[00:00] <qin> Nickel: sl, sudo apt-get install sl (perfect practical annoyance for command line beginers)
[00:00] <SIFTU> sam555: if you are tyring to install the pptp connector for network manager it's in the repos
[00:00] <Nickel> qin, cool
[00:01] <oakman> what linux distro is similar to opensuse?  so i don't use them
[00:01] <Nickel> qin, anything else?
[00:01] <IdleOne> !ot | oakman
[00:02] <Trashi> hi guys. i have an external monitor and i want to define a seperate x screen. works fine, but all desktop files i can see on screen0 arent available on screen1! is there usefull solution for that?
[00:02] <htpc> anybody can help with a bluetooth headset ?
[00:02] <qin> Nickel: There are hundreds of programs, hard to say one best; what are you keen about?
[00:03] <B0g4r7> Nickel, install compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:03] <Nickel> B0g4r7, what's that?
[00:03] <SetiAmon> hmm
[00:03] <Nickel> qin, i'm really into android, would love to learn how to dev
[00:03] <blognewb> hey guys do  you have to pay royalty to mpeg-la if you decide to sell h264 videos
[00:03] <B0g4r7> It lets you turn on all kinds of visual effects like "wobbly windows" and raindrops and such.
[00:03] <Nickel> qin, and i just want to learn linux in general, be familiar with tons of code and such
[00:03] <Nickel> qin, how does sl work exactly?
[00:03] <SetiAmon> So sound is all distorted with my fresh install of Ubuntu
[00:03] <qin> Nickel: So first stop is virtualbox (to run android)
[00:04] <Nickel> nice
[00:04] <SetiAmon> its like it plays,but staticy overlays.sometimes it will repeats itself over and over like a echo becoming more distorted
[00:04] <Nickel> qin, says virtual box has no installation candidate
[00:04] <nuclearworm> hello, my computer boot only fat16 partitioned usb pen drive. is there a way to create a fat16 boot partition or a cd or floppy that tell th system where ubuntu is installed?
[00:04] <qin> Nickel: If you make typo in common comands (ls cd) it will make neat stuff.
[00:05] <B0g4r7> Nickel,  you will need to add the virtualbox repo to apt.
[00:05] <Nickel> repository?
[00:05] <B0g4r7> yes.  http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[00:06] <qin> Nickel: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[00:06] <urlin2u> blognewb, how would we know.
[00:06] <qin> !tab > Nickel
[00:07] <Nickel> lolol ubottu...
[00:08] <Nickel> qin, ooooh, i have to direct everything i say to someone... gotcha. what other commands you have for that bot? :D
[00:08] <Nickel> qin, virtualbox-ose is currently installing
[00:08] <coz_> !bot
[00:09] <Nickel> ubottu, i love you mr. bot.
[00:09] <Nickel> ubottu, you are though, so very
[00:10] <Nickel> how many people come in here and chat with the bot? because i... think it's awesome.
[00:10] <coz_> Nickel,  actually not many,, it is discourages unless you need information :)
[00:11] <coz_> Nickel,  I mean 'discouraged"
[00:11] <Logan_> !botabuse | Nickel
[00:11] <oakman> during ubuntu installation;  how come it does not ask for root password
[00:11] <rww> !noroot
[00:11] <nuclearworm> what is mount point for?
[00:11] <rww> !root
[00:12] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[00:12] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Someone's alive?
[00:12] <SetiAmon> so whats hte fix for fixing audio?
[00:12] <coz_> Emmanuel_Chanel,  many people are here ...yes
[00:12] <Nickel> coz_, sorry about that, was trying to be funny. :P
[00:12] <IceGuest_77> I'm looking to dualboot Win7/Ubuntu, my system is configured with RAID 0, for windows i had to use chipset drivers during the installation, is this the same case for ubuntu? Do I need chipset drivers for the installation to use?
[00:12] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I cannot upgrade my linux kernel on Ubuntu.
[00:13] <coz_> Nickel,  no problem,, it can be fun :)  however it would start to interfere with s upport
[00:13] <Emmanuel_Chanel> >failed in write on buffer copy for backend dpkg-deb during `./lib/modules/2.6.38-11-generic/kernel/fs/dlm/dlm.ko': No space left on device
[00:13] <Emmanuel_Chanel> That's the error message.
[00:13] <Emmanuel_Chanel> But I've extended the space on / filesystem.
[00:13] <coz_> Emmanuel_Chanel,   your hard drive is full?
[00:13] <Emmanuel_Chanel> No.
[00:14] <blognewb> is there a way to know which file format was used in a mp4 container file?
[00:14] <Nickel> qin, that finished downloading, anything else?
[00:14] <Emmanuel_Chanel> The result of df -h / is 430M  326M   83M  80% / .
[00:15] <Emmanuel_Chanel> And I have /boot partition and /tmp , /var , /usr , and /home volume.
[00:15] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Those volumes aren't full, either.
[00:15] <Emmanuel_Chanel> So I don't understand my trouble. And I wanna help.
[00:16] <coz_> blognewb,  not sure actually let me search a bit
[00:16] <G00053> how do i find out what the newest version of fglrx is ?
[00:16] <Logan_> !info fglrx | G00053
[00:17] <nuclearworm> can i install ubuntu and choose /cdrom as mount point? what are the problems of doing so?
[00:17] <jfmoraes> hello
[00:17] <coz_> brb
[00:18] <G00053> okaylogan ty
[00:19] <jfmoraes> hi
[00:19] <Logan_> G00053: You're welcome.
[00:20] <jfmoraes> hiiiiiiiiiiii
[00:20] <jfmoraes> is there anyone here
[00:21] <jabagawee> hi
[00:21] <jabagawee> did you need help, jfmoraes?
[00:22] <Emmanuel_Chanel> How can I help my problem?
[00:22] <SIFTU> Emmanuel_Chanel: your is really 430Mb?
[00:22] <blognewb> Hey guys
[00:22] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Yes.
[00:22] <SIFTU> Emmanuel_Chanel: / partition
[00:22] <blognewb> what can i use to convert swf to mp4 or other containers??
[00:22] <blognewb> haaalp :(
[00:23] <SIFTU> Emmanuel_Chanel: well I bet it does run out of space
[00:23] <jabagawee> blognewb, ffmpeg's good
[00:23] <SIFTU> blognewb: ffmpeg, and there are a few frontends
[00:23] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I have /boot , /usr , /var , and /tmp ...
[00:24] <Emmanuel_Chanel> ok.
[00:24] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Where is dpkg's buffer?
[00:24] <blognewb> SIFTU jabagawee is there a tute page where a noob like me can use to convert swf->mp4
[00:24] <andreas> I upgraded to 11.04, went to Ubuntu Classic but now under Appereance I can not get into special effects. Anybody knows how to fix?
[00:24] <K4k> blognewb: man ffmpeg
[00:24] <SIFTU> Emmanuel_Chanel: it' running out of space in /lib and since you dont have a /lib partition it's under /
[00:24] <andreas> My graphics driver is up to date
[00:24] <jabagawee> andreas, instal compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:24] <SIFTU> blognewb: plenty on google
[00:24] <andreas> Is installed
[00:25] <K4k> blognewb: I've good luck finding ffmpeg examples on google too
[00:25] <jabagawee> blognewb, google is your friend
[00:25] <Emmanuel_Chanel> How much space do I need?
[00:25] <xangua> andreas: compiz --replace
[00:25] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I can extend / partition.
[00:25] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I use LVM...
[00:26] <SIFTU> Emmanuel_Chanel: then extend it.. give it a few more GB
[00:26] <urlin2u> Emmanuel_Chanel, what is the distro?
[00:26] <andreas> I ran compiz --replace but still no options under apperance
[00:26] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Ubuntu 11.04 . So I'm asking this question on this channel.
[00:26] <andreas>  lspci | grep VGA
[00:26] <andreas> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT215 [GeForce GTS 360M] (rev a2)
[00:26] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I installed it by alternate 64bit CD.
[00:27] <andreas> Usually I would just go under System>Appearnce>Visual Options or something like that and enable extra
[00:27] <urlin2u> Emmanuel_Chanel, you installed with the alternative and have  /boot , /usr , /var , and /tmp ...
[00:27] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Right.
[00:28] <blognewb> hey is it possible to use and house only one video file format to yield 3 diff container files mp4 webm and ogg for html5 videos or do i have to store static mp4 webm ogg in my server
[00:28] <urlin2u> Emmanuel_Chanel, personally I don't believe you that is a fedora install.
[00:28] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I was formerly a Fedora user...
[00:29] <Emmanuel_Chanel> The result of dpkg -I linux-image-2.6.38-11-generic_2.6.38-11.50_amd64.deb: Installed-Size: 144684
[00:29] <urlin2u> Emmanuel_Chanel, doesn't matter if I believe though. :D
[00:30] <SIFTU> Emmanuel_Chanel: just extend /
[00:31] <Emmanuel_Chanel> ok.
[00:31] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I try.
[00:35] <bfreis> I have "zombie" mounts I want to get rid of, what can I do? I was building an Ubuntu image, so I had to mount /dev, /proc into the chroot environment. Later I unmounted the chroot base dir, but the other mounts remained
[00:36] <jeremy-77> if you have 2 hard drives both 250 gig ide and one is set as master and one is slave and you install ubuntu on the master is it normal for ubuntu to put grub or any other part of boot up on the slave hard drive?  im asking cause after install and then removing second ide slave and setting other drive as single master it has the OS but no boot loader or grub
[00:38] <coz_> jeremy-77,   I have 2 hard drives one with window one with ubuntu...grub is put onto the windows disk by default,, I know you can dictate where it is installed but I would suggest the #grub channel for detailed info on that
[00:38] <jlebar> Hi, all.  I'm a Firefox developer working on wording for a prompt for an upcoming version of Firefox.  I'd like to take a quick straw poll of the channel.  If I told you that I was collecting information about "how you use Firefox", would you be surprised to find out that that includes a list of the extensions you have installed?
[00:38] <MonkeyDust> anyone has a solution for the kworker bug? http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-717919%5D-re-acpi-kworker-high-interrupts-134097/
[00:38] <MonkeyDust> jlebar: polls are not allowed here
[00:39] <Lithos84> !poll | jlebar
[00:40] <jlebar> Yes, that was definitely the kind of poll I was conducting.  Thanks!
[00:40] <jeremy-77> coz_,  well I do have a folder on the slave drive with several OS iso's so do you think maybe ubuntu installer sees them as existing OS and sets grub up on slave drive ?
[00:41] <coz_> jeremy-77,  it is possible, but I am not up completely with grub2 and its options and defaults,,, I would still suggest checkin with the people in #grub channel :)
[00:41] <jeremy-77> coz_,  thanks
[00:49] <facebump> hey
[00:50] <facebump> I have a very strange touchpad issue that I havent been able to solve...it works for a couple of minutes/seconds after boot, but then it just stops
[00:50] <facebump> I can use a usb mouse, but not the touchpad
[00:53] <Nickel> qin, you still around?
[00:54] <davidf> hi anybody know why I can't run administrative tasks if I'm offline? That seems pretty scary to me. rootkit?
[00:55] <zephyr> Erm...
[00:55] <zephyr> What's the purpose of the "Public" Folder in every user's home directory?
[00:55] <hfsv> lol
[00:56] <oakman> how do i set root password
[00:56] <B0g4r7> zephyr, I think that anything placed in those dirs is accessible via apache running on the hist vie ~username in the url.
[00:56] <urlin2u> oakbox, you don't have to you just need the sudo password.
[00:57] <alexThunder> hi - can anyone help me with pcsxr?
[00:57] <zephyr> oakman: sudo passwd
[00:57] <oakman> but i want to
[00:57] <facebump> oakman, to get a root shell type sudo -i
[00:57] <markus> ciaoo
[00:57] <facebump> anyone know anything about figuring out my synaptic touchpad on 11.10
[00:58] <urlin2u> oakbox, have you had a chance to read this wiki. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[00:58] <urlin2u> facebump, that would be in #ubuntu+1
[00:58] <zephyr> b0nghittr: You "think"? xD
[00:58] <facebump> cool, ill give that a try, thanks
[00:59] <zephyr> I was going to use that as a directory to host my own website files. I hate to "clutter" my home folder.
[00:59] <zephyr> And I got a very bad habit of doing that.
[01:04] <facebump> zephyr, create a directory in your home folder called public_html
[01:05] <facebump> that is how I have done it in the past
[01:07] <Roasted> I just had a nvidia driver installation go south. now when I fire up this ubuntu box I get nothing. just a balnk screen. Any ideas?
[01:07] <urlin2u> Roasted, you can try the failsafe from recovery for a low graphics.
[01:08] <Roasted> how can I get into that? My only user on this system is set to auto login. :(
[01:08] <Roasted> so I dont have a chance to hit the login screen to change anything
[01:09] <urlin2u> Roasted, there is a recovery boot at the grub menu, tap shift if you never see grub to bring it up at powering on.
[01:10] <urlin2u> Roasted, which distro are you running?
[01:10] <Roasted> 11.04
[01:10] <oakman> what is equivalent of "SUDO -i"  in GUI
[01:11] <urlin2u> Roasted, cool the failsafe is in the first gui after choosing the recovery use the arrow keys to scroll to it.
[01:11] <Alpha_Punk> sudoigui
[01:11] <Alpha_Punk> :P
[01:12] <Roasted> urlin2u, recovery mode you mean?
[01:12] <Roasted> oh yeah I see it now
[01:12] <Roasted> the failsafe in the menu
[01:13] <urlin2u> Roasted, if you get to a cli type startx
[01:13] <blognewb> hey do producers have to pay royalty to mpegla if you self h264 videos?
[01:13] <blognewb> sell
[01:14] <urlin2u> blognewb, not a ubuntu issue.
[01:14] <oakman> what is equivalent of "SUDO -i"  in GUI
[01:14] <oakman> anybody know
[01:15] <doofy_> My ubuntu seems to be booting fine, but i can't get the login screen or X to work properly. I can SSH to the machine and open up other terminals on the physical box, but the gui boots in to a solid purple screen
[01:15] <KM0201> oakman: don't think thereis noe.. sudo is designed to be temporary
[01:15] <mateus> oieee
[01:15] <urlin2u> oakbox, the question leaves out to much (gui?)
[01:16] <oakman> KM0201 even temporarily ; how do i  sudo -i  in GUI
[01:17] <hfsv> What is a good media player for ubuntu?
[01:17] <KM0201> oakman: thats my point, sudo -i, is to make a terminal "stay" with root privileges, until you exit it or close the terminal.. to my knowledge, there is no gui equivalent
[01:18] <KM0201> !best | hfsv
[01:18] <Emmanuel_Chanel> SIFTU: My trouble is solved.
[01:18] <coz_> hfsv,  well... xbmc  or depending on which type of media you want to play
[01:18] <KM0201> that's another big part of it.. "media".. is a lot of different stuff
[01:18] <oakman> hmm i just managed to log in as root:  how is this possible: i don't even know what root password is
[01:19] <coz_> oakbox,  you went to the login window and logged in  "root" ?
[01:19] <oakman> yes
[01:19] <coz_> oakbox,  sorry
[01:19] <hfsv> it's mostly video (avi, mp4, etc)
[01:19] <KM0201> !sudo | oakman do some reading
[01:19] <oakman> it even show as "root" on  top-right
[01:19] <coz_> oakman,  did you p ut in a password
[01:19] <oakman> i put password of another user
[01:19] <oakman> i have never set root password
[01:19] <KM0201> some people are their own worst enemy learning linux.
[01:20] <coz_> oakman,  mm something is not right with permissions then...
[01:20] <KM0201> oakman: why are you wanting to login as root anyway?
[01:20] <coz_> oakbox,  to get a root terminal you simply have to type   sudo -i
[01:21] <coz_> oakman,  ^^
[01:21] <coz_> oakbox,  sorry again
[01:21] <Emmanuel_Chanel> SIFTU: thx.
[01:21] <eman_> is there a version of samba that works between non-windows machines?
[01:21] <fendur> I am not having luck changing my window manager in 10.04. I've tried a couple settings in gconf-editor and I've tried using the option at the bottom of the gdm login screen. I'm trying to use "dwm" -- a simple window manager. Any tips?
[01:21] <KM0201> eman_: linux and mac both support samba... so.. yes there's  aversion that works between non-windows machiens, its samba
[01:21] <coz_> oakman,  you can also open nautilus  with  gksudo nautilus and  do things as if root
[01:21] <eman_> ie frinstance two ubuntu boxes
[01:22] <coz_> fendur,  its likely you have to log off and after putting in your password before hitting enter,, change the session to dwm
[01:22] <KM0201> eman_: for two linux users, you can use NFS, or just use samba
[01:22] <eman_> but not for file shareing from ubuntu
[01:22] <eman_> cannot use samba for two linux users
[01:22] <coz_> fendur,  you could also try in terminal  dwm --replac & disown
[01:22] <KM0201> eman_: lol, yes you can
[01:23] <coz_> fendur,  rather    dwm --replace & disown
[01:23] <fendur> coz: odd. dwm doesn't have a --replace. I'
[01:23] <fendur> ll try the login method you propose.
[01:23] <coz_> fendur,  then log off and try changing the session to dwm
[01:23] <eman_> km0201 what version
[01:23] <KM0201> eman_: what verson of what?
[01:23] <eman_> linux/samba
[01:23] <eman_> work
[01:23] <KM0201> any/any
[01:24] <eman_> wrong wrong
[01:24] <eman_> not nautilus
[01:24] <KM0201> eman_: lol, ok.. i'm not gonna argue with you, but you have no clue
[01:24] <KM0201> eman_: i didn't say anything about nautilus
[01:24] <eman_> trying to share in nautilus gives samba errors
[01:24] <fendur> coz_: I had no luck with that. I chose my user, typed password, changed the wm option to dwm, and pressed enter.
[01:25] <Roasted> dang, I'm still getting white screens instead of the screensaver
[01:25] <KM0201> eman_: then you probably don't know what you're doing, thats the only thing i can figure, because it works fine
[01:25] <coz_> fendur,  then you may have to check online about this,, I have not used dwm  so I may have it all wrong
[01:25] <eman_> what versisons
[01:25] <eman_> 10.10 does not
[01:25] <fendur> coz_: thank you.
[01:25] <KM0201> eman_: i keep trying to tell you, it doesn't matter, and yes it does
[01:25] <coz_> fendur,  let me search ,, hold on
[01:26] <ruconse> ubuntu, anyone knows the sftp protocol version 4, does Linux support it?
[01:26] <Roasted> Has anybody else experienced random white screens on ubuntu 11.04?
[01:26] <IdleOne> KM0201 eman_ stop arguing about what works/doesn't work and figure out what the actual issue is. eman_ what error are you getting?
[01:26] <KM0201> Roasted: ATI
[01:26] <eman_> ahh you must lead a charmed life
[01:26] <chalcedony> Roasted, i have yet to enjoy that bug, but so far 11.04 has had others
[01:26] <Roasted> KM0201, nvidia
[01:26] <eman_> just a sec
[01:26] <KM0201> IdleOne: i'm not arguing, he's telling me it doesn't work, and i know better
[01:26] <Roasted> chalcedony, yeah, considering htis is just for a HTPC, I'm thinking 10.04 might be safer.
[01:27] <Roasted> it'll just auto login and auto launch XBMC anyway...
[01:27] <IdleOne> KM0201: I know you know better, this is why I am asking you to get to the actual issue :)
[01:27] <fendur> coz_: i'd love to hear what you find. I certainly have looked. A lot of the advise doesn't seem possible due to various differences between instructions and what I see here on my desktop.
[01:27] <Roasted> chalcedony, just saddens me I run into something like this to begin with.
[01:27] <chalcedony> Roasted, 10.10 was much better than either 10.04 or 11.04
[01:27] <KM0201> IdleOne: well, i hav an issue w/ someone telling me i'm wrong, when they are asking me for help (and i know otherwise)
[01:27] <SetiAmon> So I ripped pulse/alsa off and installed oss4 to see if that resolves sound issues
[01:27] <Roasted> chalcedony, disagree. but to each his own.
[01:27] <SetiAmon> well sound is better...But how do i controll volume now
[01:27] <oakman> how do i log in as root
[01:28] <IdleOne> oakman: use sudo
[01:28] <eman_> how tp past w/o flood?
[01:28] <oakman> idleone that's no what i asked
[01:28] <IdleOne> !paste
[01:28] <dr_willis> Roasted:  im finding 11.10 working better for my Nvidia system then 10.04 or 11.04 did. :)   which is good news.
[01:28] <IdleOne> oakman: Ubuntu does not support logging in as root
[01:28] <Roasted> dr_willis, nice, nice. I wonder if 11.10 is safe enough to install on a HTPC... but considering its just a HTPC... I suppose it cant be bad?
[01:29] <Roasted> dr_willis, after all, can't I update 11.10 if I go that route to be 100% current when its finally released? or would I have to do a fresh install?
[01:29] <eman_> like that one
[01:29] <dr_willis> Roasted:  for now. theres going go be quite a few updates  untill its released. You canupgrade yes.
[01:29] <Roasted> I wonder if that would be smarter than 10.04 or trying to fix 11.04....
[01:29] <oakman> idleone i just logged in as root:  why do you have to lie
[01:29] <IdleOne> oakman: lie?
[01:29] <urlin2u> oakbox, where?
[01:29] <IdleOne> oakman: how did you log in as root?
[01:29] <coz_> fendur,  did you see this?    http://aclindsay.com/blog/2011/04/installing-dwm-and-killing-gdm-on-ubuntu/
[01:29] <Roasted> dr_willis, okay. I wasn't sure if I had to wait till a certain stage to upgrade it as the final edition though.
[01:29] <dr_willis> oakman:  Ubuntu does not have direct logging in as root enabled by default.
[01:29] <urlin2u> oakman, where?
[01:29] <oakman> i just typed username "root"
[01:30] <dr_willis> oakman:  then you are using some tweaked/changed ubuntu sounds like.
[01:30] <lmnop> oakman, you iinstalled Ubuntu?
[01:30] <oakman> dr_willis i did not change anything
[01:30] <lmnop> for your XFS?
[01:30] <coz_> fendur,  you might also want to   sudo apt-get install dwm-tools
[01:30] <oakman> lmnop yes , i just tried copying to xfs partition; it did not work
[01:31] <lmnop> oakman, hmm...  that actually surprises me
[01:31] <eman_> there are bug reports all over the place
[01:31] <SetiAmon> anyone here using OSS4??
[01:31] <eman_> solutions don't work
[01:32] <IdleOne> eman_: Do you want help or to complain?
[01:32] <zephyr> What's really the purpose of   /home/<user>/Public         ???
[01:32] <lmnop> oss4 is great if your app can use it
[01:32] <IdleOne> eman_: what errors are you getting?
[01:32] <dr_willis> zephyr:  for a Public samba share I would guess.
[01:32] <lmnop> SetiAmon, ^^
[01:32] <eman_> i did a ubuntu pastebin
[01:32] <fendur> coz_: no. but the way he describes it, it just worked. Other discussion involves not booting to gdm at all (i.e. startup with a basic console login)
[01:32] <Seanmc98> FF ?DCC SEND “ff???f??????????????” 0 0 0
[01:32] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, DON'T click on suspicious links, and type « /msg ubottu exploit » if you want more information.
[01:32] <IdleOne> eman_: what is the url?
[01:33] <coz_> fendur,  understood...as I said I know little about this,, have you looked into xmonad?
[01:33] <eman_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/694897/
[01:33] <lmnop> oakman, is the XFS partition mounted?
[01:34] <edinny> having problems finding acroread on natty AMD64 system
[01:34] <fendur> coz_: i just looked it up. Looks like an interesting alternative.
[01:34] <fendur> coz_: thanks for your help.
[01:35] <sdz> how do you install the bios into ubuntu's file manager?
[01:35] <coz_> fendur,  no problem,, I do know of several people  w ho prefer xmonad
[01:35] <eman_> didn't mean to make people mad was lookin for solution
[01:35] <oakman> lmnop  yes
[01:35] <edinny> any idea how to install Adobe reader on
[01:35] <KM0201> eman_: can you post the contents of /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:35] <edinny> any idea how to install Adobe reader on Natty AMD 64 sytem?
[01:36] <eman_> sure
[01:37] <eman_> what is that url again
[01:37] <IdleOne> paste.ubuntu.com
[01:38] <eman_> 694899/
[01:39] <mozilla-help> Why do I not see the firefox acroread plugins in Synaptic on Hardy? I had to downgrade a system to Hardy due to video card problems and now need to get acrobat hyperlinks to display in FF...I do have Multiverse/Universe/Medibuntu installed
[01:39] <KM0201> is it that hard to paste a clickable URL?
[01:40] <eman_> goin to other ubuntu machine bbiab
[01:43] <lmnop> oakman, please restate your concern in the channel here i have to run, and i'm usre someone can help with this
[01:45] <Dreamer3> how can i get gzcat?
[01:45] <KM0201> !info gzcat
[01:46] <Dreamer3> it's part of the gzip package on my mac i think
[01:46] <dr_willis> !find gzcat
[01:46] <Shirakawasuna> anyone here ever tried a system76 laptop? You actually get a lot of hardware for the money, I just wonder about reliability compare to my usual thinkpads
[01:46] <Dreamer3> interesting
[01:46] <Shirakawasuna> (I'm hoping this is on-topic as they're ubuntu-centered laptops)
[01:47] <dr_willis> They just take other brand laptops and redo them i thought. so check reviews for the original brand.
[01:47] <dr_willis> Ive heard they do good work. been looking at them myself.
[01:48] <Dreamer3> gunzip -c will work
[01:48] <dr_willis> :) bbl
[01:49] <itaylor57> Shirakawasuna, I have a lemur2 from system76, I like it alot
[01:50] <Shirakawasuna> itaylor57: cool. Has it lasted long/needed repair?
[01:50] <Shirakawasuna> dr_willis: so this laptop is presumably made by a different company and rebranded? http://www.system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=114
[01:50] <itaylor57> Shirakawasuna, I have had it for one year, no problems so far
[01:50] <eman_> 694901
[01:50] <Shirakawasuna> itaylor57: cool
[01:51] <KM0201> eman_: at least post the whole link.. that's pure laziness on your part
[01:51] <eman_> several bug reports  i tried several blog solutions nada
[01:51] <Shirakawasuna> bah, gotta go
[01:51] <eman_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/694901/
[01:51] <Shirakawasuna> but I'll read anything anyone says about it when i get back!
[01:51] <KM0201> eman_: well, first, there no entry in your smb.conf for any shares.. so it's logical that samba is not sharing anything
[01:52] <eman_> umm
[01:52] <eman_> two diff computers
[01:52] <eman_> this last from other computer
[01:52] <eman_> i had to email it to myself
[01:52] <KM0201> eman_: well, on the "other computer".. your smb.conf, has no shared path.
[01:53] <eman_> oooooooooook
[01:53] <eman_> and the fix is
[01:53] <SetiAmon> I may just revert to jaunty
[01:53] <SetiAmon> i never had any problems with jaunty really.
[01:54] <xangua> jaunty is no loger supported ;) good luck
[01:54] <xangua> longer*
[01:55] <GreekFreak> Hi. Does anyone know why  Ubuntu will succesfully install the first few times on one machine, and then no intall (on the same machine) due to graphics drivers?
[01:55] <SetiAmon> is there a reason I can't use jaunty?what would i be missing if i reverted back to jaunty instead of the latest?unity? any real mixxing pieces
[01:55] <SetiAmon> grub2?
[01:55] <chipmonk> I am eman on other computer
[01:57] <chipmonk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/694904/
[01:57] <KM0201> eman_: this is the smb.conf for my NAS --- look at the very end of this file..  http://pastebin.com/wAdhb0p8
[01:58] <SetiAmon> Jaunty has no more support but frankly everything since jaunty has been a joke.if it works why fix it?boredom
[01:58] <oakman> xfs_rtcp /root/1.mpg /mnt/2
[01:58] <oakman> xfs_rtcp: set attributes on /mnt/2/1.mpg failed: Invalid argument
[01:58] <oakman> why am i getting errors here
[02:02] <Superdave_> having trouble with ssh. I get a connection refused error when accessing from outside, but i'm fine inside. Port is forwarded, and everything seems to be in order. any ideas?
[02:03] <chipmonk> hmmm KM0201 (eman)
[02:04] <KM0201> chipmonk: like i said, i don't know what you're doing.. but.. setting up a samba share is not difficult.
[02:04] <KM0201> chipmonk: if you want private help w/ setting it up, it should be fairly easy, sendm e a PM and we'll go over it
[02:04] <chipmonk> just not with nautilus
[02:05] <KM0201> chipmonk: no real need to use nautilus..
[02:05] <chipmonk> what then nfs
[02:05] <KM0201> chipmonk: if ou can't figure out samba, it's unlikely ou'l figure out NFS (i've never personally messed w/ NFS)
[02:06] <chipmonk> hehe you get my point
[02:06] <chipmonk> i can get into windows machine
[02:06] <chipmonk> windows cannot see ubuntu
[02:06] <chipmonk> ubuntu cannot see ubuntu
[02:06] <KM0201> chipmonk: windows can't see ubuntu, because samba is not setup, i don't know how many other ways to tell you that
[02:07] <steve-moz> Why do I not see mozilla-acroread in Hardy? I have medibuntu/partner/multiverse/universe repos enabled...?
[02:07] <fendur> coz_: for the record, I got it to work by switching to xdm and using it's simple mechanism for WM choice of modifying ~/.Xsession
[02:07] <coz_> fendur,  excellent ! :)  glad to hear that
[02:07] <oakman> xfs_rtcp /root/1.mpg /mnt/2
[02:07] <oakman> xfs_rtcp: set attributes on /mnt/2/1.mpg failed: Invalid argument
[02:07] <oakman> why am i getting errors here
[02:08] <xangua> !info acroread hardy | steve-moz
[02:11] <fendur> coz_: thanks again.
[02:11] <coz_> fendur,  no problem
[02:12] <george_> I just deleted the files in my downloads folder in my home directory, is there a way I can undelete them, and no they're not in the trash
[02:13] <steve-moz> i think someone was trying to help me but my computer froze...another problem I am dealing with. Anyway, I am looking for mozilla-acroread for Hardy...why is it not in medi/multi/universe/partner/backports?
[02:15] <sam555> how do you figure out what your wifi card is in ubuntu netbook?
[02:15] <george_> sam555, open terminal and do sudo ifconfig
[02:21] <steve-moz> I am looking for mozilla-acroread for Hardy...why is it not in medi/multi/universe/partner/backports?
[02:23] <Phr3d13> trying to find a program/terminal command to convert avis to a 3gp or 3g2 format compatible with my phone (Samsung messager II - SCH-R560)
[02:24] <fmonroy> Gimp single window mode http://aceptarocancelar.blogspot.com/2011/09/gimp-single-window-mode.html
[02:25] <rypervenche> Phr3d13: ffmpeg can do it
[02:25] <Phr3d13> every time i try ffmepg, mencoder, etc when i put the output file on my phone it says file not supported
[02:28] <angel56> Phr3d13: ffmpeg is the answer to your question. If it isn't doing the job for you, maybe you should be asking a different question
[02:31] <yixuan> Hello everyone, need urgent help !!! last night I want to upgrade my natty to 11.10 beta1, but it failed, or is not full downloaded.
[02:31] <yixuan> today I cannot see my gnome desktop
[02:32] <yixuan> even worse, I use apt-get dist-upgrade, so update-manager will be promt message "cannot upgrade from onenic to natty"
[02:32] <yixuan> how can I do right now?
[02:32] <SetiAmon> excuse me
[02:33] <SetiAmon> what would be the harm in returning to jaunty?
[02:33] <IdleOne> SetiAmon: it's no longer supported
[02:36] <Corey> yixuan: Can you get a shell working?
[02:36] <yixuan> can anyone help me? how to resolve 11.10 upgrade failed?
[02:38] <Corey> yixuan: Or don't answer, that works too I guess?
[02:39] <Superdave_> having trouble with ssh server. I get a connection refused error when accessing from outside, but i'm fine inside. Port is forwarded, and everything seems to be in order. any ideas?
[02:39] <rypervenche> Superdave_: Have you checked your sshd_config file?
[02:40] <steve-Lock> If my Hardy install is randomly freezing (happens intermittently when installing software or launching programs), where do I look to find the cause of the freeze?
[02:41] <Superdave_> rypervenche: I have, and there's nothing there that seems out of the ordinary... What should I look for?
[02:41] <rypervenche> Superdave_: Do you have PasswordAuthentication on?
[02:41] <rypervenche> Superdave_: Or are you only using keys?
[02:42] <Superdave_> rypervenche: no, I use a password
[02:42] <rypervenche> Superdave_: Is PasswordAuthentication set to yes?
[02:42] <zephyr> Anyone here by any chance use IRC on Empathy messenger?
[02:43] <maxtmahem> Okay I'm going crazy somebody is calling me though gtalk (I'm using empathy) and the dang thing is rinigng and ringing, but I can't figure out how to answer it!
[02:43] <Xeneth> how do you "address the recipient"?  I see it done, don't know the syntax.
[02:43] <rypervenche> Superdave_: Still sounds like a port forwarding issue if you can do it on your local network.
[02:43] <Superdave_> rypervenche: Yeah, but it's forwarded in my router...
[02:44] <zephyr> Xeneth: Try this, double click on the person's name who is calling you.       Then in that personal IM-window, click on Contact and see if an option for answering is thee.
[02:44] <kristina> hey guys, how can I log in as root without sudo and logging in with the user account?
[02:44] <rypervenche> Superdave_: pastebin your sshd_config pleaes
[02:45] <zephyr> kristina: Wait wait. Pause & Stop... When you mention "the user account", do you mean root?
[02:45] <zephyr> Or your own personal account?
[02:45] <Superdave_> rypervenche: ok. how do I pastebin
[02:46] <netyire> kristna: yes, but that would defeat much of the in-built security measures
[02:46] <rypervenche> Superdave_: pastebin.com
[02:46] <kristina> zephr, no, I want to log in as root, not my personal account.
[02:46] <Xeneth> zephyr, I am using Xchat.  Double click does nothing.  I see "Xeneth:  ..." when you address me, and it does show red.  is there a syntax for that, or do I just have to put the name with colon?
[02:46] <netyire> kristina: it isn't a good idea, sudo is much better, but if you want type 'su' and enter the password to become root
[02:47] <netyire> or grant yourself superuser privileges under the users & groups settings
[02:47] <kristina> I want to directly log into root without using sudo or su.
[02:47] <netyire> good luck, may the force watch over you...
[02:47] <Loshki> kristina: why do you need to login *directly* as root?
[02:48] <Superdave_> rypervenche: http://pastebin.com/EHhsfPLN
[02:48] <Xeneth> kristina:  Not a good Idea, but to do it, you need to assign root a password first, then you log in like normal.
[02:48] <zephyr> kristina: You are better off doing the following. 1st. Open up terminal. 2nd. Type in this command: su               <----- You're only then asked for root password once and then you can do any command from there.
[02:48] <kristina> Loshki, i deleted some files in my home folder and now I'm trying to use extundelete to undelete files and i need to keep sda5 unmounted
[02:49] <BluebirdShao> my Ubuntu running VMware 8 is so slowly.
[02:49] <Phr3d13> which of these video formats is better? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/59/screenshotkrwe.png/ and what is the command for ffmpeg to output a file with the better of the two settings?
[02:49] <luchenbill> is there a known issue for usb not working with a fresh install of ubuntu 11.04?
[02:49] <luchenbill> I have been searching with no luck
[02:49] <rickup> BluebirdShao, I ditched VMWare for VirtualBox about 2 years ago and never looked back
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[02:49] <zephyr> Logging in as "root" as you would with your "Personal user account" is a horrible idea as mentioned previously Xeneth and others.
[02:49] <rypervenche> Superdave_: comment out the ListenAddress
[02:50] <rypervenche> Superdave_: Then "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart"
[02:50] <maxtmahem> BluebirdShao: Ditto, I pretty much hate Oracle, but VirtualBox is pretty good.
[02:50] <zephyr> BluebirdShao: How much ram you got? I suggest VirtualBox
[02:50] <rickup> I pretty much hate Oracle too
[02:50] <kristina> Xeneth, Zephr, i deleted some files in my home folder and now I'm trying to use extundelete to undelete files and i need to keep sda5 unmounted
[02:50] <BluebirdShao> rickup: I wanna try windows 8, so it must install VMware 8.
[02:50] <Loshki> kristina: Tricky. You'll need to do as Xeneth said, then...
[02:50] <jrib> Superdave_, rypervenche: should use service command instead of /etc/init.d
[02:50] <Xeneth> zephyr:  Thus the "bad Idea" I added.  :P
[02:51] <rickup> yeah wow that sounds like fun
[02:51] <jrib> kristina: use recovery mode
[02:51] <BluebirdShao> zephyr: 2 GB RAM
[02:51] <jrib> kristina: (and select root prompt)
[02:51] <kristina> Xeneth, Loshki, isn't there a default root password?
[02:51] <rickup> BluebirdShao, http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?p=200748
[02:51] <rypervenche> jrib: Oh? Thanks.
[02:51] <rypervenche> Superdave_: So yeah, run "sudo service ssh restart"
[02:52] <kristina> jrib, how do I start up recovery mode, use the recovery kernel?
[02:52] <zephyr> BluebirdShao: That's more than enough. See.            (I only have 1GB here).
[02:52] <Loshki> kristina: absolutely not. By default, you cannot login as root on Ubuntu...
