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qinNickel: sl, sudo apt-get install sl (perfect practical annoyance for command line beginers)00:00
SIFTUsam555: if you are tyring to install the pptp connector for network manager it's in the repos00:00
Nickelqin, cool00:00
oakmanwhat linux distro is similar to opensuse?  so i don't use them00:01
Nickelqin, anything else?00:01
IdleOne!ot | oakman00:01
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Trashihi guys. i have an external monitor and i want to define a seperate x screen. works fine, but all desktop files i can see on screen0 arent available on screen1! is there usefull solution for that?00:02
htpcanybody can help with a bluetooth headset ?00:02
qinNickel: There are hundreds of programs, hard to say one best; what are you keen about?00:02
B0g4r7Nickel, install compizconfig-settings-manager00:03
NickelB0g4r7, what's that?00:03
SetiAmonhmm00:03
Nickelqin, i'm really into android, would love to learn how to dev00:03
blognewbhey guys do  you have to pay royalty to mpeg-la if you decide to sell h264 videos00:03
B0g4r7It lets you turn on all kinds of visual effects like "wobbly windows" and raindrops and such.00:03
Nickelqin, and i just want to learn linux in general, be familiar with tons of code and such00:03
Nickelqin, how does sl work exactly?00:03
SetiAmonSo sound is all distorted with my fresh install of Ubuntu00:03
qinNickel: So first stop is virtualbox (to run android)00:03
Nickelnice00:04
SetiAmonits like it plays,but staticy overlays.sometimes it will repeats itself over and over like a echo becoming more distorted00:04
Nickelqin, says virtual box has no installation candidate00:04
nuclearwormhello, my computer boot only fat16 partitioned usb pen drive. is there a way to create a fat16 boot partition or a cd or floppy that tell th system where ubuntu is installed?00:04
qinNickel: If you make typo in common comands (ls cd) it will make neat stuff.00:04
B0g4r7Nickel,  you will need to add the virtualbox repo to apt.00:05
Nickelrepository?00:05
B0g4r7yes.  http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads00:05
qinNickel: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose00:06
urlin2ublognewb, how would we know.00:06
qin!tab > Nickel00:06
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Nickellolol ubottu...00:07
Nickelqin, ooooh, i have to direct everything i say to someone... gotcha. what other commands you have for that bot? :D00:08
Nickelqin, virtualbox-ose is currently installing00:08
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oakmanduring ubuntu installation;  how come it does not ask for root password00:11
rww!noroot00:11
ubottuWe do not support setting a root password. You're free to do it on your own machine, but please don't offer instructions on how to set a root password or ask for help with setting it. See !root and !wfm for more information.00:11
nuclearwormwhat is mount point for?00:11
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ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo00:11
Emmanuel_ChanelHello!00:12
Emmanuel_ChanelSomeone's alive?00:12
SetiAmonso whats hte fix for fixing audio?00:12
coz_Emmanuel_Chanel,  many people are here ...yes00:12
Nickelcoz_, sorry about that, was trying to be funny. :P00:12
IceGuest_77I'm looking to dualboot Win7/Ubuntu, my system is configured with RAID 0, for windows i had to use chipset drivers during the installation, is this the same case for ubuntu? Do I need chipset drivers for the installation to use?00:12
Emmanuel_ChanelI cannot upgrade my linux kernel on Ubuntu.00:12
coz_Nickel,  no problem,, it can be fun :)  however it would start to interfere with s upport00:13
Emmanuel_Chanel>failed in write on buffer copy for backend dpkg-deb during `./lib/modules/2.6.38-11-generic/kernel/fs/dlm/dlm.ko': No space left on device00:13
Emmanuel_ChanelThat's the error message.00:13
Emmanuel_ChanelBut I've extended the space on / filesystem.00:13
coz_Emmanuel_Chanel,   your hard drive is full?00:13
Emmanuel_ChanelNo.00:13
blognewbis there a way to know which file format was used in a mp4 container file?00:14
Nickelqin, that finished downloading, anything else?00:14
Emmanuel_ChanelThe result of df -h / is 430M  326M   83M  80% / .00:14
Emmanuel_ChanelAnd I have /boot partition and /tmp , /var , /usr , and /home volume.00:15
Emmanuel_ChanelThose volumes aren't full, either.00:15
Emmanuel_ChanelSo I don't understand my trouble. And I wanna help.00:15
coz_blognewb,  not sure actually let me search a bit00:16
G00053how do i find out what the newest version of fglrx is ?00:16
Logan_!info fglrx | G0005300:16
ubottuG00053: fglrx (source: fglrx-installer): Video driver for the ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is extra. Version 2:8.840-0ubuntu4 (natty), package size 21543 kB, installed size 66508 kB (Only available for amd64 i386)00:16
nuclearwormcan i install ubuntu and choose /cdrom as mount point? what are the problems of doing so?00:17
jfmoraeshello00:17
coz_brb00:17
G00053okaylogan ty00:18
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jfmoraesis there anyone here00:20
jabagaweehi00:21
jabagaweedid you need help, jfmoraes?00:21
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Emmanuel_ChanelHow can I help my problem?00:22
SIFTUEmmanuel_Chanel: your is really 430Mb?00:22
blognewbHey guys00:22
Emmanuel_ChanelYes.00:22
SIFTUEmmanuel_Chanel: / partition00:22
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blognewbwhat can i use to convert swf to mp4 or other containers??00:22
blognewbhaaalp :(00:22
SIFTUEmmanuel_Chanel: well I bet it does run out of space00:23
jabagaweeblognewb, ffmpeg's good00:23
SIFTUblognewb: ffmpeg, and there are a few frontends00:23
Emmanuel_ChanelI have /boot , /usr , /var , and /tmp ...00:23
Emmanuel_Chanelok.00:24
Emmanuel_ChanelWhere is dpkg's buffer?00:24
blognewbSIFTU jabagawee is there a tute page where a noob like me can use to convert swf->mp400:24
andreasI upgraded to 11.04, went to Ubuntu Classic but now under Appereance I can not get into special effects. Anybody knows how to fix?00:24
K4kblognewb: man ffmpeg00:24
SIFTUEmmanuel_Chanel: it' running out of space in /lib and since you dont have a /lib partition it's under /00:24
andreasMy graphics driver is up to date00:24
jabagaweeandreas, instal compizconfig-settings-manager00:24
SIFTUblognewb: plenty on google00:24
andreasIs installed00:24
K4kblognewb: I've good luck finding ffmpeg examples on google too00:25
jabagaweeblognewb, google is your friend00:25
Emmanuel_ChanelHow much space do I need?00:25
xanguaandreas: compiz --replace00:25
Emmanuel_ChanelI can extend / partition.00:25
Emmanuel_ChanelI use LVM...00:25
SIFTUEmmanuel_Chanel: then extend it.. give it a few more GB00:26
urlin2uEmmanuel_Chanel, what is the distro?00:26
andreasI ran compiz --replace but still no options under apperance00:26
Emmanuel_ChanelUbuntu 11.04 . So I'm asking this question on this channel.00:26
andreas lspci | grep VGA00:26
andreas01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT215 [GeForce GTS 360M] (rev a2)00:26
Emmanuel_ChanelI installed it by alternate 64bit CD.00:26
andreasUsually I would just go under System>Appearnce>Visual Options or something like that and enable extra00:27
urlin2uEmmanuel_Chanel, you installed with the alternative and have  /boot , /usr , /var , and /tmp ...00:27
Emmanuel_ChanelRight.00:27
blognewbhey is it possible to use and house only one video file format to yield 3 diff container files mp4 webm and ogg for html5 videos or do i have to store static mp4 webm ogg in my server00:28
urlin2uEmmanuel_Chanel, personally I don't believe you that is a fedora install.00:28
Emmanuel_ChanelI was formerly a Fedora user...00:28
Emmanuel_ChanelThe result of dpkg -I linux-image-2.6.38-11-generic_2.6.38-11.50_amd64.deb: Installed-Size: 14468400:29
urlin2uEmmanuel_Chanel, doesn't matter if I believe though. :D00:29
SIFTUEmmanuel_Chanel: just extend /00:30
Emmanuel_Chanelok.00:31
Emmanuel_ChanelI try.00:31
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bfreisI have "zombie" mounts I want to get rid of, what can I do? I was building an Ubuntu image, so I had to mount /dev, /proc into the chroot environment. Later I unmounted the chroot base dir, but the other mounts remained00:35
jeremy-77if you have 2 hard drives both 250 gig ide and one is set as master and one is slave and you install ubuntu on the master is it normal for ubuntu to put grub or any other part of boot up on the slave hard drive?  im asking cause after install and then removing second ide slave and setting other drive as single master it has the OS but no boot loader or grub00:36
coz_jeremy-77,   I have 2 hard drives one with window one with ubuntu...grub is put onto the windows disk by default,, I know you can dictate where it is installed but I would suggest the #grub channel for detailed info on that00:38
jlebarHi, all.  I'm a Firefox developer working on wording for a prompt for an upcoming version of Firefox.  I'd like to take a quick straw poll of the channel.  If I told you that I was collecting information about "how you use Firefox", would you be surprised to find out that that includes a list of the extensions you have installed?00:38
MonkeyDustanyone has a solution for the kworker bug? http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-717919%5D-re-acpi-kworker-high-interrupts-134097/00:38
MonkeyDustjlebar: polls are not allowed here00:38
Lithos84!poll | jlebar00:39
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jlebarYes, that was definitely the kind of poll I was conducting.  Thanks!00:40
jeremy-77coz_,  well I do have a folder on the slave drive with several OS iso's so do you think maybe ubuntu installer sees them as existing OS and sets grub up on slave drive ?00:40
coz_jeremy-77,  it is possible, but I am not up completely with grub2 and its options and defaults,,, I would still suggest checkin with the people in #grub channel :)00:41
jeremy-77coz_,  thanks00:41
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facebumphey00:49
facebumpI have a very strange touchpad issue that I havent been able to solve...it works for a couple of minutes/seconds after boot, but then it just stops00:50
facebumpI can use a usb mouse, but not the touchpad00:50
Nickelqin, you still around?00:53
davidfhi anybody know why I can't run administrative tasks if I'm offline? That seems pretty scary to me. rootkit?00:54
zephyrErm...00:55
zephyrWhat's the purpose of the "Public" Folder in every user's home directory?00:55
hfsvlol00:55
oakmanhow do i set root password00:56
B0g4r7zephyr, I think that anything placed in those dirs is accessible via apache running on the hist vie ~username in the url.00:56
urlin2uoakbox, you don't have to you just need the sudo password.00:56
alexThunderhi - can anyone help me with pcsxr?00:57
zephyroakman: sudo passwd00:57
oakmanbut i want to00:57
facebumpoakman, to get a root shell type sudo -i00:57
markusciaoo00:57
facebumpanyone know anything about figuring out my synaptic touchpad on 11.1000:57
urlin2uoakbox, have you had a chance to read this wiki. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo00:58
urlin2ufacebump, that would be in #ubuntu+100:58
zephyrb0nghittr: You "think"? xD00:58
facebumpcool, ill give that a try, thanks00:58
zephyrI was going to use that as a directory to host my own website files. I hate to "clutter" my home folder.00:59
zephyrAnd I got a very bad habit of doing that.00:59
facebumpzephyr, create a directory in your home folder called public_html01:04
facebumpthat is how I have done it in the past01:05
RoastedI just had a nvidia driver installation go south. now when I fire up this ubuntu box I get nothing. just a balnk screen. Any ideas?01:07
urlin2uRoasted, you can try the failsafe from recovery for a low graphics.01:07
Roastedhow can I get into that? My only user on this system is set to auto login. :(01:08
Roastedso I dont have a chance to hit the login screen to change anything01:08
urlin2uRoasted, there is a recovery boot at the grub menu, tap shift if you never see grub to bring it up at powering on.01:09
urlin2uRoasted, which distro are you running?01:10
Roasted11.0401:10
oakmanwhat is equivalent of "SUDO -i"  in GUI01:10
urlin2uRoasted, cool the failsafe is in the first gui after choosing the recovery use the arrow keys to scroll to it.01:11
Alpha_Punksudoigui01:11
Alpha_Punk:P01:11
Roastedurlin2u, recovery mode you mean?01:12
Roastedoh yeah I see it now01:12
Roastedthe failsafe in the menu01:12
urlin2uRoasted, if you get to a cli type startx01:13
blognewbhey do producers have to pay royalty to mpegla if you self h264 videos?01:13
blognewbsell01:13
urlin2ublognewb, not a ubuntu issue.01:14
oakmanwhat is equivalent of "SUDO -i"  in GUI01:14
oakmananybody know01:14
doofy_My ubuntu seems to be booting fine, but i can't get the login screen or X to work properly. I can SSH to the machine and open up other terminals on the physical box, but the gui boots in to a solid purple screen01:15
KM0201oakman: don't think thereis noe.. sudo is designed to be temporary01:15
mateusoieee01:15
urlin2uoakbox, the question leaves out to much (gui?)01:15
oakmanKM0201 even temporarily ; how do i  sudo -i  in GUI01:16
hfsvWhat is a good media player for ubuntu?01:17
KM0201oakman: thats my point, sudo -i, is to make a terminal "stay" with root privileges, until you exit it or close the terminal.. to my knowledge, there is no gui equivalent01:17
KM0201!best | hfsv01:18
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Emmanuel_ChanelSIFTU: My trouble is solved.01:18
coz_hfsv,  well... xbmc  or depending on which type of media you want to play01:18
KM0201that's another big part of it.. "media".. is a lot of different stuff01:18
oakmanhmm i just managed to log in as root:  how is this possible: i don't even know what root password is01:18
coz_oakbox,  you went to the login window and logged in  "root" ?01:19
oakmanyes01:19
coz_oakbox,  sorry01:19
hfsvit's mostly video (avi, mp4, etc)01:19
KM0201!sudo | oakman do some reading01:19
ubottuoakman do some reading: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo01:19
oakmanit even show as "root" on  top-right01:19
coz_oakman,  did you p ut in a password01:19
oakmani put password of another user01:19
oakmani have never set root password01:19
KM0201some people are their own worst enemy learning linux.01:19
coz_oakman,  mm something is not right with permissions then...01:20
KM0201oakman: why are you wanting to login as root anyway?01:20
coz_oakbox,  to get a root terminal you simply have to type   sudo -i01:20
coz_oakman,  ^^01:21
coz_oakbox,  sorry again01:21
Emmanuel_ChanelSIFTU: thx.01:21
eman_is there a version of samba that works between non-windows machines?01:21
fendurI am not having luck changing my window manager in 10.04. I've tried a couple settings in gconf-editor and I've tried using the option at the bottom of the gdm login screen. I'm trying to use "dwm" -- a simple window manager. Any tips?01:21
KM0201eman_: linux and mac both support samba... so.. yes there's  aversion that works between non-windows machiens, its samba01:21
coz_oakman,  you can also open nautilus  with  gksudo nautilus and  do things as if root01:21
eman_ie frinstance two ubuntu boxes01:21
coz_fendur,  its likely you have to log off and after putting in your password before hitting enter,, change the session to dwm01:22
KM0201eman_: for two linux users, you can use NFS, or just use samba01:22
eman_but not for file shareing from ubuntu01:22
eman_cannot use samba for two linux users01:22
coz_fendur,  you could also try in terminal  dwm --replac & disown01:22
KM0201eman_: lol, yes you can01:22
coz_fendur,  rather    dwm --replace & disown01:23
fendurcoz: odd. dwm doesn't have a --replace. I'01:23
fendurll try the login method you propose.01:23
coz_fendur,  then log off and try changing the session to dwm01:23
eman_km0201 what version01:23
KM0201eman_: what verson of what?01:23
eman_linux/samba01:23
eman_work01:23
KM0201any/any01:23
eman_wrong wrong01:24
eman_not nautilus01:24
KM0201eman_: lol, ok.. i'm not gonna argue with you, but you have no clue01:24
KM0201eman_: i didn't say anything about nautilus01:24
eman_trying to share in nautilus gives samba errors01:24
fendurcoz_: I had no luck with that. I chose my user, typed password, changed the wm option to dwm, and pressed enter.01:24
Roasteddang, I'm still getting white screens instead of the screensaver01:25
KM0201eman_: then you probably don't know what you're doing, thats the only thing i can figure, because it works fine01:25
coz_fendur,  then you may have to check online about this,, I have not used dwm  so I may have it all wrong01:25
eman_what versisons01:25
eman_10.10 does not01:25
fendurcoz_: thank you.01:25
KM0201eman_: i keep trying to tell you, it doesn't matter, and yes it does01:25
coz_fendur,  let me search ,, hold on01:25
ruconseubuntu, anyone knows the sftp protocol version 4, does Linux support it?01:26
RoastedHas anybody else experienced random white screens on ubuntu 11.04?01:26
IdleOneKM0201 eman_ stop arguing about what works/doesn't work and figure out what the actual issue is. eman_ what error are you getting?01:26
KM0201Roasted: ATI01:26
eman_ahh you must lead a charmed life01:26
chalcedonyRoasted, i have yet to enjoy that bug, but so far 11.04 has had others01:26
RoastedKM0201, nvidia01:26
eman_just a sec01:26
KM0201IdleOne: i'm not arguing, he's telling me it doesn't work, and i know better01:26
Roastedchalcedony, yeah, considering htis is just for a HTPC, I'm thinking 10.04 might be safer.01:26
Roastedit'll just auto login and auto launch XBMC anyway...01:27
IdleOneKM0201: I know you know better, this is why I am asking you to get to the actual issue :)01:27
fendurcoz_: i'd love to hear what you find. I certainly have looked. A lot of the advise doesn't seem possible due to various differences between instructions and what I see here on my desktop.01:27
Roastedchalcedony, just saddens me I run into something like this to begin with.01:27
chalcedonyRoasted, 10.10 was much better than either 10.04 or 11.0401:27
KM0201IdleOne: well, i hav an issue w/ someone telling me i'm wrong, when they are asking me for help (and i know otherwise)01:27
SetiAmonSo I ripped pulse/alsa off and installed oss4 to see if that resolves sound issues01:27
Roastedchalcedony, disagree. but to each his own.01:27
SetiAmonwell sound is better...But how do i controll volume now01:27
oakmanhow do i log in as root01:27
IdleOneoakman: use sudo01:28
eman_how tp past w/o flood?01:28
oakmanidleone that's no what i asked01:28
IdleOne!paste01:28
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dr_willisRoasted:  im finding 11.10 working better for my Nvidia system then 10.04 or 11.04 did. :)   which is good news.01:28
IdleOneoakman: Ubuntu does not support logging in as root01:28
Roasteddr_willis, nice, nice. I wonder if 11.10 is safe enough to install on a HTPC... but considering its just a HTPC... I suppose it cant be bad?01:28
Roasteddr_willis, after all, can't I update 11.10 if I go that route to be 100% current when its finally released? or would I have to do a fresh install?01:29
eman_like that one01:29
dr_willisRoasted:  for now. theres going go be quite a few updates  untill its released. You canupgrade yes.01:29
RoastedI wonder if that would be smarter than 10.04 or trying to fix 11.04....01:29
oakmanidleone i just logged in as root:  why do you have to lie01:29
IdleOneoakman: lie?01:29
urlin2uoakbox, where?01:29
IdleOneoakman: how did you log in as root?01:29
coz_fendur,  did you see this?    http://aclindsay.com/blog/2011/04/installing-dwm-and-killing-gdm-on-ubuntu/01:29
Roasteddr_willis, okay. I wasn't sure if I had to wait till a certain stage to upgrade it as the final edition though.01:29
dr_willisoakman:  Ubuntu does not have direct logging in as root enabled by default.01:29
urlin2uoakman, where?01:29
oakmani just typed username "root"01:29
dr_willisoakman:  then you are using some tweaked/changed ubuntu sounds like.01:30
lmnopoakman, you iinstalled Ubuntu?01:30
oakmandr_willis i did not change anything01:30
lmnopfor your XFS?01:30
coz_fendur,  you might also want to   sudo apt-get install dwm-tools01:30
oakmanlmnop yes , i just tried copying to xfs partition; it did not work01:30
lmnopoakman, hmm...  that actually surprises me01:31
eman_there are bug reports all over the place01:31
SetiAmonanyone here using OSS4??01:31
eman_solutions don't work01:31
IdleOneeman_: Do you want help or to complain?01:32
zephyrWhat's really the purpose of   /home/<user>/Public         ???01:32
lmnoposs4 is great if your app can use it01:32
IdleOneeman_: what errors are you getting?01:32
dr_williszephyr:  for a Public samba share I would guess.01:32
lmnopSetiAmon, ^^01:32
eman_i did a ubuntu pastebin01:32
fendurcoz_: no. but the way he describes it, it just worked. Other discussion involves not booting to gdm at all (i.e. startup with a basic console login)01:32
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IdleOneeman_: what is the url?01:32
coz_fendur,  understood...as I said I know little about this,, have you looked into xmonad?01:33
eman_http://paste.ubuntu.com/694897/01:33
lmnopoakman, is the XFS partition mounted?01:33
edinnyhaving problems finding acroread on natty AMD64 system01:34
fendurcoz_: i just looked it up. Looks like an interesting alternative.01:34
fendurcoz_: thanks for your help.01:34
sdzhow do you install the bios into ubuntu's file manager?01:35
coz_fendur,  no problem,, I do know of several people  w ho prefer xmonad01:35
eman_didn't mean to make people mad was lookin for solution01:35
oakmanlmnop  yes01:35
edinnyany idea how to install Adobe reader on01:35
KM0201eman_: can you post the contents of /etc/samba/smb.conf01:35
edinnyany idea how to install Adobe reader on Natty AMD 64 sytem?01:35
eman_sure01:36
eman_what is that url again01:37
IdleOnepaste.ubuntu.com01:37
eman_694899/01:38
mozilla-helpWhy do I not see the firefox acroread plugins in Synaptic on Hardy? I had to downgrade a system to Hardy due to video card problems and now need to get acrobat hyperlinks to display in FF...I do have Multiverse/Universe/Medibuntu installed01:39
KM0201is it that hard to paste a clickable URL?01:39
eman_goin to other ubuntu machine bbiab01:40
lmnopoakman, please restate your concern in the channel here i have to run, and i'm usre someone can help with this01:43
Dreamer3how can i get gzcat?01:45
KM0201!info gzcat01:45
ubottuPackage gzcat does not exist in natty01:45
Dreamer3it's part of the gzip package on my mac i think01:46
dr_willis!find gzcat01:46
ubottuFile gzcat found in libio-compress-perl, manpages-tr01:46
Shirakawasunaanyone here ever tried a system76 laptop? You actually get a lot of hardware for the money, I just wonder about reliability compare to my usual thinkpads01:46
Dreamer3interesting01:46
Shirakawasuna(I'm hoping this is on-topic as they're ubuntu-centered laptops)01:46
dr_willisThey just take other brand laptops and redo them i thought. so check reviews for the original brand.01:47
dr_willisIve heard they do good work. been looking at them myself.01:47
Dreamer3gunzip -c will work01:48
dr_willis:) bbl01:48
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itaylor57Shirakawasuna, I have a lemur2 from system76, I like it alot01:49
Shirakawasunaitaylor57: cool. Has it lasted long/needed repair?01:50
Shirakawasunadr_willis: so this laptop is presumably made by a different company and rebranded? http://www.system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=11401:50
itaylor57Shirakawasuna, I have had it for one year, no problems so far01:50
eman_69490101:50
Shirakawasunaitaylor57: cool01:50
KM0201eman_: at least post the whole link.. that's pure laziness on your part01:51
eman_several bug reports  i tried several blog solutions nada01:51
Shirakawasunabah, gotta go01:51
eman_http://paste.ubuntu.com/694901/01:51
Shirakawasunabut I'll read anything anyone says about it when i get back!01:51
KM0201eman_: well, first, there no entry in your smb.conf for any shares.. so it's logical that samba is not sharing anything01:51
eman_umm01:52
eman_two diff computers01:52
eman_this last from other computer01:52
eman_i had to email it to myself01:52
KM0201eman_: well, on the "other computer".. your smb.conf, has no shared path.01:52
eman_oooooooooook01:53
eman_and the fix is01:53
SetiAmonI may just revert to jaunty01:53
SetiAmoni never had any problems with jaunty really.01:53
xanguajaunty is no loger supported ;) good luck01:54
xangualonger*01:54
GreekFreakHi. Does anyone know why  Ubuntu will succesfully install the first few times on one machine, and then no intall (on the same machine) due to graphics drivers?01:55
SetiAmonis there a reason I can't use jaunty?what would i be missing if i reverted back to jaunty instead of the latest?unity? any real mixxing pieces01:55
SetiAmongrub2?01:55
chipmonkI am eman on other computer01:55
chipmonkhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/694904/01:57
KM0201eman_: this is the smb.conf for my NAS --- look at the very end of this file..  http://pastebin.com/wAdhb0p801:57
SetiAmonJaunty has no more support but frankly everything since jaunty has been a joke.if it works why fix it?boredom01:58
oakmanxfs_rtcp /root/1.mpg /mnt/201:58
oakmanxfs_rtcp: set attributes on /mnt/2/1.mpg failed: Invalid argument01:58
oakmanwhy am i getting errors here01:58
Superdave_having trouble with ssh. I get a connection refused error when accessing from outside, but i'm fine inside. Port is forwarded, and everything seems to be in order. any ideas?02:02
chipmonkhmmm KM0201 (eman)02:03
KM0201chipmonk: like i said, i don't know what you're doing.. but.. setting up a samba share is not difficult.02:04
KM0201chipmonk: if you want private help w/ setting it up, it should be fairly easy, sendm e a PM and we'll go over it02:04
chipmonkjust not with nautilus02:04
KM0201chipmonk: no real need to use nautilus..02:05
chipmonkwhat then nfs02:05
KM0201chipmonk: if ou can't figure out samba, it's unlikely ou'l figure out NFS (i've never personally messed w/ NFS)02:05
chipmonkhehe you get my point02:06
chipmonki can get into windows machine02:06
chipmonkwindows cannot see ubuntu02:06
chipmonkubuntu cannot see ubuntu02:06
KM0201chipmonk: windows can't see ubuntu, because samba is not setup, i don't know how many other ways to tell you that02:06
steve-mozWhy do I not see mozilla-acroread in Hardy? I have medibuntu/partner/multiverse/universe repos enabled...?02:07
fendurcoz_: for the record, I got it to work by switching to xdm and using it's simple mechanism for WM choice of modifying ~/.Xsession02:07
coz_fendur,  excellent ! :)  glad to hear that02:07
oakmanxfs_rtcp /root/1.mpg /mnt/202:07
oakmanxfs_rtcp: set attributes on /mnt/2/1.mpg failed: Invalid argument02:07
oakmanwhy am i getting errors here02:07
xangua!info acroread hardy | steve-moz02:08
ubottusteve-moz: Package acroread does not exist in hardy02:08
fendurcoz_: thanks again.02:11
coz_fendur,  no problem02:11
george_I just deleted the files in my downloads folder in my home directory, is there a way I can undelete them, and no they're not in the trash02:12
steve-mozi think someone was trying to help me but my computer froze...another problem I am dealing with. Anyway, I am looking for mozilla-acroread for Hardy...why is it not in medi/multi/universe/partner/backports?02:13
sam555how do you figure out what your wifi card is in ubuntu netbook?02:15
george_sam555, open terminal and do sudo ifconfig02:15
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steve-mozI am looking for mozilla-acroread for Hardy...why is it not in medi/multi/universe/partner/backports?02:21
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Phr3d13trying to find a program/terminal command to convert avis to a 3gp or 3g2 format compatible with my phone (Samsung messager II - SCH-R560)02:23
fmonroyGimp single window mode http://aceptarocancelar.blogspot.com/2011/09/gimp-single-window-mode.html02:24
rypervenchePhr3d13: ffmpeg can do it02:25
Phr3d13every time i try ffmepg, mencoder, etc when i put the output file on my phone it says file not supported02:25
angel56Phr3d13: ffmpeg is the answer to your question. If it isn't doing the job for you, maybe you should be asking a different question02:28
yixuanHello everyone, need urgent help !!! last night I want to upgrade my natty to 11.10 beta1, but it failed, or is not full downloaded.02:31
yixuantoday I cannot see my gnome desktop02:31
yixuaneven worse, I use apt-get dist-upgrade, so update-manager will be promt message "cannot upgrade from onenic to natty"02:32
yixuanhow can I do right now?02:32
SetiAmonexcuse me02:32
SetiAmonwhat would be the harm in returning to jaunty?02:33
IdleOneSetiAmon: it's no longer supported02:33
Coreyyixuan: Can you get a shell working?02:36
yixuancan anyone help me? how to resolve 11.10 upgrade failed?02:36
Coreyyixuan: Or don't answer, that works too I guess?02:38
Superdave_having trouble with ssh server. I get a connection refused error when accessing from outside, but i'm fine inside. Port is forwarded, and everything seems to be in order. any ideas?02:39
rypervencheSuperdave_: Have you checked your sshd_config file?02:39
steve-LockIf my Hardy install is randomly freezing (happens intermittently when installing software or launching programs), where do I look to find the cause of the freeze?02:40
Superdave_rypervenche: I have, and there's nothing there that seems out of the ordinary... What should I look for?02:41
rypervencheSuperdave_: Do you have PasswordAuthentication on?02:41
rypervencheSuperdave_: Or are you only using keys?02:41
Superdave_rypervenche: no, I use a password02:42
rypervencheSuperdave_: Is PasswordAuthentication set to yes?02:42
zephyrAnyone here by any chance use IRC on Empathy messenger?02:42
maxtmahemOkay I'm going crazy somebody is calling me though gtalk (I'm using empathy) and the dang thing is rinigng and ringing, but I can't figure out how to answer it!02:43
Xenethhow do you "address the recipient"?  I see it done, don't know the syntax.02:43
rypervencheSuperdave_: Still sounds like a port forwarding issue if you can do it on your local network.02:43
Superdave_rypervenche: Yeah, but it's forwarded in my router...02:43
zephyrXeneth: Try this, double click on the person's name who is calling you.       Then in that personal IM-window, click on Contact and see if an option for answering is thee.02:44
kristinahey guys, how can I log in as root without sudo and logging in with the user account?02:44
rypervencheSuperdave_: pastebin your sshd_config pleaes02:44
zephyrkristina: Wait wait. Pause & Stop... When you mention "the user account", do you mean root?02:45
zephyrOr your own personal account?02:45
Superdave_rypervenche: ok. how do I pastebin02:45
netyirekristna: yes, but that would defeat much of the in-built security measures02:46
rypervencheSuperdave_: pastebin.com02:46
kristinazephr, no, I want to log in as root, not my personal account.02:46
Xenethzephyr, I am using Xchat.  Double click does nothing.  I see "Xeneth:  ..." when you address me, and it does show red.  is there a syntax for that, or do I just have to put the name with colon?02:46
netyirekristina: it isn't a good idea, sudo is much better, but if you want type 'su' and enter the password to become root02:46
netyireor grant yourself superuser privileges under the users & groups settings02:47
kristinaI want to directly log into root without using sudo or su.02:47
netyiregood luck, may the force watch over you...02:47
Loshkikristina: why do you need to login *directly* as root?02:47
Superdave_rypervenche: http://pastebin.com/EHhsfPLN02:48
Xenethkristina:  Not a good Idea, but to do it, you need to assign root a password first, then you log in like normal.02:48
zephyrkristina: You are better off doing the following. 1st. Open up terminal. 2nd. Type in this command: su               <----- You're only then asked for root password once and then you can do any command from there.02:48
kristinaLoshki, i deleted some files in my home folder and now I'm trying to use extundelete to undelete files and i need to keep sda5 unmounted02:48
BluebirdShaomy Ubuntu running VMware 8 is so slowly.02:49
Phr3d13which of these video formats is better? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/59/screenshotkrwe.png/ and what is the command for ffmpeg to output a file with the better of the two settings?02:49
luchenbillis there a known issue for usb not working with a fresh install of ubuntu 11.04?02:49
luchenbillI have been searching with no luck02:49
rickupBluebirdShao, I ditched VMWare for VirtualBox about 2 years ago and never looked back02:49
dt_flys<BluebirdShao>02:49
zephyrLogging in as "root" as you would with your "Personal user account" is a horrible idea as mentioned previously Xeneth and others.02:49
rypervencheSuperdave_: comment out the ListenAddress02:49
rypervencheSuperdave_: Then "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart"02:50
maxtmahemBluebirdShao: Ditto, I pretty much hate Oracle, but VirtualBox is pretty good.02:50
zephyrBluebirdShao: How much ram you got? I suggest VirtualBox02:50
rickupI pretty much hate Oracle too02:50
kristinaXeneth, Zephr, i deleted some files in my home folder and now I'm trying to use extundelete to undelete files and i need to keep sda5 unmounted02:50
BluebirdShaorickup: I wanna try windows 8, so it must install VMware 8.02:50
Loshkikristina: Tricky. You'll need to do as Xeneth said, then...02:50
jribSuperdave_, rypervenche: should use service command instead of /etc/init.d02:50
Xenethzephyr:  Thus the "bad Idea" I added.  :P02:50
rickupyeah wow that sounds like fun02:51
jribkristina: use recovery mode02:51
BluebirdShaozephyr: 2 GB RAM02:51
jribkristina: (and select root prompt)02:51
kristinaXeneth, Loshki, isn't there a default root password?02:51
rickupBluebirdShao, http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?p=20074802:51
rypervenchejrib: Oh? Thanks.02:51
rypervencheSuperdave_: So yeah, run "sudo service ssh restart"02:51
kristinajrib, how do I start up recovery mode, use the recovery kernel?02:52
zephyrBluebirdShao: That's more than enough. See.            (I only have 1GB here).02:52
Loshkikristina: absolutely not. By default, you cannot login as root on Ubuntu...02:52
jribkristina: it's an option at the grub selection screen (you can see the grub screen by holding shift during boot)02:52
zephyrVirtualbox is what I use and it's not slow.02:52
XenethRoot by default is inactive".  Root comands are normally done by a superuser with the "sudo" command.  AKA: sudo chown user folder/02:52
Superdave_rypervenche: ok. how the freak do I get vim to edit.02:52
jribSuperdave_: use nano if vim is too awesome for you ;)02:53
kristinaOkay, thanks Zephr, Xeneth, and jrib.02:53
luchenbillI just installed 11.04 and none of my usb ports are now working :|02:53
oakmans there a md5sum utility but faster than md5sum02:54
luchenbillI have been googling this issue but only see help for 10.0402:54
Superdave_jrib: Hey, now... :P02:54
zephyrrypervenche: I like nano more than vim anyway.02:54
luchenbilloops02:54
luchenbill:D02:54
Xenethnano is easy to understand, closer to commen wordprocessers.02:55
dt_flyszephyr: really? is nano good than vim or gvim?02:55
oakmanis there a md5sum utility but faster than md5sum02:55
MikeChelen!best02:55
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.02:55
Phr3d13luchenbill, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=181639802:56
Phr3d13figures02:56
jriboakman: why?02:56
oakmanjrib md5sum is too slow for big files02:57
Superdave_rypervenche: Got the service restarted, but still getting the connection refused error02:57
rickupI uninstall Windows 7 on all new machines and install Ubuntu + VirtualBox + (The client's old)  Windows XP02:57
Phr3d13which of these video formats is better? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/59/screenshotkrwe.png/ and what is the command for ffmpeg to convert a file to the better of the two settings?02:57
rypervencheSuperdave_: You sure you changed it? You did "sudo nano" or "sudo gedit" ?02:57
Superdave_Yep. Sure02:58
jriboakman: does it need to be md5?02:58
oakmanjrib no, but does something similar02:58
Phr3d13if using a gui program aren't you supposed to use gksudo?02:58
rypervencheSuperdave_: What is the command you are doing?02:58
eman_i forgot your handle (chipmonk)02:58
rypervenchePhr3d13: You don't have to. It only changes where you input your password. sudo inputs it into the terminal, while gksudo opens a window for you to type it in.02:59
Phr3d13i thought there was more behind the scenes magic :-)02:59
Superdave_rypervenche: "ssh username@publicaddress" (censored, of course)03:00
jriboakman: googling a bit someone said md5deep is faster but mostly I found people saying the bottleneck was I/O, not the md5sum program.  I must go now though, good night03:01
Superdave_rypervenche: if it helps at all, my goal is to do dynamic tunneling03:02
Phr3d13which of these video formats is better? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/59/screenshotkrwe.png/ and what is the command for ffmpeg to convert a file to the better of the two settings?03:03
Xenethzeph03:04
rypervenchePhr3d13: Go with the one on the right I suppose.03:04
UnrealPancakehello03:05
zephyrXeneth: Okay, try the first 5 letters then. xD03:05
Phr3d13ok, any ideas what the command should look like?03:05
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Loshkioakman: come to think of it, what do you mean by 'too slow'? How big are 'big files', and why what's your hurry?03:05
Xenethzephyr, got it.  :)03:05
zephyrXeneth: (What happens is that, sometimes, other people may have names that are spelled alike).03:05
UnrealPancakeI need help Dual Booting / Installing Ubuntu With Windows 7 64-bit. would anybody be willing to help?03:05
zephyrSo in case, you might have to hit tab again.03:06
rypervencheSuperdave_: The only things I can think of that would be preventing you from being able to SSH into your system would be your config file and your firewall.03:06
zephyrAnd again until the correct name appears.03:06
Phr3d13UnrealPancake, is windows already installed?03:06
UnrealPancakePhr3d13: yes.03:06
Xenethzephyr, There just was no indication that it was differant then all the other text I sent.  I'm good now.  Thanks agian.03:06
Superdave_rypervenche: is there a system firewall that would be blocking it? because I don't have one anywhere else...03:07
h0stingsomeone tells me how to set up an FTP03:09
Phr3d13UnrealPancake, reboot with the disc in the drive, follow the prompts, if ya get stuck and have something to browse the web, http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony03:09
h0stingMy ftp interprets .php file I need to save03:09
UnrealPancakePhr3d13: I dont have a disk03:10
Phr3d13have you had success booting from usb device before?03:10
UnrealPancakePhr3d13: I do not know, I have dual booted My Desktop With Windows XP and Ubuntu, but I am trying it on my brand new laptop03:11
XenethSuperdave_, Have you verified that the service is listening to the correct port with netstat?03:12
UnrealPancakePhr3d13: so I dont know for sure if it will boot from a USB drive03:12
Phr3d13do you have a blank cd/dvd?03:12
UnrealPancakePhr3d13: no. But I have a 4 GB USB03:12
Superdave_Xeneth: It probably is, but give me the process for netstat just so I can be sure03:12
Phr3d13do you have the ubuntu iso?03:13
UnrealPancakePhr3d13: no.03:13
zephyrUnrealPancake: Use this software tomake your USB drive bootable:   unetbootin             You can apt-get it/download it from their website.    This works for mr.03:13
UnrealPancakePhr3d13: actually I DOnt Know03:13
XenethSuperdave_, sorry, A noob at linux myself.  I know the command in windows but not on a linux machine.03:13
XenethSuperdave_, I just know it's netstat03:13
Phr3d13ubuntu.com, download from whatever option best suits your needs03:13
UnrealPancakeI did03:14
UnrealPancakeI chose 2 different options and both options arent fully allowing me03:14
LoshkiSuperdave_: try: netstat -an03:14
zephyrUnrealPancake: If you have like 800GB of free space on that drive. You should move ALL your files to a single folder on USB drive.   Before making your usb Bootable. (In case you're lazy to actually want to format).03:14
Superdave_Loshki: k, what am I looking for for ssh?03:15
UnrealPancakezephyr: why?03:15
LoshkiSuperdave_: a line like this: tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN03:16
zephyrSuperdave_: Don't feel "low" on yourself. I don't know the commands either.    When I need help with linux, I usually google up for commands to use in terminal.          You should by now be familar with the   cd       command in windows.         You can do the same thing in linux.03:16
zephyrUnrealPancake, thought you want to install ubuntu or at least test it out from USB flash drive.03:16
UnrealPancakezephyr: I want to Dual Install Ubuntu with windows 703:17
XenethSuperdave_, Can you connect from inside the network?03:18
zephyrUnrealPancake, ah that's still do-able. All it takes is one USB drive with at least 800-1G of free space.03:19
Phr3d13once done downloading, mount the iso with a virtual drive software, navigate to the "drive" in explorer and find "usb-creator.exe", follow prompts, wait, then follow previous instructions03:19
XenethSuperdave_, remeber you saying you where using port forwarding on a router03:19
Superdave_Xeneth: yep. The port is forwarded in my router too, and It doesn't make any sense why this wouldn't work...03:19
UnrealPancakezephyr: I have about 600 GB free on my HDD and a 4 GB flsh drive03:19
UnrealPancakehow do I do it?03:19
TeeAlJust had one of those WTF moments where I accidentaly ran "mke2fs /dev/sda1" (windows NTFS partition) instead of "mke2fs /dev/sdb1" (flash drive). I can still read the partition content, though it wont boot. what now?03:19
XenethSuperdave_, So if it connects from inside the network, it's on the router.  Does the router have SSH setup too?03:20
Phr3d13UnrealPancake, did you see my instructions?03:20
tsukasa_has anyone done bash autocompletion before and looking for some freelance stuff? figured i'd ask in here before hiring someone from china03:21
zephyrUnrealPancake: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/                  <----- That software will  put "ubuntu"      inside your  USB flash drive.          When you turn on your computer, you can ask it to boot from your USB flash  drive.03:21
UnrealPancakePhr3d13: I did. But I dont have a CD03:21
wildbat!recovery | TeeAI try testdisk/photorec.03:21
ubottuTeeAI try testdisk/photorec.: To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"03:21
Phr3d13UnrealPancake, read the rest of my instructions03:21
UnrealPancakePhr3d13: about the ubuntu.com and download03:22
wildbat!undelete| oops this one ,TeeAl03:22
ubottuoops this one ,TeeAl: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel03:22
Superdave_Xeneth: Maybe... It's a cisco small business router, so It may be that advanced, but I don't use it... You think I should try a different port?03:22
SetiAmonwHAT WAS THE03:22
UnrealPancakePhr3d13: I have downloaded 3 different things03:22
UnrealPancakenone helped03:22
SetiAmonwhat was the shortcut for a filename in terminal like shift or tab or something?03:22
bastidrazor!tab > SetiAmon03:22
ubottuSetiAmon, please see my private message03:22
XenethSuperdave_, Worth a shot.  I use a Cisco 810 at home, and I had to change the public port to get it working.  That's why I thought of it.03:23
SetiAmonWeird tab isn't completing filename in terminal03:23
TeeAlwildbat: I have the file content fully readable, it's just unbootable and shown as an ext2 partition in /etc/mtab03:23
UnrealPancakezephyr: which one should I pick for the distribution?03:23
bsmith093!tab bsmith09303:23
XenethSuperdave_, May be the Cisco that is refusing because it's not setup.03:24
UnrealPancakeI have a 64 bit comp03:24
TeeAlwildbat: *blkid03:24
Superdave_Xeneth: Ok. Thanks. We'll see if that works :P Do you have a suggested port range that I should try?03:24
zephyrUnrealPancake,             You download Ubuntu  (It's an ISO/CD).         You do have to burn it.              Unetbootin will extract the .ISO you downloaded and put it on your flash drive.               (Yes, it's like burning onto Flashdrive but that's not the appropriate TERM to say).03:24
UnrealPancakezephyr: Ivhave a 64 bit comp03:24
Phr3d13http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download          select 64 bit, hit start download, while waiting for download, read the rest of the page, clicking the show me how's if needed03:24
zephyrUnrealPancake,                     Then pick the    64bit version.03:24
UnrealPancakePhr3d13: I did that link already03:24
Phr3d13afk03:24
XenethSuperdave_, Just don't overlap, otherwise, it does not matter.  Maybe 202, 222, 2222, ect.  That way it's easier to remember.03:25
TeeAlmaybe if there was some way to convert it back to ntfs and reverse the process somehow03:25
Phr3d13read the rest of the page, clicking the show me how's if needed03:25
LoshkiTeeAl: copy the data somewhere safe before you begin messing with the partition. Worst case, you may have to reinstall windows from scratch...03:25
UnrealPancakezephyr: 11.04 live? net install? hd media?03:25
UnrealPancakePhr3d13: I tried03:25
zephyrUnrealPancake: 10.04 Live.03:26
UnrealPancakezephyr: whats the difference between 10.04 and 11.04?03:26
wildbatTeeAI of coz it won't boot. ~ if you can still mount it as NTFS and read , back it up as needed , use testdisk change the partition type back to NTFS. or else backup the data and reformat to ntfs then restore the data.03:26
TeeAlwildbat: It gets auto-mounted as ext203:27
TeeAland everything is there03:27
TeeAlthat's the weird thing about it03:27
k1dd1sasteryoo03:28
Phr3d13UnrealPancake, make yours look like mine http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/192/screenshot1wo.png/    then click the big orange start download button03:28
wildbatTeeAI, that's strange. try manually mount as NTFS (readonly first), see if any errors.03:28
UnrealPancakePhr3d13: ok03:29
UnrealPancakePhr3d13: but whats the difference between 10.04 and 11.04?03:29
zephyrUnrealPancake: Mainly, the UNITY/Gnome3 shell/setup.                        Ubuntu Classic (Gnome 2).  http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/Taan4vBrjGI/AAAAAAAAD9w/mJIWXge_bo0/11.04classic-session.png                                                    and                      Ubuntu Unity(Gnome 3-ish but not really gnome):     http://static.arstechnica.com/unity-multi-selector.png03:29
ljsoftnethow do i uninstall dockbarx?03:29
UnrealPancakePhr3d13: I did that already. I have the files downloaded03:29
TeeAlwildbat: oh wait, my bad. since last reboot they switched. it is indeed marked as ntfs.03:30
Phr3d1310.04 os older but LTS (Long Term Support), 11.04 newer, some stuff could possibly be buggy03:30
zephyrUnrealPancake: In Ubuntu 11.04, you can use Gnome Classic in case you do not like Default Ubuntu Unity.03:30
Phr3d13UnrealPancake, click the show me how next to step 2, if you're still having issues ask03:30
UnrealPancakePhr3d13: I did.03:31
Superdave_Xeneth: Thanks. i'll try that.03:31
TeeAlwildbat: from your experience, do you think switching it to ntfs using testdisk would do the trick?03:31
wildbatTeeAI, good then, repair the partition in partition to ntfs with testdisk, and repair bootsect if needed.03:31
luchenbillis it possible to install a chroot to run a lamp server in?03:32
TeeAlwildbat: will do. thank you very, very much!03:32
XenethUnrealPancake, To be expected, but 11.04 uses more resources.  My old laptop could not work with it, so the age/power of the computer should be considered.03:32
wildbatTeeAl: if it mount w/o error it should be fine. thou ~ data up important data is better. chkdsk in windows after that.03:33
UnrealPancakeI have a brand new ASUS U46E03:33
r3mHi all, is it normal that my ubuntu 10.04 do not use the bottom bar to put open windows? i need to alt+tab to see the opened windows03:33
UnrealPancakeI have a brand new ASUS U46E - Xeneth03:33
zephyrluchenbill: ISPConfig server has that feature. Yes it uses Linux (Ubuntu I'm assuming you want to use),  Yes it has Apache, Mysql and PHP.      ISPconfig as I know uses CHroot.03:33
luchenbillzephyr yeah, i just installed 11.04 and I have never heard my computer run so quietly lol03:34
zephyrluchenbill: Actually.  ISPconfig is not a server, but it's a Control Panel for a server. (They expect you to install ISP config on a fresh newly made server).03:34
luchenbilland I wanted to do some local php development, without risk of getting pwned03:34
wildbatr3m: by default no, you may have removed the panel. add the Window List back or !resetpanel.03:34
r3mwildbat: thanks03:35
XenethUnrealPancake, In that case, it's mostly up to preference. My suggestion is to make a live CD of both, and test each.  When you decide, it's simply a matter or installing from the disk.03:35
zephyrluchenbill: Lol, is it your personal computer? You should have to worry about getting pwned. xD03:35
r3m!resetpanel r3m03:35
UnrealPancakeXeneth:  k03:35
r3m!resetpanel03:35
ubottuTo reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »03:35
luchenbillhaha yeah it's my personal computer03:36
zephyrluchenbill, In fact, I can be as open with security all I want, a person shouldn't have to worry unless it's a public server that is NOT inside your House. O_O03:36
r3mwildbat: thanks a lot!03:36
luchenbillwell, there are ways to break out of chroot anyways no?03:36
zephyrluchenbill, now to not get pwned. You follow simple common security  tips.   Like "Don't share passwords, set proper file & directory permissions".03:37
luchenbillyeah i'm not worried about local security, just remote03:37
zephyrluchenbill: Here is what I'm doing "Right now".  I'm using: LiteSpeedTech.      http://www.litespeedtech.com/         Basically, apache/php on crack.03:37
luchenbillawesome i'll look into that!03:38
zephyrluchenbill, do you have people accessing your computer? Why not just use router security?     If no body knows your IP/host, there should be no worries.03:38
luchenbillwell I mean i'm here on irc with my ip exposed etc. i'm paranoid I guess :|03:39
r3mI always need to type my password twice to login, the first time it always said bad password. i reboot like 20 time and it always do that... is it because my home folder is crypted03:39
luchenbillI guess I need to study some router security techniques :)03:39
zephyrluchenbill, if you do not like litespeed.           What I used to do is this:        Apt-get mysql               apt-get phpmyadmin                   THEN THEN I just start developing some test-php scripts so I can later upload it to my real website and go live.03:39
zephyrluchenbill, I doubt anyone would be interested in hacking you. o_O03:40
Legend_XeonI am on dual boot with Windiws XP and ubuntu. Sometimes when i restart ubuntu, i observe that ubuntu shows large fonts and is not able to detect display monitor, it labels it "Unknown" in System > Preferences > Monitors. After restarting many times it still don't detect it. But when i shut it down and remove power cables for five minutes and restart it again, it display normal graphics and rightly shows the name of my Display monit03:40
Legend_Xeonor in System > Preferences > Monitors.03:40
luchenbillzephyr, yeah except the millions of irc drone bots etc. :|03:40
Legend_XeonWhy so?03:40
zephyrluchenbill: I would ONLY worry about that if my scripts goes to a live server. (Like x10hosting.com where I host my website at).03:40
Xenethluchenbill, Your IP is alway's out on the INTERNET, so it's nothing big.  If you want to hide it, it's easy to setup a proxy.03:41
