=== eeejay is now known as eeejay_is_afk [01:13] desrt: I had [01:14] jbicha: there? [01:15] cyphermox: howdy [01:15] hey :) [01:15] jbicha: so you tried the Autostart condition? what did you use for a condition? [01:16] I just used AutostartCondition=GNOME3 unless-session gnome in /etc/xdg/autostart/nm-applet.desktop [01:31] ok... I'll need to look that up [01:34] ah, I see mterry mentioned it in an email before to u-d [01:34] amazing :D [01:34] * cyphermox logs out to test [01:45] jbicha: yup, seems to be covering all cases [02:18] I've got a heck of a question. [02:20] Is there currently a way to install gnome 3 on Lucid? [02:21] That's unlikely to be a particularly fruitful endevour. Why do you want to? [02:22] I just wanted to try it out. Something different I guess. [02:23] I tried gnome-shell and thought it was pretty cool so I wanted to see if I could install the whole environment [02:23] I'd try a livecd, I think. [02:23] What distro is on the live cd? [02:23] Or, rather, a liveUSB, with persistence. [02:23] ben_: Ubuntu 11.10 is the first release to officially support GNOME 3 and it's a very easy install to get GNOME Shell there [02:24] there's a PPA for 11.04 that might work, but trying on Lucid is probably not worth the effort [02:25] it'll more or less break your Classic desktop since indicators don't work with gnome-panel 3 yet [02:25] Which DE have you guys been working with on your setup? [02:27] Oh I see. It's opensuse [04:17] Good morning [04:23] Morning pitti. [04:31] jbicha: oh, caribou got rejected, did you get an email why? [04:31] pitti: we rejected it because Debian made changes yesterday that they wanted included [04:31] ah, ok [04:32] I updated my branch, but bigon has another bug he plans to look at today before we upload again [04:32] jbicha: and then we'll just sync instead? [04:33] jbicha: I made a small fix to the copyright file [04:33] pitti: no because it looks like caribou won't build with GNOME 3.0 so I don't think it'll be pushed to experimental soon [04:33] we fixed the copyright file too [04:38] pitti: hi [04:38] pitti: I am waiting for a freeze exception to be cleared before merging a patch in Unity 2D [04:38] hey Kaleo, how are you? [04:38] pitti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-2d/+bug/654988 [04:38] Ubuntu bug 654988 in unity-2d "Unity doesn't mirror its interface for RTL locales." [Medium,In progress] [04:38] pitti: very good, thanks [04:38] pitti: I am afraid I might have missed a step in the process of the freeze exception [04:39] pitti: basically I don't know where to look for an answer about it (acceptance or not) [04:39] pitti: it's also really early in the morning so my brain is slow too :) [04:39] Kaleo: hm, given how old this issue already is, it seems a bit risky to introduce that past beta-2? we are in rather deep freeze now [04:40] Kaleo: there hasn't been any recent comment to this bug which would trigger RT attention [04:40] pitti: I understand, I am confident that the patch won't introduce regressions for LTR languages [04:40] it was opened in January or so [04:40] pitti: yeah, I see [04:40] Kaleo: right, I mean for RTL - it's quite a disruption there? [04:40] pitti: yes, though I think a very welcome one [04:41] pitti: code wise it's fairly minimal since we are using Qt/QML's infrastructure for it [04:41] Kaleo: if I understand right, this will mirror RTL on Unity 2d but not for Unity 3D, that might be enough reason to wait... [04:41] jbicha: that's correct [04:42] that', too [04:42] jbicha: on the other hand we have other deltas such as a big a11y delta between 2D and 3D already [04:42] jbicha: meaning that if we always have to wait for the other version before fixing one version it can get tricky [04:42] jbicha: though in this case it is a fairly big difference visually for RTL [04:44] do you think it's possible to merge it tentatively? that is, to merge it and give it a week in the distro and revert it if there are significant issues? [04:44] (it has been tested over a couple of weeks by mardy and myself) [04:44] Kaleo: I'd be more comfortable if this could be put into a PPA with a big call for testing, and some responses from RTL users [04:44] so I guess the question is whether it's enough of a bug for RTL users that they won't mind that Unity 3D works so differently [04:45] and the consistency issue is a rather bad blocker for this as well [04:45] pitti: can