[02:52] <jrib> kristina: it's an option at the grub selection screen (you can see the grub screen by holding shift during boot)
[02:52] <zephyr> Virtualbox is what I use and it's not slow.
[02:52] <Xeneth> Root by default is inactive".  Root comands are normally done by a superuser with the "sudo" command.  AKA: sudo chown user folder/
[02:52] <Superdave_> rypervenche: ok. how the freak do I get vim to edit.
[02:53] <jrib> Superdave_: use nano if vim is too awesome for you ;)
[02:53] <kristina> Okay, thanks Zephr, Xeneth, and jrib.
[02:53] <luchenbill> I just installed 11.04 and none of my usb ports are now working :|
[02:54] <oakman> s there a md5sum utility but faster than md5sum
[02:54] <luchenbill> I have been googling this issue but only see help for 10.04
[02:54] <Superdave_> jrib: Hey, now... :P
[02:54] <zephyr> rypervenche: I like nano more than vim anyway.
[02:54] <luchenbill> oops
[02:54] <luchenbill> :D
[02:55] <Xeneth> nano is easy to understand, closer to commen wordprocessers.
[02:55] <dt_flys> zephyr: really? is nano good than vim or gvim?
[02:55] <oakman> is there a md5sum utility but faster than md5sum
[02:55] <MikeChelen> !best
[02:56] <Phr3d13> luchenbill, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1816398
[02:56] <Phr3d13> figures
[02:56] <jrib> oakman: why?
[02:57] <oakman> jrib md5sum is too slow for big files
[02:57] <Superdave_> rypervenche: Got the service restarted, but still getting the connection refused error
[02:57] <rickup> I uninstall Windows 7 on all new machines and install Ubuntu + VirtualBox + (The client's old)  Windows XP
[02:57] <Phr3d13> which of these video formats is better? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/59/screenshotkrwe.png/ and what is the command for ffmpeg to convert a file to the better of the two settings?
[02:57] <rypervenche> Superdave_: You sure you changed it? You did "sudo nano" or "sudo gedit" ?
[02:58] <Superdave_> Yep. Sure
[02:58] <jrib> oakman: does it need to be md5?
[02:58] <oakman> jrib no, but does something similar
[02:58] <Phr3d13> if using a gui program aren't you supposed to use gksudo?
[02:58] <rypervenche> Superdave_: What is the command you are doing?
[02:58] <eman_> i forgot your handle (chipmonk)
[02:59] <rypervenche> Phr3d13: You don't have to. It only changes where you input your password. sudo inputs it into the terminal, while gksudo opens a window for you to type it in.
[02:59] <Phr3d13> i thought there was more behind the scenes magic :-)
[03:00] <Superdave_> rypervenche: "ssh username@publicaddress" (censored, of course)
[03:01] <jrib> oakman: googling a bit someone said md5deep is faster but mostly I found people saying the bottleneck was I/O, not the md5sum program.  I must go now though, good night
[03:02] <Superdave_> rypervenche: if it helps at all, my goal is to do dynamic tunneling
[03:03] <Phr3d13> which of these video formats is better? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/59/screenshotkrwe.png/ and what is the command for ffmpeg to convert a file to the better of the two settings?
[03:04] <Xeneth> zeph
[03:04] <rypervenche> Phr3d13: Go with the one on the right I suppose.
[03:05] <UnrealPancake> hello
[03:05] <zephyr> Xeneth: Okay, try the first 5 letters then. xD
[03:05] <Phr3d13> ok, any ideas what the command should look like?
[03:05] <Loshki> oakman: come to think of it, what do you mean by 'too slow'? How big are 'big files', and why what's your hurry?
[03:05] <Xeneth> zephyr, got it.  :)
[03:05] <zephyr> Xeneth: (What happens is that, sometimes, other people may have names that are spelled alike).
[03:05] <UnrealPancake> I need help Dual Booting / Installing Ubuntu With Windows 7 64-bit. would anybody be willing to help?
[03:06] <zephyr> So in case, you might have to hit tab again.
[03:06] <rypervenche> Superdave_: The only things I can think of that would be preventing you from being able to SSH into your system would be your config file and your firewall.
[03:06] <zephyr> And again until the correct name appears.
[03:06] <Phr3d13> UnrealPancake, is windows already installed?
[03:06] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: yes.
[03:06] <Xeneth> zephyr, There just was no indication that it was differant then all the other text I sent.  I'm good now.  Thanks agian.
[03:07] <Superdave_> rypervenche: is there a system firewall that would be blocking it? because I don't have one anywhere else...
[03:09] <h0sting> someone tells me how to set up an FTP
[03:09] <Phr3d13> UnrealPancake, reboot with the disc in the drive, follow the prompts, if ya get stuck and have something to browse the web, http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony
[03:09] <h0sting> My ftp interprets .php file I need to save
[03:10] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: I dont have a disk
[03:10] <Phr3d13> have you had success booting from usb device before?
[03:11] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: I do not know, I have dual booted My Desktop With Windows XP and Ubuntu, but I am trying it on my brand new laptop
[03:12] <Xeneth> Superdave_, Have you verified that the service is listening to the correct port with netstat?
[03:12] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: so I dont know for sure if it will boot from a USB drive
[03:12] <Phr3d13> do you have a blank cd/dvd?
[03:12] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: no. But I have a 4 GB USB
[03:12] <Superdave_> Xeneth: It probably is, but give me the process for netstat just so I can be sure
[03:13] <Phr3d13> do you have the ubuntu iso?
[03:13] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: no.
[03:13] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: Use this software tomake your USB drive bootable:   unetbootin             You can apt-get it/download it from their website.    This works for mr.
[03:13] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: actually I DOnt Know
[03:13] <Xeneth> Superdave_, sorry, A noob at linux myself.  I know the command in windows but not on a linux machine.
[03:13] <Xeneth> Superdave_, I just know it's netstat
[03:13] <Phr3d13> ubuntu.com, download from whatever option best suits your needs
[03:14] <UnrealPancake> I did
[03:14] <UnrealPancake> I chose 2 different options and both options arent fully allowing me
[03:14] <Loshki> Superdave_: try: netstat -an
[03:14] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: If you have like 800GB of free space on that drive. You should move ALL your files to a single folder on USB drive.   Before making your usb Bootable. (In case you're lazy to actually want to format).
[03:15] <Superdave_> Loshki: k, what am I looking for for ssh?
[03:15] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: why?
[03:16] <Loshki> Superdave_: a line like this: tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[03:16] <zephyr> Superdave_: Don't feel "low" on yourself. I don't know the commands either.    When I need help with linux, I usually google up for commands to use in terminal.          You should by now be familar with the   cd       command in windows.         You can do the same thing in linux.
[03:16] <zephyr> UnrealPancake, thought you want to install ubuntu or at least test it out from USB flash drive.
[03:17] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: I want to Dual Install Ubuntu with windows 7
[03:18] <Xeneth> Superdave_, Can you connect from inside the network?
[03:19] <zephyr> UnrealPancake, ah that's still do-able. All it takes is one USB drive with at least 800-1G of free space.
[03:19] <Phr3d13> once done downloading, mount the iso with a virtual drive software, navigate to the "drive" in explorer and find "usb-creator.exe", follow prompts, wait, then follow previous instructions
[03:19] <Xeneth> Superdave_, remeber you saying you where using port forwarding on a router
[03:19] <Superdave_> Xeneth: yep. The port is forwarded in my router too, and It doesn't make any sense why this wouldn't work...
[03:19] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: I have about 600 GB free on my HDD and a 4 GB flsh drive
[03:19] <UnrealPancake> how do I do it?
[03:19] <TeeAl> Just had one of those WTF moments where I accidentaly ran "mke2fs /dev/sda1" (windows NTFS partition) instead of "mke2fs /dev/sdb1" (flash drive). I can still read the partition content, though it wont boot. what now?
[03:20] <Xeneth> Superdave_, So if it connects from inside the network, it's on the router.  Does the router have SSH setup too?
[03:20] <Phr3d13> UnrealPancake, did you see my instructions?
[03:21] <tsukasa_> has anyone done bash autocompletion before and looking for some freelance stuff? figured i'd ask in here before hiring someone from china
[03:21] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/                  <----- That software will  put "ubuntu"      inside your  USB flash drive.          When you turn on your computer, you can ask it to boot from your USB flash  drive.
[03:21] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: I did. But I dont have a CD
[03:21] <wildbat> !recovery | TeeAI try testdisk/photorec.
[03:21] <Phr3d13> UnrealPancake, read the rest of my instructions
[03:22] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: about the ubuntu.com and download
[03:22] <wildbat> !undelete| oops this one ,TeeAl
[03:22] <Superdave_> Xeneth: Maybe... It's a cisco small business router, so It may be that advanced, but I don't use it... You think I should try a different port?
[03:22] <SetiAmon> wHAT WAS THE
[03:22] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: I have downloaded 3 different things
[03:22] <UnrealPancake> none helped
[03:22] <SetiAmon> what was the shortcut for a filename in terminal like shift or tab or something?
[03:22] <bastidrazor> !tab > SetiAmon
[03:23] <Xeneth> Superdave_, Worth a shot.  I use a Cisco 810 at home, and I had to change the public port to get it working.  That's why I thought of it.
[03:23] <SetiAmon> Weird tab isn't completing filename in terminal
[03:23] <TeeAl> wildbat: I have the file content fully readable, it's just unbootable and shown as an ext2 partition in /etc/mtab
[03:23] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: which one should I pick for the distribution?
[03:23] <bsmith093> !tab bsmith093
[03:24] <Xeneth> Superdave_, May be the Cisco that is refusing because it's not setup.
[03:24] <UnrealPancake> I have a 64 bit comp
[03:24] <TeeAl> wildbat: *blkid
[03:24] <Superdave_> Xeneth: Ok. Thanks. We'll see if that works :P Do you have a suggested port range that I should try?
[03:24] <zephyr> UnrealPancake,             You download Ubuntu  (It's an ISO/CD).         You do have to burn it.              Unetbootin will extract the .ISO you downloaded and put it on your flash drive.               (Yes, it's like burning onto Flashdrive but that's not the appropriate TERM to say).
[03:24] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: Ivhave a 64 bit comp
[03:24] <Phr3d13> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download          select 64 bit, hit start download, while waiting for download, read the rest of the page, clicking the show me how's if needed
[03:24] <zephyr> UnrealPancake,                     Then pick the    64bit version.
[03:24] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: I did that link already
[03:24] <Phr3d13> afk
[03:25] <Xeneth> Superdave_, Just don't overlap, otherwise, it does not matter.  Maybe 202, 222, 2222, ect.  That way it's easier to remember.
[03:25] <TeeAl> maybe if there was some way to convert it back to ntfs and reverse the process somehow
[03:25] <Phr3d13> read the rest of the page, clicking the show me how's if needed
[03:25] <Loshki> TeeAl: copy the data somewhere safe before you begin messing with the partition. Worst case, you may have to reinstall windows from scratch...
[03:25] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: 11.04 live? net install? hd media?
[03:25] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: I tried
[03:26] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: 10.04 Live.
[03:26] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: whats the difference between 10.04 and 11.04?
[03:26] <wildbat> TeeAI of coz it won't boot. ~ if you can still mount it as NTFS and read , back it up as needed , use testdisk change the partition type back to NTFS. or else backup the data and reformat to ntfs then restore the data.
[03:27] <TeeAl> wildbat: It gets auto-mounted as ext2
[03:27] <TeeAl> and everything is there
[03:27] <TeeAl> that's the weird thing about it
[03:28] <k1dd1saster> yoo
[03:28] <Phr3d13> UnrealPancake, make yours look like mine http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/192/screenshot1wo.png/    then click the big orange start download button
[03:28] <wildbat> TeeAI, that's strange. try manually mount as NTFS (readonly first), see if any errors.
[03:29] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: ok
[03:29] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: but whats the difference between 10.04 and 11.04?
[03:29] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: Mainly, the UNITY/Gnome3 shell/setup.                        Ubuntu Classic (Gnome 2).  http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/Taan4vBrjGI/AAAAAAAAD9w/mJIWXge_bo0/11.04classic-session.png                                                    and                      Ubuntu Unity(Gnome 3-ish but not really gnome):     http://static.arstechnica.com/unity-multi-selector.png
[03:29] <ljsoftnet> how do i uninstall dockbarx?
[03:29] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: I did that already. I have the files downloaded
[03:30] <TeeAl> wildbat: oh wait, my bad. since last reboot they switched. it is indeed marked as ntfs.
[03:30] <Phr3d13> 10.04 os older but LTS (Long Term Support), 11.04 newer, some stuff could possibly be buggy
[03:30] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: In Ubuntu 11.04, you can use Gnome Classic in case you do not like Default Ubuntu Unity.
[03:30] <Phr3d13> UnrealPancake, click the show me how next to step 2, if you're still having issues ask
[03:31] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: I did.
[03:31] <Superdave_> Xeneth: Thanks. i'll try that.
[03:31] <TeeAl> wildbat: from your experience, do you think switching it to ntfs using testdisk would do the trick?
[03:31] <wildbat> TeeAI, good then, repair the partition in partition to ntfs with testdisk, and repair bootsect if needed.
[03:32] <luchenbill> is it possible to install a chroot to run a lamp server in?
[03:32] <TeeAl> wildbat: will do. thank you very, very much!
[03:32] <Xeneth> UnrealPancake, To be expected, but 11.04 uses more resources.  My old laptop could not work with it, so the age/power of the computer should be considered.
[03:33] <wildbat> TeeAl: if it mount w/o error it should be fine. thou ~ data up important data is better. chkdsk in windows after that.
[03:33] <UnrealPancake> I have a brand new ASUS U46E
[03:33] <r3m> Hi all, is it normal that my ubuntu 10.04 do not use the bottom bar to put open windows? i need to alt+tab to see the opened windows
[03:33] <UnrealPancake> I have a brand new ASUS U46E - Xeneth
[03:33] <zephyr> luchenbill: ISPConfig server has that feature. Yes it uses Linux (Ubuntu I'm assuming you want to use),  Yes it has Apache, Mysql and PHP.      ISPconfig as I know uses CHroot.
[03:34] <luchenbill> zephyr yeah, i just installed 11.04 and I have never heard my computer run so quietly lol
[03:34] <zephyr> luchenbill: Actually.  ISPconfig is not a server, but it's a Control Panel for a server. (They expect you to install ISP config on a fresh newly made server).
[03:34] <luchenbill> and I wanted to do some local php development, without risk of getting pwned
[03:34] <wildbat> r3m: by default no, you may have removed the panel. add the Window List back or !resetpanel.
[03:35] <r3m> wildbat: thanks
[03:35] <Xeneth> UnrealPancake, In that case, it's mostly up to preference. My suggestion is to make a live CD of both, and test each.  When you decide, it's simply a matter or installing from the disk.
[03:35] <zephyr> luchenbill: Lol, is it your personal computer? You should have to worry about getting pwned. xD
[03:35] <r3m> !resetpanel r3m
[03:35] <UnrealPancake> Xeneth:  k
[03:35] <r3m> !resetpanel
[03:36] <luchenbill> haha yeah it's my personal computer
[03:36] <zephyr> luchenbill, In fact, I can be as open with security all I want, a person shouldn't have to worry unless it's a public server that is NOT inside your House. O_O
[03:36] <r3m> wildbat: thanks a lot!
[03:36] <luchenbill> well, there are ways to break out of chroot anyways no?
[03:37] <zephyr> luchenbill, now to not get pwned. You follow simple common security  tips.   Like "Don't share passwords, set proper file & directory permissions".
[03:37] <luchenbill> yeah i'm not worried about local security, just remote
[03:37] <zephyr> luchenbill: Here is what I'm doing "Right now".  I'm using: LiteSpeedTech.      http://www.litespeedtech.com/         Basically, apache/php on crack.
[03:38] <luchenbill> awesome i'll look into that!
[03:38] <zephyr> luchenbill, do you have people accessing your computer? Why not just use router security?     If no body knows your IP/host, there should be no worries.
[03:39] <luchenbill> well I mean i'm here on irc with my ip exposed etc. i'm paranoid I guess :|
[03:39] <r3m> I always need to type my password twice to login, the first time it always said bad password. i reboot like 20 time and it always do that... is it because my home folder is crypted
[03:39] <luchenbill> I guess I need to study some router security techniques :)
[03:39] <zephyr> luchenbill, if you do not like litespeed.           What I used to do is this:        Apt-get mysql               apt-get phpmyadmin                   THEN THEN I just start developing some test-php scripts so I can later upload it to my real website and go live.
[03:40] <zephyr> luchenbill, I doubt anyone would be interested in hacking you. o_O
[03:40] <Legend_Xeon> I am on dual boot with Windiws XP and ubuntu. Sometimes when i restart ubuntu, i observe that ubuntu shows large fonts and is not able to detect display monitor, it labels it "Unknown" in System > Preferences > Monitors. After restarting many times it still don't detect it. But when i shut it down and remove power cables for five minutes and restart it again, it display normal graphics and rightly shows the name of my Display monit
[03:40] <Legend_Xeon> or in System > Preferences > Monitors.
[03:40] <luchenbill> zephyr, yeah except the millions of irc drone bots etc. :|
[03:40] <Legend_Xeon> Why so?
[03:40] <zephyr> luchenbill: I would ONLY worry about that if my scripts goes to a live server. (Like x10hosting.com where I host my website at).
[03:41] <Xeneth> luchenbill, Your IP is alway's out on the INTERNET, so it's nothing big.  If you want to hide it, it's easy to setup a proxy.
[03:41] <ljsoftnet> how do i remove dockbarx?
[03:42] <TeeAl> wildbat: partition seems okay really, nothing to change much. how do I fix the boot sector?
[03:42] <luchenbill> xeneth, yeah my point exactly... I was just curious if running a lamp server environment inside a chroot was a smart way to avoid being hacked from some open port/services
[03:42] <zephyr> luchenbill, SO yeah, I doubt a handful of people knows your  IP and tries to access your computer.      So for now just get         litespeed        (While you starting fresh, it's a good idea to learn how to use litespeed).
[03:42] <luchenbill> i'm new to ubuntu/unix/linux so I have many questions really :)
[03:43] <wildbat> TeeAl: testdisk have that option too. or bootsect.exe or fixmbr in windows recover CD.
[03:43] <luchenbill> zephyr yes it looks awesome, thanks for the advice :)
[03:43] <zephyr> luchenbill, to be very honest, I do NOT know a lot about chroot.                   I'm no security Expert. But I know chroot is suppose to  lock people in a  Certain directory. It treats that Certain directory as a "root directory" where it's the furtest a person can go.
[03:44] <luchenbill> yeah I was reading up on it, it's something like a sandbox etc.
[03:44] <luchenbill> only for linux
[03:44] <k1dd1saster> 8-ball: yo
[03:44] <KNUBBIG_> k1dd1saster: A question please.
[03:44] <k1dd1saster> A question please.
[03:44] <DanF> k1dd1saster: A question please.
[03:44] <TheEvilPhoenix> stop
[03:44] <k1dd1saster> 8-ball: Am i cool?
[03:44] <KNUBBIG_> k1dd1saster: 8-ball says: Yes definitely
[03:44] <k1dd1saster> 8-ball says: Most likely
[03:44] <DanF> k1dd1saster: 8-ball says: My sources say no
[03:44] <TheEvilPhoenix> !ops
[03:45] <zephyr> Even If I knew about this and a lot about "THAT", I wouldn't invest my time learning how to do that.         I would just want to set up an http server with PHP, and get my mysql going and thats it.
[03:45] <luchenbill> wow...?
[03:45] <luchenbill> zephyr yeah I see your point
[03:45] <luchenbill> nothing a simple fresh install can't fix I guess
[03:45] <luchenbill> haha
[03:45] <bastidrazor> ljsoftnet: how did you install it?
[03:46] <r3m> I always need to type my password twice to login, the first time it always said bad password. i reboot like 20 time and it always do that... is it because my home folder is crypted
[03:46] <zephyr> I would only invest time on chroot is when I'm working on a live server OUTSIDE my home. Like if I was hired to work on a server for a friend then yea.. (Right now, I'm doing that and I'm using ISPConfig that will do all the security work for you).
[03:46] <Xeneth> luchenbill, All I know of chroot is I use it to modify ISO's.  :P  not sure it's applications for security.  My opinion though is unless you have something out there for public use, or made some enemies, good port management and password will prevent those just sniffing around.
[03:46] <k1dd1saster> chung...ya there?
[03:46] <luchenbill> cook Xeneth thanks for the advice
[03:47] <elky> Please turn off your 8-ball scripts
[03:47] <k1dd1saster> it's off man...im just learning how to write scripts just making sure i was doing it right
[03:47] <TheEvilPhoenix> k1dd1saster:  there's test channels for that, not #ubuntu
[03:47] <zephyr> My friend's server. I put ISPconfig on that.           On my own computer, I didn't. I just want to immediately test stuff.
[03:48] <elky> k1dd1saster, don't test bots here
[03:48] <TheEvilPhoenix> k1dd1saster:  /join #test or something, or if its a bot, #botters-test
[03:48] <ljsoftnet> bastidrazor manually i mean by ./setup.py
[03:48] <k1dd1saster> ok thanks...i was actually gunna ask so i dont piss people off which channel i could join
[03:48] <zephyr> k1dd1saster: Or better yet,       #GoMakeYourOwnFriggenChannelLol
[03:49] <elky> 8-ball: test
[03:49] <DanF> elky: A question please.
[03:49] <KNUBBIG_> elky: A question please.
[03:49] <k1dd1saster> yo chung join #test
[03:49] <negispringfield> !ops
[03:49] <elky> DanF, KNUBBIG_ turn off your 8ball scripts
[03:49] <Legend_Xeon> o_O
[03:49] <NegiSpringfield> !wops
[03:50] <elky> NegiSpringfield, stop. You see my name in that list you're making the bot say? That means I'm an op.
[03:50] <zephyr> elky: A question please.
[03:50] <s0f> !ops
[03:50] <zephyr> :P
[03:50] <elky> zephyr, bad dog.
[03:50] <bastidrazor> fun.. trolls at it again.
[03:50] <NegiSpringfield> wops are italians :p
[03:50] <luchenbill> wtf 8ball is oging on in here
[03:50] <elky> NegiSpringfield, stop/
[03:50] <bastidrazor> ljsoftnet: look at the documentation that came with it.
[03:51] <NegiSpringfield> elky: stop waht
[03:51] <NegiSpringfield> what
[03:51] <ljsoftnet> bastidrazor its not there
[03:51] <elky> NegiSpringfield, being disruptive.
[03:51] <NegiSpringfield> of what
[03:51] <k1dd1saster> chung...
[03:51] <k1dd1saster> cpdude...
[03:52] <Guest50946> Hello
[03:54] <Xeneth> LOL  was chatty, now I swear I can hear crickets.  :P
[03:56] <Lasers> *Chirp Chirp*
[03:57] <r3m> !resetpanel
[03:58] <Xeneth> Another one bites the dust....
[03:59] <Chynek> A good html editor?
[04:01] <Amdpc> Chynek : gedit.  :P
[04:01] <Chynek> xD, I'm a newbie, I want something that make it easy
[04:02] <Xeneth> Chynek, I use to use  notepad in windows when I took that class.  Crimson Editor was real good too.  You can get their source from their page.
[04:02] <a_p3rson> is there a way to have update manager ignore the release of 11.04?
[04:02] <somsip> Chynek: if you need something that simple, try leafpad
[04:02] <h0sting> someone tells me how to set up an FTP
[04:03] <hetal> Hello. I'm trying to use gmake, but it's not installed. I also can't find it in the maverick repos. Does that mean that I can't get it on 10.10?
[04:03] <somsip> !gmake
[04:04] <Xeneth> a_p3rson, In software sources, you should see under updates tab "Release Upgrades".  Basicly set that to long term only.
[04:04] <a_p3rson> but that will ignore futures as well
[04:04] <a_p3rson> i just dont really want to do 11.04, is there a way to ignore just that release?
[04:05] <Xeneth> a_p3rson, It will ignore anything other then LTS.  When the next one comes out you can upgrade manually.  You will have to do 11.04 if you use the manager.
[04:06] <dfcnvt> Hi, I noticed my cursor or rather my typing onto the notepad or in browser tend to disappear and I cannot see where I am typing at.. I mean, I can type to something like this, "AAA" to grab my attention but most of the time whenever I move around with my arrow's button.. I can't see where I'm going.
[04:06] <dfcnvt> Any idea how to fix this?
[04:07] <dfcnvt> It's not my cursor, it's the position where I'm destinated to type. (i'm sure u understand what i'm talking abt)
[04:07] <dfcnvt> Any idea?
[04:07] <somsip> dfcnvt: you can't see the 'insert' cursor?
[04:08] <dfcnvt> correct
[04:09] <somsip> Maybe this is a jumping off point: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy#Mouse_Cursor_Themes
[04:09] <Legend_Xeon> Sometimes on restart, ubuntu isnt able to detect Display monitor in System > Preferences > Monitors and shows crappy screen resolution.
[04:10] <Legend_Xeon> And labels it "Unknown"
[04:10] <Legend_Xeon> Is this hardware related issue?
[04:10] <dfcnvt> It's not the cursor... it's the err.. position where I'm typing right now..
[04:10] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: Any luck?
[04:11] <dfcnvt> ...okay, like if I ask you type left arrow right now then the action of a position where it moves to the left is what I'm talking about, it disappear, I can't see it.
[04:12] <dfcnvt> I can't see where it's going... I have to type AAA or DD to know where the heck I am then backspace it to go ahead and type
[04:13] <somsip> dfcnvt: in what applications?
[04:14] <paulus68> Hi Everybody, what are the requirements to install ubuntu over a network connection?
[04:14] <dfcnvt> gedit, geany, sometimes in terminal
[04:14] <dfcnvt> browser
[04:14] <dfcnvt> basically overall application.
[04:14] <dfcnvt> Sometimes it disappear then it reappear back to its normal state.
[04:14] <dfcnvt> It's annoying me.
[04:15] <db_name> hi all
[04:15] <db_name> i am newbie for linux unix
[04:15] <db_name> please help me to config for server hostpot
[04:17] <somsip> dfcnvt: i don't know the answer. I find people having similar issues when searching, sometimes attributable to compiz. So you might have to research more if no one else here can help
[04:17] <Xeneth> dfcnvt, Does it still happening after reboot?  May be a quick fix.
[04:20] <luchenbill> is it possible to watch netflix on ubuntu?
[04:21] <Xeneth> luchenbill, that I would bet yes.  no proof though.
[04:21] <savior> HURRRR
[04:22] <Pilot_51> I have a recurring problem with an unkillable zombie process (status zl) which gets inherited by init but never reaped, the only workaround to kill it that I know of is to reboot which is a bit annoying... any help?
[04:22] <Lasers> Xeneth: I'll take the bet. Now, find a proof.
[04:23] <Xeneth> luchenbill, LOL  sorry, it's late over here in the states and I'm being lazy.
[04:23] <luchenbill> lol
[04:23] <luchenbill> ay it is
[04:24] <nathanel> hello amigos! question: is ubuntu 32bit better in terms of battery life expectation?
[04:26] <Lasers> nathanel: If I have to guess, I'll say not at all. The laptop can be powered on without any OS.
[04:26] <Xeneth> nathanel, as opposed to what?
[04:26] <nathanel> as opposed to amd64 build
[04:26] <tester> exit
[04:27] <savior> DURR
[04:28] <Xeneth> nathanel, I would guess no because 64bit is designed to optimize a 64-bit CPU, but it's just a guess.
[04:29] <nathanel> ok
[04:30] <nathanel> bc the real issue is that i have an mx340 for which canon only provides i386 packages for.. and it keeps breaking my install
[04:31] <nathanel> i used to do --force-all -i with ia32-libs back on 10.04, 10,10 and 11.04.. but now its all gone to hell with new dependency names and so forth
[04:32] <savior> DURRR
[04:32] <nathanel> on another hand.. they do provide source in a tar.. i'd be willing to builf if it's any easier...
[04:33] <savior> DURRR
[04:33] <nathanel> build if*
[04:33] <Lasers> nathanel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[04:34] <nathanel> Lasers: thx
[04:34] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: its still downloading
[04:37] <leftist> has anyone successfully installed Zoiper in 11.04?
[04:37] <Lasers> nathanel: If you don't depend heavily on the printer, toss it out. Inkjet is wasting your money. In fact, all printers probably are a waste of money. Sure, you print it sometimes... If you really need one, go with me (Lasers).
[04:38] <leftist> they give the printers away like dealers give away crack but then they hook you on the ink
[04:39] <leftist> has anyone successfully installed Zoiper in 11.04?
[04:40] <Xunie> Okay, weird, I got one apache2 thread running as root, why on earth is that?
[04:40] <Xunie> Is that normal?
[04:40] <Xunie> I mean, it's the parent of all other apache2 processes, so I guess it spawns them.
[04:41] <leftist> i dunno
[04:41] <nathanel> Lasers: i do depend on it...and if it was up to me i'd get a color laser.. but $$$$$$
[04:41] <leftist> they still have you hooked
[04:41] <Lasers> nathanel: For your business?
[04:42] <leftist> unless you know how to get past the need to replace the color ink cuase most users onnly need black but htere is a trick to bypass replacing the useless colored inks
[04:42] <nathanel> Lasers: school and personal projects
[04:42] <leftist> has anyone successfully installed Zoiper in 11.04?
[04:42] <nathanel> Lasers: i'm lost on the buil d:$
[04:42] <nathanel> build *
[04:42] <Lasers> nathanel: School provides labs. Labs provides printer. :3
[04:42] <Lasers> nathanel: Maybe you're just that lazy. :<
[04:43] <SetiAmon> hey since switching from pulse to OSS4 my audio is 75% but does anyone know how to remove the remaining 25% audio distortion?
[04:43] <nathanel> Lasers: my faculty sucks at that...
[04:43] <Lasers> nathanel: Nothing beats free.
[04:43] <nathanel> Lasers: the printer isnt maintained properly and almost never functions
[04:44] <Lasers> nathanel: Report it to the school. Where are you stuck at (Compiling).
[04:44] <nathanel> Lasers: im in the source dir, opened a term
[04:45] <nathanel> asked for make
[04:45] <nathanel> i get an error on all
[04:45] <Pilot_51> Nobody knows what to do about my zombie dilemma?
[04:46] <nathanel> Lasers: get an error on all when make
[04:46] <savior> DURRRR
[04:46] <savior> HURRRRRRRRRRR
[04:46] <paulus68> what are the requirements to install ubuntu over a network connection?
[04:46] <Lasers> savior: /exit DURRRR ;o
[04:47] <qin> Pilot_51: It is called zombie coz you cannot kill it. What process is it?
[04:47] <savior> sorry i have a DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR tick
[04:47] <SetiAmon> What Delima?Zombies,kill em
[04:47] <Lasers> nathanel: You try ./configure ?
[04:47] <savior> ./DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[04:47] <gry> err?
[04:47] <Pilot_51> qin: GoogleTalkPlugi
[04:47] <nathanel> Lasers: no such file or dir
[04:48] <Lasers> The only way to kill zombies is to nuke the whole playground. (sudo reboot)
[04:48] <nathanel> you can d-ban them too lol
[04:48] <SetiAmon> I have zombieland dvr'd i should probably atch it all the way threw
[04:48] <savior> DURRRRRRRRR
[04:48] <nathanel> Lasers:.. back to compiling
[04:49] <nathanel> it sucks
[04:49] <Pilot_51> It crashed or something and I can't start it back up because apparently Google sees the zombie as the process already running
[04:49] <qin> Pilot_51: And what browser? Does it have any parent?
[04:49] <Lasers> nathanel: Are you in correct path? Honestly, I'll just put the printer in the dark corner.
[04:49] <Lasers> And get a decent Laser printer.
[04:49] <a_p3rson> Lasers: i like your analogy there
[04:49] <a_p3rson> (insert screaming mutated children with sand toys)
[04:49] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, Google?  Chrome?
[04:49] <Pilot_51> qin: Firefox 3.0.2
[04:49] <grendal-prime> i hate printers
[04:50] <grendal-prime> of any cind
[04:50] <grendal-prime> kind that is
[04:50] <savior> DURRRRRRR
[04:50] <Lasers> nathanel: "Save as PDF" -- Visit a friend -- Use friend's printer.
[04:50] <grendal-prime> i swear printer manufactures hat computer manufactures and vice versa...
[04:50] <grendal-prime> its like a contest to see who can piss the other off the most.
[04:50] <Pilot_51> After closing Firefox the zombie was inherited by init, but still doesn't get reaped as expected
[04:51] <nathanel> Lasers: i get the point.... but i'd really like it for thr driver t work
[04:51] <Lasers> Pilot_51: Chromium is quite nice. Just saying.
[04:51] <savior> HURRRRRRRRRRR
[04:51] <qin> Pilot_51: You could test it with chromium, and in the end it should terminate (hard to say when).
[04:51] <grendal-prime> ya but i know of 3 seriously important websites that chrom does not work on
[04:51] <grendal-prime> adp being the biggie
[04:51] <cantoos> ?
[04:52] <nathanel> does installing ubuntu 32bit solve these types of issues? how bad is performance
[04:52] <Pilot_51> I had an issue with Google Chrome after a recent kernel update where my PC would freeze if I play a game after running Chrome. Haven't tried it in the most recent kernel or Chrome version though
[04:52] <savior> HURRRRRRR
[04:52] <cantoos> yo
[04:52] <Xeneth> grendal-prime, Really?  I get my pay stub from adp, and it works on my chrome portable.
[04:52] <Lasers> nathanel: The performance are not noticeable between two architectures.
[04:53] <nathanel> ok
[04:53] <grendal-prime> my timecard is on there..it will not let me enter anythying in the hour fileds
[04:53] <qin> grendal-prime: What cannot be serious website, since at least 10% of people using chrome.
[04:53] <savior> DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[04:53] <nathanel> so as long as pae is there.. i get my 8 gigs and stop fiddling with amd64 compat?
[04:53] <nathanel> Lasers:so as long as pae is there.. i get my 8 gigs and stop fiddling with amd64 compat?
[04:53] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: Ah okies. Thought downloading would be done by now. Lol.
[04:53] <grendal-prime> its not just me ither mac users have the same problem...firefox works..but chrome does not
[04:53] <zephyr> @ UnrealPancake
[04:54] <qin> grendal-prime: Lazy webmaster do not make chrome bad browser.
[04:54] <cantoos> quit
[04:54] <nathanel> Lasers: I'll vm beta2 32bit and see if it gives me any errors on the drivers
[04:54] <SetiAmon> its so strange.with jaunty and the beta drivers x-fi worked fine.yet since jaunty everything hasn't worked.staticy distorted etc.removing pulse audio and installing OSS4 helps a great deal but now i have no keyboard control of my sound.and there is still staticy stuff
[04:54] <savior> DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[04:54] <nathanel> if not.. i'll just dump amd64
[04:54] <Lasers> nathanel: Sure since you don't want to part with the printer.
[04:55] <nathanel> well, I do wanna keep 64 bit... everything works out of box except for it .... even logitech is beinf nice now :)
[04:55] <nathanel> being*
[04:55] <nathanel> Lasers: well, I do wanna keep 64 bit... everything works out of box except for it .... even logitech is being nice now :)
[04:55] <paulus68> what are the requirements to install ubuntu over a network connection?
[04:56] <nac-godfather> anyone know how I can forcefully kill a process when kill and xkill fail to stop the runaway...
[04:56] <gry> nac-godfather, kill -9 ID ?
[04:56] <grendal-prime> qin ? adp?
[04:56] <nac-godfather> PXE server, pretty in depth
[04:56] <Lasers> nathanel: Well. It's just a printer. You can determine if it's worth the hassle.
[04:56] <grendal-prime> http://www.viewpoints.com/ADP-reviews
[04:56] <Lasers> nathanel: You're likely to face the same issue again and again in the future. :)
[04:56] <nac-godfather> tried it once for a couple nights, but gave up.
[04:56] <grendal-prime> chrom does not work on adp pages i have to work with..and i have to be able to log in.
[04:56] <grendal-prime> so i have firefox installed for that reason alone
[04:57] <grendal-prime> im just saying
[04:57] <wildbat> paulus68: that's you have two computers with working NIC :)
[04:57] <nathanel> Lasers: i know that.. i'm aware of the coming trouble with future releases.. but i do depend on it's scanner feature too
[04:57] <nessonic> Is there a way to run a command through SSH locally?
[04:57] <Shikhin> This is really weird. Something was leaking, and I had only few MiB of free space remaining. Somebody suggested me to use Bleachbit, and I did. However, recently, I find that I run bleachbit and in few seconds th free space drops from 12GiB to 12MiB.
[04:57] <Shikhin> HELP.
[04:58] <Shikhin> :-)
[04:58] <gry> Shikhin, with ?
[04:58] <Shikhin> gry: With my problem I described in the previous line.
[04:58] <Shikhin> (prior to that HELP)
[04:58] <zephyr> Shikhin: Ugh. No.
[04:58] <nathanel> gry: his memory leak using bleachbit
[04:59] <gry> ah
[04:59] <zephyr> Shikhin: Actually, we just can't assist you with anything anyway unless we know YOUR "issue"...
[04:59] <Lasers> grendal-prime: Have you used agent strings for Chromium?
[04:59] <qin> grendal-prime: The link was rofl, for real.
[04:59] <nathanel> can anyone build me an amd64 package.. im lost...
