[00:01] <FreeNET> oki
[00:01] <FreeNET> buy all :)
[03:46] <TheEvilPhoenix> disregard the ops alert i triggered... the bot in question that i triggered it for left #ubuntu
[03:46] <TheEvilPhoenix> ... or not
[03:53] <gry> TheEvilPhoenix, which one?
[03:54] <TheEvilPhoenix> gry:  elky dealt with it
[03:54] <TheEvilPhoenix> but now there's new causes
[03:54] <TheEvilPhoenix> gry:  and elky has it under control
[03:59] <elky> TheEvilPhoenix, was there anything else?
[04:00] <IdleOne> TheEvilPhoenix: we appreciate your looking out :)
[06:04] <Tm_T> hi idefix, how can we help you?
[06:05] <idefix> hey, I thought I entered the offtopic room
[06:05] <idefix> good morning btw
[06:05] <idefix> it is nice and early in my country
[06:06] <idefix> have a nice day
[06:06] <idefix> why am I banned from #ubuntu-offtopic??
[06:07] <Tm_T> idefix: I'm currently trying to look at it
[06:07] <idefix> they kicked me temporarily as a warning yesterday
[06:07] <idefix> after that I behaved quite ok I believe
[06:11] <Tm_T> idefix: did you bring religion into the discussion after you were warned not to?
[06:29] <idefix> no, I'm quite sure I didn't
[06:29] <idefix> religion is always a difficult subject
[06:29] <idefix> many people are annoyed by it
[06:29] <idefix> Tm_T
[06:30] <Tm_T> idefix: hmmm, but to me it looks quite clear you did bring religion into the discussion just before you did quit
[06:30] <idefix> well, I said i was quite sure not 100% sure
[06:31] <idefix> yesterday evening I had bible study again
[06:31] <idefix> with whatever you are busy you talk about, that's just the way it is
[06:32] <Tm_T> idefix: unfortunately that's not what we can let happen when it violates our channel rules
[06:32] <Tm_T> you understand that?
[06:32] <idefix> so I'm not allowed to say one single word about religion!?
[06:32] <idefix> is there not a religious channel here somewhere?
[06:33] <Tm_T> idefix: you are expected to leave the matter when someone asks, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[06:33] <Tm_T> within reason ofcourse
[06:48] <idefix> anyway, you won't let me on so it's no use letting me read all that
[06:48] <idefix> Tm_T
[06:48] <Myrtti> idefix: we won't let you in if you've not read it
[06:48] <Myrtti> quite a pickle
[06:50] <Tm_T> idefix: I would have said "you won't be let in" already if it were that simple (:
[06:56] <idefix> oh, ok
[06:56] <idefix> I was just doing some chess studying
[06:56] <Tm_T> idefix: please concentrate on this matter
[06:59] <Myrtti> idefix: wakey wakey
[07:00] <Tm_T> idefix: as this discussion doesn't appear to be important to you right now, I have to ask you to come back when it is so it can be dealt with required attention
[07:02] <idefix> Our offtopic channels are designed to be places where people can be in company of others while talking about subjects that they enjoy.
[07:02] <idefix> I have read it
[07:02] <rww> did you read all of it
[07:03] <rww> !o4o
[07:03] <rww> seems to be relevant
[07:03] <Tm_T> idefix: you do understand why you are directed here and why we are having this conversation?
[07:03] <idefix> but still I'm quite sure I didn't talk about religion again after I was kicked.. are you sure that I did? do you have logs or something?
[07:04] <idefix> I think I understand
[07:04] <idefix> why I am directed heer
[07:04] <Tm_T> idefix: I am in the channel, so I see whatever happens there
[07:04] <idefix> it's a lot to remember
[07:04] <idefix> the one file on the website you sent me
[07:05] <idefix> I have an old brain in which it is difficult to retain all such information
[07:05] <Tm_T> idefix: if you cannot comprehend and stick with our rules, then unfortunately you are not let back to the channel
[07:06] <Tm_T> also, excuse that our (short) set of rules are lot to read to you while you are telling you're studying just doesn't fly
[07:07] <idefix> instead of telling somebody what all you're NOT supposed to do, can't you just tell them what TO DO!?
[07:07] <Tm_T> idefix: unfortunately that isn't possible
[07:07] <idefix> be a nice swell guy with optimistic news!
[07:08] <Myrtti> erh.
[07:08] <Myrtti> you know, if we'd make a list of things that would have everything that is allowed specified and listed, the list would be longer than the one that has things you're not supposed to do
[07:08] <idefix> do you know what's the difference between an optimist and a pessimist?
