[02:17] <jo-erlend> nice! Desktopcouch works again :)
[08:30] <JamesTait> Morning all!
[09:00] <rye> mornings!
[09:40] <rye> Directory browsing is broken at the moment on the web ui, we are aware of this issue
[09:41] <rye> same on edge
[10:41] <j0nr_> hey ho... does copying files into UbuntuOne directory via commandline (i.e. cp) work?
[10:41] <j0nr_> or does it have to be via GUI?
[10:48] <karni> j0nr: It does work. U1 does not care if you paste it with mouse or cp
[10:53] <j0nr> cool
[10:54] <ralsina> morning!
[10:59] <j0nr> can I start the daemon remotely via ssh? if I try u1sdtool --start it looks like it is erroring about X11...
[11:00] <j0nr> does this mean it is running?:
[11:00] <j0nr> ps aux | grep ubuntu
[11:00] <j0nr> jonr      1715  1.0  3.6 130036 37364 ?        Sl   Sep20   9:04 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon
[11:18] <karni> j0nr: you're talking about headless ubuntuone? That's a very different question.
[11:18] <karni> I'm not sure what's are the possibilities for headless u1.
[11:27] <j0nr> karni: not headless, just accessing my home computer remotely, so only have ssh access
[11:29] <karni> j0nr: I see
[12:36] <gatox> ralsina, ping
[12:36] <ralsina> gatox: pong
[12:36] <gatox> ralsina, good morning, how are you?
[12:36] <ralsina> gatox: fine, but with my kid at home because he was sick last night, so I don't know how much I will be able to work
[12:36] <gatox> ralsina, oops.... ok....
[12:37] <gatox> ralsina, i'm fighting with the .ico........ i tested several things... but, the problem seems to be with png2ico or windows... because the .ico file looks ugly, is not related to u1
[12:37] <ralsina> ok, we can build the ico using something else, surely
[12:37] <gatox> ralsina, i'm trying to generate the ico with something else to test if the problem is in the program or in windows
[12:37] <ralsina> we could even try just putting one lare icon in the .ico
[12:37] <ralsina> large icon
[12:38] <gatox> ralsina, yes, because the program will scale it....
[12:38] <ralsina> right
[12:38] <ralsina> just put a 128x128 and see what happens
[12:38] <gatox> ralsina, yep
[12:40] <gatox> ralsina, looks ugly...... let me try with another program
[12:40] <ralsina> ok
[12:42] <gatox> ralsina, i was able to generate a .ico that looks really nice with gimp... i will try to put it in the installer now and look how it is resized
[12:43] <ralsina> cool
[12:50] <ralsina> gatox, dobey, alecu: standup in 10'
[12:50] <gatox> ralsina, ok
[12:52] <ralsina> gatox: you have a MSDN, right?
[12:53] <gatox> ralsina, mmmmmmmmm nop....
[12:53] <ralsina> gatox: ok
[13:00] <gatox> me
[13:01] <ralsina> me
[13:02]  * ralsina is about to start calling all developers phones 5 minutes before standup
[13:02] <gatox> ralsina, i think today there isn't much people around :P
[13:02] <ralsina> mandel is on a plane, I think, nessita is on vacation, noone else has excuses ;-)
[13:02] <dobey> meh
[13:02] <gatox> right
[13:02] <ralsina> thanks dobey!
[13:02] <ralsina> gatox: go
[13:03] <gatox> DONE:
[13:03] <gatox> Learn how to generate the installer. Some work with application icon.
[13:03] <gatox> TODO:
[13:03] <gatox> Keep fighting with application icon and another UI bugs.
[13:03] <gatox> BLOCKED:
[13:03] <gatox> No
[13:03] <gatox> ralsina, go
[13:03] <ralsina> DONE: reviews, proposed a branch for notif. icon, lots of IRL, mgmt call, lots of bug triaging
[13:03] <ralsina> TODO: more of the same, start packaging
[13:03] <dobey> λ DONE: fixed #791736, some gtk3/twisted debugging/hacking
[13:03] <dobey> λ TODO: bug #854754, bug #851187
[13:03] <dobey> λ BLCK: None.
[13:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 854754 in ubuntuone-client-gnome (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Share dialog has extremely small contact selection widget (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/854754
[13:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 851187 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Progress bar does not appear on launcher (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851187
[13:03] <ralsina> BLOCKED: no
[13:03] <ralsina> dobey: precocious
[13:03] <dobey> doh
[13:03] <alecu> holla
[13:03] <ralsina> alecu, go!
[13:04] <dobey> ralsina: you switched from single line mode! cheater.
[13:04] <ralsina> dobey: I was typing it :-)
[13:04] <ralsina> dobey: also, shows you don't actually *read* standups ;-)
[13:04] <dobey> i'm not a manager :)
[13:05] <dobey> also, knowing everyone else on my team is working on windows, doesn't really help me much :)
[13:05] <ralsina> dobey: standups are not just for managers. They are also a way for peers to know what the rest of the team is doing, and offer/ask assistance
[13:05] <ralsina> dobey: then there is that ;-)
[13:05] <dobey> and launchpad spams me with mail for bug/branch changes
[13:06] <ralsina> dobey: yes, there has been a lot of churning these last few days. It should settle eventually
[13:06] <ralsina> dobey: do you have access to the canonistack tarmac? It seems to be stuck
[13:06] <gatox> ralsina, the icon looks ok, if it doesn't contain several png insides... but, once it is resized begin to looks ugly... i think that maybe we can choose the most common size and make the .ico in that size... to ensure that is going to be pretty in *most* cases...
