pythonsnake> !ask | warmax26
[20:02] <warmax26> if i delete the ubuntu folder that contains ubuntu on my windows 7 computer will that get rid of ubuntu?
[20:03] <pythonsnake> sure
[20:03] <PyDon> iceroot: yes, for sure, i Know
[20:03] <PyDon> -K + k
[20:03] <PyDon> just for users
[20:03] <warmax26> wait so if i just delete the folder it will be gone?
[20:03] <pythonsnake> warmax26: the question is stupid - will you delete ubuntu if you delete ubuntu ?
[20:03] <pythonsnake> warmax26: delete root = no more ubuntu
[20:04] <warmax26> ok
[20:04] <iceroot> warmax26: maybe the wubi-bootloader still exists, i dont know wubi very well
[20:04] <zykotick9> warmax26, you probably want to use the Uninstall tool to get rid of bootloader etc.
[20:04] <iceroot> warmax26: if you are talking about wubu
[20:04] <warmax26> i deleted the reg entry
[20:04] <iceroot> wubi
[20:04] <warmax26> so wubi doesnt know its there
[20:04] <warmax26> and i cant use the unintaller because theres no reg entry
[20:05] <warmax26> i get an error saying that i need to insert disk
[20:05] <warmax26> so where do i go to get rid of the bootloader
[20:05] <pythonsnake> warmax26: hmm.
[20:05] <pythonsnake> rm -rf /boot
[20:06] <Myrtti> er, no
[20:06] <zykotick9> warmax26, ask in ##windows how to reinstall the MS bootloader
[20:06] <warmax26> ok
[20:06] <StuhrM> sweet
[20:07] <Pici> warmax26: It should just be as easy as removing the entry from the Windows bootloader, but I forget where that menu is these days.
[20:07] <warmax26> yea
[20:07] <warmax26> if i knew i could do it
[20:07] <pythonsnake> no one here use google ? :/
[20:08] <warmax26> lol
[20:08] <Pici> pythonsnake: This is a support channel, we're here to solve support questions, not point people to a search engine.
[20:09] <pythonsnake> at least search a bit before asking
[20:09] <warmax26> problem is
[20:09] <warmax26> my problem is unique
[20:10] <llutz> everbodies problem is ...
[20:10] <warmax26> not always
[20:10] <synackfin> how do I get dpkg to display the time the package was installed?
[20:10] <unk> @unknown_huk: hey
[20:11] <unknown_huk> @unk: hey
[20:11] <zykotick9> synackfin, see if the package is listed in No video cards found..
[20:11] <zykotick9> synackfin, sorry paste fail there - check /var/log/dpkg.log
[20:11] <WinDu1965> hello, i installed Ubuntu 10.04 on a HP Elitebook 6930p, but on playing video, i get a audio error, "failed to initialize audio device"  need some help with this please
[20:11] <SetiAmon> is there a reason ubuntu software center keeps coming up as a grey box
[20:11] <synackfin> zykotick9: thanks
[20:12] <complexity> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE
[20:12] <pythonsnake> WinDu1965: whay app ?
[20:12] <complexity> anyone have any ideas how to get that video card working better
[20:12] <complexity> i can't even get in full screen
[20:12] <pythonsnake> !details | WinDu1965
[20:12] <neverblue> i would like to copy the contents of PCs/Macs HDs to a network location, can I do that with a Live Ubuntu USB stick ? is there an easier method ?
[20:13] <SetiAmon> Complexity:activate restricted drivers
[20:13] <japro> so the program i'm trying to run fails to open "libcudart.so.4" which is in /usr/local/cuda/lib
[20:13] <complexity> SetiAmon, how so?
[20:13] <japro> so i added that to LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[20:14] <japro> but it still doesn't find it
[20:14] <japro> do i have to set some right's so it can use the lib?
[20:14] <SetiAmon> System,admin,drivers
[20:14] <complexity> everything has changed so much
[20:14] <SetiAmon> System,administration,drivers
[20:14] <SetiAmon> I should say
[20:14] <complexity> i think i checked that already and had nothing
[20:14] <SetiAmon> so far i think ubuntu is a regression
[20:14] <WinDu1965> pythonsnake , with any app, tried vlc, dragonplayer, XMBC
[20:15] <complexity> SetiAmon, no proprietary drivers are in use on this system, and I can't enable them
[20:15] <pythonsnake> WinDu1965: mplayer ?
[20:15] <pythonsnake> wait..
[20:15] <pythonsnake> try aslamixer
[20:15] <ScatterBrain>  I just updated my laptop with the newest Kernel - came in as a software update.  When I rebooted, EVERYTHING is slower now.  Booting, Starting Gnome everything except for typing is slower.  Anyone know of a problem with the newest kernel?
[20:16] <htpc> sup all
[20:16] <sphearion> anyone here familiar with Tesseract-ocr?
[20:16] <htpc> did anybody got Plantronics Voyager Plus working with Skype ?
[20:17] <SetiAmon> Complexity:what graphics card?nividia?
[20:17] <SetiAmon> so far i think ubuntu has been regressing since jaunty
[20:17] <pythonsnake> WinDu1965: what is your audio card?
[20:17] <ikonia> SetiAmon: you've said that, do you need technal support or are you just going to keep repeating that
[20:17] <complexity> SetiAmon, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE
[20:18] <Jcook_5xData> complexity, this may help you http://janvandevoort.wordpress.com/2010/03/27/ubuntu-9-10-with-vga-intel-82845gglbrookdale-gge/
[20:18] <WinDu1965> pythonsnake, hang on, need to check this
[20:18] <SetiAmon> sorry been up for more then 24 stright.Didn't realize i said it once
[20:18] <SetiAmon> thought i was just thinking it
[20:18] <SetiAmon> at least i got my graphics issues resolved.now i got to fix the sound.sound plays then echos/static/distortions
[20:19] <solderman> just testing new package and apps
[20:19] <BarkingFish> SetiAmon, You'll probably think a lot more clearly if you go and get some sleep :)  Nobody works well under pressure, especially when they're tired!
[20:19] <WinDu1965> pythonsnake: a ADI SoundMAX AD1984A
[20:20] <SetiAmon> I'm On afterburn right now.
[20:20] <SetiAmon> its how i learn best
[20:20] <SetiAmon> So sound plays,but then there is a hanging on,like distortion/echo effect that echo's on for awhile.anyone know how i can fix this
[20:20] <SetiAmon> X-FI soundcard
[20:20] <warmax26> allright
[20:20] <monkd> hi, I installed postfix + dovecot. I can receive emails but not send them. i got 250-starttls and 250-auth plain login when I ran telnet localhost 25, ehlo localhost
[20:20] <warmax26> so the ##windows ppl helped me out
[20:20] <monkd> what's the problem?
[20:21] <Myrtti> warmax26: awesome
[20:21] <Pici> warmax26: good to hear
[20:21] <netman86> does anyone know offhand what $klogpath is in /etc/rsyslog.conf?
[20:21] <warmax26> i deleted the entry from the bootloader
[20:21] <neverblue> if you run Ubuntu in VMware, can you install the tools ?
[20:22] <Jcook_5xData> monkd, what ISP you on?
[20:22] <monkd> Jcook_5xData: sonera in finland
[20:22] <pythonsnake> WinDu1965: maybe module?
[20:23] <Jcook_5xData> monkd, more then likely you ISP is blocking smtp port
[20:23] <monkd> Jcook_5xData: so I should change the p25 to something else?