totally do a ppa [04:45] Kaleo: perhaps you can add the feature, and turn it off by default, and document a way to enable it? [04:45] pitti: hmmm that's a good idea [04:45] Kaleo: then this could even land in the distro, and the call for testing would be easier [04:45] pitti: that's the best idea! [04:45] pitti: so it is off by default the way it's done [04:45] and for people who want it they would at least have a way to use it [04:45] and for P we then turn it on for both 2d and 3d? [04:45] pitti: it is activated when a certain string is set in the translation [04:46] oh, a single, e. g. Hebrew, string is enough to enable it? [04:46] pitti: yes [04:46] shouldn't it look at your locale rather? [04:46] but well, maybe that's the right thing, I'm not sure [04:46] pitti: I am no expert in the domain, maybe [04:46] pitti: mardy may know better [04:47] pitti: but in our case it's a good thing :) [04:47] jbicha: do you think the idea is good? [04:49] Kaleo: shipping it disabled by default won't cause any problems and it's definitely something that should be fixed for P [04:49] is that RTL translation string thing standard for Qt? [04:51] jbicha: i would need to check with mardy [04:54] Kaleo: ah, found the documentation, looks like you need to add a line for the translators to have something to translate [04:54] http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qml-righttoleft.html#default-layout-direction [04:56] jbicha: right thats what we do [04:57] thanks a lot guys [04:58] pitti: thank you [04:58] nice [04:59] it looked like you just checked whether the value was set but didn't provide the string for translators to use [04:59] it's cool that RTL is built in to QML like that :) [05:00] jbicha: thats correct; lets merge it and do a call for testing with instructions how to do that [05:40] good morning [05:44] RAOF, what sets the default X keyboard layout? [05:45] udev attributes [05:45] is it ubiquity? [05:45] RAOF, but udev can't possibly know the layout right [05:45] console-setup and X.org set it from /etc/default/keybaord [05:46] ubiquity/d-i write that file, yes [05:46] Ah, right. You're after policy, not mechanism :) [05:46] RAOF, thanks [05:46] good morning didrocks, robert_ancell, pitti, RAOF [05:47] pitti, thanks too [05:47] hey rickspencer3 [05:47] beta2 today? What's the word on the street? [05:47] Morning rickspencer3! How's your laptop going? [05:47] hi RAOF except for my zompbie nvidia chip, it works perfectly [05:48] hey rickspencer3 [05:48] taking me a bit to adapt to the next keyboard, which is not helped that it's a French keyboard and I'm using a US mapping [05:48] rickspencer3: you really brought an azerty layout laptop? :-) [05:48] didrocks, yes I did [05:48] :-) [05:49] nice, you are on the right way ;) [05:49] hah [05:49] I wish [05:49] And you look at the keys? :) This is a German keyboard, and it's fine for me :) [05:49] time to break the keyboard layout switcher ;) [05:49] pitti, how does Beta 2 look? [05:49] rickspencer3: after many respins it's now behaving [05:49] didrocks, nah, I don't much look at the keys, but it's still a different size and all [05:50] pitti, were the respins mostly those ubiquity bugs, or were there other things going on? [05:50] like the ca-certs thing [05:50] rickspencer3: mostly ubiquity, but the ca-certificates one was nasty, too [05:51] pitti, do you still have to be connected to the network to run Ubiquity? [05:54] rickspencer3: no, that was fixed (reason for two respins) [05:54] ah good [05:54] that was quite annoying [05:54] pitti, I guess the gsd thing was fixed while ev was in there? [05:54] * rickspencer3 did 2 installs 2 nights ago [06:13] rickspencer3: yeah, I debugged it last morning, and then we got it in quickly [06:14] sweet [06:14] I am *loving* LightDM [06:14] the new greeter looks so good [06:15] and it's so snappy [06:17] GDM 3.2 feels like GNOME Shell so it probably would have been a huge headache to try to Ubuntu-ify it [06:23] bah, package updates become hard to do now; we need to unfreeze [06:26] but versions.html considering UNAPPROVED greatly helps [06:27] hey jbicha! [06:28] pitti: hmm, I thought we're staying frozen until the end [06:28] micahg: until it's 100% sure that we aren't going to respin [06:28] I think that's some point during the day [06:28] pitti: no, I thought until final release [06:29] uh, for three weeks? [06:29] yep [06:29] I thougth we only