[13:06] <ralsina> and sidnei is not here yet
[13:07] <ralsina> gatox: make it look pretty on 7
[13:07] <ralsina> I think that's 64x64 or maybe 48x48
[13:07] <alecu> DONE: made syncdaemon run IRL when the clock is wrong, with a storage-protocol branch for review; found a few more places to fix like this
[13:07] <alecu> TODO: finish sso branch with this fix, work on control panel and sd webcalls (create shares, public files)
[13:07] <alecu> BLOCKED: it's more work than anticipated
[13:07] <alecu> NOTE: happy spring!
[13:07] <gatox> ralsina, yes, i will try with those
[13:08] <gatox> ralsina, really bad management of icons on windows...
[13:08] <alecu> ralsina, so, mandel should be 4 hours on his first flight already
[13:08] <ralsina> alecu: I think so, yes
[13:09] <ralsina> alecu: take it easy on the clock/oauth, I am dropping it from tomorrow's release. Do it right, and aim for next week's
[13:10] <ralsina> alecu: also, could you check if I did the right diagnosis on bug #855513
[13:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 855513 in ubuntuone-client "unexpected keyword argument 'n_bytes_read' (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/855513
[13:10] <alecu> ralsina, ok. I'm already trying to do it right, because I know it's sensitive
[13:10] <dobey> ralsina: i do
[13:10] <ralsina> alecu: yes, I am just taking away the time pressure ;-)
[13:10] <ralsina> dobey: could you take a quick look? We have a few branches waiting to merge
[13:11] <dobey> well, i did, before the instance apparently died :)
[13:11] <ralsina> dobey: that explains it ;-)
[13:11] <dobey> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[13:11] <ralsina> So, it's "wait for sidnei's puppet" time!
[13:13] <alecu> ralsina, from what I see, it seems that the above bug will happen on linux too
[13:13] <dobey> ralsina: when did windows get symlinks?
[13:14] <ralsina> alecu: I thought it was that the windows notification stub lacked arguments
[13:14] <ralsina> dobey: they have .lnk files
[13:14] <ralsina> dobey: except for they not working from CMD, it's the same concept
[13:15] <dobey> it's the same concept if symlinks on unix were .desktop files
[13:15] <alecu> ralsina, hmm... it will be safely ignored, but we won't see detailed progress on downloads
[13:16] <ralsina> dobey: it serves the same purpose.
[13:17] <ralsina> alecu: ok, so let's queue that one up for linux too
[13:17] <dobey> my truck also serves as a key for locked gates, but just because i can open those gates, doesn't mean i drive around smashing through gates to unlock them :)
[13:18] <ralsina> dobey: that's just because the zombiecalypse is not here yet. How about "for a regular windows user, a .lnk serves the same purpose as a symlink serves for a regular linux user"?
[13:20] <dobey> i have to disagree. a) i see zombies everywhere i go, and b) "Confucious say, do not use cannon, to kill mosquito."
[13:23] <dobey> wtf? how is bug #855419 even possible?
[13:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 855419 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "Multiple instances of ubuntuone-syncdeamon are running, extremly slowing down system (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/855419
[13:24] <ralsina> dobey: it's weird and unusual
[13:24] <ralsina> my guess is, his dbus session is broked beynd belief
[13:27] <dobey> hrmm
[13:27] <dobey> ralsina: will the ssl certs in ubuntuone-storage-protocol having unix line endings break on windows?
[13:28] <ralsina> nope
[13:28] <ralsina> I mean, I don't know
[13:28] <ralsina> I would be surprised if it broke because of that, though
[13:29] <dobey> can we test that?
[13:29] <ralsina> sure
[13:29] <ralsina> let me convert mine
[13:29] <dobey> well, the new openssl apparently broke because they have DOS line endings :)
[13:32] <ralsina> dobey: one of the certs was DOS the other was UNIX
[13:32] <ralsina> dobey: the original certs usually have unix EOLs
[13:32] <ralsina> dobey: that's why it would surprise me if it broke :-)
[13:34] <dobey> hmm, ok
[13:34] <ralsina> seems to work ok
[13:34] <ralsina> I converted them to unix EOLs and was able to login
[13:34] <dobey> ok
[13:34] <ralsina> starting sync now to see if that's ok too
[13:36] <dobey> yeah, syncdaemon is the big one. i don't think control panel/sso/wahtever uses them
[13:37] <dobey> although given that one of the certs is already unix EOLs, i suppose it does work
[13:37] <dobey> or syncdaemon just hasn't worked on windows ever :)
[13:38] <gatox> ralsina, i have 2 branches that are not landing... and they have commit message.... do you know what can be happening?