[05:00] <paulus68> wildbat: well that's obvious but is there a nice howto or tutorial that can come in handy to set this up ;)
[05:01] <Shikhin> zephyr: See, I have a 320GiB hard disk. I have split it into four partitions, with one dedicated to Ubuntu. On this one, I store almost nothing, except the "usual" stuff. I expect it to have around 15-20 GiB free. However, recently, I found out that it had nly 32 MiB free space left. Sinec I don't store much on it, I was surprised. I asked on this channel, and somebody said that BleachBit could "wipe out" unneccessary data. I ran BleachBit, and wo, I had 12.
[05:01] <Shikhin> And, the cycle continues.
[05:01] <TeamColtra> When does the Beta2 spin become available?
[05:01] <Shikhin> I hope that was clear enough..
[05:02] <TeamColtra> Is it timed... or is it kinda "sometime today"
[05:02] <wildbat> !netboot| paulus68, you just asked what are the requirement ;p anyway read this.
[05:02] <glebihan> nathanel, sorry didn't follow from the beginning... what is the problem exactly ? you have a 32 bits package that you want to install on a 64 bits system ?
[05:02] <Lasers> TeamColtra: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[05:02] <TeamColtra> Lasers, yes, it says today
[05:03] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: I have slow download speeds >_>
[05:03] <zephyr> Shikhin: I'm not understanding the purpose.    So basically you have a buttload of things on you harddrive, and only have 32MBs left?
[05:03] <Lasers> TeamColtra: It's Sept 22, 12:03AM.  Three minutes into today. You'll get it today when they're tying things up into knots.
[05:03] <Xeneth> Shikhin, I seem to remember bleachbit fills the partition up completly then deletes it as a way to make sure the deleted files cannot be recovered..  May be what you are seeing.
[05:03] <zephyr> Weird to have sooo many partitions. o_O
[05:04] <Shikhin> Basically, I have nothing on my 80GiB partition, and free space automagically drops from 12GiB to 32MiB in few minutes.
[05:04] <Shikhin> (nothing as in, not much)
[05:04] <nathanel> glebihan: yes.. its my mx340 drivers.. i used to do dpkg --force-all -i with ia32libs installed and everything would work great for the past 3 releases.. now it breaks my package install whenever i set them up that way.. even though they function..  I also have the source but have no idea how to compile
[05:04] <zephyr> Xeneth: AH THOSE THINGS. A Permanent file deleter.
[05:04] <ZafotheNinja> Hey all I'm new XD
[05:04] <Lasers> TeamColtra: You can get it from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ -- when it's released -- you should get the same thing.
[05:05] <TeamColtra> Lasers, I was under the understanding that Ubuntu is based in Europe (primarily) if thats the case then it is 6:04AM now I am not trying to be impatient I was just wondering if its a "when it's ready" thing or if there was a planned release time for it
[05:05] <zephyr> Shikhin: Why? Is it a software that purposely fill up your harddive to overwrite permanent?
[05:05] <Xeneth> Shikhin, zephyr, it's not a nuke, it's for an active partition.  I used it once.  It caused problems before, but that is one thing I do remember.
[05:05] <glebihan> nathanel, isn't there a README or INSTALL file in the source package ? could you post a link to that source package ?
[05:06] <Shikhin> Ok. Leave everything out. In short: Free space on my hard disk seems to be decreasing automagically every moment.
[05:06] <Lasers> TeamColtra: There are no planned release time. Yeah. Most likely "when it's ready"
[05:06] <savior> lol automagically
[05:06] <savior> awesome
[05:06] <zephyr> Shikhin: So what's really the purpose of that software that is doing that?
[05:06] <Shikhin> zephyr: Urm. I don't know what is doing that. If I did, why would I be asking here?
[05:07] <Xeneth> http://bleachbit.sourceforge.net/
[05:07] <Lasers> TeamColtra: Not to mention they're going to wait until all mirror sites get it first. That was from my experience with Ubuntu Final Releases.
[05:07] <Xeneth> The filling of the hard drive is an attempt to hide the deleted files.  Privacy for that portion
[05:07] <zephyr> Shikhin, well, if theres nothing important on those partitions, I would just reformat it.
[05:07] <TeamColtra> Lasers, thanks so since the "last date modified" shows today -- is that technically Beta2?  really I am more concerned because last time I did Alpha2 release and for whatever reason my system didn't like the changes when I switched to Beta1 (which is acceptable I know those risks when I download alpha/beta) and I had to re-install... but my current OS is like dying on me so instead of reinstalling I would rather just upgrade
[05:08] <nathanel> glebihan: nope... thats what bugs me... http://support-au.canon.com.au/P/search?model=PIXMA+MX340&menu=download&filter=0&tagname=g_os&g_os=Linux
[05:08] <Shikhin> zephyr: I have Ubuntu installed on that partition - which shows that error.
[05:08] <Shikhin> And the problem ISN'T caused by BleachBit.
[05:08] <Shikhin> I used BleachBit AFTER I observed the problem - to clean stuff up.
[05:09] <zephyr> Shikhin:  Harddrives are like               STONE WALLS.       You write data. You delete it.     You can recover it, The only way to make sure no one can recover it, you have to damage the entire stone wall.
[05:09] <paulus68> wildbat: thx
[05:09] <Lasers> TeamColtra: That can be. We won't know. Maybe we should download hashes.txt and wait until later for comparison. :)
[05:09]  * Shikhin does a facepalm.
[05:09] <Shikhin> How is that related ANYWHERE to my problem?
[05:09] <Pilot_51> Got another question: Maybe I just don't understand it, but why doesn't memory usage in System Monitor add up as expected? Example: java (Eclipse) is taking 904.2 MiB memory, 1.8GiB virtual memory, 947.4 MiB resident memory; total usage is 2.6 GiB physical and 244 KiB swap
[05:09] <beav_35> Is there any way to get promiscuous mode to work with ath9k drivers?
[05:10] <TeamColtra> I will just make the dive... :)
[05:10] <Xeneth> Shikhin, If it was the swap file, I would think it was a memory leak, but that FS isn't a leak
[05:10] <Lasers> !memory | Pilot_51
[05:10] <TeamColtra> No guts, no glory eh?
[05:10] <Pilot_51> For one, I'd expect "memory" to be physical+virtual
[05:10] <zephyr> Shikhin: A software purposely writes random useless junk data filling up your harddrive, to OVERWRITE  "freespace".  So it will not be possible to recover deleted files from "freespace".
[05:10] <wildbat> Shikhin: du to seek what is eating the space ~
[05:10] <Lasers> TeamColtra: Use zsync so you shouldn't have to download the whole ISO once Beta2 came out.
[05:11] <Shikhin> zephyr: How does that relate to my problem, again?
[05:11] <Shikhin> wildbat: How do I get to know what is eating up that space?
[05:11] <glebihan> nathanel, having a look, give me a few minutes
[05:12] <nathanel> glebihan: sur
[05:12] <zephyr> Shikhin: You mentioned something is Eating up your harddrive. I can not imagine any linux software that would do that other than a Permanent file deletion tool.
[05:12] <nathanel> sur
[05:12] <nathanel> glebihan: sure*
[05:12] <Xeneth> Shikhin, I wich I could remember where it was, but Gnome has a pie chart that will show you what is taking up your HDD space.  May want to look into that.
[05:12] <Jef91> where can I get the beta discs for 11.10?
[05:12] <Xeneth> err wish
[05:13] <Pilot_51> Lasers: I'm grazing through those pages but it doesn't seem to apply to my question
[05:13] <zephyr> Shikhin, Why not just read a file that's occupying your diskspace to figure out what it is. o_o
[05:13] <wildbat> Shikhin: if a folder / file eat 60+GB you will know . and lsof  to find the bad naughty process. or what Xeneth said if you wanna GUI.
[05:13] <Shikhin> zephyr: The problem occured before I started using Bleachbit (which I used to try to solve the problem - clearing up space).
[05:13] <harry_> Jef91:its not available on net...
[05:13] <Shikhin> Brb.
[05:13] <Jef91> harry_ don't spread trash
[05:14] <zephyr> LOL... Omg, seriously. I would had just deleted the problem and "continue on" with "clearing up space". Sheesh.
[05:14] <glebihan> nathanel, btw, before trying to compile, did you try --force-architecture instead of --force-all ?
[05:14] <zephyr> Or kill programs that has high ammount of memory usesage,
[05:14] <Lasers> Pilot_51: I googled. http://goo.gl/ZNcdp
[05:14] <nathanel> glebihan: will try
[05:14] <jcapinc> hey, can anyone suggest a generic "chat" irc room that actually has people on it?
[05:15] <Xeneth> zephyr, I think the issue was that he didn't know what was causing the proble, what file/folder was using the space.
[05:15] <Lasers> jcapinc: #defocus
[05:16] <Xeneth> I cannot type.  ... well, since it is 1am, I guess it's understandable.
[05:16] <Pilot_51> Basically the 2 main things I want a clear answer on is how to find the total physical+swap memory usage of a process in System Monitor and why does virtual memory usage not fit with swap usage?
[05:16] <nathanel> glebihan: it still asks for install -f
[05:16] <jcapinc> Thank you Lasers
[05:17] <zephyr> Xeneth: He/she is in terminal? He could has used a command to see a list of files with "sizes".
[05:17] <harry_> Jef91: what u mean frnd??
[05:17] <glebihan> nathanel, first purge the package, then run "sudo apt-get install -f" then dpkg --force-architecture
[05:17] <nathanel> did it
[05:17] <Xeneth> zephyr, true, not sure how comfortable he/she is with CLI
[05:18] <nathanel> glebihan: did that
[05:18] <zephyr> And being outside of CLI, is a whole lot easier.
[05:18] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: Im trying ti now. I hope it works.
[05:19] <Xeneth> That's why I suggested the graph, but I do not know it's location, so maybe not so much help.  :P
[05:19] <Pilot_51> Lasers: This is about inconsistencies between displayed process memory usage and displayed total memory usage, not disappearing memory or inconsistencies between top and System Monitor (I have a decent understanding of cache/buffers)
[05:19] <Lasers> Pilot_51: Yes. I have nothing to say about it. It could be just delays.
[05:20] <glebihan> nathanel, ok then i'll have a look at the source
[05:20] <Pilot_51> What delays could that be?
[05:20] <zephyr> UnrealPancake:  Do one of the following:        1. Clear the USB drive (Make necessary back ups).                       Or 2.          You could       simply   Make a folder in your USB.  move all files and folders (and hidden ones) to that new folder.
[05:20] <Lasers> Pilot_51: Reporting time. I really don't know. ;X
[05:20] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: wait, what?
[05:20] <Pilot_51> Virtual memory is the same as swap, right?
[05:20] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, The GUI would update every 5 sec for example, and the CLI would be from pressing enter.
[05:21] <Xeneth> That's where the delay could come from.
[05:21] <zephyr> UnrealPancake:   In case you have things in your USB.                     Back it up.  Clear USB.
[05:21] <Guest68263> I can't download Adeskbar? It 404 not found?
[05:21] <Jef91> where can I get the the early discs of 11.10 from?
[05:21] <Pilot_51> I'm looking at everything in System Monitor which updates every 5 seconds currently
[05:21] <glebihan> nathanel, all you should have to do to compile is extract the tarball then cd to the created folder and run "make" then "sudo make install"
[05:22] <zephyr> UnrealPancake:             OR                 --       1. Make a folder in your USB.            2.       Move all files/folders to your new folder.
[05:22] <nathanel> glebihan.. normally yes.. but it doesnt
[05:22] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: That's TWO ways to prepare your USB.
[05:22] <glebihan> nathanel, meaning ? what errors do you get ?
[05:22] <Guest68263> I can't download Adeskbar.It says 404 not found?
[05:22] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: Do you now understand?
[05:22] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: Im using the USB installer or whatever
[05:22] <nathanel> glebihan: error all ** stop
[05:22] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-Installer/Universal-USB-Installer.exe
[05:22] <UnrealPancake> that
[05:23] <zephyr> UnrealPancake, ah okay.
[05:23] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, Virtual = Swap.  True
[05:23] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: I hope im doing it right lol
[05:23] <glebihan> nathanel, there must be messages before that. Could you pastebin the full output ?
[05:23] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: I got error: Cannot delete output file D:\Ubuntu
[05:24] <UnrealPancake> whats that?
[05:24] <Pilot_51> Xeneth: So why do most of my processes show virtual memory usage in the hundreds of MiB while total swap usage just shows 244 KiB?
[05:24] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: Okay, just use unetbootin then.
[05:25] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, Not a guru in linux, so not sure.  What command you using?
[05:25] <nathanel> glebihan: http://pastebin.com/nJqxnC98
[05:25] <UnrealPancake> huh?
[05:25] <Pilot_51> Xeneth: No command, just looking at System Monitor with most of the Memory columns enabled
[05:25] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: YOu have a problem right?  I'm not familar with that software,   I use   unetbootin.sourceforge.net                       To put Ubuntu onto my USB flash drive.
[05:25] <UnrealPancake> oh well ill try this and if not ill come back k?
[05:26] <zephyr> Okay.
[05:27] <banpdtr_> Hi all , Can I send message through command line (in Ubuntu) to specific user in pidgin ??
[05:27] <zephyr> banpdtr_: Visit #Pidgin          Who told you that was possible?
[05:28] <banpdtr_> zephyr:  I believe that it is possible :)
[05:28] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, My system monitor only had Memory (RAM) and Swap (VMemory)
[05:29] <zephyr> banpdtr_: Wait, what the heck? You didn't even tell us what proticol you're sending too. What would be a good USE-CASE for that? Like what's the purpose? What's the point in that?
[05:29] <zephyr> MSN? Yahoo? Facebook? IRC? XAMPP?
[05:29] <zephyr> O_O
[05:29] <Pilot_51> Xeneth: Yeah that's in the Resources tab, it's the Processes tab where I'm not sure what the memory values exactly mean
[05:29] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, are you talking about the processes?
[05:29] <wzssyqa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/694957/  why the awk doesn,t work here?
[05:30] <banpdtr_> zephyr: XMPP
[05:30] <zephyr> banpdtr_: I do not quite understand how this is going to work. Or even the purpose.
[05:31] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, I think that memory is not current, but accumulative.  How much it has loaded from the start.  Mine is just rising only.
[05:31] <Axlin|MB> banpdtr_: Look at the script at the end of this thread. Apparently it's doable, but with that script specifically, you have to have X server running, and the chat window has to be open as well. - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-968221.html
[05:31] <Axlin|MB> banpdtr_: I do also know that there are purple-based CLI IM clients as well. Not Pidgin, but they're based on Purple, like Pidgin.
[05:31] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, NvM, it just dropped.
[05:32] <Pilot_51> Xeneth: Hmm... Well I've seen it drop before, though the one I monitor the most is Firefox which is notorious for memory leaks (I constantly need to restart it because memory gets full and starts using swap)
[05:32] <Axlin|MB> banpdtr_: Finch, that's what I was thinking of. I couldn't think of an example on the spot. :-)
[05:32] <darbe> hi guys
[05:33] <zephyr> banpdtr_: Try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=968221       "Finch is a console-based IM program that lets you sign on to AIM, Jabber, MSN, Yahoo!, and other IM networks. It runs on Unixes. It uses GLib and ncurses. "
[05:33] <darbe> is there any handy irc software for ubuntu?
[05:33] <banpdtr_> yeah.. I am looking at that.. there are some tools like purple-send and purple-remote
[05:33] <banpdtr_> :)
[05:33] <Pilot_51> darbe: I'm using XVIrc and I love it
[05:33] <Axlin|MB> darbe: Plenty! I use XChat myself. But there are several alternatives available in Software Center.
[05:33] <zephyr> banpdtr_: So you just then need documentations and tutorials/Examples.
[05:33] <Lasers> !irc | darbe
[05:34] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, The Mem in the processes is RAM.  Some may go to SWAP, but it's MEMORY + SWAP
[05:34] <darbe> i want to have something  like
[05:34] <darbe> it should pop up when somebody write
[05:34] <zephyr> darbe: Popup? O_O
[05:35] <darbe> this room is crowded
[05:35] <darbe> but other rooms
[05:35] <Xeneth> It's a PARTY!!!!
[05:35] <Pilot_51> Xeneth: If I remember correctly, resident memory = physical memory, which is usually slightly higher than memory
[05:35] <darbe> for instance i use konversation
[05:35] <Pilot_51> Another source of confusion
[05:35] <darbe> it is flashing
[05:36] <alchemy> how to set  proxy in ubuntu 11 can any one help me
[05:36] <zephyr> darbe: Use XChat.         Xchat does all what an average user wants to do over IRC. Even make scripts for XCHAT bot & such enhancements using Perl/Python and other languages.
[05:36] <Axlin|MB> darbe: If I'm interpreting that correctly, It's possible with XChat to have channel-specific popup & sound notifications when there's chat activity. I'm sure other clients are capable of the same.
[05:36] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, Physical memory is memory.  Only reason it's normally lower because the OS uses some.
[05:36] <darbe> ok thx i will try
[05:37] <zephyr> darbe: If you want that, use Konversation (Although it's a KDE app, it does install well on Ubuntu).
[05:37] <Pilot_51> darbe: I used to use XChat, but I didn't like how it lacked good notifications for mentions, which I found KVIrc to do acceptably
[05:37] <darbe> tu
[05:37] <zephyr> I personally like Konversation more than KVIRC.
[05:37] <alchemy>  how to set  proxy in ubuntu 11 can any one help me
[05:38] <darbe> yeah it is poping up
[05:38] <darbe> can I see last ten?
[05:38] <zephyr> alchemy: System -> Preferrences -> Network Proxy
[05:38] <darbe> because it only shows last line
[05:39] <zephyr> darbe, I just like Konversation more.
[05:39] <darbe> me either
[05:39] <darbe> but I need to take care of it
[05:39] <darbe> I should open each time
[05:39] <zephyr> It does "last messages", you can pick how many lines it should be for last said messages.      Konversation is better for notifications.
[05:40] <darbe> ok let;s try
[05:40] <zephyr> You can hide Konversation in your tray.
[05:40] <zephyr> It's Very configurable.
[05:40] <zephyr> Identity list is to DIE FOR.
[05:40] <darbe> pop up?
[05:41] <zephyr> That xchat lacks darbe.
[05:41] <zephyr> Popup like "new window"?
[05:41] <darbe> no
[05:41] <zephyr> Or Highlighters? Notification popup?
[05:41] <zephyr> It does that.
[05:41] <darbe> small wnidows
[05:41] <darbe> window on the corner
[05:41] <darbe> or some where
[05:41] <Pilot_51> Xeneth: I guess what's really needed is proper documentation on exactly what the columns mean. It's not in the help files and so far haven't found anything online.
[05:41] <zephyr> Yes. Althought tht's not a window. That's Notification.
[05:42] <zephyr> Fading away message, that sorta thing.
[05:42] <darbe> where is it?
[05:42] <zephyr> It even makes sounds and you can pick what soudns it will make depending on What Happens on IRC.
[05:42] <darbe> i found it
[05:43] <darbe> it should be defaulrt
[05:43] <darbe> :D:D
[05:43] <Pilot_51> Xeneth: It's clear that they don't mean what I (and albeit most people) think they mean, especially the virtual memory column which adds up to be much higher than total physical+swap usage
[05:43] <zephyr> darbe, it makes popups like this: http://gadgetinspiration.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/gmailnotifier.jpg          <---- Notification boxes.
[05:44] <zephyr> darbe, you will LOVE this irc client, trust me.                 My only complaint is that this is made for KDE.
[05:44] <darbe> thank you
[05:44] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, True, but that's linux in general.  I believe the memory column in processes is revering memory usage.  Makes no distinguation between physical or swap.
[05:44] <darbe> i enable it  but i don't see
[05:44] <darbe> :S:S
[05:44] <zephyr> Someone should Fork and make a GTK/Gnome or something VERY LIGHT version of KDE.
[05:45] <zephyr> Like an Xchat but better.
[05:45] <darbe_> try
[05:45] <zephyr> ^Konversation IRC client I speak of.
[05:45] <darbe_> try
[05:45] <zephyr> Gonversation or something.
[05:45] <Pilot_51> darbe: This might help too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_clients
[05:45] <glebihan> zephyr, should it be called Gonversation ?
[05:46] <zephyr> glebihan: Nah, That term was only to glue an idea to anyone's mind.
[05:46] <darbe_> try
[05:46] <darbe_> try
[05:46] <darbe_> tt
[05:46] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, LOL  it's late, and my typing is going down hill.  :P
[05:46] <FloodBot1> darbe_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:46] <Xeneth> I'm out people.  Night
[05:46] <darbe_> YAHOOO IT WORKS
[05:46] <darbe_> linux is crazy
[05:47] <Pilot_51> Xeneth: night
[05:47] <darbe_> i just though it founded long time ago
[05:47] <zephyr> I would prefer to call it something else. Not make it for gnome, but something  like how XCHAT & Chatzilla made their IRC client.
[05:48] <zephyr> I tried to make an IRC cleint, but failed.
[05:48] <darbe_> zephyr<<<< thanks a lot
[05:48] <zephyr> You're welcome.
[05:49] <zephyr> darbe_, edit your "Identification" list, you'll then see why Konversation is so sexy.
[05:50] <zephyr> A personal profile, a set of nicknames and all that jazz for each irc network you go to, and you can duplicate that too.
[05:51] <glebihan> zephyr, a quick look at Konversation... and I'd say it's pretty much impossible to port it to gtk
[05:53] <zephyr> glebihan: Very true, I would better off Make that client from SCRATCH.   Starting by making it have features like Konversation. BUT let it handle text like Xchat
[05:53] <Pilot_51> Ah, I remember why I didn't try Konversation despite being so good. Didn't want to install the kde dependencies
[05:53] <zephyr> Pilot_51: Exactly!!!
[05:54] <Pilot_51> So... KVIrc, from what I've tried, is the best IRC client for Gnome
[05:54] <ninwa> Pilot_51, really, not xchat?
[05:54] <zephyr> They hadn't released a stable for like a year now going on to two.
[05:54] <zephyr> ninwa: Xchat got that stupid window-ing system.
[05:54] <Pilot_51> ninjah: Really, I used XChat for maybe a year, wasn't satisfied with it
[05:54] <ninwa> zephyr, not sure what you're talking about
[05:54] <ninwa> Pilot_51, hm, I guess my needs are simpler than yours
[05:55] <zephyr> Pilot_51: The ONLY thing good about KVIRC is    a more detailed customization, and IRC-Log viewer.
[05:55] <zephyr> Or and scripting.
[05:55] <glebihan> scripting works well in xchat
[05:55] <zephyr> ninwa: That dumb Tabs system.          The first channel window being Status window. Some crap like that.
[05:55] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[05:56] <Pilot_51> It has a really nice way to separate channel system messages (join/part/etc) from the chat
[05:56] <ninwa> I guess I don't spend enough time caring about my IRC client :p
[05:56] <Pilot_51> But as I said, my main problem with XChat was a lack of decent mention notifications
[05:57] <ninwa> Pilot_51, there's probably a plugin for that, but it highlights the chan in the treeview as blue
[05:58] <gnosis> i just installed a new 1TB hdd and formatted it as ext3.  nautilus is showing 46.8GB used, 870.1GB free (917GB total size).  df -h shows 200M used, 871GB available.  anyone know what could be taking up those 46GB?
[05:58] <Pilot_51> ninwa: Wasn't enough for me... anyway we should respect the offtopic warning
[05:59] <ninwa> Pilot_51, im too new here to argue with that ;)
[05:59] <cypha> does ubuntu have hibernate?
[05:59] <urlin2u> gnosis, the amount on the box and actual is aboit that difference.
[05:59] <urlin2u> abiut
[05:59] <glebihan> cypha, yes
[05:59] <cypha> glebihan, how do I do it?
[05:59] <cypha> sudo hibernate 0?
[05:59] <ninwa> cypha, or click hibernate in the system menu (upper right, the power icon)
[05:59] <cypha> from the Cl
[06:00] <cypha> CL
[06:00] <glebihan> cypha, I think it's "pm-hibernate" (never used it though)
[06:00] <urlin2u> gnosis, look at it with gparted.
[06:00] <gnosis> urlin2u: are you talking about the difference between advertised size and actual number of bytes?
[06:01] <cypha> glebihan, you got it
[06:01] <cypha> thanks
[06:01] <glebihan> cypha, you're welcome
[06:01] <zephyr> Although I know about hibernation, I never found a good usecase/point of hibernation. I do not even do that on my Windows machine.
[06:01] <gnosis> because i know about that.  it's showing total size as 917GB, which is what i expected
[06:01] <ninwa> zephyr, uh, resume a session?
[06:01] <urlin2u> gnosis, yes I think you may be reading it wrong, hard to look at it with gparted and see if there is 46 gigs of data.
[06:01] <gnosis> but after that, it's showing 46GB as used.  i don't understand what could be using that much space on a brand new drive
[06:01] <zephyr> Unless it's to save a bit of electricity.
[06:02] <zephyr> Or move the computer to another location.
[06:03] <kleopatra> Hello, is Lapack++ 2.5.2 up to date?
[06:03] <ninwa> im always mixing up hibernate / suspend, I know one only keeps memory powered, the other writes to hd and shuts down
[06:03] <gnosis> urlin2u: gparted shows size=931GB, used=15GB, unused=917GB
[06:03] <ninwa> sleep is another term used sometimes
[06:03] <gry> ninwa: hibernate wipes to hdd
[06:03] <ninwa> gry, okay :)
[06:03] <gry> :)
[06:04] <zephyr> ninwa: I never got the suspend option to work, what's the real purpose behind it. After I try doing that, I'm locked out my computer and cant do anything with it except force shut down.
[06:04] <gnosis> urlin2u: then nautilus shows total capacity as 917GB, 46GB used, and 870GB free
[06:04] <ninwa> zephyr, the idea is you dont have to post, so you save on time from "power button clicked to in your environment"
[06:04] <urlin2u> gnosis, so nothing is on it at all?
[06:05] <zephyr> ninwa: Before  I force shut down I would tap the power button and see if anything special happens. Nothing happened.
[06:05] <gnosis> urlin2u: no, bought brand new from newegg.  i just took it out of the box, installed, and formatted as ext3
[06:05] <ninwa> zephyr, it may be turned off in your bios
[06:06] <zephyr> Okay, then that's something to look up in mmy boios later.
[06:06] <urlin2u> gnosis, open it hit ctrl-h to show hidden,maybe there is a trash hidden, not sure really.
[06:07] <Kartagis> good morning. I have a problem with pnopaste. it doesn't highlight syntax. help me?
[06:08] <gnosis> urlin2u: did that.  there's only an empty lost+found folder.  du -sh shows it as 16K
[06:10] <melvincv_> Hi
[06:11] <gry> hi melvincv_
[06:11] <gnosis> so gparted shows 15GB used, nautilus shows 46GB, df shows 200MB, du shows 20K,
[06:11] <gnosis> gparted says 917GB free, everything else says 870GB
[06:12] <melvincv_> I have Ubuntu 11.04. Empathy keeps changing my status to away after 1 or 2 minutes. How may I prevent this?
[06:13] <ninwa> Is there a way to disable the overlay scrollbars in 11.04?
[06:13] <urlin2u> gnosis, why ext3?
[06:14] <urlin2u> ninwa, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-disable-overlay-scrollbars-in.html
[06:14] <gnosis> urlin2u: why not?  is there a more appropriate file system to use?
[06:14] <androidTed> can you ignore/hide JOINs messages from Empathy?
[06:15] <wildbat> how to enable overlay scrollbars on 10.04 :p
[06:15] <urlin2u> gnosis, not sure the OS is ext4.
[06:15] <ninwa> example #232413 of something that should be accessible via a systems settings gui.
[06:15] <gnosis> my OS drive is ext3
[06:15] <melvincv_> Let me see if there are any Empathy settings in gconf-editor...
[06:16] <melvincv_> Hope this can prevent Empathy from setting my status to away all the time :(
[06:16] <urlin2u> gnosis, you running windows as well? the partitions changed to ext4 a while back
[06:18] <urlin2u> not much difference just curious
[06:18] <melvincv_> Oops, I can't find empathy in gconf-editor :( Really sad that  can't customize it. Linux is all about customization, right?
[06:18] <urlin2u> melvincv_, yeah and knowing what your doing.:D
[06:19] <gnosis> urlin2u: yeah, have a ntfs partition on the same drive with xp installed
[06:20] <melvincv_> @urlin2u:  Can you help me with my issue?
[06:24] <urlin2u> melvincv_, never used it I see on the web though that others seem to have that problem.
[06:25] <melvincv_> urlin2u, thanks.
[06:28] <gnosis> urlin2u: figured it out: http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=102175
[06:28] <gnosis> 5% of space reserved for superuser
[06:30] <h2010n> hi
[06:30] <kokozedman> hey guys, i'm programming a software that connects to a single host, but i have several ppp routes/gateways and i want to use them as to make use of all bandwidth... any ideas?
[06:33] <wildbat> kokozedman: bind the connections to different IPs of the NICs, (assuming each have route to the targeted IP).
[06:33] <kokozedman> i'm able to do it partially using nexthop (ip), but only one single route is used at a time, then when i stop the program, then the next one is used
[06:34] <kokozedman> wildbat, i thought of doing that, but that wouldn't be flexible at all, because the PPP links comes and go
[06:35] <kokozedman> it would be much more efficient to just have the program send to one single host, then it is up to the system to just alternate via the available routes/gateways
[06:37] <wildbat> kokozedman: unless you have a single public routable ip for you local PC and do balance with routing ~ rethink your protocol.
[06:39] <|Gff|> can somebody explain why  xfs_rtcp /root/1.mpg /mnt/1/ew_media   does not work in ubuntu  but works in opensuse
[06:40] <kokozedman> wildbat, it's a pretty easy application, and is just a client-server UDP... are you knowledged about the ip route ... nexthopt ... nexthop? because it is already working, but i have to flush the route very frequently for that...... i could also do it if found a way to just flush the route to that specific host
[06:41] <kokozedman> i don't have enough knowledge programming this kind of route flushing
[06:41] <kokozedman> so, i thought i'd ask if anyone knows.... in C
[06:44] <|Gff|> can somebody explain why  xfs_rtcp /root/1.mpg /mnt/1/ew_media  command does not work in ubuntu  but works in opensuse
[06:45] <wildbat> kokozedman: i think you just need to bind to the IP ~ the network should take care of it ~ try in  ##c  that's for programming
[06:50] <|Gff|> what linux kernel does 11.4 use
[06:52] <faLUCE> hi. Is it possible to have two /etc/rc.local files ? Or something similar
[06:55] <|Gff|> what linux kernel does 11.4 use
[06:56] <urlin2u> 2.6.38-11 as of now
[07:05] <|Gff|> how do i get ubuntu with version 2.7 or higher
[07:05] <Ibis> |Gff|: That's old o.O
[07:06] <Ibis> |Gff|: Are you talking about Gnome / Unity?
[07:06] <|Gff|> no kernel version
[07:06] <Ibis> Ah those.
[07:06] <rww> |Gff|: There is no kernel 2.7. Linux changed versioning schemes a long, long time ago, and eventually went straight from 2.6 to 3.0.
[07:07] <|Gff|> oh
[07:07] <|Gff|> how do i get unbuntu with 3.0 then
[07:07] <Myrtti> |Gff|: why do you want it?
[07:07] <rocco> 1LIST
[07:07] <|Gff|> because 3.0 fix a bug that i need
[07:07] <|Gff|> fixed
[07:08] <Ibis> Summary: Besides a new version numbering scheme, Linux 3.0 also has several new features: Btrfs data scrubbing and automatic defragmentation...             <---- Defragmention?  o_O
[07:08] <Ibis> I thought that was a windows only thing.
[07:09] <|Gff|> http://www.xfs.org/index.php/XFS_Status_Updates
[07:09] <|Gff|> ibis it says it fixed a xfs bug
[07:14] <Ibis> |Gff|: You might want to have a look here: http://techtimely.wordpress.com/2011/08/19/install-linux-kernel-3-0-on-ubuntu-11-04/
[07:15] <|Gff|> ibis why not just get ubuntu with 3.0
[07:15] <emr> i have script which i want to run every 09:09 am so i created cron job somethink like  -- 8 9 * * *  -- but its not working as i excepted, is there something wrong?
[07:16] <Myrtti> |Gff|: there is no release version of Ubuntu with 3.0 yet
[07:16] <susundberg> emr: Pass the full line please. Also check that the script is runnable for the user executing the cron
[07:16] <Myrtti> |Gff|: that's why
[07:17] <emr> susundberg, sure, 8 9 * * * cd /var/www/project/ && /usr/bin/python manage.py updatecurrencies
[07:17] <emr> scripts running perfectly
[07:17] <|Gff|> myrtti  what about other distro?
[07:18] <Myrtti> |Gff|: if you can wait for few weeks there is a new release of Ubuntu with 3.0, or you could try the beta release; be aware tho that beta is beta, it may break other things, and it's not supported on this channel
[07:19] <rabbi1> guys, please help my GRUB is not loading
[07:19] <Ibis> Myrtti: Wait, that will be Ubuntu 11.somethingNew     ?
[07:19] <susundberg> emr: and the problem excatly is that it seems like cron is not running the scripts or ?
[07:20] <rww> Ibis: 11.10. year.month
[07:20] <Myrtti> Ibis: well, yes. Ubuntu has a new version every six months
[07:20] <susundberg> emr: do you get mail from the cron output -- checking that might give you hint what is going wrong. I usually prefer doing small scripts (say cron_run_this.sh) that contains the commands and keep the crontab clean
[07:20] <susundberg> emr: that is i not sure how the line "cd /var/www/project/ && /usr/bin/python manage.py" is handled -- the "&&" marks
[07:20] <Ibis> emr: Why   8 9 * * *?               SHouldn't it be: 9 9 * * * ?
[07:21] <Lasers> Ibis: 11.10 Beta2 should be coming out today.
[07:21] <tensorpudding> what's the rules of freezes?
[07:21] <tensorpudding> will they fix the bugs that i've reported in beta 1...
[07:21] <tensorpudding> i hope so
[07:21] <Ibis> What's the difference between using        &              and      &&           in between terminal commands?
[07:21] <emr> susundberg, i have something like this, command logging to db when execute, and its seems working in wrong time  on every 12:08:02
[07:21] <Myrtti> Ibis: && waits for the first command to finish successfully
[07:22] <tensorpudding> && is for AND
[07:22] <Ibis> Ah, that makes sense Myrtti.       And      & is a "do it at the same time" Sweet.
[07:22] <rww> Ibis: they do completely different things. & moves the aforementioned process to the background and runs the second one in parallel. && runs the second one when the first one is done if and only if the first one exits with a non-error return value
[07:22] <emr> Ibis, i have a several scheduled command so its best slot to run
[07:22] <tensorpudding> doesn't it get the exit value of the first command and use that to determine whether to run the next, or something?
[07:22] <rabbi1> all of a sudden my ubuntu crashed (or kinda crashed) how can i solve it. nothing's working good... not even ALT-Ctrl-F1/ F2/ F3
[07:23] <emr> ohh men i didnt check server time, its utc, thanks susundberg i got the point
[07:24] <ssargennto> Hello all, got a WD external hdd that had a windows file system on it.. So i used gparted to format it with a ext4 file system but it says the hdd is owned by root and will not let me add/remove information on it.. I've tried changing permissions but no luck. Any ideas?
[07:25] <Ibis> Myrtti: Speaking of the whole 3.0 linux kernal, no one decided to jump ubuntu to that to iron out any kernal related bugs?
[07:25] <ikonia> ssargennto: could you please pastebin the output of "mount"
[07:27] <Myrtti> Ibis: jump which ubuntu? btw kernal is something that was in Commodore 8-bit, in Linux it's kernel ;-)
[07:28] <moskva> !ops
[07:28] <Flannel> moskva?
[07:28] <jpds> moskva: Да?
[07:28] <ssargennto> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/C7h8xTq9
[07:30] <rabbi1> how can i recover my ubuntu from crash , will other version LIVE CD will help me?
[07:31] <ikonia> ssargennto: I assume the disk is the one on /media/EXTERNAL
[07:31] <ikonia> rabbi1: depends on the reason it crashed
[07:31] <ssargennto> ikonia, yeah /dev/sdb1 on /media/External
[07:31] <ikonia> ssargennto: ok, so what is your username "tony" ?
[07:31] <ssargennto> ikonia, yup. correct
[07:32] <ikonia> ssargennto: so "sudo chown -R tony:tony /media/External"
[07:37] <rabbi1> ikonia: may be virtualbox
[07:37] <ikonia> rabbi1: what ?
[07:37] <iWang> is there any way to add an action key in grub2 for one function!
[07:37] <ssargennto> ikonia, thank you very much kind sir. works great now :)
[07:37] <ikonia> iWang: I don't think grub will support that as it's quite a dumb enviornment
[07:38] <rabbi1> ikonia: i had opened virtualbox and then openoffice application before it crashed. suddenly the screen went off. then i restarted,
[07:38] <rabbi1> now it says GRUB loading and doesn't load anything
[07:38] <iWang> just add a hotkey to invoke a program or small os to do something
[07:38] <ikonia> rabbi1: do you get the grub menu ?
[07:38] <rabbi1> ikonia: nope,
[07:39] <rabbi1> "GRUB Loading" and then blank screen
[07:39] <ikonia> rabbi1: I wonder if your disk has failed, can you boot from a livecd and mount the disk ?