[20:23] <WinDu1965> pythonsnake: how do you mean
[20:23] <new2net> my ISP blocking stuff.... better not be
[20:23] <Jcook_5xData> monkd, try this http://bookmarks.honewatson.com/2008/04/20/postfix-gmail-smtp-relay/
[20:24] <Jcook_5xData> I have to because comcast block that port
[20:24] <sam555> hello all!
[20:25] <sam555> trying to find better instructions then here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN on how to actually use openvpn
[20:25] <sam555> it stops at creating the client
[20:27] <pythonsnake> WinDu1965: do you have asla driver?
[20:29] <WinDu1965> pythonsnake: dont know
[20:29] <Ziber> I'm running into a problem with apparmor, despite having uninstalled it its still complaining about not letting bind write to its master zone files
[20:30] <Ziber> http://paste.ziber.org/64467
[20:30] <WinDu1965> pythonsnake: have bien looking on the net found a page ons this, with a solution    sudo echo "options snd-hda-intel model=laptop" >> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[20:30] <pythonsnake> WinDu1965: it worked ?
[20:31] <WinDu1965> pythonsnake: nope, -bash: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf: Permission denied
[20:32] <pythonsnake> WinDu1965: try with su
[20:32] <cpglsn> hi again, i'm in remote with ssh. Can you tell me the package name of nvidia drivers ?
[20:32] <pythonsnake> su
[20:32] <pythonsnake> put your pass
[20:32] <pythonsnake> and echo foobar
[20:33] <Ziber> I'm running into a problem with apparmor, despite having uninstalled it its still complaining about not letting bind write to its master zone files. Error: http://paste.ziber.org/64467
[20:33] <WinDu1965> ikonia ???
[20:33] <edbian> cpglsn: there are many: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia&searchon=all&suite=natty&section=all
[20:34] <Ziber> I'm on ubuntu 11.04, server.
[20:34] <ikonia> WinDu1965: the guy is giving you incorrect advice
[20:34] <lindenle_> Can I write a resource rule with an array like this file{ "/test/${array}": ensure=> directory}
[20:34] <cpglsn> edbian: i only need the last
[20:34] <ikonia> WinDu1965: if you try running it with "sudo"
[20:34] <lindenle_> I am getting a directory with all the array entries merged instead of multiple directories.
[20:34] <lindenle_> Which confuses me
[20:34] <WinDu1965> ikonia: ok ,but with sudo su no eror
[20:34] <WinDu1965> error
[20:34] <Pici> WinDu1965: echo "options snd-hda-intel model=laptop" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[20:34] <ikonia> WinDu1965: whoaaa, don't do that
[20:34] <ikonia> WinDu1965: follow Pici
[20:35] <sam555> anyone want to help me out with openvpn?
[20:35] <cpglsn> edbian: the problem is this: i'm preparing on vb a customize kubuntu for a school, so i can't test the nvidia driver, but the card they have is
[20:35] <cpglsn> GeForce 8400 GS
[20:35] <Ziber> might anyone be able to help me? i have to leave in a few minutes.
[20:36] <cpglsn> Ziber: what problem ?
[20:36] <Ziber> I'm running into a problem with apparmor, despite having uninstalled it its still complaining about not letting bind write to its master zone files. Error: http://paste.ziber.org/64467 (Ubuntu 11.04, server)
[20:37] <PsiKloPx> anyone know of a program that won't allow anyone to log into a computer without a certain USB key plugged in?
[20:37] <popey> PsiKloPx: yubikey?
[20:37] <cpglsn> PsiKloPx: without a usb ? i think you have to script a bit with lsusb
[20:38] <cpglsn> Ziber: sorry, no idea
[20:38] <Ziber> :(
[20:38] <Ziber> makes two of us
[20:38] <SIFTU> PsiKloPx: http://www.techienote.com/2011/03/lock-unlock-ubuntu-desktop-using-usb-drive.html
[20:38] <PsiKloPx> I had a windows program years ago that locked the computer without the usb connected...just can't remember the name....I'll check out yubikey
[20:38] <huarang> http://www.truecrypt.org/downloads
[20:38] <WinDu1965> pici, did it your way, system rebooting
[20:38] <huarang> it has encription too
[20:41] <PsiKloPx> Thanks cpglsn and SIFTU....looks like that's the ticket....laters
[20:41] <htpc> sup all
[20:41] <Polah> PsiKloPx: Encrypt data and put the file containing the information needed decrpytion on a USB drive and make a symlink to it on the actual drive. Thus, without the USB drive plugged in, the drive cannot be decrypted.
[20:42] <htpc> thats me again
[20:42] <htpc> sorry for bugging
[20:42] <htpc> but it kills me
[20:42] <htpc> anybody had a successful try to connect bluetooth headset to 11.04
[20:42] <htpc> ?
[20:45] <htpc> ?
[20:45] <neverblue> htpc
[20:45] <neverblue> nope
[20:45] <htpc> :/
[20:45] <jargon> Twitter #BLOC14 @OccupyWallSt #ourwallstreet #takewallstreet
[20:46] <htpc> it's like a 3rd day
[20:46] <rww> jargon: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support, not random silliness, thanks.
[20:47] <jargon> burning at 18.4GHz on four processors
[20:48] <htpc> so just in case anybody tried it before
[20:48] <htpc> device connected to the bluetooth adapter
[20:48] <LaWU> @rww: LOL...
[20:48] <htpc> paired
[20:48] <htpc> set as a A2DP device
[20:48] <Polah> !enter | htcp
[20:48] <htpc> ubottu sorry.
[20:49] <htpc> device paired, set as a2dp, but no new sound devices in pulse/alsa/skype
[20:49] <Locker537> Does anyone have "the best" solution for installing and running multiple version of Python on ubuntu 10.04? The default (2.6.5) has bugs which have been fixed in newer versions.
[20:49] <w30> wifi/part
[20:49] <rubbs> How can I get notified if there is a terminal bell in Unity? It seems like I'm being hit by this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/769314
[20:49] <LaWU> Anyone have a decent guide on how to set up a email sever on Ubuntu?
[20:52] <htpc> :/
[20:53] <WinDu1965> pici: thx for the help
[20:53] <MonkeyDu1t> my ps -e shows a lot of processes with k in front, among which kworker, it corrupts my pc, hints & tips?
[20:53] <Pici> LaWU: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html should be able to get you started.  postfix is pretty simple to setup.
[20:56] <toddnine> Hi guys.  I'm looking for a vmware workstation replacement.  Can kvm with the virtual machine manager run windows ?
[20:56] <genii-around> MonkeyDu1t: http://askubuntu.com/questions/33640/kworker-what-is-it-and-why-is-it-hogging-so-much-cpu
[20:57] <LaWU> @Pici: Sorry for the delay (I was AFK). Thank you, I'll check it out.
[20:57] <rubbs> toddnine: yes, so can virtualbox
[20:58] <SIFTU> toddnine: yeah go virtualbox for desktop stuff
[20:58] <rubbs> toddnine: in the case of windows you may or may not see better performance with virtualbox
[20:58] <MonkeyDu1t> genii-around: that's for kde, i use gnome
[20:59] <toddnine> rubbs: Does virtual box have an option for auto starting virtual machines on startup?
[20:59] <rubbs> MonkeyDu1t: if you read it has an answer that is independent of gnome/kde
[20:59] <rubbs> toddnine: to be honest I'm not sure. a google search might help you though.
[21:00] <Ashex> Have there been any updates to networking in the past few days?
[21:00] <Ashex> Updates/Changes that it
[21:00] <SIFTU> toddnine: it has a headless mode and you can start it up in scripts
[21:01] <rubbs> toddnine: is this for desktop or server purposes?