ljsoftnethow do i remove dockbarx?03:41
TeeAlwildbat: partition seems okay really, nothing to change much. how do I fix the boot sector?03:42
luchenbillxeneth, yeah my point exactly... I was just curious if running a lamp server environment inside a chroot was a smart way to avoid being hacked from some open port/services03:42
zephyrluchenbill, SO yeah, I doubt a handful of people knows your  IP and tries to access your computer.      So for now just get         litespeed        (While you starting fresh, it's a good idea to learn how to use litespeed).03:42
luchenbilli'm new to ubuntu/unix/linux so I have many questions really :)03:42
wildbatTeeAl: testdisk have that option too. or bootsect.exe or fixmbr in windows recover CD.03:43
luchenbillzephyr yes it looks awesome, thanks for the advice :)03:43
zephyrluchenbill, to be very honest, I do NOT know a lot about chroot.                   I'm no security Expert. But I know chroot is suppose to  lock people in a  Certain directory. It treats that Certain directory as a "root directory" where it's the furtest a person can go.03:43
luchenbillyeah I was reading up on it, it's something like a sandbox etc.03:44
luchenbillonly for linux03:44
k1dd1saster8-ball: yo03:44
KNUBBIG_k1dd1saster: A question please.03:44
k1dd1sasterA question please.03:44
DanFk1dd1saster: A question please.03:44
TheEvilPhoenixstop03:44
k1dd1saster8-ball: Am i cool?03:44
KNUBBIG_k1dd1saster: 8-ball says: Yes definitely03:44
k1dd1saster8-ball says: Most likely03:44
DanFk1dd1saster: 8-ball says: My sources say no03:44
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zephyrEven If I knew about this and a lot about "THAT", I wouldn't invest my time learning how to do that.         I would just want to set up an http server with PHP, and get my mysql going and thats it.03:45
luchenbillwow...?03:45
luchenbillzephyr yeah I see your point03:45
luchenbillnothing a simple fresh install can't fix I guess03:45
luchenbillhaha03:45
bastidrazorljsoftnet: how did you install it?03:45
r3mI always need to type my password twice to login, the first time it always said bad password. i reboot like 20 time and it always do that... is it because my home folder is crypted03:46
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zephyrI would only invest time on chroot is when I'm working on a live server OUTSIDE my home. Like if I was hired to work on a server for a friend then yea.. (Right now, I'm doing that and I'm using ISPConfig that will do all the security work for you).03:46
Xenethluchenbill, All I know of chroot is I use it to modify ISO's.  :P  not sure it's applications for security.  My opinion though is unless you have something out there for public use, or made some enemies, good port management and password will prevent those just sniffing around.03:46
k1dd1sasterchung...ya there?03:46
luchenbillcook Xeneth thanks for the advice03:46
elkyPlease turn off your 8-ball scripts03:47
k1dd1sasterit's off man...im just learning how to write scripts just making sure i was doing it right03:47
TheEvilPhoenixk1dd1saster:  there's test channels for that, not #ubuntu03:47
zephyrMy friend's server. I put ISPconfig on that.           On my own computer, I didn't. I just want to immediately test stuff.03:47
elkyk1dd1saster, don't test bots here03:48
TheEvilPhoenixk1dd1saster:  /join #test or something, or if its a bot, #botters-test03:48
ljsoftnetbastidrazor manually i mean by ./setup.py03:48
k1dd1sasterok thanks...i was actually gunna ask so i dont piss people off which channel i could join03:48
zephyrk1dd1saster: Or better yet,       #GoMakeYourOwnFriggenChannelLol03:48
elky8-ball: test03:49
DanFelky: A question please.03:49
KNUBBIG_elky: A question please.03:49
k1dd1sasteryo chung join #test03:49
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elkyDanF, KNUBBIG_ turn off your 8ball scripts03:49
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elkyNegiSpringfield, stop. You see my name in that list you're making the bot say? That means I'm an op.03:50
zephyrelky: A question please.03:50
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zephyr:P03:50
elkyzephyr, bad dog.03:50
bastidrazorfun.. trolls at it again.03:50
NegiSpringfieldwops are italians :p03:50
luchenbillwtf 8ball is oging on in here03:50
elkyNegiSpringfield, stop/03:50
bastidrazorljsoftnet: look at the documentation that came with it.03:50
NegiSpringfieldelky: stop waht03:51
NegiSpringfieldwhat03:51
ljsoftnetbastidrazor its not there03:51
elkyNegiSpringfield, being disruptive.03:51
NegiSpringfieldof what03:51
k1dd1sasterchung...03:51
k1dd1sastercpdude...03:51
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Guest50946Hello03:52
XenethLOL  was chatty, now I swear I can hear crickets.  :P03:54
Lasers*Chirp Chirp*03:56
r3m!resetpanel03:57
ubottuTo reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »03:57
XenethAnother one bites the dust....03:58
ChynekA good html editor?03:59
AmdpcChynek : gedit.  :P04:01
ChynekxD, I'm a newbie, I want something that make it easy04:01
XenethChynek, I use to use  notepad in windows when I took that class.  Crimson Editor was real good too.  You can get their source from their page.04:02
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a_p3rsonis there a way to have update manager ignore the release of 11.04?04:02
somsipChynek: if you need something that simple, try leafpad04:02
h0stingsomeone tells me how to set up an FTP04:02
hetalHello. I'm trying to use gmake, but it's not installed. I also can't find it in the maverick repos. Does that mean that I can't get it on 10.10?04:03
somsip!gmake04:03
Xenetha_p3rson, In software sources, you should see under updates tab "Release Upgrades".  Basicly set that to long term only.04:04
a_p3rsonbut that will ignore futures as well04:04
a_p3rsoni just dont really want to do 11.04, is there a way to ignore just that release?04:04
Xenetha_p3rson, It will ignore anything other then LTS.  When the next one comes out you can upgrade manually.  You will have to do 11.04 if you use the manager.04:05
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dfcnvtHi, I noticed my cursor or rather my typing onto the notepad or in browser tend to disappear and I cannot see where I am typing at.. I mean, I can type to something like this, "AAA" to grab my attention but most of the time whenever I move around with my arrow's button.. I can't see where I'm going.04:06
dfcnvtAny idea how to fix this?04:06
dfcnvtIt's not my cursor, it's the position where I'm destinated to type. (i'm sure u understand what i'm talking abt)04:07
dfcnvtAny idea?04:07
somsipdfcnvt: you can't see the 'insert' cursor?04:07
dfcnvtcorrect04:08
somsipMaybe this is a jumping off point: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy#Mouse_Cursor_Themes04:09
Legend_XeonSometimes on restart, ubuntu isnt able to detect Display monitor in System > Preferences > Monitors and shows crappy screen resolution.04:09
Legend_XeonAnd labels it "Unknown"04:10
Legend_XeonIs this hardware related issue?04:10
dfcnvtIt's not the cursor... it's the err.. position where I'm typing right now..04:10
zephyrUnrealPancake: Any luck?04:10
dfcnvt...okay, like if I ask you type left arrow right now then the action of a position where it moves to the left is what I'm talking about, it disappear, I can't see it.04:11
dfcnvtI can't see where it's going... I have to type AAA or DD to know where the heck I am then backspace it to go ahead and type04:12
somsipdfcnvt: in what applications?04:13
paulus68Hi Everybody, what are the requirements to install ubuntu over a network connection?04:14
dfcnvtgedit, geany, sometimes in terminal04:14
dfcnvtbrowser04:14
dfcnvtbasically overall application.04:14
dfcnvtSometimes it disappear then it reappear back to its normal state.04:14
dfcnvtIt's annoying me.04:14
db_namehi all04:15
db_namei am newbie for linux unix04:15
db_nameplease help me to config for server hostpot04:15
somsipdfcnvt: i don't know the answer. I find people having similar issues when searching, sometimes attributable to compiz. So you might have to research more if no one else here can help04:17
Xenethdfcnvt, Does it still happening after reboot?  May be a quick fix.04:17
luchenbillis it possible to watch netflix on ubuntu?04:20
Xenethluchenbill, that I would bet yes.  no proof though.04:21
saviorHURRRR04:21
Pilot_51I have a recurring problem with an unkillable zombie process (status zl) which gets inherited by init but never reaped, the only workaround to kill it that I know of is to reboot which is a bit annoying... any help?04:22
LasersXeneth: I'll take the bet. Now, find a proof.04:22
Xenethluchenbill, LOL  sorry, it's late over here in the states and I'm being lazy.04:23
luchenbilllol04:23
luchenbillay it is04:23
nathanelhello amigos! question: is ubuntu 32bit better in terms of battery life expectation?04:24
Lasersnathanel: If I have to guess, I'll say not at all. The laptop can be powered on without any OS.04:26
Xenethnathanel, as opposed to what?04:26
nathanelas opposed to amd64 build04:26
testerexit04:26
saviorDURR04:27
Xenethnathanel, I would guess no because 64bit is designed to optimize a 64-bit CPU, but it's just a guess.04:28
nathanelok04:29
nathanelbc the real issue is that i have an mx340 for which canon only provides i386 packages for.. and it keeps breaking my install04:30
nathaneli used to do --force-all -i with ia32-libs back on 10.04, 10,10 and 11.04.. but now its all gone to hell with new dependency names and so forth04:31
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saviorDURRR04:32
nathanelon another hand.. they do provide source in a tar.. i'd be willing to builf if it's any easier...04:32
saviorDURRR04:33
nathanelbuild if*04:33
Lasersnathanel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo04:33
nathanelLasers: thx04:34
UnrealPancakezephyr: its still downloading04:34
leftisthas anyone successfully installed Zoiper in 11.04?04:37
Lasersnathanel: If you don't depend heavily on the printer, toss it out. Inkjet is wasting your money. In fact, all printers probably are a waste of money. Sure, you print it sometimes... If you really need one, go with me (Lasers).04:37
leftistthey give the printers away like dealers give away crack but then they hook you on the ink04:38
leftisthas anyone successfully installed Zoiper in 11.04?04:39
XunieOkay, weird, I got one apache2 thread running as root, why on earth is that?04:40
XunieIs that normal?04:40
XunieI mean, it's the parent of all other apache2 processes, so I guess it spawns them.04:40
leftisti dunno04:41
nathanelLasers: i do depend on it...and if it was up to me i'd get a color laser.. but $$$$$$04:41
leftistthey still have you hooked04:41
Lasersnathanel: For your business?04:41
leftistunless you know how to get past the need to replace the color ink cuase most users onnly need black but htere is a trick to bypass replacing the useless colored inks04:42
nathanelLasers: school and personal projects04:42
leftisthas anyone successfully installed Zoiper in 11.04?04:42
nathanelLasers: i'm lost on the buil d:$04:42
nathanelbuild *04:42
Lasersnathanel: School provides labs. Labs provides printer. :304:42
Lasersnathanel: Maybe you're just that lazy. :<04:42
SetiAmonhey since switching from pulse to OSS4 my audio is 75% but does anyone know how to remove the remaining 25% audio distortion?04:43
nathanelLasers: my faculty sucks at that...04:43
Lasersnathanel: Nothing beats free.04:43
nathanelLasers: the printer isnt maintained properly and almost never functions04:43
Lasersnathanel: Report it to the school. Where are you stuck at (Compiling).04:44
nathanelLasers: im in the source dir, opened a term04:44
nathanelasked for make04:45
nathaneli get an error on all04:45
Pilot_51Nobody knows what to do about my zombie dilemma?04:45
nathanelLasers: get an error on all when make04:46
saviorDURRRR04:46
saviorHURRRRRRRRRRR04:46
paulus68what are the requirements to install ubuntu over a network connection?04:46
Laserssavior: /exit DURRRR ;o04:46
qinPilot_51: It is called zombie coz you cannot kill it. What process is it?04:47
saviorsorry i have a DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR tick04:47
SetiAmonWhat Delima?Zombies,kill em04:47
Lasersnathanel: You try ./configure ?04:47
savior./DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR04:47
gryerr?04:47
Pilot_51qin: GoogleTalkPlugi04:47
nathanelLasers: no such file or dir04:47
LasersThe only way to kill zombies is to nuke the whole playground. (sudo reboot)04:48
nathanelyou can d-ban them too lol04:48
SetiAmonI have zombieland dvr'd i should probably atch it all the way threw04:48
saviorDURRRRRRRRR04:48
nathanelLasers:.. back to compiling04:48
nathanelit sucks04:49
Pilot_51It crashed or something and I can't start it back up because apparently Google sees the zombie as the process already running04:49
qinPilot_51: And what browser? Does it have any parent?04:49
Lasersnathanel: Are you in correct path? Honestly, I'll just put the printer in the dark corner.04:49
LasersAnd get a decent Laser printer.04:49
a_p3rsonLasers: i like your analogy there04:49
a_p3rson(insert screaming mutated children with sand toys)04:49
XenethPilot_51, Google?  Chrome?04:49
Pilot_51qin: Firefox 3.0.204:49
grendal-primei hate printers04:49
grendal-primeof any cind04:50
grendal-primekind that is04:50
saviorDURRRRRRR04:50
Lasersnathanel: "Save as PDF" -- Visit a friend -- Use friend's printer.04:50
grendal-primei swear printer manufactures hat computer manufactures and vice versa...04:50
grendal-primeits like a contest to see who can piss the other off the most.04:50
Pilot_51After closing Firefox the zombie was inherited by init, but still doesn't get reaped as expected04:50
nathanelLasers: i get the point.... but i'd really like it for thr driver t work04:51
LasersPilot_51: Chromium is quite nice. Just saying.04:51
saviorHURRRRRRRRRRR04:51
qinPilot_51: You could test it with chromium, and in the end it should terminate (hard to say when).04:51
grendal-primeya but i know of 3 seriously important websites that chrom does not work on04:51
grendal-primeadp being the biggie04:51
cantoos?04:51
nathaneldoes installing ubuntu 32bit solve these types of issues? how bad is performance04:52
Pilot_51I had an issue with Google Chrome after a recent kernel update where my PC would freeze if I play a game after running Chrome. Haven't tried it in the most recent kernel or Chrome version though04:52
saviorHURRRRRRR04:52
cantoosyo04:52
Xenethgrendal-prime, Really?  I get my pay stub from adp, and it works on my chrome portable.04:52
Lasersnathanel: The performance are not noticeable between two architectures.04:52
nathanelok04:53
grendal-primemy timecard is on there..it will not let me enter anythying in the hour fileds04:53
qingrendal-prime: What cannot be serious website, since at least 10% of people using chrome.04:53
saviorDURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR04:53
nathanelso as long as pae is there.. i get my 8 gigs and stop fiddling with amd64 compat?04:53
nathanelLasers:so as long as pae is there.. i get my 8 gigs and stop fiddling with amd64 compat?04:53
zephyrUnrealPancake: Ah okies. Thought downloading would be done by now. Lol.04:53
grendal-primeits not just me ither mac users have the same problem...firefox works..but chrome does not04:53
zephyr@ UnrealPancake04:53
qingrendal-prime: Lazy webmaster do not make chrome bad browser.04:54
cantoosquit04:54
nathanelLasers: I'll vm beta2 32bit and see if it gives me any errors on the drivers04:54
SetiAmonits so strange.with jaunty and the beta drivers x-fi worked fine.yet since jaunty everything hasn't worked.staticy distorted etc.removing pulse audio and installing OSS4 helps a great deal but now i have no keyboard control of my sound.and there is still staticy stuff04:54
saviorDURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR04:54
nathanelif not.. i'll just dump amd6404:54
Lasersnathanel: Sure since you don't want to part with the printer.04:54
nathanelwell, I do wanna keep 64 bit... everything works out of box except for it .... even logitech is beinf nice now :)04:55
nathanelbeing*04:55
nathanelLasers: well, I do wanna keep 64 bit... everything works out of box except for it .... even logitech is being nice now :)04:55
paulus68what are the requirements to install ubuntu over a network connection?04:55
nac-godfatheranyone know how I can forcefully kill a process when kill and xkill fail to stop the runaway...04:56
grynac-godfather, kill -9 ID ?04:56
grendal-primeqin ? adp?04:56
nac-godfatherPXE server, pretty in depth04:56
Lasersnathanel: Well. It's just a printer. You can determine if it's worth the hassle.04:56
grendal-primehttp://www.viewpoints.com/ADP-reviews04:56
Lasersnathanel: You're likely to face the same issue again and again in the future. :)04:56
nac-godfathertried it once for a couple nights, but gave up.04:56
grendal-primechrom does not work on adp pages i have to work with..and i have to be able to log in.04:56
grendal-primeso i have firefox installed for that reason alone04:56
grendal-primeim just saying04:57
wildbatpaulus68: that's you have two computers with working NIC :)04:57
nathanelLasers: i know that.. i'm aware of the coming trouble with future releases.. but i do depend on it's scanner feature too04:57
nessonicIs there a way to run a command through SSH locally?04:57
ShikhinThis is really weird. Something was leaking, and I had only few MiB of free space remaining. Somebody suggested me to use Bleachbit, and I did. However, recently, I find that I run bleachbit and in few seconds th free space drops from 12GiB to 12MiB.04:57
ShikhinHELP.04:57
Shikhin:-)04:58
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gryShikhin, with ?04:58
Shikhingry: With my problem I described in the previous line.04:58
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Shikhin(prior to that HELP)04:58
zephyrShikhin: Ugh. No.04:58
nathanelgry: his memory leak using bleachbit04:58
gryah04:59
zephyrShikhin: Actually, we just can't assist you with anything anyway unless we know YOUR "issue"...04:59
Lasersgrendal-prime: Have you used agent strings for Chromium?04:59
qingrendal-prime: The link was rofl, for real.04:59
nathanelcan anyone build me an amd64 package.. im lost...04:59
paulus68wildbat: well that's obvious but is there a nice howto or tutorial that can come in handy to set this up ;)05:00
Shikhinzephyr: See, I have a 320GiB hard disk. I have split it into four partitions, with one dedicated to Ubuntu. On this one, I store almost nothing, except the "usual" stuff. I expect it to have around 15-20 GiB free. However, recently, I found out that it had nly 32 MiB free space left. Sinec I don't store much on it, I was surprised. I asked on this channel, and somebody said that BleachBit could "wipe out" unneccessary data. I ran BleachBit, and wo, I had 12.05:01
ShikhinAnd, the cycle continues.05:01
TeamColtraWhen does the Beta2 spin become available?05:01
ShikhinI hope that was clear enough..05:01
TeamColtraIs it timed... or is it kinda "sometime today"05:02
wildbat!netboot| paulus68, you just asked what are the requirement ;p anyway read this.05:02
ubottupaulus68, you just asked what are the requirement ;p anyway read this.: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate05:02
glebihannathanel, sorry didn't follow from the beginning... what is the problem exactly ? you have a 32 bits package that you want to install on a 64 bits system ?05:02
LasersTeamColtra: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule05:02
TeamColtraLasers, yes, it says today05:02
UnrealPancakezephyr: I have slow download speeds >_>05:03
zephyrShikhin: I'm not understanding the purpose.    So basically you have a buttload of things on you harddrive, and only have 32MBs left?05:03
LasersTeamColtra: It's Sept 22, 12:03AM.  Three minutes into today. You'll get it today when they're tying things up into knots.05:03
XenethShikhin, I seem to remember bleachbit fills the partition up completly then deletes it as a way to make sure the deleted files cannot be recovered..  May be what you are seeing.05:03
zephyrWeird to have sooo many partitions. o_O05:03
ShikhinBasically, I have nothing on my 80GiB partition, and free space automagically drops from 12GiB to 32MiB in few minutes.05:04
Shikhin(nothing as in, not much)05:04
nathanelglebihan: yes.. its my mx340 drivers.. i used to do dpkg --force-all -i with ia32libs installed and everything would work great for the past 3 releases.. now it breaks my package install whenever i set them up that way.. even though they function..  I also have the source but have no idea how to compile05:04
zephyrXeneth: AH THOSE THINGS. A Permanent file deleter.05:04
ZafotheNinjaHey all I'm new XD05:04
LasersTeamColtra: You can get it from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ -- when it's released -- you should get the same thing.05:04
TeamColtraLasers, I was under the understanding that Ubuntu is based in Europe (primarily) if thats the case then it is 6:04AM now I am not trying to be impatient I was just wondering if its a "when it's ready" thing or if there was a planned release time for it05:05
zephyrShikhin: Why? Is it a software that purposely fill up your harddive to overwrite permanent?05:05
XenethShikhin, zephyr, it's not a nuke, it's for an active partition.  I used it once.  It caused problems before, but that is one thing I do remember.05:05
glebihannathanel, isn't there a README or INSTALL file in the source package ? could you post a link to that source package ?05:05
ShikhinOk. Leave everything out. In short: Free space on my hard disk seems to be decreasing automagically every moment.05:06
LasersTeamColtra: There are no planned release time. Yeah. Most likely "when it's ready"05:06
saviorlol automagically05:06
saviorawesome05:06
zephyrShikhin: So what's really the purpose of that software that is doing that?05:06
Shikhinzephyr: Urm. I don't know what is doing that. If I did, why would I be asking here?05:06
Xenethhttp://bleachbit.sourceforge.net/05:07
LasersTeamColtra: Not to mention they're going to wait until all mirror sites get it first. That was from my experience with Ubuntu Final Releases.05:07
XenethThe filling of the hard drive is an attempt to hide the deleted files.  Privacy for that portion05:07
zephyrShikhin, well, if theres nothing important on those partitions, I would just reformat it.05:07
TeamColtraLasers, thanks so since the "last date modified" shows today -- is that technically Beta2?  really I am more concerned because last time I did Alpha2 release and for whatever reason my system didn't like the changes when I switched to Beta1 (which is acceptable I know those risks when I download alpha/beta) and I had to re-install... but my current OS is like dying on me so instead of reinstalling I would rather just upgrade05:07
nathanelglebihan: nope... thats what bugs me... http://support-au.canon.com.au/P/search?model=PIXMA+MX340&menu=download&filter=0&tagname=g_os&g_os=Linux05:08
Shikhinzephyr: I have Ubuntu installed on that partition - which shows that error.05:08
ShikhinAnd the problem ISN'T caused by BleachBit.05:08
ShikhinI used BleachBit AFTER I observed the problem - to clean stuff up.05:08
zephyrShikhin:  Harddrives are like               STONE WALLS.       You write data. You delete it.     You can recover it, The only way to make sure no one can recover it, you have to damage the entire stone wall.05:09
paulus68wildbat: thx05:09
LasersTeamColtra: That can be. We won't know. Maybe we should download hashes.txt and wait until later for comparison. :)05:09
* Shikhin does a facepalm.05:09
ShikhinHow is that related ANYWHERE to my problem?05:09
Pilot_51Got another question: Maybe I just don't understand it, but why doesn't memory usage in System Monitor add up as expected? Example: java (Eclipse) is taking 904.2 MiB memory, 1.8GiB virtual memory, 947.4 MiB resident memory; total usage is 2.6 GiB physical and 244 KiB swap05:09
beav_35Is there any way to get promiscuous mode to work with ath9k drivers?05:09
TeamColtraI will just make the dive... :)05:10
XenethShikhin, If it was the swap file, I would think it was a memory leak, but that FS isn't a leak05:10
Lasers!memory | Pilot_5105:10
ubottuPilot_51: If you are wondering why some tools report your system has very little free memory, have a look at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ | A short primer on Linux memory management can be found here: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html05:10
TeamColtraNo guts, no glory eh?05:10
Pilot_51For one, I'd expect "memory" to be physical+virtual05:10
zephyrShikhin: A software purposely writes random useless junk data filling up your harddrive, to OVERWRITE  "freespace".  So it will not be possible to recover deleted files from "freespace".05:10
wildbatShikhin: du to seek what is eating the space ~05:10
LasersTeamColtra: Use zsync so you shouldn't have to download the whole ISO once Beta2 came out.05:10
Shikhinzephyr: How does that relate to my problem, again?05:11
Shikhinwildbat: How do I get to know what is eating up that space?05:11
glebihannathanel, having a look, give me a few minutes05:11
nathanelglebihan: sur05:12
zephyrShikhin: You mentioned something is Eating up your harddrive. I can not imagine any linux software that would do that other than a Permanent file deletion tool.05:12
nathanelsur05:12
nathanelglebihan: sure*05:12
XenethShikhin, I wich I could remember where it was, but Gnome has a pie chart that will show you what is taking up your HDD space.  May want to look into that.05:12
Jef91where can I get the beta discs for 11.10?05:12
Xenetherr wish05:12
Pilot_51Lasers: I'm grazing through those pages but it doesn't seem to apply to my question05:13
zephyrShikhin, Why not just read a file that's occupying your diskspace to figure out what it is. o_o05:13
wildbatShikhin: if a folder / file eat 60+GB you will know . and lsof  to find the bad naughty process. or what Xeneth said if you wanna GUI.05:13
Shikhinzephyr: The problem occured before I started using Bleachbit (which I used to try to solve the problem - clearing up space).05:13
harry_Jef91:its not available on net...05:13
ShikhinBrb.05:13
Jef91harry_ don't spread trash05:13
zephyrLOL... Omg, seriously. I would had just deleted the problem and "continue on" with "clearing up space". Sheesh.05:14
glebihannathanel, btw, before trying to compile, did you try --force-architecture instead of --force-all ?05:14
zephyrOr kill programs that has high ammount of memory usesage,05:14
LasersPilot_51: I googled. http://goo.gl/ZNcdp05:14
nathanelglebihan: will try05:14
jcapinchey, can anyone suggest a generic "chat" irc room that actually has people on it?05:14
Xenethzephyr, I think the issue was that he didn't know what was causing the proble, what file/folder was using the space.05:15
Lasersjcapinc: #defocus05:15
XenethI cannot type.  ... well, since it is 1am, I guess it's understandable.05:16
Pilot_51Basically the 2 main things I want a clear answer on is how to find the total physical+swap memory usage of a process in System Monitor and why does virtual memory usage not fit with swap usage?05:16
nathanelglebihan: it still asks for install -f05:16
jcapincThank you Lasers05:16
zephyrXeneth: He/she is in terminal? He could has used a command to see a list of files with "sizes".05:17
harry_Jef91: what u mean frnd??05:17
glebihannathanel, first purge the package, then run "sudo apt-get install -f" then dpkg --force-architecture05:17
nathaneldid it05:17
Xenethzephyr, true, not sure how comfortable he/she is with CLI05:17
nathanelglebihan: did that05:18
zephyrAnd being outside of CLI, is a whole lot easier.05:18
UnrealPancakezephyr: Im trying ti now. I hope it works.05:18
XenethThat's why I suggested the graph, but I do not know it's location, so maybe not so much help.  :P05:19
Pilot_51Lasers: This is about inconsistencies between displayed process memory usage and displayed total memory usage, not disappearing memory or inconsistencies between top and System Monitor (I have a decent understanding of cache/buffers)05:19
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LasersPilot_51: Yes. I have nothing to say about it. It could be just delays.05:19
glebihannathanel, ok then i'll have a look at the source05:20
Pilot_51What delays could that be?05:20
zephyrUnrealPancake:  Do one of the following:        1. Clear the USB drive (Make necessary back ups).                       Or 2.          You could       simply   Make a folder in your USB.  move all files and folders (and hidden ones) to that new folder.05:20
LasersPilot_51: Reporting time. I really don't know. ;X05:20
UnrealPancakezephyr: wait, what?05:20
Pilot_51Virtual memory is the same as swap, right?05:20
XenethPilot_51, The GUI would update every 5 sec for example, and the CLI would be from pressing enter.05:20
XenethThat's where the delay could come from.05:21
zephyrUnrealPancake:   In case you have things in your USB.                     Back it up.  Clear USB.05:21
Guest68263I can't download Adeskbar? It 404 not found?05:21
Jef91where can I get the the early discs of 11.10 from?05:21
Pilot_51I'm looking at everything in System Monitor which updates every 5 seconds currently05:21
glebihannathanel, all you should have to do to compile is extract the tarball then cd to the created folder and run "make" then "sudo make install"05:21
zephyrUnrealPancake:             OR                 --       1. Make a folder in your USB.            2.       Move all files/folders to your new folder.05:22
nathanelglebihan.. normally yes.. but it doesnt05:22
zephyrUnrealPancake: That's TWO ways to prepare your USB.05:22
glebihannathanel, meaning ? what errors do you get ?05:22
Guest68263I can't download Adeskbar.It says 404 not found?05:22
zephyrUnrealPancake: Do you now understand?05:22
UnrealPancakezephyr: Im using the USB installer or whatever05:22
nathanelglebihan: error all ** stop05:22
UnrealPancakezephyr: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-Installer/Universal-USB-Installer.exe05:22
UnrealPancakethat05:22
zephyrUnrealPancake, ah okay.05:23
XenethPilot_51, Virtual = Swap.  True05:23
UnrealPancakezephyr: I hope im doing it right lol05:23
glebihannathanel, there must be messages before that. Could you pastebin the full output ?05:23
UnrealPancakezephyr: I got error: Cannot delete output file D:\Ubuntu05:23
UnrealPancakewhats that?05:24
Pilot_51Xeneth: So why do most of my processes show virtual memory usage in the hundreds of MiB while total swap usage just shows 244 KiB?05:24
zephyrUnrealPancake: Okay, just use unetbootin then.05:24
XenethPilot_51, Not a guru in linux, so not sure.  What command you using?05:25
nathanelglebihan: http://pastebin.com/nJqxnC9805:25
UnrealPancakehuh?05:25
Pilot_51Xeneth: No command, just looking at System Monitor with most of the Memory columns enabled05:25
zephyrUnrealPancake: YOu have a problem right?  I'm not familar with that software,   I use   unetbootin.sourceforge.net                       To put Ubuntu onto my USB flash drive.05:25
UnrealPancakeoh well ill try this and if not ill come back k?05:25
zephyrOkay.05:26
banpdtr_Hi all , Can I send message through command line (in Ubuntu) to specific user in pidgin ??05:27
zephyrbanpdtr_: Visit #Pidgin          Who told you that was possible?05:27
banpdtr_zephyr:  I believe that it is possible :)05:28
XenethPilot_51, My system monitor only had Memory (RAM) and Swap (VMemory)05:28
zephyrbanpdtr_: Wait, what the heck? You didn't even tell us what proticol you're sending too. What would be a good USE-CASE for that? Like what's the purpose? What's the point in that?05:29
zephyrMSN? Yahoo? Facebook? IRC? XAMPP?05:29
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zephyrO_O05:29
Pilot_51Xeneth: Yeah that's in the Resources tab, it's the Processes tab where I'm not sure what the memory values exactly mean05:29
XenethPilot_51, are you talking about the processes?05:29
wzssyqahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/694957/  why the awk doesn,t work here?05:29
banpdtr_zephyr: XMPP05:30
zephyrbanpdtr_: I do not quite understand how this is going to work. Or even the purpose.05:30
XenethPilot_51, I think that memory is not current, but accumulative.  How much it has loaded from the start.  Mine is just rising only.05:31
Axlin|MBbanpdtr_: Look at the script at the end of this thread. Apparently it's doable, but with that script specifically, you have to have X server running, and the chat window has to be open as well. - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-968221.html05:31
Axlin|MBbanpdtr_: I do also know that there are purple-based CLI IM clients as well. Not Pidgin, but they're based on Purple, like Pidgin.05:31
XenethPilot_51, NvM, it just dropped.05:31
Pilot_51Xeneth: Hmm... Well I've seen it drop before, though the one I monitor the most is Firefox which is notorious for memory leaks (I constantly need to restart it because memory gets full and starts using swap)05:32
Axlin|MBbanpdtr_: Finch, that's what I was thinking of. I couldn't think of an example on the spot. :-)05:32
darbehi guys05:32
zephyrbanpdtr_: Try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=968221       "Finch is a console-based IM program that lets you sign on to AIM, Jabber, MSN, Yahoo!, and other IM networks. It runs on Unixes. It uses GLib and ncurses. "05:33
darbeis there any handy irc software for ubuntu?05:33
banpdtr_yeah.. I am looking at that.. there are some tools like purple-send and purple-remote05:33
banpdtr_:)05:33
Pilot_51darbe: I'm using XVIrc and I love it05:33
Axlin|MBdarbe: Plenty! I use XChat myself. But there are several alternatives available in Software Center.05:33
zephyrbanpdtr_: So you just then need documentations and tutorials/Examples.05:33
Lasers!irc | darbe05:33
ubottudarbe: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines05:33
XenethPilot_51, The Mem in the processes is RAM.  Some may go to SWAP, but it's MEMORY + SWAP05:34
darbei want to have something  like05:34
darbeit should pop up when somebody write05:34
zephyrdarbe: Popup? O_O05:34
darbethis room is crowded05:35
darbebut other rooms05:35
XenethIt's a PARTY!!!!05:35
Pilot_51Xeneth: If I remember correctly, resident memory = physical memory, which is usually slightly higher than memory05:35
darbefor instance i use konversation05:35
Pilot_51Another source of confusion05:35
darbeit is flashing05:35
alchemyhow to set  proxy in ubuntu 11 can any one help me05:36
zephyrdarbe: Use XChat.         Xchat does all what an average user wants to do over IRC. Even make scripts for XCHAT bot & such enhancements using Perl/Python and other languages.05:36
Axlin|MBdarbe: If I'm interpreting that correctly, It's possible with XChat to have channel-specific popup & sound notifications when there's chat activity. I'm sure other clients are capable of the same.05:36
XenethPilot_51, Physical memory is memory.  Only reason it's normally lower because the OS uses some.05:36
darbeok thx i will try05:36
zephyrdarbe: If you want that, use Konversation (Although it's a KDE app, it does install well on Ubuntu).05:37
Pilot_51darbe: I used to use XChat, but I didn't like how it lacked good notifications for mentions, which I found KVIrc to do acceptably05:37
darbetu05:37
zephyrI personally like Konversation more than KVIRC.05:37
alchemy how to set  proxy in ubuntu 11 can any one help me05:37
darbeyeah it is poping up05:38
darbecan I see last ten?05:38
zephyralchemy: System -> Preferrences -> Network Proxy05:38
darbebecause it only shows last line05:38
zephyrdarbe, I just like Konversation more.05:39
darbeme either05:39
darbebut I need to take care of it05:39
darbeI should open each time05:39
zephyrIt does "last messages", you can pick how many lines it should be for last said messages.      Konversation is better for notifications.05:39
darbeok let;s try05:40
zephyrYou can hide Konversation in your tray.05:40
zephyrIt's Very configurable.05:40
zephyrIdentity list is to DIE FOR.05:40
darbepop up?05:40
zephyrThat xchat lacks darbe.05:41
zephyrPopup like "new window"?05:41
darbeno05:41
zephyrOr Highlighters? Notification popup?05:41
zephyrIt does that.05:41
darbesmall wnidows05:41
darbewindow on the corner05:41
darbeor some where05:41
Pilot_51Xeneth: I guess what's really needed is proper documentation on exactly what the columns mean. It's not in the help files and so far haven't found anything online.05:41
zephyrYes. Althought tht's not a window. That's Notification.05:41
zephyrFading away message, that sorta thing.05:42
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darbewhere is it?05:42
zephyrIt even makes sounds and you can pick what soudns it will make depending on What Happens on IRC.05:42
darbei found it05:42
darbeit should be defaulrt05:43
darbe:D:D05:43
Pilot_51Xeneth: It's clear that they don't mean what I (and albeit most people) think they mean, especially the virtual memory column which adds up to be much higher than total physical+swap usage05:43
zephyrdarbe, it makes popups like this: http://gadgetinspiration.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/gmailnotifier.jpg          <---- Notification boxes.05:43
zephyrdarbe, you will LOVE this irc client, trust me.                 My only complaint is that this is made for KDE.05:44
darbethank you05:44
XenethPilot_51, True, but that's linux in general.  I believe the memory column in processes is revering memory usage.  Makes no distinguation between physical or swap.05:44
darbei enable it  but i don't see05:44
darbe:S:S05:44
zephyrSomeone should Fork and make a GTK/Gnome or something VERY LIGHT version of KDE.05:44
zephyrLike an Xchat but better.05:45
darbe_try05:45
zephyr^Konversation IRC client I speak of.05:45
darbe_try05:45
zephyrGonversation or something.05:45
Pilot_51darbe: This might help too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_clients05:45
glebihanzephyr, should it be called Gonversation ?05:45
zephyrglebihan: Nah, That term was only to glue an idea to anyone's mind.05:46
darbe_try05:46
darbe_try05:46
darbe_tt05:46
XenethPilot_51, LOL  it's late, and my typing is going down hill.  :P05:46
FloodBot1darbe_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:46
XenethI'm out people.  Night05:46
darbe_YAHOOO IT WORKS05:46
darbe_linux is crazy05:46
Pilot_51Xeneth: night05:47
darbe_i just though it founded long time ago05:47
zephyrI would prefer to call it something else. Not make it for gnome, but something  like how XCHAT & Chatzilla made their IRC client.05:47
zephyrI tried to make an IRC cleint, but failed.05:48
darbe_zephyr<<<< thanks a lot05:48
zephyrYou're welcome.05:48
zephyrdarbe_, edit your "Identification" list, you'll then see why Konversation is so sexy.05:49
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zephyrA personal profile, a set of nicknames and all that jazz for each irc network you go to, and you can duplicate that too.05:50
glebihanzephyr, a quick look at Konversation... and I'd say it's pretty much impossible to port it to gtk05:51
zephyrglebihan: Very true, I would better off Make that client from SCRATCH.   Starting by making it have features like Konversation. BUT let it handle text like Xchat05:53
Pilot_51Ah, I remember why I didn't try Konversation despite being so good. Didn't want to install the kde dependencies05:53
zephyrPilot_51: Exactly!!!05:53
Pilot_51So... KVIrc, from what I've tried, is the best IRC client for Gnome05:54
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ninwaPilot_51, really, not xchat?05:54
zephyrThey hadn't released a stable for like a year now going on to two.05:54
zephyrninwa: Xchat got that stupid window-ing system.05:54
Pilot_51ninjah: Really, I used XChat for maybe a year, wasn't satisfied with it05:54
ninwazephyr, not sure what you're talking about05:54
ninwaPilot_51, hm, I guess my needs are simpler than yours05:54
zephyrPilot_51: The ONLY thing good about KVIRC is    a more detailed customization, and IRC-Log viewer.05:55
zephyrOr and scripting.05:55
glebihanscripting works well in xchat05:55
zephyrninwa: That dumb Tabs system.          The first channel window being Status window. Some crap like that.05:55
Myrtti!offtopic05:55
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!05:55
Pilot_51It has a really nice way to separate channel system messages (join/part/etc) from the chat05:56
ninwaI guess I don't spend enough time caring about my IRC client :p05:56
Pilot_51But as I said, my main problem with XChat was a lack of decent mention notifications05:56
ninwaPilot_51, there's probably a plugin for that, but it highlights the chan in the treeview as blue05:57
gnosisi just installed a new 1TB hdd and formatted it as ext3.  nautilus is showing 46.8GB used, 870.1GB free (917GB total size).  df -h shows 200M used, 871GB available.  anyone know what could be taking up those 46GB?05:58
Pilot_51ninwa: Wasn't enough for me... anyway we should respect the offtopic warning05:58
ninwaPilot_51, im too new here to argue with that ;)05:59
cyphadoes ubuntu have hibernate?05:59
urlin2ugnosis, the amount on the box and actual is aboit that difference.05:59
urlin2uabiut05:59
glebihancypha, yes05:59
cyphaglebihan, how do I do it?05:59
cyphasudo hibernate 0?05:59
ninwacypha, or click hibernate in the system menu (upper right, the power icon)05:59
cyphafrom the Cl05:59
cyphaCL06:00
glebihancypha, I think it's "pm-hibernate" (never used it though)06:00
urlin2ugnosis, look at it with gparted.06:00
gnosisurlin2u: are you talking about the difference between advertised size and actual number of bytes?06:00
cyphaglebihan, you got it06:01
cyphathanks06:01
glebihancypha, you're welcome06:01
zephyrAlthough I know about hibernation, I never found a good usecase/point of hibernation. I do not even do that on my Windows machine.06:01
gnosisbecause i know about that.  it's showing total size as 917GB, which is what i expected06:01
ninwazephyr, uh, resume a session?06:01
urlin2ugnosis, yes I think you may be reading it wrong, hard to look at it with gparted and see if there is 46 gigs of data.06:01
gnosisbut after that, it's showing 46GB as used.  i don't understand what could be using that much space on a brand new drive06:01
zephyrUnless it's to save a bit of electricity.06:01
zephyrOr move the computer to another location.06:02
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kleopatraHello, is Lapack++ 2.5.2 up to date?06:03
ninwaim always mixing up hibernate / suspend, I know one only keeps memory powered, the other writes to hd and shuts down06:03
gnosisurlin2u: gparted shows size=931GB, used=15GB, unused=917GB06:03
ninwasleep is another term used sometimes06:03
gryninwa: hibernate wipes to hdd06:03
ninwagry, okay :)06:03
gry:)06:03
zephyrninwa: I never got the suspend option to work, what's the real purpose behind it. After I try doing that, I'm locked out my computer and cant do anything with it except force shut down.06:04
gnosisurlin2u: then nautilus shows total capacity as 917GB, 46GB used, and 870GB free06:04
ninwazephyr, the idea is you dont have to post, so you save on time from "power button clicked to in your environment"06:04
urlin2ugnosis, so nothing is on it at all?06:04
zephyrninwa: Before  I force shut down I would tap the power button and see if anything special happens. Nothing happened.06:05
gnosisurlin2u: no, bought brand new from newegg.  i just took it out of the box, installed, and formatted as ext306:05
ninwazephyr, it may be turned off in your bios06:05
zephyrOkay, then that's something to look up in mmy boios later.06:06
urlin2ugnosis, open it hit ctrl-h to show hidden,maybe there is a trash hidden, not sure really.06:06
Kartagisgood morning. I have a problem with pnopaste. it doesn't highlight syntax. help me?06:07
gnosisurlin2u: did that.  there's only an empty lost+found folder.  du -sh shows it as 16K06:08
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melvincv_Hi06:10
gryhi melvincv_06:11
gnosisso gparted shows 15GB used, nautilus shows 46GB, df shows 200MB, du shows 20K,06:11
gnosisgparted says 917GB free, everything else says 870GB06:11
melvincv_I have Ubuntu 11.04. Empathy keeps changing my status to away after 1 or 2 minutes. How may I prevent this?06:12
ninwaIs there a way to disable the overlay scrollbars in 11.04?06:13
urlin2ugnosis, why ext3?06:13
urlin2uninwa, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-disable-overlay-scrollbars-in.html06:14
gnosisurlin2u: why not?  is there a more appropriate file system to use?06:14
androidTedcan you ignore/hide JOINs messages from Empathy?06:14
wildbathow to enable overlay scrollbars on 10.04 :p06:15
urlin2ugnosis, not sure the OS is ext4.06:15
ninwaexample #232413 of something that should be accessible via a systems settings gui.06:15
gnosismy OS drive is ext306:15
melvincv_Let me see if there are any Empathy settings in gconf-editor...06:15
melvincv_Hope this can prevent Empathy from setting my status to away all the time :(06:16
urlin2ugnosis, you running windows as well? the partitions changed to ext4 a while back06:16
urlin2unot much difference just curious06:18
melvincv_Oops, I can't find empathy in gconf-editor :( Really sad that  can't customize it. Linux is all about customization, right?06:18
urlin2umelvincv_, yeah and knowing what your doing.:D06:18
gnosisurlin2u: yeah, have a ntfs partition on the same drive with xp installed06:19
melvincv_@urlin2u:  Can you help me with my issue?06:20
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urlin2umelvincv_, never used it I see on the web though that others seem to have that problem.06:24
melvincv_urlin2u, thanks.06:25
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gnosisurlin2u: figured it out: http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=10217506:28
gnosis5% of space reserved for superuser06:28
h2010nhi06:30
kokozedmanhey guys, i'm programming a software that connects to a single host, but i have several ppp routes/gateways and i want to use them as to make use of all bandwidth... any ideas?06:30
wildbatkokozedman: bind the connections to different IPs of the NICs, (assuming each have route to the targeted IP).06:33
kokozedmani'm able to do it partially using nexthop (ip), but only one single route is used at a time, then when i stop the program, then the next one is used06:33
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kokozedmanwildbat, i thought of doing that, but that wouldn't be flexible at all, because the PPP links comes and go06:34
kokozedmanit would be much more efficient to just have the program send to one single host, then it is up to the system to just alternate via the available routes/gateways06:35
wildbatkokozedman: unless you have a single public routable ip for you local PC and do balance with routing ~ rethink your protocol.06:37
|Gff|can somebody explain why  xfs_rtcp /root/1.mpg /mnt/1/ew_media   does not work in ubuntu  but works in opensuse06:39
kokozedmanwildbat, it's a pretty easy application, and is just a client-server UDP... are you knowledged about the ip route ... nexthopt ... nexthop? because it is already working, but i have to flush the route very frequently for that...... i could also do it if found a way to just flush the route to that specific host06:40
kokozedmani don't have enough knowledge programming this kind of route flushing06:41
kokozedmanso, i thought i'd ask if anyone knows.... in C06:41
|Gff|can somebody explain why  xfs_rtcp /root/1.mpg /mnt/1/ew_media  command does not work in ubuntu  but works in opensuse06:44
wildbatkokozedman: i think you just need to bind to the IP ~ the network should take care of it ~ try in  ##c  that's for programming06:45
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|Gff|what linux kernel does 11.4 use06:50
faLUCEhi. Is it possible to have two /etc/rc.local files ? Or something similar06:52
|Gff|what linux kernel does 11.4 use06:55
urlin2u2.6.38-11 as of now06:56
|Gff|how do i get ubuntu with version 2.7 or higher07:05
Ibis|Gff|: That's old o.O07:05
Ibis|Gff|: Are you talking about Gnome / Unity?07:06
|Gff|no kernel version07:06
IbisAh those.07:06
rww|Gff|: There is no kernel 2.7. Linux changed versioning schemes a long, long time ago, and eventually went straight from 2.6 to 3.0.07:06
|Gff|oh07:07
|Gff|how do i get unbuntu with 3.0 then07:07
Myrtti|Gff|: why do you want it?07:07
rocco1LIST07:07
|Gff|because 3.0 fix a bug that i need07:07
|Gff|fixed07:07
IbisSummary: Besides a new version numbering scheme, Linux 3.0 also has several new features: Btrfs data scrubbing and automatic defragmentation...             <---- Defragmention?  o_O07:08
IbisI thought that was a windows only thing.07:08
|Gff|http://www.xfs.org/index.php/XFS_Status_Updates07:09
|Gff|ibis it says it fixed a xfs bug07:09
Ibis|Gff|: You might want to have a look here: http://techtimely.wordpress.com/2011/08/19/install-linux-kernel-3-0-on-ubuntu-11-04/07:14
|Gff|ibis why not just get ubuntu with 3.007:15
emri have script which i want to run every 09:09 am so i created cron job somethink like  -- 8 9 * * *  -- but its not working as i excepted, is there something wrong?07:15
Myrtti|Gff|: there is no release version of Ubuntu with 3.0 yet07:16
susundbergemr: Pass the full line please. Also check that the script is runnable for the user executing the cron07:16
Myrtti|Gff|: that's why07:16
emrsusundberg, sure, 8 9 * * * cd /var/www/project/ && /usr/bin/python manage.py updatecurrencies07:17
emrscripts running perfectly07:17
|Gff|myrtti  what about other distro?07:17
Myrtti|Gff|: if you can wait for few weeks there is a new release of Ubuntu with 3.0, or you could try the beta release; be aware tho that beta is beta, it may break other things, and it's not supported on this channel07:18
rabbi1guys, please help my GRUB is not loading07:19
IbisMyrtti: Wait, that will be Ubuntu 11.somethingNew     ?07:19
susundbergemr: and the problem excatly is that it seems like cron is not running the scripts or ?07:19
rwwIbis: 11.10. year.month07:20
MyrttiIbis: well, yes. Ubuntu has a new version every six months07:20
susundbergemr: do you get mail from the cron output -- checking that might give you hint what is going wrong. I usually prefer doing small scripts (say cron_run_this.sh) that contains the commands and keep the crontab clean07:20
susundbergemr: that is i not sure how the line "cd /var/www/project/ && /usr/bin/python manage.py" is handled -- the "&&" marks07:20
Ibisemr: Why   8 9 * * *?               SHouldn't it be: 9 9 * * * ?07:20
LasersIbis: 11.10 Beta2 should be coming out today.07:21
tensorpuddingwhat's the rules of freezes?07:21
tensorpuddingwill they fix the bugs that i've reported in beta 1...07:21
tensorpuddingi hope so07:21
IbisWhat's the difference between using        &              and      &&           in between terminal commands?07:21
emrsusundberg, i have something like this, command logging to db when execute, and its seems working in wrong time  on every 12:08:0207:21
MyrttiIbis: && waits for the first command to finish successfully07:21
tensorpudding&& is for AND07:22
IbisAh, that makes sense Myrtti.       And      & is a "do it at the same time" Sweet.07:22
rwwIbis: they do completely different things. & moves the aforementioned process to the background and runs the second one in parallel. && runs the second one when the first one is done if and only if the first one exits with a non-error return value07:22
emrIbis, i have a several scheduled command so its best slot to run07:22
tensorpuddingdoesn't it get the exit value of the first command and use that to determine whether to run the next, or something?07:22
rabbi1all of a sudden my ubuntu crashed (or kinda crashed) how can i solve it. nothing's working good... not even ALT-Ctrl-F1/ F2/ F307:22