[07:39] <rabbi1> even unable to get ctrl+alt + f1/f2
[07:39] <rabbi1> ikonia: trying that, burning a cd now
[07:40] <ikonia> rabbi1: you won't be able to use ctrl+alt on grub, it's not booted the OS yet
[07:40] <rabbi1> ikonia: yeah, now i can just see a cursor blinking on deep black screen
[07:41] <killjoy> Hello All
[07:41] <jeffery> hello
[07:42] <iWang> ikonia: i met before on BIOS+GPT system w/o biso_grub partition
[07:42] <ikonia> iWang: then that's nothing to do with ubuntu
[07:44] <killjoy> Im looking for people to help me write some Linux information content onto my site
[07:44] <ikonia> killjoy: try ##linux
[07:44] <rabbi1> ikonia: so, should check with CD now ?
[07:44] <killjoy> i did im just asking in here too
[07:45] <ikonia> rabbi1: at least see if you could mount it
[07:45] <killjoy> its www.planetrewired.com
[07:45] <rabbi1> ikonia: okies
[07:45] <ikonia> killjoy: please don't ask in here, we only do ubuntu support discussion in here
[07:45] <killjoy> oh ok
[07:45] <killjoy> sorry
[07:45] <ikonia> killjoy: and you didn't just ask in ##linux - so please don't lie
[07:45] <killjoy> whats your prob
[07:46] <killjoy> i havent made it there yet
[07:46] <ikonia> killjoy: then don't lie and say "I did ask in there, I'm asking here too"
[07:46] <killjoy>  ok im sorry im going too
[07:46] <killjoy> is that better?
[07:46] <ikonia> yes
[07:48] <SetiAmon> Anyway to make the original X-fi beta drivers to work with latest linux
[07:49] <AndroidLoverInSF> can anyone help, something on my ubuntu 10.10 is sharing my home dir as $username-home, example  john-home, and its readable by any pc!!  what's doing that?
[07:49] <SimonJai> samba?
[07:49] <SimonJai> or smb
[07:49] <SimonJai> ...maybe
[07:50] <AndroidLoverInSF> its not listed under the gui samba server config tool
[07:50] <ikonia> AndroidLoverInSF: do you have a smb.conf file ?
[07:50] <alter> приавд
[07:51] <AndroidLoverInSF> yes
[07:51] <idefix> are you all highly gifted?
[07:52] <AndroidLoverInSF> no
[07:52] <alter> приветик
[07:54] <scarleo> Is there any way to see in beforehand if an update will require a reboot?
[08:01] <DaBing001> hello
[08:01] <DaBing001> the first time to come
[08:02] <Myrtti> DaBing001: welcome
[08:06] <AndroidLoverInSF> i look in /etc/smb.conf but cant find where its sharing that home dir. there's a [homes] section but thats not exactly it
[08:07] <burg> hello. what is the best partition scheme for ubuntu server?
[08:07] <Corey> !best
[08:07] <burg> a good partition scheme, then
[08:07] <Myrtti> burg: you need to be more precise with what you plan to do on that server
[08:08] <burg> web server. multiuser
[08:08] <Osky> hi LL
[08:08] <Myrtti> we don't know what you are planning to do so we can't suggest anything
[08:08] <SetiAmon> can anyone help me install the original beta drivers for x=fi.Pulse/oss4 is no where near as good as the original beta drivers.but they won't compile
[08:09] <Lasers> Is XFCE faster than GNOME or is it more of a myth?
[08:09] <Guest35270> hi !
[08:09] <Lasers> To be honest, I don't care. Just something stable for the netbook.
[08:09] <Guest35270> i am on ubuntu 9.10
[08:09] <gry> Lasers, both are stable for the netbook normally
[08:09] <burg> Myrtti, i intend to use it as a web server
[08:09] <Guest35270> and i want to upgrade release to 10.0.4.3
[08:10] <Guest35270> but no release upgrade was proposed
[08:10] <Guest35270> how can i do the release ?
[08:10] <Lasers> !upgrade | Guest35270
[08:10] <rww> !eol
[08:10] <rww> second link
[08:11] <melvincv_> I have a small doubt: Will Evolution get corrupt on upgrading ubuntu from 10.10 to 11.04?
[08:11] <TeslaTony> Lasers: My experience with XFCE vs GNOME 2.x is that XFCE is faster, though not by too much most of the time (unless you turn on wiggly windows). GNOME 3 seems a lot slower
[08:11] <Lasers> Guest35270, melvincv_: Always make a backup! (Just because you ought to!)
[08:11] <rww> melvincv_: shouldn't do, but you should back up your files before upgrading as a general rule anyway
[08:12]  * ActionParsnip misses karmic
[08:12] <mosno> ActionParsnip, how so
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> mosno: it was a good release
[08:12] <Lasers> TeslaTony: I see. Thank you for the input.
[08:12] <melvincv_> 'Backup Evolution settings' is an option, but what all does it back up?
[08:12] <mosno> ActionParsnip, how so
[08:13] <melvincv_> Does it backup my mail too?
[08:13] <bilygates> @TeslaTony Lasers I prefer XFCE over GNOME too, but I couldn't get vsync to work in xfce at all. :(
[08:13] <Guest35270> i have done all instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:13] <Guest35270> but always end with a "no new release found"
[08:14] <TeslaTony> Lasers: Give 'em both a try, though. You might find there's something in one that the other doesn't, that tilts the scales for you, like bilygates comment
[08:14] <SetiAmon> anything wrong with going back to a older version of ubuntu like jaunty?
[08:14] <rww> SetiAmon: yes, you don't get security updates, or support here or officially
[08:14] <SetiAmon> I never had any problem with jaunty.would it be ok to go to 9.4 or 9.10?
[08:14] <melvincv_> Ok, how do I backup evolution completely, settings, contacts and mail?
[08:14] <Guest35270> 9.4 to 9.10 => OK
[08:14] <Lasers> TeslaTony: I'm going to sell it. That's why. I was thinking about EasyPeasy. Something simple and hogging-free for netbook.
[08:15] <Guest35270> butr 9.10 -> 10.4.3 = no new release found
[08:15] <melvincv_> !ubuntu 11.10
[08:15] <SetiAmon> i don't see how i have perfect audio in jaunty and then in later versions sound is wrecked
[08:15] <SetiAmon> that doesn't seem right.there must be a way to fix audio?
[08:16] <Luke_007> hi, i'm back
[08:16] <TeslaTony> Lasers, GNOME 2, XFCE, or LXDE. They're pretty headache-free
[08:16] <vAne> je
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> SetiAmon: different drivers in the kernel, different alsa version
[08:23] <sl00> Gaah! I am going nuts! I have been compiling a program for days on one machine (using libc-2.12.1.so it seems), ftp'ing it to another machine and running it there. Now all of a sudden it complains about " /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found". How is that possible? I have not been doing any upgrades or anything on the machines!
[08:24] <Besnik_b> Hello, I'm having a problem with my eeePC touchpad. It worked for few days after installing Ubuntu 11.04 (naty) and after trying a wireless mouse it stopped working. It looks like working while doing the login but stops after that. Any hint?
[08:24] <Luke_007> Could anybody tell me how to search a package accurately by using commend?
[08:25] <mix228911> hello
[08:25] <mix228911> good morning
[08:26] <mix228911> linux rocks
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> Luke_007: 'search a package' how do you mean?
[08:26] <Luke_007> when I using apt-cache search , a lot of package come out but not what I needed.
[08:26] <OldBoyAdidas> hi, im interested in using ubuntu but havent used it yet
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> Luke_007: you can grep the output to reduce results
[08:26] <Guest35270> i can't upgrade to 10.0.4.3
[08:26] <Guest35270> so i try to remove  / install update-core-manger
[08:26] <Guest35270> i have that: http://pastebin.com/aD6QdEcN
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> OldBoyAdidas: the install CD will allow you to test the OS without modifying your current OS
[08:26] <Guest35270> idea ?
[08:27] <TeslaTony> OldBoyAdidas: What will it take to bring you over to the open source side? And yes, try the LiveCD. Or LiveUSB.
[08:27] <mix228911> rude boy
[08:27] <luca_> salve a tutti, qualcuno può aiutarmi?
[08:27] <Luke_007> ActionParsnip Oh, I'll try then
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest35270: did you add the lines t sources.list like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades  says to?
[08:28] <luca_> hello everyone, can someone help me?
[08:28] <rww> !it
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> luca_: with details, yes. Otherwise no
[08:28] <Guest35270> I am in 9.10
[08:29] <rww> Guest35270: what's the output of uname -a?
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest35270: same method
[08:29] <Guest35270> root@ltsp_a31:~# uname -a
[08:29] <Guest35270> Linux ltsp_a31 2.6.31-23-generic #75-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 18 18:16:06 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:29] <elfranne> join #perl
[08:29] <rww> that disproves my theory, then
[08:30] <blinkiz> Hello. Am using ubuntu 11.04. The Network icon is missing from the unity panel. Network is also not working. Please advice
[08:30] <Lasers> LTS ._.
[08:30] <Lasers> LTSP*
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest35270: the page I gave the link to shows how to upgrade. Personally I would just clean install Natty, or even Oneiric
[08:30] <mix228911> rude boy
[08:30] <Guest35270> ok update-manager-core installed but no more new release found
[08:30] <rww> mix228911: something we can help you with?
[08:30] <Guest35270> it's a production server
[08:30] <luca_> i am using ubuntu 11.04, my problem is that i recived a cad file via mail, when i try to open it with a cad software i get the message "impossible to open the file check the permissions
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest35270: read the page I linked, it tells you everything you need to know
[08:31] <Guest35270> i can clean install
[08:31] <Guest35270> can't*
[08:31] <Guest35270> i do every thing
[08:31] <Guest35270> but no new release proposed
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest35270: did you read the link at all?
[08:32] <Guest35270> yes
[08:35] <Luke_007> ActionParsnip e.g I wanna install a package named "DIA", I'm using command apt-cache search dia. Other packages whose name contains "dia" come out also.
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Luke_007: if you want to install dia then run:  sudo apt-get install dia
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Luke_007: you don't need to search for it as you already know the package name
[08:37] <angelete2> hi
[08:37] <grandon> hmm
[08:37] <angelete2> i'm using ubuntu server 11.04 and i'm getting some performance problems
[08:37] <Luke_007> Oh, it works! Before it is installed. It shows what packages will be installed. Thanks a lot
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> Luke_007: np :)
[08:37] <grandon> system info?
[08:37] <Luke_007> :)
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> angelete2: in which app or just generally?
[08:38] <angelete2> i've installed into a virtual machine with 512Mb RAM (it's not so much, but i thought it was enough) and my apache sometimes refer me problems allocating memory
[08:39] <scarleo> Is there any way to see in beforehand if an update will require a reboot?
[08:39] <angelete2> i have another VM with fedora 7 256Mb and it works right
[08:40] <luca_> i am using ubuntu 11.04, my problem is that i recived a cad file via mail, when i try to open it with a cad software i get the message "impossible to open the file check the permissions
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> angelete2: 512Mb should be ok for a web box imho
[08:40] <scarleo> I mean I know kernel updates require reboot but I mean like apt telling me before installing that the update will require a reboot
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> luca_: does your user have read access to the file?
[08:41] <angelete2> ActionParsnip, i thought so, but i don't know why i'm getting this errors
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> angelete2: have you asked in #ubuntu-server too?
[08:41] <TeslaTony> scarleo: I don't believe so. I've never run into a situation, though, where the computer forces me to reboot before I can do anything
[08:41] <angelete2> maybe will be better, i didn't notice this channel, sorry
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> scarleo: if you don't reboot it doesn't affect the OS, you just have a kernel update which needs one to load the new stuff, that'ss all. The OS can happily run fiorever more without you rebooting
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> angelete2: no need to apologise ;)
[08:42] <scarleo> TeslaTony: No oc it doesn't force me, it's not windoze we're talking abt, but it would still be sweet if it could tell me that it needs to reboot to complete the update before I actually do the update
[08:44] <eypal> hello, is here anybody from Canonical Ltd?
[08:44] <scarleo> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I can still see a point in being told before committing the update that it will require a reboot to complete
[08:44] <luca_> action partnership, yes, i have done the sudo chmod 777 file.dwg and tryed the sudo chmod 644 file.dwg too
[08:45] <Guest35270> i test everything in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[08:45] <Guest35270> and no new release found each time
[08:45] <Guest35270> wtf ?
[08:45] <mix228911> i don't know how to install "Kazam" software ,i've tryed to search it under software center & under termenal
[08:46] <Free-man> mornin
[08:46] <mix228911> morning
[08:46] <mix228911> sudo apt-get install kazam not work for me
[08:48] <Guest35270> anyone have a idea ?
[08:48] <Free-man> who has a distro non-specific prob
[08:48] <Free-man> non-distro specific
[08:48] <Guest35270> i put the sources.list with  old-releases  sources
[08:49] <Guest35270> but same
[08:49] <Guest35270> no new release proposed
[08:49] <jrib> !enter | Guest35270
[08:49] <jrib> Guest35270: what release are you currently on?
[08:49] <Guest35270> i'm currently in 9.10
[08:49] <jrib> Guest35270: what did you put in your sources.list?
[08:49] <Free-man> Guest35270 IOW, write english sentences :)
[08:49] <m1ndsurfer> What repository do I have to add so I can install Apache Ant 2.2 from Synaptic in Ubuntu 10.4? (it's hard to google for...)
[08:50] <Guest35270> sorry for my poor englis
[08:50] <TeslaTony> mix228911, try http://whyareyoureadingthisurl.wordpress.com/2010/09/05/kazam-0-1-released/ and follow the instructions
[08:50] <Free-man> Guest35270 use punctuation :)
[08:50] <Guest35270> root@ltsp_a31:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:50] <Guest35270> ## EOL upgrade sources.list
[08:50] <Guest35270> # Required
[08:50] <Guest35270> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic main restricted universe multiverse
[08:50] <Guest35270> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[08:50] <FloodBot1> Guest35270: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:50] <Guest35270> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic-security main restricted universe multiverse
[08:50] <Free-man> [,.?;:]
[08:50] <jrib> Guest35270: close update-manager, run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ».  What happens?
[08:50] <Free-man> well, that's redundant
[08:51] <Guest35270> http://pastebin.com/mCWduUND
[08:52] <jrib> Guest35270: now run « gksu update-manager »
[08:53] <Guest35270> "Your system is up-to-date"
[08:53] <jrib> Guest35270: there is no button near the top offering a distribution upgrade?
[08:54] <eypal> Anyone from Canonical Ltd?  I have a kind of business related thing on my mind but have troubles in getting contact..
[08:54] <MonkeyDust> anyone has a solution for the kworker bug? http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-717919%5D-re-acpi-kworker-high-interrupts-134097/
[08:54] <Free-man> not i
[08:54] <Free-man> eypal ^
[08:55] <rww> eypal: http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/contact
[08:56] <eypal> rww, thank you for that. unfortunately I have tried those ways but months has passed and no replies.. :(
[08:56] <Free-man> eypal why not phone them?
[08:57] <Guest35270> no button.
[08:58] <jrib> Guest35270: pastebin /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[08:58] <Guest35270> http://pastebin.com/K2R0rGqf
[08:59] <mix228911> TeslaTony: Kazam not showing at Software Center
[08:59] <jrib> Guest35270: why root prompt?
[08:59] <mix228911> what to do?
[08:59] <ljsoftnet> i just installed crossover games, how do i run it?
[09:00] <mix228911> TeslaTony
[09:00] <Guest35270> because i have a ssh connection in root (more easy to pastebin). theOther screen is a vnc connection to server
[09:00] <arun__> what is the difference between linux and ubuntu
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> arun__: linux is only the kernel. Ubuntu is a distribution with Linux at its core
[09:00] <jrib> Guest35270: ok, you're running update-manager as user though?  What's in ~/.update-manager-core/meta-release?
[09:01] <Free-man> arun__ linux is the kernel; Ubuntu (any distro name) is the "model"; like car-maker, year-model
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: open your windows binaries with the crossover app. You should check the compatibility pages to see what wil run with crossover
[09:01] <Guest35270> http://pastebin.com/47HJTWHe
[09:01] <TeslaTony> mix228911, you might need to tell the software center to update. Open up terminal and type in "sudo apt-get update"
[09:02] <Guest35270> ok it's work
[09:02] <Guest35270>  !
[09:02] <jrib> Guest35270: ok
[09:02] <Guest35270> metarelease update !
[09:03] <mix228911> what is PPA?
[09:03] <rww> !ppa
[09:04] <arun__> wonder what is the equivalent of exe in windows in ubuntu
[09:04] <jrib> arun__: a file marked executable
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> arun__: the exe files are executable binariers, there are plenty in /usr/bin
[09:05] <mix228911> what "Just add our daily builds PPA:" means?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> mix228911: daily build of what?
[09:05] <TeslaTony> mix228911, Ah. Try copying "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:and471/kazam-daily-builds && sudo apt-get update" to your command line
[09:05] <jrib> mix228911: it means a project provides a ppa as described by ubottu above and are suggesting you add it to your sources.list
[09:06] <mix228911> TeslaTony: thanks alot
[09:07] <mix228911> jrib:  ok
[09:07] <mix228911> thanks
[09:07] <TeslaTony> mix228911, hope it worked
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> arun__: the commands like apt-get are executable binaries
[09:08] <mix228911> TeslaTony: it's not
[09:09] <connex> Hi, how can i disable printer dialog and print silently?
[09:09] <TeslaTony> mix228911: What happened when you ran the command?
[09:09] <mix228911> O:-) i'm rest in pice
[09:09] <MonkeyDust> anyone has a solution for the kworker bug? http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-717919%5D-re-acpi-kworker-high-interrupts-134097/
[09:10] <arun__> what is cygwin?
[09:10] <mix228911> Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/universe Translation-en
[09:10] <mix228911> Fetched 11.3 kB in 2s (4,027 B/s)
[09:10] <mix228911> Reading package lists... Done
[09:10] <TeslaTony> mix228911: Looks like it worked, then. Now punch in "sudo apt-get install kazam"
[09:11] <mix228911> oh yea
[09:11] <mix228911> TeslaTony
[09:11] <mix228911> tanks alot
[09:11] <mix228911> i'll save the log' and learn it
[09:13] <mix228911> cool, it's working
[09:13] <mix228911> :)
[09:13] <mix228911> now, i'll drink my black coffee
[09:14] <mix228911> i need a cig' too
[09:15] <TeslaTony> mix228911, Ahhhh. Nothing like mixing stimulants after fiddling with the command line. Anyways, the basic parts of those commands will be very handy for you when adding software, and worth knowing
[09:16] <smokky> how to change regulatory domain on Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[09:17] <ismail_karn> hello!
[09:18] <ismail_karn> I need a portable Wine and any new version of Chromium Browser. Where can i find them?
[09:19] <gry> chromium is in the software center and updates for it are in the update manager, ismail_karn
[09:19] <gry> portable Wine.. don't think there is a thing like that
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> ismail_karn: there is the daily chromium ppa build if you like?
[09:19] <ismail_karn> gry: i know. thank you. but i need portable. (also wine is on software center)
[09:20] <ismail_karn> ActionParsnip: no thank you. i need any (10+ version) portable.
[09:20] <gry> ismail_karn, try to ask #winehq about that ?
[09:20] <ismail_karn> gry: oh yes. i will.
[09:20] <Ibis> ismail_karn: Do you really need to run windows on linux without using virtualbox? (Hey, if your computer fast, and you have at least 1.5GB of ram, VB is better).
[09:21] <gry> ismail_karn, if you want chromium which is not in the ppa .. you'd have to talk to #chromium channels family or sompile it on your own, I'm afraid
[09:21] <gry> s/s/c/
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> ismail_karn: not sure about portable, you can sync your bookmarks and junk to the web so that you can use them in other chromiums
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> ismail_karn: could http://portableapps.com/node/15677 use that, its the windows version but may run
[09:22] <ismail_karn> Ibis: yes i realy need. :(
[09:23] <ismail_karn> gry: thank you. i ill ask it on chromium channel. thank you!
[09:25] <ismail_karn>  ActionParsnip: this link which you gave me is windows version which you told me. How can i run it on Windows? I men i need wine. I will never do this :) Chromium with Wine on Ubuntu ? :)
[09:25] <smokky> how to change regulatory domain on Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[09:25] <ivonne> hola
[09:25] <|ntegra|> what's a regulatory demain?
[09:27] <smokky> |ntegra|:  is a rule to allow a wifi channels , for example the default regulatory domain US doesn't support channel 13 , but i need that
[09:27] <|ntegra|> oh ok
[09:28] <smokky> i want to use an regulatory domain from a country from europe , so i don't know what to do
[09:28] <ChrisPerkins> anyone know how to get the pretty colors in my terminal back? :-(
[09:28] <gnaddel> Hi folks, whats the easiest way to move my existing htpc-ubuntu onto a larger hdd?
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> ChrisPerkins: run:  source ~/.bashrc
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> gnaddel: rsync or dd or partimage
[09:29] <ivonne> tengo un problema con pendrive usb
[09:29] <gry> ismail_karn, you're very welcome; good luck
[09:30] <ChrisPerkins> ActionParsnip: Thanks! will that be a permanent change?
[09:30] <gnaddel> ActionParsnip: Are you familiar with clonezilla? Seems to offer on the fly partition resizing.
[09:30] <MonkeyDust> anyone has a solution for the kworker bug? http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-717919%5D-re-acpi-kworker-high-interrupts-134097/
[09:31] <__MAX> Hi, can i convert my ubuntu virtual machine to physical operating system
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> ChrisPerkins: try a new terminal window, if not I can give a file to make it work
[09:31] <|ntegra|> smokky: this guys explaining it pretty well http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1324288
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> gnaddel: never used it
[09:31] <AlecTaylor> hi
[09:31] <AlecTaylor> Guess what? - We might be able to install Linux! - My advert: "Linux is much faster, has better security, and scales much better than Windows OSs. Not to mention it have many more features and supporting much more software. Maintenace is also much easier, and upgrading/installing new software never requires a restart."
[09:32] <smokky> |ntegra|: but i dont have internet to install IW
[09:32] <ChrisPerkins>  ivonne: Que es la problema con pendrive usb? Que quire acumplir?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> AlecTaylor: then get it installed
[09:32] <gry> __MAX, http://infoqueue.wordpress.com/2009/01/04/wubi-installation-to-regular-installation/
[09:32] <ivonne> el pendrive esta dañado y no lo reconoce con lsusb
[09:33] <LjL> !es | ivonne
[09:33] <|ntegra|> then try typing #iw [tab] and see if iw is already installed?
[09:33] <Lasers> AlecTaylor: You only need to restart when you're installing/upgrading a new kernel. :)
[09:33] <gry> __MAX, err, or not
[09:33] <AlecTaylor> ActionParsnip: Hopefully it worked!
[09:33] <ChrisPerkins> ActionParsnip: No that works great thanks.
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> ChrisPerkins: good enough for me :)
[09:33] <__MAX> gry : !
[09:34] <smokky> |ntegra|:  no itisn't installed but is there any way to install from usb , to download from Windows xp ,and then copying there
[09:34] <ivonne> he entrado en ubuntu-es pero no contesta nadie y me urge
[09:34] <|ntegra|> yes, go to packages.ubuntu.com and grab it
[09:35] <__MAX> gry: i don't  have wubi on my phsical os  , i am using vmware workstation  so i need to convert my vmware os to physical os
[09:35] <smokky> and then how to install
[09:36] <llutz> __MAX: start your vm, mount an empty partition, rsync your vm to it, reconfigure fstab/grub
[09:37] <|ntegra|> #dpkg -i iw.deb
[09:37] <ChrisPerkins> ivonne:  Los dados sobre Pendrive pueden estar borrados?
[09:37] <smokky> where to put that file , in which folder ? desktop or ...
[09:37] <ivonne> me lo reconoce en el kernel con dmesg | tail
[09:37] <sp4z> hi, where are the restricted drives kept in 11.04?
[09:38] <|ntegra|> have you got two computers there? or windows "connected"?
[09:38] <sp4z> drivers*
[09:38] <llutz> !es | ivonne
[09:38] <gry> __MAX, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1519354 seems to be related
[09:38] <|ntegra|> >> anywhere
[09:38] <ivonne> Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
[09:38] <ivonne> [  223.694386] scsi2 : usb-storage 1-3:1.0
[09:38] <ivonne> [  223.694561] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage
[09:38] <ivonne> [  223.694566] USB Mass Storage support registered.
[09:38] <ivonne> [  224.734072] scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access     TDKMedia Trans-It Drive   PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
[09:38] <FloodBot1> ivonne: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:38] <ivonne> [  224.735140] sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[09:38] <__MAX> llutz, u don't know any app to do it
[09:38] <|ntegra|> >> home I guess
[09:38] <smokky> ok i'm going to try
[09:38] <llutz> __MAX: nope
[09:38] <ivonne> si
[09:38] <__MAX> :)
[09:38] <ivonne> perdon
[09:39] <abhijit> hi
[09:39] <|ntegra|> hi
[09:39] <abhijit> i am getting this error E: The package nokuntusp needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report. and synpatic is closing. this is due to nokuntu package. please help.
[09:39] <__MAX> gry : ;)
[09:39] <abhijit> how to remove that error and nokuntu? i need to install another software
[09:40] <|ntegra|> yes that's great
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: try: http://pastebin.com/d95UWgeb
[09:41] <|ntegra|> wow that's a good ol' clean up
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> boom
[09:42] <abhijit> ActionParsnip: :-o ok. let me try. but it wont break down any kernel thingy or dpkg thingy right?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: its just gets the packages straightened out, helps things a fair bit
[09:42] <abhijit> ok
[09:45] <Gun_Bunny> Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX) Under Investigation for 'relationship with 16 year old boy'
[09:45] <abhijit> ActionParsnip: i copy pasted all those command in one .sh file and then run it with sudo but nothing happends. terminsal sits there
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: works here (the file extension is meaningless in linux ;))
[09:47] <abhijit> ok
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: did you put:  #!/bin/bash   as the top line?
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: and mark it as executable?
[09:48] <abhijit> nope. but it worked not. it told me to close synaptic.
[09:48] <abhijit> yes its executable
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: yes you can only have oneapp accessing the packages at one time
[09:48] <abhijit> *it worked now*
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: magic :)
[09:48] <abhijit> :-)
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: the script assumes the packages are free
[09:49] <iophk> I've changed mail addresses and think that the old address is still registered  in Brainstorm.  How can I reset the password for my Brainstorm account and get a new mail address at the same time?
[09:50] <rabbi1> ikonia: okies
[09:50] <abhijit> ActionParsnip: script worked. with errors. it cant access cd rom or can not fetch packages.gz from ubuntu site
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: remove the CD as a software source in software centre
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: if you pastebin the text, we can advise
[09:51] <rabbi1> ikonia: yeah, got the cd, inserted but nothing's happening, saying 2.168704] Kernal panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block ( 8,1)
[09:51] <abhijit> ActionParsnip: i now removed cd and trying again wait
[09:53] <abhijit> ActionParsnip: these are the errors http://pastebin.com/aXWRN5NP
[09:53] <Daghdha> Hi, is there any way to see the history of updates i installe din ubutu using update manager? I think something was installed about a week ago that occassionally breaks my network
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: just remove the CD as a source in software centre, you can also comment out the lines relating to the CD in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:54] <gry> Daghdha, yes, the history section choice at the left
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: read /var/log/dpkg.log
[09:54] <gry> Daghdha, it's in the software center for new installations.. or what ActionParsnip said
[09:55]  * Daghdha rubs eyes
[09:55] <Daghdha> gry I dont' see the section you refer to
[09:56] <Daghdha> i'm on 10.x not 11.x
[09:56] <snape> hello
[09:56] <sgo11> hi, this drives me crazy. my gvim has some problems. how to describe that.. very hard. the words typed in do not affect properly in the window? for example, if you type 'hello' very fast, it will only show 'h llo'. to solve it, simply click the window border, the UI gets refreshed and the word shows correctly. how to fix this annoyed problem? I don't have this problem two weeks ago. currently, latest ubuntu 11.04 natty. thanks.
[09:56] <mix228911> hello, i can't find "steam" program, i've sudo apt-get install steam -allready
[09:56] <abhijit> ActionParsnip: my bad i just removed cd physically but ddnot removed from software sources. now i removed it from software sources too. this time script worked with this error E: The package nokuntusp needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[09:56] <gry> Daghdha, http://i.imgur.com/98nGW.png .. what ActionParsnip said may be more complete, though, what I said may be too simple for your case
[09:56] <mix228911> where is it
[09:56] <mix228911> ?
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> !info nokuntusp
[09:57] <abhijit> ActionParsnip: i took it from sourceforge
[09:57] <Daghdha> pff.. all my xterms are grey again :/
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> gry: I see, I dont use software centre much these days
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: then grab the file and reinstall it
[09:58] <Daghdha> oh i see gry, i was in the update manager
[09:58] <Daghdha> thanks
[09:58] <abhijit> ActionParsnip: that is the package i want to remove. it causes all this mess!!!
[09:58] <mix228911> i've kill moskito
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: then use software centre to remove it
[09:59] <snape> i'm using ubuntu 10.04 LTS with gnome 2.30.2
[09:59] <snape> out of the blue after i login everything is extremely slow and the theme isn't loading. i can't interact with any application and cannot logout.
[09:59] <snape> it's only with my user. with another user it works fine.
[09:59] <snape> it seems it has something to do with metacity. i don't have any clue where to begin and what to search for.
[09:59] <snape> Please help me! I would really appreciate it!
[09:59] <FloodBot1> snape: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:00] <snape> i'm using ubuntu 10.04 LTS with gnome 2.30.2.out of the blue after i login everything is extremely slow and the theme isn't loading. i can't interact with any application and cannot logout.it's only with my user. with another user it works fine.it seems it has something to do with metacity. i don't have any clue where to begin and what to search for.Please help me! I would really appreciate it!
[10:00] <abhijit> ActionParsnip: nothing happen when clicking on remove button in software center
[10:00] <Daghdha> also, i had this once before, from out of the blue all terminal windows have gone grey. They still have the windo borders but instead of black background with text on it it is all one big grey area. Anything known?
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> snape: why repaste exactly the same text twice?
[10:00] <mix228911>  i can't find "steam" program, i've sudo apt-get install steam -allready
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: use apt-get to remove it, what is output?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> mix228911: steam isn't in the repos
[10:01] <snape> sorry i thought it hasn't been sent because i used enter as punctuation
[10:01] <mix228911> in what?
[10:01] <abhijit> ActionParsnip: E: The package nokuntusp needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[10:01] <ikonia> rabbi1: so the CD won't boot at all either
[10:01] <MonkeyDust> snape: it think it's this: esfossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-717919%5D-re-acpi-kworker-high-interrupts-134097/
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: then you can redownload the deb, put it in then take it out, or you can mess with the status file / postinst postrm files
[10:02] <rabbi1> ikonia: yeah, its a laptop, my cd drive is also dead
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> !repos | mix228911
[10:02] <blinkiz> Hello. Am using ubuntu 11.04. The Network icon is missing from the unity panel. Network is also not working. Please advice
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> blinkiz: run:  nm-applet
[10:03] <snape> @monkeydust link is not working
[10:03] <ikonia> rabbi1: so look in the bios, is the disk still visible
[10:03] <pai> my acer aspire one 522 netbook's speakers are on while headphone is plugged in, any solutions, guys?
[10:03] <Daghdha> Can anyone tell me a command that will open something on the desktop? I want to type in one of my grey terminals and see if it still runs stuff, or that they are just all totally phrozen
[10:04] <rabbi1> ikonia: nop, it's not recognising the CDD in the bios only
[10:04] <jrib> Daghdha: gedit
[10:04]  * Daghdha sighs "Thank you, i am an idiot"
[10:04] <ikonia> rabbi1: hardware issues then, time to raise an RMA
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> pai: add: options snd-hda-intel model=asus position_fix=1 enable_msi=1    in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf    and reboot to test
[10:04] <Daghdha> Ok, they not taking input.
[10:04] <SetiAmon> Hello
[10:04] <ffk27> hi
[10:05] <blinkiz> ActionParsnip, nm-applet do not exist in ubuntu 11.04
[10:05] <SetiAmon> So is there a way to get sound to work perfectly on my system,X-FI sound card
[10:05] <pai> thanx ActionParsnip, i'll get a try
[10:05] <mix228911> how do i install "file.msi"  please?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> blinkiz: it does, its what gives the icon in the systray
[10:05] <blinkiz> hmm
[10:05] <SetiAmon> I imagine since old jaunty,with old beta drivers worked flawlessly then there must be a way to get sound to work on up to date ubuntu
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> mix228911: open it with wine
[10:05] <Daghdha> gnome terminal is getting 100% cpu
[10:05] <ffk27> or find a alternative
[10:05] <mix228911> i can't open it
[10:05] <Daghdha> nearly
[10:05] <ffk27> apt-get install wine
[10:05] <mix228911> ActionParsnip: i can't
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> mix228911: mark it as executable and open with wine
[10:06] <mix228911> ActionParsnip:  i can't download anymore ,somting stuck
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> mix228911: then sort your packages then install the file (assuming it is compatible with wine)
[10:06] <blinkiz> ActionParsnip, are you sure that network-manager-gnome should be installed in ubuntu 11.04? It has not changed with this unity interface? It can be (but I do not think so) that I have uninstall it by mistake
[10:06] <Daghdha> If i kill gnome-terminal will it kill all BASH processes too?
[10:07] <abhijit> ActionParsnip: i downloaded new copy of package but same error. it is unable to install.
[10:07] <blinkiz> ActionParsnip, on your own computer, do nm-applet exist as a command to run?
[10:07] <mix228911> ActionParsnip: file not found i think, i can't D/L anymore files
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> blinkiz: yes
[10:07] <mix228911> ActionParsnip:  i've change Download Folder ethier
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> !nm-applet
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> gah
[10:07] <blinkiz> ActionParsnip, ok
[10:08] <mix228911> ActionParsnip:  it's not work
[10:08] <blinkiz> ActionParsnip, I found the error. I installed "arping" that removed network-manager-gnome. Thanks for the help ActionParsnip
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> mix228911: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=nm-applet   see for yourself
[10:09] <abhijit> ActionParsnip: wht can be done?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: you may need to force install the package
[10:09] <abhijit> how?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> mix228911: try running it from terminal instead
[10:09] <abhijit> can we force remove the package?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: sudo dpkg --force-all -i filename.deb
[10:10] <abhijit> ok
[10:10] <mix228911> what is this?
[10:10] <mix228911> ActionParsnip:
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: you can then pull it out and it will remove itself properly
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> mix228911: showing you that the command exists in ubuntu
[10:10] <JeZ-I-Lee> was beta 2 released yet?
[10:11] <Daghdha> gome-terminal is eating nearly all my CPU. Is that normal? Should i kill it? (It is the process that hosts all my Bashes right?)
[10:11] <JeZ-I-Lee> trying to find it
[10:11] <ffk27> kill it
[10:11] <IcantGetNoSleep> ActionParsnip: what command?
[10:11] <abhijit> ActionParsnip: i force install it now how to remove it
[10:11] <abhijit> it installed with same error
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> IcantGetNoSleep: for what?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: is it doing something right now?
[10:12] <IcantGetNoSleep> it's me mix22891
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> IcantGetNoSleep: nm-applet    like I said earlier...
[10:12] <abhijit> ActionParsnip: nvm. thanks for the help so far. i will try for forum. :-)
[10:12] <ffk27>  
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> abhijit: you may need to mess with the status file then, this sort of thing is one of the massive weaknesses in package based distros
[10:13] <abhijit> okies.
[10:13] <abhijit> will do it later. bye for now ActionParsnip
[10:13] <Daghdha> ActionParsnip: I don't know what you mean. It has 4 bashes ran, wich have launched processes that run under python or mono.
[10:13] <Daghdha> So i would expect it to be doing nothing
[10:14] <IcantGetNoSleep> 123
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: if you close the terminal, the child processes will die
[10:15] <sniperjo_> anyone running ubuntu on an ARM ?
[10:15] <gry> sniperjo_, some of us are. what's up?
[10:16] <Daghdha> ActionParsnip: This is bad because all opened terminals will die
[10:16] <Daghdha> and their childprocesses, wich are using a DB.. wich i rather shut down gracefully
[10:16] <sniperjo_> gry: i have a prebuilt version of angstrom on an arm that is working, but id love to get ubuntu up and running on it, I've tried some of the prebuilt images and got nowhere with them
[10:16] <Daghdha> ActionParsnip: If i do a shutdown, will it do it gracefully you think?
[10:17] <gry> didn't say I'm one of those people, but good, you asked the full question. :-)
[10:17] <sniperjo_> gry:  you had my hopes up !
[10:17]  * gry hopes
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: should do, yes
[10:19] <Daghdha> 2nd tiem i had this, must be some gnome-terminal bug
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: I'd do it manually, just to be sure
[10:19] <Daghdha> manually do what? Shut down?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: could try it from xterm, see if it is a bug
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: close down the apps etc
[10:20] <Daghdha> it happened twice in the last year
[10:20] <Daghdha> How can i manually close down an app if i can't get to it's prompt?
[10:21] <IcantGetNoSleep> .
[10:21] <Daghdha> ActionParsnip i see 'end process' in the system monitor, is that what you mean?
[10:22] <snape> i'm using ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Out of the blue, when i login all windows are grey not responding at all and the theme isn't loading. It's only with my main user. Other users work fine. I can't start programs and cannot logout. I have no clue what i should search for. I would really appreciate your help
[10:23] <ffk27> snape: you touched compiz?