[21:01] <rubbs> toddnine: and what are you planning on running in the windows VM?
[21:01] <SIFTU> toddnine: if you are doing graphical desktop stuff then virtualbox, headless server stuff kvm
[21:03] <glebihan> toddnine, there is an option for that
[21:03] <MonkeyDu1t> genii-around: what's the catch, i don't find the line with the answer
[21:04] <glebihan> toddnine, VirtualBox --startvm vmname
[21:04] <Ashex> So, any updates?
[21:04] <Ashex> Can anyone answer that for me?
[21:05] <glebihan> Ashex, depends on what you call "networking"
[21:06] <Ashex> Well, I'm not entirely sure myself. Essentially I've got a bunch of people who use Ubuntu, since Monday they've been having trouble logging in to their machine with network accounts
[21:06] <Ashex> It looks like the ethernet interface doesn't get an address until they login with a local account
[21:07] <toddnine> glebihan: Can that be headless as well, I.E. set it to start with cron and the @reboot time
[21:07] <zykotick9> toddnine, VBox lack of a native way to boot VMs on machine startup is a big failing, in my opinion.
[21:07] <Noobsauce> hello, I got some super nooby questions.
[21:08] <GinoMan> shoot Noobsause
[21:08] <yeats> Noobsauce: go ahead - we can take it ;-)
[21:08] <GinoMan> Noobsauce
[21:08] <SIFTU> Ashex: are they wireless?
[21:08] <Ashex> SIFTU: nope, all wired
[21:08] <Noobsauce> is there a way to have sudo rights and run programs via the gui ?
[21:08] <MonkeyDu1t> Noobsauce: gksudo
[21:08] <GinoMan> gksudo <command>
[21:08] <yeats> !gksu | Noobsauce
[21:08] <Ashex> I had someone who does manual updates update their computer and they're also experiencing the problem
[21:08] <glebihan> toddnine, I don't think so, I think VirtualBox needs a gui to run, but I'm not sure
[21:08] <zykotick9> toddnine, KVM requires your CPU to have virtualization support - but it does seem to have the fastest CPU speed of any of the VM software out there
[21:09] <Noobsauce> where do i set that?
[21:09] <Ashex> So this leads me to believe something in networking was recently updated and I'm trying to confirm
[21:09] <MonkeyDu1t> Noobsauce: alt-f2
[21:09] <GinoMan> you could also do nohup gksudo <command> 2>/dev/null >/dev/null
[21:09] <toddnine> I am running vmware-server as a workstation
[21:09] <toddnine> I may give KVM a try
[21:09] <fructose> Why do you have to login to view posts in ubuntuforums?
[21:10] <devish> what is this linux-image-generic2.6.38 in update
[21:10] <fructose> And who can I rage at about this?
[21:10] <devish> has anyone any idea aboyut
[21:10] <zykotick9> toddnine, kvm is very cool, i wasn't so impressed with libvirt - BUT many of the features you probably want are from libvirt
[21:10] <devish> it
[21:10] <Noobsauce> ok more ??  sorry I'm learning linux.  now I have the run program window what do I do with it.
[21:10] <yeats> devish: it's the linux kernel
[21:10] <GinoMan> devish: it's the kernel
[21:10] <GinoMan> ya, that
[21:10] <devish> so why its in the update
[21:11] <devish> i laready compiled the new one
[21:11] <yeats> devish: because the kernel is updated from time to time
[21:11] <MonkeyDu1t> Noobsauce: what do you want to do?
[21:11] <yeats> !kernel | devish
[21:11] <devish> yeats, the kernel.org was down today all the time
[21:11] <devish> is it not the compromised one
[21:12] <Noobsauce> I want to be able to run programs thru the gui with sudo. click them like windows.
[21:12] <devish> ?
[21:12] <yeats> devish: the update is from Ubuntu, not kernel.org
[21:12] <flamenkiita> ola
[21:12] <MonkeyDu1t> Noobsauce: do NOT do that
[21:12] <Noobsauce> why?
[21:12] <devish> yeats, yeah
[21:12] <genii-around> MonkeyDu1t: kworker is not a part of kde or gnome or any other dekstop. It is a kernel process which schedules jobs to be processed.
[21:12] <Noobsauce> I'm sorry I mean run installations
[21:12] <rubbs> Noobsauce: always use gksu to run your graphical things at root. But keep in mind running normal things as root is frowned upon.
[21:12] <MonkeyDu1t> win is vulnerable to malware, because of admin access
[21:12] <yeats> devish: not sure what you're asking...
[21:13] <zykotick9> Noobsauce, it's MUCH better to learn to use GNU/Linux properly.  Although it's a struggle at first.  Don't run everything as sudo.
[21:13] <rubbs> Noobsauce: by normal things I mean firefox etc.
[21:13] <MonkeyDu1t> Noobsauce: now you want admin access in linux
[21:13] <fliebel> Why doesn't Ubuntu support the screencast feature baked into Gnome 3?
[21:13] <Dice-Man> sudo
[21:13] <Dice-Man> oops
[21:13] <Noobsauce> I know I miss spoke I mean when I need to install something I want to just click it and run the install without command line typing everything
[21:14] <devish> yeats, i am not asking anything just i am worried see this http://kernel.org/
[21:14] <zykotick9> fliebel, because ubuntu doesn't use Gnome3 could be one reason
[21:14] <OerHeks> !gnome3
[21:14] <fructose> Can anyone tell me what this says... I am locked out of ubuntu forums because I failed my password 5 times... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222127
[21:14] <MonkeyDu1t> Noobsauce: if you want a system that works like win, then use win
[21:14] <devish> yeats, and also this linux.com
[21:14] <zykotick9> MonkeyDu1t, +1 ;)
[21:14] <Polah> fliebel: Because it doesn't support GNOME3 yet.
[21:14] <yeats> devish: that issue doesn't really have anything to do with Ubuntu - kernel.org (as you mentioned) was compromised...
[21:15] <Noobsauce> @Monkeydult oh......   if it's like that then why is there a fancy gui ???
[21:15] <fliebel> Oh, right... I somehow associated Unity with Gnome 3
[21:15] <devish> yeats, but for me ubuntu is after linux
[21:15] <Polah> fliebel: Nope, based on GNOME2. GNOME3 will be supported with 11.10
[21:15] <devish> yeats, i hope you are getting me
[21:16] <yeats> devish: nope - not understanding ;-)
[21:16] <Polah> Noobsauce: To make the system a bit easier to use.
[21:16] <fliebel> almost there... :) So will it be Unity based on Gnome 3, or just plain Gnome 3?
[21:16] <Noobsauce> well that is what i'm asking.  I'm trying to learn not get hated on.
[21:17] <devish> yeats, thats what was talking about G>n
[21:17] <Polah> fliebel: Well GNOME will stop shipping with 11.10. 11.10 will only ship with Unity from then onwards, but GNOME3 will be available in the repositories. Unity is based on either GNOME2 or 3 actually, I only know it's based on GNOME.
[21:17] <xangua> fliebel: unity runs on top of gnome
[21:17] <MonkeyDu1t> Noobsauce: here's my advice,  get used to the password, it's part of the linux way
[21:17] <yeats> devish: sorry - I'm still not understanding - might just be me though - ask the full channel your question and maybe someone can help
[21:18] <fructose> Can anyone please tell me if this thread provides an answer why mono apps suddenly fail in Ubuntu...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222127
[21:18] <fructose> I am trying to deal with a time-sensitive problem
[21:19] <bindi> Why do so many posts on the ubuntu forums require you to be logged in?