[07:08] <Myrtti> I fail to see how it would be easier for your old brain to retain it
[07:09] <idefix> my brain is not that old
[07:09] <idefix> ok, I'll list whatever I read
[07:09] <Tm_T> idefix: as you are not showing an interest to discuss this matter with the seriousness it requires, I have to ask you to come back when you are
[07:10] <Tm_T> no point continuing now
[07:10] <idefix> no reposting, no bot abuse
[07:10] <Myrtti> an optimist IRC operator assumes good faith and gives a repeat offender the benefit of doubt
[07:10] <Myrtti> a pessimist doesn't even negotiate, and bans
[07:10] <idefix> actually what they told me was: an optimist thinks we live in the most beautiful world there is and a pessimist is afraid that this is true
[07:11] <rww> I think our world is rather beautiful. Unfortunately, people keep trying to litter it with problematic things, and ignoring when they're asked to stop doing so.
[07:11] <Tm_T> idefix: you may leave this channel now and come back when you're ready to be serious with this matter
[07:28] <Myrtti> this is getting really old
[07:29] <jpds> некоторые люди.
[07:31] <elky> looks russian to me, jpds
[07:32] <elky> as in cyrillyc
[07:32] <elky> as in cyrillic*
[07:32] <jpds> elky: Reference to the nick above.
[07:32] <elky> yes, i saw. i don't understand why you spoke russian to us though :P
[07:51] <Myrtti> uhoh
[07:52] <idefix> I've tried seriously to read the IRC Guidelines and request re-entrance in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:53] <rww> did you succeed in the attempt?
[07:53] <idefix> many things are not allowed I didn't even know of you could do!
[07:53] <rww> some of our users are very resourceful, yes :(
[07:54] <idefix> I think it's all in my system now..
[07:55] <idefix> so this is like the lounge of operators?
[07:56] <rww> it's like an office
[07:56] <rww> anyways, do you understand all of our guidelines and agree to follow them all in the future?
[07:56] <idefix> yes!
[07:56] <rww> do you understand why you were forwarded here, or shall I go over that?
[07:57] <idefix> this is the place to unannoyingly be pointed out that you did wrong in the past
[07:57] <rww> I meant more along the lines of are we clear on what it is the ops team feels you did wrong :)
[07:58] <idefix> apparently I have talked about religion after I was kicked allthough I can't remember but I believe you if you say so
[07:59] <idefix> as they said at work: we promise that we'll go to church on Sunday and we won't discuss work, now you shut up about religion on this normal week day
[07:59] <rww> Alrighty. I've removed your ban in #ubuntu-offtopic. Please bear in mind our guidelines in the future, stop discussing a topic if asked to do so, and feel free to pop in here if you have questions :)
[07:59] <idefix> kewl!
[08:00] <idefix> ok now I remember it.. I said something about romans 6:23 just before leaving
[08:00]  * rww nods
[08:00] <idefix> what does this mean?  rww removes channel operator status from rww
[08:01] <rww> idefix: I'm a channel operator on #ubuntu-offtopic. On freenode, we generally don't stay "opped up" all the time for a variety of reasons, so we ask ChanServ for operator access when needed (e.g. to remove a ban) and then remove it from ourselves when we're done.
[08:01] <rww> you saw the last part of that.
[08:02] <idefix> and is ChanServ a bot or a person?
[08:02] <rww> ChanServ is a bot run by freenode
[09:01] <Myrtti> idefix: is there anything else we can help you with?
[10:21] <gry> MikeyADHD might sound slightly familiar to someone here
[10:22] <LjL> i don't know him, but he's not earning any points so far
[10:22] <gry> in the !ot channel now
[10:25] <Tm_T> ah, new nick
[11:09] <elky> !8ball
[11:09] <elky> !8-ball
[11:09] <elky> 8ball
[11:09] <ikonia> !9ball
[11:10] <elky> ikonia, KNUBBIG had an 8ball script going before, trying to check it's gone
[11:10] <ikonia> sorry, I thought we where playing pool
[11:10] <KNUBBIG> I'm sorry :(
[11:10] <elky> heh
[11:10] <KNUBBIG> didn't know it was running :(
[11:10] <elky> KNUBBIG, that's ok. I had to remove you because someone else was being silly with a bot and you were responding to them...