[13:38] <dobey> gatox: tarmac died
[13:38] <gatox> dobey, ahhhh jeje ok
[14:10] <gatox> ralsina, SSO is not working for me..... ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/694472/ ), i'm going to try to restore the vm to see if i broke something
[14:10] <ralsina> gatox: no, don't
[14:10] <ralsina> gatox: that's because you never ran the installer
[14:11] <gatox> ralsina, ahhh ok...... i'll do that and then uninnstall it
[14:11] <ralsina> it sets two keys in the registry, with the paths and command lines for SSO and syncdaemon
[14:11] <ralsina> if you uninstall the keys go away :_)
[14:11] <gatox> ralsina, ahhhhhhhh okok...... thanks!
[14:11] <ralsina> just run it and then ignore it :-)
[15:07] <dobey> lunch; bbiab
[15:21] <ralsina_> alecu_: I could really use a second review here: https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntuone-windows-installer/no-icon-without-arguments/+merge/76129
[15:21] <alecu_> ralsina_, sure
[15:21] <ralsina_> alecu_: thanks
[15:22] <ralsina_> Argh, I am going to kick manuel's ass tomorrow
[15:22] <ralsina_> i set a needsfixing on his branch yesterday morning, and no comment from him whatsoever
[15:27] <ralsina_> blah, I'll put a try/catch on the release code. CRAP
[15:31] <ralsina_> gatox: do you have the large icon png handy?
[15:36] <gatox> ralsina_, yes
[15:36] <gatox> ralsina_, let me upload it
[15:36] <ralsina_> gatox: thx
[15:38] <gatox> ralsina_, this one is the .ico in 256: http://ubuntuone.com/01MQHJolJVT2XF7TeWf6Gm
[15:38] <gatox> ralsina_, and this is the png: http://ubuntuone.com/2nmlUPxNgzqctuOhV7NW9x
[15:44] <gatox> ralsina_, ping
[15:44] <ralsina_> gatox: pong
[15:44] <gatox> ralsina_, i'm looking at this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-windows-installer/+bug/845737
[15:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 845737 in ubuntuone-windows-installer "When entering email to reset password, errors are not highlighted (affects: 1) (heat: 22)" [Medium,In progress]
[15:44] <ralsina_> right
[15:44] <gatox> ralsina_, which shows the error in the top of the window like this: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/79437286/error-not-highlighted%20.png
[15:45] <ralsina_> right
[15:45] <gatox> ralsina_, it says that is not highlighted... but i also think that the error should appear at the bottom of the window as everything else...
[15:45] <gatox> it's a really easy fix
[15:45] <gatox> but i wanted to check with you
[15:45] <ralsina_> go ahead then
[15:45] <gatox> ralsina_, thx
[15:45] <ralsina_> but how many branches do you have "in progress" right now?
[15:46] <gatox> ralsina_, 8....... this is one of them...... and 2 are waiting for tarmac to go live again to merge that branches
[15:46] <ralsina_> that's waaaay too many. But anyway, I have to stop for lunch, so, go ahead, we'll talk and prioritise when I come back
[15:47] <gatox> ralsina_, okok
[16:55] <ralsina> alecu, gatox, did you see the failing merges?
[16:55] <gatox> ralsina, nop
[16:55] <ralsina> gatox: ok, you have one ;-)
[16:55] <gatox> ::S
[16:55] <ralsina> gatox: lp:~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-sso-client/834152
[16:56]  * gatox looking...
[16:56] <gatox> wowwww...... what happend there.......
[16:56] <alecu_> ralsina, I did not
[16:56] <alecu_> ralsina, btw: I've approved your icon branch
[16:56] <ralsina> alecu_: it's the sso branch
[16:57] <ralsina> alecu_: saw it, thanks!
[16:58] <alecu_> doh, a pylint issue! dumb me.
[16:59]  * alecu_ will fix that after moving the bed, desk and chairs to the office.
[16:59]  * ralsina has let down the spirit of nessita by not pylint-checking before approving. Seppuku is required.
[17:04] <ralsina_> Seppuku suspended because I couldn't find the katana unit test.
[17:10] <gatox> ralsina_, i need a review please: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-sso-client/reset845737/+merge/76452
[17:11] <ralsina_> gatox: looking
[17:12] <ralsina_> gatox: that's the reset password page?
[17:12] <gatox> ralsina_, the name of the branch is wrong...... is forgotten password page really
[17:12] <ralsina_> ack
[17:16] <ralsina_> gatox: it works and everything, but it breaks at least one test in ubuntuone-windows-installer
[17:16] <ralsina_> specifically: ubuntuone_installer.gui.qt.tests.test_gui.MainWindowTestCase.test_forgotten_password_controller_error
[17:16] <ralsina_> So you will have to do a small branch on -installer too
[17:16] <gatox> ralsina_, on installer?? ok, on it!
[17:16] <ralsina_> gatox: here's the pastebin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/694613/
[17:17]  * gatox fixing...
[17:18] <ralsina_> gatox: confirmes that works against sso trunk. So you seem to have changed some bit of API
[17:18] <gatox> yeo
[17:18] <gatox> yep
[17:19] <ralsina_> if you could keep the API the same instead of doing a fix n -installer it may be saner
[17:19] <dobey> oh wow, sunlight
[17:23] <ralsina_> alecu: after the unicode-usernames branch lands, could you ask gatox to do an installer and pass it onto elopio so he can test it on his brazillian XP?