[21:19] <Noobsauce> I'm not afraid of the password. I'm trying to learn linux and I found out from around the net that you can run installs from the gui. I'm just asking how. I would like to paly around in a familiar setting while I venture forth on learning command line
[21:19] <fructose> Apparently the forums tell web crawlers not to cache the content and then require login. I have no idea why anyone in the Ubuntu community would be stupid enough to think that is a good idea
[21:19] <MonkeyDu1t> Noobsauce: it's called update manager
[21:19] <bindi> yeah well.. i've had answers on google, required me to log in.. went back, took cached version, and worked wonders :-)
[21:19] <zykotick9> Noobsauce, ubuntu-software-center or synaptic will allow GUI installs of software from the repository
[21:20] <MonkeyDu1t> Noobsauce: zykotick9 is correct
[21:20] <Noobsauce> Thanks zykotick9, the first non sarcastic answer.  I can see i better get my knowledge from somewhere else
[21:21] <MonkeyDu1t> Noobsauce: trial and error is the best way, it's how we all learned
[21:21] <Noobsauce> whatever!  out.
[21:23] <BluesKaj> sarcastic ???
[21:23] <tom_bombadil> hi, is it possible to install a minimal Ubuntu Gnome 11.04 system without Unity?
[21:23] <BluesKaj> his definition must be different than mine
[21:23] <synackfin> how do I get rid of the motd when folks ssh in?
[21:24] <synackfin> I tried editing /etc/motd but it keeps getting overwtitten by an Ubuntu banner
[21:24] <Polah> tom_bombadil: Install from the minimal ISO and build up
[21:24] <tom_bombadil> hi, is it possible to install a minimal Ubuntu Gnome 11.04 system without Unity?
[21:24] <jorge> donde puedo encotrar libros sobre ubuntus gratis
[21:24] <tom_bombadil> Polah: It won't install Unity with gnome automatically?
[21:24] <jlstew> tom_bombadil: you can disable Unity at the login screen
[21:24] <Polah> tom_bombadil, no.
[21:24] <BluesKaj> !es | jorge
[21:24] <tom_bombadil> cool, thanks guys
[21:25] <jorge> hey i need books on ubuntu
[21:25] <jorge> can any one help me
[21:25] <Polah> synackfin, there's an option in the ssh config file for setting showing the motd to yes/no
[21:25] <GreekFreak> Hi. I had a dual bool Ubuntu 11.04 with Win7. I subsequently formatted (through Windows) the Ubuntu partition, and now the laptop does not even load the LiveCD so I can start the install. Simply a black screen. Any ideas?
[21:26] <synackfin> Polah: sshd_config already has "PrintMotd no"
[21:26] <synackfin> Polah: I think ubuntu is printing it in bashrc
[21:26] <jlstew> jorge -- a book on ubuntu specifically or one geared towards linux in general?
[21:26] <SIFTU> synackfin: what files is your /etc/ssh/sshd_config referring to it's usually /etc/issues.net etc
[21:26] <Polah> synackfin, have you restarted ssh since?
[21:27] <jorge> linux in general
[21:27] <SIFTU> synackfin: ah could well be .bashrc
[21:27] <synackfin> Polah: Ubuntu ships with PrintMotd=no in sshd_config
[21:28] <jlstew> jorge -- 'Running Linux'
[21:28] <jlstew> i also have 'Linux in a Nutshell' as a quick reference
[21:29] <jkeith> anyone happen to be an expert in the area of epoll?
[21:29] <jlstew> otherwise, there are great online resources
[21:29] <synackfin> SITFU/Polah: I tried searching for "motd" in all the bashrc and profile scripts, can't find it
[21:29] <synackfin> I don't know how/where it's being motd
[21:29] <ethern0t> haillo
[21:29] <jkeith> crap, wrong channel
[21:29] <synackfin> I'd like to just be able to clear /etc/motd; but it's constantly being regenerated
[21:30] <halsafar> Unity bar on a two monitor twinview setup.  If the second monitor is left of the main monitor and the unity bar is on the left of the main monitor then maximized applications ignore the unity bar and draw under it.
[21:31] <ethern0t> synackfin: you has to change it somewhere else not /etc/motd
[21:31] <ethern0t> i am gonna check where hang on a sec
[21:31] <SIFTU> synackfin: you looked in the /etc/.bash* files and /etc/.profile?
[21:32] <synackfin> SIFTU: I looked at grep -ri motd /etc
[21:32] <synackfin> SIFTU: and grep -ri motd ~/
[21:32] <kmdm> Hi guys, any ideas what the problem might be if I'm doing a xen amd64 netboot install of 11.04, but in the installer if I hit 'Execute shell' I get 'Illegal instruction' ? (The xen dom0 and netboot are amd64)
[21:32] <SIFTU> synackfin: lol ok
[21:34] <synackfin> SIFTU: I think it's being printed by PAM
[21:34] <synackfin> SIFTU: rather than not printing out /etc/motd, I just want to clear out the contents of /etc/motd
[21:35] <synackfin> SIFTU: I have a blank /etc/motd on Fedora, but on Ubuntu it keeps getting created by something
[21:35] <ethern0t> synackfin: still there ?
[21:35] <ethern0t> synackfin:  /var/run/motd change here
[21:35] <nixmaniack> how to _flush dns cache_ in Ubuntu?
[21:36] <GreekFreak> hi again. My LiveCD boots to a black screen. Can anybody help? I've used the same CD to install ubuntu in the last 2 weeks
[21:36] <SIFTU> synackfin: update-motd --disable
[21:36] <SIFTU> synackfin: hmm that might be temporary
[21:37] <Polah> GreekFreak, are you sure it's booting from CD and not the drive?
[21:37] <nixmaniack> !flushdns
[21:37] <GreekFreak> Polah: yes. The drive takes me to Rescue grub, because I formated the Ubunut partition from win7
[21:37] <qin> What is downside of removal of console-kit-daemon?
[21:38] <SIFTU> qin: Some of the most common usages of consolekit is allowing non-root users to mount removable media and suspending/shutting down the computer through common desktop applications
[21:39] <synackfin> SIFTU: ah, I found out -- it's from /init/mounted-run.conf , it clobbers /etc/motd and is called by upstart
[21:39] <qin> SIFTU: Thank you, none then ;)
[21:40] <SIFTU> qin: you dont shutdown with a normal user?
[21:41] <little_bit> hi, i wanted to know how to copy the found files that i have searched in the console to my destination
[21:42] <little_bit> hi, i wanted to know how to copy the found files that i have searched in the console to my destination
[21:42] <qin> SIFTU: Not really. I am rather afaid that my logs start grow with misterious errors from less known services, well fist will test it on one box.
[21:42] <qin> *afraid
[21:42] <SIFTU> little_bit: with find? did you look at -exec
[21:43] <qin> little_bit: find . -name xxx -exec echo cp {} /where/to/copy \;
[21:43] <little_bit> SIFTU: ah ok
[21:43] <qin> little_bit: remove echo after testing
[21:44] <little_bit> SIFTU: isn't there something with a $ sign to work with?
[21:44] <trism> synackfin: you can disable the motd printing on ssh login by commenting out the pam_motd line in /etc/pam.d/sshd
[21:44] <SIFTU> little_bit: qin gave you the command
[21:45] <qin> Almost felt ignored. little_bit {} represents argument
[21:45] <little_bit> qui: ah ok now it works thanks
[21:46] <qin> little_bit: cp also accept regex, so: cp *xxx* /there/ ; will also work.