[10:23] <snape> nope
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> grey windows are compiz's way of telling you an app is hanging
[10:23] <ffk27> well i guess rm ~ .gnome* will fix it
[10:24] <snape> i will try
[10:24] <ffk27> no wait
[10:24] <gry> back up first
[10:24] <ffk27> i'm not an expert
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> snape: try: gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz; compiz --replace
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> snape: will set compiz to defaults and may help
[10:24] <snape> thx i will try that
[10:27] <Daghdha> and that app can be gnome-terminal, in my case.
[10:29] <Daghdha> OH
[10:29] <Daghdha> problem 'solved'
[10:30] <Daghdha> apparently when you click 'close' on 1 terminal and it says 'not responding force quit?' and you say yes it closes ALL terminals.
[10:31] <Daghdha> Is there a setting that makes every terminal run in it's own process?
[10:32] <DeathWolf> hi all
[10:32] <ffk27> hello
[10:32] <DeathWolf> Is there any proper way of using say a natty repo in lucid but with a "lower" priority
[10:32] <jrib> DeathWolf: no
[10:33] <geirha> Daghdha: You could use uxterm or urxvt instead of gnome-terminal
[10:33] <DeathWolf> ie, I just want one package that's not backported(xserver-xorg 1.10), and try for the best(I don't mind if it breaks everything, I'm doing testing)
[10:33] <jrib> !pinning | DeathWolf
[10:33] <ffk27> daghdha: use screen
[10:33] <jrib> DeathWolf: things will break
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> snape: any better?
[10:33] <jrib> DeathWolf: (likely)
[10:34] <DeathWolf> yeah I know
[10:34] <Daghdha> ffk27: wills creen prevent my terminals from locking up or running under the same process?
[10:34] <DeathWolf> the thing is 1.7.5 is ancient, and only 1.10 has newer features like xcomposite with xinerama
[10:34] <ffk27> yes i think so
[10:34] <jrib> DeathWolf: so why don't you upgrade your ubuntu?
[10:34] <DeathWolf> I don't mind trying that too, but do-release-upgrade complains of some stuff
[10:35] <robs_> hello i have problem with my bulit in dvb-t tuner, can somebody help me? :)
[10:35] <jrib> DeathWolf: what stuff?
[10:35] <ffk27> screen -dMS <sessioname> <command>
[10:35] <DeathWolf> it doesn't find a mirror entry for the upgrade
[10:35] <jrib> DeathWolf: pastebin please
[10:36] <DeathWolf> http://pastebin.com/H3ehmMvq jrib
[10:36] <ffk27> DeathWolf: please cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:36] <SetiAmon> So since x-fi is all cracky and such i decided to enable onboard sound.intel HDA.So how do i make it so ubuntu uses that instead of X-Fi?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> SetiAmon: set it as the default sound device in sound options
[10:37] <Ibis> Anyone in here by any chance using Konversation Chat clinet?
[10:37] <DeathWolf> mmm most of these are corporate confidential though ...(it's internal repositories)
[10:37] <Ibis> Client*
[10:37] <Daghdha> geirha: Okay i added the uxterm to the menu. I will start usingthat instead i guess
[10:38] <geirha> Daghdha: I use gnome-terminal though and I can't remember ever seeing such a message when closing a gnome-terminal window
[10:39] <DeathWolf> sigh, why didn't anyoen backport xorg 1.10 to lucid:(
[10:39] <geirha> Daghdha: I never use the X-button to close it though, I always exit the shell it is running instead, typically by hitting Ctrl+D at the bash prompt.
[10:39] <DeathWolf> I wonder how much work it'd be to get it backported
[10:39] <Daghdha> geirha: all my terms where grey. gnome-terminal process was taking 100% cpu
[10:40] <geirha> Daghdha: Yeah, I've gotten that with other applications, just never gnome-terminal. Not that I can remember anyway.
[10:40] <Daghdha> well as you can imagine that's pretty bad one to have it with.
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> SetiAmon: or easier, remove the card altogether
[10:41] <Daghdha> i think it should have a moe where you can have each term have it's own process
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> DeathWolf: there is the xorg edgers PPA, its very experimental so may cause issues
[10:41] <DeathWolf> Version: 1:7.5+6ubuntu1~xorgedgers3~lucid
[10:41] <DeathWolf> ^ ActionParsnip
[10:42] <SetiAmon> actionparsnip:sound control won't load up now
[10:42] <SetiAmon> hmm
[10:42] <DeathWolf> seems like their lucid is still only 1.7.5 too
[10:42] <SetiAmon> whats the name of the thing i need to reinstall.pavucontrol?
[10:42] <DeathWolf> which is more ancient than the pyramids
[10:42] <SetiAmon> whats the volume controller
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> DeathWolf: yes but its stable
[10:42] <geirha> Daghdha: When you hit the X-button, it goes on a killing spree, trying to kill all child processes, whether they be backgrounded or not. It was probably waiting for one of them to die when it was hanging. By exiting the shell instead, that won't happen.
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> DeathWolf: use at your own risk: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates?field.series_filter=lucid
[10:43] <Daghdha> No geirha
[10:43] <Ibis> About Kernels, Linux3.0 is compatible with Ubuntu 11.04, right
[10:43] <Daghdha> All my child processes (Wich i can access trough HTTP) were running fine.
[10:44] <DeathWolf> ActionParsnip: that's still only 1.7.6...
[10:44] <rabbi1> ikonia: got the starter in usb
[10:44] <ffk27> when does 11.04 gets a 3.0 update?
[10:44] <geirha> Daghdha: The child processes of the shell of the terminal window you were closing
[10:44] <seb0> hi all, are there any known problems with oineiric updated within the last 24 hours?
[10:45] <Daghdha> gnome-terminal was hanging with 100% cpu and not responding.
[10:45] <DeathWolf> if only xinerama X without compositing wasn't so slow:(
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Ibis: there is a 3rd party kernel 3.0 for natty, we cannot support it here in any way
[10:46] <ikonia> rabbi1: seems pointless if your machine has a hardware error
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> seb0: ask in #ubuntu+1 for oneiric questions please
[10:46] <DeathWolf> I can't believe it took until xorg 1.10 before they had compositing not conflicting with xinerama
[10:46] <DeathWolf> it's beyond facepalm
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: kill the process is all I can suggest
[10:47] <pamwe_chete> what's the smallest program that can resize photos and convert formats (jpg to png)?
[10:47] <m6locks> any ideas which modules to add if i
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> DeathWolf: is it ok in kde, kwin can do compositing...
[10:47] <m6locks> i'm gonna compile kernel 3.0?
[10:47] <m6locks> system is eee pc 701
[10:47] <unk> hey can anyone one tell me how should i change the network manager setting it is saying that "device is not managed"
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> !kernel | m6locks
[10:47] <pamwe_chete> i don't want to download gimp just to resize and convert photos, is there a command line application for that?
[10:48] <Daghdha> ActionParsnip: It already all died when the term i closed brought up a kill dialog that was for the gnome-terminal and not for itself. And presto.. all terminals gone in one foul swoop. All processes dead. Problem solved, patient dead.
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> unk: did you define it in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: as good as can be expected
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> pamwe_chete: use imagemagick
[10:48] <AlecTaylor> WOOT - Finally have an Ubuntu Server to work with, Goodbye Windows Server 2003!
[10:48] <gry> woot
[10:49] <Daghdha> ActionParsnip: True. Doesn't mean i'm happy about it though :)
[10:49] <Chipzzz> Hi guys... I need a libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.21.6) for lucid and can't find it in any repo. Can anybody help?
[10:49] <unk> ActionParsnip: it is saying "device not managed" for both wired and wireless
[10:50] <unk> ActionParsnip: then who is managing them??
[10:50] <Ibis> About a software named   metacity   in Ubuntu 11.04,       why does it seem to not handle memory so well.   It bloated well over 400MB in memory usage. I decided to just kill the program and start metacity again via terminal ( metacity ).
[10:51] <pamwe_chete> ActionParsnip that's what i was looking for, thanks
[10:51] <Ibis> Now it uses as little as 2MB of memory.
[10:51] <unk> Ibis: hey Ibis
[10:51] <Ibis> Aloha Unk!
[10:52] <unk> Ibis: i m facing a new problem in ubuntu
[10:53] <ThisIsMyNick> hello
[10:53] <unk> Ibis:  its network manager it is saying that the devices are not managed by it. then how should i check that who is managing my networking devices??
[10:53] <jrib> DeathWolf: so why not hit 'y' or use official repositories for the upgrade?
[10:53] <Daghdha> ActionParsnip: One final question. If i had been running all processes under screen, would after this kill the screen and processes udner screen survived or would they too have been taken down by killing of Gnome-terminal?
[10:54] <Chipzzz> unk: whenever i start firefox, my network manager says it found an unmanaged device... but then it manages it for me :)
[10:54] <geirha> Daghdha: your screen(s) would've survived
[10:54] <unk> Chipzzz: In my case it's not managing. i m using GNOME by the way
[10:54] <Daghdha> Okay, maybe start using those. Thank geirha and ActionParsnip.
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> unk: Daghdha not sure, I don't use screen
[10:55] <Chipzzz> unk: i have a gnome desktop too... does it not connect at all?
[10:55] <ffk27> screen will survive
[10:56] <unk> Chipzzz: NO
[10:57] <Chipzzz> unk: wireless or wired?
[10:57] <unk> ActionParsnip: tell me then in terminal way
[10:57] <unk> Chipzzz: both of them
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> unk: did you edit /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:57] <Chipzzz> unk: do the devices show up in lspci?
[10:57] <unk> Chipzzz: i have also check the services but cannot figure out
[10:58] <unk> Chipzzz: yes
[10:58] <unk> ActionParsnip: no
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> unk: if you open the file, does it only have lo0   defined?
[10:59] <unk> ActionParsnip:NO eth0 ,wlan0 are defined.
[10:59] <unk> ActionParsnip:there is an applet of network manager at the top right side.
[10:59] <unk> ActionParsnip:when i right click on it . It shows the devices are not managed by it
[11:00] <lolcat> Hello
[11:00] <lolcat> Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.4-2ubuntu5.10 with Suhosin-Patch mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8g Server at wiki Port 80 <- Does that mean they are running Ubuntu 5.10?
[11:00] <unk> lolcat: it means PHP 5.2.4 not ubuntu
[11:01] <lolcat> unk: 'ubuntu5.10'
[11:01] <unk> ActionParsnip: any solution of it
[11:01] <lolcat> what is 5.10?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> unk: then that's why. if you set the interfaces there then network manager cannot touch them
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> unk: so when I asked "are they defined in /etc/network/interfaces" your answer should have been YES and we would be moving
[11:02] <unk> ActionParsnip: i didnt edit any file then why it is happen??
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> unk: you must have, or whomever set it up has. The default file ONLY has lo0 defined
[11:03] <unk> ActionParsnip: is there any other service which may be handling it?? if yes how could i find it?
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> unk: no, just that file
[11:04] <unk> lolcat: if its 5.10 then  it must be ubuntu 5.10
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> !5.10
[11:04] <unk> ActionParsnip: what should i do now ???
[11:04] <xoveruk1> hi
[11:04] <lolcat> ActionParsnip: Does that string mean they are using Ubuntu 5.10?
[11:04] <Pici> lolcat: it just means that the version of php on that server is 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.10. If I had to guess, it would be runnning a not-recently updated version of 8.04 (8.04 shipped with php5-5.2.4-2ubuntu5 and the latest in their repositories is 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.17
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> unk: comment out the lins in the file but leave the ones with lo on them, then reboot
[11:04] <xoveruk1> How can I check if syslogd is running for monitoring purposes?
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> xoveruk1: ps -ef | grep logd
[11:05] <lolcat> !8.04
[11:05] <lolcat> That makes sence
[11:05] <unk> ActionParsnip: ok
[11:05] <xoveruk1> i want to check that it actually works
[11:05] <xoveruk1> and then send that information back to the remote nagios system
[11:06] <unk> ActionParsnip: Network manager does not edit that file by itself ????
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> unk: no, it doesn't touch it
[11:06] <Tod> test
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> !test | tod
[11:06] <unk> ActionParsnip: ok
[11:06] <Tod> #test
[11:08] <unk> ActionParsnip: i have install virtualbox one of the interface is of it  should i delete that also???
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> unk: just comment them out, its less destructive
[11:08] <Defusal_> Hi everyone
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> hi Defusal_
[11:08] <Defusal_> is it possible to install ubuntu server on a flash drive?
[11:08] <unk> ActionParsnip: ok
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Defusal_: sure
[11:09] <Defusal_> or do i need to download ubuntu desktop now instead?
[11:09] <Defusal_> ActionParsnip, how?
[11:09] <bubblegum> Hello Guys. This may not relate to Linux (I'm not sure were to ask it) but is there some way to only specify what OIDs (Object Identifiers) you want when doing an SNMP walk? For example: I only want the OID for a temperature gauge on an SNMP enabled device. Does this make sense?
[11:09] <Defusal_> i used unetbootin and it says it cant install without a CD, and theres no option to boot, like ubuntu desktop has
[11:10] <macer1> Defusal_, run Ubuntu Server installator from CD or another USB, and install it to your flash drive. Then boot from it,customize it, add webserver or what do you want :)
[11:11] <Defusal_> macer1, so with other flash drive, it wont say it cant continue without a CD?
[11:11] <macer1> Defusal_, like this was in Debian 5 :D?
[11:12] <Defusal_> macer1, he ok, ill give it a go
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> Defusal_: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[11:12] <Defusal_> this installation is turing out to be one of the most painful experiences to date :/
[11:12] <macer1> Defusal_, good luck, I think Ubuntu Server should install to usb from another usb with no problem ;)
[11:13] <Defusal_> ActionParsnip, sure
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> Defusal_: I believe there is a boot option to make it not look for a CD, let me search
[11:14] <bubblegum> anyone know?
[11:15] <Chipzzz> Defusal_: have you thought about running it in a virtual machine with the image on the USB drive?
[11:16] <cdavis> can notify-send cause a sound at the same time it displays the text?
[11:16] <macer1> ActionParsnip, I think ubuntu server is not checking for cd
[11:16] <Ibis> O_o
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> Defusal_: could try the minimal ISO instead :)
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> macer1: it can but there is a boot option to supress it etc
[11:18] <eyadof> hi i try to redirect my input using < but it don't work ? i write some thing like : ls < test.txt
[11:18] <KNUBBIG> eyadof: >
[11:18] <pcnerd> Hi, is there a way to reenable login and password from the commend adduser?
[11:18] <KNUBBIG> eyadof: oh sorry misread
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Defusal_:
[11:18] <KNUBBIG> eyadof: why would you input a file to ls?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Defusal_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1550317
[11:19] <eyadof> @knubbig it's an example
[11:19] <eyadof> it dosn't work complitly
[11:20] <Defusal_> Chipzzz: how exactly is that going to help me?
[11:21] <Defusal_> ActionParsnip: why should I need to do that manually? I don't even have the ISO on the flash drive, thats the whole reason I'm using unetbootin?
[11:21] <rabbi1> ikonia: some how i got it to load from usb....
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> Defusal_: when the usb starts to boot you sometimes need to mess around in another prompt is the installer starts asking about optical media
[11:22] <Defusal_> Unless you're saying unetbootin doesn't support ubuntu server
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Defusal_: it does
[11:22] <rabbi1> ikonia: the problem now is my existing version on laptop is 9.10, now i got the 11.04... How can I update and still keep the data or how to get the grub ready ?
[11:22] <Defusal_> in which case i'll rather download desktop, and save some more wasted time
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Defusal_: if you need a desktop OS, then install one :)
[11:23] <Defusal_> those instructions are for mounting an iso to install from, are they not?
[11:23] <Defusal_> that is not how unetbootin works
[11:23] <Chipzzz> Defusal_: Your problem appears to be that you can't boot the iso in order to install the system to the usb.  The virtual machine would boot from the iso and you could put the virtual machine on the USB drive.
[11:23] <Defusal_> i need an OS, thats about it
[11:23] <Defusal_> one that works
[11:24] <Defusal_> Chipzzz, no.
[11:24] <Chipzzz> Defusal_: Ah... sorry... i misunderstood the problem
[11:24] <unknown_hunk> ActionParsnip: thnx it solve my problem
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Defusal_: desktop is an easy ride. You can use Xubuntu or Lubuntu for a light desktop
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> unknown_hunk: np :)
[11:25] <Defusal_> ActionParsnip, yeah i think that may be simpler for using a flash drive, as it just works, and live boots
[11:26] <unknown_hunk> ActionParsnip:  my usb 3g datacard is not detectable in the network manager ? ? what to do??
[11:27] <paul_> Sue your ISP, unknown_hunk.  :D
[11:27] <robs_> hello i have problem with my bulit in dvb-t tuner, can somebody help me? :)
[11:27] <Defusal_> ActionParsnip, now i just need to hope im installing from the right flash drive to the right one, since they are named exactly the same from the bioses perspective :|
[11:27] <unknown_hunk> ActionParsnip: but when i use my mobile to connect it to internet . it get detected easly but not usb 3g data card
[11:27] <rabbi1> unknown_hunk: there are lot of post regarding your problem in ubuntu forum, have a look.
[11:27] <Lasers> When you run "tasksel" -- There are a list. How can I find out what install what?
[11:27] <Defusal_> if i install it to the wrong, it'll be too small, and it will override the installation files, so ill have to start everything over
[11:28] <unknown_hunk> rabbi1: give me the link. i already search alot but didnot find any 100% solution for all data card's
[11:29] <unknown_hunk> rabbi1: i have two 3g data card if one works then 2nd doesnt
[11:29] <Defusal_> ActionParsnip, and 10.10 is the most stable version?
[11:29] <rabbi1> unknown_hunk: which make?
[11:29] <chiyaan> hello
[11:30] <unknown_hunk> rabbi1: one is VODAFHONE     & another one is Micromax bsnl
[11:30] <chiyaan> how to install in samba server
[11:31] <robs_> asus n61vg, cant make bulit in dvbt to work, no solution on forum, help!
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Defusal_: 11.04 is also officially stable
[11:31] <rabbi1> unknown_hunk: check the post by username ajjublr. its for huawei, but works in most. i had made it work with huawei and vodafone
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> chiyaan: sudo apt-get install samba
[11:31] <unknown_hunk> rabbi1: where in ubuntu forum ??? can you give me the link?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> robs_: run:  lsusb    you will see an 8 character hex ID you can use to find guides
[11:32] <Defusal_> ActionParsnip, i've had issues with 11.04 in the past so i will stay away from it, and the lastest 10.04's network config application (and who knows what else) is bugged
[11:32] <rabbi1> unknown_hunk: type ubuntu forum in google search field
[11:32] <Defusal_> So I was told yesterday 10.10 is a good choice
[11:33] <unknown_hunk> rabbi1:ok
[11:34] <Chipzzz> Lasers: tasksel --list-tasks
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Defusal_: then try wicd, or wifi-radar instead
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Defusal_: there is more than network manager to manage network interfaces
[11:36] <NOON> ,,
[11:36] <NOON> ,
[11:36] <robs_> ActionParsnip: ive tryed that alredy
[11:36] <KNUBBIG> Why does my irssi tell me I'm on Quakenet, wtf
[11:37] <Lasers> Chipzzz: Thank you. I didn't realize I can check --help/man with that package.
[11:37] <NOON> ..
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> KNUBBIG: check your autoconnect/logins
[11:37] <geirha> KNUBBIG: Maybe you're on both? Is this in the status window (window 1)? If so, Ctrl+X to cycle between the connected servers.
[11:38] <KNUBBIG> ActionParsnip: geirha: thanks, but no it tells me this channel and me are actually on QuakeNet :> brb
[11:38] <KNUBBIG> much better.
[11:39] <Chipzzz> Lasers: almost anything bash recognizes as a command has a --help option... man is not quite as widely available, though
[11:41] <apanda> ahoi. does anyone know how to disable "autoplay" for removable media for pcmanfm?
[11:43] <Chipzzz> I need a libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.21.6) for lucid and can't find it in any of the repos. Can anybody suggest one (they seem to have deprecated it after Maveric so a backport repo would be the best bet)?
[11:44] <rabbi1> o gosh, my 11.04 is taking hell lot of time ..............................
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> !find libgdk-pixbuf2
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> !info libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> !info libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 lucid
[11:48] <Chipzzz> ouch
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Chipzzz: have you added a repo for a later release? or for Debian by any chance?
[11:49] <Chipzzz> no, i thought it imprudent... isn't it?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Chipzzz: you should not mix repos from other releases, or ANY at al from Debian
[11:50] <Chipzzz> that was my thought... i'm trying to install a deb and libgdk-pixbuf is a missing dependency
[11:51] <TimothyA> how do I enable transfering files over SSH? my ISP seems to have disabled that on my VPS by default
[11:51] <TimothyA> and they don't want to tell me how to change it
[11:52] <Ibis> TimothyA: It might be your router or a firewall.
[11:52] <Ibis> Unblock port 22?
[11:52] <TimothyA> I can connect just fine to SSH
[11:52] <TimothyA> ah finally got in
[11:52] <Chipzzz> the deb is supposed to be for lucid but evidently there was some confusion among the developers ;)
[11:52] <TimothyA> apparently they blocked accounts
[11:52] <Ibis> tyou might need to change a setting on your machine to enable ssh.
[11:53] <rabbi1> ikonia: you there?
[11:53] <rabbi1> ikonia: you there?
[11:54] <paul_> Is evince still the default pdf viewer in 11.10?
[11:54] <Chipzzz> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the assistance but i think i'm going to write this project off as a bad idea ;)
[11:54] <bazhang> paul_, #ubuntu+1 for 11.10 please
[11:55] <paul_> bazhang, sorry, I didn't know.
[11:55] <rabbi1> guys how can i recover my 9.10 from 11.04 livecd ?
[11:56] <NOON> list
[11:56] <unknown_hunk> rabbi1: r u there??
[11:57] <rabbi1> unknown_hunk: yeah
[11:57] <rabbi1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1820017
[11:57] <unknown_hunk> rabbi1: my prob is halfly solved
[11:57] <chiyaan> how set in sudo password
[11:57] <unknown_hunk> rabbi1: let me explain
[11:57] <rabbi1> unknown_hunk: check the link above, you will know to solve it
[11:59] <unknown_hunk> rabbi1: now datacard is detected and i m also able to get my provider name with APN & connection is also available but when i click on it it doesnt get connected
[11:59] <unknown_hunk> rabbi1: while the same datacard is perfectly working in windows
[11:59] <chiyaan> how to set in sudo password
[11:59] <jrib> chiyaan: be more specific
[11:59] <unknown_hunk> rabbi1:secondly when i used any mobile to connect it is easily connected
[12:00] <llutz_> chiyaan: setting root password isn't supported here, use sudo as desired
[12:00] <unknown_hunk> rabbi1: i already follow that link
[12:00] <unknown_hunk> rabbi1: did you understand my problem?
[12:02] <unknown_hunk> rabbi1: my datacard is working in window but in ubuntu it is detected all apn and setting are done correctly still i m unable to connect to the internet.
[12:02] <unknown_hunk> rabbi1: but when i use my mobile then network manager easily connects me to the internet
[12:03] <unknown_hunk> rabbi1: any solution???
[12:04] <rabbi1> unknown_hunk: first, can you let me know are you able to connect it from terminal ?
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> chiyaan: your sudo password is the same password you log in with
[12:04] <fellipe> hi friends, where can I consult the packages status in the  dpkg -l <package>  output command?
[12:05] <unknown_hunk> rabbi1: not at all
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> fellipe: use:  apt-cache policy packagename
[12:05] <fellipe> hi friends, where can I consult the packages status in the  dpkg -l <package>  output command? I mean, the legend "ii", "un" ...
[12:05] <fellipe> hi, let me try..
[12:05] <jrib> fellipe: why?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> fellipe: do you mean, what do the letters mean?
[12:05] <llutz_> fellipe: its shown above, 1st 3 lines of dpkg-output
[12:06] <chiyaan> how to check samba install
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> chiyaan: check in what way?
[12:06] <jrib> chiyaan: check it for what?
[12:06] <fellipe> well, yeah, what the letters means!??
[12:06] <llutz_> how to ask smart questions? scnr
[12:06] <rabbi1> unknown_hunk: don't give any APN in Network Manager. just try with different numbers provided in the link. it'l work
[12:06] <fellipe> I saw the lines, but could not understand very well
[12:07] <llutz_> man dpkg
[12:07] <jrib> fellipe: read PACKAGE STATES in « man dpkg »
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> fellipe: ii means it's installed. rc  means it has been installed, uninstalled but the config has not been removed
[12:07] <unknown_hunk> rabbi1: like USB0, USB1, USB2   right?
[12:07] <llutz_> oops wrong window, sry
 hum! and, what about "un" ?
[12:08] <chiyaan> how to check in samba
[12:08] <hypertyper> I'm trying to get the latest version of xdotool but there are only downloads for the 64bit version on the homepage and I'm running 32bit. I can't find a tutorial for how to compile the tar.gz myself. Any suggestions? The version I can download via apt-get is old and not working for me. Thanks
[12:08] <fellipe> ActionParsnip: and, what about "un" ? I have "ii" and "un" letters here
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> chiyaan: repeating the same question doesn't help anyone
[12:09] <jrib> hypertyper: not working in what way?
[12:09] <llutz_> fellipe: man dpkg            read about "package states" and "package  selection states"
[12:09] <unknown_hunk> rabbit1: still not working ?
[12:09] <fellipe> thanks...
[12:09] <llutz_> fellipe: the letters you see are the starting letters of listed state
[12:09] <hypertyper> jrib, I'm trying to use the brightness fake keys XF86MonBrightnessUp etc and they aren't working. They worked briefly but stopped.
[12:10] <jrib> !compile > hypertyper
[12:10] <hypertyper> I've tried a lot of things and the new version is the one last thing I wanted to try
[12:11] <ghostly> hello
[12:11] <hypertyper> I'll see what I can do, thanks
[12:12] <chiyaan>  i m checking in all package .  what  command  ? help anyone
[12:12] <jrib> !in | chiyaan
[12:12] <ogitux_> chiyaan: sudo apt-get update
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> chiyaan: dpkg -l | grep samba
[12:12] <Tracker2> join # ubuntu-es
[12:13] <unknown_hunk> rabbi1: any suggestion now if you can give me ??
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[12:14] <dhiren> can somebody tell me how can I install ubuntu..I already have windows and I want ubuntu to be in D drive
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> haking9: #ubuntu+1 for that sort of thing please
[12:14] <llutz_> ActionParsnip: what? -offtopic   if
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> dhiren: create a CD or USB stick to install with. i suggest you either resize your partitions or delete a partition to make free space to install ubuntu to
[12:14] <ogitux_> dhiren: you can install ubuntu on drive d use wubi on cd ubuntu installer
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: oops, brainspazz
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> haking9: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: thanks for the spot
[12:15] <prasenjeetp> guys, yesterday i got an input that webmin is no go on ubuntu (and even otherwise). i guess the same applies for virtualmin
[12:15] <dhiren> ActionParsnip: can I install ubuntu in only on deleted partition and have dual boot
[12:15] <Amdpc> Hi...When I am on 1st workspace,I cannot go to 4th workspace directly using desktp wall.What to enable fot it ?
[12:17] <llutz_> dhiren: easier to use an own partition for installation and dual-boot. wubi shouldn't be used at all
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> dhiren: i would go that way. You can use wubi and install to your windows partition but it is a bit harder to fix if it goes belly up, it will also be directly affected by the fragmentation of NTFS
[12:18] <dhiren> llutz_: how to do that.. i have three partition..one windows one my backup and other I want to use for windows
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> dhiren: what version of windows is it?
[12:18] <dhiren> llutz_: sorry the other for ubuntu
[12:18] <dhiren> ActionParsnip: Sp
[12:18] <dhiren> ActionParsnip: xp
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> dhiren: if the other partition is disposable, delete it in Windows and then you can install Ubuntu to the free space
[12:19] <chiyaan> what are all the package in ubuntu 11.4 ?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> chiyaan: how do you mean?
[12:19] <dhiren> ActionParsnip: ok..thanks..but this will not format the other partition right
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> dhiren: yes it will destroy the data on the partition
[12:20] <dhiren> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> dhiren: the livecd can resize the NTFS and make free space you can install to
[12:22] <Amdpc> ActionParsnip : Is it also possible to make partitions of the fs which I am currently using (fs where Ubuntu is installed)?
[12:22] <chiyaan> list package in ubuntu 11.4
[12:23] <unknown_hunk> ActionParsnip: can we fschk ntfs filesystem in ubuntu??? as windows does
[12:23] <chiyaan> types of list in ubuntu 11.4 package?
[12:23] <eypal> in case here is somebody from Canonical Ltd please could you give a private message for me. I do have something business stuff in my mind, a kind of checking up one thing one your website. Have been trying to email you but haven't gotten reply. Thank you so much.
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> unknown_hunk: there is a checking in ntfsprogs but I'd do it in a windows OS so you know its good. NTFS is proprietary
[12:24] <llutz_> chiyaan: whats your native language, where do you come from?
[12:25] <unknown_hunk> ActionParsnip: why not ubuntu community can develop that fschk for ntfs   why would we switch every time to window for that????
[12:26] <llutz_> unknown_hunk: if you care about running windows, why do you use ntfs?
[12:26] <ameer__> Ell0 everybody.,
[12:26] <chiyaan> idont know correct english but i m interested in ubuntu help
[12:26] <llutz_> chiyaan: whats your native language, where do you come from?
[12:26] <ameer__> does anyone knows how to install gnome-shell on ubuntu 11.10?
[12:27] <unknown_hunk> llutz_: all system dont have linux in them. but i have only one system that have ubuntu thats why for cross platform
[12:27] <llutz_> !oneiric | ameer__
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> unknown_hunk: NTFS s proprietary. Microsoft have not publicised how NTFS works so until that day it won't be 100% accurate. You are shouting at the wring people. Go moan at microsoft
[12:28] <llutz_> unknown_hunk: ntfs is a proprietary fs, all tools have to be reverse engineered. that's not that easy in most cases and the reason why some things aren't available yet
[12:29] <unknown_hunk> llutz_: ok i got my answer
[12:30] <unknown_hunk> llutz_: ok
[12:30] <llutz_> unknown_hunk: ask MS to free the sources and you'll have all the tools you need very soon ;)
[12:30] <rabbi1> how to recover the grub ?
[12:31] <Amdpc> !grub | rabbi1
[12:32] <yujin> how to clean invalid ppa
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> anyone has a solution for the kworker bug? http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-717919%5D-re-acpi-kworker-high-interrupts-134097/
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> yujin: use ppa-purge
[12:35] <yujin> thank you
[12:36] <rabbi1> can i restore grub of 9.10 from a 11.04 live cd ?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: sure, you can boot to liveCD and reinstate grub2 easily with chroot
[12:40] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: thanks
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: np
[12:42] <Ibis> When a terminal window hangs, because it becomes "running process". IS there something I can type to release it?  Without interrupting the process with ^C      Or CTRL+C?
[12:44] <ikonia> rabbi1: are you still having a problem ?
[12:44] <Lasers> Ibis: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/05/unix-background-job/ -- I think you want #2
[12:44] <hej> hey, I have a usb cable, connected to a switch and need to use it as a serial line, but the usb cable is reconized as a NIC... do I need a special driver or something else?
[12:45] <hej> I would like to be able to use minicom on /dev/ttyUSBx or something like that
[12:45] <rabbi1> ikonia: yeah, trying to load 11.04 from USB, takes hell lot of time... i am just getting DRDY ERR, ABRT from 15 mins :(
[12:46] <Ibis> WOW, that's soooo cool. Thanks Lasers. And now I also learned how to foreground it. xD
[12:46] <ikonia> rabbi1: why are you trying to upgrade when your machine has a hardware error
[12:47] <rabbi1> not trying to upgrade, just got to restore my grub
[12:48] <dr_willis>  as long as you chroot in. You should be able to rabbi1
[12:48] <dr_willis> is 9.10 usin grub1 or 2? i forget./
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> hej: may help http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: 2
[12:51] <yujin> Yppa is a powerful sofware to manage ppa
[12:51] <xulli> what website do you prefer to checkout the latest linux news ?
[12:51] <Ibis> yujin: What makes it so powerful?
[12:52] <yujin> easy to use ,haha
[12:53] <M^jseongtae76> Hello, everyone~
[12:53] <ffk27__> hi
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> xulli: omgubuntu is good if you want superficial stuff like themes and stuff with a smattering of useful apps
[12:53] <martiert> yujin: vim is a powerfull tool to manage ppa!:P
[12:53] <M^jseongtae76> I'm Korean Student, so sometimes you can not understand what I say
[12:53] <hej> ActionParsnip, that's about how to set usb-usb up for IP communication... I need to use it as if it was a serial line..
[12:54] <yujin> o,o  i like emacs,but i'm fresh
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> hej: not sure there dude
[12:54] <hej> ActionParsnip, got a dell powerconnect M6220 with usb-console interface
[12:54] <M^jseongtae76> My ssh server (openssh)'s private key is strange
[12:55] <M^jseongtae76> Sometimes, my private key is working
[12:55] <wereHamster> why would ssh pubkey authentication not work from a 8.04.4 client to a 10.04 server?
[12:55] <wereHamster> the key is silently ignored by the server
[12:55] <jimbumba> are there any tools which can help a bit in reverse engineering built in in ubuntu? i count "strings" tool
[12:55] <M^jseongtae76> but, after about 5 minutes my private key is not working
[12:56] <wereHamster> jimbumba: since ubuntu is open source, you can look at the source
[12:56] <jimbumba> particularly disasembling into c
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> wereHamster: tried reimporting the key?
[12:56] <jimbumba> naa... i want work on a c code executable
[12:56] <wereHamster> ActionParsnip: import where? Both are servers, there are no agents running
[12:56] <islam> guys any body have any idea about ytalk and how it works ?
[12:57] <martiert> jimbumba: guess you'll have to look hard to find a c disasembler. Your best shot it to get a assembly
[12:57] <M^jseongtae76> ActionParsnip, yes to ~.ssh
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> islam: http://linux.die.net/man/1/ytalk
[12:57] <islam> thanx, Actionparsnip
[12:58] <dj_beirut> hi.. i am getting this error when i try to run deluged: http://pastebin.com/9UdG6RJR any ideas what the problem can be?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> dj_beirut: 1) Why run deluge with sudo   2) You don't run GUI apps with sudo, use gksudo
[12:58] <macer1> dj_beirut: you version of deluge is not compatible with this
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> dj_beirut: what is the output of:  apt-cache policy deluge
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> dj_beirut: pastebin the output please
[12:59] <dj_beirut> deluge:
[12:59] <dj_beirut>   Installed: (none)
[12:59] <dj_beirut>   Candidate: 1.3.3-0~natty~ppa2
[12:59] <dj_beirut>   Version table:
[12:59] <dj_beirut>      1.3.3-0~natty~ppa2 0
[12:59] <FloodBot1> dj_beirut: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:59] <dj_beirut>         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/deluge-team/ppa/ubuntu/ natty/main i386 Packages
[13:00] <dj_beirut> sorry! :(
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> dj_beirut: use a pastebin.....
[13:00] <Ibis> !pastebin | dj_beirut
[13:00] <zHammeRz> why even have topics no one even reads it
[13:00] <rabbi1> ikonia: now i got ubuntu logo on screen :) a bit happy at last
[13:00] <dj_beirut> it was really the wrong window :/
[13:00] <KM0201> zHammeRz: so we can complain about people not reading it.
[13:00] <M^jseongtae76> please help me!
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> dj_beirut: seems you are using tehe deluge team ppa, which we cannot support here
[13:01] <Ibis> I've always wanted to do that. xD
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> dj_beirut: it's cool man, just pastebin next time :D
[13:01] <teweWork> is there a shortcut key in the terminal to repeat last typed word?
[13:01] <DeltaEpsilon> !encrypt
[13:01] <llutz_> teweWork:  alt .
[13:01] <islam> up arrow
[13:01] <teweWork> last typed word in the same line
[13:02] <llutz_> oh
[13:02] <islam> tewewrok, up arrow
[13:02] <M^jseongtae76> My ssh private key is bad
[13:02] <teweWork> for example i wanna copy a file but change it's name slightly
[13:02] <M^jseongtae76> private key is first time, that is work
[13:02] <zHammeRz> no, up arrow is the last command..correct answer given by llutz
[13:02] <KM0201> M^jseongtae76: so delete it.
[13:02] <llutz_> zHammeRz: nope
[13:02] <KM0201> and make a new one
[13:02] <dj_beirut> ActionParsnip i don't need to use that.. i just followed a guide. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1433783
[13:02] <Ibis> M^jseongtae76: How do you know? What error message pops up that tells you so?
[13:02] <M^jseongtae76> KMO201, I was
[13:03] <zHammeRz> whatever
[13:03] <jojo__> hi is there anyone who can help me??
[13:03] <llutz_> zHammeRz: alt .   repeats last word from previous command, not last typed word in same line
[13:03] <M^jseongtae76> Ibis, wait please
[13:03] <jojo__> im new to ubuntu
[13:03] <islam> the paste shortcut is ctrl+shift+v
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> jojo__: ask and see
[13:03] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[13:03] <jojo__> can any one here help
[13:03] <KM0201> !ask | jojo_
[13:03] <BluesKaj> hi ActionParsnip
[13:03] <M^jseongtae76> Ibis, my error message: Authentication method 'publickey' with key 'id_rsa' failed
[13:03] <rabbi1> just use shift key for copy and paste from terminal with ctrl "tast"
[13:04] <greenmang0> teweWork, i don't think there's any such command.. just use tab completion and modify ...