did that between RC and final [06:29] * micahg too, until I was reminded of last cycle... [06:30] pitti: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/09/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t15:55 [06:31] micahg: ah, thanks [06:31] micahg: I wasn't in last week's release meeting, so that escaped me [06:31] yeah, the idea was kicked around in -release earlier last week [06:31] that'll require a lot of handholding from the release team [06:32] Hm. That's what I assumed would be happening anyway. [06:33] pitti: we actually don't have an RC this cycle, so kinda makes sense [06:39] jbicha: oh, you can't upload g-shell? [06:40] ah, universe, I guess [06:40] * pitti will sponsor your branches [06:42] pitti: gnome-shell won't build though until we add caribou [06:42] jbicha: did you test the shell build? [06:42] jbicha: the new configure.ac has [06:42] +PKG_CHECK_MODULES(BROWSER_PLUGIN, gio-2.0 >= $GIO_MIN_VERSION json-glib-1.0 >= 0.13.2) [06:42] jbicha: but there is no json-glib-dev build dep [06:44] I wasn't sure how to pbuilder it since I needed new versions of packages [06:45] jbicha: I usually check a configure.ac diff between the old and new versions to see bumps and new build deps [06:47] I think I finally have a reliable reproducer for that annoying z-order stacking bug in Unity [06:47] 2 days after it's been fixed, I think :/ [06:47] anyway, the recovery dialog from LO seems to trigger it [06:47] jbicha: so, I'll just add libjson-glib-dev after the merge, ok? or do you want to do it in your branch? [06:48] jbicha: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Packaging/Training/Logs/2009-04-16 [06:48] rickspencer3: questions I was asking you before you quit, you have the compiz ppa version isn't it? [06:48] didrocks, no [06:49] this is an fresh install from 2 nights ago [06:49] rickspencer3: there is a compiz uploaded on the ppa which should fix stacking issues [06:49] pitti: it looks like mutter pulls in clutter which pulls in libjson-glib-dev [06:49] didrocks, do you want me to try it? [06:49] rickspencer3: compiz and c-p-m, seems to fix major issues [06:49] rickspencer3: yes please [06:49] jbicha: ah, ok; but I'll add it anyway, safer [06:49] pitti: ok, no problem [06:49] didrocks, what's the url for the ppa? [06:49] rickspencer3: as those are very intrusive changes, we pend the tests between multiples people while we were frozen [06:50] rickspencer3: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa [06:51] rickspencer3: What z-order bug are you thinking of? The one where the focused window isn't raised to the top of the stacking order? [06:53] RAOF, it's where the alt-tab strip and the dash and the launcher appear under windows on the desktop [06:53] Oh, _that_ one. [06:53] I just found that it starts after the LO recovery dialog first appears [06:54] I think the fix for that might have broken my alt-tab, but no one else seems to be able to reproduce. [06:54] didrocks, after I add the PPA do I have to reinstall unity, or will a dist-upgrade just do it? [06:55] rickspencer3: even just an upgrade should work [06:55] rickspencer3: this will bring you others packages though [06:55] like a speedy g-s-d [06:55] and fixed Qt 4.7.4 for vlc and some other apps [06:55] didrocks, urk, I'm getting a 404 from the ppa :/ [06:55] on apt-get update? [06:55] yes [06:56] I can reach it from there [06:56] I just ran update and got a 404 from main too! [06:56] pitti: can you sync anjuta-extras from sid? the version in oneiric conflicts with our anjuta [06:56] jbicha: doesn't seem to be on any image, sure [06:56] rickspencer3: seems you are more in trouble then, do you have Internet on that box? (is it the one you have IRC?) [06:56] didrocks, yes :) [06:56] it's only main and the desktop PPA that are giving me a 404 [06:57] GRAGHoughheuu splutter splutter. Having focus not return to the previously focused window in a group drives me crazy. [06:57] rickspencer3: for main, french or main archives? [06:57] didrocks, I'm sure there are some temporary server side issues, I'll try again in a bit [06:57] rickspencer3: fr.archive or archive [06:57] rickspencer3: yeah, let's pend that to a later try [06:57] didrocks, no, I switched to archive because the fr were often not working for me [06:58] what, fr always works ;-) [06:58] on strike too often [06:58] on archives strike were scheduled :p [06:58] pitti: that's soooooooo easy! [06:58] maybe