[21:46] <synackfin> trism: thanks, that worked
[21:51] <toodida> hello ....does anyone here using Ubuntu Cloud?
[21:52] <toodida> or anyone experience with Ubuntu Cloud?
[21:52] <toodida> One Ubuntu?
[21:53] <qin> toodida: Meaning: Ubuntu One? Ask specific question, may work better.
[21:55] <toodida> qin: I just set up Ubuntu one with a shared folder, how to make a friend to download file from my share folder? Do he need an account?
[21:56] <em> Are any of you interested in web design and development?
[21:56] <toodida> qin: or I have to give out my pwd to him to access my shared folder?
[21:56] <qin> em: /join #web
[21:58] <qin> toodida: Well, Ubuntu One isnot exactly sharing service, One moment.
[21:59] <toodida> hmm....it's a cloud service....what do U mean?
[21:59] <kasi> I seem to have broken my ubuntu install: sudo  apt-get purge  "libreoffice*"
[21:59] <qin> toodida: Apparently you can give your friend link to your files *stored* on Ubuntu One service.
[21:59] <kasi> Now I can't print anymore; it btw also deleted /usr/bin/google-chrome for no reason whatosever
[21:59] <savid> Hi, I'm trying to start a development webserver on port 8000, and it's saying the port is in use.  What's the best way to find out what process is using aport?   I've tried  "lsof -i :8000", but get no results.
[22:00] <kasi> how do I get cups to print again?
[22:00] <toodida> qin....i understood that, the friend needs the pwd and ID to access?
[22:00] <Polah> savid: Why 8000? Why not 80 or 8080?
[22:01] <qin> toodida: This will be source of my knowledge: http://edigitales.org/file-sharing-on-ubuntu-one/
[22:01] <savid> Polah, because that's the port that's in use.  I want to know what's using it.
[22:01] <Polah> savid: Use a different port?
[22:01] <savid> Polah,  that's not my question.
[22:01] <savid> Polah, I want to know how to find out what is using that port.
[22:02] <Polah> savid: netstat can show open ports. However, it would be simpler (and for a webserver make more sense, since HTTP uses 80 and 8080) to use another port
[22:02] <nixmaniack> how to *flush dns cache* in Ubuntu?
[22:03] <Polah> kasi: look in /var/log/dpkg.log for the programs uninstalled from that command then reinstall them
[22:03] <savid> Polah,  django's default web develeopment port is port 8000,  also known as http-alt
[22:03] <geminis> hola
[22:03] <geminis> nomoasmdas
[22:03] <geminis> dasdsagf
[22:03] <kasi> Polah, but how come it deleted /usr/bin/google-chrome ??
[22:03] <Polah> savid: 80 is standard http, 8080 is alternate, not 8000
[22:03] <synackfin> how do I get a list of files installed in a package?
[22:04] <qin> toodida: Usually you do not give your password to anyone. "Usually" you ought to translate as "Never"
[22:04] <kasi> Polah, dpkg still said that the package is installed, but the binary was missing
[22:04] <Polah> kasi: Because you gave it a wildcard and thus it probably removed a lot more than you wanted it to
[22:04] <synackfin> similar to rpm -ql (pkg) but for dpkg?
[22:04] <toodida> qin.....did you ever actually use ubuntu one?
[22:04] <BunnyLust> ok
[22:04] <Polah> kasi: purge with aptitude (aptitude --purge packagename, then reinstall. Configuration files will be removed by purging, mind
[22:04] <BunnyLust> weird shit
[22:04] <BunnyLust> I updated
[22:04] <qin> synackfin: dpkg -l package
[22:04] <BunnyLust> and now everything seems to lag
[22:04] <GreekFreak> I have "grub rescue" and my LiveCD does not boot. Does someone know how I can at least boot my windows partition?
[22:04] <BunnyLust> video is chopp
[22:04] <kasi> Polah, did it purge  more files or more packages? because as I said, the package was still reported as installed
[22:05] <qin> toodida: NOt much.
[22:05] <FerretWithASpork> Is it possible to have one portrait monitor and one landscape monitor while retaining the ability to drag windows between the two?
[22:05] <toodida> thx
[22:05] <BunnyLust> and pressing up in the terminal makes it take like 3 seconds for th previous command to appear
[22:05] <Polah> kasi: was it removed or is it just nonfunctional?
[22:05] <rypervenche> Polah: Don't even need the --, "aptitude purge packagename" works just fine :)
[22:05] <Polah> rypervenche: Ah, good to know.
[22:05] <kasi> Polah, it was *removed*
[22:05] <savid> Polah, well,  NMAP reports it as http-alt.  Either way, does it matter?   it's the standard for Django.
[22:05] <kasi> Polah, uninstalling the printer and reinstalling it now made it work again
[22:05] <Polah> kasi: You could try forcing reinstall.
[22:05] <oakman> how do i copy multiple files in a directory using  xfs_rtcp?  big reward
[22:06] <kasi> Polah, yes, I know how to fix that ,but I now wonder whether apt-get did delete some other random stuff, too
[22:06] <Polah> savid: I'm just saying the standard for http is 80, or 8080 sometimes. Since your 8000 is being used by something, it would be better to just configure the webserver to use another port rather than stop whatever is using 8000 which if you want to maintain over time if it's a service, you'll need to reconfigure that anyway
[22:07] <qin> oakman: for i in *; do xfs_rtcp $i /new/path/; done;
[22:07] <savid> Polah,  I've been using Django for 3 years.   Port 8000 is not generally used by anything else.  I'm assuming my current problem is that there's another django webserver running somewhere.   Hence the reason I would like to find the process and kill it.
[22:08] <toodida> qin: do you know how many group in #ubuntu chat? how to check it? I want to ask the specific question in a specicfic group?
[22:08] <Polah> savid: Look in service --status-all, and ps -A for the process. If so, perhaps use that webserver instead of a new one, assuming Django can host multiple sites.
[22:09] <qin> oakman: Or maybe disregard. Just went to xfs_rtcp man page.
[22:09] <savid> Polah,  it's a development server, not a system-wide service.
[22:09] <io> toodida: did you want a list of #ubuntu- channels?
[22:09] <Polah> kasi: It could've removed them due to you having broken their dependencies. It may also have matched package descriptions as well, for example I just simulated apt-get remove libreoffice* and it lists python-uno as well.
[22:10] <toodida> yes qin.
[22:10] <qin> toodida: There is no  groups, just channels, like: #ubuntu-offtopic, #xchat, #deforma. #etc
[22:10] <io> !irc > toodida
[22:10] <savid> Regardless, I just need to know what process is using the port
[22:10] <BunnyLust> so uh
[22:10] <toodida> yes, I meant channels
[22:10] <BunnyLust> also firefox seems to run at full speed
[22:10] <BunnyLust> while other applications
[22:10] <io> toodida: see the private message from ubottu
[22:10] <BunnyLust> like video lag lots
[22:10] <BunnyLust> also it appears to take a long time to boot
[22:10] <BunnyLust> known issue?
[22:11] <savid> Polah, nm, finally found it.
[22:11] <Loshki> toodida: if you ask you question here, we may be able to answer it, or direct you to a more appropriate channel...
[22:11] <Polah> !details | BunnyLust
[22:12] <BunnyLust> ubottu: I just ran the update to the version that comes before 11.04
[22:12] <BunnyLust> oh
[22:12] <BunnyLust> and video appears to lag now
[22:12] <BunnyLust> as does the terminal
[22:12] <BunnyLust> but irefox appears to run smoothly
[22:12] <Polah> BunnyLust: Still not enough information. What other processes are running, are any processes using a lot of processing time or memory according to top? What are you using to play video?
