[06:51] good morning all [07:41] Good morning [08:07] morning RawChid [14:13] dpm: hallo [14:28] sorry, got to go, be online in 30 min [17:19] dpm: good evening, got a minute? [17:20] what should we do about bugs that say package X (or part of its strings) are not translated to language Y? [17:20] like, bug #856505 or bug #856511 [17:20] Launchpad bug 856505 in lightdm (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "LightDM German translations (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/856505 [17:20] Launchpad bug 856511 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Unity panel German translations (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/856511 [17:22] I'd throw them out... if they have nothing to do about i18n, else we could have 150 language * 1000 incomplete translation bugs [17:23] the only good thing is that we only have about 10 of these - yet :) [17:28] I wonder how new language pack one should have to have those translated [17:29] because I have them untranslated as well (although they have been translated ages ago in LP) [17:29] but I'm just about to reinstall oneiric... actually the installer is running now [17:30] I need a fresh start with oneiric, it's way too buggy for me at the moment [17:30] even the installer seems to crash now. [17:31] not just oneiric but I'm getting pissed with LP as well ;) because of bug 818230 [17:31] Launchpad bug 818230 in launchpad "LP translations get overwritten by upstream imports (affects: 1) (heat: 13)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/818230 [17:33] this time grub translations were overwritten with horrible mistakes [17:34] yep, this installer is totally stuck. have to reboot. [17:37] what about bugs that say X not translated, while it shows translated in LP? I know that lightdm is also untranslated in Dutch while it has been complete in LP for months [17:54] trijntje_: same in Finnish [17:55] trijntje_: I think it's a different package though (at least in LP), those string belong to unity-greeter [17:55] oh great, onscreen keyboard doesn't work in unity-greeter :( [17:57] oh, hopefully it will be fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/851565 [17:57] Launchpad bug 851565 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Onscreen Keyboard cannot be used to input password (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 26)" [High,Fix committed] [18:19] have you noticed this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/856655 [18:19] Launchpad bug 856655 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Keyboard layout string doesn't exist in translation template (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] [18:20] the whole window is in English but that seems to be the only string which doesn't exist in template [18:29] artnay_: is this (#856655) on the text-based installer, or the graphical one? [18:31] kelemengabor: graphical [18:31] I just did a fresh install [18:31] okay, then it is not the debian-installer package [18:32] umh, that might be true [18:32] kelemengabor: however several similar strings exist in debian-installer [18:33] kelemengabor, I think it's fine to triage them, assign them to the appropriate lang team and mark them as low. Btw, I talked to pitti about langpacks: there wasn't an update in the end because he disabled them last week for the beta-2 freeze. We'll reenable them tomorrow [18:33] artnay_: that doesn't help us much [18:34] kelemengabor: it doesn't exist in ubiquity, either [18:34] kelemenga: this is what we have in a template: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/debian-installer/+pots/debian-installer/fi/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=This+default+value+is [18:35] almost the same but not quite [18:36] dpm: okay, I'll leave them then [18:37] thanks kelemengabor, looking forward to be able to spend some more time on translations next week :) [18:37] kelemenga: #856655 now has a screenshot [18:37] I've got to go now [18:37] have a good evening everyone! [18:37] bye dpm [18:38] artnay_: cool, that always helps :) [18:41] can someone help with this one? I see only some filesystems listed in debian-installer, not all: http://imgur.com/r7A5w and https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/debian-installer/+pots/debian-installer/fi/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=sis%C3%A4lt%C3%A4v%C3%A4 [18:42] I'm actually looking for "btrfs tapahtumakirjanpidon sisältävä tiedostojärjestelmä" [18:42] https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/debian-installer/+pots/debian-installer/fi/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=btrfs nothing [18:44] it's somehow translated but can't see how [18:44] any ideas? [18:49] kelemenga: that Switch User Account... (#856511) could also be a bug since the original string is "Switch from %s..." and the alternative string is triggered by translators (setting 0 to 1 in a translation template) [18:59] uh, oh, what... this is a fresh install and I tried to start U1. it brings a window in front of me containing "Install Ubuntu One" and a lot of other text that doesn't exist in any ubuntuone template [19:00] artnay_: strange, that btrfs string should be in debian-installer or ubiquity, but none of them contains it [19:00] kelemenga: true [19:00] perhaps debian-installer was not updated recently... [19:00] I have no other idea [19:01] kelemenga: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/debian-installer/+imports [19:02] as for #856511, I think just a new langpack is missing [19:02] and... [19:02] Version: 20101020ubuntu65 [19:02] at least I remember I translated it [19:02] a year old debian-installer, might be that [19:08] ok, tracked down the reason for ubuntuone-installer not being translated [19:09] it's been just added as a template and the template has very low priority (leaving it to last page of templates!) [19:09] https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/ubuntuone-installer/+pots/ubuntuone-installer please raise the priority (so that it's among other ubuntuone templates in "front page") [19:10] artnay_: what is this ubuntuone-installer? could you make a screenshot? [19:11] kelemenga: if you're running oneiric, just type ubuntuone-installer [19:11] basically it seems like u1 isn't installed by default but the installer is [19:12] kelemenga: http://i.imgur.com/re6fD.png [19:12] and actually that "Learn more" isn't even translatable [19:13] oh, I see... my system is updated since long, u1 was always installed :) [19:13] or it comes from another template, don't know (didn't look at the code) [19:13] kelemenga: that (and the unstability) are the reasons why I keep reinstalling ;) [19:14] priority bumped [19:14] thanks [19:16] artnay_: indeed, it is not marked for translation: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/ubuntuone-installer/oneiric/view/head:/ubuntuone/installer/gui.py#L163 [19:16] could you file a bug about this? [19:16] kelemenga: sure [19:16] cool, thanks! [19:17] nor is install button [19:17] hmm, it is but doesn't exist in a template [19:18] self.__main_button = Gtk.Button.new_with_mnemonic('I_nstall') [19:20] nice catch too :) [19:22] bug 856728 [19:22] Launchpad bug 856728 in ubuntuone-installer (Ubuntu) "Missing translations (Learn more, Install) in ubuntuone-installer window (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/856728 [19:28] hey, this seems cool: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-September/034122.html [19:29] now open up ubuntu friendly for translations ;)