I was always trying between noon and 2pm? [06:59] roh, come on! :-) [07:00] rickspencer3: if you go to descent cities like Lyon, most of shops aren't closed between noon and 2pm :-) [07:00] didrocks, I like it here, that they take things easy [07:00] and the grocery store and bakery near us stay opened [07:00] so, not really complaining [07:01] rickspencer3: indeed, that the big advantage of where you live, life is cooler I guess :) [07:01] (same in the very south of France) [07:01] indeed [07:01] most people are relaxed and friendly here [07:01] more so then in Seattle, for sure [07:02] you won't find that in Paris :-) (I would tell Lyon is average, between Paris and Toulouse, but less relaxed than Toulouse) [07:02] except on Sunday morning when there is a line at the bakery and you don't understand what they are asking you when they won't to know what specific type of criossant you want [07:02] in these cases, they are less relaxed [07:04] ahah, you should just point with your finger like "euh… euh… I want that" [07:05] rickspencer3: you should know that a "baguette" has as well different naming depending on which city you live [07:05] jbicha: done [07:06] didrocks, hmmm, fortunately they understand me when I say "baguette" here [07:06] then I don't understand them when they try to clarify which of the 5 types I want [07:06] but then they understand me when I point and say "set baguette" [07:07] rickspencer3: just ask for the regular one, it's the best :) "baguette tradition" is just a trap to pay it at a higher cost for no real additional value ;) [07:07] didrocks, I like the ones covered in salt sometimes :) [07:07] and they are the same .80 euro price [07:07] Bring your own salt? [07:07] with salt? not flour? [07:08] I imagine Rick can tell the difference between salt and flour :) [07:08] pitti: I wonder if we should just upload caribou, it might cause problems if people update to mutter without also upgrading to the corresponding gshell [07:09] RAOF, indeed, as I told seb128, the first thing I sorted out was how to get food [07:09] salt on top of a baguette, never saw that :) sounds healthy :) [07:09] Most correct! [07:10] didrocks, and then it's deep fried. [07:10] bryceh: of course! mostly needed :-) [07:10] Urgh. Could indicator-datetime-service kindly not spam DBus, causing compiz to be terribly unresponsive? [07:11] RAOF: at least, now, you can click on the calendar and change the month! [07:11] OH WOW! [07:11] I hadn't noticed that it now works. Awesome! [07:11] RAOF: yeah, after 5 months! you can have calendar again :-) [07:12] RAOF: more seriously, on the spammy datetime, tedg discussed about it, but he has no solution right now [07:12] didrocks, oh yay! That's been bugging me for ages [07:12] robert_ancell: yeah, I totally rejoice when I saw that being released :) [07:13] didrocks: Does he know what's going wrong? It really really degrades any interaction with unity. [07:13] didrocks: nice! finally I can stop using cal(1) [07:13] mvo: ahah, you were using it as well? was my only way when I needed a calendar ;) [07:14] Who is looking after the network-manager-applet package these days? I have a packaging bug to file, but I need to talk about it with a human first. [07:14] RAOF: yeah, he knows about it, I don't have the detail in memory, but I'll try to reping him later today [07:14] mvo: hey, you're fast! awesome :-D [07:14] didrocks: same here. I have the new oneconf now and everythng is working perfectly. I get diffs and the new machine shows up almost instantly, really really nice [07:14] mvo: so which one of the structs members should I use? [07:14] kamstrup: you did all the hard work, so that was easy :) [07:14] mvo: \o/ what a change compared to the desktopcouch version! :-) [07:15] kamstrup: depends on what you need, ratings average (the first) if you need to do the filtering. but sort the sorting I would recommend the last one [07:15] mvo: I'm really eager to integrate ubiquity next cycle and all what we can do with that, crossing fingers ;) [07:15] mvo: ok, i'll try with the first one and then experiment a little, thanks! [07:15] kamstrup: we basicly use http://www.evanmiller.org/how-not-to-sort-by-average-rating.html for the sorting to avoid that the 1x5 star app floats on top [07:16] kamstrup: that is the last member of the struct [07:16] didrocks: yeah, that is going to be awsome, especially with the "keep-home" feature [07:17] indeed, you just keep home and you can reinstall all your apps in a breeze :) [07:17] yes [07:17] * mvo hugs didrocks [07:17] mvo: btw, thinking about it, do you think it will be hard to add a new renderer for the gtktree (AppStore2) to add in the categories "install all"/"remove all" [07:17] * didrocks hugs mvo [07:18] kamstrup: please tell me if everything works as expected, if so I will merge and upload after the freeze [07:18] mvo: not sure it can still enters oneiric… but at least for p [07:18] good morning everyone [07:18] didrocks: I don't think it will be very hard, but everything is a bit hard with the gtk.TreeView [07:18] hey chrisccoulson [07:18] hi mvo, how are you? [07:19] sleepy, but otherwise good. and you? [07:19] mvo: yeah, I'll try to have a look for that for P. Apart from that and an easy way to remove a computer from the list on don't have anymore, I don't see anything else for usc itself right now [07:19] * mvo nods [07:20] mvo epic quote "I don't think it will be very hard, but everything is a bit hard with the gtk.TreeView" [07:21] pitti, hey, do you know if seb128 is in today? [07:21] kamstrup: well, that's not that untrue with treeview :) [07:22] heh :) [07:22] robert_ancell: he should be [07:22] didrocks: not only "not untrue", but painstakingly true! [07:22] pitti, good morning [07:23] hey ricotz [07:23] mvo: how do I trink it to dump a db? [07:23] kamstrup: I think we should make pain and stacking synonyms now :-) [07:23] lol [07:23] pitti, i noticed some uploads to the queue which might be uploaded after an clutter/cogl upload [07:24] kamstrup: just get the branch and run s-c from it once (via ./software-center) and it should appear a couple of seconds later [07:24] pitti, http://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/clutter/ [07:24] pitti, ok, good. I have a unity-greeter which is in the upload queue, can you have a look at that. There's a lightdm release pushed to bzr, but I'd like seb128 to take a look over it today before uploading and we need to resolved bug 845549 before release. Can you also look at it and see if it's ok to upload pending that fix? [07:24] Launchpad bug 845549 in lightdm "Do not ship /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/845549 [07:24] mvo: thanks, i see it now :-) I was just running ./run_local.sh thinking I was a l337 haxor [07:26] hey [07:26] salut seb128 [07:27] robert_ancell: summoning powers! [07:27] lut didrocks [07:27] hey pitti robert_ancell [07:27] ricotz: you need these sponsored? [07:27] pitti, how are you? [07:27] seb128: quite fine, thanks! [07:27] kamstrup: heh :) [07:28] what's the beta2 status? [07:28] hey mvo [07:28] arrived late, but seems ok now [07:28] pitti, yes, but they should be built and published before gnome-games, g-s, mutter [07:28] ricotz: why, did these forget to bump their build dependencies? [07:28] hey seb128! [07:28] and cheese [07:28] ricotz: or does the new clutter change ABI? [07:28] pitti, no, cogl bump its soname [07:29] mvo: can you add the libdb version to the db path name? [07:29] pitti, clutter is stable, but cogl is also in their rdepends [07:30] kamstrup: sure, I will do that, I have a call now, I will do it right after that [07:30] mvo: you have db.DB_VERSION_{MAJOR,MINOR} [07:30] mvo: sure [07:33] pitti, was the summoning powers for me joining? robert_ancell looking for me? [07:33] seb128: yes, robert_ancell asked for you [07:33] robert_ancell, hello! [07:33] seb128, hey. I think I've got all the issues you had fixed, it's just bug 845549 blocking the release to B2 now [07:33] Launchpad bug 845549 in lightdm "Do not ship /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/845549 [07:34] robert_ancell, well it's too late by a week for beta2, we are frozen since friday [07:35] seb128, I was hoping to ask the release team nicely :) [07:35] robert_ancell, that's a packaging change though, I would just undo your additional binary and not block 0.9.8 on it [07:35] we can fix that bug in -0ubuntu2 [07:35] seb128, ok, I'll do that [07:35] robert_ancell, well, you can but beta2 is supposed to be today and I doubt they will respin isos for lightdm and restart the testing from 0 [07:36] oh, is that already started? I thought that started tonight [07:36] robert_ancell, btw did you get an ecryptfs login issue as well? [07:36] ok, np, it can all be post b2 [07:36] yes [07:36] robert_ancell, no, beta2 