emrohh men i didnt check server time, its utc, thanks susundberg i got the point07:23
ssargenntoHello all, got a WD external hdd that had a windows file system on it.. So i used gparted to format it with a ext4 file system but it says the hdd is owned by root and will not let me add/remove information on it.. I've tried changing permissions but no luck. Any ideas?07:24
IbisMyrtti: Speaking of the whole 3.0 linux kernal, no one decided to jump ubuntu to that to iron out any kernal related bugs?07:25
ikoniassargennto: could you please pastebin the output of "mount"07:25
MyrttiIbis: jump which ubuntu? btw kernal is something that was in Commodore 8-bit, in Linux it's kernel ;-)07:27
moskva!ops07:28
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Flannelmoskva?07:28
jpdsmoskva: Да?07:28
ssargenntoikonia, http://pastebin.com/C7h8xTq907:28
rabbi1how can i recover my ubuntu from crash , will other version LIVE CD will help me?07:30
ikoniassargennto: I assume the disk is the one on /media/EXTERNAL07:31
ikoniarabbi1: depends on the reason it crashed07:31
ssargenntoikonia, yeah /dev/sdb1 on /media/External07:31
ikoniassargennto: ok, so what is your username "tony" ?07:31
ssargenntoikonia, yup. correct07:31
ikoniassargennto: so "sudo chown -R tony:tony /media/External"07:32
rabbi1ikonia: may be virtualbox07:37
ikoniarabbi1: what ?07:37
iWangis there any way to add an action key in grub2 for one function!07:37
ssargenntoikonia, thank you very much kind sir. works great now :)07:37
ikoniaiWang: I don't think grub will support that as it's quite a dumb enviornment07:37
rabbi1ikonia: i had opened virtualbox and then openoffice application before it crashed. suddenly the screen went off. then i restarted,07:38
rabbi1now it says GRUB loading and doesn't load anything07:38
iWangjust add a hotkey to invoke a program or small os to do something07:38
ikoniarabbi1: do you get the grub menu ?07:38
rabbi1ikonia: nope,07:38
rabbi1"GRUB Loading" and then blank screen07:39
ikoniarabbi1: I wonder if your disk has failed, can you boot from a livecd and mount the disk ?07:39
rabbi1even unable to get ctrl+alt + f1/f207:39
rabbi1ikonia: trying that, burning a cd now07:39
ikoniarabbi1: you won't be able to use ctrl+alt on grub, it's not booted the OS yet07:40
rabbi1ikonia: yeah, now i can just see a cursor blinking on deep black screen07:40
killjoyHello All07:41
jefferyhello07:41
iWangikonia: i met before on BIOS+GPT system w/o biso_grub partition07:42
ikoniaiWang: then that's nothing to do with ubuntu07:42
killjoyIm looking for people to help me write some Linux information content onto my site07:44
ikoniakilljoy: try ##linux07:44
rabbi1ikonia: so, should check with CD now ?07:44
killjoyi did im just asking in here too07:44
ikoniarabbi1: at least see if you could mount it07:45
killjoyits www.planetrewired.com07:45
rabbi1ikonia: okies07:45
ikoniakilljoy: please don't ask in here, we only do ubuntu support discussion in here07:45
killjoyoh ok07:45
killjoysorry07:45
ikoniakilljoy: and you didn't just ask in ##linux - so please don't lie07:45
killjoywhats your prob07:45
killjoyi havent made it there yet07:46
ikoniakilljoy: then don't lie and say "I did ask in there, I'm asking here too"07:46
killjoy ok im sorry im going too07:46
killjoyis that better?07:46
ikoniayes07:46
SetiAmonAnyway to make the original X-fi beta drivers to work with latest linux07:48
AndroidLoverInSFcan anyone help, something on my ubuntu 10.10 is sharing my home dir as $username-home, example  john-home, and its readable by any pc!!  what's doing that?07:49
SimonJaisamba?07:49
SimonJaior smb07:49
SimonJai...maybe07:49
AndroidLoverInSFits not listed under the gui samba server config tool07:50
ikoniaAndroidLoverInSF: do you have a smb.conf file ?07:50
alterприавд07:50
AndroidLoverInSFyes07:51
idefixare you all highly gifted?07:51
AndroidLoverInSFno07:52
alterприветик07:52
scarleoIs there any way to see in beforehand if an update will require a reboot?07:54
DaBing001hello08:01
DaBing001the first time to come08:01
MyrttiDaBing001: welcome08:02
AndroidLoverInSFi look in /etc/smb.conf but cant find where its sharing that home dir. there's a [homes] section but thats not exactly it08:06
burghello. what is the best partition scheme for ubuntu server?08:07
Corey!best08:07
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.08:07
burga good partition scheme, then08:07
Myrttiburg: you need to be more precise with what you plan to do on that server08:07
burgweb server. multiuser08:08
Oskyhi LL08:08
Myrttiwe don't know what you are planning to do so we can't suggest anything08:08
SetiAmoncan anyone help me install the original beta drivers for x=fi.Pulse/oss4 is no where near as good as the original beta drivers.but they won't compile08:08
LasersIs XFCE faster than GNOME or is it more of a myth?08:09
Guest35270hi !08:09
LasersTo be honest, I don't care. Just something stable for the netbook.08:09
Guest35270i am on ubuntu 9.1008:09
gryLasers, both are stable for the netbook normally08:09
burgMyrtti, i intend to use it as a web server08:09
Guest35270and i want to upgrade release to 10.0.4.308:09
Guest35270but no release upgrade was proposed08:10
Guest35270how can i do the release ?08:10
Lasers!upgrade | Guest3527008:10
ubottuGuest35270: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade08:10
rww!eol08:10
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades08:10
rwwsecond link08:10
melvincv_I have a small doubt: Will Evolution get corrupt on upgrading ubuntu from 10.10 to 11.04?08:11
TeslaTonyLasers: My experience with XFCE vs GNOME 2.x is that XFCE is faster, though not by too much most of the time (unless you turn on wiggly windows). GNOME 3 seems a lot slower08:11
LasersGuest35270, melvincv_: Always make a backup! (Just because you ought to!)08:11
rwwmelvincv_: shouldn't do, but you should back up your files before upgrading as a general rule anyway08:11
* ActionParsnip misses karmic08:12
mosnoActionParsnip, how so08:12
ActionParsnipmosno: it was a good release08:12
LasersTeslaTony: I see. Thank you for the input.08:12
melvincv_'Backup Evolution settings' is an option, but what all does it back up?08:12
mosnoActionParsnip, how so08:12
melvincv_Does it backup my mail too?08:13
bilygates@TeslaTony Lasers I prefer XFCE over GNOME too, but I couldn't get vsync to work in xfce at all. :(08:13
Guest35270i have done all instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes08:13
Guest35270but always end with a "no new release found"08:13
TeslaTonyLasers: Give 'em both a try, though. You might find there's something in one that the other doesn't, that tilts the scales for you, like bilygates comment08:14
SetiAmonanything wrong with going back to a older version of ubuntu like jaunty?08:14
rwwSetiAmon: yes, you don't get security updates, or support here or officially08:14
SetiAmonI never had any problem with jaunty.would it be ok to go to 9.4 or 9.10?08:14
melvincv_Ok, how do I backup evolution completely, settings, contacts and mail?08:14
Guest352709.4 to 9.10 => OK08:14
LasersTeslaTony: I'm going to sell it. That's why. I was thinking about EasyPeasy. Something simple and hogging-free for netbook.08:14
Guest35270butr 9.10 -> 10.4.3 = no new release found08:15
melvincv_!ubuntu 11.1008:15
SetiAmoni don't see how i have perfect audio in jaunty and then in later versions sound is wrecked08:15
SetiAmonthat doesn't seem right.there must be a way to fix audio?08:15
Luke_007hi, i'm back08:16
TeslaTonyLasers, GNOME 2, XFCE, or LXDE. They're pretty headache-free08:16
vAneje08:16
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ActionParsnipSetiAmon: different drivers in the kernel, different alsa version08:21
sl00Gaah! I am going nuts! I have been compiling a program for days on one machine (using libc-2.12.1.so it seems), ftp'ing it to another machine and running it there. Now all of a sudden it complains about " /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found". How is that possible? I have not been doing any upgrades or anything on the machines!08:23
Besnik_bHello, I'm having a problem with my eeePC touchpad. It worked for few days after installing Ubuntu 11.04 (naty) and after trying a wireless mouse it stopped working. It looks like working while doing the login but stops after that. Any hint?08:24
Luke_007Could anybody tell me how to search a package accurately by using commend?08:24
mix228911hello08:25
mix228911good morning08:25
mix228911linux rocks08:26
ActionParsnipLuke_007: 'search a package' how do you mean?08:26
Luke_007when I using apt-cache search , a lot of package come out but not what I needed.08:26
OldBoyAdidashi, im interested in using ubuntu but havent used it yet08:26
ActionParsnipLuke_007: you can grep the output to reduce results08:26
Guest35270i can't upgrade to 10.0.4.308:26
Guest35270so i try to remove  / install update-core-manger08:26
Guest35270i have that: http://pastebin.com/aD6QdEcN08:26
ActionParsnipOldBoyAdidas: the install CD will allow you to test the OS without modifying your current OS08:26
Guest35270idea ?08:26
TeslaTonyOldBoyAdidas: What will it take to bring you over to the open source side? And yes, try the LiveCD. Or LiveUSB.08:27
mix228911rude boy08:27
luca_salve a tutti, qualcuno può aiutarmi?08:27
Luke_007ActionParsnip Oh, I'll try then08:27
ActionParsnipGuest35270: did you add the lines t sources.list like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades  says to?08:28
luca_hello everyone, can someone help me?08:28
rww!it08:28
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)08:28
ActionParsnipluca_: with details, yes. Otherwise no08:28
Guest35270I am in 9.1008:28
rwwGuest35270: what's the output of uname -a?08:29
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ActionParsnipGuest35270: same method08:29
Guest35270root@ltsp_a31:~# uname -a08:29
Guest35270Linux ltsp_a31 2.6.31-23-generic #75-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 18 18:16:06 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux08:29
elfrannejoin #perl08:29
rwwthat disproves my theory, then08:29
blinkizHello. Am using ubuntu 11.04. The Network icon is missing from the unity panel. Network is also not working. Please advice08:30
LasersLTS ._.08:30
LasersLTSP*08:30
ActionParsnipGuest35270: the page I gave the link to shows how to upgrade. Personally I would just clean install Natty, or even Oneiric08:30
mix228911rude boy08:30
Guest35270ok update-manager-core installed but no more new release found08:30
rwwmix228911: something we can help you with?08:30
Guest35270it's a production server08:30
luca_i am using ubuntu 11.04, my problem is that i recived a cad file via mail, when i try to open it with a cad software i get the message "impossible to open the file check the permissions08:30
ActionParsnipGuest35270: read the page I linked, it tells you everything you need to know08:31
Guest35270i can clean install08:31
Guest35270can't*08:31
Guest35270i do every thing08:31
Guest35270but no new release proposed08:31
ActionParsnipGuest35270: did you read the link at all?08:31
Guest35270yes08:32
Luke_007ActionParsnip e.g I wanna install a package named "DIA", I'm using command apt-cache search dia. Other packages whose name contains "dia" come out also.08:35
ActionParsnipLuke_007: if you want to install dia then run:  sudo apt-get install dia08:35
ActionParsnipLuke_007: you don't need to search for it as you already know the package name08:35
angelete2hi08:37
grandonhmm08:37
angelete2i'm using ubuntu server 11.04 and i'm getting some performance problems08:37
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Luke_007Oh, it works! Before it is installed. It shows what packages will be installed. Thanks a lot08:37
ActionParsnipLuke_007: np :)08:37
grandonsystem info?08:37
Luke_007:)08:37
ActionParsnipangelete2: in which app or just generally?08:38
angelete2i've installed into a virtual machine with 512Mb RAM (it's not so much, but i thought it was enough) and my apache sometimes refer me problems allocating memory08:38
scarleoIs there any way to see in beforehand if an update will require a reboot?08:39
angelete2i have another VM with fedora 7 256Mb and it works right08:39
luca_i am using ubuntu 11.04, my problem is that i recived a cad file via mail, when i try to open it with a cad software i get the message "impossible to open the file check the permissions08:40
ActionParsnipangelete2: 512Mb should be ok for a web box imho08:40
scarleoI mean I know kernel updates require reboot but I mean like apt telling me before installing that the update will require a reboot08:40
ActionParsnipluca_: does your user have read access to the file?08:40
angelete2ActionParsnip, i thought so, but i don't know why i'm getting this errors08:41
ActionParsnipangelete2: have you asked in #ubuntu-server too?08:41
TeslaTonyscarleo: I don't believe so. I've never run into a situation, though, where the computer forces me to reboot before I can do anything08:41
angelete2maybe will be better, i didn't notice this channel, sorry08:41
ActionParsnipscarleo: if you don't reboot it doesn't affect the OS, you just have a kernel update which needs one to load the new stuff, that'ss all. The OS can happily run fiorever more without you rebooting08:42
ActionParsnipangelete2: no need to apologise ;)08:42
scarleoTeslaTony: No oc it doesn't force me, it's not windoze we're talking abt, but it would still be sweet if it could tell me that it needs to reboot to complete the update before I actually do the update08:42
eypalhello, is here anybody from Canonical Ltd?08:44
scarleoActionParsnip: Yeah, I can still see a point in being told before committing the update that it will require a reboot to complete08:44
luca_action partnership, yes, i have done the sudo chmod 777 file.dwg and tryed the sudo chmod 644 file.dwg too08:44
Guest35270i test everything in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades08:45
Guest35270and no new release found each time08:45
Guest35270wtf ?08:45
mix228911i don't know how to install "Kazam" software ,i've tryed to search it under software center & under termenal08:45
Free-manmornin08:46
mix228911morning08:46
mix228911sudo apt-get install kazam not work for me08:46
Guest35270anyone have a idea ?08:48
Free-manwho has a distro non-specific prob08:48
Free-mannon-distro specific08:48
Guest35270i put the sources.list with  old-releases  sources08:48
Guest35270but same08:49
Guest35270no new release proposed08:49
jrib!enter | Guest3527008:49
ubottuGuest35270: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!08:49
jribGuest35270: what release are you currently on?08:49
Guest35270i'm currently in 9.1008:49
jribGuest35270: what did you put in your sources.list?08:49
Free-manGuest35270 IOW, write english sentences :)08:49
m1ndsurferWhat repository do I have to add so I can install Apache Ant 2.2 from Synaptic in Ubuntu 10.4? (it's hard to google for...)08:49
Guest35270sorry for my poor englis08:50
TeslaTonymix228911, try http://whyareyoureadingthisurl.wordpress.com/2010/09/05/kazam-0-1-released/ and follow the instructions08:50
Free-manGuest35270 use punctuation :)08:50
Guest35270root@ltsp_a31:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list08:50
Guest35270## EOL upgrade sources.list08:50
Guest35270# Required08:50
Guest35270deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic main restricted universe multiverse08:50
Guest35270deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic-updates main restricted universe multiverse08:50
FloodBot1Guest35270: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:50
Guest35270deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic-security main restricted universe multiverse08:50
Free-man[,.?;:]08:50
jribGuest35270: close update-manager, run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ».  What happens?08:50
Free-manwell, that's redundant08:50
Guest35270http://pastebin.com/mCWduUND08:51
jribGuest35270: now run « gksu update-manager »08:52
Guest35270"Your system is up-to-date"08:53
jribGuest35270: there is no button near the top offering a distribution upgrade?08:53
eypalAnyone from Canonical Ltd?  I have a kind of business related thing on my mind but have troubles in getting contact..08:54
MonkeyDustanyone has a solution for the kworker bug? http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-717919%5D-re-acpi-kworker-high-interrupts-134097/08:54
Free-mannot i08:54
Free-maneypal ^08:54
rwweypal: http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/contact08:55
eypalrww, thank you for that. unfortunately I have tried those ways but months has passed and no replies.. :(08:56
Free-maneypal why not phone them?08:56
Guest35270no button.08:57
jribGuest35270: pastebin /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades08:58
Guest35270http://pastebin.com/K2R0rGqf08:58
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mix228911TeslaTony: Kazam not showing at Software Center08:59
jribGuest35270: why root prompt?08:59
mix228911what to do?08:59
ljsoftneti just installed crossover games, how do i run it?08:59
mix228911TeslaTony09:00
Guest35270because i have a ssh connection in root (more easy to pastebin). theOther screen is a vnc connection to server09:00
arun__what is the difference between linux and ubuntu09:00
ActionParsniparun__: linux is only the kernel. Ubuntu is a distribution with Linux at its core09:00
jribGuest35270: ok, you're running update-manager as user though?  What's in ~/.update-manager-core/meta-release?09:00
Free-manarun__ linux is the kernel; Ubuntu (any distro name) is the "model"; like car-maker, year-model09:01
ActionParsnipljsoftnet: open your windows binaries with the crossover app. You should check the compatibility pages to see what wil run with crossover09:01
Guest35270http://pastebin.com/47HJTWHe09:01
TeslaTonymix228911, you might need to tell the software center to update. Open up terminal and type in "sudo apt-get update"09:01
Guest35270ok it's work09:02
Guest35270 !09:02
jribGuest35270: ok09:02
Guest35270metarelease update !09:02
mix228911what is PPA?09:03
rww!ppa09:03
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa09:03
arun__wonder what is the equivalent of exe in windows in ubuntu09:04
jribarun__: a file marked executable09:04
ActionParsniparun__: the exe files are executable binariers, there are plenty in /usr/bin09:05
mix228911what "Just add our daily builds PPA:" means?09:05
ActionParsnipmix228911: daily build of what?09:05
TeslaTonymix228911, Ah. Try copying "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:and471/kazam-daily-builds && sudo apt-get update" to your command line09:05
jribmix228911: it means a project provides a ppa as described by ubottu above and are suggesting you add it to your sources.list09:05
mix228911TeslaTony: thanks alot09:06
mix228911jrib:  ok09:07
mix228911thanks09:07
TeslaTonymix228911, hope it worked09:07
ActionParsniparun__: the commands like apt-get are executable binaries09:08
mix228911TeslaTony: it's not09:08
connexHi, how can i disable printer dialog and print silently?09:09
TeslaTonymix228911: What happened when you ran the command?09:09
mix228911O:-) i'm rest in pice09:09
MonkeyDustanyone has a solution for the kworker bug? http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-717919%5D-re-acpi-kworker-high-interrupts-134097/09:09
arun__what is cygwin?09:10
mix228911Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/universe Translation-en09:10
mix228911Fetched 11.3 kB in 2s (4,027 B/s)09:10
mix228911Reading package lists... Done09:10
TeslaTonymix228911: Looks like it worked, then. Now punch in "sudo apt-get install kazam"09:10
mix228911oh yea09:11
mix228911TeslaTony09:11
mix228911tanks alot09:11
mix228911i'll save the log' and learn it09:11
mix228911cool, it's working09:13
mix228911:)09:13
mix228911now, i'll drink my black coffee09:13
mix228911i need a cig' too09:14
TeslaTonymix228911, Ahhhh. Nothing like mixing stimulants after fiddling with the command line. Anyways, the basic parts of those commands will be very handy for you when adding software, and worth knowing09:15
smokkyhow to change regulatory domain on Ubuntu 11.04 ?09:16
ismail_karnhello!09:17
ismail_karnI need a portable Wine and any new version of Chromium Browser. Where can i find them?09:18
grychromium is in the software center and updates for it are in the update manager, ismail_karn09:19
gryportable Wine.. don't think there is a thing like that09:19
ActionParsnipismail_karn: there is the daily chromium ppa build if you like?09:19
ismail_karngry: i know. thank you. but i need portable. (also wine is on software center)09:19
ismail_karnActionParsnip: no thank you. i need any (10+ version) portable.09:20
gryismail_karn, try to ask #winehq about that ?09:20
ismail_karngry: oh yes. i will.09:20
Ibisismail_karn: Do you really need to run windows on linux without using virtualbox? (Hey, if your computer fast, and you have at least 1.5GB of ram, VB is better).09:20
gryismail_karn, if you want chromium which is not in the ppa .. you'd have to talk to #chromium channels family or sompile it on your own, I'm afraid09:21
grys/s/c/09:21
ActionParsnipismail_karn: not sure about portable, you can sync your bookmarks and junk to the web so that you can use them in other chromiums09:21
ActionParsnipismail_karn: could http://portableapps.com/node/15677 use that, its the windows version but may run09:22
ismail_karnIbis: yes i realy need. :(09:22
ismail_karngry: thank you. i ill ask it on chromium channel. thank you!09:23
ismail_karn ActionParsnip: this link which you gave me is windows version which you told me. How can i run it on Windows? I men i need wine. I will never do this :) Chromium with Wine on Ubuntu ? :)09:25
smokkyhow to change regulatory domain on Ubuntu 11.04 ?09:25
ivonnehola09:25
|ntegra|what's a regulatory demain?09:25
smokky|ntegra|:  is a rule to allow a wifi channels , for example the default regulatory domain US doesn't support channel 13 , but i need that09:27
|ntegra|oh ok09:27
smokkyi want to use an regulatory domain from a country from europe , so i don't know what to do09:28
ChrisPerkinsanyone know how to get the pretty colors in my terminal back? :-(09:28
gnaddelHi folks, whats the easiest way to move my existing htpc-ubuntu onto a larger hdd?09:28
ActionParsnipChrisPerkins: run:  source ~/.bashrc09:29
ActionParsnipgnaddel: rsync or dd or partimage09:29
ivonnetengo un problema con pendrive usb09:29
gryismail_karn, you're very welcome; good luck09:29
ChrisPerkinsActionParsnip: Thanks! will that be a permanent change?09:30
gnaddelActionParsnip: Are you familiar with clonezilla? Seems to offer on the fly partition resizing.09:30
MonkeyDustanyone has a solution for the kworker bug? http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-717919%5D-re-acpi-kworker-high-interrupts-134097/09:30
__MAXHi, can i convert my ubuntu virtual machine to physical operating system09:31
ActionParsnipChrisPerkins: try a new terminal window, if not I can give a file to make it work09:31
|ntegra|smokky: this guys explaining it pretty well http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132428809:31
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ActionParsnipgnaddel: never used it09:31
AlecTaylorhi09:31
AlecTaylorGuess what? - We might be able to install Linux! - My advert: "Linux is much faster, has better security, and scales much better than Windows OSs. Not to mention it have many more features and supporting much more software. Maintenace is also much easier, and upgrading/installing new software never requires a restart."09:31
smokky|ntegra|: but i dont have internet to install IW09:32
ChrisPerkins ivonne: Que es la problema con pendrive usb? Que quire acumplir?09:32
ActionParsnipAlecTaylor: then get it installed09:32
gry__MAX, http://infoqueue.wordpress.com/2009/01/04/wubi-installation-to-regular-installation/09:32
ivonneel pendrive esta dañado y no lo reconoce con lsusb09:32
LjL!es | ivonne09:33
ubottuivonne: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.09:33
|ntegra|then try typing #iw [tab] and see if iw is already installed?09:33
LasersAlecTaylor: You only need to restart when you're installing/upgrading a new kernel. :)09:33
gry__MAX, err, or not09:33
AlecTaylorActionParsnip: Hopefully it worked!09:33
ChrisPerkinsActionParsnip: No that works great thanks.09:33
ActionParsnipChrisPerkins: good enough for me :)09:33
__MAXgry : !09:33
smokky|ntegra|:  no itisn't installed but is there any way to install from usb , to download from Windows xp ,and then copying there09:34
ivonnehe entrado en ubuntu-es pero no contesta nadie y me urge09:34
|ntegra|yes, go to packages.ubuntu.com and grab it09:34
__MAXgry: i don't  have wubi on my phsical os  , i am using vmware workstation  so i need to convert my vmware os to physical os09:35
smokkyand then how to install09:35
llutz__MAX: start your vm, mount an empty partition, rsync your vm to it, reconfigure fstab/grub09:36
|ntegra|#dpkg -i iw.deb09:37
ChrisPerkinsivonne:  Los dados sobre Pendrive pueden estar borrados?09:37
smokkywhere to put that file , in which folder ? desktop or ...09:37
ivonneme lo reconoce en el kernel con dmesg | tail09:37
sp4zhi, where are the restricted drives kept in 11.04?09:37
|ntegra|have you got two computers there? or windows "connected"?09:38
sp4zdrivers*09:38
llutz!es | ivonne09:38
gry__MAX, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1519354 seems to be related09:38
ubottuivonne: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.09:38
|ntegra|>> anywhere09:38
ivonneInitializing USB Mass Storage driver...09:38
ivonne[  223.694386] scsi2 : usb-storage 1-3:1.009:38
ivonne[  223.694561] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage09:38
ivonne[  223.694566] USB Mass Storage support registered.09:38
ivonne[  224.734072] scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access     TDKMedia Trans-It Drive   PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS09:38
FloodBot1ivonne: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:38
ivonne[  224.735140] sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 009:38
__MAXllutz, u don't know any app to do it09:38
|ntegra|>> home I guess09:38
smokkyok i'm going to try09:38
llutz__MAX: nope09:38
ivonnesi09:38
__MAX:)09:38
ivonneperdon09:38
abhijithi09:39
|ntegra|hi09:39
abhijiti am getting this error E: The package nokuntusp needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report. and synpatic is closing. this is due to nokuntu package. please help.09:39
__MAXgry : ;)09:39
abhijithow to remove that error and nokuntu? i need to install another software09:39
|ntegra|yes that's great09:40
ActionParsnipabhijit: try: http://pastebin.com/d95UWgeb09:40
|ntegra|wow that's a good ol' clean up09:41
ActionParsnipboom09:42
abhijitActionParsnip: :-o ok. let me try. but it wont break down any kernel thingy or dpkg thingy right?09:42
ActionParsnipabhijit: its just gets the packages straightened out, helps things a fair bit09:42
abhijitok09:42
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abhijitActionParsnip: i copy pasted all those command in one .sh file and then run it with sudo but nothing happends. terminsal sits there09:45
ActionParsnipabhijit: works here (the file extension is meaningless in linux ;))09:47
abhijitok09:47
ActionParsnipabhijit: did you put:  #!/bin/bash   as the top line?09:47
ActionParsnipabhijit: and mark it as executable?09:48
abhijitnope. but it worked not. it told me to close synaptic.09:48
abhijityes its executable09:48
ActionParsnipabhijit: yes you can only have oneapp accessing the packages at one time09:48
abhijit*it worked now*09:48
ActionParsnipabhijit: magic :)09:48
abhijit:-)09:48
ActionParsnipabhijit: the script assumes the packages are free09:49
iophkI've changed mail addresses and think that the old address is still registered  in Brainstorm.  How can I reset the password for my Brainstorm account and get a new mail address at the same time?09:49
rabbi1ikonia: okies09:50
abhijitActionParsnip: script worked. with errors. it cant access cd rom or can not fetch packages.gz from ubuntu site09:50
ActionParsnipabhijit: remove the CD as a software source in software centre09:50
ActionParsnipabhijit: if you pastebin the text, we can advise09:51
rabbi1ikonia: yeah, got the cd, inserted but nothing's happening, saying 2.168704] Kernal panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block ( 8,1)09:51
abhijitActionParsnip: i now removed cd and trying again wait09:51
abhijitActionParsnip: these are the errors http://pastebin.com/aXWRN5NP09:53
DaghdhaHi, is there any way to see the history of updates i installe din ubutu using update manager? I think something was installed about a week ago that occassionally breaks my network09:53
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ActionParsnipabhijit: just remove the CD as a source in software centre, you can also comment out the lines relating to the CD in /etc/apt/sources.list09:54
gryDaghdha, yes, the history section choice at the left09:54
ActionParsnipDaghdha: read /var/log/dpkg.log09:54
gryDaghdha, it's in the software center for new installations.. or what ActionParsnip said09:54
* Daghdha rubs eyes09:55
Daghdhagry I dont' see the section you refer to09:55
Daghdhai'm on 10.x not 11.x09:56
snapehello09:56
sgo11hi, this drives me crazy. my gvim has some problems. how to describe that.. very hard. the words typed in do not affect properly in the window? for example, if you type 'hello' very fast, it will only show 'h llo'. to solve it, simply click the window border, the UI gets refreshed and the word shows correctly. how to fix this annoyed problem? I don't have this problem two weeks ago. currently, latest ubuntu 11.04 natty. thanks.09:56
mix228911hello, i can't find "steam" program, i've sudo apt-get install steam -allready09:56
abhijitActionParsnip: my bad i just removed cd physically but ddnot removed from software sources. now i removed it from software sources too. this time script worked with this error E: The package nokuntusp needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.09:56
gryDaghdha, http://i.imgur.com/98nGW.png .. what ActionParsnip said may be more complete, though, what I said may be too simple for your case09:56
mix228911where is it09:56
mix228911?09:56
ActionParsnip!info nokuntusp09:57
ubottuPackage nokuntusp does not exist in natty09:57
abhijitActionParsnip: i took it from sourceforge09:57
Daghdhapff.. all my xterms are grey again :/09:57
ActionParsnipgry: I see, I dont use software centre much these days09:57
ActionParsnipabhijit: then grab the file and reinstall it09:57
Daghdhaoh i see gry, i was in the update manager09:58
Daghdhathanks09:58
abhijitActionParsnip: that is the package i want to remove. it causes all this mess!!!09:58
mix228911i've kill moskito09:58
ActionParsnipabhijit: then use software centre to remove it09:59
snapei'm using ubuntu 10.04 LTS with gnome 2.30.209:59
snapeout of the blue after i login everything is extremely slow and the theme isn't loading. i can't interact with any application and cannot logout.09:59
snapeit's only with my user. with another user it works fine.09:59
snapeit seems it has something to do with metacity. i don't have any clue where to begin and what to search for.09:59
snapePlease help me! I would really appreciate it!09:59
FloodBot1snape: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:59
snapei'm using ubuntu 10.04 LTS with gnome 2.30.2.out of the blue after i login everything is extremely slow and the theme isn't loading. i can't interact with any application and cannot logout.it's only with my user. with another user it works fine.it seems it has something to do with metacity. i don't have any clue where to begin and what to search for.Please help me! I would really appreciate it!10:00
abhijitActionParsnip: nothing happen when clicking on remove button in software center10:00
Daghdhaalso, i had this once before, from out of the blue all terminal windows have gone grey. They still have the windo borders but instead of black background with text on it it is all one big grey area. Anything known?10:00
ActionParsnipsnape: why repaste exactly the same text twice?10:00
mix228911 i can't find "steam" program, i've sudo apt-get install steam -allready10:00
ActionParsnipabhijit: use apt-get to remove it, what is output?10:01
ActionParsnipmix228911: steam isn't in the repos10:01
snapesorry i thought it hasn't been sent because i used enter as punctuation10:01
mix228911in what?10:01
abhijitActionParsnip: E: The package nokuntusp needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.10:01
ikoniarabbi1: so the CD won't boot at all either10:01
MonkeyDustsnape: it think it's this: esfossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-717919%5D-re-acpi-kworker-high-interrupts-134097/10:01
ActionParsnipabhijit: then you can redownload the deb, put it in then take it out, or you can mess with the status file / postinst postrm files10:02
rabbi1ikonia: yeah, its a laptop, my cd drive is also dead10:02
ActionParsnip!repos | mix22891110:02
ubottumix228911: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories10:02
blinkizHello. Am using ubuntu 11.04. The Network icon is missing from the unity panel. Network is also not working. Please advice10:02
ActionParsnipblinkiz: run:  nm-applet10:02
snape@monkeydust link is not working10:03
ikoniarabbi1: so look in the bios, is the disk still visible10:03
paimy acer aspire one 522 netbook's speakers are on while headphone is plugged in, any solutions, guys?10:03
DaghdhaCan anyone tell me a command that will open something on the desktop? I want to type in one of my grey terminals and see if it still runs stuff, or that they are just all totally phrozen10:03
rabbi1ikonia: nop, it's not recognising the CDD in the bios only10:04
jribDaghdha: gedit10:04
* Daghdha sighs "Thank you, i am an idiot"10:04
ikoniarabbi1: hardware issues then, time to raise an RMA10:04
ActionParsnippai: add: options snd-hda-intel model=asus position_fix=1 enable_msi=1    in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf    and reboot to test10:04
DaghdhaOk, they not taking input.10:04
SetiAmonHello10:04
ffk27hi10:04
blinkizActionParsnip, nm-applet do not exist in ubuntu 11.0410:05
SetiAmonSo is there a way to get sound to work perfectly on my system,X-FI sound card10:05
paithanx ActionParsnip, i'll get a try10:05
mix228911how do i install "file.msi"  please?10:05
ActionParsnipblinkiz: it does, its what gives the icon in the systray10:05
blinkizhmm10:05
SetiAmonI imagine since old jaunty,with old beta drivers worked flawlessly then there must be a way to get sound to work on up to date ubuntu10:05
ActionParsnipmix228911: open it with wine10:05
Daghdhagnome terminal is getting 100% cpu10:05
ffk27or find a alternative10:05
mix228911i can't open it10:05
Daghdhanearly10:05
ffk27apt-get install wine10:05
mix228911ActionParsnip: i can't10:05
ActionParsnipmix228911: mark it as executable and open with wine10:06
mix228911ActionParsnip:  i can't download anymore ,somting stuck10:06
ActionParsnipmix228911: then sort your packages then install the file (assuming it is compatible with wine)10:06
blinkizActionParsnip, are you sure that network-manager-gnome should be installed in ubuntu 11.04? It has not changed with this unity interface? It can be (but I do not think so) that I have uninstall it by mistake10:06
DaghdhaIf i kill gnome-terminal will it kill all BASH processes too?10:06
abhijitActionParsnip: i downloaded new copy of package but same error. it is unable to install.10:07
blinkizActionParsnip, on your own computer, do nm-applet exist as a command to run?10:07
mix228911ActionParsnip: file not found i think, i can't D/L anymore files10:07
ActionParsnipblinkiz: yes10:07
mix228911ActionParsnip:  i've change Download Folder ethier10:07
ActionParsnip!nm-applet10:07
ActionParsnipgah10:07
blinkizActionParsnip, ok10:07
mix228911ActionParsnip:  it's not work10:08
blinkizActionParsnip, I found the error. I installed "arping" that removed network-manager-gnome. Thanks for the help ActionParsnip10:08
ActionParsnipmix228911: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=nm-applet   see for yourself10:09
abhijitActionParsnip: wht can be done?10:09
ActionParsnipabhijit: you may need to force install the package10:09
abhijithow?10:09
ActionParsnipmix228911: try running it from terminal instead10:09
abhijitcan we force remove the package?10:09
ActionParsnipabhijit: sudo dpkg --force-all -i filename.deb10:09
abhijitok10:10
mix228911what is this?10:10
mix228911ActionParsnip:10:10
ActionParsnipabhijit: you can then pull it out and it will remove itself properly10:10
ActionParsnipmix228911: showing you that the command exists in ubuntu10:10
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JeZ-I-Leewas beta 2 released yet?10:10
Daghdhagome-terminal is eating nearly all my CPU. Is that normal? Should i kill it? (It is the process that hosts all my Bashes right?)10:11
JeZ-I-Leetrying to find it10:11
ffk27kill it10:11
IcantGetNoSleepActionParsnip: what command?10:11
abhijitActionParsnip: i force install it now how to remove it10:11
abhijitit installed with same error10:11
ActionParsnipIcantGetNoSleep: for what?10:11
ActionParsnipDaghdha: is it doing something right now?10:11
IcantGetNoSleepit's me mix2289110:12
ActionParsnipIcantGetNoSleep: nm-applet    like I said earlier...10:12
abhijitActionParsnip: nvm. thanks for the help so far. i will try for forum. :-)10:12
ffk27 10:12
ActionParsnipabhijit: you may need to mess with the status file then, this sort of thing is one of the massive weaknesses in package based distros10:13
abhijitokies.10:13
abhijitwill do it later. bye for now ActionParsnip10:13
DaghdhaActionParsnip: I don't know what you mean. It has 4 bashes ran, wich have launched processes that run under python or mono.10:13
DaghdhaSo i would expect it to be doing nothing10:13
IcantGetNoSleep12310:14
ActionParsnipDaghdha: if you close the terminal, the child processes will die10:15
sniperjo_anyone running ubuntu on an ARM ?10:15
grysniperjo_, some of us are. what's up?10:15
DaghdhaActionParsnip: This is bad because all opened terminals will die10:16
Daghdhaand their childprocesses, wich are using a DB.. wich i rather shut down gracefully10:16
sniperjo_gry: i have a prebuilt version of angstrom on an arm that is working, but id love to get ubuntu up and running on it, I've tried some of the prebuilt images and got nowhere with them10:16
DaghdhaActionParsnip: If i do a shutdown, will it do it gracefully you think?10:16
grydidn't say I'm one of those people, but good, you asked the full question. :-)10:17
sniperjo_gry:  you had my hopes up !10:17
* gry hopes10:17
ActionParsnipDaghdha: should do, yes10:19
Daghdha2nd tiem i had this, must be some gnome-terminal bug10:19
ActionParsnipDaghdha: I'd do it manually, just to be sure10:19
Daghdhamanually do what? Shut down?10:19
ActionParsnipDaghdha: could try it from xterm, see if it is a bug10:19
ActionParsnipDaghdha: close down the apps etc10:20
Daghdhait happened twice in the last year10:20
DaghdhaHow can i manually close down an app if i can't get to it's prompt?10:20
IcantGetNoSleep.10:21
DaghdhaActionParsnip i see 'end process' in the system monitor, is that what you mean?10:21
snapei'm using ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Out of the blue, when i login all windows are grey not responding at all and the theme isn't loading. It's only with my main user. Other users work fine. I can't start programs and cannot logout. I have no clue what i should search for. I would really appreciate your help10:22
ffk27snape: you touched compiz?10:23
snapenope10:23
ActionParsnipgrey windows are compiz's way of telling you an app is hanging10:23
ffk27well i guess rm ~ .gnome* will fix it10:23
snapei will try10:24
ffk27no wait10:24
gryback up first10:24
ffk27i'm not an expert10:24
ActionParsnipsnape: try: gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz; compiz --replace10:24
ActionParsnipsnape: will set compiz to defaults and may help10:24
snapethx i will try that10:24
Daghdhaand that app can be gnome-terminal, in my case.10:27
DaghdhaOH10:29
Daghdhaproblem 'solved'10:29
Daghdhaapparently when you click 'close' on 1 terminal and it says 'not responding force quit?' and you say yes it closes ALL terminals.10:30
DaghdhaIs there a setting that makes every terminal run in it's own process?10:31
DeathWolfhi all10:32
ffk27hello10:32
DeathWolfIs there any proper way of using say a natty repo in lucid but with a "lower" priority10:32
jribDeathWolf: no10:32
geirhaDaghdha: You could use uxterm or urxvt instead of gnome-terminal10:33
DeathWolfie, I just want one package that's not backported(xserver-xorg 1.10), and try for the best(I don't mind if it breaks everything, I'm doing testing)10:33
jrib!pinning | DeathWolf10:33
ubottuDeathWolf: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto10:33
ffk27daghdha: use screen10:33
jribDeathWolf: things will break10:33
ActionParsnipsnape: any better?10:33
jribDeathWolf: (likely)10:33
DeathWolfyeah I know10:34
Daghdhaffk27: wills creen prevent my terminals from locking up or running under the same process?10:34
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DeathWolfthe thing is 1.7.5 is ancient, and only 1.10 has newer features like xcomposite with xinerama10:34
ffk27yes i think so10:34
jribDeathWolf: so why don't you upgrade your ubuntu?10:34
DeathWolfI don't mind trying that too, but do-release-upgrade complains of some stuff10:34
robs_hello i have problem with my bulit in dvb-t tuner, can somebody help me? :)10:35
jribDeathWolf: what stuff?10:35
ffk27screen -dMS <sessioname> <command>10:35
DeathWolfit doesn't find a mirror entry for the upgrade10:35
jribDeathWolf: pastebin please10:35
DeathWolfhttp://pastebin.com/H3ehmMvq jrib10:36
ffk27DeathWolf: please cat /etc/apt/sources.list10:36
SetiAmonSo since x-fi is all cracky and such i decided to enable onboard sound.intel HDA.So how do i make it so ubuntu uses that instead of X-Fi?10:36
ActionParsnipSetiAmon: set it as the default sound device in sound options10:37
IbisAnyone in here by any chance using Konversation Chat clinet?10:37
DeathWolfmmm most of these are corporate confidential though ...(it's internal repositories)10:37
IbisClient*10:37
Daghdhageirha: Okay i added the uxterm to the menu. I will start usingthat instead i guess10:37
geirhaDaghdha: I use gnome-terminal though and I can't remember ever seeing such a message when closing a gnome-terminal window10:38
DeathWolfsigh, why didn't anyoen backport xorg 1.10 to lucid:(10:39
geirhaDaghdha: I never use the X-button to close it though, I always exit the shell it is running instead, typically by hitting Ctrl+D at the bash prompt.10:39
DeathWolfI wonder how much work it'd be to get it backported10:39
Daghdhageirha: all my terms where grey. gnome-terminal process was taking 100% cpu10:39
geirhaDaghdha: Yeah, I've gotten that with other applications, just never gnome-terminal. Not that I can remember anyway.10:40
Daghdhawell as you can imagine that's pretty bad one to have it with.10:40
ActionParsnipSetiAmon: or easier, remove the card altogether10:40
Daghdhai think it should have a moe where you can have each term have it's own process10:41
ActionParsnipDeathWolf: there is the xorg edgers PPA, its very experimental so may cause issues10:41
DeathWolfVersion: 1:7.5+6ubuntu1~xorgedgers3~lucid10:41
DeathWolf^ ActionParsnip10:41
SetiAmonactionparsnip:sound control won't load up now10:42
SetiAmonhmm10:42
DeathWolfseems like their lucid is still only 1.7.5 too10:42
SetiAmonwhats the name of the thing i need to reinstall.pavucontrol?10:42
DeathWolfwhich is more ancient than the pyramids10:42
SetiAmonwhats the volume controller10:42
ActionParsnipDeathWolf: yes but its stable10:42
geirhaDaghdha: When you hit the X-button, it goes on a killing spree, trying to kill all child processes, whether they be backgrounded or not. It was probably waiting for one of them to die when it was hanging. By exiting the shell instead, that won't happen.10:42
ActionParsnipDeathWolf: use at your own risk: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates?field.series_filter=lucid10:43
DaghdhaNo geirha10:43
IbisAbout Kernels, Linux3.0 is compatible with Ubuntu 11.04, right10:43
DaghdhaAll my child processes (Wich i can access trough HTTP) were running fine.10:43
DeathWolfActionParsnip: that's still only 1.7.6...10:44
rabbi1ikonia: got the starter in usb10:44
ffk27when does 11.04 gets a 3.0 update?10:44
geirhaDaghdha: The child processes of the shell of the terminal window you were closing10:44
seb0hi all, are there any known problems with oineiric updated within the last 24 hours?10:44
Daghdhagnome-terminal was hanging with 100% cpu and not responding.10:45
DeathWolfif only xinerama X without compositing wasn't so slow:(10:45
ActionParsnipIbis: there is a 3rd party kernel 3.0 for natty, we cannot support it here in any way10:46
ikoniarabbi1: seems pointless if your machine has a hardware error10:46
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ActionParsnipseb0: ask in #ubuntu+1 for oneiric questions please10:46
DeathWolfI can't believe it took until xorg 1.10 before they had compositing not conflicting with xinerama10:46
DeathWolfit's beyond facepalm10:46
ActionParsnipDaghdha: kill the process is all I can suggest10:46
pamwe_chetewhat's the smallest program that can resize photos and convert formats (jpg to png)?10:47
m6locksany ideas which modules to add if i10:47
ActionParsnipDeathWolf: is it ok in kde, kwin can do compositing...10:47
m6locksi'm gonna compile kernel 3.0?10:47
m6lockssystem is eee pc 70110:47
unkhey can anyone one tell me how should i change the network manager setting it is saying that "device is not managed"10:47
ActionParsnip!kernel | m6locks10:47
ubottum6locks: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)10:47
pamwe_chetei don't want to download gimp just to resize and convert photos, is there a command line application for that?10:47
DaghdhaActionParsnip: It already all died when the term i closed brought up a kill dialog that was for the gnome-terminal and not for itself. And presto.. all terminals gone in one foul swoop. All processes dead. Problem solved, patient dead.10:48
ActionParsnipunk: did you define it in /etc/network/interfaces ?10:48
ActionParsnipDaghdha: as good as can be expected10:48
ActionParsnippamwe_chete: use imagemagick10:48
AlecTaylorWOOT - Finally have an Ubuntu Server to work with, Goodbye Windows Server 2003!10:48
grywoot10:48
DaghdhaActionParsnip: True. Doesn't mean i'm happy about it though :)10:49
ChipzzzHi guys... I need a libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.21.6) for lucid and can't find it in any repo. Can anybody help?10:49
unkActionParsnip: it is saying "device not managed" for both wired and wireless10:49
unkActionParsnip: then who is managing them??10:50
IbisAbout a software named   metacity   in Ubuntu 11.04,       why does it seem to not handle memory so well.   It bloated well over 400MB in memory usage. I decided to just kill the program and start metacity again via terminal ( metacity ).10:50
pamwe_cheteActionParsnip that's what i was looking for, thanks10:51
IbisNow it uses as little as 2MB of memory.10:51
unkIbis: hey Ibis10:51
IbisAloha Unk!10:51
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unkIbis: i m facing a new problem in ubuntu10:52
ThisIsMyNickhello10:53
unkIbis:  its network manager it is saying that the devices are not managed by it. then how should i check that who is managing my networking devices??10:53
jribDeathWolf: so why not hit 'y' or use official repositories for the upgrade?10:53
DaghdhaActionParsnip: One final question. If i had been running all processes under screen, would after this kill the screen and processes udner screen survived or would they too have been taken down by killing of Gnome-terminal?10:53
Chipzzzunk: whenever i start firefox, my network manager says it found an unmanaged device... but then it manages it for me :)10:54
geirhaDaghdha: your screen(s) would've survived10:54
unkChipzzz: In my case it's not managing. i m using GNOME by the way10:54
DaghdhaOkay, maybe start using those. Thank geirha and ActionParsnip.10:54
ActionParsnipunk: Daghdha not sure, I don't use screen10:55
Chipzzzunk: i have a gnome desktop too... does it not connect at all?10:55
ffk27screen will survive10:55
unkChipzzz: NO10:56
Chipzzzunk: wireless or wired?10:57
unkActionParsnip: tell me then in terminal way10:57
unkChipzzz: both of them10:57
ActionParsnipunk: did you edit /etc/network/interfaces ?10:57
Chipzzzunk: do the devices show up in lspci?10:57
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unkChipzzz: i have also check the services but cannot figure out10:57
unkChipzzz: yes10:58
unkActionParsnip: no10:58
ActionParsnipunk: if you open the file, does it only have lo0   defined?10:58
unkActionParsnip:NO eth0 ,wlan0 are defined.10:59
unkActionParsnip:there is an applet of network manager at the top right side.10:59
unkActionParsnip:when i right click on it . It shows the devices are not managed by it10:59
lolcatHello11:00
lolcatApache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.4-2ubuntu5.10 with Suhosin-Patch mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8g Server at wiki Port 80 <- Does that mean they are running Ubuntu 5.10?11:00
unklolcat: it means PHP 5.2.4 not ubuntu11:00
lolcatunk: 'ubuntu5.10'11:01
unkActionParsnip: any solution of it11:01
lolcatwhat is 5.10?11:01
ActionParsnipunk: then that's why. if you set the interfaces there then network manager cannot touch them11:01
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ActionParsnipunk: so when I asked "are they defined in /etc/network/interfaces" your answer should have been YES and we would be moving11:02
unkActionParsnip: i didnt edit any file then why it is happen??11:02
ActionParsnipunk: you must have, or whomever set it up has. The default file ONLY has lo0 defined11:02
unkActionParsnip: is there any other service which may be handling it?? if yes how could i find it?11:03
ActionParsnipunk: no, just that file11:04
unklolcat: if its 5.10 then  it must be ubuntu 5.1011:04
ActionParsnip!5.1011:04
ubottuUbuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) was the third release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 13, 2007. See !eol and !upgrade for more details.11:04
unkActionParsnip: what should i do now ???11:04
xoveruk1hi11:04
lolcatActionParsnip: Does that string mean they are using Ubuntu 5.10?11:04
Picilolcat: it just means that the version of php on that server is 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.10. If I had to guess, it would be runnning a not-recently updated version of 8.04 (8.04 shipped with php5-5.2.4-2ubuntu5 and the latest in their repositories is 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.1711:04
ActionParsnipunk: comment out the lins in the file but leave the ones with lo on them, then reboot11:04
xoveruk1How can I check if syslogd is running for monitoring purposes?11:04
ActionParsnipxoveruk1: ps -ef | grep logd11:05
lolcat!8.0411:05
ubottuUbuntu 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron) was the eighth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended on May 12 2011, Server support continues until 2013. See !upgrade, !lts and !eol for more details.11:05
lolcatThat makes sence11:05
unkActionParsnip: ok11:05
xoveruk1i want to check that it actually works11:05
xoveruk1and then send that information back to the remote nagios system11:05
unkActionParsnip: Network manager does not edit that file by itself ????11:06
ActionParsnipunk: no, it doesn't touch it11:06
Todtest11:06
ActionParsnip!test | tod11:06
ubottutod: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use #test )11:06