[13:04] <ikonia> rabbi1: I'll ask again, why are you doing this when your hardware has an problem
[13:04] <KM0201> M^jseongtae76: is that all it says?
[13:04] <teweWork> greenmang0: ok, thx
[13:04] <jojo_> KM0201, ubottu dont tell me tell jojo__ (two underscores)
[13:04] <Ibis> M^jseongtae76: Name of software used thtat made this popup?
[13:04] <KM0201> ah...
[13:04] <ikonia> rabbi1: send the hardware back for RMA, then deal with ubuntu
[13:04] <KM0201> :)
[13:04] <jojo__> Internet Connection Sharing – Ubuntu 10.04 NAT Gateway Setup (Abridged Version)
[13:04] <M^jseongtae76> KMO201, yes
[13:04] <jojo_> B)
[13:04] <rabbi1> ikonia: may be misuderstanding, my hardware has no problem. how did you conclude this?
[13:04] <jojo__> i want to perform this is one
[13:05] <jojo__> Internet Connection Sharing – Ubuntu 10.04 NAT Gateway Setup (Abridged Version)
[13:05] <lokodomain> Hey Peeps, anyone know how to use ubuntu desktop as root without using the command line, trying to extract some fonts that I downloaded and keep getting permission denied
[13:05] <M^jseongtae76> Ibis, ConnectBOT(android application)
[13:05] <ikonia> rabbi1: because you said you couldnj't see the CDROM or disk from the bios
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> !ics | jojo__
[13:05] <jojo__> i acuatly done that
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> M^jseongtae76: connectbot ROCKS!
[13:05] <mbeierl> suddenly my natty classic desktop with compiz/cube started rotating really slowly, but only when I drag a window off the edge to initiate the cube rotate
[13:05] <M^jseongtae76> Ibis, putty says error. too
[13:05] <rabbi1> ikonia: o, ok, that could be cdrom problem... not worried about that right now
[13:06] <mbeierl> lokodomain: um... alt-f2 then "gksu file-roller"?
[13:06] <Xeneth> lokodomain: are you trying to extract it to a location that allows root only?
[13:06] <jojo__> http://www.somewhereville.com/?p=1196 --> this what i done
[13:06] <rabbi1> ikonia: right now, i got some important job to finish, and unable to boot. i just need the data of hard disk.
[13:06] <jojo__> can you check on this one guys
[13:06] <lokodomain> @ Xeneth yea thats right
[13:06] <rabbi1> ikonia: got to finish this at the earliest, have very less time..
[13:06] <jojo__> i try everything to share internet but it wont work
[13:06] <Fantec_> is there any doc that list needed kernel options to compile ?
[13:07] <lokodomain> @mbeierl using file roller already, just denied by permissions
[13:07] <M^jseongtae76> Ibis, How to I can fix that
[13:07] <jojo__> any one who can help me
[13:07] <Fantec_> (11.04 just stop at init with own kernel, a init=/bin/bash is OK)
[13:07] <Ibis> M^jseongtae76: I'm looking that up right now.
[13:07] <mbeierl> lokodomain: you're not running file-roller under sudo, though.  that's why I was wondering if gksu file-roller was what you wanted.
[13:07] <jojo__> is there any one here
[13:08] <islam> is there a command to kill whatever process running on the terminal ?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> jojo__: you can clearly see users chatting, so YES people are here
[13:08] <M^jseongtae76> Ibis, thanks I will wait
[13:08] <h00k> islam: ctrl+c (^c)
 ive done this one. = > http://www.somewhereville.com/?p=1196
[13:08] <rabbi1> islam: ctrl c, ctrl z
[13:08] <Xeneth> islam: Ctrl + C
[13:08] <lokodomain> @mbeierl No I wasn't running file roller under sudo just as a normal user
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> jojo__: I saw the link
[13:08] <islam> it doesnt work with ytalk and some other things
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> jojo__: Ive never set it up so cannot personally relpy intelligently
[13:09] <mbeierl> lokodomain: that's what 'gksu' does - it launches a graphical app as sudo
[13:09] <greenmang0> rabbi1, Ctrl + z  suspends it does not kill
 but still my my windows client cannot pullup website
[13:09] <lokodomain> I'm sure most people would love to know how to use Ubuntu without all the permissions and the command line stuff, then my girl would be able to use it
[13:09] <jojo__> is there any one here who knows this one.? <ActionParsnip>
[13:10] <ikonia> l/last rabbi1
[13:10] <lokodomain> @mbeierl  gksu from the command line right..?
[13:10] <IdleOne> gksudo
[13:10] <rabbi1> ikonia: yeah
[13:10] <rabbi1> ??
[13:10] <jojo__> any hre who can help me
[13:10] <mbeierl> lokodomain: or alt-f2.  IdleOne: that's right, thanks!
[13:10] <IdleOne> jojo__: with?
[13:11] <ikonia> jojo__: what's the issue
[13:11] <rabbi1> jojo__: which one?
[13:11] <greenmang0> islam, you can use "pkill ytalk"
[13:12] <Ibis> M^jseongtae76: Is this what you're doing here? http://michaelchelen.net/articles/android-connectbot-ssh-key-auth-howto.html
[13:12] <kkulhavy> Hello
[13:12] <llutz_> teweWork:  am i too late? "ctrl-w ctrl-y ctrl-y" does ;)
[13:12] <M^jseongtae76> Anyone, know how to fix access error for other hard disk
[13:12] <kkulhavy> How do I make Libreoffice speak german?
[13:12] <M^jseongtae76> Ibis, wait please
[13:12] <jojo__> hello can any one here who can help me
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> anyone has a solution for the kworker bug? http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-717919%5D-re-acpi-kworker-high-interrupts-134097/
[13:12] <islam> is there a task manager for linux like the one in windows ? and can I do it from the terminal ?
[13:12] <kkulhavy> Everything in the system speaks German, just my Libreoffice after installation speaks English
[13:12] <rabbi1> islam: open another terminal and use pkill, also you can pass arguments for it. just have a look. very handy
[13:12] <greenmang0> llutz, nice one :)
[13:12] <kkulhavy> I tried some howto how to install language packs but it said all of the packages are already installed.
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> islam: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=331065
[13:13] <jojo__> hello
[13:13] <teweWork> llutz_: thx, nice trick :)
[13:13] <jojo__> anyone here who can help
[13:13] <lokodomain> @mbeierl thanks!
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> islam: there is the same in terminal with:  top
[13:13] <jpds> kkulhavy: Install libreoffice-l10n-de ?
[13:13] <DonaldStrachan> hello
[13:13] <IdleOne> jojo__: we are all here to help. what do you need help with?
[13:14] <M^jseongtae76> Ibis, Thanks I solved!
[13:14] <kkulhavy> jpds, thanks, I will try to apt-get install it!
[13:14] <Ibis> M^jseongtae76, when messing with ssh, I hope you typed in: yourUsername@ip-or-host.com
[13:14] <islam> and how can I close one of them on terminal ?
[13:14] <Ibis> You're welcome.
[13:14] <mbeierl> lokodomain: you're welcome.  there should be an enhancement to file-roller which allows you to become su, like an 'unlock' type button, but for now, that appears to be the closest there is
[13:14] <jojo__> http://www.somewhereville.com/?p=1196 --> I want to share internet on my network using this one and i follow all the step and my window cannot pullup any website <IdleOne>
[13:15] <IdleOne> !ics | jojo__
[13:15] <DonaldStrachan> what can u ppl tell me?
[13:15] <Ibis> M^jseongtae76: Otherwise, without the @username,  it'll pick default user. Like root.  And if the root's password is wrong, an error of failed authencation is morelikely to result.
[13:15] <M^jseongtae76> Ibis, ok thanks have a good day
[13:15] <Ibis> You too.
[13:15] <IdleOne> DonaldStrachan: about?
[13:15] <DonaldStrachan> IdleOne, whatever interests you
[13:16] <Ibis> s/@username/username@
[13:16] <DonaldStrachan> surprise me
[13:16] <bazhang> !ot | DonaldStrachan
[13:16] <IdleOne> DonaldStrachan: this channel is for Ubuntu support, please join #ubuntu-offtopic if you feel like chatting
[13:16] <DonaldStrachan> ok IdleOne, what is Ubuntu about? thatz not off topic
[13:16] <kkulhavy> jpds, thanks! bingo! direct hit! It Just Works (TM)
[13:17] <jpds> kkulhavy: Grosartig.
[13:17] <IdleOne> DonaldStrachan: www.ubuntu.com has info.
[13:17] <Ibis> DonaldStrachan: Lol, first time using Ubuntu? o_O
[13:17] <DonaldStrachan> clicking links can be dangerous IdleOne, that's how computers get virus'
[13:17] <DonaldStrachan> yes Ibis
[13:17] <Ibis> !troll
[13:17] <DonaldStrachan> ah, an OS
[13:17] <IdleOne> DonaldStrachan: I'm going to tollerate very little trolling.
[13:17] <DonaldStrachan> interesting
[13:18] <llutz_> DonaldStrachan:  .. take your fish and troll away <°))))><
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> nice fish :)
[13:18] <Ibis> ROFL @ llutz_
[13:18] <greenmang0> :D
[13:18] <DonaldStrachan> that's ok IdleOne, tolerate whatever you wish...i am just here to understand...already learnt something new, that there is an OS called Ubuntu
[13:18] <bazhang> DonaldStrachan, wrong place please stop
[13:19] <DonaldStrachan> u ppl are soooo sensitive
[13:19] <hypertyper> when I hove over a window without clicking it, I don't have the tool bar X O _ which is really annoying (Ubuntu 11.04). Is that normal?
[13:19] <kkulhavy> I am afraid DonaldStrachan feels disrespected
[13:19] <progzy> Hello, a idea about how "_" could be taken into account in "/etc/fstab/" file please? It is bypassed in my case.
[13:19] <KMNsadface> hello, i'm having a HUGE problem and i sort of need it fixed ASAP im even willing to pay with PayPal LOL, im really desperate to fix my computer because i need my work files.
[13:20] <IdleOne> !ask | KMNsadface
[13:20] <Ristovski> hello, I have a problem , I installed ubuntu on an sd card I booted all was well until I got an error " this computer has 0 bytes remaining" althouhh there were 2 Gb left on the card
[13:20] <viv> How could I  change default text editor from evince to gedit on Firefox in Ubuntu10.10
[13:20] <greenmang0> progzy, what to you mean by "_" taken into account?
[13:21] <greenmang0> got dc
[13:21] <progzy> greenmang0: I mean that "www_site1" is interpreted as "www" only
[13:22] <DonaldStrachan> ok, I have a valid question....why don't you guys rather use debian?
[13:22] <greenmang0> progzy, oh.. let me try
[13:22] <LjL> jojo__: you can speak again now. the bot mistakenly muted you.
[13:22] <Pici> DonaldStrachan: This channel is for support only, try #ubuntu-offtopic for chat.
[13:22] <bazhang> DonaldStrachan, thats offtopic here. #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[13:22] <DonaldStrachan> oh
[13:23] <greenmang0> progzy, is it a mount point?
[13:23] <Ristovski> anyone can help ? I have a problem , I installed ubuntu on an sd card I booted all was well until I got an error " this computer has 0 bytes remaining" althouhh there were 2 Gb left on the card
[13:23] <greenmang0> progzy, what's the entry in /etc/fstab?
[13:23] <windmill> anyone know how to configure a Sentelic FingerSensingPad to do scrolling?
[13:23] <KMNsadface> hello, im having a problem with my MBR, also my /dev/sda2 *win7 is labeled as Unknown?; possibly damaged how can i fix this; http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/91753173.png/
[13:24] <Ristovski> windmill : ask your vendor
[13:24] <zulax> i am trying to compile a c++ code with windows.h in it, can i just comment it out?
[13:24] <progzy> greenmang0: http://pastebin.com/zFkeP8Px
[13:24] <Ristovski> zulax : yes
[13:24] <windmill> Ristovski, Sentelic?
[13:25] <zulax> Ristovski, how do i download header files in ubuntu? I need gl/GL.h
[13:25] <Ibis> viv: Follow these instructions: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/04/change-firefoxs-view-source-default.html
[13:25] <progzy> greenmang0: paste updated
[13:25] <Ristovski> zulax : iDunno
[13:25] <Ibis> viv: Do NOT change anything unless you can somehow remember the defaults.
[13:25] <progzy> greenmang0: "ftp.example.com/www_site1" is interpreted as "ftp.example.com/www"
[13:26] <Ibis> viv, in firefox, visit this URL: about:config
[13:26] <viv> Ibis : OK
[13:27] <Ibis> viv: You may need to restart firefox after you've successfully made all the changes.        (if you can't remember, you're better of copy-pasting default settings into gedit or whatever text editor you like to use).
[13:27] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: What have you attempted so far?  I found this overview to be quite helpful when things have gone wrong for me: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[13:28] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: mind if i ask you to assist me? i really cant afford to screw anything up.
[13:29] <Ibis> Data recovery? OOO sounds scary. >.<
[13:29] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: I do not mind, but I am no expert, and I would prefer to keep it in this channel so others can benefit/monitor to make sure I don't give bad advice
[13:30] <zulax> what packages do i need to download for gl/GL.h ?
[13:30] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: having said that, I have recovered from serious mishaps before.  it can be done
[13:30] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: alright, where should i begin?
[13:30] <greenmang0> progzy, are you able to mount without "www_site1" ?
[13:30] <viv> Ibis: I have opened about:config in firefox , Now what I will do?
[13:31] <Ibis> viv: Follow the steps in the URL I gave you, you now do step 2.
[13:31] <Ibis> mbeierl: Deleted or lost files can sometimes be recovered from failed or formatted drives and partitions.    <--- Keyword is /sometimes/.
[13:32] <dr_willis> !find GL.h
[13:32] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: first thing I need to ask - and please don't take offence - is do you know what you did to get your disk to this state?
[13:32] <smaller_> hi people , how to change regulatory domain on UBUNTU 11.04 ?
[13:33] <progzy> greenmang0: ok I 've found the problem : me . No need to escape anything ... My bad ... I expected directories that are not supposed to be there. Thank you for your help
[13:33] <multi_io_> is there some existing way (udev setting etc.) to make ubuntu auto-mount USB storage devices which don't have partitions, but rather have the whole device formatted using vfat?
[13:33] <greenmang0> progzy, :)
[13:33] <alexapr> how can i restore ubuntu to default settings fully
[13:33] <dr_willis> alexapr:   You mean user settings.. or system settings.
[13:33] <alexapr> system settings
[13:34] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: i had win7 and Ubuntu formated and WinXP i deleted WINXP and it screwed up my mbr, i tried to recover it by following a website and managed to f*** things up even worse, thats when i came here - i had to install Backtrack5 R1 because i couldn't boot from Ubuntu or Win7.
[13:34] <dr_willis> purge/reinstall packages is the only way i know of alexapr
[13:34] <smaller_> hi people , how to change regulatory domain on UBUNTU 11.04 ?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> alexapr: you can reset your user settings by removing all the hidden folders ni $HOME
[13:34] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: are you running from a live cd right now, or off an install from the hard disk that needs recovery?
[13:35] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: also, i did some partitioning aswell, this was about 2-3weeks ago unfortunately this is my first attempt to fix it because i've been so busy.
[13:35] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: currently running from the hard disk that needs recovery.
[13:35] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: i do have a second computer beside me where i can come in IRC which would prob be ideal
[13:35] <aljen> hi
[13:36] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: is /dev/sda2 the only partition that has data which you cannot access?  Are the other operating systems on the disk usable?
[13:36] <smaller_> hi people , how to change regulatory domain on UBUNTU 11.04 ?
[13:36] <llutz_> smaller_: modinfo <yourwifi-driver>    check if it has parm like "all_channels"
[13:36] <dr_willis> smaller_:  i dont think anyone even knows what a regulatory domain is....
[13:36] <dr_willis> :)
[13:36] <llutz_> !patience | smaller
[13:36] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: i believe its just sda2
[13:37] <smaller_> i need to connect to channel 13 , but ubuntu shows just from 1 to 11
[13:37] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: ok, is the main objective here to get access to the files, or to recreate the OS that was on sda2?
[13:37] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: actually if i remember correctly the error accured after i tried installing backtrack5 R1, it overwrited the ubuntu in grub.
[13:37] <nullcore> i just wanted to make a general comment: tasksel rocks.
[13:37] <nullcore> thank you, that is all.
[13:38] <root____2> hello everyone
[13:38] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: as I am not familiar with backtrack, is that a linux distro, and is it there just for recovery, or do you want to keep it?
[13:38] <yixuan> Hello everyone, I just upgrade 11.10 from 11.04. but when downloading, it failed. so I download many times. Right now, I think files should be downloaded completely, But when I reboot system, it will hang it "checking battery status"
[13:38] <yixuan> any idea to fix it?
[13:39] <arand> nullcore: just a general warning: don't attempt to uninstall anything using it ;)
[13:39] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: i want to keep it, and yes its a linux distro.
[13:39] <BluesKaj> !backtrack
[13:39] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: http://www.backtrack-linux.org/
[13:39] <rabbi1> how to stop "preparing to install ubuntu" window on a live CD ?
[13:40] <usr13> yixuan: You may need to re-install.  When upgrade does not completely finish, it is hard to recover.
[13:40] <BluesKaj> KMNsadface, read the bot post above
[13:40] <dr_willis> rabbi1:  if its resizeing the hard disks.. you dont want to stop it. You could  break any other os's or partitons on the disk.
[13:40] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: ok, so that's a start: you have a good installation on that disk, and you can boot it.  The partitions other than sda2 are mountable and readable by backtrack.  So, first, we will try to recover the sda2 partition.
[13:40] <Ibis> viv: Lemme know if that worked out for you.
[13:41] <viv> Ibis : Thank You ,I have done this
[13:41] <rabbi1> dr_willis: no no, its before partitioning, still in initial stage, the "quit" button has no effect
[13:41] <yixuan> usr13: how can I re-install it? format my disk? or upgrade again?
[13:41] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: are you in backtrack right now?  Is it possible for you to switch to an ubuntu live cd (or usb) for the remainder of this session?
[13:41] <dr_willis> rabbi1:  sounds like its totally crashed. can you get to the console?  You could just reboot the machine i guess.
[13:41] <rabbi1> dr_willis: i don't need to install it right now, just got to restore my previous grud, i just need to go to Live CD desktop
[13:41] <usr13> yixuan: If you have a separate partition for /home you can leave it un-formatted and re-use it after re-install.  Otherwise, back-up your personal files and just reinstall and restore them.
[13:41] <yixuan> usr13: another information is, if I type startx can work
[13:41] <dr_willis> rabbi1:  you clicked install instead of 'try' at the start?
[13:41] <rabbi1> dr_willis: reboot is done, but takes lot of time to get back to this mode again
[13:42] <rabbi1> dr_willis: yeah, my bad
[13:42] <usr13> yixuan: It might.  Try and see.
[13:42] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: yes, i can change computers; but my LiveCD is actually on my ubuntu partition that i cant log into lol
[13:42] <dr_willis> rabbi1:  not sure of the best way to get to it. if you can get to the console, you could try 'sudo service gdm restart'
[13:42] <rabbi1> dr_willis: o great, will try with F6
[13:42] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: if we fix my ubuntu ill be able to grab my USB drive folder from the Desktop and toss it on my USB stick, unless you want me to just redownload it.
[13:42] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: I'd like you to try the first step of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#GNU_Parted and tell me what happens
[13:43] <rabbi1> dr_willis: no effect :(
[13:43] <BluesKaj> oops sorry KMNsadface I thought you were one of those backtrackers looking for help it
[13:44] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: just note that if there's anything different about backtrack (like how to use apt-get to retrieve packages), I don't know how to help there, but other than that, tools are tools regardless of the linux flavour, I believe
[13:44] <rabbi1> dr_willis: what could be the process name of that ?
[13:44] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: will i be doing these commands while on BT?
[13:44] <usr13> yixuan: Not certain what you have there (what condition your system is really in), but you will more-than-likely need an install CD.
[13:45] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: this is where the "keeping it in the channel" is handy.  can anyone contradict me that parted is parted regardless of distro?
[13:45] <usr13> yixuan: ... CD or USB  ...
[13:45] <alex___> hello
[13:45] <h00k> mbeierl: I'm pretty sure parted is parted as well
[13:45] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: Let's just go ahead and try the parted steps under bt.
[13:45] <mbeierl> h00k: thanks :)
[13:46] <IdleOne> mbeierl: if you are going to help them with bt please join #backtrack-linux to do it.
[13:46] <Int-Vent-ive> BestRegards
[13:46] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: okay for the 2nd command ill want to put /sda2 correct?
[13:46] <erozio> does anyone know how to install yagf? i got 10.04
[13:47] <Int-Vent-ive> BestRegards
[13:47] <Int-Vent-ive> there's some alternative to Cairo-Dock? ;D
[13:47] <h00k> KMNsadface: alternatively, use an Ubuntu Live CD/USB
[13:47] <Pici> erozio: Waht is yagf?
[13:47] <mbeierl> IdleOne: i'm not helping with bt, I'm helping to recover a dead partition.  I'm using ubuntu guides to do it.  I'm just moving things along by not forcing a re-download and boot of the Ubuntu live cd at this stage.
[13:48] <erozio> Pici: software for converting text from jpg or smthing to txt =)
[13:48] <mix22891> hello
[13:48] <chris____> hello
[13:48] <mix22891> how do i
[13:48] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: no, as this is an operation on the entire partition table, we want to see what parted thinks of it as a whole, so "sudo parted /dev/sda"
[13:48] <greenmang0> Int-Vent-ive, docky
[13:48] <Pici> erozio: What do you mean? Like an image to ascii art?
[13:48] <bastidrazor> Int-Vent-ive: avant window navigator
[13:48] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: ~nicoulaj@wsg-proxy2.bull.fr] has quit [Remote host closed  the connection]
[13:49] <KMNsadface> 08:48 < mix22891> hello
[13:49] <yixuan> usr13: I upgrade it through network. for 11.04, I installed it from dvd
[13:49] <KMNsadface> ah wtf, sec
[13:49] <erozio> Pici: no. imagine that u have a scan of a document, but it's jpg.
[13:49] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: http://pastebin.com/SbwWtDBZ
[13:49] <AlecTaylor> Where is the binary for the "Terminal" app? - I can't get the mouse to work, so I'm browsing /bin for it
[13:49] <llutz_> erozio: OCR software you mean, optical char recognition
[13:49] <usr13> yixuan: You could re-install 11.04
[13:49] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: okay, my mistake second.
[13:49] <mbeierl> AlecTaylor: gnome-terminal ?
[13:49] <erozio> llutz_: yes...
[13:49] <Int-Vent-ive> yup indeed, I will try Thks alot!
[13:50] <jsebean> Hi
[13:50] <rabbi1> how to get into my laptop installed terminal, from live cd terminal
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: use a chroot
[13:50] <yixuan> usr13: can I fix my current system? since gnome can work, but default when reboot, it will hang, not sure why. do you have the process?
[13:50] <Pici> erozio: Ah, I don't see any packages for it, I think you'd need to build from source.  I suggest using checkinstall to facilitate that.
[13:50] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: ok, try just as /dev/sda.  that makes sense that it's an unrecognized label as the partition itself does not have a partition table inside it :)
[13:50] <jsebean> I have tried to install ubuntu multiple times, when it reboots to the HDD it boots up Ubiquity as if it's not installed, any ideas? I'm using USB
[13:50] <AlecTaylor> mbeierl: Where is that binary?
[13:50] <mix22891> rude boy
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> jsebean: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[13:51] <Stanley00> AlecTaylor: it's /usr/bin/gnome-terminal
[13:51] <mbeierl> AlecTaylor: sorry: /usr/bin/gnome-terminal
[13:51] <jsebean> No though I was just thinking of that
[13:51] <jsebean> though i tried both the 64bit and 32bit iso
[13:51] <onlineamateur> jsebean: Are you removeing the usb drive?
[13:51] <AlecTaylor> Thanks mbeierl, Stanley00
[13:51] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: http://pastebin.com/KTD34KeJ
[13:51] <usr13> rabbi1: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> jsebean: still needs checking. Torrents help get good images
[13:51] <erozio> Pici: i have read about some repos of yagf, but i can't use them
[13:51] <jsebean> and yes I even removed the USB but I am sure it's booting to HDD because I even changed the boot order to HDD
[13:51] <usr13> yixuan: Does gnome work?
[13:52] <jsebean> Where can i find the origional MD5?
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> !hashes
[13:52] <llutz_> erozio: seems getdeb has deb-files for it
[13:52] <Pici> erozio: Why not?
[13:52] <jsebean> thank you
[13:52] <mbeierl> KMNsadface:first, do a
[13:52] <erozio> Pici: and i tried installing from sources with "./configure && make &&makeinstall" but it didn't help
[13:52] <yixuan> usr13: yes, it seems work actually. I am using xchat on it. I type startx in tty1
[13:52] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: "print" command in parted
[13:52] <jsebean> i'll be back after I check it
[13:52] <mix22891> how do i run .msi file ?
[13:53] <Pici> erozio: Well, did you get errors?
[13:53] <AlecTaylor> Hyper-V: Are there tools available that let me use the mouse in the VM?
[13:53] <Stanley00> mix22891: you cant
[13:53] <usr13> yixuan:  Oh, well, you can recover.
[13:53] <erozio> llutz_: getdeb... that's nice. how to add this repo?
[13:53] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: that is where you should find the START and END numbers for the rescue command
[13:53] <h00k> !wine | mix22891
[13:53] <mix22891> it's steam program, i need it
[13:53] <llutz_> erozio: check getdeb.net, they should have documentation on that
[13:53] <erozio> Pici: no, nothing
[13:53] <usr13> yixuan: lsb_release -a   #What does that say?
[13:53] <erozio> llutz_: thnks
[13:53] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: chroot "option" is what?
[13:53] <mix22891> wine sayed that is not excusible file
[13:54] <rabbi1> also, it says grub is not loaded
[13:54] <h00k> mix22891: check in #winehq
[13:54] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: http://pastebin.com/5BytnVGK
[13:54] <rabbi1> also, it says grub is not *installed
[13:54] <h00k> !appdb > mix22891
[13:54] <Pici> erozio: You should take a look at the INSTALL or README file(s) that come in the yagf tarball.
[13:54] <erozio> Pici: i run "./configure" first, but nothing happened
[13:54] <usr13> rabbi1: What CD did you install from?
[13:54] <erozio> i checked them
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: you can change the terminal from the liveCD to the installed one after you mount the system partition
[13:55] <erozio> Pici: i checked them =)
[13:55] <yixuan> usr13: sent lsb result for you in private window, it is 11.10
[13:55] <mix22891> thanks ubottu
[13:55] <erozio> Pici: there's only some common info about yagf
[13:55] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: ok, now try "rescue 518MB   250GB"
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> mix22891: you need to use chmod to make the file executable
[13:56] <usr13> yixuan: sudo apt-get update
[13:56] <jsebean> Hi all I checked the MD5 of both images they are both identical to !hash
[13:56] <Pici> erozio: It looks like it requires qmake, install that and tnhen run qmake in that path.
[13:56] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: ok, thats not the situation here, I had installed 9.10 and the grub crashed (or may be not loading properly) then tried to get 11.04 Live CD and trying to restore my previous grub.
[13:56] <mix22891> ActionParsnip:  what is chmod?
[13:56] <yixuan> usr13: seems normal.
[13:56] <usr13> yixuan: sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:57] <erozio> Pici: could u describe that more detailed please?
[13:57] <jsebean> Hi all I checked the MD5 of both images they are both identical to the md5 on the ubuntu website.... I am still getting ubiquity after I boot to the HDD, any ideas?
[13:57] <jsebean> By both images I mean the 32bit and 64bit
[13:58] <Ristovski> anyone help me?
[13:58] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: okay did it but nothing popped up or did anything just went below it and still says parted
[13:58] <rabbi1> I had installed 9.10 and the grub crashed (or may be not loading properly) then tried to get 11.04 Live CD and trying to restore my previous grub.
[13:58] <mix22891> ActionParsnip:  what is chmod?
[13:58] <DeadPanda> Is there much I can do when Banshee keeps stubbornly refusing to write metadata to files?
[13:58] <jsebean> Chmod is permissions
[13:58] <usr13> !grub | rabbi1
[13:58] <chris____> @Ristovski shoot...
[13:58] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: print again?  and paste output?
[13:59] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: http://pastebin.com/1e7M5dxa
[13:59] <jsebean> mix22891: you use chmod to change permissions of files. Eg. to make them executable.
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> mix22891: its a way to change if something is writable, readable and executable
[13:59] <Ristovski> chris____  i installed to SD card ... booted then a fucking message box comes out saying not enough space when there is 2GB left
[13:59] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: http://pastebin.com/X9GvfWRV
[13:59] <jsebean> Hi all I checked the MD5 of both images i downloaded of ubuntu they are both identical to the md5 on the ubuntu website.... I am still getting ubiquity after I boot to the HDD, any ideas? I installed with USB.
[14:00] <h00k> !language | Ristovski
[14:00] <Ristovski> jsebean : you used live cd and THEN installed to USB? or directly?
[14:00] <usr13> Ristovski: sudo fdisk -l  | pastebinit
[14:00] <Ristovski> usr13 : I cant get on linux!
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> mix22891: if the file is stored on FAT or NTFS then it will not hold the executableness. You will need to mount the entire partition so that ALL files are executable. If it is stored in a linux file system then this will work fine
[14:00] <Ristovski> you get the point?
[14:00] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: ok, so it did not recognize a filesystem on the partition.  you said that is the ubuntu install?  So the filesystem should be ext4?
[14:01] <erozio> Pici: are u still with me?
[14:01] <Pici> erozio: It looks like getdeb has built packages for yagf: http://www.getdeb.net/software/yagf
[14:01] <mbeierl> Ristovski: calm down, pleaes
[14:01] <usr13> Ristovski: One of your partitions is obviously full.  You need to find out which one it is and change partition sizes to suit your needs.
[14:01] <Ristovski> I cant...Im trying to fix ubuntu for 2 months
[14:01] <erozio> Pici: yes, llutz__ has told me that 2 mins ago
[14:01] <jsebean> Ristovski : I used USB to install the OS. No CD involved. And I didn't boot in the "live cd" to test ubuntu at all, i just directly installed it
[14:01] <Ristovski> usr13 : there is 2GB left...
[14:02] <usr13> Ristovski: On which partitions?  What partitions do you have?
[14:02] <erozio> Pici: by the way, how did u understand, that getdeb has packeges?
[14:02] <Promille_> Is irc.ubuntu.com and irc.freenode.org the same server?
[14:02] <rubbs> Does anyone else have an issue with terminal bells not sounding with Unity?
[14:02] <Pici> Promille_: yes
[14:02] <erozio> Pici: i mean, how to find repos?
[14:02] <Promille_> Pici: ok, thanks
[14:02] <Pici> erozio: I just did some various google searches.
[14:02] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: win7,
[14:03] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: Sda1 is the boot i think or whatever for win7 and sda2 is the actual win7
[14:03] <jsebean> Hi all I checked the MD5 of both images i downloaded of ubuntu they are both identical to the md5 on the ubuntu website.... I am still getting ubiquity after I boot to the HDD, any ideas? I installed with USB, I used another computer with Ubuntu and used the startup disk creator to make the bootable USB.
[14:03] <erozio> Pici: ohhh i failed them =( there were only results in my native language, and there's nothing about getdeb
[14:03] <erozio> Pici: anyway, thanks a lot
[14:03] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: oh, sorry, misunderstood something then.  ok, so the filesystem itself should be ntfs.  give me a moment, please...
[14:04] <swim> I'm using ubuntu 10.04 on a dell d600.  My right alt key does not work.  I've replaced the keyboard twice..
[14:05] <DeadPanda> since it looks like Banshee's metadata writing is a little conservative, I'm just putting together a quick and dirty Python script to force metadata updates using the banshee library DB
[14:05] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: humour me, tell me if "check 2" in parted does anything useful...
[14:05] <DeadPanda> if anybody's interested give me a shout and I'll pastebin it
[14:05] <onlineamateur> swim: Open a terminal and type xev and press the key and see if it shows anything
[14:05] <jsebean> oh dear ignore my stupid question I found out whats up, now i feel dumb lol
[14:06] <jsebean> apparently i had an Ubuntu CD also inserted in the Computer, when I took out the USB it booted from CD. UGH sorry
[14:06] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: http://pastebin.com/Y2TfxR3F
[14:06] <swim> onlineamateur no, it doesn't work there, and neither does the right ctrl key
[14:06] <javier__> hi. I'm under ubuntu 11.04 but i want to install in a different partition another linux distribution that would make my batery life longer in order to use it in trips. What advise can you give me? which distribution safe most battery?
[14:07] <h00k> javier__: that would probably be a better discussion for ##linux than in here.
[14:07] <h00k> javier__: since it's not an Ubuntu specific support question
[14:07] <javier__> h00k: you are right
[14:07] <javier__> I'll go there. Thanks!
[14:07] <swim> javier__ just install a lxde interface to your ubuntu
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> uit
[14:08] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: oooo.  that's not so good.  ok, so because it's ntfs and the tools there a little different than normal, the next thing I would recommend doing is finding enough space to make a copy of the partition data and work directly against that instead of the raw partition.
[14:09] <onlineamateur> swim: Did it work right after you installed ubuntu?
[14:09] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: i don't suppose you have a spare 232gb disk lying around, do you?
[14:09] <swim> nope, that's when i first noticed it i believe,  i use that key all the time
[14:09] <javier__> swim: what is lxde interface?
[14:10] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: i dont have enough space on this hard drive, but i have a computer beside me i could..
[14:10] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: i been meaning to reformat the other hardrive anyways so im not worried about losing the data on my other 500gb
[14:10] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: how will you copy it there?
[14:10] <swim> javier__ there's some great tutorials online that explain installing alternative interfaces to ubuntu and the benefits of doing so
[14:10] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: or can you shut down and install it into the computer under repair?
[14:11] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: i have no idea, i could just install the other hard drive in this computer..
[14:11] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: i mean is that what you're asking? is to make a backup of the partition im trying to recover?
[14:12] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: yes, that is basically it.  i would not want to attempt a repair and end up destroying your only copy of the data
[14:13] <javier__> swim: that would let me use both unity and lxde interface? is it to choose when loggin in as when you choose unity or classic ubuntu?
[14:13] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: the next step is to use the ntfsfix program to see if it can find anything useful in the partition.  Syntax: ntfsfix /dev/sda2
[14:13] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: but I would like you to have a backup before we try that
[14:14] <swim> javier__ exactly..  only you'd be choosing to login using the lxde interface, which is like running lubuntu, much more lightweight of an interface
[14:14] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: alright will you be here when i come back?
[14:14] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: why I thought that was your Ubuntu install partition is you said that the live cd was on the ubuntu partition and you could not get to it
[14:14] <javier__> swim: that's great, what I was looking for. Thanks, I will google more about it
[14:15] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: i should be, depending on how long you're gone :)  I'm around for about 6 more hours
[14:15] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: yeah, i have win7 and ubuntu, backtrack 5 r1 heh
[14:15] <swim> javier__ it may not be the answer to your question, but it's worth knowing about and maybe trying at least
[14:15] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: lol if it takes me 6hours to install a hard drive.. then id like you to shun me :p
[14:15] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: can you just mount that ubuntu partition and put it live cd iso onto a usb stick?
[14:15] <javier__> swim: looks better a light interface for my same distribution that another distribution. If it saves battery, may be what I'm looking for
[14:16] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: don't tempt fate, man.  you have no idea how wrong things can go even with a simple hdd install :)  But it is better now in the days of SATA than the old ide primary/slave
[14:16] <nullcore> arand: why shouldn't i uninstall anything installed using tasksel?
[14:17] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: im looking at gparted and i see /dev/sda3 ntfs /label ubuntu...
[14:17] <swim> javier__  i'd at least give it a shot..  it's hard to find other distros that dual boot with ubuntu that don't end up being a big hassle..   now if you install ubuntu after having another distro installed, that's much easier..
[14:17] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: so you should be able to "sudo mkdir -p /mnt/ubuntu ; sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/ubuntu"
[14:18] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/91753173.png/
[14:18] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: and voila, you have your ubuntu partition mounted
[14:18] <runlevelten> hi folks. in Gnome 2.32.1, how does a user remove the generated entry from under "Connect to server" when using/browsing the remote machine is done - ie: switch off(unmount) what they did with the GUI?
[14:18] <KMNsadface> mb okay so just copy and paste " sudo mkdir -p  /mnt/ubuntu ; sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/ubuntu"
[14:18] <runlevelten> (if anyone knows)
[14:18] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: oh.  hold up...
[14:18] <swim> javier__ but like those other guys said, i'd ask in the linux channels too..  there are some really knowledgeable people around this server who know a whole lot more about that stuff than i do.. i just thought i'd mention lxde or xfce because i personally like them so much
[14:19] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: it says that /dev/sda3 is filesystem type NTFS.  Apparently /that/ is your Windows partition now?!?
[14:19] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: honestly.. i have no idea my computer is trolling me :(
[14:19] <javier__> lxde is lighter than xfce, isnt it?