[17:24] <ralsina_> I want to be sure that bug is really gone, and the SSO logs end in the right place
[17:30] <dobey> meh
[17:30] <ralsina_> mooo
[17:31] <elopio> windows installation will complete in approximately 33 minutes. That's saying since approximately 34 minutes.
[17:32] <elopio> I just hope it's enough to set it on portuguese, and not to download the portuguese installer.
[17:32] <dobey> so it seems this issue likely won't be fixable for another 6 months :(
[17:32] <ralsina_> elopio: I suspect it's not enough, but let's try it :-(
[17:33] <ralsina_> elopio: in any case, create a user called something like "çáéñ" and that should have the same effect
[17:33] <elopio> ralsina_, that should have been easier :)
[17:34] <elopio> anyway, I'll leave the download during lunch, so we have the image if required again.
[17:34] <ralsina_> elopio: cool. We probably will. On Windows_pt the system folders are non-ascii. And I know no other windows with that "feature" and a language I kinda can read :-)
[17:35] <elopio> btw, I have access to a lot of downloads through msdn , in case you need something. My prices are cheap.
[17:37] <gatox> ralsina_, sorry....... should i made an installer for elopio ?
[17:37] <ralsina_> gatox: after alecu's unicode name branches land
[17:37] <gatox> ralsina_, ok
[17:37]  * ralsina_ is delegating!
[17:53] <gatox> ralsina_, re-review: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-sso-client/834152/+merge/76026
[17:59] <ralsina_> gatox: on it!
[18:02] <ralsina_> gatox: set to approved again
[18:02] <gatox> ralsina_, ok
[18:06] <ralsina_> I have to go babysit now, mail me review requests if needed, will be back in one hour
[19:13] <jo-erlend> if the Ubuntu One folder is always synced, that means it'll automatically be recreated as soon as I log into U1, right?
[19:13] <jo-erlend> I don't want to sync everything, but I would like to keep all the synced stuff in one hierarchy. Any ideas how to achieve that without having two different Ubuntu One folders?
[19:14] <dobey> uhm; that depends on what ou mean exactly by 'recreated'
[19:14] <dobey> you simple disconnected and deleted it?
[19:14] <dobey> jo-erlend: we don't sync symlinks; so you could put the stuff you don't want somewhere else, and symlink to it i guess
[19:15] <jo-erlend> I haven't done that yet, because I have several gigabytes of data that I don't want to up and download lots of times as an experiment.
[19:15] <dobey> but that will break/work differently, if we ever sync symlinks
[19:17] <jo-erlend> I'm a musician and I store my projects in ~/Music. I have 150GB of data there, and I don't want to store that on U1. But I also have other music in ~/Music that I do want to sync, and I do want them to be available in ~/Music on the other computers. I also don't want a very large list of folders to select when adding a new computer.
[19:23] <jo-erlend> because if I choose to sync ~/Music/Nellie_McKay and ~/Music/The_Doors, then they will get their own top-level folders on U1, right?
[19:25] <dobey> yes
[19:26] <dobey> jo-erlend: if you don't want to sync your project files, maybe move them to ~/Music Projects/ or something instead, that isn't synced?
[19:31] <jo-erlend> yes, that works. But I might want to sync Nellie McKay on all my computers, but not Frank Sinatra, for instance. Then that would become two different hierarchies.
[19:32] <jo-erlend> something like ~/Synced Music/ and
[19:32] <jo-erlend> ~/Unsynced Music/
[19:32] <jo-erlend> that's not elegant, to say the least.
[19:35] <j0nr> hey.... ok, so I drag a folder to another U1 synced folder and it starts syncing. Before it finishes I change my mind and pull it back out... what happens??
[19:36] <j0nr> The folder I pulled back out still looks like it is trying to sync
[19:36] <j0nr> and something is uploading
[19:39] <j0nr> ok maybe its not uploading... but it still has the 'refresh' sync in progress symbol on the folder
[19:42] <ralsina> j0nr: eventually, everything in the folder will be removed from the server
[19:42] <ralsina> j0nr: at least that's what's supposed to happen
[19:46] <j0nr> ralsina: but would it have to all upload if i removed it before it finished uploading?
[19:47] <ralsina> j0nr: no, it should finish whatever file it was uploading then start deleting. More or less.
[19:47] <dobey> jo-erlend: i can't think of any solution to that, which would be elegant, really; if you *actually* want to sync only some of your music library
[19:47] <j0nr> something seems to have got it stuck. the U1 panel says sync in progress, but theres nothing uploading
[19:50] <jo-erlend> dobey, I do. I would like my music to be available, but I might not want to stay connected for weeks before my favorite music became available.
[19:50] <jo-erlend> I wish synced folders would retain their parents. That would solve the whole thing.
[19:51] <dobey> jo-erlend: move everything out of the way temporarily; make an empty folder ~/Music; synchronize it; add only your favorite music; wait for it to sync; add everything else
[19:51] <jo-erlend> dobey, what does that mean?
[19:51] <dobey> what does "retain their parents" mean?