unkActionParsnip: ok11:06
Tod#test11:06
unkActionParsnip: i have install virtualbox one of the interface is of it  should i delete that also???11:08
ActionParsnipunk: just comment them out, its less destructive11:08
Defusal_Hi everyone11:08
ActionParsniphi Defusal_11:08
Defusal_is it possible to install ubuntu server on a flash drive?11:08
unkActionParsnip: ok11:08
ActionParsnipDefusal_: sure11:09
Defusal_or do i need to download ubuntu desktop now instead?11:09
Defusal_ActionParsnip, how?11:09
bubblegumHello Guys. This may not relate to Linux (I'm not sure were to ask it) but is there some way to only specify what OIDs (Object Identifiers) you want when doing an SNMP walk? For example: I only want the OID for a temperature gauge on an SNMP enabled device. Does this make sense?11:09
Defusal_i used unetbootin and it says it cant install without a CD, and theres no option to boot, like ubuntu desktop has11:09
macer1Defusal_, run Ubuntu Server installator from CD or another USB, and install it to your flash drive. Then boot from it,customize it, add webserver or what do you want :)11:10
Defusal_macer1, so with other flash drive, it wont say it cant continue without a CD?11:11
macer1Defusal_, like this was in Debian 5 :D?11:11
Defusal_macer1, he ok, ill give it a go11:12
ActionParsnipDefusal_: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?11:12
Defusal_this installation is turing out to be one of the most painful experiences to date :/11:12
macer1Defusal_, good luck, I think Ubuntu Server should install to usb from another usb with no problem ;)11:12
Defusal_ActionParsnip, sure11:13
ActionParsnipDefusal_: I believe there is a boot option to make it not look for a CD, let me search11:14
bubblegumanyone know?11:14
ChipzzzDefusal_: have you thought about running it in a virtual machine with the image on the USB drive?11:15
cdaviscan notify-send cause a sound at the same time it displays the text?11:16
macer1ActionParsnip, I think ubuntu server is not checking for cd11:16
IbisO_o11:16
ActionParsnipDefusal_: could try the minimal ISO instead :)11:16
ActionParsnipmacer1: it can but there is a boot option to supress it etc11:17
eyadofhi i try to redirect my input using < but it don't work ? i write some thing like : ls < test.txt11:18
KNUBBIGeyadof: >11:18
pcnerdHi, is there a way to reenable login and password from the commend adduser?11:18
KNUBBIGeyadof: oh sorry misread11:18
ActionParsnipDefusal_:11:18
KNUBBIGeyadof: why would you input a file to ls?11:18
ActionParsnipDefusal_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=155031711:19
eyadof@knubbig it's an example11:19
eyadofit dosn't work complitly11:19
Defusal_Chipzzz: how exactly is that going to help me?11:20
Defusal_ActionParsnip: why should I need to do that manually? I don't even have the ISO on the flash drive, thats the whole reason I'm using unetbootin?11:21
rabbi1ikonia: some how i got it to load from usb....11:21
ActionParsnipDefusal_: when the usb starts to boot you sometimes need to mess around in another prompt is the installer starts asking about optical media11:21
Defusal_Unless you're saying unetbootin doesn't support ubuntu server11:22
ActionParsnipDefusal_: it does11:22
rabbi1ikonia: the problem now is my existing version on laptop is 9.10, now i got the 11.04... How can I update and still keep the data or how to get the grub ready ?11:22
Defusal_in which case i'll rather download desktop, and save some more wasted time11:22
ActionParsnipDefusal_: if you need a desktop OS, then install one :)11:22
Defusal_those instructions are for mounting an iso to install from, are they not?11:23
Defusal_that is not how unetbootin works11:23
ChipzzzDefusal_: Your problem appears to be that you can't boot the iso in order to install the system to the usb.  The virtual machine would boot from the iso and you could put the virtual machine on the USB drive.11:23
Defusal_i need an OS, thats about it11:23
Defusal_one that works11:23
Defusal_Chipzzz, no.11:24
ChipzzzDefusal_: Ah... sorry... i misunderstood the problem11:24
unknown_hunkActionParsnip: thnx it solve my problem11:24
ActionParsnipDefusal_: desktop is an easy ride. You can use Xubuntu or Lubuntu for a light desktop11:25
ActionParsnipunknown_hunk: np :)11:25
Defusal_ActionParsnip, yeah i think that may be simpler for using a flash drive, as it just works, and live boots11:25
unknown_hunkActionParsnip:  my usb 3g datacard is not detectable in the network manager ? ? what to do??11:26
paul_Sue your ISP, unknown_hunk.  :D11:27
robs_hello i have problem with my bulit in dvb-t tuner, can somebody help me? :)11:27
Defusal_ActionParsnip, now i just need to hope im installing from the right flash drive to the right one, since they are named exactly the same from the bioses perspective :|11:27
unknown_hunkActionParsnip: but when i use my mobile to connect it to internet . it get detected easly but not usb 3g data card11:27
rabbi1unknown_hunk: there are lot of post regarding your problem in ubuntu forum, have a look.11:27
LasersWhen you run "tasksel" -- There are a list. How can I find out what install what?11:27
Defusal_if i install it to the wrong, it'll be too small, and it will override the installation files, so ill have to start everything over11:27
unknown_hunkrabbi1: give me the link. i already search alot but didnot find any 100% solution for all data card's11:28
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unknown_hunkrabbi1: i have two 3g data card if one works then 2nd doesnt11:29
Defusal_ActionParsnip, and 10.10 is the most stable version?11:29
rabbi1unknown_hunk: which make?11:29
chiyaanhello11:29
unknown_hunkrabbi1: one is VODAFHONE     & another one is Micromax bsnl11:30
chiyaanhow to install in samba server11:30
robs_asus n61vg, cant make bulit in dvbt to work, no solution on forum, help!11:31
ActionParsnipDefusal_: 11.04 is also officially stable11:31
rabbi1unknown_hunk: check the post by username ajjublr. its for huawei, but works in most. i had made it work with huawei and vodafone11:31
ActionParsnipchiyaan: sudo apt-get install samba11:31
unknown_hunkrabbi1: where in ubuntu forum ??? can you give me the link?11:31
ActionParsniprobs_: run:  lsusb    you will see an 8 character hex ID you can use to find guides11:32
Defusal_ActionParsnip, i've had issues with 11.04 in the past so i will stay away from it, and the lastest 10.04's network config application (and who knows what else) is bugged11:32
rabbi1unknown_hunk: type ubuntu forum in google search field11:32
Defusal_So I was told yesterday 10.10 is a good choice11:32
unknown_hunkrabbi1:ok11:33
ChipzzzLasers: tasksel --list-tasks11:34
ActionParsnipDefusal_: then try wicd, or wifi-radar instead11:36
ActionParsnipDefusal_: there is more than network manager to manage network interfaces11:36
NOON,,11:36
NOON,11:36
robs_ActionParsnip: ive tryed that alredy11:36
KNUBBIGWhy does my irssi tell me I'm on Quakenet, wtf11:36
LasersChipzzz: Thank you. I didn't realize I can check --help/man with that package.11:37
NOON..11:37
ActionParsnipKNUBBIG: check your autoconnect/logins11:37
geirhaKNUBBIG: Maybe you're on both? Is this in the status window (window 1)? If so, Ctrl+X to cycle between the connected servers.11:37
KNUBBIGActionParsnip: geirha: thanks, but no it tells me this channel and me are actually on QuakeNet :> brb11:38
KNUBBIGmuch better.11:38
ChipzzzLasers: almost anything bash recognizes as a command has a --help option... man is not quite as widely available, though11:39
apandaahoi. does anyone know how to disable "autoplay" for removable media for pcmanfm?11:41
ChipzzzI need a libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.21.6) for lucid and can't find it in any of the repos. Can anybody suggest one (they seem to have deprecated it after Maveric so a backport repo would be the best bet)?11:43
rabbi1o gosh, my 11.04 is taking hell lot of time ..............................11:44
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ActionParsnip!find libgdk-pixbuf211:47
ubottuFound: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0, libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev, libgdk-pixbuf2.0-doc, libgdk-pixbuf2-ruby, libgdk-pixbuf2-ruby1.811:47
ActionParsnip!info libgdk-pixbuf2.0-011:47
ubottulibgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (source: gdk-pixbuf): GDK Pixbuf library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.23.3-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 172 kB, installed size 564 kB11:47
ActionParsnip!info libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 lucid11:48
ubottuPackage libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 does not exist in lucid11:48
Chipzzzouch11:48
ActionParsnipChipzzz: have you added a repo for a later release? or for Debian by any chance?11:48
Chipzzzno, i thought it imprudent... isn't it?11:49
ActionParsnipChipzzz: you should not mix repos from other releases, or ANY at al from Debian11:50
Chipzzzthat was my thought... i'm trying to install a deb and libgdk-pixbuf is a missing dependency11:50
TimothyAhow do I enable transfering files over SSH? my ISP seems to have disabled that on my VPS by default11:51
TimothyAand they don't want to tell me how to change it11:51
IbisTimothyA: It might be your router or a firewall.11:52
IbisUnblock port 22?11:52
TimothyAI can connect just fine to SSH11:52
TimothyAah finally got in11:52
Chipzzzthe deb is supposed to be for lucid but evidently there was some confusion among the developers ;)11:52
TimothyAapparently they blocked accounts11:52
Ibistyou might need to change a setting on your machine to enable ssh.11:52
rabbi1ikonia: you there?11:53
rabbi1ikonia: you there?11:53
paul_Is evince still the default pdf viewer in 11.10?11:54
ChipzzzActionParsnip: Thanks for the assistance but i think i'm going to write this project off as a bad idea ;)11:54
bazhangpaul_, #ubuntu+1 for 11.10 please11:54
paul_bazhang, sorry, I didn't know.11:55
rabbi1guys how can i recover my 9.10 from 11.04 livecd ?11:55
NOONlist11:56
unknown_hunkrabbi1: r u there??11:56
rabbi1unknown_hunk: yeah11:57
rabbi1http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182001711:57
unknown_hunkrabbi1: my prob is halfly solved11:57
chiyaanhow set in sudo password11:57
unknown_hunkrabbi1: let me explain11:57
rabbi1unknown_hunk: check the link above, you will know to solve it11:57
unknown_hunkrabbi1: now datacard is detected and i m also able to get my provider name with APN & connection is also available but when i click on it it doesnt get connected11:59
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unknown_hunkrabbi1: while the same datacard is perfectly working in windows11:59
chiyaanhow to set in sudo password11:59
jribchiyaan: be more specific11:59
unknown_hunkrabbi1:secondly when i used any mobile to connect it is easily connected11:59
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llutz_chiyaan: setting root password isn't supported here, use sudo as desired12:00
unknown_hunkrabbi1: i already follow that link12:00
unknown_hunkrabbi1: did you understand my problem?12:00
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unknown_hunkrabbi1: my datacard is working in window but in ubuntu it is detected all apn and setting are done correctly still i m unable to connect to the internet.12:02
unknown_hunkrabbi1: but when i use my mobile then network manager easily connects me to the internet12:02
unknown_hunkrabbi1: any solution???12:03
rabbi1unknown_hunk: first, can you let me know are you able to connect it from terminal ?12:04
ActionParsnipchiyaan: your sudo password is the same password you log in with12:04
fellipehi friends, where can I consult the packages status in the  dpkg -l <package>  output command?12:04
unknown_hunkrabbi1: not at all12:05
ActionParsnipfellipe: use:  apt-cache policy packagename12:05
fellipehi friends, where can I consult the packages status in the  dpkg -l <package>  output command? I mean, the legend "ii", "un" ...12:05
fellipehi, let me try..12:05
jribfellipe: why?12:05
ActionParsnipfellipe: do you mean, what do the letters mean?12:05
llutz_fellipe: its shown above, 1st 3 lines of dpkg-output12:05
chiyaanhow to check samba install12:06
ActionParsnipchiyaan: check in what way?12:06
jribchiyaan: check it for what?12:06
fellipewell, yeah, what the letters means!??12:06
llutz_how to ask smart questions? scnr12:06
rabbi1unknown_hunk: don't give any APN in Network Manager. just try with different numbers provided in the link. it'l work12:06
fellipeI saw the lines, but could not understand very well12:06
llutz_man dpkg12:07
jribfellipe: read PACKAGE STATES in « man dpkg »12:07
ActionParsnipfellipe: ii means it's installed. rc  means it has been installed, uninstalled but the config has not been removed12:07
unknown_hunkrabbi1: like USB0, USB1, USB2   right?12:07
llutz_oops wrong window, sry12:07
fellipe<ActionParsnip>: hum! and, what about "un" ?12:08
chiyaanhow to check in samba12:08
hypertyperI'm trying to get the latest version of xdotool but there are only downloads for the 64bit version on the homepage and I'm running 32bit. I can't find a tutorial for how to compile the tar.gz myself. Any suggestions? The version I can download via apt-get is old and not working for me. Thanks12:08
fellipeActionParsnip: and, what about "un" ? I have "ii" and "un" letters here12:08
ActionParsnipchiyaan: repeating the same question doesn't help anyone12:09
jribhypertyper: not working in what way?12:09
llutz_fellipe: man dpkg            read about "package states" and "package  selection states"12:09
unknown_hunkrabbit1: still not working ?12:09
fellipethanks...12:09
llutz_fellipe: the letters you see are the starting letters of listed state12:09
hypertyperjrib, I'm trying to use the brightness fake keys XF86MonBrightnessUp etc and they aren't working. They worked briefly but stopped.12:09
jrib!compile > hypertyper12:10
ubottuhypertyper, please see my private message12:10
hypertyperI've tried a lot of things and the new version is the one last thing I wanted to try12:10
ghostlyhello12:11
hypertyperI'll see what I can do, thanks12:11
chiyaan i m checking in all package .  what  command  ? help anyone12:12
jrib!in | chiyaan12:12
ubottuchiyaan: #ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India12:12
ogitux_chiyaan: sudo apt-get update12:12
ActionParsnipchiyaan: dpkg -l | grep samba12:12
Tracker2join # ubuntu-es12:12
unknown_hunkrabbi1: any suggestion now if you can give me ??12:13
haking9hi,I represent well known magazine for IT security professionals by IT security professionals. (there is almost 100 000 people from IT branch reading us every month)12:13
haking9At the moment we are looking for authors who could provide us with some interesting articles concerning Social Network Security and other subjects in this area of interest.12:13
haking9Best regards12:13
haking9piotr.klimaszewski@software.com.pl12:13
xanguahaking9: no spam please12:13
llutz_take your spam out here haking912:13
ogitux_haking9: please don't spam12:14
dhirencan somebody tell me how can I install ubuntu..I already have windows and I want ubuntu to be in D drive12:14
ActionParsniphaking9: #ubuntu+1 for that sort of thing please12:14
llutz_ActionParsnip: what? -offtopic   if12:14
ActionParsnipdhiren: create a CD or USB stick to install with. i suggest you either resize your partitions or delete a partition to make free space to install ubuntu to12:14
ogitux_dhiren: you can install ubuntu on drive d use wubi on cd ubuntu installer12:14
ActionParsnipllutz_: oops, brainspazz12:15
ActionParsniphaking9: #ubuntu-offtopic12:15
ActionParsnipllutz_: thanks for the spot12:15
prasenjeetpguys, yesterday i got an input that webmin is no go on ubuntu (and even otherwise). i guess the same applies for virtualmin12:15
dhirenActionParsnip: can I install ubuntu in only on deleted partition and have dual boot12:15
AmdpcHi...When I am on 1st workspace,I cannot go to 4th workspace directly using desktp wall.What to enable fot it ?12:15
llutz_dhiren: easier to use an own partition for installation and dual-boot. wubi shouldn't be used at all12:17
ActionParsnipdhiren: i would go that way. You can use wubi and install to your windows partition but it is a bit harder to fix if it goes belly up, it will also be directly affected by the fragmentation of NTFS12:17
dhirenllutz_: how to do that.. i have three partition..one windows one my backup and other I want to use for windows12:18
ActionParsnipdhiren: what version of windows is it?12:18
dhirenllutz_: sorry the other for ubuntu12:18
dhirenActionParsnip: Sp12:18
dhirenActionParsnip: xp12:18
ActionParsnipdhiren: if the other partition is disposable, delete it in Windows and then you can install Ubuntu to the free space12:19
chiyaanwhat are all the package in ubuntu 11.4 ?12:19
ActionParsnipchiyaan: how do you mean?12:19
dhirenActionParsnip: ok..thanks..but this will not format the other partition right12:19
ActionParsnipdhiren: yes it will destroy the data on the partition12:20
dhirenActionParsnip: thanks a lot12:20
ActionParsnipdhiren: the livecd can resize the NTFS and make free space you can install to12:20
AmdpcActionParsnip : Is it also possible to make partitions of the fs which I am currently using (fs where Ubuntu is installed)?12:22
chiyaanlist package in ubuntu 11.412:22
unknown_hunkActionParsnip: can we fschk ntfs filesystem in ubuntu??? as windows does12:23
chiyaantypes of list in ubuntu 11.4 package?12:23
eypalin case here is somebody from Canonical Ltd please could you give a private message for me. I do have something business stuff in my mind, a kind of checking up one thing one your website. Have been trying to email you but haven't gotten reply. Thank you so much.12:23
ActionParsnipunknown_hunk: there is a checking in ntfsprogs but I'd do it in a windows OS so you know its good. NTFS is proprietary12:24
llutz_chiyaan: whats your native language, where do you come from?12:24
unknown_hunkActionParsnip: why not ubuntu community can develop that fschk for ntfs   why would we switch every time to window for that????12:25
llutz_unknown_hunk: if you care about running windows, why do you use ntfs?12:26
ameer__Ell0 everybody.,12:26
chiyaanidont know correct english but i m interested in ubuntu help12:26
llutz_chiyaan: whats your native language, where do you come from?12:26
ameer__does anyone knows how to install gnome-shell on ubuntu 11.10?12:26
unknown_hunkllutz_: all system dont have linux in them. but i have only one system that have ubuntu thats why for cross platform12:27
llutz_!oneiric | ameer__12:27
ubottuameer__: Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu.  Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646 Discussion and support in #ubuntu+112:27
ActionParsnipunknown_hunk: NTFS s proprietary. Microsoft have not publicised how NTFS works so until that day it won't be 100% accurate. You are shouting at the wring people. Go moan at microsoft12:28
llutz_unknown_hunk: ntfs is a proprietary fs, all tools have to be reverse engineered. that's not that easy in most cases and the reason why some things aren't available yet12:28
unknown_hunkllutz_: ok i got my answer12:29
unknown_hunkllutz_: ok12:30
llutz_unknown_hunk: ask MS to free the sources and you'll have all the tools you need very soon ;)12:30
rabbi1how to recover the grub ?12:30
Amdpc!grub | rabbi112:31
ubotturabbi1: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)12:31
yujinhow to clean invalid ppa12:32
MonkeyDustanyone has a solution for the kworker bug? http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-717919%5D-re-acpi-kworker-high-interrupts-134097/12:34
ActionParsnipyujin: use ppa-purge12:35
yujinthank you12:35
rabbi1can i restore grub of 9.10 from a 11.04 live cd ?12:36
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ActionParsniprabbi1: sure, you can boot to liveCD and reinstate grub2 easily with chroot12:39
rabbi1ActionParsnip: thanks12:40
ActionParsniprabbi1: np12:40
IbisWhen a terminal window hangs, because it becomes "running process". IS there something I can type to release it?  Without interrupting the process with ^C      Or CTRL+C?12:42
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ikoniarabbi1: are you still having a problem ?12:44
LasersIbis: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/05/unix-background-job/ -- I think you want #212:44
hejhey, I have a usb cable, connected to a switch and need to use it as a serial line, but the usb cable is reconized as a NIC... do I need a special driver or something else?12:44
hejI would like to be able to use minicom on /dev/ttyUSBx or something like that12:45
rabbi1ikonia: yeah, trying to load 11.04 from USB, takes hell lot of time... i am just getting DRDY ERR, ABRT from 15 mins :(12:45
IbisWOW, that's soooo cool. Thanks Lasers. And now I also learned how to foreground it. xD12:46
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ikoniarabbi1: why are you trying to upgrade when your machine has a hardware error12:46
rabbi1not trying to upgrade, just got to restore my grub12:47
dr_willis as long as you chroot in. You should be able to rabbi112:48
dr_willisis 9.10 usin grub1 or 2? i forget./12:48
ActionParsniphej: may help http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking12:48
ActionParsnipdr_willis: 212:48
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yujinYppa is a powerful sofware to manage ppa12:51
xulliwhat website do you prefer to checkout the latest linux news ?12:51
Ibisyujin: What makes it so powerful?12:51
yujineasy to use ,haha12:52
M^jseongtae76Hello, everyone~12:53
ffk27__hi12:53
ActionParsnipxulli: omgubuntu is good if you want superficial stuff like themes and stuff with a smattering of useful apps12:53
martiertyujin: vim is a powerfull tool to manage ppa!:P12:53
M^jseongtae76I'm Korean Student, so sometimes you can not understand what I say12:53
hejActionParsnip, that's about how to set usb-usb up for IP communication... I need to use it as if it was a serial line..12:53
yujino,o  i like emacs,but i'm fresh12:54
ActionParsniphej: not sure there dude12:54
hejActionParsnip, got a dell powerconnect M6220 with usb-console interface12:54
M^jseongtae76My ssh server (openssh)'s private key is strange12:54
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M^jseongtae76Sometimes, my private key is working12:55
wereHamsterwhy would ssh pubkey authentication not work from a 8.04.4 client to a 10.04 server?12:55
wereHamsterthe key is silently ignored by the server12:55
jimbumbaare there any tools which can help a bit in reverse engineering built in in ubuntu? i count "strings" tool12:55
M^jseongtae76but, after about 5 minutes my private key is not working12:55
wereHamsterjimbumba: since ubuntu is open source, you can look at the source12:56
jimbumbaparticularly disasembling into c12:56
ActionParsnipwereHamster: tried reimporting the key?12:56
jimbumbanaa... i want work on a c code executable12:56
wereHamsterActionParsnip: import where? Both are servers, there are no agents running12:56
islamguys any body have any idea about ytalk and how it works ?12:56
martiertjimbumba: guess you'll have to look hard to find a c disasembler. Your best shot it to get a assembly12:57
M^jseongtae76ActionParsnip, yes to ~.ssh12:57
ActionParsnipislam: http://linux.die.net/man/1/ytalk12:57
islamthanx, Actionparsnip12:57
dj_beiruthi.. i am getting this error when i try to run deluged: http://pastebin.com/9UdG6RJR any ideas what the problem can be?12:58
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ActionParsnipdj_beirut: 1) Why run deluge with sudo   2) You don't run GUI apps with sudo, use gksudo12:58
macer1dj_beirut: you version of deluge is not compatible with this12:58
ActionParsnipdj_beirut: what is the output of:  apt-cache policy deluge12:59
ActionParsnipdj_beirut: pastebin the output please12:59
dj_beirutdeluge:12:59
dj_beirut  Installed: (none)12:59
dj_beirut  Candidate: 1.3.3-0~natty~ppa212:59
dj_beirut  Version table:12:59
dj_beirut     1.3.3-0~natty~ppa2 012:59
FloodBot1dj_beirut: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:59
dj_beirut        500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/deluge-team/ppa/ubuntu/ natty/main i386 Packages12:59
dj_beirutsorry! :(13:00
ActionParsnipdj_beirut: use a pastebin.....13:00
Ibis!pastebin | dj_beirut13:00
zHammeRzwhy even have topics no one even reads it13:00
ubottudj_beirut: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.13:00
rabbi1ikonia: now i got ubuntu logo on screen :) a bit happy at last13:00
dj_beirutit was really the wrong window :/13:00
KM0201zHammeRz: so we can complain about people not reading it.13:00
M^jseongtae76please help me!13:00
ActionParsnipdj_beirut: seems you are using tehe deluge team ppa, which we cannot support here13:00
IbisI've always wanted to do that. xD13:01
ActionParsnipdj_beirut: it's cool man, just pastebin next time :D13:01
teweWorkis there a shortcut key in the terminal to repeat last typed word?13:01
DeltaEpsilon!encrypt13:01
ubottuFor information on setting up encrypted private directories (8.10+) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory13:01
llutz_teweWork:  alt .13:01
islamup arrow13:01
teweWorklast typed word in the same line13:01
llutz_oh13:02
islamtewewrok, up arrow13:02
M^jseongtae76My ssh private key is bad13:02
teweWorkfor example i wanna copy a file but change it's name slightly13:02
M^jseongtae76private key is first time, that is work13:02
zHammeRzno, up arrow is the last command..correct answer given by llutz13:02
KM0201M^jseongtae76: so delete it.13:02
llutz_zHammeRz: nope13:02
KM0201and make a new one13:02
dj_beirutActionParsnip i don't need to use that.. i just followed a guide. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143378313:02
IbisM^jseongtae76: How do you know? What error message pops up that tells you so?13:02
M^jseongtae76KMO201, I was13:02
zHammeRzwhatever13:03
jojo__hi is there anyone who can help me??13:03
llutz_zHammeRz: alt .   repeats last word from previous command, not last typed word in same line13:03
M^jseongtae76Ibis, wait please13:03
jojo__im new to ubuntu13:03
islamthe paste shortcut is ctrl+shift+v13:03
ActionParsnipjojo__: ask and see13:03
BluesKajHey all13:03
ActionParsniphi BluesKaj13:03
jojo__can any one here help13:03
KM0201!ask | jojo_13:03
ubottujojo_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)13:03
BluesKajhi ActionParsnip13:03
M^jseongtae76Ibis, my error message: Authentication method 'publickey' with key 'id_rsa' failed13:03
rabbi1just use shift key for copy and paste from terminal with ctrl "tast"13:03
greenmang0teweWork, i don't think there's any such command.. just use tab completion and modify ...13:04
ikoniarabbi1: I'll ask again, why are you doing this when your hardware has an problem13:04
KM0201M^jseongtae76: is that all it says?13:04
teweWorkgreenmang0: ok, thx13:04
jojo_KM0201, ubottu dont tell me tell jojo__ (two underscores)13:04
IbisM^jseongtae76: Name of software used thtat made this popup?13:04
KM0201ah...13:04
ikoniarabbi1: send the hardware back for RMA, then deal with ubuntu13:04
KM0201:)13:04
jojo__Internet Connection Sharing – Ubuntu 10.04 NAT Gateway Setup (Abridged Version)13:04
M^jseongtae76KMO201, yes13:04
jojo_B)13:04
rabbi1ikonia: may be misuderstanding, my hardware has no problem. how did you conclude this?13:04
jojo__i want to perform this is one13:04
jojo__Internet Connection Sharing – Ubuntu 10.04 NAT Gateway Setup (Abridged Version)13:05
lokodomainHey Peeps, anyone know how to use ubuntu desktop as root without using the command line, trying to extract some fonts that I downloaded and keep getting permission denied13:05
M^jseongtae76Ibis, ConnectBOT(android application)13:05
ikoniarabbi1: because you said you couldnj't see the CDROM or disk from the bios13:05
ActionParsnip!ics | jojo__13:05
ubottujojo__: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing13:05
jojo__i acuatly done that13:05
ActionParsnipM^jseongtae76: connectbot ROCKS!13:05
mbeierlsuddenly my natty classic desktop with compiz/cube started rotating really slowly, but only when I drag a window off the edge to initiate the cube rotate13:05
M^jseongtae76Ibis, putty says error. too13:05
rabbi1ikonia: o, ok, that could be cdrom problem... not worried about that right now13:05
mbeierllokodomain: um... alt-f2 then "gksu file-roller"?13:06
Xenethlokodomain: are you trying to extract it to a location that allows root only?13:06
jojo__http://www.somewhereville.com/?p=1196 --> this what i done13:06
rabbi1ikonia: right now, i got some important job to finish, and unable to boot. i just need the data of hard disk.13:06
jojo__can you check on this one guys13:06
lokodomain@ Xeneth yea thats right13:06
rabbi1ikonia: got to finish this at the earliest, have very less time..13:06
jojo__i try everything to share internet but it wont work13:06
Fantec_is there any doc that list needed kernel options to compile ?13:06
lokodomain@mbeierl using file roller already, just denied by permissions13:07
M^jseongtae76Ibis, How to I can fix that13:07
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jojo__any one who can help me13:07
Fantec_(11.04 just stop at init with own kernel, a init=/bin/bash is OK)13:07
IbisM^jseongtae76: I'm looking that up right now.13:07
mbeierllokodomain: you're not running file-roller under sudo, though.  that's why I was wondering if gksu file-roller was what you wanted.13:07
jojo__is there any one here13:07
islamis there a command to kill whatever process running on the terminal ?13:08
ActionParsnipjojo__: you can clearly see users chatting, so YES people are here13:08
M^jseongtae76Ibis, thanks I will wait13:08
h00kislam: ctrl+c (^c)13:08
jojo__<ActionParsnip> ive done this one. = > http://www.somewhereville.com/?p=119613:08
rabbi1islam: ctrl c, ctrl z13:08
Xenethislam: Ctrl + C13:08
lokodomain@mbeierl No I wasn't running file roller under sudo just as a normal user13:08
ActionParsnipjojo__: I saw the link13:08
islamit doesnt work with ytalk and some other things13:08
ActionParsnipjojo__: Ive never set it up so cannot personally relpy intelligently13:08
mbeierllokodomain: that's what 'gksu' does - it launches a graphical app as sudo13:09
greenmang0rabbi1, Ctrl + z  suspends it does not kill13:09
jojo__<ActionParsnip> but still my my windows client cannot pullup website13:09
lokodomainI'm sure most people would love to know how to use Ubuntu without all the permissions and the command line stuff, then my girl would be able to use it13:09
jojo__is there any one here who knows this one.? <ActionParsnip>13:09
ikonial/last rabbi113:10
lokodomain@mbeierl  gksu from the command line right..?13:10
IdleOnegksudo13:10
rabbi1ikonia: yeah13:10
rabbi1??13:10
jojo__any hre who can help me13:10
mbeierllokodomain: or alt-f2.  IdleOne: that's right, thanks!13:10
IdleOnejojo__: with?13:10
ikoniajojo__: what's the issue13:11
rabbi1jojo__: which one?13:11
greenmang0islam, you can use "pkill ytalk"13:11
IbisM^jseongtae76: Is this what you're doing here? http://michaelchelen.net/articles/android-connectbot-ssh-key-auth-howto.html13:12
kkulhavyHello13:12
llutz_teweWork:  am i too late? "ctrl-w ctrl-y ctrl-y" does ;)13:12
M^jseongtae76Anyone, know how to fix access error for other hard disk13:12
kkulhavyHow do I make Libreoffice speak german?13:12
M^jseongtae76Ibis, wait please13:12
jojo__hello can any one here who can help me13:12
MonkeyDustanyone has a solution for the kworker bug? http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-717919%5D-re-acpi-kworker-high-interrupts-134097/13:12
islamis there a task manager for linux like the one in windows ? and can I do it from the terminal ?13:12
kkulhavyEverything in the system speaks German, just my Libreoffice after installation speaks English13:12
rabbi1islam: open another terminal and use pkill, also you can pass arguments for it. just have a look. very handy13:12
greenmang0llutz, nice one :)13:12
kkulhavyI tried some howto how to install language packs but it said all of the packages are already installed.13:12
ActionParsnipislam: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33106513:13
jojo__hello13:13
teweWorkllutz_: thx, nice trick :)13:13
jojo__anyone here who can help13:13
lokodomain@mbeierl thanks!13:13
ActionParsnipislam: there is the same in terminal with:  top13:13
jpdskkulhavy: Install libreoffice-l10n-de ?13:13
DonaldStrachanhello13:13
IdleOnejojo__: we are all here to help. what do you need help with?13:13
M^jseongtae76Ibis, Thanks I solved!13:14
kkulhavyjpds, thanks, I will try to apt-get install it!13:14
IbisM^jseongtae76, when messing with ssh, I hope you typed in: yourUsername@ip-or-host.com13:14
islamand how can I close one of them on terminal ?13:14
IbisYou're welcome.13:14
mbeierllokodomain: you're welcome.  there should be an enhancement to file-roller which allows you to become su, like an 'unlock' type button, but for now, that appears to be the closest there is13:14
jojo__http://www.somewhereville.com/?p=1196 --> I want to share internet on my network using this one and i follow all the step and my window cannot pullup any website <IdleOne>13:14
IdleOne!ics | jojo__13:15
ubottujojo__: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing13:15
DonaldStrachanwhat can u ppl tell me?13:15
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IbisM^jseongtae76: Otherwise, without the @username,  it'll pick default user. Like root.  And if the root's password is wrong, an error of failed authencation is morelikely to result.13:15
M^jseongtae76Ibis, ok thanks have a good day13:15
IbisYou too.13:15
IdleOneDonaldStrachan: about?13:15
DonaldStrachanIdleOne, whatever interests you13:15
Ibiss/@username/username@13:16
DonaldStrachansurprise me13:16
bazhang!ot | DonaldStrachan13:16
ubottuDonaldStrachan: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:16
IdleOneDonaldStrachan: this channel is for Ubuntu support, please join #ubuntu-offtopic if you feel like chatting13:16
DonaldStrachanok IdleOne, what is Ubuntu about? thatz not off topic13:16
kkulhavyjpds, thanks! bingo! direct hit! It Just Works (TM)13:16
jpdskkulhavy: Grosartig.13:17
IdleOneDonaldStrachan: www.ubuntu.com has info.13:17
IbisDonaldStrachan: Lol, first time using Ubuntu? o_O13:17
DonaldStrachanclicking links can be dangerous IdleOne, that's how computers get virus'13:17
DonaldStrachanyes Ibis13:17
Ibis!troll13:17
DonaldStrachanah, an OS13:17
IdleOneDonaldStrachan: I'm going to tollerate very little trolling.13:17
DonaldStrachaninteresting13:17
llutz_DonaldStrachan:  .. take your fish and troll away <°))))><13:18
MonkeyDustnice fish :)13:18
IbisROFL @ llutz_13:18
greenmang0:D13:18
DonaldStrachanthat's ok IdleOne, tolerate whatever you wish...i am just here to understand...already learnt something new, that there is an OS called Ubuntu13:18
bazhangDonaldStrachan, wrong place please stop13:18
DonaldStrachanu ppl are soooo sensitive13:19
hypertyperwhen I hove over a window without clicking it, I don't have the tool bar X O _ which is really annoying (Ubuntu 11.04). Is that normal?13:19
kkulhavyI am afraid DonaldStrachan feels disrespected13:19
progzyHello, a idea about how "_" could be taken into account in "/etc/fstab/" file please? It is bypassed in my case.13:19
KMNsadfacehello, i'm having a HUGE problem and i sort of need it fixed ASAP im even willing to pay with PayPal LOL, im really desperate to fix my computer because i need my work files.13:19
IdleOne!ask | KMNsadface13:20
ubottuKMNsadface: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)13:20
Ristovskihello, I have a problem , I installed ubuntu on an sd card I booted all was well until I got an error " this computer has 0 bytes remaining" althouhh there were 2 Gb left on the card13:20
vivHow could I  change default text editor from evince to gedit on Firefox in Ubuntu10.1013:20
greenmang0progzy, what to you mean by "_" taken into account?13:20
greenmang0got dc13:21
progzygreenmang0: I mean that "www_site1" is interpreted as "www" only13:21
DonaldStrachanok, I have a valid question....why don't you guys rather use debian?13:22
greenmang0progzy, oh.. let me try13:22
LjLjojo__: you can speak again now. the bot mistakenly muted you.13:22
PiciDonaldStrachan: This channel is for support only, try #ubuntu-offtopic for chat.13:22
bazhangDonaldStrachan, thats offtopic here. #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat13:22
DonaldStrachanoh13:22
greenmang0progzy, is it a mount point?13:23
Ristovskianyone can help ? I have a problem , I installed ubuntu on an sd card I booted all was well until I got an error " this computer has 0 bytes remaining" althouhh there were 2 Gb left on the card13:23
greenmang0progzy, what's the entry in /etc/fstab?13:23
windmillanyone know how to configure a Sentelic FingerSensingPad to do scrolling?13:23
KMNsadfacehello, im having a problem with my MBR, also my /dev/sda2 *win7 is labeled as Unknown?; possibly damaged how can i fix this; http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/91753173.png/13:23
Ristovskiwindmill : ask your vendor13:24
zulaxi am trying to compile a c++ code with windows.h in it, can i just comment it out?13:24
progzygreenmang0: http://pastebin.com/zFkeP8Px13:24
Ristovskizulax : yes13:24
windmillRistovski, Sentelic?13:24
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zulaxRistovski, how do i download header files in ubuntu? I need gl/GL.h13:25
Ibisviv: Follow these instructions: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/04/change-firefoxs-view-source-default.html13:25
progzygreenmang0: paste updated13:25
Ristovskizulax : iDunno13:25
Ibisviv: Do NOT change anything unless you can somehow remember the defaults.13:25
progzygreenmang0: "ftp.example.com/www_site1" is interpreted as "ftp.example.com/www"13:25
Ibisviv, in firefox, visit this URL: about:config13:26
vivIbis : OK13:26
Ibisviv: You may need to restart firefox after you've successfully made all the changes.        (if you can't remember, you're better of copy-pasting default settings into gedit or whatever text editor you like to use).13:27
mbeierlKMNsadface: What have you attempted so far?  I found this overview to be quite helpful when things have gone wrong for me: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery13:27
KMNsadfacembeierl: mind if i ask you to assist me? i really cant afford to screw anything up.13:28
IbisData recovery? OOO sounds scary. >.<13:29
mbeierlKMNsadface: I do not mind, but I am no expert, and I would prefer to keep it in this channel so others can benefit/monitor to make sure I don't give bad advice13:29
zulaxwhat packages do i need to download for gl/GL.h ?13:30
mbeierlKMNsadface: having said that, I have recovered from serious mishaps before.  it can be done13:30
KMNsadfacembeierl: alright, where should i begin?13:30
greenmang0progzy, are you able to mount without "www_site1" ?13:30
vivIbis: I have opened about:config in firefox , Now what I will do?13:30
Ibisviv: Follow the steps in the URL I gave you, you now do step 2.13:31
Ibismbeierl: Deleted or lost files can sometimes be recovered from failed or formatted drives and partitions.    <--- Keyword is /sometimes/.13:31
dr_willis!find GL.h13:32
mbeierlKMNsadface: first thing I need to ask - and please don't take offence - is do you know what you did to get your disk to this state?13:32
ubottuFound: glchess13:32
smaller_hi people , how to change regulatory domain on UBUNTU 11.04 ?13:32
progzygreenmang0: ok I 've found the problem : me . No need to escape anything ... My bad ... I expected directories that are not supposed to be there. Thank you for your help13:33
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multi_io_is there some existing way (udev setting etc.) to make ubuntu auto-mount USB storage devices which don't have partitions, but rather have the whole device formatted using vfat?13:33
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greenmang0progzy, :)13:33
alexaprhow can i restore ubuntu to default settings fully13:33
dr_willisalexapr:   You mean user settings.. or system settings.13:33
alexaprsystem settings13:33
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KMNsadfacembeierl: i had win7 and Ubuntu formated and WinXP i deleted WINXP and it screwed up my mbr, i tried to recover it by following a website and managed to f*** things up even worse, thats when i came here - i had to install Backtrack5 R1 because i couldn't boot from Ubuntu or Win7.13:34
dr_willispurge/reinstall packages is the only way i know of alexapr13:34
smaller_hi people , how to change regulatory domain on UBUNTU 11.04 ?13:34
ActionParsnipalexapr: you can reset your user settings by removing all the hidden folders ni $HOME13:34
mbeierlKMNsadface: are you running from a live cd right now, or off an install from the hard disk that needs recovery?13:34
KMNsadfacembeierl: also, i did some partitioning aswell, this was about 2-3weeks ago unfortunately this is my first attempt to fix it because i've been so busy.13:35
KMNsadfacembeierl: currently running from the hard disk that needs recovery.13:35
KMNsadfacembeierl: i do have a second computer beside me where i can come in IRC which would prob be ideal13:35
aljenhi13:35
mbeierlKMNsadface: is /dev/sda2 the only partition that has data which you cannot access?  Are the other operating systems on the disk usable?13:36
smaller_hi people , how to change regulatory domain on UBUNTU 11.04 ?13:36
llutz_smaller_: modinfo <yourwifi-driver>    check if it has parm like "all_channels"13:36
dr_willissmaller_:  i dont think anyone even knows what a regulatory domain is....13:36
dr_willis:)13:36
llutz_!patience | smaller13:36
ubottusmaller: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/13:36
KMNsadfacembeierl: i believe its just sda213:36
smaller_i need to connect to channel 13 , but ubuntu shows just from 1 to 1113:37
mbeierlKMNsadface: ok, is the main objective here to get access to the files, or to recreate the OS that was on sda2?13:37
KMNsadfacembeierl: actually if i remember correctly the error accured after i tried installing backtrack5 R1, it overwrited the ubuntu in grub.13:37
nullcorei just wanted to make a general comment: tasksel rocks.13:37
nullcorethank you, that is all.13:37
root____2hello everyone13:38
mbeierlKMNsadface: as I am not familiar with backtrack, is that a linux distro, and is it there just for recovery, or do you want to keep it?13:38
yixuanHello everyone, I just upgrade 11.10 from 11.04. but when downloading, it failed. so I download many times. Right now, I think files should be downloaded completely, But when I reboot system, it will hang it "checking battery status"13:38
yixuanany idea to fix it?13:38
arandnullcore: just a general warning: don't attempt to uninstall anything using it ;)13:39
KMNsadfacembeierl: i want to keep it, and yes its a linux distro.13:39
BluesKaj!backtrack13:39
ubottuThere are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition13:39
KMNsadfacembeierl: http://www.backtrack-linux.org/13:39
rabbi1how to stop "preparing to install ubuntu" window on a live CD ?13:39
usr13yixuan: You may need to re-install.  When upgrade does not completely finish, it is hard to recover.13:40
BluesKajKMNsadface, read the bot post above13:40
dr_willisrabbi1:  if its resizeing the hard disks.. you dont want to stop it. You could  break any other os's or partitons on the disk.13:40
mbeierlKMNsadface: ok, so that's a start: you have a good installation on that disk, and you can boot it.  The partitions other than sda2 are mountable and readable by backtrack.  So, first, we will try to recover the sda2 partition.13:40
Ibisviv: Lemme know if that worked out for you.13:40
vivIbis : Thank You ,I have done this13:41
rabbi1dr_willis: no no, its before partitioning, still in initial stage, the "quit" button has no effect13:41
yixuanusr13: how can I re-install it? format my disk? or upgrade again?13:41
mbeierlKMNsadface: are you in backtrack right now?  Is it possible for you to switch to an ubuntu live cd (or usb) for the remainder of this session?13:41
dr_willisrabbi1:  sounds like its totally crashed. can you get to the console?  You could just reboot the machine i guess.13:41
rabbi1dr_willis: i don't need to install it right now, just got to restore my previous grud, i just need to go to Live CD desktop13:41
usr13yixuan: If you have a separate partition for /home you can leave it un-formatted and re-use it after re-install.  Otherwise, back-up your personal files and just reinstall and restore them.13:41
yixuanusr13: another information is, if I type startx can work13:41
dr_willisrabbi1:  you clicked install instead of 'try' at the start?13:41
rabbi1dr_willis: reboot is done, but takes lot of time to get back to this mode again13:41
rabbi1dr_willis: yeah, my bad13:42
usr13yixuan: It might.  Try and see.13:42
KMNsadfacembeierl: yes, i can change computers; but my LiveCD is actually on my ubuntu partition that i cant log into lol13:42
dr_willisrabbi1:  not sure of the best way to get to it. if you can get to the console, you could try 'sudo service gdm restart'13:42
rabbi1dr_willis: o great, will try with F613:42
KMNsadfacembeierl: if we fix my ubuntu ill be able to grab my USB drive folder from the Desktop and toss it on my USB stick, unless you want me to just redownload it.13:42
mbeierlKMNsadface: I'd like you to try the first step of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#GNU_Parted and tell me what happens13:42
rabbi1dr_willis: no effect :(13:43
BluesKajoops sorry KMNsadface I thought you were one of those backtrackers looking for help it13:43
mbeierlKMNsadface: just note that if there's anything different about backtrack (like how to use apt-get to retrieve packages), I don't know how to help there, but other than that, tools are tools regardless of the linux flavour, I believe13:44
rabbi1dr_willis: what could be the process name of that ?13:44
KMNsadfacembeierl: will i be doing these commands while on BT?13:44
usr13yixuan: Not certain what you have there (what condition your system is really in), but you will more-than-likely need an install CD.13:44
mbeierlKMNsadface: this is where the "keeping it in the channel" is handy.  can anyone contradict me that parted is parted regardless of distro?13:45
usr13yixuan: ... CD or USB  ...13:45
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alex___hello13:45
h00kmbeierl: I'm pretty sure parted is parted as well13:45
mbeierlKMNsadface: Let's just go ahead and try the parted steps under bt.13:45
mbeierlh00k: thanks :)13:45
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IdleOnembeierl: if you are going to help them with bt please join #backtrack-linux to do it.13:46
Int-Vent-iveBestRegards13:46
KMNsadfacembeierl: okay for the 2nd command ill want to put /sda2 correct?13:46
eroziodoes anyone know how to install yagf? i got 10.0413:46
Int-Vent-iveBestRegards13:47
Int-Vent-ivethere's some alternative to Cairo-Dock? ;D13:47
h00kKMNsadface: alternatively, use an Ubuntu Live CD/USB13:47
Picierozio: Waht is yagf?13:47
mbeierlIdleOne: i'm not helping with bt, I'm helping to recover a dead partition.  I'm using ubuntu guides to do it.  I'm just moving things along by not forcing a re-download and boot of the Ubuntu live cd at this stage.13:47
erozioPici: software for converting text from jpg or smthing to txt =)13:48
mix22891hello13:48
chris____hello13:48
mix22891how do i13:48
mbeierlKMNsadface: no, as this is an operation on the entire partition table, we want to see what parted thinks of it as a whole, so "sudo parted /dev/sda"13:48
greenmang0Int-Vent-ive, docky13:48
Picierozio: What do you mean? Like an image to ascii art?13:48
bastidrazorInt-Vent-ive: avant window navigator13:48
KMNsadfacembeierl: ~nicoulaj@wsg-proxy2.bull.fr] has quit [Remote host closed  the connection]13:48
KMNsadface08:48 < mix22891> hello13:49
yixuanusr13: I upgrade it through network. for 11.04, I installed it from dvd13:49
KMNsadfaceah wtf, sec13:49
erozioPici: no. imagine that u have a scan of a document, but it's jpg.13:49
KMNsadfacembeierl: http://pastebin.com/SbwWtDBZ13:49
AlecTaylorWhere is the binary for the "Terminal" app? - I can't get the mouse to work, so I'm browsing /bin for it13:49
llutz_erozio: OCR software you mean, optical char recognition13:49
usr13yixuan: You could re-install 11.0413:49
KMNsadfacembeierl: okay, my mistake second.13:49
mbeierlAlecTaylor: gnome-terminal ?13:49
eroziollutz_: yes...13:49
Int-Vent-iveyup indeed, I will try Thks alot!13:49
jsebeanHi13:50
rabbi1how to get into my laptop installed terminal, from live cd terminal13:50
ActionParsniprabbi1: use a chroot13:50
yixuanusr13: can I fix my current system? since gnome can work, but default when reboot, it will hang, not sure why. do you have the process?13:50
Picierozio: Ah, I don't see any packages for it, I think you'd need to build from source.  I suggest using checkinstall to facilitate that.13:50
mbeierlKMNsadface: ok, try just as /dev/sda.  that makes sense that it's an unrecognized label as the partition itself does not have a partition table inside it :)13:50
jsebeanI have tried to install ubuntu multiple times, when it reboots to the HDD it boots up Ubiquity as if it's not installed, any ideas? I'm using USB13:50
AlecTaylormbeierl: Where is that binary?13:50
mix22891rude boy13:50
ActionParsnipjsebean: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?13:51
Stanley00AlecTaylor: it's /usr/bin/gnome-terminal13:51
mbeierlAlecTaylor: sorry: /usr/bin/gnome-terminal13:51
jsebeanNo though I was just thinking of that13:51
jsebeanthough i tried both the 64bit and 32bit iso13:51
onlineamateurjsebean: Are you removeing the usb drive?13:51
AlecTaylorThanks mbeierl, Stanley0013:51
KMNsadfacembeierl: http://pastebin.com/KTD34KeJ13:51
usr13rabbi1: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download13:51
ActionParsnipjsebean: still needs checking. Torrents help get good images13:51
erozioPici: i have read about some repos of yagf, but i can't use them13:51
jsebeanand yes I even removed the USB but I am sure it's booting to HDD because I even changed the boot order to HDD13:51
usr13yixuan: Does gnome work?13:51
jsebeanWhere can i find the origional MD5?13:52
ActionParsnip!hashes13:52
ubottuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of Ubuntu discs.13:52
llutz_erozio: seems getdeb has deb-files for it13:52
Picierozio: Why not?13:52
jsebeanthank you13:52
mbeierlKMNsadface:first, do a13:52
erozioPici: and i tried installing from sources with "./configure && make &&makeinstall" but it didn't help13:52
yixuanusr13: yes, it seems work actually. I am using xchat on it. I type startx in tty113:52
mbeierlKMNsadface: "print" command in parted13:52
jsebeani'll be back after I check it13:52
mix22891how do i run .msi file ?13:52
Picierozio: Well, did you get errors?13:53
AlecTaylorHyper-V: Are there tools available that let me use the mouse in the VM?13:53
Stanley00mix22891: you cant13:53
usr13yixuan:  Oh, well, you can recover.13:53
eroziollutz_: getdeb... that's nice. how to add this repo?13:53
mbeierlKMNsadface: that is where you should find the START and END numbers for the rescue command13:53
h00k!wine | mix2289113:53
ubottumix22891: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu13:53
mix22891it's steam program, i need it13:53
llutz_erozio: check getdeb.net, they should have documentation on that13:53
erozioPici: no, nothing13:53
usr13yixuan: lsb_release -a   #What does that say?13:53
eroziollutz_: thnks13:53
rabbi1ActionParsnip: chroot "option" is what?13:53
mix22891wine sayed that is not excusible file13:53
rabbi1also, it says grub is not loaded13:54
h00kmix22891: check in #winehq13:54
KMNsadfacembeierl: http://pastebin.com/5BytnVGK13:54
rabbi1also, it says grub is not *installed13:54
h00k!appdb > mix2289113:54
ubottumix22891, please see my private message13:54