[22:12] <BunnyLust> VLC for video
[22:12] <qin> toodida: If you ask question regarding other, not supported here thing, you will be advised what channel to join. But there is !alis
[22:13] <BunnyLust> I'll ps | aux and look for anything rogue
[22:13] <qin> !alis
[22:13] <qin> BunnyLust: ps aux (no pipe there)
[22:13] <BunnyLust> yah
[22:14] <BunnyLust> some xce plugins seem to be running
[22:14] <BunnyLust> and Thunar
[22:14] <BunnyLust> that appear to use lots of ram
[22:14] <BunnyLust> no idea what they are
[22:14] <BunnyLust> there's nothing aside from firefox using more than 3% of memory
[22:15] <BunnyLust> *2
[22:15] <komputes> What ever happened to /var/log/messages? I would like to tail the file that will give me details on error mounting/unmounting.
[22:15] <Palace_Chan> if I have -L in the compile commandline do i still need to have the path in LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
[22:15] <blognewb> what do the two dots mean here: ../somefolder/ ?
[22:16] <BunnyLust> the directory before the one you are in
[22:16] <BunnyLust> or the one referenced
[22:16] <qin> blognewb: One step towart /
[22:16] <blognewb> qin one step above?
[22:16] <BunnyLust> also I think it may be something to do with video drivers or something
[22:16] <blognewb> ok
[22:17] <BunnyLust> because now avidemux doesn't appear to be able to read my video files correctly
[22:17] <blognewb> BunnyLust is there something with just one dot? ./folder
[22:17] <qin> blognewb: Yes, change to directory above current.
[22:17] <blognewb> ./ ../ .../
[22:18] <Polah> blognewb: . is current directory, .. is the directory above, there is no ... as far as I am aware
[22:18] <BunnyLust> so uh
[22:18] <BunnyLust> maybe updating to the latest version will help?
[22:18] <Polah> BunnyLust: What version are you on now?
[22:19] <BunnyLust> uhh
[22:19] <BunnyLust> let me check
[22:19] <blognewb> thank you polah
[22:19] <BunnyLust> 10.10
[22:19] <blognewb> oh he left
[22:20] <qin> blognewb: Try: cd /; pwd; cd ~; pwd; cd ..; pwd;
[22:20] <BunnyLust> maverick?
[22:20] <randomseed> bash: cd: .../: No such file or directory
[22:22] <blognewb> hey guys is there a nice opensource dreamweaver for ubuntu
[22:22] <savid> blognewb, vim ^_^
[22:23] <b3rz3rk3r> im pretty sure dreamweaver is a commercial product
[22:23] <toodida>  question: once you had the ubuntu one account setup....Can you upload your data/file from any computer/system or must strictly upload from only one system?
[22:23] <savid> blognewb,  http://alternativeto.net/
[22:23] <blognewb> savid thankyouuu
[22:24] <linux-beginner-h>  what is more secure? a cryptsetup XTS container or a symmetric encrypted tar.gz file with gnugpg? or maybe both in one?
[22:24] <b3rz3rk3r> toodida, its an account.. works like Dropbox does, if you have ever used that?
[22:24] <b3rz3rk3r> blognewb, can I PM you?
[22:25] <blognewb> b3rz3rk3r im a noob
[22:26] <zsu> blognewb: have you tried using wordpress?
[22:26] <julio> loooo
[22:26] <julio> alguien aqui?
[22:26] <toodida> well....I uploaded many files up to Ubuntu-One sharefolder from another system, there is nothing update at all
[22:27] <b3rz3rk3r> blognewb, check your private message (flashing window)
[22:27] <blognewb> zsu ?
[22:27] <b3rz3rk3r> toodida, have you logged into Ubuntu One correctly? It can take time to sync as well
[22:27] <zsu> ie, signing up for an account on wordpress.com and availing yourself of the tools therein.
[22:28] <blognewb> you guys yse aptana?
[22:29] <toodida> of course I was logging to UbuntuOne
[22:30] <toodida> do you mean that after uploading files from any system, you MUST sync? That meaning is uploading file/data can be any where any box? do I understand correctly?
[22:32] <b3rz3rk3r> toodida, are they any files on the web interface?
[22:33] <toodida> There was only the 1st file that I uploaded 2 days ago, but the recent ones
[22:34] <tracy_> Hello all I have a question
[22:35] <zsu> ask it.
[22:35] <tracy_> Can I run andriod app in ubuntu 11.04?
[22:38] <AlanBell> tracy_: not really, you can run it in a phone simulator in the android SDK, but I suspect that isn't what you are asking for
[22:38] <tracy_> Yes .. will I am looking for a police scanner app
[22:39] <shellcode> .
[22:39] <shellcode> i receving no sound
[22:39] <tracy_> thanks Alan
[22:41] <w0_> how do I make a keyboard shortcut in unity to run a single bash line?
[22:42] <shellcode> i have no sound
[22:42] <shellcode> no device in sound input
[22:43] <fm_> shellcode, you might want to look at alsamixer
[22:43] <w0_> maybe macro is the word  I should use .. I like to make a macro that would run one line of bash code .. preferably without showing bash.  anyone? much thx!
[22:43] <shellcode> install alsamixker
[22:43] <shellcode> ?
[22:45] <jen__> question
[22:45] <jen__> on my virtualbox, how do I get it to be full screen instead of in the center of my screen?
[22:46] <jen__> if its important, its windows XP virtualbox on natty nutwal
[22:46] <w0_> sorry I'm a dumb butt.  figured it out .. still not completely used to unity! =P
[22:46] <jen__> lol dumb butt
[22:47] <jen__> anyone?
[22:47] <jen__> or is everyone busy?
[22:48] <w0_> uhm
[22:48] <jen__> o.o
[22:48] <w0_> jen__ what OS do you run, and what OS are you trying to install?
[22:49] <w0_> (install IN vb that is)
[22:49] <cpglsn> night
[22:50] <camilleqco> i want to go from dual boot windows7/ubuntu to single boot
[22:50] <camilleqco> this makes it sound all so simple - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=bcf16f3bc7929b107a5e14e05d08294d&t=1455212&page=2
[22:50] <camilleqco> but i cant just delete the windows partition
[22:50] <jen__> okay im not trying to install anything
[22:51] <jen__> my virtualbox is not in full screen
[22:51] <camilleqco> and it wont let me unmount it other
[22:51] <jen__> and i want it to be
[22:51] <camilleqco> presumably because it is currently running?
[22:52] <shellcode> u gotta change your resolution
[22:52] <shellcode> if u want virtualbox to be full screen
[22:52] <w0_> jen__: hmmm.. what I'm trying to ask is what window are you wanting to be full screen?  winbloze? linux?
[22:53] <w0_> jen__: have you installed the 'guest additions' yet?
[22:53] <jen__> my windows XP VB
[22:53] <jen__> not ubuntu itself
[22:53] <w0_> jen__: what's your primary OS?
[22:53] <jen__> linux
[22:53] <w0_> awesome
[22:54] <jen__> yerp
[22:54] <ChoHag> Can you make ubuntu stop bitching whenever you call a script in /etc/init.d directly?
[22:54] <ChoHag> I've done it that way as long as I can remember, it works perfectly well and, most importantly, I don't fucking care.
[22:54] <w0_> jen__: yerp confused me. hahah have you installed guest additions yet?
[22:54] <jen__> guest additions?