[19:52] <dobey> jo-erlend: it means your "favorite" music will sync first, and you will have all your music synced after
[19:52] <jo-erlend> let's say I'm spending the weekend at my fathers house. So I get an account at his desktop and I log onto my u1 account so I can listen to some music. I now have to either download 50GB of music in order to listen to one album, or use the web interface and download files one by one.
[19:52] <dobey> or get music streaming, and just stream the songs
[19:54] <jo-erlend> is there any chance that Ubuntu one will support filesystem hierarchies in the near future? A flat structure like this is very difficult to deal with.
[19:55] <j0nr> dobey: are yoiu referring to the Android app? Is there a desktop ap to stream music?
[20:00] <jo-erlend> it's not really a problem for me to copy and paste directories as I need them, but it does mean deleting and redownloading those directories on all my computers each time. It's currently impossible for me to sync my music folder to my laptop since it has a small SSD.
[20:00] <dobey> jo-erlend: what did you mean by "retain parents"?
[20:01] <jo-erlend> dobey, that ~/Music/Nellie_McKay should be synced as ~/Music/Nellie_McKay and not as Nellie_McKay
[20:01] <dobey> i think it is
[20:02] <dobey> am pretty well sure it is, in fact
[20:02] <dobey> and easy enough to test
[20:02] <dobey> mkdir -p foo/bar; synchronize foo/bar, go to other computer and subscribe to foo/bar
[20:05] <j0nr> once a new music file is uploaded, how before I could expect to see it in U1 music on android
[20:06] <dobey> j0nr: between 0 and infinity seconds
[20:06] <j0nr> heh ok.
[20:07] <dobey> j0nr: if it's on the server already i'd guess it should show up pretty soon
[20:07] <dobey> beuno: ^^ how often do new files get scanned?
[20:07] <j0nr> hmmmmmmm
[20:07] <ralsina> gatox: ping
[20:08] <j0nr> following u1sdtool --current and uploads seem to be restarting?
[20:09] <dobey> hrmm, my sd is "waiting for connection to end" :(
[20:09] <jo-erlend> dobey, ah, it just took some time before I was notified that I could get those directories. Thanks.
[20:10] <dobey> jo-erlend: mind, syncing all those directories will get you lots of folders in the subscribe list, that you will have to individually subscribe to on each machine
[20:11] <jo-erlend> dobey, yes, but it's far quicker than manually creating the folders and downloading file by file, and certainly _much_ faster than downloading everything, even if that was possible.
[20:12] <dobey> jo-erlend: well, as i said before; you could just subscribe to music streaming, and you wouldn't have to bother with either of those; you could just pick which songs you want to listen to in the streaming app
[20:12] <jo-erlend> I don't know how to do that.
[20:12] <jo-erlend> where can I get it?
[20:13] <dobey> https://one.ubuntu.com/services/music/
[20:13] <jo-erlend> and does it allow to play offline? Because I pay 4 euros per megabyte when I'm on the laptop away from home
[20:13] <jo-erlend> oh, I thought that was only for Android and iOS.
[20:13] <dobey> yes it does; the android/iphone apps have caching
[20:14] <dobey> well, android does have an emulator thing that runs on linux, so you could use it on a real computer too
[20:14] <jo-erlend> I don't want to install Android on my laptop. I want to keep using Ubuntu.
[20:14] <gatox> ralsina, pong
[20:14] <ralsina> gatox: on https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-windows-installer/forgotten845737/+merge/76462
[20:15] <ralsina> gatox: why are you removing the overlay.hide?
[20:15] <dobey> i'm not suggesting not using ubuntu; just saying it is possible to run the android app on top of ubuntu
[20:15] <jo-erlend> oh, I didn't know that was possible.
[20:15] <gatox> ralsina, because now the overlay is executed always in the critical method (before that method wasn't called), so it is no longer neceessary there, and it was called twice
[20:16] <ralsina> ok, +1 then
[20:16] <gatox> :D
[20:16] <ralsina> gatox: but considering the time, I don't think any more branches are getting in this package
[20:16] <dobey> jo-erlend: a bit complex, but definitely possible
[20:17] <ralsina> unless you can get a review from alec-u and I do the build late at night
[20:17] <dobey> jo-erlend: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Run-Android-Applications-on-Ubuntu-115152.shtml
[20:17] <gatox> alecu, are you free  for a review?
[20:17] <gatox> :P
[20:17] <alecu> gatox, always for you, mister
[20:17] <jo-erlend> dobey, but if I only sync those albums I want to have everywhere, that'll only be a few dozens. Except for the UI in the client, is that a problem?
[20:17] <gatox> alecu, that's the spirit!
[20:18] <beuno> dobey, fairly instanty
[20:18] <jo-erlend> I mean, I'm completely fine with having to check the boxes for each album on each computer.
[20:18] <dobey> j0nr: ^^ "fairly instantly" it is :)
[20:18] <gatox> alecu, https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-sso-client/reset845737/+merge/76452  -  https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-windows-installer/forgotten845737/+merge/76462
[20:18] <beuno> dobey, 5 minutes wouldn't surprise me, there's a 4 minute cache
[20:18] <gatox> ralsina, is the sso branch ok?? i saw you just approve the installer one
[20:18] <dobey> beuno: cool, thanks
[20:18] <ralsina> gatox: have not checked that one yet
[20:18] <gatox> ralsina, ok
[20:19] <dobey> jo-erlend: you can do that; i'm just making suggestions that might be easier for you in the long run.