[14:20] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: so yes, let's try first: "sudo mkdir /mnt/recovery", then "sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/recovery"
[14:20] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: /sda3 should be my Ubuntu i believe, /sda5 is Backtrack and /sda2 is win7.. i THINK
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> anyone has a solution for the kworker bug? http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-717919%5D-re-acpi-kworker-high-interrupts-134097/
[14:21] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: then do a "ls -al /mnt/recovery" and tell me if it there is a  "/mnt/recovery/Windows" or "/mnt/recovery/lost+found"
[14:21] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: there will be lots of other files in that directory too
[14:22] <runlevelten> ah, scratch that, I think I've just had nautilus crash - I thought the desktop icon had been removed
[14:23] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: http://pastebin.com/6Yt08hKs
[14:25] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: ??  Wow.  that's a new one.  Are there more there, or is that it?  That is definitely an NTFS partition, as shown by the $RECYCLE.BIN
[14:25] <mbeierl> anyone here familiary with Wubi?  Would take make an install like what is shown by KMNsadface's pastebin?
[14:25] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: thats my ubuntu, i had WoW mounted from my win7 to ubuntu; and rhe recycle bin f*** knows lol
[14:26] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: but i do remember seeing it before.
[14:27] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: i did use Wubi to install ubuntu if that's what you're asking.
[14:29] <SpiderFred> hi when I use pc="uname -n" its just write uname -n, how to make it execute command and write output?
[14:29] <SpiderFred> *as variable
[14:29] <llutz_> SpiderFred: pc=$(uname -n)
[14:29] <SpiderFred> llutz_: thx
[14:32] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: ok, that makes sense.  I've never actually seen a Wubi install before.  It's somewhat ... unusual, but it makes sense that it installs Ubuntu under an NTFS file system.  So, yes, then /dev/sda3 is your ubuntu install
[14:32] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: busy for a bit, go ahead and put the new HD into your box
[14:33] <Gredeu> depends diapers due to irritable bowel syndrm starting at age 50 is a very serious offense against ubuntu
[14:33] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> What'S Wubi?
[14:34] <Gredeu> think of my future wife
[14:34] <OerHeks> Wubi is a windows installer for ubuntu inside windows
[14:34] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> What's Windows?
[14:35] <swim> javier__ yes it is.. sorry i fell asleep
[14:35] <OerHeks> please don't troll, MAREK_BENC_NetB
[14:35] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Ok
[14:36] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Is there a way i can Disassemble Initrd?
[14:38] <llutz_> MAREK_BENC_NetB: gunzip </boot/initrd.img|cpio -i --make-directories
[14:38] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Ty
[14:41] <itai_michaelson> hi,  i have a dpkg question, i need to build a package with a "--enable-password-save " argument, can anyone tell me the syntax ,is it dpkg-i <package name> ----enable-password-save  ?
[14:41] <jrib> itai_michaelson: you mean as an option to ./configure?
[14:42] <itai_michaelson> jrib, honestly , i'm not sure. in the man page it asked me to build the package with this option , i assumed it can be done with dpkg,
[14:43] <BluesKaj> bbl
[14:43] <jrib> itai_michaelson: you would have to rebuild the package after editing debian/rules.  What package?
[14:43] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: okay sounds good, sorry for delay i had someone come to the door.
[14:43] <OerHeks> after update flash 10.3.183.10, my chromium askes for ... update 10.3.183.10 :(
[14:43] <itai_michaelson> jrib, openvpn , i've downloaded it with apt , a deb , it's sitting in my var directory
[14:44] <OerHeks> what do i need to do to get this right ?
[14:44] <jrib> !source | itai_michaelson
[14:44] <jrib> itai_michaelson: why do you need this option?
[14:45] <itai_michaelson> jrib,  i want to autologin to the vpn server without having to input my credentials everytime
[14:45] <jrib> itai_michaelson: in fact I am looking at openvpn's debian/rules now and I see that it was buillt with --enable-password-save
[14:47] <erozio> hey guys
[14:48] <itai_michaelson> jrib, well whenever i run openvpn from the terminal everything is ok, but when i run this script "gnome-terminal --working-directory /etc/openvpn -e 'bash -lc "cd /etc/openvpn ;sudo openvpn --config 15\ -\ myvpn\ tw3.ovpn --auth-user-pass credentials ;bash"', it doesnt connect to the vpn, so i assumed it's the enable-password thing (only cause i saw it on the ubuntu forum and the guy who wrote it mentions that option)
[14:48] <erozio> i got qt 4.6.2, i need 4.7+ for some software, how to renew it?
[14:49] <jrib> itai_michaelson: i checked the natty version
[14:49] <itai_michaelson> jrib, oh I'm running karmic
[14:50] <itai_michaelson> jrib, can you check the karmic version for me ?
[14:50] <LmtdAt> How do I check an environment variable?
[14:50] <tomodachi> LmtdAt: type export
[14:50] <LmtdAt> echo envvar doesn't work, am I doing it wrong, or does the var not exist?
[14:50] <LmtdAt> tomodachi, beautiful
[14:51] <tomodachi> LmtdAt: or echo $yourvariable
[14:51] <llutz_> LmtdAt: echo $envvar
[14:51] <tomodachi> LmtdAt: beat you!
[14:51] <LmtdAt> so, when DISPLAY=":0.0", what does that mean?
[14:51] <tomodachi> LmtdAt: it defines where your X server is supposed to start this means from a local machine
[14:51] <LmtdAt> did llutz write reflector?
[14:52] <LmtdAt> What if DISPLAY isn't present in export?
[14:53] <llutz_> LmtdAt: either no X running or just no DISPLAY exported
[14:53] <LmtdAt> llutz, ah
[14:54] <martian> Is there a keyboard shortcut to open a new tab in a gnome-terminal?
[14:54] <gribouille> hi
[14:54] <gribouille> is oneiric beta 2 released?
[14:54] <jrib> itai_michaelson: i cannot, but you can :)  Did you see ubottu's !source factoid?
[14:54] <llutz_> martian: ctrl-shift-t
[14:55] <martian> llutz_: thanks!
[14:55] <jrib> !karmic | itai_michaelson
[14:56] <OerHeks> after update flash 10.3.183.10, my chromium askes for ... update 10.3.183.10 :( what do i need to do to get this right ?
[14:56] <gribouille> is oneiric beta 2 released?
[14:56] <jrib> !oneiric | gribouille
[14:57] <itai_michaelson> jrib, i saw the link, this fetches the source, how do i tell if the that package was built with that option (yes i know i should upgrade, but my online banking depends on a very specific version of FF...)
[14:57] <erozio> how to update qt libraries?
[14:57] <gribouille> jrib, that doesn't answer my question
[14:57] <jrib> itai_michaelson: read debian/rules in the openvpn* directory
[14:58] <jrib> gribouille: #ubuntu+1 for your question
[14:59] <itai_michaelson> jrib, is that before or after i build the package ?
[14:59] <jrib> itai_michaelson: no building, we're just reading the file
[14:59] <itai_michaelson> jrib, thanks
[14:59] <burg> hello. can i create new email accounts without creating new ubuntu users?
[15:00] <llutz_> itai_michaelson: if your "..online banking depends on a very  specific version of FF.." and that needs ancient OS like karmic you'd consider to swap the bank ;)
[15:00] <jrib> llutz_: yes it does seem like an "interesting" policy
[15:01] <llutz_> burg: depends on your mta, "virtual users" is the way to go
[15:01] <itai_michaelson> llutz, thanks, but i didnt choose the bank, my company did
[15:02] <burg> llutz, i use postfix
[15:02] <g0rs> Hi, can I pm anybody about a cultural question or thing?
[15:02] <llutz_> itai_michaelson: swap it too :)  but seriously: they should think about that, using that old stuff is not ver safe
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> anyone who has heard of and knows a solution for the kworker bug? http://askubuntu.com/questions/33640/kworker-what-is-it-and-why-is-it-hogging-so-much-cpu
[15:03] <necopost> 11.04 Suspend mode wont work.
[15:03] <llutz_> burg: visit postfix.org, use the documentation, read about "virtual users"
[15:04] <jrib> itai_michaelson: does the site just not work with more recent firefox?  If it's a useragent issue, I'd try just modifying that.  Otherwise, I'd suggest running current ubuntu and installing the firefox version manually using an old tarball
[15:04] <g0rs> has anybody used pgp with evolution email client?
[15:06] <jazonn> is it possible to install to a virtual harddrive and boot entirely from that (natively not a vm)? kind of like windows and its native .vhd booting?
[15:07] <compdoc> a virtual harddrive has to exist somewhere - ram or a file
[15:07] <itai_michaelson> jrib, i think it was build with that option, can you please confirm it : http://paste.ubuntu.com/695147/ ?
[15:07] <jrib> itai_michaelson: yes, looks like it
[15:08] <itai_michaelson> jrib, ok, so i guess my problem is elsewhere.....
[15:08] <jrib> itai_michaelson: probably (I have to go now but would probably not be much help with openvpn anyway; good luck)
[15:09] <itai_michaelson> jrib, thanks, at least i learned about apt today
[15:09] <jazonn> compdoc yes as a file, but windows can boot from that file and not an HD install which is what im trying to do with ubuntu if possible
[15:11] <Teh_Lemon> hello
[15:11] <Teh_Lemon> is there a way to make a password expire but
[15:11] <Teh_Lemon> when i want to log back in
[15:11] <Teh_Lemon> ask for a different password
[15:11] <jpmh> I just installed and the firefox is 3. how do I make it upgrade to the 6.
[15:11] <Teh_Lemon> lets say... temp passwords for an account
[15:12] <delac> in Imagemagick, is it possible to set background color for deskew?
[15:12] <bluebomber> Teh_Lemon: Yes. The passwd command.
[15:12] <Teh_Lemon> and when you come back, for example ask for root pass to generate a new one
[15:12] <necopost> hello
[15:12] <bluebomber> Teh_Lemon: You can use passwd to do lots of things with user accounts, like lock them, expire their passwords, etc. $ man passwd
[15:13] <Teh_Lemon> will try
[15:13] <Teh_Lemon> xD
[15:13] <rabbi1> ikonia: hey, what should i do? just got nothing now, tried all. unable to login to system root from live cd terminal :(
[15:13] <MyWay> hello, I can't find mouse speed in mouse settings.. how to set it?
[15:13] <jiltdil> HOw to upgrade falsh in 64bit ubuntu 11.05
[15:13] <jiltdil> *11.04
[15:13] <Teh_Lemon> you meant 11.04
[15:13] <Teh_Lemon> xD
[15:13] <ikonia> rabbi1: why are you trying to login as root ?
[15:13] <necopost> Hello, Suspend mode wont work for me on Ubuntu 11.04
[15:14] <rabbi1> ikonia: ok, let me chuck everything... I had 9.10 installed but crashed. grub is not loading, so what next ?
[15:14] <ikonia> rabbi1: your machine has a hardware problem.......
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[15:15] <rabbi1> ikonia: apart from the CDROM?
[15:15] <ikonia> rabbi1: it's not just the cdrom,
[15:15] <ikonia> rabbi1: your hard disk is refusing to boot.
[15:15] <rabbi1> ikonia: how do i know that, if you could please tell?
[15:16] <ikonia> rabbi1: how do you know what ?
[15:16] <Teh_Lemon> hm...
[15:16] <Teh_Lemon> i dont see that option
[15:16] <Teh_Lemon> to ask for root password when creating a new temp password... only to ask someone to create a new one
[15:16] <rabbi1> ikonia: how can i know that my HDD is refusing?
[15:16] <stercor_> How do I get rid of a <defunct> process?
[15:16] <Nom-> Hi All.  I'm doing a tech refresh on a large email deployment, and looking for some tools to automate server deployment and configuration... any thoughts on where I could start?
[15:17] <ikonia> rabbi1: you told me your machine crashed randomly while using it, your machine now refuses to boot, and there are devices missing from the bios
[15:17] <llutz_> stercor_: wait or kill its parent (be carefull)
[15:17] <stercor_> llutz_: How do I determine its parent?
[15:17] <rabbi1> ikonia: that's just CDROM, that could be problem with that , not other hardware, bios is detecting USB and HDD
[15:17] <llutz_> stercor_: pstree
[15:18] <stercor_> llutz_: Thanks!
[15:18] <rabbi1> ikonia: i am able to boot ubuntu live from the USB
[15:18] <ikonia> rabbi1: why did your machine crash and your hard disk fail to boot
[15:19] <Teh_Lemon> i dont see that option
[15:19] <Teh_Lemon> to ask for root password when creating a new temp password... only to ask someone to create a new one
[15:19] <Teh_Lemon> please advise...
[15:19] <Teh_Lemon> maybe to lock account every 12h?
[15:19] <Petskull> Hey guys!
[15:19] <rumpe1> Teh_Lemon, search for "-x"
[15:19] <rumpe1> Teh_Lemon, in man passwd
[15:20] <Wiz_KeeD> can anyone please tell me how i can copy the whole contents of a file edited with nano from the terminal?
[15:20] <H0pi> hi
[15:20] <H0pi> can someone help me configure a proxy?
[15:20] <rumpe1> Teh_Lemon, do you want to configure some kind of "guest" account?
[15:20] <LaWU> What is the best programming application to use on Ubuntu, for someone who wants to learn programming?
[15:20] <ikonia> LaWU: depends on the language you want to learn
[15:20] <H0pi> i put the ip address and the port in the proxy switcher but doenst work
[15:20] <rumpe1> LaWU, there is no "best" one...
[15:21] <Nom-> Basically I'm looking for a way to have a zero touch server build, where I power something on and X minutes later it's got the OS installed, configured and ready to serve client load as whatever server type i've designated it.  Someone must have put some doco into the wiki, I just can't find it :)
[15:21] <jpmh> LaWU:  perl
[15:21] <Teh_Lemon> hm...
[15:21] <Teh_Lemon> not guess
[15:21] <Teh_Lemon> guest
[15:21] <Teh_Lemon> my own account
[15:21] <Teh_Lemon> i dont want multiple accounts
[15:21] <FloodBot1> Teh_Lemon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:21] <Teh_Lemon> i want it to lock itself every 12h. i have some personal problems that require such option
[15:21] <arfbtwn> hi there, has anyone got any experience running latest banshee (from git) on ubuntu natty? I know there's a daily ppa but I was planning on trying to write extensions.
[15:21] <Petskull> Hey- I'm about to resize my win7 partition so I can install Natty on my Vaio-  is there a way to do it without the recovery CD?
[15:22] <llutz_> Teh_Lemon: make a cron-job shutting down your machine every 12 hrs
[15:22] <Petskull> 'cause I'm sorta in Afghanistan atm
[15:22] <Teh_Lemon> hm... no shutdown
[15:22] <ikonia> Petskull: no, you can't be using the disk while you're resizing it
[15:22] <MyWay> I can't find mouse speed in mouse settings.. how to set it?
[15:22] <Petskull> um... what?
[15:22] <ikonia> Petskull: so you need to boot from somewhere else
[15:22] <Teh_Lemon> if its already on, dont do anything
[15:22] <Petskull> I mean after I resize the ntfs partition
[15:22] <Teh_Lemon> or just lock computer and ask for ... 'higher power' to open it
[15:22] <Teh_Lemon> unlock it*
[15:22] <ikonia> Petskull: to resize a disk, you need to not be using the disk, so thats why you need to boot from a mediau
[15:23] <ikonia> Petskull: sorry, am I miss-understanding. What is your question.
[15:23] <Petskull> ok ok, I'm on an ubuntu livecd right now
[15:23] <ikonia> Petskull: ok
[15:23] <LaWU> @ikonia, rumpel & jpmh: Thanks for the answers. Well like I stated, I'm looking for something to learn programming on, so ofcourse, it should be easy to use, and it should have some form support/ guids online for new programmers. As for the language, I got no clue - suggestions?
[15:23] <Petskull> I need to resize my ntfs partiton with gparted to make space for the ubuntu install
[15:23] <rumpe1> Teh_Lemon, i can't think of any scenario in which this would make any sense
[15:23] <llutz_> Petskull: win7 can resize partitions, no need for a cd
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 can someone help me configure a proxy?
 i put the ip address and the port in the proxy switcher but doenst work
[15:24] <h000pi>  
[15:24] <Petskull> I keep reading that this hoses win7 and I need the win recovery CD to fix it
[15:24] <FloodBot1> h000pi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:24] <h000pi> tr00l
[15:24] <Petskull> that cd is kinda not an option for me
[15:24] <ikonia> Petskull: is windows broke ?
[15:24] <ikonia> Petskull: it shouldn't break it
[15:24] <mk1342> Petskull: rezising the partition with gparted won't break windows
[15:24] <Teh_Lemon> 2 users using computer. one is overusing, and he needs to be controled. without making 2 accounts.
[15:24] <Petskull> so I ask you, what other options do I have?
[15:25] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Petskull: What do you mean?
[15:25] <ikonia> Petskull: ask long as you've run all the precautions before hand (defrag, chkdisk, etc) you should be fine
[15:25] <Petskull> um.. I remember I had to do backflips on WinVista because is made it hard on purpose
[15:25] <llutz_> Teh_Lemon: theres hardly a technical solution for social problems
[15:25] <rumpe1> LaWU, There are tutorials/howtos for every known language on the web. But if you want to learn ubuntu/linux/etc., why not start with a shell (like bash) and start with little scripts? Maybe an backup-script?
[15:25] <h000pi> someone?
[15:25] <mk1342> Petskull: however, installing ubuntu will overwrite the boot manager used by windows (but the boot manager used by ubuntu can also boot windows)
[15:25] <h000pi> someone?
[15:25] <h000pi> asdasdasdfasdfas
[15:25] <FloodBot1> h000pi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:25] <Petskull> you sure win7 doesn't do the same thing?
[15:26] <Petskull> ikonia, have you resized a Win7 partition?  did it work with no problem?
[15:26] <Teh_Lemon> i am teh ... 'god' one. so i want to limit computer that it self locks every 12h
[15:26] <Teh_Lemon> lol
[15:26] <mbeierl> Teh_Lemon: perhaps you could explain your request again?  I am not sure I understand what you would like done.  You want your password to expire every 12 hours ...
[15:26] <ikonia> Petskull: yes, many times
[15:27] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Petskull: Me too, when i was a WinFAG
[15:27] <Petskull> alright, you seems like a trustworthy fellow in you tux and stuff
[15:27] <rumpe1> Teh_Lemon, then i would recommend you to look for some kind of advanced user-control
[15:27] <ikonia> MAREK_BENC_NetB: that attitude is unaccepable, please stop it now
[15:27] <Petskull> thanks, MAREK_BENC_NetB
[15:27] <dj_beirut> hi.. i am running ubuntu and i can't make deluge-daemon run on startup. i have to run sudo deluged and sudo deluge-web to start it up every time. can anyone help? i am new to linux!
[15:27] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> understood
[15:27] <mbeierl> Teh_Lemon: oh, you don't actually want your password to change, you want the account to do something like lock the screen so that a password is required to access it again
[15:27] <rabbi1> ikonia: have no idea, i was using windows on virtual machine and openoffice writer that's it
[15:27] <Petskull> do you know what I'm talking about resizing Win7?
[15:27] <rubbs> dj_beirut: http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/UserGuide/InitScript
[15:28] <ikonia> Petskull: yes, and it's fine
[15:28] <ikonia> rabbi1: boot from a remote media, and see if you can mount the internal disk
[15:28] <Petskull> it had those 2 immovable blocks at the end of the partition SPECIFICALLY so you couldn't resize it?
[15:28] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Petskull: Try to defrag?
[15:29] <Petskull> because there's a few links out here that say you need the windows recovery CD- like the HowToGeek
[15:29] <rabbi1> ikonia: tried last time, but now again i am on it. trying to boot from USB, but takes lot of time, with that "DRDY ERR, and ABRT error " this runs continuously, takes heavy time to boot from USB
[15:29] <Petskull> MAREK_BENC_NetB, yeah, that's what I'm thinking
[15:29] <mk1342> Petskull: you don't need the windows CD, just resize using GParted and you should be fine
[15:29] <ikonia> rabbi1: it sounds like you have a hardware error.......again
[15:29] <auronandace> Petskull: just use gparted
[15:30] <Petskull> alright- game on.  Thanks, guys!
[15:30] <rumpe1> Teh_Lemon, maybe this could be useful for you: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/03/parental-control-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[15:30] <rabbi1> ikonia: ok, i think this time if i get ubuntu Desktop, will just take a backup of "File System" to EHDD
[15:31] <rabbi1> ikonia: will try once to restore grub.. last time when i typed "grub" it said "no grub installed".
[15:31] <Petskull> Did I mention Unity doesn't come up on this LiveCD?  I think my video drivers are crap here
[15:31] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: you still here?
[15:32] <dj_beirut> rubbs i have already done that.. but i can't run "sudo /etc/init.d/deluge-daemon start / stop"
[15:32] <Petskull> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 0df0 (rev a1)
[15:32] <Petskull>    <---- Great.
[15:32] <bhavesh> Netbeans installer fails on Ubuntu 10.10 Linux, it says Can't Initialize UI when I do sh ./Path/To/Netbeans_setup.sh
[15:33] <bhavesh> so how am I supposed to install netbeans 7.1?
[15:33] <Jcook_5xData> any one here use a E350 processor/GPU?
[15:33] <KMNsadface> hello, i had a user in here earlier telling me it would be a better idea to backup my partition before i attempt to recover it, i just installed my spare hardrive - how do i COPY it and place it on my spare HD?
[15:34] <compdoc> Jcook_5xData, I was looking for a fast, low power system to record security cam footage, and the E350 was one I looked at. But I didnt get it
[15:35] <Petskull> Recommendations on a 300Gb "data" partition to be read from both Ubuntu and Windows?
[15:35] <Petskull> NTFS?
[15:35] <mk1342> Petskull: most likely, yes
[15:35] <Petskull> too big for FAT32, I think
[15:35] <Petskull> yeah, I'll do that
[15:36] <auronandace> Petskull: you can use fat32 if you know for certain you won't be dealing with files over 4gb
[15:36] <auronandace> Petskull: but yeah, ntfs is the better choice
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> Petskull: ntfs
[15:37] <Petskull> Hey, look!  Another Me!
[15:37] <Petskull> ok, going to go defrag
[15:37] <Petskull> (the compu is new, like 3 days old)
[15:37] <Petskull_> bye, Petskull!!
[15:38] <Goldline> hey guys its 9/22 wheres beta 2?
[15:38] <Goldline> im looking at the website of ubuntu but i cant seem to find it
[15:38] <auronandace> !11.10 | Goldline
[15:38] <Petskull> I can't defrag the Win7 partition from ubuntu, can I?
[15:38] <jpmh> LaWU: one of the reasons I suggest perl is that there are so many beginners guides - things like lern perl in 30 days etc
[15:38] <Goldline> Yah i know but im refering to beta 2 as mentioned in the release scedule
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Petskull: no, you'll need windows for that, or a 3rd party too on liveCD etc
[15:38] <auronandace> Petskull: not defrag, but you can chkdisk
[15:38] <Goldline> wheres was the forumthread hold on
[15:39] <Petskull> yeah, I'll reboot- no biggy
[15:39] <Petskull> thanks a billion, guys
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> Goldline: its still oneiric, oneiric is discussed only in #ubuntu+1
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> Goldline: until release day anyhoo
[15:39] <dj_beirut> how can i check why a script is not running on startup??
[15:40] <smftre> hello guys, hopefully someone can help me, I have just installed Ubuntu Server and I cannot get the networking to work, basically I would like to enable the wireless card to connect to an access point. If I do iwconfig, it tells me wlan0 exists and not associated to access point.
[15:40] <Goldline> here check thi forumthread clearly states 9/22 beta 2
[15:40] <Goldline> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1747647
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[15:40] <h000pi> <h000pi> <H0pi> can someone help me configure a proxy?
[15:40] <h000pi> <h000pi> <H0pi> i put the ip address and the port in the proxy switcher but doenst work
[15:40] <bagels> I need help installing a program on a 64bit system, but the deb is 32-bit.  I have a tutorial I'm following and a pastebin.
[15:40] <KMNsadface> hello, i had a user in here earlier telling me it would be a better idea to backup my partition before i attempt to recover it, i just installed my spare hardrive - how do i COPY it and place it on my spare HD?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> dj_beirut: add commands in the script to output text to another file, you can then open the file and see what is in the output file (if anything)
[15:41] <auronandace> Goldline: you've already been told you are in the wrong channel
[15:41] <rubbs> dj_beirut: have you checked whats in /var/log/syslog?
[15:41] <dj_beirut> ActionParsnip can't i check it in logs?
[15:41] <smftre> I'm in the right channel, help me :D
[15:41] <ToeKutter> Bought:  http://www.woot.com/
[15:41] <AlecTaylor> http://askubuntu.com/questions/62556/cant-use-mouse-hyper-v-with-ubuntu-server-11-04
[15:41] <delac> in Imagemagick, is it possible to set background color for deskew?
[15:41] <nuclearworm> hello , is there a similar program to namebench on ubuntu repositories?
[15:41] <Jcook_5xData> KMNsadface, you base an ez thing would be clozezilla
[15:41] <Jcook_5xData> best
[15:42] <smftre> anyone know how to setup wireless card on ubuntuserver?
[15:42] <KMNsadface> Jcook_5xData: cloze or clonezilla
[15:42] <Jcook_5xData> KMNsadface, sorry clonezilla
[15:42] <Jcook_5xData> :)
[15:43] <KMNsadface> hehe okay, thanks!
[15:43] <auronandace> smftre: you could ask in #ubuntu-server they may be more helpful
[15:43] <Jcook_5xData> KMNsadface, ? what are you looking to backup
[15:43] <bagels> Does anyone know anything about getlib?
[15:43] <smftre> auronandace: thanks
[15:43] <auronandace> np
[15:43] <Jcook_5xData> KMNsadface, just your home or the whole system with boot sec
[15:44] <dj_beirut> rubbs there is no reference to deluge-daemon in syslog
[15:44] <wilson> hey
[15:44] <Guest35795> buenas tardes
[15:44] <Guest35795> español
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> nuclearworm: there is the 'best source button in softwae centre
[15:44] <Guest35795> quien puede
[15:44] <auronandace> !es | Guest35795
[15:45] <KMNsadface> Jcook_5xData: errm, i have 3 partitions Win7, Ubuntu and Backtrack5 R1 and im trying to recover my Win7.
[15:45] <Jcook_5xData> KMNsadface, yea with all that clonezilla
[15:45] <rubbs> dj_beirut: did you make changes to the init.d script? You need to change the username it runs as.
[15:46] <KMNsadface> Jcook_5xData: what would you suggest? just backup my win7?
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> anyone who has heard of and knows a solution for the kworker bug? http://askubuntu.com/questions/33640/kworker-what-is-it-and-why-is-it-hogging-so-much-cpu
[15:46] <dj_beirut> rubbs i said that it is supposed to run as deluge user...
[15:46] <nuclearworm> ActionParsnip , (best source button) can t find it...
[15:47] <bhavesh> anyone uses Netbeans 7.1 ?
[15:47] <Jcook_5xData> KMNsadface, will win7 boot or no?
[15:47] <rubbs> dj_beirut: did you create a deluge user? you have to make sure there's a user first. Also according to that page you could see if there is a log at: /var/log/deluge/daemon
[15:48] <KMNsadface> Jcook_5xData: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/91753173.png/
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> nuclearworm: I thought it was in software centre, have a sniff around, it may be in the software sources bit where you can change server. Not used software centre for ages now
[15:48] <KMNsadface> Jcook_5xData: Sda2 comes up "Unknown" under file system
[15:48] <dj_beirut> rubbs yes the user is created
[15:49] <dj_beirut> rubbs [ERROR   ] 17:35:13 configmanager:76 Unable to make config directory: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/deluge'
[15:49] <mbeierl> KMNsadface: back now too.  the quickest way of getting this data off the partition and into a file that we can play with is to use "dd".  Do you have the new hard drive formatted and mounted?
[15:50] <rubbs> dj_beirut: I'd make sure the user can write to that directory
[15:50] <dj_beirut> that i get in /var/log/deluge-web
[15:50] <rubbs> dj_beirut: http://apocryph.org/2008/11/30/setting_deluge_headless_ubuntu_seedbox_windows_client/ is what that wiki page was based off of
[15:50] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: im currently making room on the hardrive partitioning it so we have 300gb to play with while my win7 is only 232gb
[15:51] <rubbs> dj_beirut: note: I've never done this, I just knew what to search for. You may have to do some googling on how to do init scripts for deluge.
[15:51] <rabbi1> is there a antivirus for ubuntu that can remove windows viruses ?
[15:51] <Jcook_5xData> KMNsadface, If i were you yes a clone the whole thing. when you recover win7 you will need to reinstall grab or your our OSes will not boot
[15:51] <lc_minh> ???
[15:51] <Jcook_5xData> grub*
[15:51] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: do you think it would be best to use Gparted or just boot into win7 on my other hardrive and use the partition manager there.
[15:51] <mk1342> rabbi1: clamAV?
[15:51] <bagels> I need help installing a program on a 64bit system, but the deb is 32-bit.  I have a tutorial I'm following and a pastebin. I'm using Getlib.  Can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[15:51] <rabbi1> mk1342: what?
[15:52] <dj_beirut> rubbs when i run  sudo -u deluge /etc/init.d/deluge-daemon i get this error
[15:52] <dj_beirut> start-stop-daemon: unable to open pidfile '/var/run/deluged.pid' for writing (Permission denied)
[15:52] <Jcook_5xData> KMNsadface, and no tell win7 may mess with stuff
[15:52] <nuclearworm> ActionParsnip , will web browsing be affected with ubuntu software center server choice?
[15:52] <mk1342> rabbi1: ClamAV is a decent ntivirus
[15:52] <rabbi1> damAV can remove windows viruses?
[15:52] <mk1342> rabbi1: *antivirus
[15:52] <rubbs> dj_beirut: you need to make sure the deluge user can write in the /var/run directory
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> nuclearworm: no, only package downloads
[15:52] <mk1342> rabbi1: I believe so
[15:52] <dj_beirut> rubbs how do i do that?
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> nuclearworm: you can install a local DNS which can make the web faster
[15:53] <rubbs> dj_beirut: one sec.
[15:53] <rubbs> !permissions | dj_beirut
[15:53] <rubbs> that might help.
[15:53] <KMNsadface> Jcook_5xData:, mbeierl okay.. maybe i should just grab what i need off of my win7 on my spare hardrive and place it in my backtrack and then clone the entire hardrive...?
[15:54] <rabbi1> mk1342: good man, thanks
[15:55] <rabbi1> coz this usb drives are like pros, they just get fkd everywhere
[15:55] <DeltaEpsilon> how do I launch gnome-terminal with my home dir as working dir?
[15:56] <auronandace> DeltaEpsilon: it defaults to your home directory
[15:56] <dimos> DeltaEpsilon, if i undestand you this command is that you want:  gnome-terminal
[15:57] <DeltaEpsilon> auronandace, it is not when I use it with a keyboard shortcut
[15:57] <SIFTU>  DeltaEpsilon there are plenty of ways, but you could put "cd ~" at the end of your .bashrc
[15:57] <dimos> DeltaEpsilon, Try with: Ctrl+Alt+T
[15:57] <KMNsadface> off topic but - just got one of these for free lol http://www.trademe.co.nz/Computers/Networking-modems/Hubs-switches/auction-405388876.htm
[15:58] <DeltaEpsilon> thanks dimos
[15:58] <dimos> :)
[15:58] <DeltaEpsilon> !encryption
[15:59] <Jcook_5xData> DeltaEpsilon, sudo aptitude install nautilus-open-terminal   it will put a menu option on right click to open term here
[15:59] <DeltaEpsilon> how do I encrypt my whole partition (/) and I need it to ask me a password before it boots up
[15:59] <M^jseongtae76> Hello, everyone
[16:00] <M^jseongtae76> My Apache2 is have problem
[16:00] <dimos> DeltaEpsilon, "chown" is better solve...
[16:00] <jpds> M^jseongtae76: You probably want #ubuntu-server
[16:00] <M^jseongtae76> I change DocumentRoot to my other hard disk
[16:01] <nyuszika7h> !gpg
[16:01] <DeltaEpsilon> dimos, I need to encrypt my data
[16:01] <M^jseongtae76> jpds,thanks
[16:02] <SIFTU> DeltaEpsilon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemOnIntrepid
[16:02] <bash> peope i need
[16:02] <bash> help
[16:03] <dimos> DeltaEpsilon, This helps? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[16:03] <bash> my file menu is opening and closing
[16:03] <bash> blinking
[16:04] <DeltaEpsilon> dimos, nope. I want to encrypt my / partition. I don't have a home partition
[16:04] <SIFTU> DeltaEpsilon: did you see the link I posted
[16:05] <DeltaEpsilon> SIFTU, can I encrypt a partition such as / that is in use?
[16:05] <dimos> DeltaEpsilon, sorry...
[16:05] <SIFTU> DeltaEpsilon: you can encrypt it in use.. you will have to copy it over to the encrypted partitions
[16:05] <SIFTU> DeltaEpsilon: sorry CANT
[16:06] <DeltaEpsilon> bitlcoker does this w/o any problem :-(
[16:06] <apporc> I am using ntfsundelete to recover some files on my ntfs partition .and there are some questions i need to ask here. Who is familiar with that?
[16:08] <apporc> I don't know how to use the -P option of ntfsundelete. Because whatever i do it says wrong usage.
[16:08] <SIFTU> DeltaEpsilon: luks works fine
[16:08] <DeltaEpsilon> does this work even if I don't have a /home partition? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#
[16:09] <burg> how can i make ubuntu create Maildir also for every new user?
[16:09] <maihsun> /wc/
[16:10] <bhavesh> what is the bash command for saving the current file in gedit? n=$GEDIT_CURRENT_DOCUMENT_NAME; now how do I save n?
[16:11] <rumpe1> bhavesh, saving the document from commandline, while gedit is running with the document?
[16:11] <bhavesh> yea
[16:12] <bhavesh> I'm editing a external tool to compile java to make it save the current document first
[16:13] <SIFTU> burg: you could try adding the dir to /etc/skel
[16:15] <bhavesh> rumpe1: nvm I found a option Save: below the external tools script.
[16:15] <SIFTU> bhavesh: you might need to use something like xautomate
[16:18] <zenlinux> Can anyone tell me when Oneiric Beta2 is expected today?
[16:18] <auronandace> !11.10 | zenlinux
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> zenlinux: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[16:18] <rumpe1> bhavesh, i can't find anything in the man. Maybe you can compile a custom-version of gedit, that reacts to signals from command line.
[16:18] <zenlinux> will do, thanks
[16:20] <kkulhavy> burg, I would recommend to try it with the /etc/skel, because we tried to do something like this too and it didnt work
[16:21] <kkulhavy> We assume because the program (KDE) stored some data which are user-specific
[16:21] <kkulhavy> and then the username stored in the file and the actual username mismatched when used in /etc/skel
[16:21] <osse> I installed a package with checkinstall but I assigned it a lower version number the package provided in the repos and so the update manager nags me all the time. How can I change the version number of a package "after the fact" ?
[16:24] <genii-around> osse: You might want to look into pinning instead
[16:25] <genii-around> !pinning | osse
[16:26] <Jcook_5xData> any one here use a AMD E350 processor/GPU laptop?
[16:27] <InfoLoco> Hello, I'm looking for help. WICD ask me for a password at start.  Compiz doesn't start with XFce (the only way is reload windows manager), and I can't add shortcuts to AWn, 'cause I can't edit  start menu. I appreciate your help. Best Regards!
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> InfoLoco: if you set a blank password for the keyring it won't bother you for password
[16:30] <osse> genii-around, thanks. I used the Synaptic-approach and it works. Though next time I'll probably just give the package I create a bogus name or 999 as the version number :P
[16:31] <jazonn> is it possible to install to a virtual harddrive and boot entirely from that (natively not a vm)? kind of like windows and its native .vhd booting?
[16:32] <InfoLoco> ActionParsnip: nope, i have 1
[16:32] <ybrjkfc> test
[16:34] <InfoLoco> k
[16:34] <rabbi1> ikonia: i am now in the boot menu of USB. What option can i go with ?
[16:34] <rabbi1> run from USB and install to Hard Disk takes lots of lots of time to load
[16:35] <InfoLoco> ActionParsnip: where in users settings?
[16:35] <jodlajodla> hello, which is the best editor program for php, html, css? thanks!
[16:36] <rumpe1> jodlajodla, vim
[16:36] <ybrjkfc> English only?
[16:36] <jodlajodla> rumpel, for html5, css3, ...?
[16:36] <dfcnvt> Hi, I'm having a problem with "System program problem detected" that kept on popping up. I did press "Report problem..." button and after I fill out the password and then it pop back right again three or four second later as if there is another problem. It keep doing that all the time.
[16:36] <Pici> !best | jodlajodla
[16:36] <ybrjkfc> jodlajodla gedit end nano
[16:37] <Xeneth> More of a general Linux Question.  What would the best book to read for an overall understanding of the internal workings of linux?
[16:37] <rabbi1> Xeneth: bible
[16:37] <dfcnvt> How do I prevent this?
[16:37] <Pici> Xeneth: try ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:37] <InfoLoco> users privileges has the all privileges
[16:38] <osse> rumpe1, I see what you did there
[16:38] <Jazon-> is it possible to install to a virtual harddrive and boot entirely from that (natively not a vm)? kind of like windows and its native .vhd booting?
[16:38] <jodlajodla> ubottu actually i just wanted to ask people which program they're using for the newest versions of HTML (5) and CSS (3)
[16:38] <faz> Xeneth: advanced programming in the unix environment   http://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Programming-UNIX-Environment-2nd/dp/0201433079
[16:38] <Xeneth> No big, I was already here and thought I would ask.  Didn't think it would hurt since Ubuntu Is linux.  :)
[16:38] <jodlajodla> ubottu lol :D
[16:39] <me-1> hi..how to fsck as root from a live CD
[16:40] <dfcnvt> me-1: type fsck once you're on liveCD.