Picierozio: You should take a look at the INSTALL or README file(s) that come in the yagf tarball.13:54
erozioPici: i run "./configure" first, but nothing happened13:54
usr13rabbi1: What CD did you install from?13:54
erozioi checked them13:54
ActionParsniprabbi1: you can change the terminal from the liveCD to the installed one after you mount the system partition13:55
erozioPici: i checked them =)13:55
yixuanusr13: sent lsb result for you in private window, it is 11.1013:55
mix22891thanks ubottu13:55
erozioPici: there's only some common info about yagf13:55
mbeierlKMNsadface: ok, now try "rescue 518MB   250GB"13:55
ActionParsnipmix22891: you need to use chmod to make the file executable13:55
usr13yixuan: sudo apt-get update13:56
jsebeanHi all I checked the MD5 of both images they are both identical to !hash13:56
Picierozio: It looks like it requires qmake, install that and tnhen run qmake in that path.13:56
rabbi1ActionParsnip: ok, thats not the situation here, I had installed 9.10 and the grub crashed (or may be not loading properly) then tried to get 11.04 Live CD and trying to restore my previous grub.13:56
mix22891ActionParsnip:  what is chmod?13:56
yixuanusr13: seems normal.13:56
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usr13yixuan: sudo apt-get upgrade13:56
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erozioPici: could u describe that more detailed please?13:57
jsebeanHi all I checked the MD5 of both images they are both identical to the md5 on the ubuntu website.... I am still getting ubiquity after I boot to the HDD, any ideas?13:57
jsebeanBy both images I mean the 32bit and 64bit13:57
Ristovskianyone help me?13:58
KMNsadfacembeierl: okay did it but nothing popped up or did anything just went below it and still says parted13:58
rabbi1I had installed 9.10 and the grub crashed (or may be not loading properly) then tried to get 11.04 Live CD and trying to restore my previous grub.13:58
mix22891ActionParsnip:  what is chmod?13:58
DeadPandaIs there much I can do when Banshee keeps stubbornly refusing to write metadata to files?13:58
jsebeanChmod is permissions13:58
usr13!grub | rabbi113:58
ubotturabbi1: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)13:58
chris____@Ristovski shoot...13:58
mbeierlKMNsadface: print again?  and paste output?13:58
KMNsadfacembeierl: http://pastebin.com/1e7M5dxa13:59
jsebeanmix22891: you use chmod to change permissions of files. Eg. to make them executable.13:59
ActionParsnipmix22891: its a way to change if something is writable, readable and executable13:59
Ristovskichris____  i installed to SD card ... booted then a fucking message box comes out saying not enough space when there is 2GB left13:59
KMNsadfacembeierl: http://pastebin.com/X9GvfWRV13:59
jsebeanHi all I checked the MD5 of both images i downloaded of ubuntu they are both identical to the md5 on the ubuntu website.... I am still getting ubiquity after I boot to the HDD, any ideas? I installed with USB.13:59
h00k!language | Ristovski14:00
ubottuRistovski: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.14:00
Ristovskijsebean : you used live cd and THEN installed to USB? or directly?14:00
usr13Ristovski: sudo fdisk -l  | pastebinit14:00
Ristovskiusr13 : I cant get on linux!14:00
ActionParsnipmix22891: if the file is stored on FAT or NTFS then it will not hold the executableness. You will need to mount the entire partition so that ALL files are executable. If it is stored in a linux file system then this will work fine14:00
Ristovskiyou get the point?14:00
mbeierlKMNsadface: ok, so it did not recognize a filesystem on the partition.  you said that is the ubuntu install?  So the filesystem should be ext4?14:00
erozioPici: are u still with me?14:01
Picierozio: It looks like getdeb has built packages for yagf: http://www.getdeb.net/software/yagf14:01
mbeierlRistovski: calm down, pleaes14:01
usr13Ristovski: One of your partitions is obviously full.  You need to find out which one it is and change partition sizes to suit your needs.14:01
RistovskiI cant...Im trying to fix ubuntu for 2 months14:01
erozioPici: yes, llutz__ has told me that 2 mins ago14:01
jsebeanRistovski : I used USB to install the OS. No CD involved. And I didn't boot in the "live cd" to test ubuntu at all, i just directly installed it14:01
Ristovskiusr13 : there is 2GB left...14:01
usr13Ristovski: On which partitions?  What partitions do you have?14:02
erozioPici: by the way, how did u understand, that getdeb has packeges?14:02
Promille_Is irc.ubuntu.com and irc.freenode.org the same server?14:02
rubbsDoes anyone else have an issue with terminal bells not sounding with Unity?14:02
PiciPromille_: yes14:02
erozioPici: i mean, how to find repos?14:02
Promille_Pici: ok, thanks14:02
Picierozio: I just did some various google searches.14:02
KMNsadfacembeierl: win7,14:02
KMNsadfacembeierl: Sda1 is the boot i think or whatever for win7 and sda2 is the actual win714:03
jsebeanHi all I checked the MD5 of both images i downloaded of ubuntu they are both identical to the md5 on the ubuntu website.... I am still getting ubiquity after I boot to the HDD, any ideas? I installed with USB, I used another computer with Ubuntu and used the startup disk creator to make the bootable USB.14:03
erozioPici: ohhh i failed them =( there were only results in my native language, and there's nothing about getdeb14:03
erozioPici: anyway, thanks a lot14:03
mbeierlKMNsadface: oh, sorry, misunderstood something then.  ok, so the filesystem itself should be ntfs.  give me a moment, please...14:03
swimI'm using ubuntu 10.04 on a dell d600.  My right alt key does not work.  I've replaced the keyboard twice..14:04
DeadPandasince it looks like Banshee's metadata writing is a little conservative, I'm just putting together a quick and dirty Python script to force metadata updates using the banshee library DB14:05
mbeierlKMNsadface: humour me, tell me if "check 2" in parted does anything useful...14:05
DeadPandaif anybody's interested give me a shout and I'll pastebin it14:05
onlineamateurswim: Open a terminal and type xev and press the key and see if it shows anything14:05
jsebeanoh dear ignore my stupid question I found out whats up, now i feel dumb lol14:05
jsebeanapparently i had an Ubuntu CD also inserted in the Computer, when I took out the USB it booted from CD. UGH sorry14:06
KMNsadfacembeierl: http://pastebin.com/Y2TfxR3F14:06
swimonlineamateur no, it doesn't work there, and neither does the right ctrl key14:06
javier__hi. I'm under ubuntu 11.04 but i want to install in a different partition another linux distribution that would make my batery life longer in order to use it in trips. What advise can you give me? which distribution safe most battery?14:06
h00kjavier__: that would probably be a better discussion for ##linux than in here.14:07
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h00kjavier__: since it's not an Ubuntu specific support question14:07
javier__h00k: you are right14:07
javier__I'll go there. Thanks!14:07
swimjavier__ just install a lxde interface to your ubuntu14:07
ActionParsnipuit14:08
mbeierlKMNsadface: oooo.  that's not so good.  ok, so because it's ntfs and the tools there a little different than normal, the next thing I would recommend doing is finding enough space to make a copy of the partition data and work directly against that instead of the raw partition.14:08
onlineamateurswim: Did it work right after you installed ubuntu?14:09
mbeierlKMNsadface: i don't suppose you have a spare 232gb disk lying around, do you?14:09
swimnope, that's when i first noticed it i believe,  i use that key all the time14:09
javier__swim: what is lxde interface?14:09
KMNsadfacembeierl: i dont have enough space on this hard drive, but i have a computer beside me i could..14:10
KMNsadfacembeierl: i been meaning to reformat the other hardrive anyways so im not worried about losing the data on my other 500gb14:10
mbeierlKMNsadface: how will you copy it there?14:10
swimjavier__ there's some great tutorials online that explain installing alternative interfaces to ubuntu and the benefits of doing so14:10
mbeierlKMNsadface: or can you shut down and install it into the computer under repair?14:10
KMNsadfacembeierl: i have no idea, i could just install the other hard drive in this computer..14:11
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KMNsadfacembeierl: i mean is that what you're asking? is to make a backup of the partition im trying to recover?14:11
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mbeierlKMNsadface: yes, that is basically it.  i would not want to attempt a repair and end up destroying your only copy of the data14:12
javier__swim: that would let me use both unity and lxde interface? is it to choose when loggin in as when you choose unity or classic ubuntu?14:13
mbeierlKMNsadface: the next step is to use the ntfsfix program to see if it can find anything useful in the partition.  Syntax: ntfsfix /dev/sda214:13
mbeierlKMNsadface: but I would like you to have a backup before we try that14:13
swimjavier__ exactly..  only you'd be choosing to login using the lxde interface, which is like running lubuntu, much more lightweight of an interface14:14
KMNsadfacembeierl: alright will you be here when i come back?14:14
mbeierlKMNsadface: why I thought that was your Ubuntu install partition is you said that the live cd was on the ubuntu partition and you could not get to it14:14
javier__swim: that's great, what I was looking for. Thanks, I will google more about it14:14
mbeierlKMNsadface: i should be, depending on how long you're gone :)  I'm around for about 6 more hours14:15
KMNsadfacembeierl: yeah, i have win7 and ubuntu, backtrack 5 r1 heh14:15
swimjavier__ it may not be the answer to your question, but it's worth knowing about and maybe trying at least14:15
KMNsadfacembeierl: lol if it takes me 6hours to install a hard drive.. then id like you to shun me :p14:15
mbeierlKMNsadface: can you just mount that ubuntu partition and put it live cd iso onto a usb stick?14:15
javier__swim: looks better a light interface for my same distribution that another distribution. If it saves battery, may be what I'm looking for14:15
mbeierlKMNsadface: don't tempt fate, man.  you have no idea how wrong things can go even with a simple hdd install :)  But it is better now in the days of SATA than the old ide primary/slave14:16
nullcorearand: why shouldn't i uninstall anything installed using tasksel?14:16
KMNsadfacembeierl: im looking at gparted and i see /dev/sda3 ntfs /label ubuntu...14:17
swimjavier__  i'd at least give it a shot..  it's hard to find other distros that dual boot with ubuntu that don't end up being a big hassle..   now if you install ubuntu after having another distro installed, that's much easier..14:17
mbeierlKMNsadface: so you should be able to "sudo mkdir -p /mnt/ubuntu ; sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/ubuntu"14:17
KMNsadfacembeierl: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/91753173.png/14:18
mbeierlKMNsadface: and voila, you have your ubuntu partition mounted14:18
runleveltenhi folks. in Gnome 2.32.1, how does a user remove the generated entry from under "Connect to server" when using/browsing the remote machine is done - ie: switch off(unmount) what they did with the GUI?14:18
KMNsadfacemb okay so just copy and paste " sudo mkdir -p  /mnt/ubuntu ; sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/ubuntu"14:18
runlevelten(if anyone knows)14:18
mbeierlKMNsadface: oh.  hold up...14:18
swimjavier__ but like those other guys said, i'd ask in the linux channels too..  there are some really knowledgeable people around this server who know a whole lot more about that stuff than i do.. i just thought i'd mention lxde or xfce because i personally like them so much14:18
mbeierlKMNsadface: it says that /dev/sda3 is filesystem type NTFS.  Apparently /that/ is your Windows partition now?!?14:19
KMNsadfacembeierl: honestly.. i have no idea my computer is trolling me :(14:19
javier__lxde is lighter than xfce, isnt it?14:19
mbeierlKMNsadface: so yes, let's try first: "sudo mkdir /mnt/recovery", then "sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/recovery"14:20
KMNsadfacembeierl: /sda3 should be my Ubuntu i believe, /sda5 is Backtrack and /sda2 is win7.. i THINK14:20
MonkeyDustanyone has a solution for the kworker bug? http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-717919%5D-re-acpi-kworker-high-interrupts-134097/14:20
mbeierlKMNsadface: then do a "ls -al /mnt/recovery" and tell me if it there is a  "/mnt/recovery/Windows" or "/mnt/recovery/lost+found"14:21
mbeierlKMNsadface: there will be lots of other files in that directory too14:21
runleveltenah, scratch that, I think I've just had nautilus crash - I thought the desktop icon had been removed14:22
KMNsadfacembeierl: http://pastebin.com/6Yt08hKs14:23
mbeierlKMNsadface: ??  Wow.  that's a new one.  Are there more there, or is that it?  That is definitely an NTFS partition, as shown by the $RECYCLE.BIN14:25
mbeierlanyone here familiary with Wubi?  Would take make an install like what is shown by KMNsadface's pastebin?14:25
KMNsadfacembeierl: thats my ubuntu, i had WoW mounted from my win7 to ubuntu; and rhe recycle bin f*** knows lol14:25
KMNsadfacembeierl: but i do remember seeing it before.14:26
KMNsadfacembeierl: i did use Wubi to install ubuntu if that's what you're asking.14:27
SpiderFredhi when I use pc="uname -n" its just write uname -n, how to make it execute command and write output?14:29
SpiderFred*as variable14:29
llutz_SpiderFred: pc=$(uname -n)14:29
SpiderFredllutz_: thx14:29
mbeierlKMNsadface: ok, that makes sense.  I've never actually seen a Wubi install before.  It's somewhat ... unusual, but it makes sense that it installs Ubuntu under an NTFS file system.  So, yes, then /dev/sda3 is your ubuntu install14:32
mbeierlKMNsadface: busy for a bit, go ahead and put the new HD into your box14:32
Gredeudepends diapers due to irritable bowel syndrm starting at age 50 is a very serious offense against ubuntu14:33
MAREK_BENC_NetBWhat'S Wubi?14:33
Gredeuthink of my future wife14:34
OerHeksWubi is a windows installer for ubuntu inside windows14:34
MAREK_BENC_NetBWhat's Windows?14:34
swimjavier__ yes it is.. sorry i fell asleep14:35
OerHeksplease don't troll, MAREK_BENC_NetB14:35
MAREK_BENC_NetBOk14:35
MAREK_BENC_NetBIs there a way i can Disassemble Initrd?14:36
llutz_MAREK_BENC_NetB: gunzip </boot/initrd.img|cpio -i --make-directories14:38
MAREK_BENC_NetBTy14:38
itai_michaelsonhi,  i have a dpkg question, i need to build a package with a "--enable-password-save " argument, can anyone tell me the syntax ,is it dpkg-i <package name> ----enable-password-save  ?14:41
jribitai_michaelson: you mean as an option to ./configure?14:41
itai_michaelsonjrib, honestly , i'm not sure. in the man page it asked me to build the package with this option , i assumed it can be done with dpkg,14:42
BluesKajbbl14:43
jribitai_michaelson: you would have to rebuild the package after editing debian/rules.  What package?14:43
KMNsadfacembeierl: okay sounds good, sorry for delay i had someone come to the door.14:43
OerHeksafter update flash 10.3.183.10, my chromium askes for ... update 10.3.183.10 :(14:43
itai_michaelsonjrib, openvpn , i've downloaded it with apt , a deb , it's sitting in my var directory14:43
OerHekswhat do i need to do to get this right ?14:44
jrib!source | itai_michaelson14:44
ubottuitai_michaelson: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html14:44
jribitai_michaelson: why do you need this option?14:44
itai_michaelsonjrib,  i want to autologin to the vpn server without having to input my credentials everytime14:45
jribitai_michaelson: in fact I am looking at openvpn's debian/rules now and I see that it was buillt with --enable-password-save14:45
eroziohey guys14:47
itai_michaelsonjrib, well whenever i run openvpn from the terminal everything is ok, but when i run this script "gnome-terminal --working-directory /etc/openvpn -e 'bash -lc "cd /etc/openvpn ;sudo openvpn --config 15\ -\ myvpn\ tw3.ovpn --auth-user-pass credentials ;bash"', it doesnt connect to the vpn, so i assumed it's the enable-password thing (only cause i saw it on the ubuntu forum and the guy who wrote it mentions that option)14:48
erozioi got qt 4.6.2, i need 4.7+ for some software, how to renew it?14:48
jribitai_michaelson: i checked the natty version14:49
itai_michaelsonjrib, oh I'm running karmic14:49
itai_michaelsonjrib, can you check the karmic version for me ?14:50
LmtdAtHow do I check an environment variable?14:50
tomodachiLmtdAt: type export14:50
LmtdAtecho envvar doesn't work, am I doing it wrong, or does the var not exist?14:50
LmtdAttomodachi, beautiful14:50
tomodachiLmtdAt: or echo $yourvariable14:51
llutz_LmtdAt: echo $envvar14:51
tomodachiLmtdAt: beat you!14:51
LmtdAtso, when DISPLAY=":0.0", what does that mean?14:51
tomodachiLmtdAt: it defines where your X server is supposed to start this means from a local machine14:51
LmtdAtdid llutz write reflector?14:51
LmtdAtWhat if DISPLAY isn't present in export?14:52
llutz_LmtdAt: either no X running or just no DISPLAY exported14:53
LmtdAtllutz, ah14:53
martianIs there a keyboard shortcut to open a new tab in a gnome-terminal?14:54
gribouillehi14:54
gribouilleis oneiric beta 2 released?14:54
jribitai_michaelson: i cannot, but you can :)  Did you see ubottu's !source factoid?14:54
llutz_martian: ctrl-shift-t14:54
martianllutz_: thanks!14:55
jrib!karmic | itai_michaelson14:55
ubottuitai_michaelson: Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) was the eleventh release of Ubuntu. !End-Of-Life on April 29th 2011, see http://goo.gl/UUTAB for details.14:55
OerHeksafter update flash 10.3.183.10, my chromium askes for ... update 10.3.183.10 :( what do i need to do to get this right ?14:56
gribouilleis oneiric beta 2 released?14:56
jrib!oneiric | gribouille14:56
ubottugribouille: Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu.  Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646 Discussion and support in #ubuntu+114:56
itai_michaelsonjrib, i saw the link, this fetches the source, how do i tell if the that package was built with that option (yes i know i should upgrade, but my online banking depends on a very specific version of FF...)14:57
eroziohow to update qt libraries?14:57
gribouillejrib, that doesn't answer my question14:57
jribitai_michaelson: read debian/rules in the openvpn* directory14:57
jribgribouille: #ubuntu+1 for your question14:58
itai_michaelsonjrib, is that before or after i build the package ?14:59
jribitai_michaelson: no building, we're just reading the file14:59
itai_michaelsonjrib, thanks14:59
burghello. can i create new email accounts without creating new ubuntu users?14:59
llutz_itai_michaelson: if your "..online banking depends on a very  specific version of FF.." and that needs ancient OS like karmic you'd consider to swap the bank ;)15:00
jribllutz_: yes it does seem like an "interesting" policy15:00
llutz_burg: depends on your mta, "virtual users" is the way to go15:01
itai_michaelsonllutz, thanks, but i didnt choose the bank, my company did15:01
burgllutz, i use postfix15:02
g0rsHi, can I pm anybody about a cultural question or thing?15:02
llutz_itai_michaelson: swap it too :)  but seriously: they should think about that, using that old stuff is not ver safe15:02
MonkeyDustanyone who has heard of and knows a solution for the kworker bug? http://askubuntu.com/questions/33640/kworker-what-is-it-and-why-is-it-hogging-so-much-cpu15:02
necopost11.04 Suspend mode wont work.15:03
llutz_burg: visit postfix.org, use the documentation, read about "virtual users"15:03
jribitai_michaelson: does the site just not work with more recent firefox?  If it's a useragent issue, I'd try just modifying that.  Otherwise, I'd suggest running current ubuntu and installing the firefox version manually using an old tarball15:04
g0rshas anybody used pgp with evolution email client?15:04
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jazonnis it possible to install to a virtual harddrive and boot entirely from that (natively not a vm)? kind of like windows and its native .vhd booting?15:06
compdoca virtual harddrive has to exist somewhere - ram or a file15:07
itai_michaelsonjrib, i think it was build with that option, can you please confirm it : http://paste.ubuntu.com/695147/ ?15:07
jribitai_michaelson: yes, looks like it15:07
itai_michaelsonjrib, ok, so i guess my problem is elsewhere.....15:08
jribitai_michaelson: probably (I have to go now but would probably not be much help with openvpn anyway; good luck)15:08
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itai_michaelsonjrib, thanks, at least i learned about apt today15:09
jazonncompdoc yes as a file, but windows can boot from that file and not an HD install which is what im trying to do with ubuntu if possible15:09
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Teh_Lemonhello15:11
Teh_Lemonis there a way to make a password expire but15:11
Teh_Lemonwhen i want to log back in15:11
Teh_Lemonask for a different password15:11
jpmhI just installed and the firefox is 3. how do I make it upgrade to the 6.15:11
Teh_Lemonlets say... temp passwords for an account15:11
delacin Imagemagick, is it possible to set background color for deskew?15:12
bluebomberTeh_Lemon: Yes. The passwd command.15:12
Teh_Lemonand when you come back, for example ask for root pass to generate a new one15:12
necoposthello15:12
bluebomberTeh_Lemon: You can use passwd to do lots of things with user accounts, like lock them, expire their passwords, etc. $ man passwd15:12
Teh_Lemonwill try15:13
Teh_LemonxD15:13
rabbi1ikonia: hey, what should i do? just got nothing now, tried all. unable to login to system root from live cd terminal :(15:13
MyWayhello, I can't find mouse speed in mouse settings.. how to set it?15:13
jiltdilHOw to upgrade falsh in 64bit ubuntu 11.0515:13
jiltdil*11.0415:13
Teh_Lemonyou meant 11.0415:13
Teh_LemonxD15:13
ikoniarabbi1: why are you trying to login as root ?15:13
necopostHello, Suspend mode wont work for me on Ubuntu 11.0415:13
rabbi1ikonia: ok, let me chuck everything... I had 9.10 installed but crashed. grub is not loading, so what next ?15:14
ikoniarabbi1: your machine has a hardware problem.......15:14
jiltdil<Teh_Lemon>yes15:14
rabbi1ikonia: apart from the CDROM?15:15
ikoniarabbi1: it's not just the cdrom,15:15
ikoniarabbi1: your hard disk is refusing to boot.15:15
rabbi1ikonia: how do i know that, if you could please tell?15:15
ikoniarabbi1: how do you know what ?15:16
Teh_Lemonhm...15:16
Teh_Lemoni dont see that option15:16
Teh_Lemonto ask for root password when creating a new temp password... only to ask someone to create a new one15:16
rabbi1ikonia: how can i know that my HDD is refusing?15:16
stercor_How do I get rid of a <defunct> process?15:16
Nom-Hi All.  I'm doing a tech refresh on a large email deployment, and looking for some tools to automate server deployment and configuration... any thoughts on where I could start?15:16
ikoniarabbi1: you told me your machine crashed randomly while using it, your machine now refuses to boot, and there are devices missing from the bios15:17
llutz_stercor_: wait or kill its parent (be carefull)15:17
stercor_llutz_: How do I determine its parent?15:17
rabbi1ikonia: that's just CDROM, that could be problem with that , not other hardware, bios is detecting USB and HDD15:17
llutz_stercor_: pstree15:17
stercor_llutz_: Thanks!15:18
rabbi1ikonia: i am able to boot ubuntu live from the USB15:18
ikoniarabbi1: why did your machine crash and your hard disk fail to boot15:18
Teh_Lemoni dont see that option15:19
Teh_Lemonto ask for root password when creating a new temp password... only to ask someone to create a new one15:19
Teh_Lemonplease advise...15:19
Teh_Lemonmaybe to lock account every 12h?15:19
PetskullHey guys!15:19
rumpe1Teh_Lemon, search for "-x"15:19
rumpe1Teh_Lemon, in man passwd15:19
Wiz_KeeDcan anyone please tell me how i can copy the whole contents of a file edited with nano from the terminal?15:20
H0pihi15:20
H0pican someone help me configure a proxy?15:20
rumpe1Teh_Lemon, do you want to configure some kind of "guest" account?15:20
LaWUWhat is the best programming application to use on Ubuntu, for someone who wants to learn programming?15:20
ikoniaLaWU: depends on the language you want to learn15:20
H0pii put the ip address and the port in the proxy switcher but doenst work15:20
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rumpe1LaWU, there is no "best" one...15:20
Nom-Basically I'm looking for a way to have a zero touch server build, where I power something on and X minutes later it's got the OS installed, configured and ready to serve client load as whatever server type i've designated it.  Someone must have put some doco into the wiki, I just can't find it :)15:21
jpmhLaWU:  perl15:21
Teh_Lemonhm...15:21
Teh_Lemonnot guess15:21
Teh_Lemonguest15:21
Teh_Lemonmy own account15:21
Teh_Lemoni dont want multiple accounts15:21
FloodBot1Teh_Lemon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:21
Teh_Lemoni want it to lock itself every 12h. i have some personal problems that require such option15:21
arfbtwnhi there, has anyone got any experience running latest banshee (from git) on ubuntu natty? I know there's a daily ppa but I was planning on trying to write extensions.15:21
PetskullHey- I'm about to resize my win7 partition so I can install Natty on my Vaio-  is there a way to do it without the recovery CD?15:21
llutz_Teh_Lemon: make a cron-job shutting down your machine every 12 hrs15:22
Petskull'cause I'm sorta in Afghanistan atm15:22
Teh_Lemonhm... no shutdown15:22
ikoniaPetskull: no, you can't be using the disk while you're resizing it15:22
MyWayI can't find mouse speed in mouse settings.. how to set it?15:22
Petskullum... what?15:22
ikoniaPetskull: so you need to boot from somewhere else15:22
Teh_Lemonif its already on, dont do anything15:22
PetskullI mean after I resize the ntfs partition15:22
Teh_Lemonor just lock computer and ask for ... 'higher power' to open it15:22
Teh_Lemonunlock it*15:22
ikoniaPetskull: to resize a disk, you need to not be using the disk, so thats why you need to boot from a mediau15:22
ikoniaPetskull: sorry, am I miss-understanding. What is your question.15:23
Petskullok ok, I'm on an ubuntu livecd right now15:23
ikoniaPetskull: ok15:23
LaWU@ikonia, rumpel & jpmh: Thanks for the answers. Well like I stated, I'm looking for something to learn programming on, so ofcourse, it should be easy to use, and it should have some form support/ guids online for new programmers. As for the language, I got no clue - suggestions?15:23
PetskullI need to resize my ntfs partiton with gparted to make space for the ubuntu install15:23
rumpe1Teh_Lemon, i can't think of any scenario in which this would make any sense15:23
llutz_Petskull: win7 can resize partitions, no need for a cd15:23
h000pi<H0pi> hi15:24
h000pi<H0pi> can someone help me configure a proxy?15:24
h000pi<H0pi> i put the ip address and the port in the proxy switcher but doenst work15:24
h000pi 15:24
PetskullI keep reading that this hoses win7 and I need the win recovery CD to fix it15:24
FloodBot1h000pi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:24
h000pitr00l15:24
Petskullthat cd is kinda not an option for me15:24
ikoniaPetskull: is windows broke ?15:24
ikoniaPetskull: it shouldn't break it15:24
mk1342Petskull: rezising the partition with gparted won't break windows15:24
Teh_Lemon2 users using computer. one is overusing, and he needs to be controled. without making 2 accounts.15:24
Petskullso I ask you, what other options do I have?15:24
MAREK_BENC_NetBPetskull: What do you mean?15:25
ikoniaPetskull: ask long as you've run all the precautions before hand (defrag, chkdisk, etc) you should be fine15:25
Petskullum.. I remember I had to do backflips on WinVista because is made it hard on purpose15:25
llutz_Teh_Lemon: theres hardly a technical solution for social problems15:25
rumpe1LaWU, There are tutorials/howtos for every known language on the web. But if you want to learn ubuntu/linux/etc., why not start with a shell (like bash) and start with little scripts? Maybe an backup-script?15:25
h000pisomeone?15:25
mk1342Petskull: however, installing ubuntu will overwrite the boot manager used by windows (but the boot manager used by ubuntu can also boot windows)15:25
h000pisomeone?15:25
h000piasdasdasdfasdfas15:25
FloodBot1h000pi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:25
Petskullyou sure win7 doesn't do the same thing?15:25
Petskullikonia, have you resized a Win7 partition?  did it work with no problem?15:26
Teh_Lemoni am teh ... 'god' one. so i want to limit computer that it self locks every 12h15:26
Teh_Lemonlol15:26
mbeierlTeh_Lemon: perhaps you could explain your request again?  I am not sure I understand what you would like done.  You want your password to expire every 12 hours ...15:26
ikoniaPetskull: yes, many times15:26
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MAREK_BENC_NetBPetskull: Me too, when i was a WinFAG15:27
Petskullalright, you seems like a trustworthy fellow in you tux and stuff15:27
rumpe1Teh_Lemon, then i would recommend you to look for some kind of advanced user-control15:27
ikoniaMAREK_BENC_NetB: that attitude is unaccepable, please stop it now15:27
Petskullthanks, MAREK_BENC_NetB15:27
dj_beiruthi.. i am running ubuntu and i can't make deluge-daemon run on startup. i have to run sudo deluged and sudo deluge-web to start it up every time. can anyone help? i am new to linux!15:27
MAREK_BENC_NetBunderstood15:27
mbeierlTeh_Lemon: oh, you don't actually want your password to change, you want the account to do something like lock the screen so that a password is required to access it again15:27
rabbi1ikonia: have no idea, i was using windows on virtual machine and openoffice writer that's it15:27
Petskulldo you know what I'm talking about resizing Win7?15:27
rubbsdj_beirut: http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/UserGuide/InitScript15:27
ikoniaPetskull: yes, and it's fine15:28
ikoniarabbi1: boot from a remote media, and see if you can mount the internal disk15:28
Petskullit had those 2 immovable blocks at the end of the partition SPECIFICALLY so you couldn't resize it?15:28
MAREK_BENC_NetBPetskull: Try to defrag?15:28
Petskullbecause there's a few links out here that say you need the windows recovery CD- like the HowToGeek15:29
rabbi1ikonia: tried last time, but now again i am on it. trying to boot from USB, but takes lot of time, with that "DRDY ERR, and ABRT error " this runs continuously, takes heavy time to boot from USB15:29
PetskullMAREK_BENC_NetB, yeah, that's what I'm thinking15:29
mk1342Petskull: you don't need the windows CD, just resize using GParted and you should be fine15:29
ikoniarabbi1: it sounds like you have a hardware error.......again15:29
auronandacePetskull: just use gparted15:29
Petskullalright- game on.  Thanks, guys!15:30
rumpe1Teh_Lemon, maybe this could be useful for you: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/03/parental-control-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/15:30
rabbi1ikonia: ok, i think this time if i get ubuntu Desktop, will just take a backup of "File System" to EHDD15:30
rabbi1ikonia: will try once to restore grub.. last time when i typed "grub" it said "no grub installed".15:31
PetskullDid I mention Unity doesn't come up on this LiveCD?  I think my video drivers are crap here15:31
KMNsadfacembeierl: you still here?15:31
dj_beirutrubbs i have already done that.. but i can't run "sudo /etc/init.d/deluge-daemon start / stop"15:32
Petskull01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 0df0 (rev a1)15:32
Petskull   <---- Great.15:32
bhaveshNetbeans installer fails on Ubuntu 10.10 Linux, it says Can't Initialize UI when I do sh ./Path/To/Netbeans_setup.sh15:32
bhaveshso how am I supposed to install netbeans 7.1?15:33
Jcook_5xDataany one here use a E350 processor/GPU?15:33
KMNsadfacehello, i had a user in here earlier telling me it would be a better idea to backup my partition before i attempt to recover it, i just installed my spare hardrive - how do i COPY it and place it on my spare HD?15:33
compdocJcook_5xData, I was looking for a fast, low power system to record security cam footage, and the E350 was one I looked at. But I didnt get it15:34
PetskullRecommendations on a 300Gb "data" partition to be read from both Ubuntu and Windows?15:35
PetskullNTFS?15:35
mk1342Petskull: most likely, yes15:35
Petskulltoo big for FAT32, I think15:35
Petskullyeah, I'll do that15:35
auronandacePetskull: you can use fat32 if you know for certain you won't be dealing with files over 4gb15:36
auronandacePetskull: but yeah, ntfs is the better choice15:36
ActionParsnipPetskull: ntfs15:36
PetskullHey, look!  Another Me!15:37
Petskullok, going to go defrag15:37
Petskull(the compu is new, like 3 days old)15:37
Petskull_bye, Petskull!!15:37
Goldlinehey guys its 9/22 wheres beta 2?15:38
Goldlineim looking at the website of ubuntu but i cant seem to find it15:38
auronandace!11.10 | Goldline15:38
ubottuGoldline: Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu.  Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646 Discussion and support in #ubuntu+115:38
PetskullI can't defrag the Win7 partition from ubuntu, can I?15:38
jpmhLaWU: one of the reasons I suggest perl is that there are so many beginners guides - things like lern perl in 30 days etc15:38
GoldlineYah i know but im refering to beta 2 as mentioned in the release scedule15:38
ActionParsnipPetskull: no, you'll need windows for that, or a 3rd party too on liveCD etc15:38
auronandacePetskull: not defrag, but you can chkdisk15:38
Goldlinewheres was the forumthread hold on15:38
Petskullyeah, I'll reboot- no biggy15:39
Petskullthanks a billion, guys15:39
ActionParsnipGoldline: its still oneiric, oneiric is discussed only in #ubuntu+115:39
ActionParsnipGoldline: until release day anyhoo15:39
dj_beiruthow can i check why a script is not running on startup??15:39
smftrehello guys, hopefully someone can help me, I have just installed Ubuntu Server and I cannot get the networking to work, basically I would like to enable the wireless card to connect to an access point. If I do iwconfig, it tells me wlan0 exists and not associated to access point.15:40
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Goldlinehere check thi forumthread clearly states 9/22 beta 215:40
Goldlinehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=174764715:40
h000pi<H0pi> hi15:40
h000pi<h000pi> <H0pi> can someone help me configure a proxy?15:40
h000pi<h000pi> <H0pi> i put the ip address and the port in the proxy switcher but doenst work15:40
bagelsI need help installing a program on a 64bit system, but the deb is 32-bit.  I have a tutorial I'm following and a pastebin.15:40
KMNsadfacehello, i had a user in here earlier telling me it would be a better idea to backup my partition before i attempt to recover it, i just installed my spare hardrive - how do i COPY it and place it on my spare HD?15:40
ActionParsnipdj_beirut: add commands in the script to output text to another file, you can then open the file and see what is in the output file (if anything)15:40
auronandaceGoldline: you've already been told you are in the wrong channel15:41
rubbsdj_beirut: have you checked whats in /var/log/syslog?15:41
dj_beirutActionParsnip can't i check it in logs?15:41
smftreI'm in the right channel, help me :D15:41
ToeKutterBought:  http://www.woot.com/15:41
AlecTaylorhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/62556/cant-use-mouse-hyper-v-with-ubuntu-server-11-0415:41
delacin Imagemagick, is it possible to set background color for deskew?15:41
nuclearwormhello , is there a similar program to namebench on ubuntu repositories?15:41
Jcook_5xDataKMNsadface, you base an ez thing would be clozezilla15:41
Jcook_5xDatabest15:41
smftreanyone know how to setup wireless card on ubuntuserver?15:42
KMNsadfaceJcook_5xData: cloze or clonezilla15:42
Jcook_5xDataKMNsadface, sorry clonezilla15:42
Jcook_5xData:)15:42
KMNsadfacehehe okay, thanks!15:43
auronandacesmftre: you could ask in #ubuntu-server they may be more helpful15:43
Jcook_5xDataKMNsadface, ? what are you looking to backup15:43
bagelsDoes anyone know anything about getlib?15:43
smftreauronandace: thanks15:43
auronandacenp15:43
Jcook_5xDataKMNsadface, just your home or the whole system with boot sec15:43
dj_beirutrubbs there is no reference to deluge-daemon in syslog15:44
wilsonhey15:44
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Guest35795buenas tardes15:44
Guest35795español15:44
ActionParsnipnuclearworm: there is the 'best source button in softwae centre15:44
Guest35795quien puede15:44
auronandace!es | Guest3579515:44
ubottuGuest35795: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.15:44
KMNsadfaceJcook_5xData: errm, i have 3 partitions Win7, Ubuntu and Backtrack5 R1 and im trying to recover my Win7.15:45
Jcook_5xDataKMNsadface, yea with all that clonezilla15:45
rubbsdj_beirut: did you make changes to the init.d script? You need to change the username it runs as.15:45
KMNsadfaceJcook_5xData: what would you suggest? just backup my win7?15:46
MonkeyDustanyone who has heard of and knows a solution for the kworker bug? http://askubuntu.com/questions/33640/kworker-what-is-it-and-why-is-it-hogging-so-much-cpu15:46
dj_beirutrubbs i said that it is supposed to run as deluge user...15:46
nuclearwormActionParsnip , (best source button) can t find it...15:46
bhaveshanyone uses Netbeans 7.1 ?15:47
Jcook_5xDataKMNsadface, will win7 boot or no?15:47
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rubbsdj_beirut: did you create a deluge user? you have to make sure there's a user first. Also according to that page you could see if there is a log at: /var/log/deluge/daemon15:47
KMNsadfaceJcook_5xData: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/91753173.png/15:48
ActionParsnipnuclearworm: I thought it was in software centre, have a sniff around, it may be in the software sources bit where you can change server. Not used software centre for ages now15:48
KMNsadfaceJcook_5xData: Sda2 comes up "Unknown" under file system15:48
dj_beirutrubbs yes the user is created15:48
dj_beirutrubbs [ERROR   ] 17:35:13 configmanager:76 Unable to make config directory: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/deluge'15:49
mbeierlKMNsadface: back now too.  the quickest way of getting this data off the partition and into a file that we can play with is to use "dd".  Do you have the new hard drive formatted and mounted?15:49
rubbsdj_beirut: I'd make sure the user can write to that directory15:50
dj_beirutthat i get in /var/log/deluge-web15:50
rubbsdj_beirut: http://apocryph.org/2008/11/30/setting_deluge_headless_ubuntu_seedbox_windows_client/ is what that wiki page was based off of15:50
KMNsadfacembeierl: im currently making room on the hardrive partitioning it so we have 300gb to play with while my win7 is only 232gb15:50
rubbsdj_beirut: note: I've never done this, I just knew what to search for. You may have to do some googling on how to do init scripts for deluge.15:51
rabbi1is there a antivirus for ubuntu that can remove windows viruses ?15:51
Jcook_5xDataKMNsadface, If i were you yes a clone the whole thing. when you recover win7 you will need to reinstall grab or your our OSes will not boot15:51
lc_minh???15:51
Jcook_5xDatagrub*15:51
KMNsadfacembeierl: do you think it would be best to use Gparted or just boot into win7 on my other hardrive and use the partition manager there.15:51
mk1342rabbi1: clamAV?15:51
bagelsI need help installing a program on a 64bit system, but the deb is 32-bit.  I have a tutorial I'm following and a pastebin. I'm using Getlib.  Can anyone help me troubleshoot?15:51
rabbi1mk1342: what?15:51
dj_beirutrubbs when i run  sudo -u deluge /etc/init.d/deluge-daemon i get this error15:52
dj_beirutstart-stop-daemon: unable to open pidfile '/var/run/deluged.pid' for writing (Permission denied)15:52
Jcook_5xDataKMNsadface, and no tell win7 may mess with stuff15:52
nuclearwormActionParsnip , will web browsing be affected with ubuntu software center server choice?15:52
mk1342rabbi1: ClamAV is a decent ntivirus15:52
rabbi1damAV can remove windows viruses?15:52
mk1342rabbi1: *antivirus15:52
rubbsdj_beirut: you need to make sure the deluge user can write in the /var/run directory15:52
ActionParsnipnuclearworm: no, only package downloads15:52
mk1342rabbi1: I believe so15:52
dj_beirutrubbs how do i do that?15:52
ActionParsnipnuclearworm: you can install a local DNS which can make the web faster15:53
rubbsdj_beirut: one sec.15:53
rubbs!permissions | dj_beirut15:53
ubottudj_beirut: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions15:53
rubbsthat might help.15:53
KMNsadfaceJcook_5xData:, mbeierl okay.. maybe i should just grab what i need off of my win7 on my spare hardrive and place it in my backtrack and then clone the entire hardrive...?15:53
rabbi1mk1342: good man, thanks15:54
rabbi1coz this usb drives are like pros, they just get fkd everywhere15:55
DeltaEpsilonhow do I launch gnome-terminal with my home dir as working dir?15:55
auronandaceDeltaEpsilon: it defaults to your home directory15:56
dimosDeltaEpsilon, if i undestand you this command is that you want:  gnome-terminal15:56
DeltaEpsilonauronandace, it is not when I use it with a keyboard shortcut15:57
SIFTU DeltaEpsilon there are plenty of ways, but you could put "cd ~" at the end of your .bashrc15:57
dimosDeltaEpsilon, Try with: Ctrl+Alt+T15:57
KMNsadfaceoff topic but - just got one of these for free lol http://www.trademe.co.nz/Computers/Networking-modems/Hubs-switches/auction-405388876.htm15:57
DeltaEpsilonthanks dimos15:58
dimos:)15:58
DeltaEpsilon!encryption15:58
ubottuFor information on setting up encrypted private directories (8.10+) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory15:58
Jcook_5xDataDeltaEpsilon, sudo aptitude install nautilus-open-terminal   it will put a menu option on right click to open term here15:59
DeltaEpsilonhow do I encrypt my whole partition (/) and I need it to ask me a password before it boots up15:59
M^jseongtae76Hello, everyone15:59
M^jseongtae76My Apache2 is have problem16:00
dimosDeltaEpsilon, "chown" is better solve...16:00
jpdsM^jseongtae76: You probably want #ubuntu-server16:00
M^jseongtae76I change DocumentRoot to my other hard disk16:00
nyuszika7h!gpg16:01
ubottugpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts16:01
DeltaEpsilondimos, I need to encrypt my data16:01
M^jseongtae76jpds,thanks16:01
SIFTUDeltaEpsilon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemOnIntrepid16:02
bashpeope i need16:02
bashhelp16:02
dimosDeltaEpsilon, This helps? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory16:03
bashmy file menu is opening and closing16:03
bashblinking16:03
DeltaEpsilondimos, nope. I want to encrypt my / partition. I don't have a home partition16:04
SIFTUDeltaEpsilon: did you see the link I posted16:04
DeltaEpsilonSIFTU, can I encrypt a partition such as / that is in use?16:05
dimosDeltaEpsilon, sorry...16:05
SIFTUDeltaEpsilon: you can encrypt it in use.. you will have to copy it over to the encrypted partitions16:05
SIFTUDeltaEpsilon: sorry CANT16:05
DeltaEpsilonbitlcoker does this w/o any problem :-(16:06
apporcI am using ntfsundelete to recover some files on my ntfs partition .and there are some questions i need to ask here. Who is familiar with that?16:06
apporcI don't know how to use the -P option of ntfsundelete. Because whatever i do it says wrong usage.16:08
SIFTUDeltaEpsilon: luks works fine16:08
DeltaEpsilondoes this work even if I don't have a /home partition? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#16:08
burghow can i make ubuntu create Maildir also for every new user?16:09
maihsun/wc/16:09
bhaveshwhat is the bash command for saving the current file in gedit? n=$GEDIT_CURRENT_DOCUMENT_NAME; now how do I save n?16:10
rumpe1bhavesh, saving the document from commandline, while gedit is running with the document?16:11
bhaveshyea16:11
bhaveshI'm editing a external tool to compile java to make it save the current document first16:12
SIFTUburg: you could try adding the dir to /etc/skel16:13
bhaveshrumpe1: nvm I found a option Save: below the external tools script.16:15
SIFTUbhavesh: you might need to use something like xautomate16:15
zenlinuxCan anyone tell me when Oneiric Beta2 is expected today?16:18
auronandace!11.10 | zenlinux16:18
ubottuzenlinux: Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu.  Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646 Discussion and support in #ubuntu+116:18
ActionParsnipzenlinux: ask in #ubuntu+1 please16:18
rumpe1bhavesh, i can't find anything in the man. Maybe you can compile a custom-version of gedit, that reacts to signals from command line.16:18
zenlinuxwill do, thanks16:18
kkulhavyburg, I would recommend to try it with the /etc/skel, because we tried to do something like this too and it didnt work16:20
kkulhavyWe assume because the program (KDE) stored some data which are user-specific16:21
kkulhavyand then the username stored in the file and the actual username mismatched when used in /etc/skel16:21
osseI installed a package with checkinstall but I assigned it a lower version number the package provided in the repos and so the update manager nags me all the time. How can I change the version number of a package "after the fact" ?16:21
genii-aroundosse: You might want to look into pinning instead16:24
genii-around!pinning | osse16:25
ubottuosse: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto16:25
Jcook_5xDataany one here use a AMD E350 processor/GPU laptop?16:26
InfoLocoHello, I'm looking for help. WICD ask me for a password at start.  Compiz doesn't start with XFce (the only way is reload windows manager), and I can't add shortcuts to AWn, 'cause I can't edit  start menu. I appreciate your help. Best Regards!16:27
ActionParsnipInfoLoco: if you set a blank password for the keyring it won't bother you for password16:28
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ossegenii-around, thanks. I used the Synaptic-approach and it works. Though next time I'll probably just give the package I create a bogus name or 999 as the version number :P16:30
jazonnis it possible to install to a virtual harddrive and boot entirely from that (natively not a vm)? kind of like windows and its native .vhd booting?16:31
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InfoLocoActionParsnip: nope, i have 116:32
ybrjkfctest16:32
InfoLocok16:34
rabbi1ikonia: i am now in the boot menu of USB. What option can i go with ?16:34
rabbi1run from USB and install to Hard Disk takes lots of lots of time to load16:34
InfoLocoActionParsnip: where in users settings?16:35
jodlajodlahello, which is the best editor program for php, html, css? thanks!16:35
rumpe1jodlajodla, vim16:36
ybrjkfcEnglish only?16:36
jodlajodlarumpel, for html5, css3, ...?16:36
dfcnvtHi, I'm having a problem with "System program problem detected" that kept on popping up. I did press "Report problem..." button and after I fill out the password and then it pop back right again three or four second later as if there is another problem. It keep doing that all the time.16:36
Pici!best | jodlajodla16:36
ubottujodlajodla: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.16:36
ybrjkfcjodlajodla gedit end nano16:36
XenethMore of a general Linux Question.  What would the best book to read for an overall understanding of the internal workings of linux?16:37
rabbi1Xeneth: bible16:37
dfcnvtHow do I prevent this?16:37
PiciXeneth: try ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic16:37
InfoLocousers privileges has the all privileges16:37
osserumpe1, I see what you did there16:38
Jazon-is it possible to install to a virtual harddrive and boot entirely from that (natively not a vm)? kind of like windows and its native .vhd booting?16:38
jodlajodlaubottu actually i just wanted to ask people which program they're using for the newest versions of HTML (5) and CSS (3)16:38
ubottujodlajodla: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:38
fazXeneth: advanced programming in the unix environment   http://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Programming-UNIX-Environment-2nd/dp/020143307916:38
XenethNo big, I was already here and thought I would ask.  Didn't think it would hurt since Ubuntu Is linux.  :)16:38
jodlajodlaubottu lol :D16:38
me-1hi..how to fsck as root from a live CD16:39
dfcnvtme-1: type fsck once you're on liveCD.16:40
dfcnvtAnd... there you go!16:40
me-1dfcnvt,  from terminal..?16:40
dfcnvt..Yes.16:40
16WAAFA0TJust installed 11.04, and now that I added compiz and ubuntu-tweak, my side bar... well actually everything disappeared.  Any suggestions?16:40
ActionParsnip16WAAFA0T: run:  unity --replace16:41
KMNsadfacembeierl:  okay back was partitioning the space; should i be backing up all 3 OS or just the win7?16:41
ActionParsnip16WAAFA0T: compiz is in a default install16:41
me-1Does VLC use properiatry  codecs..?16:42
ActionParsnipme-1: afaik, not by default16:42
ActionParsnipme-1: you can install them with ubuntu-restricted-extras16:43
ActionParsnipme-1: also install w32codecs (or w64codecs) from the medibuntu repos and you'll be able to play most stuff16:44
Jazon-is it possible to install to a virtual harddrive and boot entirely from that (natively not a vm)? kind of like windows and its native .vhd booting?  I was told its possible to install to boot from a .iso file, would it be possible to install to that or something similar and have it dynamically expand?16:44
me-1ActionParsnip,  but its not legal in my part of the world16:44
ActionParsnipJazon-: seems you can, scroll to 4.2.2 http://www.vmlite.com/appliances/linux-mint-9-readme.html16:45
ActionParsnipJazon-: I've never done it so you will have to play16:46
KMNsadfacembeierl: you here?16:47
ujjainHow can I troubleshoot why Ubuntu does not shut down? (It shows an image, I want the text, I searched logs)16:48
ujjainso I want to know what it's doing that causes it to not shut down.16:48
ujjainand how can I boot apache2 at boot/start?16:48
ujjainsudo update–rc.d apache2 defaults < could this be it?16:49
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Guest43460#ubuntu-es16:51
Guest43460Hi16:51
thingfishbeta 2 is supposed to be out today, right?16:51
Guest43460For go to Spanish Chat?16:51
bindiGuest43460: type /join #ubuntu-es16:52
Guest43460ok, thx bindi16:52
vakWhat tools could help to write data to a Blu Ray disk?16:53
soreauvak: Do you have a Blu Ray burner and disks?16:54
soreauId assume the hardware would be the most important item(s)..16:54
alkafooI can't imagine why you'd want to16:55
alkafooincredibly tedious, costly way to backup/transfer data16:55
alkafooand oh yeah governments want to make you a criminal for doing it =)16:55
eypalin case here is somebody from Canonical Ltd please could you give a private message for me. I do have something business stuff in my mind, a kind of checking up one thing one your website. Have been trying to email you but haven't gotten reply. Thank you so much.16:56
carli2hi. in which package is /usr/include/bits/predefs.h?16:57
apporcI found that the same file has two names from ntfsundelete .So what's the reason.16:57
CatKillerHi there! I have two Network Interfaces. One is configured as dhcp and the other one as static in /etc/network/interfaces. It all works pretty well except that every half an hour the DHCP client kicks in for *both* interfaces and updates the route and the IP address of the static iface. I have to ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 to reload its static address and route settings. Does anybody know why?16:57