[20:19] <ralsina> alecu: how is the lint fix for the sso unicode-usernames branch going?
[20:20] <alecu> ralsina, uh, I totally forgot about that. I pushed and was waiting for launchpad to rescan. Let me set it to approved again.
[20:20] <ralsina> alecu: ack
[20:21] <ralsina> because after that we still have to merge the other one :-)
[20:21] <alecu> done.
[20:21] <ralsina> gatox: approved the sso branch, but I feel I am doing crappy reviews today, I hardly slept last night :-(
[20:23] <gatox> ralsina, wow :S .... well you'll have a few days to relax and change the air at pycon
[20:24] <ralsina> gatox: puking kids wake me up, what can I say.
[20:24] <gatox> jejeje
[20:26] <jo-erlend> dobey, ok. I guess I'll figure it out somehow. If I now make ~/Music synced and move all files from ~/Ubuntu One/Music over to ~/Music, will that cause me to have to download everything again, or will it handle that properly?
[20:29] <dobey> i don't think that will result in more downloads; moving files out should result in them being "deleted" on the server in that location; you might want to copy, then delete after everything gets synced though, instead of straight move; if you have the available space in your quota
[20:36]  * alecu will be offline for 10minutes, moving the router around
[20:49] <dobey> have a good evening all
[20:50] <jo-erlend> dobey, it did upload :(
[20:54] <ralsina> bye dobey!
[20:54] <alecu> ralsina, gatox: I need to run to pick up amelia because her mother needs to do some errands
[20:54] <ralsina> alecu: ok
[20:54] <alecu> gatox, I'll finish the review in an hour or so.
[20:54] <gatox> alecu, ack
[20:54] <gatox> alecu, np
[20:55] <ralsina> ok, then I will stop for a couple of hours so I can start putting the binaries together after that
[21:39] <alecu> gatox, double approval!
[21:39] <gatox> alecu, awesome! thanks
[21:39] <gatox> :D
[21:39] <alecu> gatox, I've already set to "approved" the sso branch
[21:40] <gatox> alecu, thanks!
[21:40] <alecu> gatox, should we wait for it to land before setting approval on the installer branch?
[21:40] <gatox> alecu, no need
[21:40] <alecu> gatox, cool, then I'm setting the second branch to approved too.
[21:40] <alecu> now, let's see about my branches pending land...
[21:41] <gatox> alecu, are you anxious about BG game?? jeje
[21:45] <ralsina> alecu: ping
[21:46] <ralsina> alecu: I am not sure how far away the oauth branch is but, ahem, there is not as much time as I had in my mind
[21:46] <ralsina> alecu: basically, we need it to be ready by monday noon or so
[21:46] <ralsina> alecu: do you think it can be done tomorrow?
[21:47] <alecu> ralsina, I'll try
[21:47] <ralsina> alecu: cool, that's as much as I can ask for :-)
[21:47] <alecu> ralsina, I still have some work hours today ahead
[21:47] <alecu> ralsina, also, I'm not coming on monday :P
[21:47] <ralsina> alecu: I know, that's why I ask for it for tomorrow :-)
[21:48] <alecu> ralsina, right. It's that or it's working on friday night, and letting gatox play BSG without me.
[21:48] <ralsina> haha
[21:48] <alecu> ralsina, and I would not let that happen!
[21:48] <ralsina> can I join the BG match? ;-)
[21:49] <gatox> jeje
[21:49] <alecu> ralsina, sure!
[21:49] <gatox> awesome!
[21:50] <alecu> ralsina, then I think we are almost full... it's a 5 or 6 player game I think, and facundo already reserved spot.
[21:50] <ralsina> ok
[21:50] <ralsina> I can also not play if someone with more boardgame experience wants to jin
[21:50] <ralsina> join
[21:50] <alecu> oh, and x-ip as well
[21:50] <ralsina> I suspect I will be dead busy doing my saturday talk on friday night
[21:50] <alecu> ralsina, it's a diplomacy and backstabbing game, so no board game experience needed.
[21:51] <ralsina> Oh, I am good at diplomacy and backstabbing
[21:51]  * ralsina brings his backstabbing knifes to Junin
[21:51]  * alecu remembers he needs to finish his friday morning talk :P
[21:51] <alecu> ouch
[21:51] <ralsina> I have to start my friday talk, too
[21:51] <ralsina> and my lightning
[21:51] <alecu> hahahah
[21:51] <gatox> alecu, i have to finish one of my friday talks too......
[21:51] <ralsina> and think about the panel
[21:51] <gatox> we're very responsable
[21:51] <gatox> jeejje
[21:51] <alecu> ok, I'm grabbing a bite, then I'll keep working too.
[21:52] <ralsina> we are busy people
[21:52] <alecu> gatox, it's the windows port!
[21:52] <gatox> of course!
[21:52] <alecu> it's sucking our life away!