is supposed to be out tonight :p [07:36] robert_ancell, i.e validated and published, isos started being rolled on monday [07:37] robert_ancell, you really need an ecryptfs testcase ;-) [07:37] or to convert your main user to it :p [07:37] seb128, yes, but I can't test it in the regression tests [07:37] stupid PAM is a pita [07:37] ok [07:38] robert_ancell, well in any case imho you should roll back the fix for bug #845549 and wait for the patch to use alternatives [07:38] Launchpad bug 845549 in lightdm "Do not ship /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/845549 [07:38] then you can upload 0.9.8 [07:38] ricotz: mutter is already accepted, BTW [07:38] ricotz: so we might need another upload for that and bump build deps? [07:38] I will grab it from the queue if you upload today still, otherwise will do a trunk build for testing [07:39] robert_ancell, what bugs are still on your list for oneiric? getting close now ;-) [07:39] I have 8 I'm tracking now [07:39] pitti, a simple rebuild will do, the required versions hasnt change, just to pick up the new lib [07:39] robert_ancell, do you tag those or milestone them or something which makes easy to see the list for me? [07:40] seb128, should I just use the ubuntu 11.10 milestone? [07:40] robert_ancell, works for me [07:40] robert_ancell, btw you probably need a ffe bug for 0.9.8 [07:41] since you added the language selector [07:41] it will probably be easy to get an ack since it's optional on a greeter we don't use by default (but that some derivatives use) [07:42] morning [07:42] seb128, ok, all tagged and assigned to me [07:42] robert_ancell, thanks [07:43] later all [07:44] robert_ancell, 'night [07:46] oh, jbicha doing updates in Debian now ;-) [07:47] jbicha, hey, I noticed that you have a pitivi ffe bug waiting for a comment from you [07:47] jbicha, i.e pitti asked some question a week ago and you didn't reply [07:47] hey rodrigo_, how are you? [07:47] hi seb128 [07:47] hey rodrigo_ [07:48] hi pitti [07:48] ricotz: oh, cogl ABI bump -- that requires an FFE [07:48] hmm, did someone do libgnomekbd update? [07:48] rodrigo_: yes, in unapproved [07:48] ah ok [07:49] I marked it on the pad, didn't I? [07:49] and it's green on versions.html [07:49] yeah [07:49] pitti, not sure cogl broke ABI, they just decide to keep going for the unstable cycle and bump the soname for the stable [07:50] seb128: well, it's a library transition, with some rdepends, so we shoudl have a bug for trackign the transition now [07:50] well, soname bump is an abi break I guess [07:50] pitti, right [07:50] quadrapassel, mutter, cheese, champlain, gnome-shell, AFAICS [07:50] pitti, I just wanted to say that the transition should be easy, they didn't break api [07:51] but agreed, that seem some tracking [07:51] seb128, pitti, they moved some stuff to there experimental api, so nothing was actually removed, but yeah it is an break [07:51] pitti, btw davidz did an api change in gdbus-codegen, we should track it as well [07:52] pitti, seb128, but it doesnt break/ftbfs any of its depends [07:52] ricotz: right [07:53] ricotz: it's fine, but please file an FFE bug anyway, so that we can add the tasks needed for rebuild, etc. [07:53] ok [07:53] ricotz: both uploaded, thanks! [07:55] pitti, thanks [07:57] hey [07:57] pitti, ricotz I've some trouble with how in caribou the gtk module is loaded [08:00] rodrigo_: re: the System Info Checking for Updates bug, line 1880ish doesn't look right to me [08:00] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-control-center/tree/panels/info/cc-info-panel.c#n1856 [08:00] jbicha, looking [08:01] I think the Xsession script is not needed as there is a .desktop file that is installed in gnome-setting-daemon that seems to load it already [08:01] rodrigo_: just a guess, I'm not much of a C coder nor do I understand what parts of PK Ubuntu has by default [08:02] hey seb128, how are you? [08:02] jbicha, it has that interface, yes [08:02] pitti, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cogl/+bug/856179 [08:02] Ubuntu bug 856179 in cogl "[FFe] cogl 1.8.0 with soname bump" [Undecided,New] [08:02] checking anyway [08:02] chrisccoulson, hey, I'm great thanks, how are you? [08:02] rodrigo_, it seems federico agrees with me about removing the refresh in gnome-desktop when applying a display configuration :) [08:02] seb128, yeah, i'm good thanks [08:02] chrisccoulson, cool! [08:03]