[06:51] <dpm> good morning all
[07:41] <RawChid> Good morning
[08:07] <dpm> morning RawChid
[14:13] <TLE> dpm: hallo
[14:28] <TLE> sorry, got to go, be online in 30 min
[17:19] <kelemengabor> dpm: good evening, got a minute?
[17:20] <kelemengabor> what should we do about bugs that say package X (or part of its strings) are not translated to language Y?
[17:20] <kelemengabor> like, bug #856505 or bug #856511
[17:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 856505 in lightdm (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "LightDM German translations (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/856505
[17:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 856511 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Unity panel German translations (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/856511
[17:22] <kelemengabor> I'd throw them out... if they have nothing to do about i18n, else we could have 150 language * 1000 incomplete translation bugs
[17:23] <kelemengabor> the only good thing is that we only have about 10 of these - yet :)
[17:28] <artnay_> I wonder how new language pack one should have to have those translated
[17:29] <artnay_> because I have them untranslated as well (although they have been translated ages ago in LP)
[17:29] <artnay_> but I'm just about to reinstall oneiric... actually the installer is running now
[17:30] <artnay_> I need a fresh start with oneiric, it's way too buggy for me at the moment
[17:30] <artnay_> even the installer seems to crash now.
[17:31] <artnay_> not just oneiric but I'm getting pissed with LP as well ;) because of bug 818230
[17:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 818230 in launchpad "LP translations get overwritten by upstream imports (affects: 1) (heat: 13)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/818230
[17:33] <artnay_> this time grub translations were overwritten with horrible mistakes
[17:34] <artnay_> yep, this installer is totally stuck. have to reboot.
[17:37] <trijntje_> what about bugs that say X not translated, while it shows translated in LP? I know that lightdm is also untranslated in Dutch while it has been complete in LP for months
[17:54] <artnay_> trijntje_: same in Finnish
[17:55] <artnay_> trijntje_: I think it's a different package though (at least in LP), those string belong to unity-greeter
[17:55] <artnay_> oh great, onscreen keyboard doesn't work in unity-greeter :(
[17:57] <artnay_> oh, hopefully it will be fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/851565
[17:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 851565 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Onscreen Keyboard cannot be used to input password (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 26)" [High,Fix committed]
[18:19] <artnay_> have you noticed this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/856655
[18:19] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 856655 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Keyboard layout string doesn't exist in translation template (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[18:20] <artnay_> the whole window is in English but that seems to be the only string which doesn't exist in template
[18:29] <kelemengabor> artnay_: is this (#856655) on the text-based installer, or the graphical one?
[18:31] <artnay_> kelemengabor: graphical
[18:31] <artnay_> I just did a fresh install
[18:31] <kelemengabor> okay, then it is not the debian-installer package
[18:32] <artnay_> umh, that might be true
[18:32] <artnay_> kelemengabor: however several similar strings exist in debian-installer
[18:33] <dpm> kelemengabor, I think it's fine to triage them, assign them to the appropriate lang team and mark them as low. Btw, I talked to pitti about langpacks: there wasn't an update in the end because he disabled them last week for the beta-2 freeze. We'll reenable them tomorrow
[18:33] <kelemengabor> artnay_: that doesn't help us much
[18:34] <artnay_> kelemengabor: it doesn't exist in ubiquity, either
[18:34] <artnay_> kelemenga: this is what we have in a template: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/debian-installer/+pots/debian-installer/fi/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=This+default+value+is
[18:35] <artnay_> almost the same but not quite
[18:36] <kelemengabor> dpm: okay, I'll leave them then
[18:37] <dpm> thanks kelemengabor, looking forward to be able to spend some more time on translations next week :)
[18:37] <artnay_> kelemenga: #856655 now has a screenshot
[18:37] <dpm> I've got to go now
[18:37] <dpm> have a good evening everyone!
[18:37] <artnay_> bye dpm
[18:38] <kelemengabor> artnay_: cool, that always helps :)
[18:41] <artnay_> can someone help with this one? I see only some filesystems listed in debian-installer, not all: http://imgur.com/r7A5w and https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/debian-installer/+pots/debian-installer/fi/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=sis%C3%A4lt%C3%A4v%C3%A4
[18:42] <artnay_> I'm actually looking for "btrfs tapahtumakirjanpidon sisältävä tiedostojärjestelmä"
[18:42] <artnay_> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/debian-installer/+pots/debian-installer/fi/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=btrfs nothing
[18:44] <artnay_> it's somehow translated but can't see how
[18:44] <artnay_> any ideas?
[18:49] <artnay_> kelemenga: that Switch User Account... (#856511) could also be a bug since the original string is "Switch from %s..." and the alternative string is triggered by translators (setting 0 to 1 in a translation template)
[18:59] <artnay_> uh, oh, what... this is a fresh install and I tried to start U1. it brings a window in front of me containing "Install Ubuntu One" and a lot of other text that doesn't exist in any ubuntuone template
[19:00] <kelemengabor> artnay_: strange, that btrfs string should be in debian-installer or ubiquity, but none of them contains it
[19:00] <artnay_> kelemenga: true
[19:00] <kelemengabor> perhaps debian-installer was not updated recently...
[19:00] <kelemengabor> I have no other idea
[19:01] <artnay_> kelemenga: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/debian-installer/+imports
[19:02] <kelemengabor> as for #856511, I think just a new langpack is missing
[19:02] <artnay_> and...
[19:02] <artnay_> Version: 20101020ubuntu65
[19:02] <kelemengabor> at least I remember I translated it
[19:02] <artnay_> a year old debian-installer, might be that
[19:08] <artnay_> ok, tracked down the reason for ubuntuone-installer not being translated
[19:09] <artnay_> it's been just added as a template and the template has very low priority (leaving it to last page of templates!)
[19:09] <artnay_> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/ubuntuone-installer/+pots/ubuntuone-installer please raise the priority (so that it's among other ubuntuone templates in "front page")
[19:10] <kelemengabor> artnay_: what is this ubuntuone-installer? could you make a screenshot?
[19:11] <artnay_> kelemenga: if you're running oneiric, just type ubuntuone-installer
[19:11] <artnay_> basically it seems like u1 isn't installed by default but the installer is
[19:12] <artnay_> kelemenga: http://i.imgur.com/re6fD.png
[19:12] <artnay_> and actually that "Learn more" isn't even translatable
[19:13] <kelemengabor> oh, I see... my system is updated since long, u1 was always installed :)
[19:13] <artnay_> or it comes from another template, don't know (didn't look at the code)
[19:13] <artnay_> kelemenga: that (and the unstability) are the reasons why I keep reinstalling ;)
[19:14] <kelemengabor> priority bumped
[19:14] <artnay_> thanks
[19:16] <kelemengabor> artnay_: indeed, it is not marked for translation: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/ubuntuone-installer/oneiric/view/head:/ubuntuone/installer/gui.py#L163
[19:16] <kelemengabor> could you file a bug about this?
[19:16] <artnay_> kelemenga: sure
[19:16] <kelemengabor> cool, thanks!
[19:17] <artnay_> nor is install button
[19:17] <artnay_> hmm, it is but doesn't exist in a template
[19:18] <artnay_> self.__main_button = Gtk.Button.new_with_mnemonic('I_nstall')
[19:20] <kelemengabor> nice catch too :)
[19:22] <artnay_> bug 856728
[19:22] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 856728 in ubuntuone-installer (Ubuntu) "Missing translations (Learn more, Install) in ubuntuone-installer window (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/856728
[19:28] <artnay_> hey, this seems cool: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-September/034122.html
[19:29] <artnay_> now open up ubuntu friendly for translations ;)