[21:52] <gatox> jejjee
[21:52]  * ralsina is taking a shower, and then probably building binaries
[21:52] <ralsina> and tomorrow up at 5:30 to push the signing RT
[21:52] <ralsina> and then all over again on monday/tuesday
[21:53] <ralsina> but I am not doing all the bug triaging next wednesday dudes ;-)
[21:53] <alecu> damn
[21:53] <alecu> tarmac is not picking the latest sso version: https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntuone-client/unicode-usernames/+merge/76145
[21:54] <alecu> I'll try again.
[21:54] <alecu> damn
[21:55] <alecu> It won't pick it up, it probably gets it from the nightlies.
[21:55] <alecu> ralsina, houston
[21:56] <alecu> ralsina, my -client branch depends on the changes on the -sso branch
[21:56] <alecu> ralsina, and it seems tarmac is not picking those -sso changes when running the tests for -client
[21:57] <alecu> ralsina, my guess is tarmac is using -sso from packages.
[21:57] <alecu> probably nightlies
[21:58] <toodida>  I just set up Ubuntu one with a shared folder, how to make a friend to download file from my share folder? Do he need an account?
[21:58] <toodida> is there someone experience with ubuntu one setup?
[21:58] <ralsina> alecu: ping sidnei quckly
[21:58] <ralsina> alecu: if that doesn't work, I will have to merge them manually
[21:59] <ralsina> in the release, I mean
[21:59] <ralsina> toodida: you can publish the file (and anyone with the URL can get it), or yes, he needs to create an account
[21:59] <alecu> ralsina, there's no sidnei around :-(
[22:02] <toodida> got that ralsina.....yesterday, I uploaded 6 files in the shared folder, but Ubuntu One did not show or update any file.....is there a bug or something wrong?
[22:03] <toodida> ralsina,,,,,another question: once you had the ubuntu one account setup....Can you upload your data/file from any computer/system or must strictly upload from only one system?
[22:05] <toodida> are U still around ralsina?
[22:24] <elopio> this windows world is so not funny. There is no unicode characters on brazilian portuguese version. It has "Meus documentos".
[22:25] <elopio> ralsina, I created a user with a unicode name. Please let me know if that will do, or if should I look for another weird language.
[22:28] <toodida> elopio....do you want another LANG in mozilla/firefox or in another Application?
[22:30] <elopio> toodida, I wanted a weird character in the path to the user documents and settings. Not related to the language.
[22:32] <toodida> then you should look at the application of the Doc Property to if there are fonts/Chars.....What kind of this Doc App?
[22:33] <elopio> toodida, about your question, you will be able to synchronize files from and to any device connected to your account.
[22:33] <elopio> I didn't understand what you have just said.
[22:34] <alecu> toodida, re: your question above: you should be able to upload from any system
[22:34] <toodida> can you explain clearer what you try to accomplish?
[22:35] <alecu> elopio, ditto.
[22:36] <toodida> alecu, yes I've done it, but more than 24 hrs....those files were not updated, not land into the folder....does it mean that I have to SYNC after uploading?
[22:37] <elopio> toodida, I'm not trying to accomplish anything. Just doing some tests on the windows client, and I was complaining because I hate windows. That's it :)
[22:37] <alecu> elopio, lol on the "meus documentos". You should be able to create a weirdly named folder as a sibling of that folder, and make a UDF out of it.
[22:37] <alecu> elopio, it should work as well for the purposes of these tests
[22:38] <alecu> toodida, you should not have to sync after uploading, no.\
[22:38] <alecu> toodida, it should happen automatically.
[22:38] <ralsina> elopio: we are having trouble merging the branches to test that, so don't worry, you can test it tomorrow before the release
[22:38] <toodida> alecu, then why there is none of the file upload? is there a bug of Ubuntu One?
[22:38] <alecu> toodida, if you try uploading "new" files thru the web (one.ubuntu.com), are they downloaded to the "Ubuntu One" folder?
[22:38] <elopio> alecu, that sounds good too. I'll try with that and a weird name. But your branch is refusing to land anyway.
[22:39] <alecu> elopio, yup, it's still refusing to land :-(
[22:40] <elopio> ralsina, sure. Using the weird name and the weird sibling of meus documentos seems like a good test. I'll be pending on the new installer to verify it.
[22:40] <toodida> alecu, I did try to upload it from one.ubuntu.com, during the upload there is no error at all....but nothing in the folder!
[22:40] <ralsina> elopio: ack
[22:41] <alecu> toodida, sorry, I don't understand what you mean. Do you mean "upload it *to* one.ubuntu.com"?
[22:41] <toodida> yes, alecu
[22:41] <alecu> toodida, and that file shows up on the folder on the web?
[22:42] <toodida> nup
[22:42] <toodida> that what I meant
[22:42] <toodida> looks like U miss understood my question earlier Alecu
[22:42] <toodida> do you actual use Ubuntu One?
[22:43] <toodida> Alecu?
[22:43] <alecu> toodida, that's very weird, I've never seen anything like that.
[22:43] <alecu> toodida, yup, I work on it.
[22:43] <toodida> well....look like you don't have experience yet....just start learning?