[22:55] <jen__> no
[22:55] <Logan_> !language | ChoHag
[22:55] <w0_> chaching .. lemm get you a good link
[22:55] <MaxHeadRoom> Hello, I installed the slmodem driver fo my laptops winmodem (dialup), the modem is recognized, and seems to dial with gnomeppp but I get no carrier, any ideas to make it work?
[22:55] <ChoHag> Swearing is professional.
[22:56] <ChoHag> I work with Linux so I swear all the time.
[22:56] <jrib> ChoHag: /etc/init.d is deprecated, use the service script instead
[22:57] <ChoHag> Whoop-de-do.
[22:57] <ChoHag> It works. I don't care. I want to stop it complaining.
[22:57] <w0_> jen__: check this out -- www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html
[22:57] <jen__> i think i got it
[22:57] <jrib> ChoHag: well ubuntu is moving to upstart and init.d will die eventually, not sure what you are looking for.
[22:57] <w0_> jen__: I'd walk you through it but I gotta go to class
[22:57] <jen__> i have restart my VB first though, its glitching
[22:58] <w0_> cool ;)
[22:58] <jen__> thanks anyways
[22:58] <jen__> and...wink?
[22:58] <jen__> ._.
[22:59] <w0_> I'm pretending your name is jennifer.
[22:59] <w0_> hahah
[22:59] <ChoHag> I am looking for a flag which says "You are not my mum you are a computer. I know you're breaking this perfectly stable feature in the future now stop bitching because I don't do things the way you like."
[22:59] <urlin2u> ChoHag, what release are you running, and what are the complaints?
[22:59] <ChoHag> Computers should do what they're told, not tell me.
[22:59] <jen__> what on earth?
[22:59] <ChoHag> The one before Unity came out and ruined everything,
[22:59] <ChoHag> M I think.
[22:59] <ChoHag> Or is it N?
[23:00] <w0_> well hey all gotta jet.  keep linux cool!
[23:00] <Knuxgen> i really loved 11.04 interface
[23:00] <Knuxgen> i really don't like 11.10 interface
[23:01] <Knuxgen> first it looks like it tries to copy win, then mac
[23:01] <Knuxgen> but whatever, i'm very grateful for the system
[23:03] <oakman> how do i copy multiple files in a directory using  xfs_rtcp?  big reward
[23:04] <jrib> ChoHag: you get the warning because in fact the script you are trying to run is already an upstart script in /etc/init
[23:05] <jen__> grrr
[23:06] <jen__> its still doing it
[23:06] <micheal242424> sorry if this isnt the place to ask but can anyone help a total noob install the linux drivers for his asus wireless n pci card?
[23:08] <micheal242424> anyone willing to help its the native linux driver my commandline knowledge is just non existant
[23:09] <jen__> can someone help me make my virtualbox full screen?
[23:10] <jrib> jen__: #vbox
[23:11] <jen__> ?
[23:11] <jen__> what do you mean?
[23:12] <flodine> micheal242424 you mean you have no wireless
[23:12] <jen__> jrib, what do you mean?
[23:12] <jrib> jen__: ask in channel #vbox
[23:12] <jen__> ohhhh okay
[23:13] <micheal242424> currently im connected via ethernet asus has a official linux driver ive downloaded but have no clue how to use
[23:13] <jrib> !wireless | micheal242424
[23:13] <SpiderFred> anyone knows good cli calendar or todo manager that I can easily transfer and sync and more machines?
[23:16] <jen__> haha seems as if no one is there
[23:16] <micheal242424> the driver i got from asus was a .tgz i just have no idea how to install it and i need wireless...
[23:18] <SetiAmon> anyone here able to help me with sound in ubuntu
[23:20] <wyc> #smartass
[23:20] <SetiAmon> its very strange.music plays but is overlayed by staticy distortions.Sometimes like at the end before i stop it it will play perfect then echo on like distorted after i stop the sound
[23:20] <SetiAmon> I have a 20k1 x-fi soundcard
[23:20] <toddnine> SetiAmon: I had the same problem, have you tried killing whatever is using pcm?
[23:21] <toddnine> lsof |grep pcm
[23:21] <toddnine> then kill the process, that should restart the sound driver and hopefully fix your issue
[23:21] <micheal242424> can someone please help me out with installing the linux driver for my wireless i just dont know command line...
[23:21] <SetiAmon> toddnine how do i find out whats using pcm?I just installed linux after  2 years off so i need some help
[23:22] <toddnine> SetiAmon: See the next message "sudo lsof |grep pcm"
[23:26] <SetiAmon> pulseaudi 1737   setiamon  mem       CHR              116,6                6135 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[23:26] <SetiAmon> pulseaudi 1737   setiamon   33u      CHR              116,6      0t0       6135 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[23:26] <SetiAmon> plugin-co 5121   setiamon  mem       REG              252,1    27168    6558557 /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.so
[23:26] <SetiAmon> Thats the complete list
[23:26] <FloodBot1> SetiAmon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:26] <SetiAmon> flash player is using pcm but i am loading a youtube video to test my sound
[23:27] <KeNzi11> hi
[23:28] <KeNzi11> hello there
[23:28] <KeNzi11> any body here ?
[23:28] <KeNzi11> hi zimmer
[23:28] <htpc> sup all
[23:28] <KeNzi11> hi there
[23:28] <KeNzi11> welcome guys
[23:29] <zimmer> I recently restarted ubuntu and now when I boot up the screen is purple (later for a second it shows the loading screen) and neither the panels or dock show up on logging in
[23:29] <oakman> what is best OS to  do "XFS partitions/volumes"
[23:29] <htpc> quick question. Plantronics Voyager Pro+, paired & trusted, set as a2dp device but not seen at alsa/pulse
[23:29] <schultza> ok i know this is more like a homework question, but I'm stumped... I'm to find the display the 2nd occurrence of a pattern... what command am I suppose to be looking at?
[23:29] <schultza> is it something like >> grep /pattern/ | sed -n '2'?
[23:30] <KeNzi11> lol, I dont even know what you are talkin about
[23:30] <SIFTU> schultza: ask in #sed or #awk
[23:31] <schultza> SIFTU: thanks.
[23:31] <hexacode> i created several symbolic links...where can i go to view them? and how do i remove some?
[23:31] <krister> Hi! Im planning to set up a NAS do it exist any known software packing to do this easy? With gui and so on?
[23:31] <zimmer> anyone know my problem basically the desktop enviroment doesn't show wether it is the new or old gui
[23:31] <KeNzi11> zimmer
[23:32] <oakman> what is best OS to  do "XFS partitions/volumes"
[23:32] <KeNzi11> I think I know whats the problem
[23:32] <zimmer> yay :-)
[23:32] <htpc> oakman any livecd + gparted
[23:32] <SIFTU> krister: check out openfiler or freenas
[23:32] <krister> SIFTU: thank u. But isnt that dedicated distros?
[23:32] <SIFTU> oakman: any linux distro has XFS support, some maybe newer than others
[23:33] <KeNzi11> zimmer, log out and befor you log back in u chose your login screen from the bottom of the screen and choose ubuntu
[23:33] <KeNzi11> it will work
[23:33] <SIFTU> krister: yeah.. i see you want just a gui.. I'm not sure of any
[23:33] <KeNzi11> +i
[23:33] <zimmer> KeNzi11: kind of (that is what I am doing now)... there is still no panel or "dock" but I can say press WIN+T to get terminal
[23:33] <htpc> ubuntu + bluetooth headset anybody ?