glebihan!find /usr/include/bits/predefs.h | carli216:58
apporcIt just has filename(1) and filename(2). how to recover this ...16:58
ubottucarli2: File /usr/include/bits/predefs.h found in libc6-dev16:58
apporcCan anyone help?16:58
soreauglebihan: nice16:58
soreauI didnt know ubottu had that feature16:58
CatKillerI also have the "configure this interface automatically" tickbox unticked for both interfaces in preferences/network connections16:58
glebihansoreau, ubottu is so good ;)16:58
vaksoreau: YES16:59
angel56CatKiller: check if the static interface is also defined in /etc/network/interfaces. If so, comment it out16:59
soreauvak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning#Blu-Ray_Burning16:59
CatKillerangel56: It is defined, I defined it there.17:00
alkafoocarli2: check with apt-file17:00
angel56CatKiller: are you also using network mangler?17:00
CatKillerangel56: I hate the thing, I'm not using it17:00
vaksoreau: thx17:00
soreauvak: Seems like its the same as burning a regular image to disk.. look into k3b and wodim too17:00
CatKillerangel56: Just used it to untick these two boxes17:00
angel56CatKiller: ok....takes care of that problem17:00
CatKillertrying to find dhclient.conf17:01
CatKillerbut the manpage doesn't reference its location17:01
soreau!find dhclient.conf17:01
ubottuFile dhclient.conf found in dracut-network, ebox-network, isc-dhcp-client, isc-dhcp-common, synce-hal, wicd-daemon17:01
angel56CatKiller: /etc/dhcp17:01
chmrrI'm one of the upstream maintainers of https://launchpad.net/rt/ -- https://launchpad.net/rt/+packages shows that request-tracker3.8 packages list rt/4.0 as upstream, instead of rt/3.8  What's the right way to fix this on launchpad, as I don't seem to have rights to change them myself?17:01
burgif i use skel to create new folder, can i somehow also set permissions to that folder?17:01
CatKillerangel56: Thanksa  lot!17:01
soreauchmrr: Perhaps try #ubuntu-devel17:02
CatKillerangel56: No luck, everything is commented out there.17:02
KMDsadfaceclonezilla is good for cloning hardrives?17:02
CatKillerangel56: I don't mind using the network manager, but it won't tell me which interface is eth0 and which is eth1!17:03
angel56CatKiller: can't help you with nm...I hate it and long ago went to wicd17:03
alkafooKMDsadface: it'll do, but I'd just use dd17:03
glebihanchmrr, there's also a #launchpad channel17:03
KMDsadfacealkafoo: whats DD?17:03
ActionParsnipCatKiller: sudo lshw -C network     will17:03
CatKillerangel56: wicd? I'd have to try17:03
alkafooKMDsadface: of course, there's not much point cloning an entire drive unless it's a proprietary OS17:03
alkafooKMDsadface: man dd17:03
soreauCatKiller: Its probably NetworkManager being weird. I usually dont use it and do everything manually17:04
CatKillersoreau: I do everything manually but it interferes!17:04
angel56CatKiller: if you are comfortable with the config files, just take out nm and do the network manually17:04
CatKillerActionParsnip: did it, won't map the ethX interface to "Wired connection X" found in Network Manager17:04
CatKillerangel56: I didn't know I could get rid of this package17:04
soreauCatKiller: If you already have it setup manually, chmod -x $(which NetworkManager) and reboot to stop it from running altogether17:04
alkafoohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_%28Unix%29#Examples17:05
chmrrsoreau, glebihan: Thanks, I'll try #launchpad17:05
soreauCatKiller: Its in /usr/sbin/ IIRC17:05
alkafooKMDsadface: is it for a Windows install?17:05
CatKillersoreau: Arg, can't reboot this system however17:05
genii-aroundKMDsadface: Basically "DiscDupe" , you can use it to make an image file of an entire harddrive like: sudo dd if=/dev/<harddrive-designation-here> of=/outputfile/filename.img17:05
soreauCatKiller: Then just remove the executable bit and kill the process17:05
angel56CatKiller: you can do the chmod and then just kill the nm process17:05
KMDsadfacealkafoo: Win7,Ubuntu, Backtrack5 R117:05
CatKillersoreau: Although it must be a daemon running in the background17:05
CatKillersoreau: ok17:05
KMDsadfacealkafoo: im trying to repair my windows, yes.17:05
soreauCatKiller: sudo service network-manager stop17:06
soreauCatKiller: Should stop it for that session17:06
CatKillersoreau: did kill, it's gione now17:06
alkafooKMDsadface: repair?  What's broken?17:06
CatKillercool, I only need that for that sessions17:06
CatKillersoreau and angel and everybody else: Thanks for your help!17:06
CatKillerWe'll see if that takes17:06
soreauCatKiller: no problem17:06
KMDsadfacealkafoo: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/91753173.png/17:06
CatKillerit's already faster!17:07
KMDsadfacealkafoo: sda2 is reading as Unknown17:07
alkafooKMDsadface: from Linux?17:07
CatKilleroops17:07
CT1Hi.  Where does fuse mount things? I've used the GUI to mount a windows share, I can see it on the desktop and use it fine, I need to know where the mount point is to use in command line interface.17:08
KMDsadfacealkafoo: i cant even boot into win7, the mbr is screwed up aswell.17:08
alkafooKMDsadface: hrmmm17:08
angel56CT1: usually in /media17:08
alkafooCT1: not just fuse, but auto-mounts in general17:08
alkafooCT1: 'mount' will tell you17:09
KMDsadfacealkafoo: i was told i should back up my hardrive before i continue, which is very important because i need my data and cant afford to lose it.17:09
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CatKillereven killing the NM didn't do. It had to be killed with the command above!17:09
CatKillernasty thing this Network Manager17:09
alkafooKMDsadface: well backups are good, but unless you suspect the hardware is failing, you could probably just proceed to the fixing part17:09
CatKillerIt's to be avoided!17:09
KMDsadfacegenii-around: would dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb be correct?17:09
angel56CatKiller: which is probably why so many of us have left it behind17:09
alkafooKMDsadface: for which I'd suggest consulting ##windows17:09
CatKillerangel56: I understand now. I kept thinking update after update that it would get better17:10
ikoniaCatKiller: network manager is one of the best things about the gnome desktop, what's the issue with it ?17:10
soreauCatKiller: Thats why I said to remove the executable bit first.. if its killed, it will just restart itself17:10
KMDsadfacealkafoo: yeah, i rather make 100% sure i have my stuff; id feel more safe.17:10
alkafooKMDsadface: better of=some/path/to/a/file.ddimg17:10
CT1gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/me/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=me)17:10
KMDsadfacegenii-around: would dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb be correct?17:10
angel56CatKiller: it's called sns17:10
alkafooKMDsadface: fair enough =)17:10
soreauCatKiller: But that means it wont run ever again until you set the bit back17:10
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KMDsadfacealkafoo: uhm, no idea what that means lol17:10
alkafooKMDsadface: might check out http://mark.koli.ch/2009/05/howto-whole-disk-backups-with-dd-gzip-and-p7zip.html17:10
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alkafooKMDsadface: you don't have to copy it over another entire disk, you can output to a file17:10
alkafooof=/home/kmdsadface/olddiskbroken.img17:11
alkafoojust make sure you have teh space17:11
alkafooand the space17:11
genii-aroundKMDsadface: If you want to make an exact copy of sda onto sdb then yes. Be careful that sdb is same-size or larger. Also they will end up with same UUID after which is not so good if you plan to use them both in same system at same time.17:11
gnaddelQuestion: What is the reason to use UUIDs instead to /dev/???? in the fstab?17:11
alkafoognaddel: it's slightly more specific, matching filesystems, not hardware17:11
aeon-ltdgenii-around: uuids don't change17:11
alkafoognaddel: I don't personally see the reason17:12
angel56gnaddel: it allows the system to use the same name for the same hard drive. If you have six usb drives, you can identify each by name17:12
CatKillerangel56: But it seems to be getting worse!17:12
CatKillerangel56: There was more configuration options with it before than there is now!17:12
aeon-ltdgnaddel: uuids don't change17:12
aeon-ltdgenii-around: sorry about the message, my bad :(17:12
genii-aroundaeon-ltd: I think thats what I just stated. If you dd sda to sdb then it will be identical, including the UUID17:12
alkafooit's the boring computer version of FS labels, which you can set to anything like 'weeepurpledrive'17:12
angel56CatKiller: that is supposed to be an 'ubuntu improvement'17:12
genii-aroundaeon-ltd: Ah, no worries17:12
alkafoowell it will be identical, that's all you have to say17:12
angel56CatKiller: probably why some of us are moving to debian, or something else17:13
KMDsadfacegenii-around: yes, i want to make an exact copy, the other hardrive is exactly the same size; so what can i do to prevent UUID.17:13
alkafooKMDsadface: you don't have to worry about UUIDs17:13
gnaddelRelated question: Why does my system still boot even though I have listed a wrong UUID in the fstab? (I moved my install to a larger hdd and didn't edit the fstab)17:13
alkafooKMDsadface: and again, I suggest not copying to the other drive unless you mean to use _that_ drive regardless of whether you can fix the other17:13
CT1alkafoo: Thanks. I was looking in /media "mount" told me it was in ~/.gvfs/xxx.  Are you paid for your work? You always seem to be online and in possession of all the answers.... an advanced A.I. bot perhaps?  Keep it up and thanks again!17:13
CatKillerangel56: Yes, there has been disapointments with Ubuntu lately. I mean it didn't improve much, and now the move to Unity and stuff. This is a bit much.17:13
alkafooKMDsadface: just of=/home/foo/somefile.img17:14
alkafooCT1: does eye strain count?17:14
KMDsadfacealkafoo: i have no idea what that means17:14
alkafooKMDsadface: okay of= is for the output path17:14
genii-aroundKMDsadface: Is the filesystem ext2/3/4 or something else?17:14
KMDsadfacealkafoo: i just want to make backup on a hardrive then attempt to repair one so it doesnt screw up and lose everything17:14
alkafooKMDsadface: you're copying from /dev/sda (if=/dev/sda, input file)17:14
alkafooKMDsadface: right17:15
KMDsadfaceright17:15
alkafooKMDsadface: so dd if=/dev/foo of=/home/example/directory/path/anyfilenameyouwant.img17:15
alkafooit's not worth cloning _over_ another disk, it's much saner to store as a simple file17:15
alkafooand heads up it'll probably take several hours unless the disk is quite minute17:16
KMDsadfacewell now im just confused as SH**17:17
ikoniaKMDsadface: if you have to star out a word, don't use it please.17:17
KMDsadfacealkafoo: i just want to repair my windows without worrying about losing the data that's all.17:17
soreauKMDsadface: FWIW, of means output file and if means input file17:18
alkafooKMDsadface: I know, I know17:18
alkafooKMDsadface: what part are you confused about?17:18
soreauIn the context of dd17:18
KMDsadfacealkafoo: i understand the if/of, but you're saying its not worth cloning the entire disk?; is it possible if i try to repair my win7 that it can ruin my other partitions aswell?17:19
soreauand FWIW means For What Its Worth ;)17:19
alkafooKMDsadface: no I'm saying it's not worth copying one disk's data _over_ another disk's17:20
alkafooKMDsadface: instead you should copy one disk's data _to a file_17:20
alkafooit's the difference between [A] -> [B] and [A] -> [B]/somefile.img17:20
alkafooin this situation, anyways, there are times when it's a decent enough enterprise17:21
KMDsadfacealkafoo: yeah im not really comfortable in following that 10step thing from that website, i already tried following a guide earlier and i believe thats what damaged it even more.17:23
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* alkafoo shrugs17:24
alkafoowhat is it you think you did that damaged it more?17:24
yaccWondering, anyone got an idea why a SATA3 SSD is switched into SATA1 mode by the kernel, while it keeps 3 normal hdds on the same SATA controller in SATA2 mode?17:24
KMDsadfacembeierl: you still here?17:24
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t60guyHello, I had a question. I bought a refurbished T60 laptop a few weeks ago, got it and put ubuntu 10.04 on it. I used Gnome for quite a while, and then switched to awesome wm and started using wicd for network management (wireless). Everything worked perfectly for a few weeks, until a few days ago. I woke up and found that I couldn't connect to my home network, I could see it and a few other networks nearby, and I could begin 17:25
grendal-primei need to take an image and add highlighter marks on it..17:25
KMDsadfacealkafoo: honestly no idea, its been like 2 weeks since i attempted it.17:25
grendal-primeam i going full gimp for that?17:25
ActionParsnipyacc: I'd reboot then read through:  dmesg | less    to see what's going on17:25
KMDsadfacealkafoo: it first started i think when i removed WinXP when i had Win7 and Ubuntu on a tri-boot, the mbr wasn't allowing me to load up into win7 so i got ticked off and tried to find it out then between that and something else the file ended up being uknown and i ended up installing backtrack5 R1 aswell.17:27
KMDsadfacealkafoo: so somewhere between that jungle of mess something happend.17:28
asphow to connect to wireless connection with channel 13 , because UBUNTU default can connect to 1-11 channels17:28
nicofsHow can I burn a VCD? It's quite urgent and brasero crashes converting the files (apart from that i can't choose between VCD and DVD - it's all just "video disc")...17:29
alkafooKMDsadface: I guess what you'd hope for is that you merely confused the partition table17:29
alkafoonicofs: urgent?17:29
nicofsalkafoo, i need the vcd more or less yesterday17:30
KMDsadfacealkafoo: okay so... what should i do? lol17:30
alkafoonicofs: http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/HOWTO_Create_a_VCD_or_SVCD#Create_an_SVCD should still work17:30
alkafoonicofs: but I'd use a USB stick =P17:30
alkafooKMDsadface: talk to ##windows or ##linux about fixing your partition table/determining if it can be fixed17:31
Picinicofs: I believe  devede has that capability.17:31
alkafoowould've been easier had you remembered what you did in the first place17:31
KMDsadfacekk17:31
nicofsPici, supposedly so has brasero - but it crashes.... :-(17:32
tbruff13hello can someone help me17:32
TheMatrix3000Any issues that I should prepare for if I did an LVM on top a Software RAID configuration in Ubuntu17:33
alkafootbruff13: ...with?17:34
tbruff13get me a few minutes17:34
nicofsalkafoo, to be honest, i'm not too thrilled about creating a vcd via cli...17:34
asphow to connect to wireless connection with channel 13 , because UBUNTU default can connect to 1-11 channels17:34
ActionParsnipnicofs: try xfburn :)17:34
alkafoonicofs: at least you know what is going on and get an error if it fails17:34
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mbeierlKMDsadface: sorry - back now... just reading the scroll back to see what has gone on...17:35
alkafoonot that it should fail, no complicated GUI to trip over17:35
InfoLocoGreetings!! Somebody help me with this -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11275724#post11275724 I appreciate17:35
nicofsActionParsnip, xfburn does not have a vcd option17:35
mbeierlKMDsadface: so what I was thinking was to back up sda2 only as it's the one that is having the problem.  it's done via dd as follows: "dd if=/dev/sda2 of=partition_2.dat" or whatever you want to call the partition_2.dat file...17:36
alkafoonicofs: it's three commands man =P17:37
alkafooI guess you could try VCD, but do you really want to learn a new GUI when you needed something yesterday and you're only three commands away from having it?17:37
alkafoocould try tovid*17:37
jstewtrying to change the default browser that thunderbird uses to open a web page. my default browser in System->Preferences->Preferred Applications is set to Chrome, but tbird keeps opening up pages in Firefox...17:37
jstewi'm on ubuntu 11.0417:38
alkafoojstew: why do you even have two browsers installed17:38
nicofsalkafoo, basically it's that i expect ubuntu to be able to do that without issues... burning a vcd should work out of the box...17:39
SIFTUjstew: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Setting_Your_Default_Browser#Setting_the_browser_that_opens_in_Thunderbird_-_Linux17:39
shanttuHi. Is there a workaround to get gsm-network/ mobile broadband connection to show on gnome network-manager? Running Natty17:39
jstewalkafoo: for testing in multiple browsers17:39
jstewSIFTU: thx17:39
Ocean66Hi. Could someone give me directions on how to implement a bug fix that has been released (here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/779798), please? I am a noob and have no idea at where to even find the fix itself. I am running Natty.17:39
ubottuUbuntu bug 779798 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Report Builder does not open" [Undecided,Fix released]17:39
alkafoonicofs: transcoding, imaging, and burning for video media is an incredibly complex process on any OS17:39
alkafoonicofs: that's why I suggest copying to a USB stick, it's simple17:39
nicofsalkafoo, yes, i know - but if a program offers the option "burn vcd" that option should work. and i can't put a usb stick into the old-fashioned vcd player17:40
alkafooI agree it should work, but you aren't going to get anywhere saying that =P17:41
nicofsalkafoo, no, but i think i might file a bug or something as soon as my schedule is not as tight as now17:41
alkafooOcean66: 'This bug was fixed in the package libreoffice - 1:3.4.3-1ubuntu3' you want to get that version17:41
alkafoommhmmm17:42
Marshahello17:42
alkafooMarsha: hi17:42
Marshahru17:42
Ocean66alkafoo : so it will not automatically be included in the update packages the update manager gets? Sorry if my question is obvious and thanks for answering!17:43
alkafooyes, hru17:43
alkafooOcean66: it should be, I don't know if it has been _already_, but given that quoted statement, it exists _somewhere_17:43
alkafoomight check packages.ubuntu.com for it17:43
alkafooif you can't find it elsewhere17:43
Ocean66alkafoo : I tried updatding with the manager to no avail... how else can i get it?17:44
Ocean66OK just saw your added comment, will check, thanks !!!17:44
alkafooI just said17:44
alkafoo=)17:44
Loki_can anyone tell me how to prevent ubuntu 10.10 from loading X server and services wich are not necessary for tty? i want to speed up system boot and manually start the rest of the system like x-server and extra services if needed :)17:46
h00k!text | Loki_17:47
ubottuLoki_: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode17:47
hrobertsI need some help woth printing and cups17:47
hrobertsI am running ubuntu narwall, when I go into system administration printing17:47
Marsha!ops17:47
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, or rww!17:47
PiciMarsha: Yes?17:48
h00kMarsha: hrm?17:48
hrobertsi am told to connect, when I click connect it says unable to connect to server17:48
hrobertsHow can I fix this, I have done sudo apt-get remove cups and then install cups, same thing17:49
rootls17:49
Loki_h00k is starting the same tty's like when i press ctrl+alt+fx and most of the rest of the system? and can i use "startx" then to boot the rest?17:49
adi11hi all :) need help with ubuntu 11.04 on hp pavillion dv 7600. after fresh install from USB pendrive... after shoosing ubtunu on the grub screen, it freezes on a purple screen. hard shutdown button is all i can do. i can use a little help to identify the issue. thanks anyone17:50
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agraj@MAAAAD could be a graphics issue - try recovery mode and choose failsafe graphics17:50
h00k!rootirc | Guest1787817:51
ubottuGuest17878: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.17:51
h00kLoki_: sure17:51
h00kLoki_: check the documentation, it should help explain that, too17:51
adi11i am on 2.6.38.11 kenrel. this laptop have a nvidia card but i havent installed the proprietary driver. i guess its working on open soiurce driver17:52
Loki_h00k thanks alot, i was confused how to manage this because of the new annoying upstart -.-17:52
agrajwhen's 11.10b2 coming?17:52
adi11anyone...?17:53
hrobertscan someone help me with this, or point me to a channel that can17:53
h00kagraj: #ubuntu+1 for Oneiric support/discussion17:53
Piciagraj: When its done.  Feel free to wait in #ubuntu+117:53
ActionParsnipagraj: ask in #ubuntu+1 please17:53
chotazHEy everyone, I installed Ubuntu 11.04 over winblows 7 on this machines, but whenever I try to boot the pc, I get a grub rescue console, is there a way to fix this via Live CD_17:53
agrajok, thanks17:53
ActionParsnipadi11: use the additional drivers app17:53
ActionParsnipadi11: I suggest you get fully updated first then reboot17:53
alkafoochotaz: it says 'rescue console'?17:53
adi11i did.17:54
stercorIs there a way to make a beep sound?  I installed beep from Synaptic.  It doesn't work.17:54
hrobertscan someone help me with this, or point me to a channel that can17:54
adi11ActionParsnip : i have fully updated the sys17:54
Marshahow can i help you my friend17:54
hrobertscan someone help me with this issue concerning cups, or point me to a channel that can17:54
alkafoohroberts: with what17:54
chotazhas an error message I can-t recall right now(just got back from work and booted live CD) and then 'grub rescue>', alkafoo17:54
bekorhave a question for someone17:54
hrobertscups keeps telling me that it cant connect ot itself, how can I completely reset it17:55
ActionParsnipadi11: ok then use the additional drivers app17:55
h00kbekor: go ahead and ask it to the channel17:55
alkafoochotaz: error messages are usually useful to know...17:55
adi11ActionParsnip : the only way i managed to log in is to choose system recovery on grub screen17:55
sharehow can I invert an image on Ubuntu17:55
chotazalkafoo, is something amongst the lines 'coulnt find boot file' or 'boot file corrupted'17:55
shareor reverse I want to rotate  it17:56
alkafooshare: install imagemagick, mogrify -flip image17:56
alkafooshare: ...do what?17:56
bekorok i  just installed windows xp and trying to install ubuntu along side of but it says that i do not have an operarting system on my computer,weird to me. any suggestions?17:56
adi11after some output on black screen i see a lot of "ata problems" than i give a EXIT command it logs into full GUI17:56
alkafoobekor: what says?17:56
adi11ActionParsnip : i cant figured out if this is a nvidia issue or a hdd isue17:57
bekorit says your computer does not seem to have a operating system on it ,but it does17:57
sharealkafoo: i dont want to do that17:57
alkafoobekor: ..._what_ says?17:57
sharealkafoo: I want to reverse image17:57
sharechange left side to the right17:57
bekorwhat do you mean17:57
alkafoobekor: the BIOS?17:58
alkafoobekor: when you boot up?17:58
alkafooshare: mogrify -flop image17:58
bekoryou mean when i try to install?17:58
bonbon_Bonjour !17:58
alkafoobekor: if you can't boot Windows XP, it wasn't installed right, try again17:58
ActionParsnipadi11: add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1    may help17:58
alkafoobonbon_: hi17:58
fireprintHey guys.17:58
alkafoohey17:58
bekorbut windows xp boots up fine17:58
alkafoobekor: okay, so what doesn't boot up fine?17:59
adi11ActionParsnip : can you tell me how to do this?17:59
sharealkafoo: thank you!17:59
chotazalkafoo, should I restart and take a look at the message again?17:59
kilraeAny news on when Beta 2 is out?17:59
bekori ca n not install ubuntu next to it because it does not see it17:59
h00kkilrae: #ubuntu+1 for Oneiric discussion.17:59
kilraeh00k: np, thanks18:00
hrobertsso no one can help with a cups issue?18:00
jimbozoneHi, can someone please help me get my lcd monitor running at its native resolution?  I used to have it at 1600x1200 (native).  Then went to dual-screen (had to reduce to 2nd monitor's resolution) now I've removed the 2nd monitor and am back to 1.  But in Monitor Preferences the native resolution of 1600x1200 is not in the list.18:00
bonbon_someone speaks French please18:00
bonbon_,18:00
bonbon_?18:00
h00k!fr | bonbon_18:00
ubottubonbon_: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.18:00
alkafoobekor: it sees XP but not Ubuntu?18:00
alkafoobonbon_: and more generally: /msg alis list *fr18:00
bonbon_thanks18:00
fireprintHave been away from *nix for.. well lets just say a long time. And wow, i am LOVING ubuntu. ended up installing it on three computers including my main laptop. This is weird how awesome it is...18:00
fireprintJust felt like sharing. hehe18:00
alkafoofireprint: =P18:00
Marshafireprint, nobody cares18:01
fireprintI know!.. but atleast i got to share. THAT was my goal.18:01
bekorno it does not see xp when i go to install it says your computer does not seem do have a operating system on it.do you want to install ubuntu?18:01
ActionParsnip!nomodeset | adi11 just change the option to nouveau.blacklist=118:01
ubottuadi11 just change the option to nouveau.blacklist=1: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter18:01
pimphow to connect to wireless with channel 13 ?18:01
hrobertsso no one can help with a cups issue?, or point me to a channel that can help, I have tried ##cups but no one answers there18:02
alkafoobekor: like I said, if you install Windows XP and Windows XP won't boot up, it wasn't installed right18:02
Marshaare cups for drinking18:02
hrobertsMarsha: very funny18:02
chotazalkafoo, should I restart and check the error, or is there a way to know it from live cd?18:02
hrobertsCUPS18:02
bekorwell it does boot up and works fine18:02
MarshaLOL GET IT18:02
alkafoochotaz: dunno, errors are useful18:02
alkafoobekor: you just said it doesn't, make up your mind18:03
adi11ActionParsnip : thanks for your advise. can you giude me a little ho to do this? thank you again.18:03
chotazalkafoo, brb then.18:03
jimbozoneanyone able to help with my monitor resolution problem?18:03
alkafoojimbozone: which problem?18:03
jimbozoneI can't get 1600x1200 in the Resolution list18:03
jimbozonethat's the native res of my monitor18:04
mbeierlHey!  speaking of monitor preferences ... does anyone know how to add a custom monitor size to the list?  I'd like to be able to set a resolution of 1366x76818:04
alkafoojimbozone: what graphics driver are you using?18:04
jimbozoneI have a radeon hd card18:04
alkafoombeierl: xrandr doesn't list it?18:04
alkafoojimbozone: and what driver are you using? lspci -k | less18:04
jimbozonefglrx_pci18:05
mbeierlalkafoo: nope.  it just gives me the native 1920x1080, then 1280x1024, 1152x864, 1024x768 and lower.18:05
leepingHi there, does it make sense for me to use classes whenever I need a struct?  For some reason it feels like I'm using a very general tool to accomplish a very small task18:05
angel56leeping: sounds more like a #C question18:06
leepingangel56, ah i thought i was in #python.  so sorry. :)18:06
mbeierlalkafoo: I'd like to insert the custom 1366x768 into the list so that when I connect remotely (via nxclient on a shadow session) I can set the monitor resolution to match the remote machine without scaling18:06
* alkafoo forgets if xrandr -s RANDOMxFOO works18:06
pimp how to connect to wireless with channel 13  ? because UBUNTU allow just from 1-11 channel by default18:06
alkafoombeierl: check if you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf18:07
jimbozonealkafoo:  xrandr -s 1600x120018:07
jimbozoneSize 1600x1200 not found in available modes18:07
Psycho_Squid#pimp is that really true?18:07
pimpyes18:07
Psycho_Squidweird :(18:07
sammyI'm running ubuntu on a chromebook, so I'm using the chromeos' linux kernel. I'm noticing the kernel version I'm using doesn't match the installed linux-libc-dev version, but there isn't a package available to install for a version that far back (2.6.28.3+). so I probably shouldn't be building anything that uses the kernel header files, right? I mean its only slightly minor versins but...18:08
angel56pimp:channels above 11 are international, not US18:08
mbeierlalkafoo: no xorg.conf and xrandr won't allow me to force that resolution18:08
alkafoojimbozone: sorry don't know: http://www.google.com/search?q=radeon%20fglrx%20resolution%20site%3Aubuntuforums.org18:08
pimpangel56:  but what to do to connect to my wireless with channel 13 ?18:08
h00ksammy: can you lsb_release -a for me?18:08
alkafoosammy: why not use Ubuntu's kernel?18:09
fireprintpimp: i believe hak5 has an entire epi on channels. If you want a quick and easy look into it.18:09
pimpI'm  from EU , and here is legal that channel18:09
jimbozonealkafoo: thanks18:09
h00kpimp: perhaps the hardware doesn't support it18:09
nuclearwormhello, inputting two directions on dns servers is better than just one?18:09
me-1hi what is this error ...http://picpaste.com/Image0022-UGtCS6gB.jpg18:09
alkafoombeierl: check that link I sent to jimbo ^18:09
adi11ActionParsnip : this output from tty1. (-Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline)after some more output like this i give "exit" command and than it send me to some menu where i choose "startx". after that it beautifully uploads the GUI gnome, no unity.18:09
pimpin windows XP works perfect the same hardware18:09
h00knuclearworm: what does that mean?18:10
h00kpimp: what hardware is it?18:10
sammyalkafoo: to use the chromebook in a dualboot, the chromeos loader by default only loads google signed kernel images. to use ubuntu's kernel would mean disabling the ability to dual-boot. its possible, iirc18:11
angel56pimp: I suspect it is more a driver/module issue. The modules for that wifi card have probably not yet implemented EU support18:11
adi11ActionParsnip: how to find out what driver is nvidia using now that i am on GUI?18:11
alkafoosammy: ...why are you dual booting18:11
kilraeso i got myself a new hard drive and i want to use the whole thing, i seem to have two choices: (1) partition table (MBR) with one partition, (2) unpartitioned, is there any reason to choose one over the other?18:11
pimph00k:  x-micro wlan card18:11
alkafooadi11: jump through a million menu items, or run sudo lspci -k | less18:12
burghow can i give write permissions only to one user?18:12
pimpangel56:  Not it isn't issue of hardware , but the channels above 11 are ilegal in US so are disabled by default on Ubuntu18:12
angel56burg: make him owner of the file and only allow write by the owner18:13
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angel56pimp: that's what I said18:13
sammyalkafoo: its not my chromebook :) but thats a good question. because other than a lack of hard drive space, I didnt think there were any glaring issues. OH also because I believe some of the hardware, don't you have to boot into chromeos first, then restart (not power off) the machine, and then reboot into ubuntu so the hardware is initialized? I think the 3g modem might require such tomfoolery18:13
ActionParsnipadi11: sudo lshw -C display | grep driver18:13
pimpangel56:  but why in windows XP works18:13
sammyalkafoo: but I could be wrong.18:13
angel56pimp:I suspect you have european drivers for winxp18:13
ActionParsnipadi11: nouveau|nv = open driver     nvidia=proprietary18:14
adi11alkafoo : thanks. OMG ridiculous. how to type that vertical line on keyboard.18:14
sammykilrae: Id use a parition table. makes it easier to make changes later, if you ever wanted to.18:14
pimpangel56:  but i think there is an option to change that  , they thought even for EU18:14
sammykilrae: though I will admit I didnt know unpartitioned was an option18:14
sulumarHi18:15
SIFTUActionParsnip: adi11 its probably optimus18:15
sulumarCan anyone Help me with a bilbee setup18:15
angel56pimp: well, you have access to the source code for the module; change it to support european channels18:15
usr13adi11: On most keboards it's upper-case \18:15
sulumari cant find any accurate info18:15
ActionParsnipSIFTU: very likely. I hate that thing, so annoying18:15
alkafoosammy: it's just a Linux distro, pick the one you want and use just it18:15
SIFTUActionParsnip: tell me about it18:15
pimpbut where to find that module , in which folder18:15
in0culahi!, in my laptop with ubuntu 11.04 i put the brightness at the minimum, but still too shine for me, it there a way to decrease the brightness even more? thx18:15
sammykilrae: I also would suggest looking into separating certain directories into their own partition, like /usr or /var or /home. its good practice in case something goes horribly wrong18:16
SIFTUadi11: also run the following "lspci|grep -i VGA"18:16
alkafooin0cula: xgamma18:16
angel56pimp: in the kernel source packages18:16
kilraesammy, neither did i, just saw it today, i can't seem to find any information on it18:16
alkafooin0cula: but you might like xcalib -i -a even more18:16
SIFTUadi11: and tell me how many lines there are18:16
pimpwhat the exact name of wifi modul ?18:16
Psycho_Squid#pimp only for info. don't do it if you are not sure what you are doing. :) http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=4335118:16
adi11thanks guys. my nvidia driver now running is "nouveau"18:16
sammyalkafoo: as I said, I think I need chromeos to be able to initialize the 3g modem, or Id lose that functionality completely in ubuntu. but I need to do more research.18:17
alkafooadi11: that's the open source one18:17
AricDoes Ubuntu 11.04 run natively on ARM processors? (I want to put Ubuntu on an Asus Eee Pad, Transformer ... also curious about any information on driver compatibility with the Tegra 2 chipset, the proprietary keyboard dock on it etc and where I can get more details since some of my searches have been in vain18:17
Psycho_Squidthe guide is not even also not for your hardware18:17
alkafoosammy: that's incredibly unlikely18:17
Psycho_Squidnot even for your hardware*18:17
pimpwhat do you think is the solution ?18:18
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adi11SIFTU : 00:12.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C67 [GeForce 7150M / nForce 630M] (rev a2)18:18
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alkafoosammy: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Devices if you want to know for sure18:18
D_Russhello18:19
Psycho_Squid#in0cula is your GPU from nVidia?18:19
D_Russhow is everyone18:19
SIFTUadi11: ok, and thats the only line18:19
sammyalkafoo: I know it was definitely that way six months ago, but it may have changed since. the cr-48 is quite weird with its hardware. sometimes if it falls asleep, you have to reboot the machine to get all your hardware functionality back, ie xbacklight starts to report that nothing installed supports backlight control. its odd.18:19
alkafoosammy: but in all likelihood, as with everything else Google does, they took an open source driver and hardware known to work with it18:19
sammyalkafoo: and then tweaked it, like they do :P18:19
alkafoosammy: that doesn't necessarily mean the drivers are not open source =P18:19
h00ksammy: you can probably see if there's a chromebook or chromeium os channel and talk with them about it18:19
alkafoosammy: Google may have even _added_ the bugs18:19
alkafoolike they do18:20
dr_willis'extra undocumented features' :)18:20
sammyh00k: good call. im sure there is. my original question was about finding older versions of libc headers. but there's no such repository of old packages lying about, right?18:20
alkafoothere usually is18:20
angel56pimp: if you really need that channel, you might blacklist the wifi module you are using, install ndiswrapper, and try using the winxp driver you say works18:20
alkafooseems like a waste of time, though, for dual booting two Linux distros18:21
fireprintdoh.. totally forgot my nickreg pwd..18:21
adi11SIFTU : yes. only one18:21
alkafoofireprint: did you forget your nickreg email?18:21
fireprintnope18:21
SIFTUadi11: ok, well then thats good18:21
alkafoothen you're good =P18:21
Psycho_Squid#pimp either hack the ROM for your Wi-Fi card to force EU-region or try to find another driver. as you say it works with Windows XP. so the channels is not disabled by hardware. well, maybe the driver can unlock but not sure in your case18:21
sammyalkafoo: all I remember is that using the 3g modem in anything other than chromeos required booting into chromeos, initializing the modem, and then rebooting the machine. as i said, I'm hoping this has changed since, but I stopped looking into it. if I can find an older version of linux-libc-dev I can push it back to my current kernel version, along with the headers for module building, which are also a few versions too new.18:21
fireprintoh. sweet.18:21
in0culano it is ATI18:21
in0culaati 547018:21
adi11SIFTU : you think i should install the nvidia proprietary driver?18:22
alkafooadi11: if you aren't happy with nouveau18:22
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JargonnHi!18:22
alkafooJargonn: hi18:23
Psycho_Squid#in0cula I use smartdimmer for nVidia. maybe there is a similiar tool18:23
JargonnHow can I burn .dmg files?18:23
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adi11the problem is that i tried on that driver too. it didnt do much. still hang s on after grub page18:23
fireprintalkafoo i tried "help" but cant really get anything off of it. Any tip on where i should be looking?18:24
Psycho_Squid#Jargoon DMG contains a filesystem. Do you want to burn the filesystem and its content or just the plain DMG-file?18:24
fireprintnevermind alkafoo, i see you are busy helping people out. Ill google it. thanks tho18:25
D_Russi am having an issue with restarting of natty, my mouse and keyboard. i have a belkin kvm switch installed (windows machine and ubuntu machine) 2 keyboards, 1 ps2 keyboard connected to the ubuntu (always works) and a usb mouse and keyboard connected to the belkin kvm switch. the problem is that the kvm KB & mouse does not work for atleast 3-5 minutes when i restart ubuntu. Anyone know of any...18:25
D_Russ...solutions or experiencing the same thing?18:25
adi11guys i have 3 drivers available: Nvidia accelerated grapichs driver (version 173), Nvidia accelerated grapichs driver (version current) {reccomanded}, and Experimental 3d support for nvidia cards. which one?18:26
Psycho_Squid#adi11 the recommended one is working fine... at least on my box :)18:27
adi11Psycho_Squid : did u do somthing with boot option like "nomodeset" or anything else?18:27
JargonnHow can I burn .dmg files?18:28
alkafooJargonn: read up18:28
adi11Psycho_Squid : i cant bot normally on ubuntu. it hangs on the purple screen after grub page.18:28
Psycho_Squid#Jargoon maybe you can convert the DMG-file to ISO and then burn it18:28
Psycho_Squid#adi11 you sure it has to do with the nVidia driver?18:29
JargonnPsycho_Squid: I would like to burn a mac os x loin dmg to a disk so I can install it18:29
alkafooJargonn: just copying it over should suffice18:30
adi11Psycho_Squid thats what some other people here think..18:30
ActionParsnipJargonn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManageDiscImages   mentions them18:30
alkafoofireprint: ask #freenode if you can't figure it out18:30
Psycho_Squid#adi11 ok. is the system in a deadlock or can you press CTRL+ALT+F1?18:31
D_Russi have tried unplugging and nothing works18:31
in0culaxgamma don't change brightness :((18:31
in0culaany idea on ati , i need less brightness18:31
fireprintah ok, thanks alkafoo. Appreciated18:31
Psycho_Squid#Jargoon you can extract a DMG-file to a separate disk using the command dd. Is that what you want to do?18:31
ActionParsnipPsycho_Squid: you do realize adding # to the start of nicks makes highlighting not work. This isn't twitter18:32
adi11Psycho_Squidafter grub page i choose ubuntu recovery and goes to tty. i live it like that for 5 min after all output i give command "exit". than it gives me the menu where i choose "startx"18:32
alex_exit18:32
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jasonlfunkIs there a way I can tell which files a program is trying to open? It's simply telling me "No such file or directory" but doesn't say WHICH file doesn't exist.18:33
adi11Psycho_Squid : and this is how i log in to ubuntu. but once i log in GUI it runs smoothly and i love it.18:33
ActionParsnip#Psycho_Squid: see how this isn't highlighted18:33
Psycho_SquidSorry ActoinParsnip. ages since I used IRC ;)18:33
ActionParsnipjasonlfunk: run it from terminal, may give clues18:33
jasonlfunkActionParsnip: I am, it doesn't.18:34
ActionParsnipPsycho_Squid: np18:34
jwigginsI am trying to install ubuntu 10.04 on a new PC. When I go to install to drive it does not see my primary hard drive. However the disk manager utility and dmesg both see the drive. The drive is a 1TB WD, any advice?18:34
ActionParsnipPsycho_Squid: you can use tab to complete nicks too, faster18:34
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Psycho_Squidbut... in chatzilla (that I use) the nick is highlighted/bold :p18:35
ActionParsnipjasonlfunk: what is the command?18:35
D_Russjwiggins whats on there now?18:35
TheMatrix3000ActionParsnip: that's kinda cool18:35
zookaTheMatrix3000: saves you a lot of typing18:35
jwigginsD_Russ, I cleared it, empty drive no partitions. I even tried added a 50GB partition via disk manager with ext4 and it still doesn't see it18:36
ActionParsnipjwiggins: does the drive detect in bios? Have you tried18:36
TheMatrix3000zooka: yes it does, i can't believe I have been using this stuff for over a year and still haven't known about that18:36
ActionParsnipjwiggins: tried natty live cd18:36
jwigginsActionParsnip, yes, and I can mount it when I cancel the installation18:36
offermannwhere is germa ubuntu?18:36
D_Russyoumight have a bad burn on the disc18:36
gotoHello, does anyone know which metacity-theme this is: http://i.imgur.com/EArz1.png ?18:36
offermanngemrna18:36
offermanngerman18:36
jasonlfunkActionParsnip: It's some non-public proprietary software…. I thought there might be a linux command that will print out system calls for file accesses.18:36
jwigginsActionParsnip, I am installing from a USB drive18:36
D_Russi spent 5 hours trying to install natty to find out the disc i burned it on was junk18:37
ActionParsnipTheMatrix3000: tab completion is cool, do you mean?18:37
offermannubuntu-de18:37
alkafoojwiggins: if you can setup partitions with gparted, try that18:37
angel56D_Russ: that is what md5sum is for18:37
jwigginsIt sees the 500MB drive I have in there, so I removed it18:37
offermannhelp ! german ubuntu18:37
jwigginsalkafoo, when I did that it still didn't see the drive via installation18:37
Pici!de | offermann18:38
ubottuoffermann: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!18:38
D_Russi went through 6 blank discs. never buy tdk discs18:38
AricWill Ubuntu 11.04 run natively on an Eee Pad Transformer?18:38
alkafoojwiggins: time for a debootstrap, maybe18:38
angel56if I found six bad TDK disks I would start to suspect the drive18:38
ActionParsnipjwiggins: interesting. If you then partition the drive manually then rerun the installer is it ok? Did you update ubiqity before running the installer?18:38
vikramhow to play .mp3 file via cmd line18:39
D_Russ#angel56 but the thing is that i purchased some maxells and it worked the first time18:39
ActionParsnipvikram: mplayer or vlc-nox18:39
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D_Russeven an older 9.04 disc i had worked18:39
ActionParsnipD_Russ: md5 test the iso and burn as slowly as possible18:40
D_Russits all working now18:40
synackfinhow do I install 32-bit gilbc so I can run 32-bit apps? (on 64-bit ubuntu)18:41
D_Russbut like you said i know what to do now if any future problems18:41
vikramcan i play it by redirecting it to any device ?18:41
D_Russi just wish i could get this keyboard and mouse problem resolved18:42
ActionParsnipjwiggins: you can still update ubiquity in liveusb. Have you tried Natty18:42
angel56vikram: I use the 'play' command. It is part of a package, but I don't recall which package18:42
angel56vikram: it is part of 'sox'18:42
ActionParsnipvikram: it will use the configured sound device18:43
synackfinnevermind, found it:  apt-get install ia32-libs18:43
synackfinsynackin18:43
MTProwerHiya awesome fun peeps18:43
MTProwerI'm new to Linux, and I was hoping for some support in installing Kubuntu18:43
ActionParsnipaplay is in a default install too angel56 vikram18:43
angel56ActionParsnip: yeah, but sox installs so many neat toys <smile>18:44
ActionParsnipMTPrower: give some details and the channel will help if it can18:44
ChotazI installed Ubuntu 11.04 over Win7(as in formatting the machines hdd and installing ubuntu after) and when I try to boot up the computer I get an error saying 'error : no such device :' and a long alphanumeric string after and below that an input line saying 'grub rescue>'18:44
ActionParsnipChotaz: you can boot livecd and reinstate grub from there.18:45
MTProwerActionParsnip: I attempted installations last night and failed miserably. I have a CD and a flash drive. I prefer the flash drive. I have three partitions right now: System reserved, NTFS, 100 Mb, System, Primary; Storage, NTFS, 400 GB, Boot, Primary; and Linux, EXT3, 65 GB, None, Logical18:46
MTProwerActionParsnip: I need to keep that 400 GB untouched18:46
MTPrower...wow... enter and leave spam...18:48
MTPrower*enter-and-leave spam18:48
Urchinit seems that MTPrower didn't get the installer to run, from my talking to him18:48
UrchinI haven't installed ubuntu in a while18:48
MTProwerUrchin: lol hiya Urchin. I got the installer to run, but it failed without an error message18:48
ActionParsnipMTPrower: that's fine. Fixing grub doesn't touch NTFS.18:49
MTProwerUrchin: it got to a slideshow where it was supposed to be installing and played the slideshow, but did nothing else for 6+ hours18:49
Hanowhat is best irc-application for ubuntu?18:49
MTProwerActionParsnip: what is Grub? I've heard of it18:49
UrchinHano: try xchat18:49
ActionParsnip!grub18:50
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)18:50
LudipeHi!  I am using Xubuntu 11.4 and somehow my desktop manager wont work, where there should be icons there's just a big grey screen ( the tool bar works fine ) ; anyideas to solve it?18:50
XenethHano: Preference18:50
UrchinHano: or just use chatzilla as a firefox plugin, works everywhere18:50
MTProwerubottu: does Grub install Kubuntu?18:50
ubottuMTPrower: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:50
MTPrower...lol18:50
alkafooLudipe: make sure xfdesktop is running18:50
UrchinMTPrower: grub is the boot loader that boots the os18:50
alkafooLudipe: and make sure nautilus isn't18:51
MTProwerActionParsnip: does Grub install Kubuntu or only Ubuntu?18:51
Ludipealkafoo: ok, i am gonna check it18:51
ioMTPrower: no. the user installs Kubuntu - grub boots it18:51
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MTProwerio: yeah, I've been having trouble installing Kubuntu. Booting it isn't the problem. Yet.18:51
ChotazActionParsnip:  im currently on liveCD can you help me from here, I never dealt with grub.18:51
ActionParsnipMTPrower: it loads the kernel then the drives and such. The fact you use KDE instead of Gnome is moot18:52
ioMTPrower: then why are you worrying about grub?18:52
MTProwerThat reminds me. I want Linux on my hard drive, not on a live CD or USB18:52
MTProwerio: I was just asking what it was18:52
ioMTPrower: you can use the live CD to install it to your hard drive18:52
tarek_hi there. I completely messed up my audio settings (worked quite fine, only had some a/v sync problems) and now I'd love to find a way to just remove all alsa, pulseaudio, gstreamer and whatnot stuff and add a clean setup of all of this from scratch. Is there a way to do this?18:53
XenethIs there a way to make Windows my default OS for my gaming machine?  I tried modifying the default line, but as sune as the kernal updates, it's undone.18:53
XenethThis is in grub18:53
sulumar /msg NickServ identify Karano0018:53
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alkafooXeneth: you need to modify the custom config18:53
MTProwerio: If I have an EXT3 partition of 65 GB set apart for all Linux-related stuff, do I need to do anything else before I run the liveCD again?18:53
iotarek_: '$ apt-get purge ...'18:53
alkafooXeneth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2?action=show&redirect=GRUB2#Custom_Menu_Entries18:54
alkafooMTPrower: shouldn't have even had to do that =)18:54
vikramcan i put a game in grub ?18:54
MTProweralkafoo: except for the fact that I can't afford to lose what's on my larger partition18:54
ioMTPrower: requirements are outlined here, with a lot of other useful information regarding the install process: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation18:54
alkafooMTPrower: right, but the installer doesn't just randomly delete stuff =)18:55
BluesKajtarek_, alsa is the default driver for most audio cards , pulseaudio is redundant unless you use several audio sources simultaneously ...most likely if you have audio lag it's the [layer/source file's fault18:55
MTProwerio: I've seen those. I was asking more about actions to be taken18:55
BluesKajplayer /source file18:55
ioMTPrower: if you've read it then why are you asking what is required? it's clearly outlined here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#Ubuntu_Desktop_Edition18:56
ioMTPrower: or do you want me to type what's on that page for you?18:56
MTPrower...so if I'm booting a USB installation of Windows, I can just boot the compy with the USB in. I tried doing that with my liveUSB, but I'm not sure it worked...18:56
sunicevikram: grub would not boot a game alone.18:56
MTProwerio: ...look, I've read tons of pages. It's all a bunch of mess to me. Some people don't learn how things work through the same kind of teaching media as others18:57
sunicevikram: wouldn't have the enviroment variables to run it. It's for choosing and booting the OS.18:57
vikramor at least wallpaper ... ?18:57
ioMTPrower: you're asking about requirements; those are the requirements. it couldn't be any simpler18:57
tarek_okay ... it's just that I messed around with everything, executed a whole lot of stuff I found in forums and tutorials etc. and now some things are worse than before (for example my speakers won't mute if I plug in my headphones)18:57
tarek_so. I now have purge. What do I do to "reset" all my audio stuff? (sry, I really not that experienced with this ^^)18:58
D_Russanyone know anything about resolving some keyboard andmouse issues in natty?18:58
ChotazActionParsnip:  im currently on liveCD can you help me from here, I never dealt with grub.18:58
MTProwerio: I never once asked for hardware requirements here. I said I was having problems with installation. I definitely meet hardware requirements18:58
mbeierlwhy oh why... I cannot launch libre office anymore because it hangs compiz with 100% cpu usage as the startup banner reaches about 50% loaded...  restarting compiz gets me out of it, but I cannot find the libre office window anywhere... even though the soffice.bin process is still there18:58
ActionParsnipChotaz: there are guides all over the web for it18:59
suniceMTPrower: during the install process ubuntu ask you where you wish to install. It then uses gparted to resize each partition according to what you choose. As long as you do not oversize the one you are installing ubuntu on you are golden.18:59
alkafooD_Russ: issues?18:59
ioMTPrower: you asked about requirements before booting the live CD18:59
ActionParsnipmbeierl: does it affect all users?18:59
MTProwerio: I asked about what I should do, not about what I need18:59
sunicembeierl: have you killed the process?18:59
mbeierlActionParsnip: ?  I'm the only user on this system.18:59