[22:44] <elopio> jeje. Funny guy.
[22:44] <elopio> toodida, so, you are trying to upload a file to a shared folder using the website, right?
[22:45] <elopio> have you tried reloading the page and opening the folder again?
[22:45] <alecu> toodida, no, it's been a year and a half. But I'm not a native english speaker, so I sometimes have trouble understanding some people
[22:45] <toodida> correct elopio
[22:46] <toodida> how long have U been using UbuntuOne, alecu?
[22:46] <alecu> toodida, more than two years. What about you?
[22:46] <toodida> just 2 days
[22:46] <elopio> toodida, have you tried reloading the page and opening the folder again?
[22:51] <toodida> elopio/alecu.....nothing showed even refresh the page!
[22:51] <elopio> toodida, is weird. I have just tried to do it and I got my files uploaded. There is a small issue with the reload, though.
[22:52] <elopio> toodida, can you give me the steps to reproduce your problem?
[22:52] <elopio> perhaps I'm doing something different.
[22:58] <toodida> elopio: here is the basic step: 1) login to your ID + pwd at one.ubuntu.com -- 2) under Files -> upload file: select it and it open a browser for the user to select file to upload --3) after select the specific file, choose open , then it starts to upload..--4) the upload processing shows the blue/green bar on the screen until it disappear without error....That's it...The user supposes to see the file in the share folder.....Why
[22:58] <toodida> don't you try to reproduce it and let me know?
[22:59] <toodida> I think Ubuntu One QA Engineer failed to test this basic feature!
[23:00] <toodida> it's just a baby toy --- non professional tool
[23:00] <toodida> it's a crab
[23:00] <elopio> toodida, jeje, you are right. I'm a QA Engineer and I failed to test that :)
[23:00] <elopio> I'm sorry.
[23:01] <toodida> well what does the QA lead to release it?
[23:01] <elopio> but I did what you said. And then refreshed the page, and the file is uploaded. I'm reporting the bug about the refresh.
[23:01] <elopio> toodida, it's kinda complex, but we are working on improving the process so this things don't happen again.
[23:01] <toodida> can you allow me to take a look of your shared folder, elopio?
[23:02] <elopio> toodida, sure. What's your email?
[23:03] <toodida> ok elopio, toodida@gmail.com
[23:04] <elopio> toodida, shared.
[23:04] <toodida> It's so glad to know you are the QA Eng.....do U think it allows to upload the entire folder or multiple files at one?
[23:06] <elopio> toodida, I think I haven't fully understood your question.
[23:07] <elopio> from your computer, if you move an entire folder to your Ubuntu One folder, it will upload the entire folder contents, one file at a time.
[23:09] <elopio> toodida, your issue #855973, in case you want to subscribe to follow the status.
[23:09] <elopio> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+bug/855973
[23:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 855973 in ubuntuone-servers "uploaded files are not shown (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,New]
[23:09] <toodida> ok....but if you are travel and using different system, but you already had the entire folder, can you do the same?
[23:10] <toodida> Thanks for the bug ID.
[23:10] <jamesw> hello, how can i synchronize another folder other than the Ubuntu One folder?
[23:10] <elopio> toodida, still don't understand. If you are in another system, and connect to your ubuntu one account, it will download all the files you have uploaded.
[23:10] <jamesw> the context menu item doesn't seem to work
[23:10] <elopio> and they will be kept synchronized.
[23:11] <toodida> got it and Thx elopio
[23:11] <elopio> jamesw, what operating system are you using?
[23:11] <jamesw> natty
[23:12] <elopio> jamesw, let me update and check.
[23:12] <jamesw> i am trying to synchronize a folder in .Private but it is completely ignored
[23:13] <toodida> elopio, one more basic question for you: How did you send the share folder to friend to access just like you just send a "test" folder to me?
[23:13] <elopio> toodida, from the website, theres a link "More" next to your browser. Open it, click share and enter your friend's address.
[23:14] <elopio> toodida, or you can do that from nautilus too.
[23:16] <toodida> ok....elopio....let's me test it and send it to you to see if you can get it...can you let me know you email pls?
[23:20] <elopio> toodida, test5@elopio.net
[23:24] <toodida> ok...elopio....can you confirm whether you can see a mp3 file in there? it
[23:24] <toodida> it's pretty slow, elopio
[23:25] <elopio> toodida, it depends on your upload speed.
[23:26] <elopio> I haven't received any share notification yet.
[23:26] <toodida> elopio, this file is only 21mb, but still load the email to you....more than 1.3 mins
[23:27] <toodida> hmm....still load....sorry for the slowness
[23:30] <toodida> do you receive it yet elopio?
[23:55] <elopio> jamesw, sorry for the delay. I don't have nautilus integration either. Will investigate...
[23:56] <jamesw> i have the integration
[23:56] <jamesw> i tell it to synchronize and it doesn't give any feedback and the folder does not appear in the u1 control panel
[23:58] <elopio> ah, I found my integration.
[23:58] <elopio> jamesw, I could synchronize a folder outside ubuntu one. And I see it on the panel and on the website.
[23:59] <elopio> do you have any other issues? can you adding a file to the ubuntu one folder and check for it on the website?