[23:34] <SIFTU> krister: not sure if webmin can do what you want
[23:34] <KeNzi11> Zimmer, you need to log out what I told you to do you need to do it in the login screen, before you even log in
[23:34] <zimmer> ok...
[23:34] <krister> SIFTU: ok thank u, i will look in to it :)
[23:35] <KeNzi11> did you set your root PW or did u use it b4 ?
[23:35] <dratonx> Can anyone tell me where I can go to get a bug fix for the "reuse slide" function in Microsoft PowerPoint 2007 running under wine?
[23:36] <SIFTU> dratonx: try winehq.org
[23:36] <sam555> how does one untar a .tar.xz file?  Apprently ubuntu netbook os doesn't have the ability
[23:36] <dratonx> ok cheers bro
[23:37] <SIFTU> sam555: did you try tar xvvf <file>
[23:39] <quint> when i connect to ssh and execute a gui i get "cannot connect to x server"
[23:39] <SIFTU> quint: do you have a GUI installed on the remote server.. or at least the libs
[23:39] <shellcode> im getting no sound
[23:39] <quint> yes, i am able to do this via xming/putty on a windows machine
[23:40] <shellcode> i reinstal the os and nothing
[23:40] <zimmer> Still no desktop enviroment just window manager and icons on desktop but no panel and no loading screen on boot up
[23:40] <SIFTU> quint: does your /etc/ssh/sshd_config allow X forwarding, and are you connecting with the
[23:40] <SIFTU> quint: ssh -X option
[23:40] <quint> yes
[23:40] <quint> lower case x
[23:40] <islam> guys
[23:40] <islam> is there any other rooms ?
[23:40] <jrib> quint: according to ssh man page: -x      Disables X11 forwarding
[23:41] <zimmer> islam: like for different languages
[23:41] <quint> oh.
[23:41] <quint> had that backwards
[23:41] <SIFTU> quint: well thats your problem
[23:41] <quint> oops :P
[23:41] <islam> zimmer, its me KeNzi11
[23:41] <zimmer> ok
[23:41] <islam> I'm new to the IRC
[23:41] <quint> thanks for the help though
[23:41] <islam> specially on the terminal
[23:41] <zimmer> ok...
[23:41] <quint> appreciate it :)
[23:42] <islam> I'm trying to learn more
[23:42] <islam> and if there any real chat
[23:42] <zimmer> I would just say google things you want to learn
[23:42] <zimmer> and now
[23:42] <SIFTU> islam: also youtube
[23:42] <oakman> what is best OS to  do "XFS partitions/volumes"
[23:43] <SIFTU> oakman: I already answered that
[23:43] <islam> I tried and thats how I'm here, but I dont know if there any more things to do here
[23:43] <oakman> oh
[23:44] <SIFTU> oakman: any distro has XFS support.. some may have newer older versions.. depends on what you are after
[23:44] <oakman> siftu you said "ANY"  i just used opensuse and even doing xfs copying it froze
[23:44] <Islam> by the way guys I tried to connect through a diffrent link and I came here again !
[23:44] <Islam> I dont understand tha
[23:45] <Islam> that
[23:45] <Islam> first time I connected through irc.freenode.org
[23:45] <Islam> and now I'm connected through irc.ubuntu.com
[23:45] <Islam> and through the 2 of them I'm still here !
[23:45] <shellcode> u are in the network
[23:46] <shellcode> of freenode but the channel is ubuntu
[23:46] <SIFTU> oakman: well I cant help you with that sorry
[23:46] <Islam> nope
[23:46] <Islam> not the channel
[23:46] <shellcode> im not asking u,im telling u
[23:46] <rww> Islam: irc.ubuntu.com is an alias for chat.freenode.net, just like irc.freenode.org is
[23:46] <X_> :)
[23:46] <quint> okay, so i changed the option to -X and i am able to enter my password for the remote machine. my wireless disconnects immediately after attempting to authenticate with the remote machine
[23:47] <shellcode> u want to join a different network???
[23:47] <Islam> ahaaa, thanx rww
[23:47] <Islam> yeah
[23:47] <Islam> I wanna try any thing diffrent thats all
[23:47] <shellcode> what network
[23:47] <shellcode> u want to get into??
[23:47] <Islam> I've no Idea lol
[23:47] <Islam> I'm noop lol
[23:48] <Islam> ok I've another q if I may ask, #ubuntu is a room here, is there any other rooms, and how am I supposed to know them ?
[23:48] <quint> after entering my password for a remote machine via ssh -X my wireless immediately disconnects
[23:49] <qin> Islam: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:49] <Islam> ok I've another q if I may ask, #ubuntu is a room here, is there any other rooms, and how am I supposed to know them ?
[23:49] <Islam> aha
[23:49] <SIFTU> Islam: try /list
[23:49] <qin> !alis | Islam
[23:49] <Islam> wow, you are the greatst guys
[23:50] <tensorpudding> Islam: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[23:50] <Islam> thanx mate
[23:50] <qin> SIFTU: hehe
[23:50] <tensorpudding> Islam: a list of all ubuntu-related channels
[23:50] <SIFTU> qin: :)
[23:51] <quint> is anyone able to help me out?
[23:51] <SIFTU> quint: it doesnt sound related.. I have never seen wireless disconnect establishing ssh.. check /var/log/auth.log on both systems
[23:52] <sam555> how does one untar this http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Networking/NetworkManager-openvpn-43340.shtml
[23:52] <SIFTU> sam555: why would you install it from tere
[23:52] <SIFTU> there
[23:53] <zimmer> Ok I tried to manually start gnome-panel and the computer freezes, then I try reinstalling gnome-panel (after hard reboot) and still broken... what do I try now?
[23:53] <sam555> SIFTU: I've downloaded the program as a .tar.xz, but don't know the command to untar it
[23:53] <qin> !resetpanel | zimmer
[23:54] <zimmer> ok
[23:54] <sam555> SIFTU: this http://www.pendrivelinux.com/how-to-open-a-tar-file-in-unix-or- did not work
[23:54] <zimmer> hey it works now :-) thanks
[23:54] <SIFTU> sam555: tar xvvf worked for me http://dl.dropbox.com/u/906920/screenshots/screenshot-20110921165420.jpeg
[23:55] <Islam> I love terminal
[23:55] <zimmer> why didn't reinstalling gnome-panel fix that?
[23:55] <htpc> hi all can anybody help me with my bluetooth headset ?
[23:55] <qin> zimmer: Reinstall to not reach configs if you wont purge first.
[23:55] <qin> *do
[23:55] <nuclearworm> hello , i would like to install ubuntu on an usb pen drive however
[23:56] <zimmer> oh ok
[23:56] <SIFTU> sam555: do you have xz installed?
[23:57] <qin> nuclearworm: unetbootin (from any OS) or, usb-creator-gtk (?) from Ubuntu.
[23:57] <htpc> there is unetbootin version for ubu
[23:58] <qin> htpc: Yes, in repos.
[23:58] <SIFTU> htpc: yeah I think ubunut comes under "as OS"
[23:58] <SIFTU> *any OS too
[23:58] <nuclearworm> hello , i would like to install ubuntu on an usb pen drive, however my old computer boot  only fat16 partitioned usb pen drive. is there a way to solve this issue?
[23:58] <sam555> SIFTU: no, ok, so that's what I need. Thank you.
[23:58] <Nickel> i'm relatively new to ubuntu, installed it on my laptop a week ago, and i'm in love with it, anyone want to tell me some packages that they recommend? or tweaks i should do, etc ?
[23:59] <htpc> SIFTU my bad im sleepy enough so i've accidentally read "any other" my bad