MTProwerio: sorry if I miscommunicated18:59
sechi18:59
ActionParsnipmbeierl: make a new user to test then...18:59
mbeierlsunice: yes, I killed it.  The soffice.bin that is19:00
MTProwerBRB awesome fun peeps. Gonna try installing Ubuntu again19:00
mbeierlActionParsnip: ah, ok19:00
secsomebody knows how add more desktop in ubuntu 11.04 with unity? only I've 4 desktops19:00
ChotazActionParsnip:  im not an expert with ubuntu or linux at all, I thought live help would get things done faster, but i-ll search around :) you said I need to reinstate grub?19:00
sunicembeierl: then on re-launching it hung again.19:00
ActionParsnipChotaz: nobody is born one either19:00
MTProwerohwait, one more question that I asked but was not responded to yet: I have a USB stick with Kubuntu on it. How do I activate the installer? Can I just reboot my compy with the flash drive in it, or do I have to do something else?19:01
bil21ali m login from empathy in the freenode account but iit is asking a password my nick is reg but i dont remember the password so how can i et that password/.??19:01
ChotazActionParsnip:  got me there, I might have found something useful, I gonna try this and will be back later with a report19:01
sunicembeierl: if case then have you tried looking at the process tree to see if it's a sup-process?19:01
io!usb | MTPrower19:01
ubottuMTPrower: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent19:01
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MTProwerio: dude, I read all this stuff. It's confusing. People can explain things in person way better than any paper can. Trust me, I am an excellent teacher19:02
Urchinwhat sort of bot is ubottu?19:02
D_Russ#alkafooi am having an issue with restarting of natty, my mouse and keyboard. i have a belkin kvm switch installed (windows machine and ubuntu machine) 2 keyboards, 1 ps2 keyboard connected to the ubuntu (always works) and a usb mouse and keyboard connected to the belkin kvm switch. the problem is that the kvm KB & mouse does not work for atleast 3-5 minutes when i restart ubuntu19:02
mbeierlsunice: it's not soffice that hangs, it's that when it displays the start up banner, it causes compiz to hang with 100% cpu usage19:03
in0culaTHX Psycho_Squid  THX19:03
ioMTPrower: asking us to explain something that's already explained is lazy. read it, and ask specific questions on what you're unsure on19:03
alkafooD_Russ: <- how you address someone on IRC if you want them to notice your message19:03
sunicembeierl: sorry misread19:03
MTProwerio: also, this only explains creating a liveUSB with Linux, and says explicitly that you need Linux to create a liveUSB. That's bullcrap19:03
D_Russok sorry19:04
alkafooD_Russ: and sorry but I never use kvms19:04
ioMTPrower: please watch your language19:04
UrchinMTPrower: why can't you just boot off a cd?19:04
ActionParsnipChotazAFK: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin719:04
D_Russthanks anyhow19:04
MTProwerio: if you get offended at "bullcrap", then that's your fault. How it could possibly harm anyone is just beyond me19:04
Max229How do I watch TV on my Ubuntu box?  What do I need?19:05
mbeierlsunice: np.  I don't really understand what's going on with soffice/compiz interaction at this point, but thanks anyway19:05
io!tv | Max22919:05
ubottuMax229: http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), Kaffeine, kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Me-TV (GNOME), Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out19:05
MTProwerUrchin: I'm poor I have one CD left and no burning software. I'm afraid to waste it, especially since I seem to have messed up with my first liveCD19:05
UrchinMTPrower: what did you burn for the first live cd?19:06
suniceMTPrower: it's understandable that you have questions, but if you have not put in an effort to read the documentation, Linux users generally are not as happy to help. We(atleast me) are only in here to help others. Please do not get upset with people when they are only trying to help you along19:06
paulus68MtPrower use virtualbox to experiment19:06
mzuverinkwill 11.10 feature a unity based gnome 3 or a classsic gnome 3?19:06
silvanoplease  ubuntu br19:06
Guest14189virtual box problem usb support19:06
io!br | silvano19:07
ubottusilvano: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.19:07
Guest14189cant be solved19:07
milkoHi people!19:07
MTProwersunice: I did read the documentation. There's a lot of conflicting information and a bunch of things I don't understand. I ain't getting upset, not even at io, even though he is a bit redundant...19:07
milkoI'm trying to lunch ubuntu-one19:07
LaWUHi Milko.19:07
milkoand I'm getting this error:19:07
ActionParsnipGuest14189: the closed source on does. The OSE doesn't19:07
milko  for with, objects in v.iteritems():19:07
Guest14189how can i get open source one?19:07
milkoit is from this file:19:07
milkoFile "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/zope/interface/adapter.py", line 20119:07
urlin2umzuverink, unity 2d 3d stock gnome 3 s in the repos19:07
urlin2uis19:08
suniceGuest14189: visit Oracle site19:08
Guest14189ok19:08
Guest14189thankx19:08
milkosomebody has some idea?19:08
MTProwerI'm gonna try to boot from USB again. I will probably be back. See ya19:08
Guest14189and one thing  stable version of 11.10 released ?19:08
Guest14189or when will?19:08
suniceMTPrower: good luck19:08
MTProwersunice: thanks19:08
ActionParsnipGuest14189: the open one is in the repo. The closed one is a different app and can be installed using the virtualbox ppa19:08
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mikamelonenat least ubuntu's broadcom driver works, xp's is stuck19:08
mzuverinkurlin2u, thanks19:09
TheEvilPhoenixGuest14189:  #ubuntu+1 for 11.10 questions19:09
Guest14189ok19:09
paulus68Guest14189: normally at the end of october19:09
Guest14189it is so good19:09
ActionParsnipGuest14189: the one in oneiric will be the open one too.19:09
Guest14189i hope gnome3 wont breaks19:09
Guest14189also gdm screen is better19:09
Guest14189i love ubuntu:D19:09
ActionParsnipGuest14189: works here19:09
Guest14189i hope i contribute to ubuntu19:10
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Guest14189i will write some programmes19:10
paulus68is there a way to activate unity19:10
Urchinxdm+ratpoison=win19:10
pikapika-is it possible to install to and boot from a virtual disk(natively not a VM)?  I know windows 7 added support for their bootloader to boot .VHDs natively is there some way to do that with linux?  i don't care what format of virtual disk it is19:10
Urchin:P19:10
Guest14189paulus68: open terminal and write unity19:11
Guest14189or you can do it gconf-editor19:11
alkafoopikapika-: what do you mean natively not a vm19:11
Guest14189but i dont remember the full path19:11
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alkafoopikapika-: you want to boot a guest from GRUB?19:11
urlin2upikapika-, you kust asked the excat same question in #fedora please do not use multiple channels.19:11
urlin2ujust/exact*19:11
alkafoopikapika-: the simplest way would be to install to a partition with kvm/qemu, then you can just add another entry to GRUB for that partition19:12
Psycho_Squidpikapika: everything is possible but it takes some effort :)19:12
Xenethalkafoo: sorry, I'm working.  I did that and it works, but it get's undone when it upgrades.  Looking for something that will not change.19:12
pikapika-urlin2u guess what, I'm an independant woman and I can ask whoever I want whatever I want and if you don't like that you can get in line buddy19:12
alkafoocoming at it from behind19:12
ActionParsnippikapika-: i saw a guide so i'd say yes. Grub2 is a magical beast19:12
alkafooXeneth: the custom file? Should not be touched during upgrade19:12
pikapika-ActionParsnip yea that was for a product that costs 80+ dollars though i checked out that vboot19:13
ActionParsnippikapika-: I've not done it myself19:13
urlin2upikapika-, yes you can but the ops will ban you for an attitude and continuing to do this. :D19:13
Xenethalkafoo: Where there was a kernal upgreade it did.19:13
ActionParsnippikapika-: why. Grub2 is free...19:13
Psycho_SquidActionParsnip: what about try to use features from Virtualbox in some fancy way?19:13
c0mrade_WriteLn.Console("Hello");19:14
pikapika-ActionParsnip from what i read vboot uses a modified grub2 and has not published the source for other people to implement the changes19:14
alkafooXeneth: then your system is malfunctioning19:14
J11is there anyway to unblock a hard rf-kill switch?19:15
Guest14189take care guyss19:15
c0mrade_How can a 6-stage pipeline be implemented? Through hardwired logical circuitry/gates or assembly/microcode?19:15
TrevorBradley_Hey folks.. .does anyone know if GoogleBot is Drupal aware, and starts hunting for /node/* urls even if they're not linked to?19:17
J11the laptop has a wifi sliderswitch(one that has a spring to go back in the same position)19:17
LudipeHi! I had a few issues with the desktop manager in xubuntu before, I solved it but xfdesktop doesnt start by itself so i have to run it from a terminal and if i close the terminal my user session ends19:17
TrevorBradley_I'm trying to track down how Google managed to get to certain URLs on my site...19:17
J11but it seems ubuntu doesn't respond to it19:17
pikapika-alkafoo what I'm trying to accomplish is booting from a file, windows uses .vhd because well thats microsoft's format for virtual disks but either way their bootloader boots the .vhd file as if it were a fully partitioned HD install, I'm trying to accomplish something like that with linux be it .iso or squashfs or whatever i just need some kind of guide to follow ;d19:17
J11so i hope there is another way other than opening the laptop19:17
furg19:17
c0mrade_Anyone heard what did Obama say about Palestine? Do you beleive this? He wants innocent people to die.19:18
alkafooTrevorBradley_: from links19:18
ikoniac0mrade_: that's not for discussion in this channel please.19:18
J11rfkill list gives Hard blocked: yes19:18
TrevorBradley_alkafoo, is it possible that there aren't any links, but it still might be indexed??19:18
alkafoopikapika-: what exactly does it get you?19:18
c0mrade_Oh my oh my.19:18
alkafooTrevorBradley_: not unless someone personally submitted it19:19
TrevorBradley_e.g. Google finds /node/1234, and tries node/123519:19
ikoniac0mrade_: thank you.19:19
apandaahoi. does anyone know how to disable "autoplay" for removable media for pcmanfm?19:19
c0mrade_Oh dear.19:19
LudipeHi! I had a few issues with the desktop manager in xubuntu before, I solved it but xfdesktop doesnt start by itself so i have to run it from a terminal and if i close the terminal my user session ends, how do i make xfdesktop autoexecute?19:19
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alkafooTrevorBradley_: I'm not aware of any behavior such as that19:19
TrevorBradley_I'm trying to find referring sites for these links and coming up blank, alkafoo... I'll keep looking then.19:19
alkafooTrevorBradley_: it wouldn't surprise me if they check 1235, but I doubt they'd list it19:19
c0mrade_You must say: "STOP THAT YOU BA*****, DON'T SAY ANYTHING OFFTOPIC!!!"19:19
alkafooTrevorBradley_: might ask #web19:19
ActionParsnippikapika-: http://reboot.pro/11060/19:19
* TrevorBradley_ goes off to puzzle and check logs.19:20
TrevorBradley_thanks.19:20
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grzegorzhello19:20
ActionParsnipikonia: not as quick as you used to be ;-)19:20
alkafoopikapika-: if you use kvm, there's no need for a VHD, you can use an ordinary hard disk partition, virtualized19:20
TrevorBradley_Crap I though I was in #drupal, sorry folks!19:20
alkafoogrzegorz: hi19:20
ikoniaActionParsnip: chanserv was slow, sorry. I'll do better19:21
LudipeHi! I had a few issues with the desktop manager in xubuntu before, I solved it but xfdesktop doesnt start by itself so i have to run it from a terminal and if i close the terminal my user session ends, how do i make xfdesktop autoexecute?19:21
ActionParsnipIko19:22
ActionParsnipikonia: you do a sweet job dude, don't sweat it19:22
paulus68ActionParsnip: you both do great here19:23
ActionParsnipCheers man19:24
paulus68ActionParsnip: I know I haven't been arround that much lately but when I am here and you guys (meaning you Ikonia Pici LJL) are there I know I get some good advice on how to solve my problems19:25
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paulus68and that's really appreciated from my side19:26
Saalko!german19:27
ubottuIn den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!19:27
ActionParsnipLudipe: there are guides on how to get autologin without needing a login screen etc. You could even install slim or lxdm and login with that and have it set the desktop.19:28
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mateuszhalllo19:31
mysticaloneI'm trying to install Zukitwo theme on Gnome3 but I'm getting confused by the GTK3 instructions19:32
ActionParsnipPaulus68: works both ways. I get so few issues with ubuntu i like to solve the issues so i can learn the OS. Otherwise i'd know very little19:32
Webonautehi. how I run a process from root as an other user?19:32
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ActionParsnipWebonaute: prefix the command with:  sudo19:32
ActionParsnipmysticalone: gnome3 isn't supported here19:33
paulus68ActionParsnip: but that's because you work with it 24/7 I use it occasionally unfortunatly since I depend on windows because of my work19:33
WebonauteActionParsnip: I dont want to run the process as root.19:33
Webonautebut like it was www-data19:33
llutzWebonaute: sudo -u user   or su19:34
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ActionParsnippaulus68: i mainly use win server 2k3 and ESX for work. Ubuntu just makes my home systems easier19:34
ActionParsnipWebonaute: as llutz says. You'll find examples online19:35
ActionParsnippaulus68: thanks for the grattitude. It makes a difference :-)19:36
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Webonautety. su user - c will do the job I think19:37
jazonnis it possible to install to a loopfile on an ntfs partition?19:37
secsomebody knows how add more desktop in ubuntu 11.04 with unity? only I've 4 desktops19:38
paulus68ActionParsnip: unfortunatly there are still some windows applications that I need to give a good support to my customers and from time to time the lack of finding a descent driver for specific hardware( but it became better over the years,  I must admit)19:38
jlstewsec -- right click on the grid that shows your desktops (on your task bar), select preferences19:39
jlstewincrease the numbers of columns and rows19:39
gh0stIs there an assembler like masm I can use on Ubuntu? I found "nasm" in the Ubuntu Software Center. Is that essentially the same thing?19:39
Webonauteany daemon exist for ubuntu to check the permission change on a direcotry?19:40
TomSlominskiHi. I've got a Samsung Galaxy S II and weirdly, it seems to be colliding with my wireless card. Only a full restart helps :(19:40
dryad!ops19:40
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, or rww!19:40
LjLdryad: yes?19:40
jpdsdryad: Hello.19:40
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jlstewWebonaute -- i think this guide is what you're looking for19:42
jlstewhttp://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-inotify-examples-to-replicate-directories/19:42
jazonnis there a performance loss with using wubi?19:43
D_Russok so i just figured out and maybe i and wrong that my usb keyboard and mouse issues may not be belkin kvm related. Reason is becaus i unplugged them both from the kvm and plugged them direct to the buntu box and i still have the 3-5 minute delay before they start to work after a reboot19:44
jpvoipHelllo, im havin some issues with my notebook running ubutnu 11.04: it doesnt recognize my webcam and bluetooth.... what is the best approach to find and install the correct drivers?19:44
D_Russanyideas19:44
gh0stWell binuntils is already installed, but how do I use it?19:44
jlstewjpvoip: what model is your laptop?19:45
elhoirhello guys, i want to downgrade Win7 32-bit to WinXP 64-bit.... i have Ubuntu 11.04 installed in another partition and i dont want to lose it in the process.... how can i restore GRUB ?19:45
secjlstew: not work19:45
secjlstew: is ubuntu 11.04 + unity19:46
rst8!ops19:46
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, or rww!19:46
elhoiri know how to restore when you are reinstalling the same OS you previously had installed... but Win7 and XP have different boot loaders so....19:46
jpdsrst8: A ver, tio.19:46
elhoirjpds: español? :)19:46
jpdselhoir: Yes.19:47
elhoirjpds: pues tu me vas a servir de ayuda :D19:47
jpdselhoir: → #ubuntu-es19:47
jazonnis there a performance loss with using wubi?19:47
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macer1jazonn, yes19:48
shbkhello! does anybody know way in which possible to create booting usb pen with: msdos, linux, windows ? I sought, but I 've found only combinations like   windows+msdos  or windows+linux.  but I need all three OS. thanks in advance19:48
macer1jazonn, if you can install it without wubi, please do it...19:48
genii-aroundjazonn: Yes. there is a very comprehensive article on the subject at http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_wubi_1010&num=119:48
secjlstew: any idea?19:49
jlstewsec: the app that is used for that is "Workspace Switcher"19:49
jlstewyou might be able to do a search for it in the unity interface19:50
yizzlegizziewhen i put my mouse over an audio file it use to play the file but now it does not I wonder why?19:50
LjLi hope that's a misfeature that's been removed!19:50
shbk hello! does anybody know way in which is possible to create booting usb pen with: msdos, linux, windows ? I sought, but I 've found only combinations like   windows+msdos  or windows+linux.  but I need all three OS. thanks in advance  (I corrected grammar)19:51
tarek_hi there. I messend around with alsa and pulse audio, now my speakers won't mute when I plug in and I lost my volume control indicator thingy. : ( — and advice?19:51
tarek_*plug in headphones19:52
jpvoips093294:  InfoWay note w741519:54
jpvoipjlstew: InfoWay note w741519:55
Guest17878.19:55
hellslingerhello! does anyone know why grub isn't accepting my default option?19:56
hellslingerI've set /etc/default/grub to have my windows partition as my default, have run update-grub, but the default still appears to be the first thing in the grub list at boot19:56
tonywadehi19:57
llutzhellslinger: "default" doesn't change the order, it just places the cursor on the default-entry19:59
tonywadedoes anyone know how to install the latest assault cube from the website19:59
hellslingerllutz, unfortunately, it isn't even doing that for me19:59
eduardooI've installed natty with homedir encrypted. It used to work for a week. No I cannot log in using gdm. I can log in into console. It's really sad...19:59
jlstewjpvoip: you from portugal? looks like that model comes prepackaged with Windows 7...you might verify that the bluetooth and wifi are functioning properly there first.20:00
hellslingeron launchpad, someone suggest a hack to change the os-prober in /etc/grub.d/ to a higher precedence20:00
hellslingerby changing it's name20:00
robinbowesIs there any particular reason visudo defaults to using nano as its editor?20:00
eduardooI addem myself to nopasswdlogin group to overcome it.20:00
llutzhellslinger: yes, rename it to 08 or somewhat < linux-entries20:00
hellslingerllutz: I guess that'll work, I wish I didn't have to use a hack to make it work... oh well20:01
eduardooAnybody can help me to debug this mess? I've seen some interesting things in /var/log/gdm20:01
hellslingerllutz, thanks20:01
llutzhellslinger: it'ss work since it finds your windows before it even checks for other (linux) OS20:02
hellslingerllutz, it's too bad GRUB_DEFAULT doesn't work20:03
tarek_hi there. I messend around with alsa and pulse audio, now my speakers won't mute when I plug in headphones and I lost my volume control applet. : ( — and advice?20:03
llutzhellslinger: file a bugreport, it should work20:04
jpvoipjlstew: Brasil... yes... it was working on win7...20:04
magn3tsAre the ubuntu apt servers down?20:08
beefmani'm trying to install pecl/json but keep getting "Cannot find config.m4" then a phpize error...  any ideas?20:08
eypalSorrya again for asking but in case here is somebody from Canonical Ltd please could you send a private message for me. I do have something business stuff in my mind, a kind of checking up one thing on your website. Have been trying to email you but haven't gotten reply. Thank you so much.20:09
llutzeypal: canonical.com -> contact    is the better place for you20:09
BarkingFishmagn3ts, they're working at this end -  what problems are you having?20:09
magn3tsBarkingFish, not sure, they 404'd four times in a row and then finally went through :S20:10
magn3tsmight have been a hickup on the local network or somethign20:10
BarkingFishpossibly your network connection might've been a bit slow and they timed out, magn3ts20:10
BarkingFishhappened to me a few times on Wifi20:10
jiltdilI am recording video by desktop recorder but after recording it also gives some small noise how to fix this?20:11
yeatsjiltdil: what kind of noise?  a low hum?20:12
jiltdilyeats:yes20:12
yeatsjiltdil: it probably means your computer is not properly grounded20:13
jiltdilyeats: means you are talking about  electricity earhing20:13
kumia20:13
jiltdilyeats:Any suggestion for me to do it better20:14
yeatsjiltdil: you'll need to investigate your power setup (which is outside of #ubuntu support, unfortunately :-/ )20:14
jiltdilyeats: ok thanks20:14
BarkingFishjiltdil, you can check this, if you unplug your speakers from your speaker socket and touch the tip of the plug on any metal part of your case, do you hear a hum or buzz from your speakers?20:14
BarkingFishif so, you need to switch off your PC and speak to a technician about getting your case, board and equipment correctly grounded.20:15
jiltdilBarkingfish:yes20:15
BarkingFishI've had an earth leak in a PC previously, and it failed to fire my circuit breakers downstairs.  I wound up with a PC fire.20:16
abbeci have totally wrong date from php20:16
jiltdilbarkingFish: hm this is right my house don't have earthing yet20:16
BarkingFishGet your machine tested at your earliest possible convenience20:16
abbecplus it have stopped20:16
jazonncan dd be used to backup a partition that is in use?20:17
vikramhow make entry for wall paper in grub ??20:17
jpvoipjlstew any idea?20:17
llutzjazonn: no, it might have corupted data in resulting image20:18
cdnjayI know this isn't the right forum but Meg Whitman, CEO of HP, crazy...20:18
BarkingFishcdnjay, if you know this isn't the right forum, please put it in one that is :) try #ubuntu-offtopic20:18
BarkingFishbrb20:19
CrazyLemonhey guys. I tried to install 11.10 on APU A6-3650 (with integrated graphics) and the damn thing doesnt want to boot ..i installed it via alternative cd/usb . Tried to go into recovery mode but no go - it stops at 'Loading ...'20:20
CrazyLemonSo any idea/hint ?20:20
JargonnHow can I create a DVD disk that will boot and allow me to install Mac, from ubuntu? I've got the DMG file, I bought it off the apple store.20:25
cdnjayJargonn: What do you mean "from ubuntu"?20:27
JargonnLike, what burning program should I use?20:28
icerootJargonn: brasero (installed by default), k3b20:29
icerootJargonn: but the best is not to use apple-products :)20:29
cdnjayCan brasero read dmg images?20:29
icerootcdnjay: i guess he means img-files20:30
zykotick9cdnjay, i doubt it20:30
Lobie1Is this where I ask general Ubuntu questions?20:30
Gentoo64yes20:30
h00kLobie1: this would be the place!20:30
icerootLobie1: this20:30
cdnjayJargonn: Apple has a free utility to use for making a USB boot stick for Lion, is it possible for you to use that?20:31
Lobie1thanks. I'm having trouble updating an older version of Ubuntu20:31
llutzJargonn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34380820:31
Praet0riant0rian20:33
Lobie1I cannot update through the Update Manager with ubuntu 7.0420:33
KM0201Lobie1: because it is EOL20:33
iceroot!eol | Lobie120:33
ubottuLobie1: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades20:33
icerootLobie1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades20:33
Lobie1appreciate the quick reply.20:34
cdnjayLlutz: nice find, that's an impressive thread.20:35
Odaymis it possible to to upgrade from Ubuntu 10.04 to Kubuntu 10.10 if I have the latter's CD?20:35
Gentoo64i dont think so20:36
OdaymI don't either20:36
Praet0rianOdaym, yes20:36
Odaymit is? how?20:36
Odaymwait a minute20:36
Praet0rianOdaym, its not that difficut20:36
Odaymbut needs 2 hours of hacking around20:36
Odaym?20:36
icerootOdaym: upgrade to 10.10 ubuntu and then install kubuntu-desktop20:36
OdaymI dont want 10.10 with Unity20:37
Odaym10.10 doesn't have unity20:37
icerootOdaym: 10.10 has gnome220:37
Odaymyea20:37
Praet0rianOdaym, not, you simply keep your root systems and mount new ones20:37
icerootOdaym: 11.10 is the first release without gnome20:37
Praet0rian10.10 has unity20:37
Gentoo64id reinstall tbh20:37
icerootOdaym: without gnome220:37
Odaymwhen  I go to the update manager, I only get the option to upgrade to 11.0420:37
icerootPraet0rian: and gnome220:37
eduardooI cannot log in into gdm despite my passwd is OK. I use encrypted home. To log in into gdm I had to add myself nopasswdlogin and log in into console to force decryption of my home. Any body can help me to debug it further ?20:37
Omni_LynkAnyone know a good program that can setup an ISO to a USB Thumb/Pen Drive? Every version i've found so far wants me to go w/ a CD instead of the Thumbdrive i have.20:38
iceroot!usb | Omni_Lynk20:38
ubottuOmni_Lynk: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent20:38
KM0201Omni_Lynk: for windows?20:38
Praet0rianiceroot, irrelevnat, gnome can be installed ad an alternate WM20:38
Omni_LynkKM0201, For VMware20:38
igor_unetbootin install on usb20:38
icerootPraet0rian: what?20:38
xhazkhi20:38
KM0201have no idea about vmware20:38
Praet0rianiceroot> Praet0rian: and gnome220:38
Praet0rianyou asked20:39
icerootPraet0rian: gnome2 is installed by default on every ubuntu-system until 11.0420:39
* Praet0rian is VMware expert20:39
Praet0rianask away about VMware20:39
Omni_LynkKM0201, I have the ISO, just need a program that will burn it to my Thumbdrive.20:39
KM0201Omni_Lynk: why do you need a usb (or CD for that mater) for vmware.. just boot directly from the ISO.20:39
Praet0rianiceroot, not if specified otehrwise20:39
Praet0rianinstaller will not if asked20:39
llutzOmni_Lynk: hybrid-iso? use dd. if no hybrid, use unetbootin20:39
icerootPraet0rian: you know what "by default" means?20:39
Praet0riando you iceroot20:39
Praet0riandefault means its compiled20:40
icerootPraet0rian: what?20:40
Praet0rianyou have the option NOT to20:40
Praet0rianrtm20:40
Praet0rian;-)20:40
icerootPraet0rian: i dont think you get the topic of the discussion20:40
Omni_LynkKM0201, how do you boot directly from the ISO?20:40
KM0201Omni_Lynk: it's an option under the settings.20:41
KM0201i know its there, but i don't use vmware so not 100% sure20:41
KM0201but its there.20:41
Praet0rianiceroot, I been using just about every flavour of Linux ever distributed, I think I know my nix but thanks for your concern20:41
Omni_LynkKM0201, i have not installed it yet. it is going on a clean hard drive..20:41
KM0201Omni_Lynk: i thought you said you were using vmware20:41
icerootOdaym: back to topic, you canm use gnome2 with 10.1020:42
Gentoo64Omni_Lynk, is it just for booting an os?20:42
iceroot!classic | Odaym20:42
ubottuOdaym: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. To switch back to regular !GNOME: log out, click your username, click the Session box at the bottom of the screen, and select "Ubuntu Classic".20:42
OdaymI know I can20:42
Omni_LynkKM0201, i will be, i've downloaded the ISO, but cannot get it to start up on my thumb drive.20:42
Odaymbut it breaks, just like Unity20:42
icerootOdaym: why?20:42
PolahPraet0rian, it is completely unnecessary for you to take that attitude here.20:42
Gentoo64Omni_Lynk, for virtualbox / vmware just choose the iso..20:42
OdaymI don't know why it keeps breaking20:42
KM0201Omni_Lynk: why are you tryig to start it on a USB< if you want to install it in vmware?.. all you have to do is boot the ISO in vmware.. thats my point.20:42
Praet0rianPolah, no attitude20:43
Praet0rianjust hleping20:43
D_Russanyone good with mouse issues?20:43
Odaymnot my first run at Ubuntu, I ran away and came back20:43
Odaym:P20:43
D_Russkeyboard and mouse20:43
Praet0rianif I seem brass forgive me20:43
Odaymran away when Unity came around20:43
PolahPraet0rian, your last comment seems pretty close to "I'm better than you".20:43
Omni_LynkKM0201,  So i should just run the ISO in Ubuntu and install it into the clean Hard drive?20:43
Praet0riannot at all Polah20:43
icerootOdaym:  i would suggest to do the upgrade and if there are any issues fell free to get help here20:43
Praet0rianI am no better than anyone20:43
KM0201Omni_Lynk: you're making no sense... i can't make heads or tails of what you're wanting to do.20:43
Praet0rianI just love linux ;-)20:43
KM0201Omni_Lynk: vmware, installs to a virtual drive, not a hard drive.20:44
Gentoo64i thin most people here like linux... lol20:44
D_Russi love playing with all the free software20:44
D_Russbut i just wish things would work without issue20:44
Gentoo64D_Russ, what mouse issues?20:44
Odaymthat's not how life is20:44
Odaymso don't expect it to be that way with software :P20:44
IdleOnechit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please.20:45
Odaymthere are ALWAYS issues, and if you don't see the small ones, fear the bigger ones20:45
D_RusswhenGentoo64: mouse and keyboard dont work for 3-5 minutes on restart of natty20:45
Omni_LynkKM0201, So VMware does not run first, you boot from the OS, then into VMWare?20:45
Praet0rianWas someone asking about VMWare earlier?20:45
D_RussGentoo64: mouse and keyboard dont work for 3-5 minutes on restart of natty20:45
Gentoo64D_Russ, thats a hard one...20:45
Gentoo64try dmesg when they start working20:45
Gentoo64see if anything obvious comes up20:45
KM0201Omni_Lynk: sorry.... i have no idea what you're asking, you're gonna have to ask questions that make sense, in order to get help20:46
D_Russwhat is that20:46
D_Russdmesg in the terminal?20:46
Gentoo64D_Russ, just type dmesg in terminal20:46
Gentoo64yes20:46
Praet0rianEasier way to view dmesg is in system settings, just a tip20:46
D_Russok let me try that now20:46
Praet0rianmore readable20:46
Omni_LynkKM0201, k then..20:46
Omni_LynkAnyone know of a program that will burn an ISO to a Thumbdrive instead of a CD/DVD20:47
Gentoo64Omni_Lynk, unetbootin20:47
llutzOmni_Lynk: hybrid-iso? use dd. if no hybrid, use unetbootin20:47
Gentoo64theres quite a few20:47
D_Russwhere is it in system settings?20:47
KM0201Omni_Lynk: unetbootin20:47
Gentoo64D_Russ, idk about the system settings thing. just type dmesg in terminal20:47
D_Russwhat am i looking for?20:49
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Gentoo64D_Russ, most of the errors are obvious20:50
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Gentoo64look for mouse / keyboard / usb stuff20:50
Gentoo64or pastebin dmesg20:50
D_Russtype pastebin dmesg?20:51
draco_hi20:52
adwait_sharmadraco_:hi20:52
D_Russhello20:52
Mike33anyone know a page to help generate a gig key for my companies apt repo so I don't get the "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!"20:52
warfarencan i somehow make a key combination always be sent to my desktop manager?20:53
adwait_sharmahow can i get a Developer account of Ubuntu?20:53
rwwadwait_sharma: what do you mean by "developer account"?20:53
D_Russi would paste it here but its just way too much20:53
D_Russand i dont really understand it. however i do see mention of both keyboard and mouse20:54
adwait_sharmarww:i want to contribute Ubuntu community20:54
iceroot!paste | D_Russ20:54
ubottuD_Russ: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:54
rww!contribute | adwait_sharma20:54
ubottuadwait_sharma: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu20:54
icerootadwait_sharma: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess20:54
warfareni mean if i'm running a fullscreen application and press CTRL+ALT+left/right to switch desktop it does not do that because the fullscreen app is stealing the input20:54
adwait_sharmarww:Thanks :)20:54
adwait_sharmaubottu:thanks20:55
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)20:55
adwait_sharmaiceroot:thanks :)20:55
xlr8buonasera a tutti20:55
icerootadwait_sharma: you are welcome (and i am not a bot) :)20:55
D_Russ[   12.917952] EXT4-fs (sda5): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro,commit=0[   14.081986] r8169 0000:05:00.0: eth0: link up[   14.082144] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready[   14.615355] EXT4-fs (sda5): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro,commit=0[   16.384016] usb 1-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110[   24.560009] eth0: no IPv6 routers present[   31.600037] usb 1-3:...20:55
D_Russ...device descriptor read/64, error -110[   31.816013] usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4[   46.928037] usb 1-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110[   62.144019] usb 1-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110[   62.360029] usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 5[   72.768060] usb 1-3: device not accepting address 5, error -110[  ...20:55
adwait_sharmaiceroot:LoL :)20:55
FloodBot1D_Russ: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:55
D_Russ...72.880037] usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6[   83.288080] usb 1-3: device not accepting address 6, error -110[   83.288093] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 3[   83.552039] usb 2-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2[   83.774779] usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 2 if 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04A9 pid 0x1737[  ...20:55
rww!it | xlr820:55
ubottuxlr8: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)20:55
adwait_sharmaiceroot:means i can bother you in future too :D20:55
icerootadwait_sharma: like everyone else here :)20:56
Omni_LynkGentoo64, KM0201, llutz, Thank you all for your help, Unetbootin worked wonders.20:57
tonywadecan any 1 help me?20:58
iceroottonywade: depending on your question20:58
PolahMike33: You can use gpg --gen-key to generate a key pair, then I believe you need to output the public key to a file, but I don't know exactly how to configure the repository to use that key file for signing20:58
Polahtonywade: It's quite likely.20:58
Tophanhi20:58
icerootMike33: the packages are signed with a key, that key needs to get imported on client-side20:58
icerootMike33: the repo itself doesnt have a key, just the packages20:59
D_Russwhat do i do after i have used the pastebin20:59
warfarensend that link to someone?20:59
D_Russok20:59
Polahiceroot: Isn't the key information supplied by the repository? I recall when using add-apt-repository it pulls some signing information20:59
warfarenthat's why you upload something to pastebin, right?20:59
tonywadei would like to download the new version of assultcube but it is not on the software centre what do i do?20:59
Polahiceroot: i.e. the packages are signed individually but the repository is configured to tell the client that all packages are signed with x key?21:00
icerootPolah: the packages are signed with a key, the key can be stored in the repo or is part of a package (ubuntu-keyring e.g.)21:00
icerootPolah: imo21:00
tonywadehello?21:00
TophanI installed Ubuntu 11.10 and then gnome-shell21:01
Tophancan I change LightDM to start Gnome3 instead of Unity?21:01
adwait_sharmaI'm planning to conduct a Ubuntu Party in my University21:01
rwwTophan: #ubuntu+1 for oneiric questions until it's released, please21:01
adwait_sharmacan someone tell me how can i get swags for it?21:01
icerootD_Russ: [   31.600037] usb 1-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110   this seems to be the issue for your mouse/keyboard-problems21:01
rww!notunity-#ubuntu+1 | Tophan: but anyway21:01
ubottuTophan: but anyway: To use GNOME Shell on Oneiric, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place a new entry in the Sessions dropdown on the login window.21:01
Praet0riananyone use BitchX?21:02
D_Russiceroot:; so do i google that line21:02
tonywadei would like to download assualt cube what do i do?21:02
Polahtonywade: I see "AssaultCube" in the repos but no "AssultCube", is that perhaps what you're looking for?21:02
icerootPraet0rian: its no longer supported21:02
tonywadeyes thats it21:02
D_Russor is there a newbie dictionary for that error21:02
Praet0rianyea iceroot that stinks but I still use it21:02
rww!bitchx | Praet0rian21:02
ubottuPraet0rian: bitchx (also known as ircii-pana) was dropped from Debian and subsequently Ubuntu (see: http://dy.fi/afb). Consider using irssi or weechat instead.21:02
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rwwi.e., we don't support it here :P21:03
icerootD_Russ: does other usb hardware is also not available during that time of 3-5 minutes?21:03
Praet0rianubottu, yea, I noticed that a long time ago, just wanted to know if anyone uses it21:03
ubottuPraet0rian: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:03
D_Russi have not tested anything else21:03
ih20iWhere would I ask for help with LAMP?21:03
Praet0rianBAH!21:03
D_Russonly other item is the printer21:03
Praet0rianlol21:03
rwwih20i: here or #ubuntu-server21:03
icerootih20i: depending on the question21:03
Polahih20i: Here for Ubuntu, or #httpd, #php, #mysql for each part.21:03
IdleOnePraet0rian: keep to support in this channel if you are in the mood for chatting you are welcome to join #ubuntu-offtopic21:04
tonywadehow do u download the new edition of assaultcube?21:04
D_Russiceroot: only thing else is the printer. it works but i have not tested during the period that my KB and mouse dont work21:04
Polahtonywade: sudo apt-get install assaultcube21:04
icerootD_Russ: how often does it happen?21:04
ih20iI installed Apache2 before someone pointed me at lamp.  Then I grabbed that.  localhost works but myphpadmin doesn't.21:04
Praet0rianthanks for the tip IdleOne21:05
toddnineHi guys.  My ~/.xsession-errors.old was 1.2 T this morning.  Is there any way to turn off the logging to this file?21:05
D_Russiceroot: every restart without fail21:05
ih20iGuides online say to go to a directory that my computer doesn't have.  Should I remove all apache and start over? =\21:05
Praet0rianih20i, I have a nice solution for you21:05
icerootih20i: phpmyadmin needs to be enabled with "a2enmod21:05
Polahih20i: phpmyadmin you mean? Should be accessible through http://localhost/phpmyadmin if it's running21:05
tonywade? sorry im a newbe to this so if you could say that in simpler english that would be great21:05
D_Russiceroot: it works perfectly after that 3-5 minutes have passes21:05
D_Russwell almost perfectly21:05
icerootD_Russ: so its only at the start?21:05
Polahih20i: /var/www/phpmyadmin doesn't exist, but it should be there if you go through a browser21:05
Praet0rianiceroot, whay would you need that mod21:05
ih20iAhhh21:05
D_Russiceroot: yes21:06
Polahtonywade: Run the command: sudo apt-get install assaultcube    in a terminal, type in your password and hit y when it prompts you for y/n21:06
D_Russonly on reboot21:06
Praet0rianI do not believe thats neccessary when you use tasksel install lamp-server21:06
ih20iThat should get me there thanks.21:06
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Praet0rianih20i, just use tasksel21:06
Praet0rianwills et everything up fo ryou21:06
icerootPraet0rian: ih20i its not /var/www/phpmyadmin  its handled with an apache alias which is controled with a2enmode (also see /etc/apache2/sites-available/)21:06
icerootPraet0rian: wrong nick21:06
adwait_sharmaI'm planning to conduct a Ubuntu Party in my University21:06
icerootPolah: see above21:06
adwait_sharmacan someone tell me how can i get swags for it?21:06
Polahiceroot: I've done apt-get install phpmyadmin and had it run without needing to then enable it with apache21:06
Praet0rianiceroot, I know, all you ahve to do is edit hosts file and create a virtual host21:07
icerootPolah: hm on debian it needs to be enabled, maybe ubuntu is generating that symlink automaticly21:07
Praet0rianno need for any mod21:07
sogeking99hey guys, i have the visual boy advanced emulator of the software centre, my rom runs with a frame rate thats to high and sound is speeded up21:07
Polahiceroot: It was Ubuntu 10.04 the last time I set it up and phpmyadmin ran after just installing through apt21:07
Praet0rianI have this config running as we speak21:07
icerootPolah: but its not in /var/www  its a apache-alias21:07
adwait_sharma?21:08
Praet0rian/var/www is default virtual host btw21:08
Polahiceroot: I know there isn't any /var/www/phpmyadmin directory, I said it doesn't exist. But phpmyadmin is accessible through address/phpmyadmin21:08
icerootPraet0rian: again, you are missing the topic21:08
Praet0rianyea sorry21:08
Praet0rianused to chatting21:08
Praet0rianlol21:08
D_Russiceroot: i have a kvm hooked up aswell but i get the same problem on restart even if i plugg the KB & mouse up directly, i even tried a restart with them plugged in directly and no luck21:08
icerootPolah: correct21:08
PolahPraet0rian, edit hosts file? Apache sites are handled through the sites directory in /etc/apache221:09
icerootD_Russ: does the mouse get power? or the keyboard? are the leds on?21:09
Praet0rianPolah, I was referring to creating you OWN host instead of using localhost21:09
Praet0rianmuch easier21:09
icerootPraet0rian: virtualhost has nothing to do with localhost21:09
PolahPret0rian: Using another domaine name instead of "localhost"?21:10
Praet0rianI know iceroot21:10
Praet0rianlocalhost is defined in hosts file definig your machine21:10
Praet0rianalong with your host21:10
Praet0rianeg mine is singularity21:10
melroyI got a laptop with Nvidia optimus21:10
D_Russiceroot: the mouse is wireless so yes the light is on but the keyboard is usb powered and no the numlock light does not come on nor does the caps lock light furing that period21:10
icerootD_Russ: sounds like a hardware-issue for me21:11
Praet0rianPolah yes21:11
Praet0riananohter domain name21:11
Praet0rianANY one you want21:11
Webonauteanyone know the official chanel for OpenOffice?21:11
Praet0rianset it in hosts file in /etc than specify whatever domain you want21:11
icerootD_Russ: sounds like the usb ports are disabled and get no power21:11
melroyis there any news about nvidia optimus? So are nvidia and Ubuntu implementing nvidia optimus gfx cards?21:11
icerootWebonaute: #openoffice.org21:11
iceroot!alis | Webonaute21:11
ubottuWebonaute: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu*21:11
Praet0rianthen create a Virtual  host for that namebased VH21:11
Webonautety21:12
Praet0rianthat was to you polah21:12
Praet0rianI will be more than happy to walk you through in prvt21:12
D_Russiceroot: as in KB & mouse? or as in motherboard? only thing is that ubuntu is on a partition, and when i run windows on the other partition i have no issues. so there must be a setting in ubuntu thats not sending the dignal fast enough21:12
alphanobdyhello21:12
icerootD_Russ: ah ok interesting point with windows21:13
PolahPraet0rian: Sure, but that would only apply on the local computer would it not, thus just using http://localhost is fairly simple, without needing to set up another name. Other systems would still need to use the IP or a domain name provided by an actual DNS server.21:13
alphanobdycan anyone help me format a usb pen drive to fat 32            i only seem to have the optoin for fat and ext.....21:13
alphanobdywant to creat a bootable usb and says i need fat3221:13
mcmuffinI have two monitors that work fine, but they are on the same workspace. I want to be able to switch to any workspace on any screen. Using Gnome 2.32.1, have an nvidia card with the nouveau driver21:13
Praet0rianyes Polah, but what happens sometimes is that services screw up with locahost, and yes for local development only21:13
alphanobdyand i use anyother?21:13
Praet0rianPolah and also yes you will need DNS for a public domain21:13
Praet0rianbut still use Namebased virtual hsoting21:14
icerootD_Russ: i cant find any usefull results in google for error -100, only for error -7121:14
PolahPraet0rian: Never heard of services not being able to handle localhost, but for a private development server I don't see why you'd go through the effort of setting up a domain name rather than just typing localhost which is already there, or 127.0.0.1 which is fairly easy to remember21:14
Polahalphanobdy: What are you trying to boot from USB that requires FAT32?21:14
Praet0rianbecause polah, with localhost you are restricted to ONE directory of development21:15
Praet0rianpolah say I want multiple versions of app testing21:15
Praet0rianpolah, nice to have multitple points of testing21:15
D_Russiceroot: thanks for looking i appreciate the help21:15
Praet0rianimho21:15
icerootPolah: there is an application which handles 127.0.0.1 different then localhost (doesnt matter if there is 127.0.0.1 localhost in /etc/hosts) the application is mysql but for apache there is no difference21:15
alphanobdyPolah: BT5 but i read most any os will need to be on a fat32drive21:15
PolahPraet0rian: Oh, I see what you're saying now. Yes, I guess it would make sense to have multiple names pointing to multiple local sites.21:15
Praet0rianand alo if you are running an internal devel server, other users will need their own web directory21:15
tonywadepolah i cant get it to work21:16
Praet0rianhence multiple personalized domains for internal devel Poloah21:16
Praet0rianPolah **21:16
icerootD_Russ: sorry that i cant help more21:16
Praet0rianPolah, that is the real power of Vhosting ;-)21:17
Praet0rianProof of concept Polah is when running localhost, try to run Nessus, never work because you ahve to generate SSL cert21:17
atari2600ahey21:17
atari2600awhat's up with the ocelot wallpapers?21:18
tonywadepolah: i acnt get it to work21:18
D_Russiceroot: no problem thanks for attempting. if i lick this problem i will be sure to post it in the forums. Funnything is that it worked good when i first installed natty with wubi, then it started acting up in wubi, so i did a partition install and same problem.21:18
Polahalphanobdy: I assume you mean BackTrack 5? That's unsupported here, you could use any filesystem really. I believe FAT is recommended because it's non-journaling (I could be wrong) and widely supported by multiple OSes (Windows only supports NTFS and FAT natively, so anything like extX wouldn't be readable by default for example)21:18
Polahtonywade: What do you mean you can't get it to work?21:18
alphanobdyty Polah21:19
icerootD_Russ: sounds good with the forum21:19
icerootD_Russ: and the current system is a real installation on hardware?21:19
sogeking99hey guys, i have the visual boy advanced emulator of the software centre, my rom runs with a frame rate thats to high and sound is speeded up21:19
D_Russyes21:19
D_Russpartition install21:19
tonywadei ran the command but it anly shows up a load of gibberish21:19
NeedSomeHelphello21:20
D_Russiceroot: yes its currently a full install on a 100gb partition21:20
Praet0rianHi NeedSomeHelp21:20
tensorpuddingsogeking99: this isn't really a place for help with that21:20
tensorpuddingsogeking99: maybe check the forums or discussion page for that app21:20
Polahtonywade: That's apt reading packages and such like. The last line should be a prompt asking for confirmation to install as "y/n", enter y and it'll install21:20
triunenaturetest21:20
NeedSomeHelpI have installed Wine and a windows-program in ubuntu, and it works fine. But how can I run two instances of that windows-program? If I try to open a new instance of the win-app with wine, it just takes me to instance 1.21:21
Praet0rianNeedSomeHelp, multiple installes of Wine21:21
Polahtriunenature, 95/100, A*21:21
icerootD_Russ: ok21:21
NeedSomeHelpPraet0rian: how do i install another copy of Wine with synaptic ?21:21
icerootNeedSomeHelp: depending on the windows-program if it allows two instances21:22
Praet0rianNeedSomeHelp, you dont use synaptic, you use source21:22
triunenatureHey, when i plug in a ethernet cord into my laptop ( RJ-45 Cat53) My Nic doesn't light up at all.  I know the cord works, because it works with my other computers, and I know my network is up, because... well im talking in IRC...21:22
triunenaturecat5e*21:22
Praet0riantriunenature, no drivers21:22
Praet0rianmaybe lighs just burn out21:22
Gentoo64no drivers would mean it wouldnt work21:22
NeedSomeHelpiceroot: I think the win-program doesnt allow more than one instance (like many windows programs), but I want to bypass that somehow.21:22
Praet0rianGentoo64, yea I caught that21:23
Praet0riandid think he was using it21:23
NeedSomeHelpPraet0rian: please explain in more details :)21:23
Praet0riandidnt*21:23
icerootNeedSomeHelp: wine is not the problem, it can start more then one copy21:23
Gentoo64NeedSomeHelp, you cant install wine twice21:23
triunenatureMight i ask the obvious, how does one install drivers on ubuntu?  Second, i doubt its just the lights because nothing works when i plug it in.  wifi works great though21:23
rodriesphi, excuse me, when will the Beta 2 of 11.10 be released?21:23
Gentoo64and that would be a stupid workaround21:23
rodriesptoday?21:23
Praet0rianNeedSomeHelp, iceroot is correct, but I thought you wanted to run simultanious wine21:23
Praet0rianGentoo64, of course you can21:24
Praet0rianwant to see me do it in a video21:24
Gentoo64in different dirs21:24
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NeedSomeHelpI want to run simultanious two instances of the same windows-program that i'm running through wine21:24
Praet0rianNeedSomeHelp, then click on the app twice21:24
Gentoo64Praet0rian, your not even reading peoples questions, but answering lol21:24
Praet0rianOf course I am Gentoo6421:24
Gentoo64...21:25
triunenaturerodriesp, #ubuntu+1 is for future releases21:25
Praet0rianGentoo64, lets just be friends21:25
Praet0rian;-)21:25
ssmahey i want to use netflix in ubuntu and tells me that doe snot work21:25
NeedSomeHelpPraet0rian: I did, but the second time I try to open it (to open a second instance), it just takes me to the first instance21:25
Gentoo64trying to troll or something?21:25
rodriespoh, thanks triunenature, going there21:25
Praet0rianNeedSomeHelp, and easy way to run apps wine twice would be to type wine (app) from the command line21:26
Praet0rianthis shoudl create a seperate process21:26
NeedSomeHelpPraet0rian: tried, no luck21:26
Gentoo64NeedSomeHelp, what app is it anyway?21:27
Praet0rianNeedSomeHelp, just open terminal and goto your windows wine folder, find the notepad exe and type wine notepad21:27
IdleOneNeedSomeHelp: maybe ask in #winehq21:27
Praet0rianif you want to run notepad that it21:27
Praet0rianis*21:27
Praet0rianNeedSomeHelp, I do not think that you are correctly doing this lol21:27
dashavooanyone know what ports need to be open for video / sound to work with jabber in empathy?21:28
Praet0riandashavoo, http://linuxcrunch.com/content/how-use-empathy-messenger21:29
Praet0riancontains ports21:29
LmAtMy system menu is gone, how do I get it back?21:29
LmAtThe launcher is there, but it's not as helpful I think.21:29
otakssma: Never tried but I heard that too on klaatu's podcast.21:30