[11:11] <KNUBBIG> elky: okay, I unloaded it now. Sorry for that
[11:11] <elky> cool, wait while i find the ban to remove it
[11:11] <KNUBBIG> elky: thanks
[11:12] <elky> KNUBBIG, can you try rejoining #ubuntu now?
[11:12] <KNUBBIG> elky: works, thanks a lot
[11:12] <elky> excellent, thanks for understanding
[11:13] <KNUBBIG> elky: no problem, thanks for the notice and the fast help. Sorry for the disturbance :)
[11:13] <elky> always best to unload that stuff when you've finished playing. else we have several people responding to silly playing in the support channel ;)
[11:14] <KNUBBIG> :) yes, sorry. I once somehow put it in irssi's autorun and then forgot about it
[11:14] <elky> heh
[11:14] <KNUBBIG> but now it's gone from the autorun ;)
[11:14] <elky> anyway, if you're all happy now, there's no need to stay here. have a nice day :)
[11:15] <KNUBBIG> yes I know :) thank you for your help, and have a nice day, too. Byebye :)
[13:11] <h00k> why yes! I certainly do!
[13:17] <bazhang> * hook` (~iRC@cust-193-13-142-12.neotor.se) has joined #ubuntu
[13:18] <IdleOne> !guidelines > DonaldStrachan
[13:20] <h00k> bazhang: I saw that, yeah...
[13:20] <h00k> I'm flattered.
[13:20] <bazhang> troll detected
[13:20] <h00k> Except I'm not really cool, so I don't know why someone would do that.
[13:20] <bazhang> probably just a coincidence
[13:21] <h00k> hopefully, or their judgement is quite bad :(
[13:22] <IdleOne> stop being so modest, you know you're a ROCK STAR.
[13:23] <h00k> yeah. totally. O.O
[13:23] <IdleOne> Can I haz your autograph?
[13:24]  * h00k breaks the tip of the pencil on purpose when writing
[13:24] <h00k> sorry, don't know what happened there...
 how do i run .msi file ?
[13:53] <bazhang> via wine?
[13:53] <Pici> yes.
[13:53] <IdleOne> doesn't mean it will work but yeah
[13:53] <Pici> steam :|
[13:53] <IdleOne> steam will install
[14:11] <popey> indeed
[14:11]  * popey installed it and portal, worked fine
[14:13] <ikonia> I wish I bought portal on the PC rather than the xbox, everyone I know bought it on the PC
[14:13] <Myrtti> damnit
[14:13] <Pici> ikonia: its free for a while
[14:13] <Myrtti> I knew I forgot to do something
[14:13] <Myrtti> portal was it
[14:16] <ikonia> portal 2 sorry
[14:17] <Tm_T> what, there's other games than nibble?
[14:18] <ikonia> snake and jet set willy
[14:18] <Pici> Chip's Challenge
[14:19] <h00k> moon-buggy
[14:19] <Tm_T> I heard a rumor that some japanese did a game about italian plumber, how odd subject, it can't be good
[14:25] <h00k> there's also one about this small mammal that runs quite fast, and has another friend that is a fox.
[14:25] <Tm_T> mammal?! heresy!
[14:27] <h00k> Of this type: http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kyq2yz5HNM1qb5udjo1_400.jpg
 depends diapers due to irritable bowel syndrm starting at age 50 is a very serious offense against ubuntu
[14:34] <bazhang> that seems offtopic
[14:37] <Gredeu> $6,000,000
[14:37] <Gredeu> oops
[14:37] <Gredeu> -0
[14:37] <bazhang> ?
[14:37] <Gredeu> i shouldn't be banned from ubuntu-offtopic
[14:48] <h00k> what
[15:35] <mneptok> h00k: a friend had a pet hedgehog. they ... aren't really so interactive. more like having a mammalquarium.
[15:39] <h00k> mneptok: ah, that's too bad. Interactive pets are fun
[15:41] <mneptok> agreed.
[15:43]  * genii-around wings his pet rock at someone
[17:48] <h00k> another hit-and-run?
[17:49] <Pici> They're still there though
[17:49] <h00k> hit-and-idle
[17:54] <genii-around> Pici: I imagine you now as that hotel clerk who immediately pops up from under the counter when you hit the bell and goes: "Yess?"
[17:54] <h00k> Hah!
[17:54] <Pici> genii-around: I do tend to do that, don't I?
[17:55] <h00k> Marsha is back, I can watch while I'm on lunch here
[17:55] <Pici> I sent them a pm before I removed, no response.
[17:55] <genii-around> Pici: Heh, yup!