Praet0rianLmAt, what WM you using21:30
Praet0rianUnity, Gnome straight?21:30
Chlorekhi there21:30
LmAtPraet0rian, How do I find out?21:30
ChlorekI need some opinions about 11.421:30
Praet0rianLmAt, well what verions of ubuntu21:31
Gentoo64LmAt, did it have the bar on the side?21:31
dashavooPraet0rian: I can't see the bit about ports on there, any hints about where in the page?21:31
LmAtGentoo64, Yes, I have the bar on the side.21:31
Gentoo64unity then21:31
LmAtGentoo64, I did something to make the bar show up, and I want it to go away.21:31
Gentoo64LmAt, at login choose classic21:31
Gentoo64from a dropdown box21:31
LmAtGentoo64, Thanks.21:31
LmAtGentoo64, There is no such list.21:32
LmAtGentoo64, oh21:32
LmAtGentoo64, I think I see it at the bottom.21:32
Praet0riandashavoo, are you trying to configure router or firewall21:32
LmAtGentoo64, Jackpot!  You can not know how excited I am!21:32
Gentoo64cool21:33
Praet0rianGentoo64, was he using unity21:33
Gentoo64yes21:33
Praet0rianahh21:33
Praet0rianjust curious21:33
Gentoo64why the hell are they even continuing development of unity if everyone hates it21:34
dashavooPraet0rian: router21:34
Praet0rianGentoo64, I like unity21:34
dashavoowell, router's firewall21:34
Praet0rianlol21:34
macer1Gentoo64: use something else21:34
Gentoo64i dont use unity21:34
Gentoo64just saying21:34
Praet0riandashavoo, have you tried DMZ on your router to see if you got things setup corretly to run?21:34
r3pekhey guys, what's the correct way to request a version bump to a package?21:34
Gentoo64the majority of people just want it gone21:34
Praet0rianGentoo64, I like the quick search21:34
PolahGentoo64: Because not everyone hates it. Use whatever DE you want, you're not forced to use it.21:34
dashavooPraet0rian: I was just thinking about doing that, I'll come back if I still need help ;), thanks21:35
Praet0riannp21:35
Praet0riancrap I should have told him about TCP view to see outgoing ports21:36
dashavooPraet0rian: tell me now21:36
Praet0rianI forgot is wireshark shows ports or not21:36
Praet0rianhang on lemme check something21:36
anth0nyI'm having trouble scp'ing some files, I keep getting "scp: ambiguous target" even though I know the path is right.  here's the command: scp -r /home/anthony/Music/Al\ Green tony@server.com:/My\ Music/ . I know the directory /My\ Music/ is there (although it's a symlink) and the command works as scp -r /home/anthony/Music/Al\ Green tony@server.com:21:37
Praet0rianYES dashavoo21:37
Praet0rianget wireshark and run your stuff, it will tell you waht ports are attempting ot be used21:37
dashavooPraet0rian: good idea, thanks21:37
Praet0riannp21:37
yeatsanth0ny: try rsync21:38
Praet0rianremember to run as sudo21:38
dashavooPraet0rian: I know ;)21:38
Praet0rian;-)21:38
Gentoo64should be run as its own user tbh21:38
Praet0rianGentoo64, is right but for quick stuff...well up to you21:38
dashavooyeah, I can never be bothered21:39
Praet0riandashavoo, give me root, lets test that theory21:39
Praet0rianheheh21:39
anth0nyyeats: yeah?  i mean, this is well within the purpose of scp, why use rsync?21:39
dashavooPraet0rian: haha, nah. Don't think I will ;)21:39
* Praet0rian used rsync quite a bit21:39
Praet0rianlittle not about rsync, IT DOES NOT maintain permissions21:40
propmananth0ny:   have you tried putting quotes around the directory path.  the spaces in the path you quoted above may be the cause of the problem21:40
yeatsanth0ny: propman is right - the spaces in the dir names are probably the issue - rsync is my preferred way of doing what you're doing, but that's up to you21:41
anth0nypropman: Bingo!  that did it, thanks!21:41
anth0nyyeats: I'll take a look at rsync, not familiar with it21:41
Gentoo64lol the backslashes always get people21:42
cdavisDoes the deja dup schedule require that I keep deja-dup running?21:42
propmananth0ny:  good to hear :)21:42
yeatsanth0ny: basic usage: 'rsync -av /sourcepath /destinationpath'21:42
maujhsnCan somebody please answer this question: Can a package from ubuntu 11.10 be downloaded and run in ubuntu 10.04?21:43
jribmaujhsn: sometimes, but you should never do so.  Why do you want to know?21:43
Praet0rianmaujhsn, I dont see why not21:43
dashavoomaujhsn: it might work, it might not21:43
PolahPraet0rian, there's a flag to keep permissions.21:43
Praet0rianPolah, SH** lol21:43
Praet0riandidnt know that21:43
PolahPraet0rian: --perms or -p I believe (:21:44
Praet0rianwas syncing a solaris box21:44
maujhsn jrib i was given bad advice!21:44
Praet0rianomg thats awesome21:44
jribmaujhsn: ?21:44
PolahPraet0rian, also flags to keep owner and group21:44
Praet0riancool Polah21:44
Praet0rianPolah, yea that would be correct cept sync with Solaris, not same users or perms21:44
kylefoxI need to enable multiverse -- I know how to do it manually (editing /etc/apt/sources.list) but I'm wondering if there's a way I can automate it through a script21:46
Praet0riankylefox, sure21:47
Praet0riankylefox, easy shell script to echo your text to the sources list21:47
maujhsnCan somebody please answer this question: Can a package from ubuntu 11.10 be downloaded and run in ubuntu 10.04? If the repository is added to the sources list?21:47
Praet0rianmaujhsn, they already answered that21:48
kylefoxPraet0rian: oh ... I never thought of that21:48
Praet0rian;-)21:48
maujhsnOK21:48
kylefoxjust `echo <source> >> file`21:48
Praet0riankylefox, it depends what shell you're using21:48
Praet0rianbash?21:49
Praet0riancash. zsh?21:49
Praet0riancsh*21:49
Element9how can I minimize the Empathy to the indicator applet or anywhere in the panels?21:49
Praet0rianclick X Element921:50
Praet0rianwill not close it21:50
Element9Praet0rian: oh, it closed it :)21:52
Praet0riankylefox, to send text to a file simply do this: echo '<string>' >> <filename>21:52
Praet0rianElement9, sorry thought you were using Unity21:52
Praet0rianUnity will minimize21:52
wm4eohi21:53
Element9click on X on Contact List window of the Empathy will minimize it to indicator applet but not on window with chat rooms21:53
Element9Any way to do it on 10.10?21:53
wm4eocan any body help me with voice problem in ubuntu?21:53
Praet0rianElement9, sry not sure on that one21:54
Praet0rianwm4eo, just ask your question21:54
Element9Praet0rian: ok, no problem. thanks21:54
wm4eothe microphone is not working21:54
Praet0riannp21:54
RnaGwahahelllo anyone knows whats the brazilian ubuntu chan?21:54
wm4eonot in skype not in yahoo not in any ware21:55
Praet0rianwm4eo, open your sound settings and see what your input device is21:55
triunenatureSo i asked eariler, but if my NIC driver isn't working, how can i install/reinstall my NIC driver?21:55
wm4eoinfact i am from windows now but i did and its not changing21:56
Praet0riantriunenature, how do you know your driver isnt working21:56
triunenatureI don't for sure.  What I do know it, that the lights on my NIC don't light up when i plug in my cable, and i know my cable is good21:56
triunenatureRJ-45 Cat5e21:57
wm4eoi've put external microphone and no one worked21:57
ikoniatriunenature: the lights would come on even without a driver, or OS21:57
ikoniatriunenature: if the lights are not coming on it's either a.) hardware issue b.) hardware issue at the other end c.) cable21:57
Polah!br | RnaGwaha21:57
ubottuRnaGwaha: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.21:57
Praet0rianwm4eo, try other things21:58
wm4eolike what?21:58
triunenaturewell, since when i plug the same cable into other computers, it lights up, I can assume both b and c are void21:58
triunenatureThat leaves me with hardware issue...21:58
Praet0rianwm4eo, there are no other options in the dropdown?21:58
Praet0rianto tell you the truth I still dont have a working MIC on my old Toshiba, but My alienware M17x works fine21:59
wm4eoi tryed every one nothing changed i even format my labtop and reinstel it and its not working22:00
Praet0rianwm4eo, have you tried the MIC port22:00
wm4eoyep22:00
HobartWhat channel would be appropriate for issues seen when testing out Oneric on MacTel hw ?  (liveCD hangs)22:00
triunenatureikonia, any idea on how to confirm hardware issues?22:00
Praet0rianwm4eo, you have no internal MIC?22:00
rwwHobart: #ubuntu+122:00
Hobartrww -> thx22:00
Terabytewhat's wrong with this upstart script pair? http://pastebin.com/eJDHK1a122:00
wm4eoi have one and i use it every day in my windows 722:00
Terabytememcached script won't autostart22:00
ikoniatriunenature: well, is ubuntu the only OS on this machine ?22:01
soulfulstruthello22:01
triunenatureYeppers22:01
ikoniatriunenature: does lights light up on the other end (switch ?)22:01
Praet0rianwm4eo, heres the thing, if you only have the INTErNAL selection in your sound settings, it would assume you are using that and not external22:01
ikoniatriunenature: do you have any other machines around ?22:01
triunenatureI have about 30 machines around, im in an office ;)22:02
Praet0riancan you listen to audio via headphones wm4eo22:02
sysRPLhello22:02
ikoniatriunenature: grab one and patch into that same port with that same cable, do the lights come on ?22:02
datastream_ohi22:02
ikoniatriunenature: is that a big deal to test ?22:02
wm4eono i cant listen from the headphones22:02
triunenatureHowever I don't know where the telecom closet is, and i wouldn't have access to the switch.22:02
Praet0rianwm4eo, then the sound card is not working properly22:02
triunenatureYes, when i plug the same cable into any of the other computers, the lights come up22:02
ikoniatriunenature: hardware problem22:03
otak /goto home22:03
ikoniatriunenature: lights = dumb, just a cable terminated at both ends, no OS, no anything,22:03
wm4eobut the sound out from the laptob speakers and i can hear it its just from the headphone i cant22:03
ikoniatriunenature: if other computers are working, and this one computer isn't even getting any lights, I'd put a lot of money on a hardware issue22:03
wm4eobut any way how can i instel it?22:03
Praet0rianwm4eo, the sound card handles your external ports also22:04
Terabytewhat's wrong with this upstart script pair? http://pastebin.com/eJDHK1a1 the memcached one doesn't start after the ufw one22:04
wm4eohow can i find a driver for it?22:04
Praet0rianwm4eo, get your sound card model and check manufactuer or search google for same issue22:04
triunenatureikonia: really... see i suspected the same, i just don't want my poor computer to be dying..... Is there any software test to confirm what we both know/suspect?22:04
Praet0rianwm4eo, have to know your hardware if you're using linux just a tip22:04
ikoniatriunenature: you've pretty much just confirmed it22:04
triunenature:(22:05
wm4eodo u have any spicific website for that?22:05
sysRPLcan someone please offer me some advice? i bought a new wireless router to upgrade from G to N but my ubuntu computer wireless only went from 54 MB/s to 65 MB/s ... not the performance increase i was expecting .... i've googled this problem and am exhausted ... what settings/software updates can i try to improve my MB/s rating?22:05
Praet0rianwm4eo, I do not know your manufacturer I cannot in any way know a web site for you22:05
triunenatureikonia: I'd perfer a program that outputs, "Yep your Network Interface Card is broken"22:06
Praet0riansearch your laptop model22:06
Praet0rianthis iwll give you harware spec22:06
ikoniatriunenature: that's not going to happen22:06
wm4eoits realtak one second and i'll give u the model22:06
Praet0riansysRPL, is your card an N card?22:06
Praet0rianor still G22:06
triunenatureikonia: Yea life never has been that simple.  Ironically enough, wifi still works without a hitch on the machine22:06
Praet0rianwm4eo, I am not going to do your research for you LoL, I am simply pointing you in the right direction22:07
yaccAny one here has experience with SATA? http://pastebin.com/LGASzQbv My Ubuntu (10.04LTS) seems to force the SSD down into SATA1 1.5Gbps mode.22:07
sysRPLPraet0rian: Atheros AR9285 802.11b/g/n22:07
Praet0rianyacc, sry have solid state here22:07
Praet0riansysRPL, does your router have the 100MBs burts setting?22:08
Praet0rianI mean 108MB22:08
wm4eosorry bro i thought u know a good web to get a drivers for linux will thank u and i have another problem if u r ok with it22:08
sysRPLPraet0rian: it's a linksys E200022:08
sysRPLPraet0rian: i'm not sure, let me see22:08
Praet0riansysRPL, look at doc22:08
wm4eoi get the kget and its working with firefox22:08
Praet0rianor simply login and look22:08
cntbLook at windows 8 blocking dual boot concern http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/will-windows-8-block-users-from-dual-booting-linux-microsoft-wont-say/10772?tag=nl.e55022:09
sysRPLPraet0rian: it has a frame burst radio button with enabled/disabled ... the value is set to enabled22:09
Praet0riansysRPL, I have a testing solution for you22:09
ikoniacntb: why is that anything to do with this channel ?22:09
Praet0riansysRPL, I can't believe I am going to suggest this but create a Virtual Machine with Windows XP22:09
Polahyacc: Are you sure your SSD is connected to a SATAII/I connector?22:10
triunenaturecntb:  Just as a word of advice, linux guys will always outsmart windows guys.  So fear not22:10
cntbikonia majority are dual booting22:10
wm4eoman did u get my question?22:10
Praet0riansysRPL, test there22:10
sysRPLPraet0rian: ty ... btw i am on a windows computer right now22:10
kasi_does anyone know a good grammar checker besides openoffice for linux?22:10
Praet0rianwm4eo, sorry didnt get it22:10
ikoniacntb: is anyone in this channel asking for help dual booting windows 8 with Linux ?22:10
cntbtriunenature right22:10
Praet0riansysRPL, XP?22:10
sysRPLPraet0rian: yes22:10
cntbikonia ok22:10
wm4eoi have the kget and its not working with firefox22:10
ikoniacntb: thank you22:10
Praet0rianwm4eo, I do not use kget22:11
cntbare you asking me to apologize? I do22:11
wm4eowhat is the best downloader ?22:11
Praet0riansysRPL, do you have an alternate card?22:11
Praet0rianwm4eo, firefox has its own download manager22:11
ikoniacntb: no, I said thank you as in "thank you for understanding"22:11
Praet0rianworks fine22:11
cntbStill it sounds a bit of concern and people should know to stick to dual boot with older versions that;s all22:11
Praet0riansysRPL, wait a min, your on windows and asking in a Linux forum? LoL22:12
wm4eoi know but i need one like internet download maneger in windows do u have one like that?22:12
sysRPLPraet0rian: the ubuntu is a close nettop box i use for my entertainment center pc ... i have alternbate wireless USB sticks ... but they are all wireless G22:12
Praet0riandual boot windows 8 will NOT work, already tested22:12
cntb i hope you accept my concern and will to share here22:12
yaccPolah, yeah, the connector was used before with the hdd that moved down the food chain to SATA connector num.2 on the MB, and then it did easily enough 3.0Gbps. The motherboard does 3.0Gbps with other 3 hdd connected to it just now. And the SSD is a SATA3 capable one, and the instruction leaflet does not mention any jumpers or so.22:12
ikoniacntb: 1.) it's not confirmed - so you're spreading rumour 2.) it's not released so no-one is using it at this time and things can change before release 3.) this channel is not about discusing future possabilities with windows, it's for current ubuntu support22:12
Praet0riansysRPL, install virtual ubuntu into VMware22:12
sysRPLPraet0rian: i am on my windows computer because it's hard to read/type on the entertainment center computer (ubuntu)22:12
cntbikonia Praet0rian says tested22:13
Praet0riansysRPL, thats what SSH is for and text based IRC clients LoL22:13
ikoniacntb: that doesn't make it fact, please stop discussing it22:13
Praet0rianit is a fact22:13
Praet0rianwant a video22:13
Praet0rianlol22:13
ikoniaPraet0rian: no - it's not22:13
sysRPLPraet0rian: i can putty into the computer22:13
ikoniaPraet0rian: no, I don't want a video22:13
Praet0rianhow much you wanna bet22:13
cntbok ikonia and why not prevent getting into trouble with our ubuntu install in the future?22:13
soulfulstrutcan someone please tell me how to find the chat rooms22:13
PolahsysRPL: PuTTY is SSH22:13
ikoniaPraet0rian: do you own Microsoft Windows 8 final retail release ?22:13
cntbnever mind22:14
sysRPLPolah: i know22:14
wm4eowhat is the best download maneger in ubuntu 11.04?22:14
Polahyacc: If you're sure it's on a SATAII(I) connector, then it could be a firmware issue with the drive22:14
Praet0rianikonia, I have the next build after devel provided by my MS partners22:14
Polahwm4eo: Most browsers have their own download manager. You can use wget from the command line to download files.22:14
Polah!best | wm4eo22:14
ubottuwm4eo: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.22:14
Praet0rianthere will only be one other build which is final22:14
ikoniaPraet0rian: do you own Microsoft Windows 8 final retail release ?22:14
ikoniaPraet0rian: do you own Microsoft Windows 8 final retail release ?22:14
Praet0rianikonia, please listen22:14
cntbone more word and you will consider me a tr -oll and I dont wnat that .Have a nice day all22:14
Praet0rianI am trying to help22:14
sysRPLikonia: windows 8 is not final, but you already knew that22:15
Praet0rianikonia, I have the next to last build, the final build WILL NOT CHANGE the boot process22:15
Praet0riancase closed22:15
wm4eok thank u guys22:15
ikoniaPraet0rian: no - you do not have the facts of the final retail release, microsoft have not confirmed them, so please stop spreading information that is not confiemd22:15
Praet0rianikonia, I do have the facts22:15
ikoniasysRPL: exactly the point.22:15
Praet0rianould you also like to speak to a MS developer22:15
Praet0rianI can arrange22:15
sysRPLnot to get side tracked, but windows 8 looks to be full of fail ... and that is coming from a windows developer22:16
bl4ckcombMS Dev rocks22:16
ikoniaPraet0rian: you do not have Microsoft Windows 8 final release, and Microsoft have not confirmed this limitation, so it's not fact, it's your view of a current development build that may/may not be fact.22:16
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Praet0rianikonia, I will say this one more time, the final release of windows 8 will NOT in any way change its booting process22:16
Praet0rianwe can see when its released22:16
sysRPLanyhow ... can anyone help me improve my wirless N receive rate?22:16
ikoniaPraet0rian: do you work for Microsoft ?22:16
Praet0riangood enough22:16
Praet0rian?22:16
Praet0rianikonia, yes22:17
Praet0rianI do22:17
Praet0riando you22:17
FloodBot1Praet0rian: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:17
ikoniaPraet0rian: it may well be the case when it's release, but until that time, it is not fact and it is not helpful to misslead people22:17
ikoniaPraet0rian: you don't work for microsoft, you just said you got it for a partner, please don't lie22:17
Praet0rianikonia, I am giving you the best information based on the facts at hand22:17
ikoniaPraet0rian: the best information based on the current development build your using, that is not the final build,22:17
Praet0rianand as I said partner I meant my testers22:17
sysRPLyou're22:17
ikoniaPraet0rian: yeah yeah.22:18
Praet0rianikonia, ok lets do this22:18
ikoniaPraet0rian: I don't want/need to do anything.22:18
Praet0rianlets wait and see then we can discuss ok?22:18
ikoniaPraet0rian: I don't want/need to discuss it22:18
Praet0rianapparently you do22:18
Praet0rianotherwise you ould have stopped tqalking22:18
Praet0rian;-)22:18
ikoniayou may be right, but at this time of writing, it is not fact, so please don't give out information.22:18
J28yoh, pick me, me, I wan't to discuss it too!!22:18
bl4ckcombPraet0rian, weren't ms employees forbidden to use the name "windows 8", apart from balmer, who screwed up during some talk?22:18
Praet0rianfair enough22:18
Praet0rianbl4ckcomb, I am not aware of any such rule, but thats not to say it doesnt exist22:19
Praet0rianI use linux I hate windows22:19
bl4ckcombI know, don't point out the obvious22:19
Praet0rianbl4ckcomb,  no need to be rude22:19
Praet0rianjust answering22:19
bl4ckcomb:p22:20
yaccPolah, so you are surely happy to know that I upgrade to the newest OCZ firmware just today?22:20
bl4ckcombPraet0rian, what's your role in MS?22:20
IdleOne!windows22:20
ubottuFor discussion on Microsoft software, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents22:20
Polahyacc: Well, that could be the issue then. Has the drive not functioned properly since the upgrade?22:20
yaccPolah, as you can see from paste, I've also tried to force it to 3.0Gbps, but it downgraded the connection itself.22:20
bl4ckcombIdleOne, I'm discussing Praet0rian22:21
Praet0rianc++ developer and winAPI QA bl422:21
bl4ckcombPraet0rian, c++ dev for the WinAPI ?22:21
Praet0rianno bl4ckcomb22:21
bl4ckcombwhat part then or just general ?22:21
Praet0rianWinAPI QA22:22
IdleOnebl4ckcomb: this is an Ubuntu support channel. Please stick to the topic.22:22
yaccPolah, no it did the same thing before (although I haven't tried to force it on boot into 3.0Gbps, but it defaulted to 1.5Gbps while all other drives use 3.0Gbps), as OCZ has claimed the SMART warnings that one had to ignore are gone.22:22
Polah!offtopic | Praet0rian bl4ckcomb22:22
ubottuPraet0rian bl4ckcomb: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:22
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Praet0rianbl4ckcomb, c++ for porting apps to MS use22:22
Praet0rianIm done lol22:22
Praet0rianhad to answer him22:22
IdleOneno you didn't now stop.22:22
bl4ckcombah k (done too) :]22:22
Polahyacc: Hmm, I don't really know then. Perhaps call up OCZ, or ask in #hardware.22:22
gnomieshould i remove flash before updating the installer [flashpplugin-installer 10.3.183.10ubuntu0.11.04.1]22:23
bl4ckcombdo ssd's work ootb for ubuntu?22:23
TheEvilPhoenixPolah:  s/#hardware/##hardware/22:23
bl4ckcomb*SSDs22:23
yaccWow, Google already has my paste from 12 minutes ago, ...22:23
Praet0riangnomie, wont hurt to update22:23
PolahTheEvilPhoenix, huh?22:23
TheEvilPhoenixPolah:  the channel isn't #hardware  -  its ##hardware22:24
TheEvilPhoenixit might still forward, but meh22:24
PolahTheEvilPhoenix: Oh. #hardware forwards for me.22:24
suniceAfter that way off topic conversation about Win 8 some people should check out this poster http://gizmodo.com/5838803/whats-your-internet-dick-level22:24
suniceSorry I know still off topic22:24
rwwsunice: so why did you say it?22:24
Praet0rianIf anyone is interested also, I have some procedures to tether android to Ubuntu22:24
TheEvilPhoenix!offtopic > sunice22:24
ubottusunice, please see my private message22:24
Praet0rianwow you guys argure about topic more then my 2600 crew22:25
kensumHello everyone; If I put in a new motherboard, cpu, and ram, can I then reconect my drives and boot into ubuntu? Will it reconfigure the new hardware?22:25
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c4pthi i am having problems with audio        i have 4 different audio devices       snd-usb , snd-emu10k1 (usb and creative pci) and i have also hdmi audio and ALC onboard audio (these two devices use snd-hda-intel)22:26
Praet0rianunreal22:26
c4ptis this right options snd-usb-audio index=-222:26
c4ptoptions snd-emu10k1 index=-222:26
c4ptoptions snd-pcm index=022:26
c4ptoptions snd-hda-intel=022:26
CombatjuanHello.  What things can the DISPLAY variable be set to such that I can open a GUI application from a tty?22:26
FloodBot1c4pt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:26
yaccPolah, fascinating detail, seems because I forced it and it switched back, the SSD was slower than the HDDs registering itself, and it moved from /dev/sda to /dev/sdd => I feel so happy that we've started using LVM or UUIDs, I remember when such a thing could upset the whole system back then ;)22:27
Meluhaguys my playonlinux never detects an internet connection. any leads?22:27
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J28yPraet0rian: you don't increase your credibility by sta22:27
bl4ckcombsta?22:28
Praet0rianJ28y, I've helped alot of people here22:28
J28yting more unprobable facts22:28
macer1does ubuntu display info on plymouth when coming from hibernate?22:28
muay-guyhello everyone, today I installed virtualenv, some python packages and python 2.7.2 and now every time I open a console I get the following message:22:28
Praet0rianJ28y, thats nonsense, yacc was talking harware, didnt see him booted22:28
muay-guyhttp://pastebin.com/UQTm9LS522:28
Polahkensum: RAM shouldn't be an issue, your processor may well be if it's a different architecture, motherboard may work generically but you may need to get additional drivers for some things like ethernet.22:29
sysRPLi am seeing a lot of google results for asking about only getting 65 MB/s out of their wireless N on various linux versions22:30
PolahPraet0rian, yacc was discussing why his drive isn't functioning properly. Stop with the petty arguments, if you want help or intend to actually help people then stay, if not: leave.22:30
sysRPLi am seeing a lot of google results with people asking about only getting 65 MB/s out of their wireless N on various linux versions22:30
sysRPL* corrected *22:30
Praet0riansysRPL, are there any solutins?22:30
sysRPLno22:30
Praet0riansysRPL, this did happen to me once, I got a new card and that fixed it22:31
sysRPLdoes anyone here have a working wireless N network? can you tell me you MB/s?22:31
sysRPLthis is a nettop pc22:32
Praet0riansysRPL, did you read this http://www.hitxp.com/articles/software/ubuntu-fix-slow-wireless-internet-connection-speed-upgrading-11-04-natty-narwhal/22:32
gnomieis it recommended to remove current flash before updating the installer [flashpplugin-installer 10.3.183.10ubuntu0.11.04.1]22:32
Praet0riangnomie, I had no issues with installing it over top22:32
Praet0riangnomie, it just replaces the flash libs22:33
kylefoxPraet0rian: I'm back :) I seem to be having permission issues with that multiverse thing you suggested: http://dpaste.com/619247/ -- any ideas?22:33
Praet0rianlet me look kylefox22:33
Praet0rianuse single quotes kylefox22:34
Praet0riankylefox, are you executing this as sh myScript?22:34
kylefoxyes, exactly22:34
kylefoxthe single quotes = same issue22:35
kasi_I get kernel crashes in ubuntu with autofs. Is this the right forum to report them?22:35
Praet0riankylefox, do this, create an empty file in your home, then run it22:35
Praet0riandont use sources yet22:35
MeluhaMy playonlinux never detects an internet connection....any leads?22:35
Praet0riankylefox, also just a tip if you don't want to use "sh" to execute, put !#/bin/bash in the file22:36
Praet0riankylefox, also would be wise to set that string as a variable then echo it to stdout to see if its correct22:37
PolahPraet0rian: Needs to be marked as executable as well. sh script.sh will run it even if it's not executable, script.sh on it's own requires it to be set to executable22:37
Praet0riankylefox, Polah is correct too, I assumed you set +x22:37
PolahPraet0rian, kylefox: I'd recommend using sh script.sh anyway because then it's run by by sh and doesn't require it to be set as executable beforehand22:38
kylefoxYes, I did chmod +x22:39
Praet0rianluck?22:39
Hobbes`I'm getting these dbus errors http://pastebin.com/tYee1HzR when I try to run bluez-simple-agent.. the bluetooth adapter is present and working using hcitool/sdptool/hciconfig etc22:39
Hobbes`but I can't paid any device because the agent won't work22:39
Hobbes`pair*22:39
Hobbes`also notice the errors are different when I run the agent as regular user and as root22:40
kylefoxno, this doesn't help :/22:40
Praet0riankylefox, did you do waht I said22:40
Praet0riankylefox, instead of the destination as the sources list, try to echo to a home directory file22:40
kylefoxI created an empty file and ran it ... and it did nothing (as one might expect)22:40
kylefoxoh, I see what you mean. I'll try22:41
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kylefoxyes, it works22:42
kylefoxalso22:42
kylefoxif I run `sudo su` and then run my echo command, it works22:42
Praet0riankylefox, for which one, home or sources?22:42
kylefoxsources22:43
kylefox(not running as a script though)22:43
Praet0riankylefox, ok so it works then22:43
Praet0rianOH22:43
Praet0rianoh you did from term22:43
Praet0rianinstead of script22:43
kylefoxie: this works: http://dpaste.com/619250/22:43
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kylefoxyep, running as terminal commands22:43
Praet0riankylefox, ok so we know the script is sound22:44
kylefoxhowever, the first example (http://dpaste.com/619247/) works neither from the terminal, nor from within the script22:44
Praet0riankylefox, what error do you get when you ran that first one22:44
Praet0rianpermission denied?22:44
kylefox-bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied22:44
kylefoxi actually have to run -- gotta get to class22:45
SIFTUkylefox: you are trying to run it as a normal user?22:45
kylefoxthanks for your help!22:45
w30Is 2 gig of memory insufficent for suspend function of Unity and Compiz?  Do I need more memory or perhaps a better graphics card? GForce  GO 730022:45
kylefox(yes)22:45
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Praet0riankylefox, you cannt run it as norm22:45
SIFTUkylefox: sudo will ask for a password22:45
Praet0rianSIFTU, he's already done that22:45
Praet0rianSIFTU, we are way ahead of that22:45
Praet0rianlol22:45
kylefoxi'm using a ubuntu EC2 ami, which doesn't appear to ask for passwords when doing sudo operations22:45
SIFTUPraet0rian: I came in late.. done what22:45
* kylefox is away22:46
Praet0riankylefox, then thats why you cant run it22:46
Praet0rianit needs to be setuid 022:46
teddyroosebelthowdy folks - is there any other alternatives to krecipe and grecipe for recipe software out there?22:46
MTProwerHiya awesome fun peeps. I need some basic Kubuntu help. I installed Kubuntu, but Windows still boots, with no boot options for Kubuntu or anything. How do I get Kubuntu to boot on startup?22:46
smwkylefox, ec2 is setup to not require a password for sudo22:46
Praet0riankylefox, you of course cannot write to protected files without root privs22:46
BashIs there a grub gui of some sorts? ran into confirmed bug on startupmanager on 11.0422:49
IbisIn comparison, would unity be better in performance compared to ubuntu classic?22:49
MTProwerHey, how do I get Kubuntu as a boot option on startup?22:50
nocilisIbis it ran slower on my machine22:50
joshyUsing intel HD graphics, my external display is very shaky at all resolutions.  Are there any known fixes?22:50
nocilisIbis Unity that is22:51
brightsparkMTPrower: If I recall correctly, when I did it, the option appears at the bottom of the login screen (at least on maverick)22:51
MTProwerbrightspark: what login screen?22:51
IbisUnity seems to be behaving rather well for me.22:52
nocilisIbis yes, my machine was not top of the line and Unity ran a bit slower22:52
IbisI'm only sad that I do not see unity icons on the left-side tray.22:52
brightsparkthe gnome session manager login screen.  I installed a kubuntu desktop as an alternative to my gnome one.22:52
brightsparkMTPrower: see my last22:53
IbisMy machine is super old. I'm talking about 8+ years.22:53
nocilisbrightspark that wouldn't be a boot option22:53
nocilisIbis yes, mine too22:53
MTProwerbrightspark: I think you misunderstood my question. When I start my computer, Windows automatically boots, with no option to boot Kubuntu22:53
nocilisIbis but mine was a netbook22:53
brightsparknocilis: yes, because the same kernel runs independent of the desktop choice22:54
brightsparkMTPrower: I did misunderstand your question, sorry.22:54
BashCan I flag a NTFS drive to NOT chkdsk (even if problems) when booting up through windows?22:54
nocilisbrightspark all desktops run on X, right?22:55
ChotazHow can I have 64 bits flash support on google chrome on ubuntu 11.04, right now whenever I try to watch an hd movie in fullscreen from youtube it just jumps and skips throughout the playback22:55
wildbatBash: no and why you wanna do that ? also ask in ##windows22:55
Meluhahey my playonlinux cant detect internet connection22:55
Meluhado i need to edit resolv.conf?22:56
GreekFreakHello. My ATI card is not supported. I have found this (http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/xorg-edgers?dist=natty#) but I'm not surewhich packages I need to install.22:57
dirtycookiehi I have a eeepc where I have the latest xubuntu installed. the eeepc has a sdmmc slot where I want to mount a sdcard I followed these instructions here http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=44013 and rebooted to make things take their effect. during booting  xubuntu offered me to "skip" the mounting proceedure. my question is how can I make it mount automatically my card22:57
Praet0rianMeluha, are you trying to run windows apps22:57
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MeluhaPraet0rian: yes22:57
Praet0rianMeluha, I would suggest VMware22:57
rwwGreekFreak: read https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa22:57
brightsparknocilis: I'm not sure, but my guess is that those that don't are refew and far between22:58
MeluhaPraet0rian: i do have VM but i need office to be installed..its quicker than creating a shared folder and booting xp all the while22:59
Praet0rianMeluha, you dont need a shared folder22:59
Praet0rianMeluha, you install the entier windows OS22:59
GreekFreakrww, thank you but I have no idea what to do with that. Am I supposed to install them one by one? Are they included?23:00
rwwGreekFreak: If you read the whole page, it tells you.23:00
Praet0rianMeluha, then with vmware tools you simply drag it to the VM23:00
GreekFreakrww, thank you23:00
rwwGreekFreak: if you read the whole page and don't understand the instructions it gives, it's probably too unstable for you to be using it :\23:00
rwwxorg-edgers is a bit... crack.23:00
MeluhaPraet0rian:can u drag and drop ?23:01
Praet0rianMeluha, absolutely, when installing windows to VMWare it will install VMWare tools enabling you to drag and drop from your linux host23:01
BashCan someone tell me what seems to be the problem here? I have 3 disks as you can see and it's a bit messy, but trying to boot from sdc while having windows on sda, also have xforcevesa but all I get when booting is a blank screen with a blinking cursor.23:02
Bashhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/695359/23:02
MeluhaPraet0rian: hey thats cool. thanks a lot. but that again brings me back to the original question of using POL. i do wish to in future install various apps. how am i supposed to do it if POL doesnt have a list of softwares due to it not being able to get connected to the net?23:03
GreekFreakrww, I'm assuming that this is covered by including the repository. The sute I pasted, though, has some packages to install and I'm not sure which are needed23:03
Praet0rianMeluha, then we simply need to run through standard internet connection tests23:04
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Praet0rianMeluha, first check if you get an IP, if so, check an nslookup to check DNS23:05
Colourfulhi23:05
ColourfulI have an ATI GTX card23:05
Colourfulwhat's the easiest way to get two monitors working with it23:05
Colourfulit's a laptop with an extra display connected to it23:05
Colourfuland I would like to output a different worksace to the other display23:06
GreekFreakLet me rephrase my question: For xorg-edgers and an unsupported ATI card, could someone indicate which packages (other than "ati") I need from http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/xorg-edgers?dist=natty#  ?23:07
MeluhaPraet0rian: can i run nslookup in terminal?23:07
Praet0rianMeluha, yes nslookup google.com23:08
MeluhaPraet0rian:23:10
MeluhaPraet0rian:23:10
Praet0rianwhat23:10
MeluhaPraet0rian: yup its given me a couple of IP addresses23:10
Praet0rianthen you your internet is working properly23:10
xanguaGreekFreak: if you already read it and don't get it, better don't try it23:10
milki'm looking for an irc bouncer setup that can stream to me text (in either a generic irc client or a specific (gui, preferably) one) missed in certain channels whilst i'm not on at home, wondering if this possible?23:11
ColourfulI tried googling but all the guides are for old versions of ubuntu23:11
Praet0rianMeluha, you cannot have DNS working without IP, DefaultRoute23:11
Praet0rianso you obviously are good23:11
GreekFreakxanga: is there somewhere else I could read to learn about it? right now I'm booting linux with "nomodeset"23:11
GreekFreaksimply not doing it doesn't help. I need to learn it23:12
MeluhaPraet0rian: sorry?23:12
jwrigley?23:12
Praet0rianMeluha, hold on23:13
SIFTUmilk: most people run text based irc clients in screen sessions on 24x7 server and read over the logs23:13
* Praet0rian loves BitchX23:13
bindiirssi!23:14
Guest76357irssi!23:14
yeatsMeluha: irssi + screen: http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi23:14
SIFTUweechat for me, but all personal preference23:14
yeatsMeluha: sorry - meant for milk ;-)23:15
phelippeHello there, anyone can help me fix my quake 3 arena sound? i got this msg: /dev/dsp: No such file or directory23:16
phelippeCould not open /dev/dsp23:16
Meluhayeats: ;)23:16
milkSIFTU;  using screen is my second option, but i thought i'd ask about in case :)23:17
Praet0rianMeluha, are you saying for example a POL app like firefox cant get online?23:17
milkyeats; thanks, shall read up :)23:17
Praet0rianMeluha, Firefox for windos that is23:17
MeluhaPraet0rian: no not really. in POL u need to select the app from the lists, which u wish to install. but those lists are not being downloaded as POL doesnt deetect an internet connection.23:19
usr13phelippe: lsof |grep snd23:19
Praet0rianMeluha, its simply a wine frontend23:20
Praet0rianMeluha, let me check something23:20
mrdebis wine any good23:21
usr13phelippe: And then kill the pid23:21
usr13or pids23:21
phelippecan i paste here?23:21
angel56mrdeb: if it is aged properly23:21
usr13no23:21
Ibismrdeb: I personally would rather use virtualbox.23:21
SetiAmoncool23:21
usr13phelippe: lsof |grep snd | pastebinit23:21
SetiAmonI have perfect audio now23:21
mrdebwhats the difference23:21
SetiAmonwith my X-fi23:21
mrdebi read wine is very bad23:21
Praet0rianVMware better than virtual box23:21
Praet0rianimo23:21
phelippeusr13: here appear skype and npviewer use libsndfile23:22
Ibismrdeb: Especially if you have a lot of ram.            The difference is that you install "Real Windows" inside virtualbox.23:22
mrdebso tis bad23:22
mrdebis htat it23:22
IbisPraet0rian: What makes it better? I get many reports of people whining about the speed of VMWare.23:22
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MeluhaPraet0rian: http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/421-install-ms-office2007-on-ubuntu-using-playonlinux23:23
Praet0rianIbis, for one I can install MAC on it, 2 vmware tools makes things easier, and yes you need some ram, but nevertheless o run windows you will be using the same ram23:23
phelippehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/695375/23:23
xangua!appdb23:23
xanguamrdeb: depends of what program are you trying to run, we are not wizards to know that23:23
ubottuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help23:23
MeluhaPraet0rian: the site shows that MS office 07 is listed in the Office category.....but for me the category lists are empty23:24
Praet0rianMeluha, yea I am looking into it compiling irssi real quick23:25
phelippeusr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/695375/23:25
IbisPraet0rian: Is it free like Virtualbox?23:27
Praet0rianIbis, well...yea..for me, but no23:27
SIFTUPraet0rian: and you know virtualbox has virtualbox additions right.. like vmware tools23:28
Praet0rianSIFTU, yea I have used VB for a while23:28
Praet0rianprior to VMware23:28
Praet0rianSIFTU, try to install MAC on VirtualBOx and see how far you get lol23:29
SIFTUPraet0rian: and you know virtualbox can run Mac too, but only on a Mac due to the hardware check they have23:29
phelippeusr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/695375/23:29
Praet0rianWell that defeats the purpose for I run linux23:29
phelippeHello there, anyone can help me fix my quake 3 arena sound? i got this msg: /dev/dsp: No such file or directory - http://paste.ubuntu.com/695375/23:30
IbisPraet0rian: With Mac hardware? O_O23:30
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Praet0rianIbis, no23:30
Praet0rianIbis, Intel Arch23:30
IbisI sometimes wonder if Linux would run better on mac hardware.23:31
Praet0rianIbis, blashpemy23:31
Praet0rianhaha23:31
IbisOr if it's possible.23:31
Praet0rianIbis, I would not think so23:31
SIFTUIbis: it does work23:32
Praet0rianIbis, I have never tried so I cannot account for that question23:32
nocilisyes, I know a guy that dual-boots linux and osx on a mac23:32
MonkeyDustanyone who has heard of and knows a solution for the kworker bug? http://askubuntu.com/questions/33640/kworker-what-is-it-and-why-is-it-hogging-so-much-cpu23:32
Praet0rianI would have thought the hardware was too different23:32
IbisSIFTU: Oh cool. Does it seem to run any better? I heard mac hardwares are better than PC ones.23:33
nocilispraet0rian linux has been ported everwhere23:33
jorge__hey I install ubuntu with windows 7 and it loads ubuntu but does not load windows23:33
Praet0riannocilis, thats cool to know, I just would never buy a mac period23:33
SIFTUIbis: it's no better, same parts.. some people like to think it's better build quality etc23:33
nocilispraet0rian me neither, too expensive for what you get23:33
nocilisjorge__ which did you install first?23:33
jorge__can any body tell me what can i do23:34
IbisAnd I thought I read something about mac hardware where it actually uses all harddrive/ram space.23:34
Praet0rianjorge__, you can boot windows from Grub23:34
MonkeyDustanyone who has heard of and knows a solution for the kworker bug? http://askubuntu.com/questions/33640/kworker-what-is-it-and-why-is-it-hogging-so-much-cpu23:34
jorge__i do it but it does the same thing (praet0rian )}23:34
jorge__i tell me and erro message23:34
Praet0rianjorge__, you must be sure that your windows partition is active and bootable23:34
nocilisjorge__ what sort of message?23:35
jorge__and how do i make sure is active23:35
Praet0rianjorge__, have you installed linux before?23:35
jorge__erro 0xc000022523:35
guerrilhamy wireless connection keeps asking my password, how do i fix this so it only asks me the first time?23:36
guerrilhai mean, when i boot up the cpter i have to insert the passwrd again23:36
guerrilhabut i stay connected23:36
nocilisjorge__ I just googled that and it looks like a very common problem23:36
nocilisjorge__ probably because bios is out of date?23:36
Praet0rianguerrilha, that happened to me once, I did never resolve that issue23:37
nocilistry checking for an APIC setting in the bios options jorge__23:37
guerrilhaits getting annoying23:37
nocilisjorge__ you have to enable APIC it looks like23:37
SIFTUguerrilha: do you autologin?23:37
Praet0rianguerrilha, I searched for days for a solution to that never did find it23:37
Praet0rianI just compiled irssi and I cannot find the damn binary for the life of me23:38
BashJust wondering, is there a reason why Gnome is no longer the default wm?23:38
nocilisPraet0rian find piped to grep?23:38
Praet0rianyea I was going to do that but I figured someone would know off hand23:39
nocilisfind | grep -e "irssi"23:39
rwwBash: GNOME is not a WM. GNOME with modifications is the default desktop environment for Ubuntu, and always has been. The difference you're probably talking about is that it now uses Unity as a shell instead of GNOME Panel or GNOME Shell.23:39
xanguaBash: unity runs on top of gnome23:39
guerrilhano SIFTU , this ubuntu has 3 users23:39
Praet0riannocilis, actually find /dir -name file works23:39
MeluhaPraet0rian: any leads?23:39
SIFTUguerrilha: I suspect something to do with the gnome keyring23:39
nocilisPraet0rian more elegant, I'll remember that thx23:39
Praet0riannp nocilis23:39
Bashrww: Right. Just wondered if there's any drawbacks to using gnome3 vs unity as it is the default one23:39
rwwBash: GNOME 3 isn't supported on current versions of Ubuntu ( <= 11.04). It should work fine on 11.10 when it comes out.23:40
Praet0rianMeluha, let me get irssi working here real quik23:40
Bashrww: Thanks.23:40
Praet0rianI could just make isntall it but I dont like to put apps in my bin23:40
brightsparkrww: it ran fine for me on maverick...23:40
* nocilis is using irssi to type this :)23:40
Praet0riannocilis, eat me lol23:41
ChotazHey everyone I'm using 'sudo update-rc.d ushare defaults' to make the ushare daemon start everytime I boot my computer, but I need ushare to run with some adicional params, how can I run update-rc.d and pass those params to the rule?23:41
flodine11.10 so ugly23:41
nocilisPraet0rian why not just sudo apt-get install irssi?23:41
MonkeyDustirssi rules23:41
Praet0riannocilis, repositories are always out of date23:41
Anarchy7how can I open a port whats the command?23:41
Praet0rianlatest build is src23:41
nocilisMonkeyDust I liked it once I figured out the alt-arrowkey command23:41
rwwbrightspark: Are you conflating GNOME 3 and GNOME Shell?23:41
Ibisnocilis & MonkeyDust: WeeChat is better. ;)23:41
guerrilhai found here that i can delete it from my .gnome folder, ill give a shot23:41
nocilisIbis is it console-based?23:41
IbisYes.23:41
Praet0rianI ran Bitchx forever23:41
Praet0rianbut someone on here convinced me to try irssi23:42
IbisLookies: http://www.weechat.org/screenshots/23:42
IbisI used to use irssi myself as well.23:42
nocilisIbis looks a whole lot like irssi, anything to set it apart?23:42
Praet0rianHA23:42
Praet0rianthere that little bugger is23:42
Ibishttp://www.weechat.org/screenshots/weechat_2009-07-06_bonzodog.png23:43
Praet0rian/home/praetorian/Apps/irssi/src/fe-text/irssi for furure reference23:43
SIFTUnocilis: it has multiple languages supported for scripts and has easier config files etc23:43
IbisHow it handles user list, multi network is easier.23:43
brightsparkrww: perhaps I am.  you are probably correct23:43
nocilisIbis SIFTU shows people in channel at top, I like23:43
Ibisnocilis: I didn't even know it can do that. It attracted my eyes.23:44
Praet0rianhahah I love it when apps tell you to RTFM when you first rin em23:44
nocilisRTFM? Praet0rian23:45
Praet0rianumm23:45
Praet0rianRead the fuc*** manual23:45
IbisRead the *Explodes Ubuntu channel* :OOO23:45
MonkeyDustPraet0rian: if everything else fails, then RTFM23:45
nocilisPraet0rian lol hadn't heard that one23:45
Praet0rianwow23:45
IbisOr it means: Read the Fine Manual.23:45
gnomie#ubuntu-offtopic for general chat23:45
Praet0rianI heard that alot hen I first started using linux 10 years ago23:45
nocilisRead the fruitcakin' manual23:45
gnomiealso, this isn't i.m.23:46
IbisPraet0rian: Same here, except I didn't use this 10years ago. (I was tiny o_O)23:46
flodinebe nice ubuntu has nice users23:46
Praet0rianwell Mr Praetorian is going to sign on with irssi WITHOUT READING THE MANUAL23:46
flodineLOL23:46
elkyLets not.23:46
elkyLets go back to actual support discussion.23:46
nociliscurious about the nick praet0rian23:47
Praet0riannocilis, ask away23:47
nociliswhy?23:47
elkyAsk in #ubuntu-offtopic23:47
BashIf grub should fail because of wonky ATi gpu support, will it just sit there with a blinking cursor on a blank screen?23:48
nocilisthat you Praet0rian? http://twitter.com/#!/praet0rian23:48
Praet0riandont use twitter or cia facebook23:48
Praet0rianhaha23:48
elkynocilis, he's in #ubuntu-offtopic which is where non-support chatter happens. Asking him about twitter is offtopic for this support channel23:48
nociliselky ok23:48
Praet0rianman lol topic nazis23:48
Praet0rianI am over there nocilis23:49
elkyPraet0rian, don't even go there.23:49
Praet0rianI didnt its a figment of your imagination23:49
gnomiehe has, twice already23:49
Praet0rianits all good I go over there23:49
nocilisirssi automatically opens a seperate screen for msgs, does weechat do that Ibis?23:50
Ibisnocilis: Separate screen. Like a tab?23:51
BashI guess that's the reason for a faulty grub since all I did was add xforcevesa23:51
tabunetGood evening everyone from Spain ;)23:51
nocilisIbis, umm yes23:51
nocilisIbis not sure what the official term is23:51
IbisA new terminal screen, or same terminal screen?23:51
Praet0riannocilis, its called windowing23:52
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IbisIt would appear in the same terminal window, but as a different tab. Separate message screen (BUT in same terminal window).23:52
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IbisWhat I mean by tab is that /window <numberHere> thing.23:53
nocilisIbis the same terminal screen... it's hard to explain23:53
nocilisIbis you use ALT+arrowkey to move between them, but each one takes up the whole screen23:53
Ibisnocilis: Yes it does that.23:53
MTProwerHey guys, all my attempts at dual-booting Kubuntu and my existing installation of Windows 7 are failing. Can somebody give me some very basic, step-by-step information?23:54
nocilisMTPrower the Kubuntu installer doesn't walk you through it? Where are you having problems?23:55
MTProwerActually, ideally, I don't even want to use Windows 7. I just want to get Kubuntu working on my hard drive without losing my many gigs of files. I've been reading for the last two days and trying all sorts of stuff23:55
MTProwernocilis: even a successful installation of Kubuntu won't boot for some reason...23:56
suniceMTPrower: before making any major changes backup your data.23:56
nocilisMTPrower I second what sunice just said23:56
MTProwersunice: not possible for me23:56
MTProwernocilis: I second what I just said23:56
MTProwerxD23:56
smwMTPrower, define not boot23:57
MTProwernocilis: if I could just back up all my stuff, I could start from scratch and life would be easy. But I can't23:57
suniceMtProwers: what happens when you try to boot it? do you get grub?23:57
nocilisMTPrower Murphy's Law says you will definitely loose all of your files, it's happened to me23:57
gnomieMTPrower: reinstall grub23:57
nocilis*lose23:57
MTProwersmw: I don't have an option to boot Kubuntu at system startup. It just boots Windows23:57
LoshkiMTPrower: if you can't backup your data, eventually you're going to lose it in a hardware failure of some kind....23:57
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smwMTPrower, did you install grub to your boot sector?23:57
MTProwergnomie: I don't have Grub and can't figure out how to use it. They don't give you any information on the official Grub website23:57
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suniceMTProwers did you finish the install of kubuntu with grb?23:58
gnomie!grub23:58
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)23:58
smwMTPrower, did kubuntu ask if you wanted to install grub? Did you say no?23:58
MTProwersmw: no. I couldn't even figure out if I wanted it, due to so little information being given about it23:58
nociliskbuntu should come with grub right?23:58
MTProwersmw: it did not ask23:58
Praetorian0irssi not bad23:58
suniceMTProwers. you can install grub only from an ubuntu live cd.23:59
MTProwerSo what is Grub and why do I want it, and if I get it, will I lose all my stuff on my Windows partition?23:59
smwnocilis, yes, but I thought it asks first. I don't use ubiquity. I like the debian installer better :-P.23:59
MTProwersunice: I have Kubuntu on a flash drive23:59
MTProwersunice: it never said anything about Grub23:59
smwMTPrower, Grub is the boot loader. It chooses which OS to boot.23:59
suniceMTProwers: try reading this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22435123:59

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