[19:41] <Pici> Whats with these drive-by-¡ops calls lately
[19:42] <jpds> I say that we all reply to them in channel to scare them off.
[19:44] <ikonia> it's not exactly a massive disruption is it, you look in and they have gone, you've wasted 5 seconds of my time
[19:46] <Pici> ...
[19:46] <jpds> Worked.
[20:15] <pythonsnake> Hi everyops
[20:15] <pythonsnake> Could I get unban for #ubuntu ?
[20:18] <h00k> @login
[20:18] <h00k> @btlogin
[20:19] <h00k> pythonsnake: hang a second, let me take a look
[20:20] <pythonsnake> ok
[20:22] <h00k> pythonsnake: Do you understand why you were removed and banned
[20:22] <pythonsnake> yes, for giving bad help
[20:23] <pythonsnake> and mocking
[20:23] <pythonsnake> I'm sorry
[20:26] <h00k> pythonsnake: Since it was just yesterday, I'm going to ask you to check back when ikonia is available to discuss it
[20:26] <h00k> pythonsnake: I would recommend waiting a few days before you check back.
[20:26] <h00k> pythonsnake: in the meantime, please read our guidelines
[20:26] <pythonsnake> meh, okay
[20:26] <h00k> !guidelines > pythonsnake
[20:26] <h00k> pythonsnake: and make sure you're familiar with our code of conduct in the Ubuntu channels
[20:26] <pythonsnake> Thanks
[20:27] <h00k> !coc > pythonsnake
[20:27] <pythonsnake> I find #ubuntu a bit rude..
[20:28] <h00k> pythonsnake: is there anything else I can help you with in here?
[20:29] <h00k> pythonsnake: I'm sorry you find it rude, but understand the massive amount of people in the channel, things like mocking aren't very constructive in the environment
[20:29] <h00k> pythonsnake: and giving bad advice or help to people can be quite damaging
[20:29] <IdleOne> funny, I asked you not to be rude in #ubuntu yesterday.
[20:30] <pythonsnake> IdleOne: lol
[20:30] <IdleOne> it isn't funny
[20:30] <pythonsnake> h00k: okay
[20:30] <pythonsnake> IdleOne: you just said it was funny
[20:31] <IdleOne> you claim that the channel is rude but you were the one being asked to be nicer.
[20:31] <IdleOne> anyway, I think h00k had the best idea when he said to take a few days.
[20:33] <h00k> pythonsnake: if you don't mind /part ing, and stopping back
[20:34] <h00k> as we have a no-idle policy.
[20:34] <pythonsnake> stopping back ?
[20:34] <h00k> pythonsnake: re-joining in a few days
[20:34] <pythonsnake> ok
[20:49] <rww> lies ^
[23:03] <rww> My professor just told class to use repositories instead of compiling software. <3
[23:03] <Corey> rww: Ooh. Which class is this?
[23:04] <IdleOne> Give that professor a cookie
[23:04] <IdleOne> give them a bag of cookies
[23:05] <PerfieM> Hi
[23:06] <gry> hi
[23:09] <IdleOne> Can we help you PerfieM ?
[23:10] <PerfieM> Oh wow, IdleOne, I had no idea you would be here
[23:10] <IdleOne> aren't I always?
[23:10] <PerfieM> I was gonna ask tho, is it too late to apologize?
[23:10] <Corey> PerfieM: This isn't a social channel, as you're well aware.
[23:10] <Corey> What can we do for you?
[23:10] <PerfieM> Corey: I'm have a mature conversation with IdleOne, please hold.
[23:10] <IdleOne> PerfieM: never to late to apologize, but the ban will not be removed.
[23:11] <PerfieM> IdleOne: Fair nuff, I'm sorry tho, I did want to become an op, but I was out of line when I called out rww for being a hater
[23:11] <IdleOne> heh, apology accepted.
[23:11] <IdleOne> anything else?
[23:11] <PerfieM> Excellent.
[23:12] <PerfieM> No, that is all.
[23:22] <rww> Corey: intro to Linux and systems programming
[23:26] <tonyyarusso> rww: Wait, there are professors who know what they're talking about?  Whoda thunk?
[23:27] <rww> tonyyarusso: I was surprised.
[23:27] <tonyyarusso> My professor last night spent like 20 minutes telling us about classy networks :(
[23:27] <rww> lol
[23:28] <tonyyarusso> it's like "Um, if I have a time machine, why do I need this class?"
[23:33] <rww> lies ^
[23:49] <Pici> meh