[16:40] <dfcnvt> And... there you go!
[16:40] <me-1> dfcnvt,  from terminal..?
[16:40] <dfcnvt> ..Yes.
[16:40] <16WAAFA0T> Just installed 11.04, and now that I added compiz and ubuntu-tweak, my side bar... well actually everything disappeared.  Any suggestions?
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> 16WAAFA0T: run:  unity --replace
[16:41] <KMNsadface> mbeierl:  okay back was partitioning the space; should i be backing up all 3 OS or just the win7?
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> 16WAAFA0T: compiz is in a default install
[16:42] <me-1> Does VLC use properiatry  codecs..?
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> me-1: afaik, not by default
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> me-1: you can install them with ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> me-1: also install w32codecs (or w64codecs) from the medibuntu repos and you'll be able to play most stuff
[16:44] <Jazon-> is it possible to install to a virtual harddrive and boot entirely from that (natively not a vm)? kind of like windows and its native .vhd booting?  I was told its possible to install to boot from a .iso file, would it be possible to install to that or something similar and have it dynamically expand?
[16:44] <me-1> ActionParsnip,  but its not legal in my part of the world
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> Jazon-: seems you can, scroll to 4.2.2 http://www.vmlite.com/appliances/linux-mint-9-readme.html
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> Jazon-: I've never done it so you will have to play
[16:47] <KMNsadface> mbeierl: you here?
[16:48] <ujjain> How can I troubleshoot why Ubuntu does not shut down? (It shows an image, I want the text, I searched logs)
[16:48] <ujjain> so I want to know what it's doing that causes it to not shut down.
[16:48] <ujjain> and how can I boot apache2 at boot/start?
[16:49] <ujjain> sudo update–rc.d apache2 defaults < could this be it?
[16:51] <Guest43460> #ubuntu-es
[16:51] <Guest43460> Hi
[16:51] <thingfish> beta 2 is supposed to be out today, right?
[16:51] <Guest43460> For go to Spanish Chat?
[16:52] <bindi> Guest43460: type /join #ubuntu-es
[16:52] <Guest43460> ok, thx bindi
[16:53] <vak> What tools could help to write data to a Blu Ray disk?
[16:54] <soreau> vak: Do you have a Blu Ray burner and disks?
[16:54] <soreau> Id assume the hardware would be the most important item(s)..
[16:55] <alkafoo> I can't imagine why you'd want to
[16:55] <alkafoo> incredibly tedious, costly way to backup/transfer data
[16:55] <alkafoo> and oh yeah governments want to make you a criminal for doing it =)
[16:56] <eypal> in case here is somebody from Canonical Ltd please could you give a private message for me. I do have something business stuff in my mind, a kind of checking up one thing one your website. Have been trying to email you but haven't gotten reply. Thank you so much.
[16:57] <carli2> hi. in which package is /usr/include/bits/predefs.h?
[16:57] <apporc> I found that the same file has two names from ntfsundelete .So what's the reason.
[16:57] <CatKiller> Hi there! I have two Network Interfaces. One is configured as dhcp and the other one as static in /etc/network/interfaces. It all works pretty well except that every half an hour the DHCP client kicks in for *both* interfaces and updates the route and the IP address of the static iface. I have to ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 to reload its static address and route settings. Does anybody know why?
[16:58] <glebihan> !find /usr/include/bits/predefs.h | carli2
[16:58] <apporc> It just has filename(1) and filename(2). how to recover this ...
[16:58] <apporc> Can anyone help?
[16:58] <soreau> glebihan: nice
[16:58] <soreau> I didnt know ubottu had that feature
[16:58] <CatKiller> I also have the "configure this interface automatically" tickbox unticked for both interfaces in preferences/network connections
[16:58] <glebihan> soreau, ubottu is so good ;)
[16:59] <vak> soreau: YES
[16:59] <angel56> CatKiller: check if the static interface is also defined in /etc/network/interfaces. If so, comment it out
[16:59] <soreau> vak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning#Blu-Ray_Burning
[17:00] <CatKiller> angel56: It is defined, I defined it there.
[17:00] <alkafoo> carli2: check with apt-file
[17:00] <angel56> CatKiller: are you also using network mangler?
[17:00] <CatKiller> angel56: I hate the thing, I'm not using it
[17:00] <vak> soreau: thx
[17:00] <soreau> vak: Seems like its the same as burning a regular image to disk.. look into k3b and wodim too
[17:00] <CatKiller> angel56: Just used it to untick these two boxes
[17:00] <angel56> CatKiller: ok....takes care of that problem
[17:01] <CatKiller> trying to find dhclient.conf
[17:01] <CatKiller> but the manpage doesn't reference its location
[17:01] <soreau> !find dhclient.conf
[17:01] <angel56> CatKiller: /etc/dhcp
[17:01] <chmrr> I'm one of the upstream maintainers of https://launchpad.net/rt/ -- https://launchpad.net/rt/+packages shows that request-tracker3.8 packages list rt/4.0 as upstream, instead of rt/3.8  What's the right way to fix this on launchpad, as I don't seem to have rights to change them myself?
[17:01] <burg> if i use skel to create new folder, can i somehow also set permissions to that folder?
[17:01] <CatKiller> angel56: Thanksa  lot!
[17:02] <soreau> chmrr: Perhaps try #ubuntu-devel
[17:02] <CatKiller> angel56: No luck, everything is commented out there.
[17:02] <KMDsadface> clonezilla is good for cloning hardrives?
[17:03] <CatKiller> angel56: I don't mind using the network manager, but it won't tell me which interface is eth0 and which is eth1!
[17:03] <angel56> CatKiller: can't help you with nm...I hate it and long ago went to wicd
[17:03] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: it'll do, but I'd just use dd
[17:03] <glebihan> chmrr, there's also a #launchpad channel
[17:03] <KMDsadface> alkafoo: whats DD?
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> CatKiller: sudo lshw -C network     will
[17:03] <CatKiller> angel56: wicd? I'd have to try
[17:03] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: of course, there's not much point cloning an entire drive unless it's a proprietary OS
[17:03] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: man dd
[17:04] <soreau> CatKiller: Its probably NetworkManager being weird. I usually dont use it and do everything manually
[17:04] <CatKiller> soreau: I do everything manually but it interferes!
[17:04] <angel56> CatKiller: if you are comfortable with the config files, just take out nm and do the network manually
[17:04] <CatKiller> ActionParsnip: did it, won't map the ethX interface to "Wired connection X" found in Network Manager
[17:04] <CatKiller> angel56: I didn't know I could get rid of this package
[17:04] <soreau> CatKiller: If you already have it setup manually, chmod -x $(which NetworkManager) and reboot to stop it from running altogether
[17:05] <alkafoo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_%28Unix%29#Examples
[17:05] <chmrr> soreau, glebihan: Thanks, I'll try #launchpad
[17:05] <soreau> CatKiller: Its in /usr/sbin/ IIRC
[17:05] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: is it for a Windows install?
[17:05] <CatKiller> soreau: Arg, can't reboot this system however
[17:05] <genii-around> KMDsadface: Basically "DiscDupe" , you can use it to make an image file of an entire harddrive like: sudo dd if=/dev/<harddrive-designation-here> of=/outputfile/filename.img
[17:05] <soreau> CatKiller: Then just remove the executable bit and kill the process
[17:05] <angel56> CatKiller: you can do the chmod and then just kill the nm process
[17:05] <KMDsadface> alkafoo: Win7,Ubuntu, Backtrack5 R1
[17:05] <CatKiller> soreau: Although it must be a daemon running in the background
[17:05] <CatKiller> soreau: ok
[17:05] <KMDsadface> alkafoo: im trying to repair my windows, yes.
[17:06] <soreau> CatKiller: sudo service network-manager stop
[17:06] <soreau> CatKiller: Should stop it for that session
[17:06] <CatKiller> soreau: did kill, it's gione now
[17:06] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: repair?  What's broken?
[17:06] <CatKiller> cool, I only need that for that sessions
[17:06] <CatKiller> soreau and angel and everybody else: Thanks for your help!
[17:06] <CatKiller> We'll see if that takes
[17:06] <soreau> CatKiller: no problem
[17:06] <KMDsadface> alkafoo: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/91753173.png/
[17:07] <CatKiller> it's already faster!
[17:07] <KMDsadface> alkafoo: sda2 is reading as Unknown
[17:07] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: from Linux?
[17:07] <CatKiller> oops
[17:08] <CT1> Hi.  Where does fuse mount things? I've used the GUI to mount a windows share, I can see it on the desktop and use it fine, I need to know where the mount point is to use in command line interface.
[17:08] <KMDsadface> alkafoo: i cant even boot into win7, the mbr is screwed up aswell.
[17:08] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: hrmmm
[17:08] <angel56> CT1: usually in /media
[17:08] <alkafoo> CT1: not just fuse, but auto-mounts in general
[17:09] <alkafoo> CT1: 'mount' will tell you
[17:09] <KMDsadface> alkafoo: i was told i should back up my hardrive before i continue, which is very important because i need my data and cant afford to lose it.
[17:09] <CatKiller> even killing the NM didn't do. It had to be killed with the command above!
[17:09] <CatKiller> nasty thing this Network Manager
[17:09] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: well backups are good, but unless you suspect the hardware is failing, you could probably just proceed to the fixing part
[17:09] <CatKiller> It's to be avoided!
[17:09] <KMDsadface> genii-around: would dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb be correct?
[17:09] <angel56> CatKiller: which is probably why so many of us have left it behind
[17:09] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: for which I'd suggest consulting ##windows
[17:10] <CatKiller> angel56: I understand now. I kept thinking update after update that it would get better
[17:10] <ikonia> CatKiller: network manager is one of the best things about the gnome desktop, what's the issue with it ?
[17:10] <soreau> CatKiller: Thats why I said to remove the executable bit first.. if its killed, it will just restart itself
[17:10] <KMDsadface> alkafoo: yeah, i rather make 100% sure i have my stuff; id feel more safe.
[17:10] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: better of=some/path/to/a/file.ddimg
[17:10] <CT1> gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/me/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=me)
[17:10] <KMDsadface> genii-around: would dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb be correct?
[17:10] <angel56> CatKiller: it's called sns
[17:10] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: fair enough =)
[17:10] <soreau> CatKiller: But that means it wont run ever again until you set the bit back
[17:10] <KMDsadface> alkafoo: uhm, no idea what that means lol
[17:10] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: might check out http://mark.koli.ch/2009/05/howto-whole-disk-backups-with-dd-gzip-and-p7zip.html
[17:10] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: you don't have to copy it over another entire disk, you can output to a file
[17:11] <alkafoo> of=/home/kmdsadface/olddiskbroken.img
[17:11] <alkafoo> just make sure you have teh space
[17:11] <alkafoo> and the space
[17:11] <genii-around> KMDsadface: If you want to make an exact copy of sda onto sdb then yes. Be careful that sdb is same-size or larger. Also they will end up with same UUID after which is not so good if you plan to use them both in same system at same time.
[17:11] <gnaddel> Question: What is the reason to use UUIDs instead to /dev/???? in the fstab?
[17:11] <alkafoo> gnaddel: it's slightly more specific, matching filesystems, not hardware
[17:11] <aeon-ltd> genii-around: uuids don't change
[17:12] <alkafoo> gnaddel: I don't personally see the reason
[17:12] <angel56> gnaddel: it allows the system to use the same name for the same hard drive. If you have six usb drives, you can identify each by name
[17:12] <CatKiller> angel56: But it seems to be getting worse!
[17:12] <CatKiller> angel56: There was more configuration options with it before than there is now!
[17:12] <aeon-ltd> gnaddel: uuids don't change
[17:12] <aeon-ltd> genii-around: sorry about the message, my bad :(
[17:12] <genii-around> aeon-ltd: I think thats what I just stated. If you dd sda to sdb then it will be identical, including the UUID
[17:12] <alkafoo> it's the boring computer version of FS labels, which you can set to anything like 'weeepurpledrive'
[17:12] <angel56> CatKiller: that is supposed to be an 'ubuntu improvement'
[17:12] <genii-around> aeon-ltd: Ah, no worries
[17:12] <alkafoo> well it will be identical, that's all you have to say
[17:13] <angel56> CatKiller: probably why some of us are moving to debian, or something else
[17:13] <KMDsadface> genii-around: yes, i want to make an exact copy, the other hardrive is exactly the same size; so what can i do to prevent UUID.
[17:13] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: you don't have to worry about UUIDs
[17:13] <gnaddel> Related question: Why does my system still boot even though I have listed a wrong UUID in the fstab? (I moved my install to a larger hdd and didn't edit the fstab)
[17:13] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: and again, I suggest not copying to the other drive unless you mean to use _that_ drive regardless of whether you can fix the other
[17:13] <CT1> alkafoo: Thanks. I was looking in /media "mount" told me it was in ~/.gvfs/xxx.  Are you paid for your work? You always seem to be online and in possession of all the answers.... an advanced A.I. bot perhaps?  Keep it up and thanks again!
[17:13] <CatKiller> angel56: Yes, there has been disapointments with Ubuntu lately. I mean it didn't improve much, and now the move to Unity and stuff. This is a bit much.
[17:14] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: just of=/home/foo/somefile.img
[17:14] <alkafoo> CT1: does eye strain count?
[17:14] <KMDsadface> alkafoo: i have no idea what that means
[17:14] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: okay of= is for the output path
[17:14] <genii-around> KMDsadface: Is the filesystem ext2/3/4 or something else?
[17:14] <KMDsadface> alkafoo: i just want to make backup on a hardrive then attempt to repair one so it doesnt screw up and lose everything
[17:14] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: you're copying from /dev/sda (if=/dev/sda, input file)
[17:15] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: right
[17:15] <KMDsadface> right
[17:15] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: so dd if=/dev/foo of=/home/example/directory/path/anyfilenameyouwant.img
[17:15] <alkafoo> it's not worth cloning _over_ another disk, it's much saner to store as a simple file
[17:16] <alkafoo> and heads up it'll probably take several hours unless the disk is quite minute
[17:17] <KMDsadface> well now im just confused as SH**
[17:17] <ikonia> KMDsadface: if you have to star out a word, don't use it please.
[17:17] <KMDsadface> alkafoo: i just want to repair my windows without worrying about losing the data that's all.
[17:18] <soreau> KMDsadface: FWIW, of means output file and if means input file
[17:18] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: I know, I know
[17:18] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: what part are you confused about?
[17:18] <soreau> In the context of dd
[17:19] <KMDsadface> alkafoo: i understand the if/of, but you're saying its not worth cloning the entire disk?; is it possible if i try to repair my win7 that it can ruin my other partitions aswell?
[17:19] <soreau> and FWIW means For What Its Worth ;)
[17:20] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: no I'm saying it's not worth copying one disk's data _over_ another disk's
[17:20] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: instead you should copy one disk's data _to a file_
[17:20] <alkafoo> it's the difference between [A] -> [B] and [A] -> [B]/somefile.img
[17:21] <alkafoo> in this situation, anyways, there are times when it's a decent enough enterprise
[17:23] <KMDsadface> alkafoo: yeah im not really comfortable in following that 10step thing from that website, i already tried following a guide earlier and i believe thats what damaged it even more.
[17:24]  * alkafoo shrugs
[17:24] <alkafoo> what is it you think you did that damaged it more?
[17:24] <yacc> Wondering, anyone got an idea why a SATA3 SSD is switched into SATA1 mode by the kernel, while it keeps 3 normal hdds on the same SATA controller in SATA2 mode?
[17:24] <KMDsadface> mbeierl: you still here?
[17:25] <t60guy> Hello, I had a question. I bought a refurbished T60 laptop a few weeks ago, got it and put ubuntu 10.04 on it. I used Gnome for quite a while, and then switched to awesome wm and started using wicd for network management (wireless). Everything worked perfectly for a few weeks, until a few days ago. I woke up and found that I couldn't connect to my home network, I could see it and a few other networks nearby, and I could begin 
[17:25] <grendal-prime> i need to take an image and add highlighter marks on it..
[17:25] <KMDsadface> alkafoo: honestly no idea, its been like 2 weeks since i attempted it.
[17:25] <grendal-prime> am i going full gimp for that?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> yacc: I'd reboot then read through:  dmesg | less    to see what's going on
[17:27] <KMDsadface> alkafoo: it first started i think when i removed WinXP when i had Win7 and Ubuntu on a tri-boot, the mbr wasn't allowing me to load up into win7 so i got ticked off and tried to find it out then between that and something else the file ended up being uknown and i ended up installing backtrack5 R1 aswell.
[17:28] <KMDsadface> alkafoo: so somewhere between that jungle of mess something happend.
[17:28] <asp> how to connect to wireless connection with channel 13 , because UBUNTU default can connect to 1-11 channels
[17:29] <nicofs> How can I burn a VCD? It's quite urgent and brasero crashes converting the files (apart from that i can't choose between VCD and DVD - it's all just "video disc")...
[17:29] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: I guess what you'd hope for is that you merely confused the partition table
[17:29] <alkafoo> nicofs: urgent?
[17:30] <nicofs> alkafoo, i need the vcd more or less yesterday
[17:30] <KMDsadface> alkafoo: okay so... what should i do? lol
[17:30] <alkafoo> nicofs: http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/HOWTO_Create_a_VCD_or_SVCD#Create_an_SVCD should still work
[17:30] <alkafoo> nicofs: but I'd use a USB stick =P
[17:31] <alkafoo> KMDsadface: talk to ##windows or ##linux about fixing your partition table/determining if it can be fixed
[17:31] <Pici> nicofs: I believe  devede has that capability.
[17:31] <alkafoo> would've been easier had you remembered what you did in the first place
[17:31] <KMDsadface> kk
[17:32] <nicofs> Pici, supposedly so has brasero - but it crashes.... :-(
[17:32] <tbruff13> hello can someone help me
[17:33] <TheMatrix3000> Any issues that I should prepare for if I did an LVM on top a Software RAID configuration in Ubuntu
[17:34] <alkafoo> tbruff13: ...with?
[17:34] <tbruff13> get me a few minutes
[17:34] <nicofs> alkafoo, to be honest, i'm not too thrilled about creating a vcd via cli...
[17:34] <asp> how to connect to wireless connection with channel 13 , because UBUNTU default can connect to 1-11 channels
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: try xfburn :)
[17:34] <alkafoo> nicofs: at least you know what is going on and get an error if it fails
[17:35] <mbeierl> KMDsadface: sorry - back now... just reading the scroll back to see what has gone on...
[17:35] <alkafoo> not that it should fail, no complicated GUI to trip over
[17:35] <InfoLoco> Greetings!! Somebody help me with this -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11275724#post11275724 I appreciate
[17:35] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, xfburn does not have a vcd option
[17:36] <mbeierl> KMDsadface: so what I was thinking was to back up sda2 only as it's the one that is having the problem.  it's done via dd as follows: "dd if=/dev/sda2 of=partition_2.dat" or whatever you want to call the partition_2.dat file...
[17:37] <alkafoo> nicofs: it's three commands man =P
[17:37] <alkafoo> I guess you could try VCD, but do you really want to learn a new GUI when you needed something yesterday and you're only three commands away from having it?
[17:37] <alkafoo> could try tovid*
[17:37] <jstew> trying to change the default browser that thunderbird uses to open a web page. my default browser in System->Preferences->Preferred Applications is set to Chrome, but tbird keeps opening up pages in Firefox...
[17:38] <jstew> i'm on ubuntu 11.04
[17:38] <alkafoo> jstew: why do you even have two browsers installed
[17:39] <nicofs> alkafoo, basically it's that i expect ubuntu to be able to do that without issues... burning a vcd should work out of the box...
[17:39] <SIFTU> jstew: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Setting_Your_Default_Browser#Setting_the_browser_that_opens_in_Thunderbird_-_Linux
[17:39] <shanttu> Hi. Is there a workaround to get gsm-network/ mobile broadband connection to show on gnome network-manager? Running Natty
[17:39] <jstew> alkafoo: for testing in multiple browsers
[17:39] <jstew> SIFTU: thx
[17:39] <Ocean66> Hi. Could someone give me directions on how to implement a bug fix that has been released (here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/779798), please? I am a noob and have no idea at where to even find the fix itself. I am running Natty.
[17:39] <alkafoo> nicofs: transcoding, imaging, and burning for video media is an incredibly complex process on any OS
[17:39] <alkafoo> nicofs: that's why I suggest copying to a USB stick, it's simple
[17:40] <nicofs> alkafoo, yes, i know - but if a program offers the option "burn vcd" that option should work. and i can't put a usb stick into the old-fashioned vcd player
[17:41] <alkafoo> I agree it should work, but you aren't going to get anywhere saying that =P
[17:41] <nicofs> alkafoo, no, but i think i might file a bug or something as soon as my schedule is not as tight as now
[17:41] <alkafoo> Ocean66: 'This bug was fixed in the package libreoffice - 1:3.4.3-1ubuntu3' you want to get that version
[17:42] <alkafoo> mmhmmm
[17:42] <Marsha> hello
[17:42] <alkafoo> Marsha: hi
[17:42] <Marsha> hru
[17:43] <Ocean66> alkafoo : so it will not automatically be included in the update packages the update manager gets? Sorry if my question is obvious and thanks for answering!
[17:43] <alkafoo> yes, hru
[17:43] <alkafoo> Ocean66: it should be, I don't know if it has been _already_, but given that quoted statement, it exists _somewhere_
[17:43] <alkafoo> might check packages.ubuntu.com for it
[17:43] <alkafoo> if you can't find it elsewhere
[17:44] <Ocean66> alkafoo : I tried updatding with the manager to no avail... how else can i get it?
[17:44] <Ocean66> OK just saw your added comment, will check, thanks !!!
[17:44] <alkafoo> I just said
[17:44] <alkafoo> =)
[17:46] <Loki_> can anyone tell me how to prevent ubuntu 10.10 from loading X server and services wich are not necessary for tty? i want to speed up system boot and manually start the rest of the system like x-server and extra services if needed :)
[17:47] <h00k> !text | Loki_
[17:47] <hroberts> I need some help woth printing and cups
[17:47] <hroberts> I am running ubuntu narwall, when I go into system administration printing
[17:47] <Marsha> !ops
[17:48] <Pici> Marsha: Yes?
[17:48] <h00k> Marsha: hrm?
[17:48] <hroberts> i am told to connect, when I click connect it says unable to connect to server
[17:49] <hroberts> How can I fix this, I have done sudo apt-get remove cups and then install cups, same thing
[17:49] <root> ls
[17:49] <Loki_> h00k is starting the same tty's like when i press ctrl+alt+fx and most of the rest of the system? and can i use "startx" then to boot the rest?
[17:50] <adi11> hi all :) need help with ubuntu 11.04 on hp pavillion dv 7600. after fresh install from USB pendrive... after shoosing ubtunu on the grub screen, it freezes on a purple screen. hard shutdown button is all i can do. i can use a little help to identify the issue. thanks anyone
[17:50] <agraj> @MAAAAD could be a graphics issue - try recovery mode and choose failsafe graphics
[17:51] <h00k> !rootirc | Guest17878
[17:51] <h00k> Loki_: sure
[17:51] <h00k> Loki_: check the documentation, it should help explain that, too
[17:52] <adi11> i am on 2.6.38.11 kenrel. this laptop have a nvidia card but i havent installed the proprietary driver. i guess its working on open soiurce driver
[17:52] <Loki_> h00k thanks alot, i was confused how to manage this because of the new annoying upstart -.-
[17:52] <agraj> when's 11.10b2 coming?
[17:53] <adi11> anyone...?
[17:53] <hroberts> can someone help me with this, or point me to a channel that can
[17:53] <h00k> agraj: #ubuntu+1 for Oneiric support/discussion
[17:53] <Pici> agraj: When its done.  Feel free to wait in #ubuntu+1
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> agraj: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[17:53] <chotaz> HEy everyone, I installed Ubuntu 11.04 over winblows 7 on this machines, but whenever I try to boot the pc, I get a grub rescue console, is there a way to fix this via Live CD_
[17:53] <agraj> ok, thanks
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> adi11: use the additional drivers app
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> adi11: I suggest you get fully updated first then reboot
[17:53] <alkafoo> chotaz: it says 'rescue console'?
[17:54] <adi11> i did.
[17:54] <stercor> Is there a way to make a beep sound?  I installed beep from Synaptic.  It doesn't work.
[17:54] <hroberts> can someone help me with this, or point me to a channel that can
[17:54] <adi11> ActionParsnip : i have fully updated the sys
[17:54] <Marsha> how can i help you my friend
[17:54] <hroberts> can someone help me with this issue concerning cups, or point me to a channel that can
[17:54] <alkafoo> hroberts: with what
[17:54] <chotaz> has an error message I can-t recall right now(just got back from work and booted live CD) and then 'grub rescue>', alkafoo
[17:54] <bekor> have a question for someone
[17:55] <hroberts> cups keeps telling me that it cant connect ot itself, how can I completely reset it
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> adi11: ok then use the additional drivers app
[17:55] <h00k> bekor: go ahead and ask it to the channel
[17:55] <alkafoo> chotaz: error messages are usually useful to know...
[17:55] <adi11> ActionParsnip : the only way i managed to log in is to choose system recovery on grub screen
[17:55] <share> how can I invert an image on Ubuntu
[17:55] <chotaz> alkafoo, is something amongst the lines 'coulnt find boot file' or 'boot file corrupted'
[17:56] <share> or reverse I want to rotate  it
[17:56] <alkafoo> share: install imagemagick, mogrify -flip image
[17:56] <alkafoo> share: ...do what?
[17:56] <bekor> ok i  just installed windows xp and trying to install ubuntu along side of but it says that i do not have an operarting system on my computer,weird to me. any suggestions?
[17:56] <adi11> after some output on black screen i see a lot of "ata problems" than i give a EXIT command it logs into full GUI
[17:56] <alkafoo> bekor: what says?
[17:57] <adi11> ActionParsnip : i cant figured out if this is a nvidia issue or a hdd isue
[17:57] <bekor> it says your computer does not seem to have a operating system on it ,but it does
[17:57] <share> alkafoo: i dont want to do that
[17:57] <alkafoo> bekor: ..._what_ says?
[17:57] <share> alkafoo: I want to reverse image
[17:57] <share> change left side to the right
[17:57] <bekor> what do you mean
[17:58] <alkafoo> bekor: the BIOS?
[17:58] <alkafoo> bekor: when you boot up?
[17:58] <alkafoo> share: mogrify -flop image
[17:58] <bekor> you mean when i try to install?
[17:58] <bonbon_> Bonjour !
[17:58] <alkafoo> bekor: if you can't boot Windows XP, it wasn't installed right, try again
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> adi11: add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1    may help
[17:58] <alkafoo> bonbon_: hi
[17:58] <fireprint> Hey guys.
[17:58] <alkafoo> hey
[17:58] <bekor> but windows xp boots up fine
[17:59] <alkafoo> bekor: okay, so what doesn't boot up fine?
[17:59] <adi11> ActionParsnip : can you tell me how to do this?
[17:59] <share> alkafoo: thank you!
[17:59] <chotaz> alkafoo, should I restart and take a look at the message again?
[17:59] <kilrae> Any news on when Beta 2 is out?
[17:59] <bekor> i ca n not install ubuntu next to it because it does not see it
[17:59] <h00k> kilrae: #ubuntu+1 for Oneiric discussion.
[18:00] <kilrae> h00k: np, thanks
[18:00] <hroberts> so no one can help with a cups issue?
[18:00] <jimbozone> Hi, can someone please help me get my lcd monitor running at its native resolution?  I used to have it at 1600x1200 (native).  Then went to dual-screen (had to reduce to 2nd monitor's resolution) now I've removed the 2nd monitor and am back to 1.  But in Monitor Preferences the native resolution of 1600x1200 is not in the list.
[18:00] <bonbon_> someone speaks French please
[18:00] <bonbon_> ,
[18:00] <bonbon_> ?
[18:00] <h00k> !fr | bonbon_
[18:00] <alkafoo> bekor: it sees XP but not Ubuntu?
[18:00] <alkafoo> bonbon_: and more generally: /msg alis list *fr
[18:00] <bonbon_> thanks
[18:00] <fireprint> Have been away from *nix for.. well lets just say a long time. And wow, i am LOVING ubuntu. ended up installing it on three computers including my main laptop. This is weird how awesome it is...
[18:00] <fireprint> Just felt like sharing. hehe
[18:00] <alkafoo> fireprint: =P
[18:01] <Marsha> fireprint, nobody cares
[18:01] <fireprint> I know!.. but atleast i got to share. THAT was my goal.
[18:01] <bekor> no it does not see xp when i go to install it says your computer does not seem do have a operating system on it.do you want to install ubuntu?
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | adi11 just change the option to nouveau.blacklist=1
[18:01] <pimp> how to connect to wireless with channel 13 ?
[18:02] <hroberts> so no one can help with a cups issue?, or point me to a channel that can help, I have tried ##cups but no one answers there
[18:02] <alkafoo> bekor: like I said, if you install Windows XP and Windows XP won't boot up, it wasn't installed right
[18:02] <Marsha> are cups for drinking
[18:02] <hroberts> Marsha: very funny
[18:02] <chotaz> alkafoo, should I restart and check the error, or is there a way to know it from live cd?
[18:02] <hroberts> CUPS
[18:02] <bekor> well it does boot up and works fine
[18:02] <Marsha> LOL GET IT
[18:02] <alkafoo> chotaz: dunno, errors are useful
[18:03] <alkafoo> bekor: you just said it doesn't, make up your mind
[18:03] <adi11> ActionParsnip : thanks for your advise. can you giude me a little ho to do this? thank you again.
[18:03] <chotaz> alkafoo, brb then.
[18:03] <jimbozone> anyone able to help with my monitor resolution problem?
[18:03] <alkafoo> jimbozone: which problem?
[18:03] <jimbozone> I can't get 1600x1200 in the Resolution list
[18:04] <jimbozone> that's the native res of my monitor
[18:04] <mbeierl> Hey!  speaking of monitor preferences ... does anyone know how to add a custom monitor size to the list?  I'd like to be able to set a resolution of 1366x768
[18:04] <alkafoo> jimbozone: what graphics driver are you using?
[18:04] <jimbozone> I have a radeon hd card
[18:04] <alkafoo> mbeierl: xrandr doesn't list it?
[18:04] <alkafoo> jimbozone: and what driver are you using? lspci -k | less
[18:05] <jimbozone> fglrx_pci
[18:05] <mbeierl> alkafoo: nope.  it just gives me the native 1920x1080, then 1280x1024, 1152x864, 1024x768 and lower.
[18:05] <leeping> Hi there, does it make sense for me to use classes whenever I need a struct?  For some reason it feels like I'm using a very general tool to accomplish a very small task
[18:06] <angel56> leeping: sounds more like a #C question
[18:06] <leeping> angel56, ah i thought i was in #python.  so sorry. :)
[18:06] <mbeierl> alkafoo: I'd like to insert the custom 1366x768 into the list so that when I connect remotely (via nxclient on a shadow session) I can set the monitor resolution to match the remote machine without scaling
[18:06]  * alkafoo forgets if xrandr -s RANDOMxFOO works
[18:06] <pimp>  how to connect to wireless with channel 13  ? because UBUNTU allow just from 1-11 channel by default
[18:07] <alkafoo> mbeierl: check if you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:07] <jimbozone> alkafoo:  xrandr -s 1600x1200
[18:07] <jimbozone> Size 1600x1200 not found in available modes
[18:07] <Psycho_Squid> #pimp is that really true?
[18:07] <pimp> yes
[18:07] <Psycho_Squid> weird :(
[18:08] <sammy> I'm running ubuntu on a chromebook, so I'm using the chromeos' linux kernel. I'm noticing the kernel version I'm using doesn't match the installed linux-libc-dev version, but there isn't a package available to install for a version that far back (2.6.28.3+). so I probably shouldn't be building anything that uses the kernel header files, right? I mean its only slightly minor versins but...
[18:08] <angel56> pimp:channels above 11 are international, not US
[18:08] <mbeierl> alkafoo: no xorg.conf and xrandr won't allow me to force that resolution
[18:08] <alkafoo> jimbozone: sorry don't know: http://www.google.com/search?q=radeon%20fglrx%20resolution%20site%3Aubuntuforums.org
[18:08] <pimp> angel56:  but what to do to connect to my wireless with channel 13 ?
[18:08] <h00k> sammy: can you lsb_release -a for me?
[18:09] <alkafoo> sammy: why not use Ubuntu's kernel?
[18:09] <fireprint> pimp: i believe hak5 has an entire epi on channels. If you want a quick and easy look into it.
[18:09] <pimp> I'm  from EU , and here is legal that channel
[18:09] <jimbozone> alkafoo: thanks
[18:09] <h00k> pimp: perhaps the hardware doesn't support it
[18:09] <nuclearworm> hello, inputting two directions on dns servers is better than just one?
[18:09] <me-1> hi what is this error ...http://picpaste.com/Image0022-UGtCS6gB.jpg
[18:09] <alkafoo> mbeierl: check that link I sent to jimbo ^
[18:09] <adi11> ActionParsnip : this output from tty1. (-Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline)after some more output like this i give "exit" command and than it send me to some menu where i choose "startx". after that it beautifully uploads the GUI gnome, no unity.
[18:09] <pimp> in windows XP works perfect the same hardware
[18:10] <h00k> nuclearworm: what does that mean?
[18:10] <h00k> pimp: what hardware is it?
[18:11] <sammy> alkafoo: to use the chromebook in a dualboot, the chromeos loader by default only loads google signed kernel images. to use ubuntu's kernel would mean disabling the ability to dual-boot. its possible, iirc
[18:11] <angel56> pimp: I suspect it is more a driver/module issue. The modules for that wifi card have probably not yet implemented EU support
[18:11] <adi11> ActionParsnip: how to find out what driver is nvidia using now that i am on GUI?
[18:11] <alkafoo> sammy: ...why are you dual booting
[18:11] <kilrae> so i got myself a new hard drive and i want to use the whole thing, i seem to have two choices: (1) partition table (MBR) with one partition, (2) unpartitioned, is there any reason to choose one over the other?
[18:11] <pimp> h00k:  x-micro wlan card
[18:12] <alkafoo> adi11: jump through a million menu items, or run sudo lspci -k | less
[18:12] <burg> how can i give write permissions only to one user?
[18:12] <pimp> angel56:  Not it isn't issue of hardware , but the channels above 11 are ilegal in US so are disabled by default on Ubuntu
[18:13] <angel56> burg: make him owner of the file and only allow write by the owner
[18:13] <angel56> pimp: that's what I said
[18:13] <sammy> alkafoo: its not my chromebook :) but thats a good question. because other than a lack of hard drive space, I didnt think there were any glaring issues. OH also because I believe some of the hardware, don't you have to boot into chromeos first, then restart (not power off) the machine, and then reboot into ubuntu so the hardware is initialized? I think the 3g modem might require such tomfoolery
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> adi11: sudo lshw -C display | grep driver
[18:13] <pimp> angel56:  but why in windows XP works
[18:13] <sammy> alkafoo: but I could be wrong.
[18:13] <angel56> pimp:I suspect you have european drivers for winxp
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> adi11: nouveau|nv = open driver     nvidia=proprietary
[18:14] <adi11> alkafoo : thanks. OMG ridiculous. how to type that vertical line on keyboard.
[18:14] <sammy> kilrae: Id use a parition table. makes it easier to make changes later, if you ever wanted to.
[18:14] <pimp> angel56:  but i think there is an option to change that  , they thought even for EU
[18:14] <sammy> kilrae: though I will admit I didnt know unpartitioned was an option
[18:15] <sulumar> Hi
[18:15] <SIFTU> ActionParsnip: adi11 its probably optimus
[18:15] <sulumar> Can anyone Help me with a bilbee setup
[18:15] <angel56> pimp: well, you have access to the source code for the module; change it to support european channels
[18:15] <usr13> adi11: On most keboards it's upper-case \
[18:15] <sulumar> i cant find any accurate info
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> SIFTU: very likely. I hate that thing, so annoying
[18:15] <alkafoo> sammy: it's just a Linux distro, pick the one you want and use just it
[18:15] <SIFTU> ActionParsnip: tell me about it
[18:15] <pimp> but where to find that module , in which folder
[18:15] <in0cula> hi!, in my laptop with ubuntu 11.04 i put the brightness at the minimum, but still too shine for me, it there a way to decrease the brightness even more? thx
[18:16] <sammy> kilrae: I also would suggest looking into separating certain directories into their own partition, like /usr or /var or /home. its good practice in case something goes horribly wrong
[18:16] <SIFTU> adi11: also run the following "lspci|grep -i VGA"
[18:16] <alkafoo> in0cula: xgamma
[18:16] <angel56> pimp: in the kernel source packages
[18:16] <kilrae> sammy, neither did i, just saw it today, i can't seem to find any information on it
[18:16] <alkafoo> in0cula: but you might like xcalib -i -a even more
[18:16] <SIFTU> adi11: and tell me how many lines there are
[18:16] <pimp> what the exact name of wifi modul ?
[18:16] <Psycho_Squid> #pimp only for info. don't do it if you are not sure what you are doing. :) http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=43351
[18:16] <adi11> thanks guys. my nvidia driver now running is "nouveau"
[18:17] <sammy> alkafoo: as I said, I think I need chromeos to be able to initialize the 3g modem, or Id lose that functionality completely in ubuntu. but I need to do more research.
[18:17] <alkafoo> adi11: that's the open source one
[18:17] <Aric> Does Ubuntu 11.04 run natively on ARM processors? (I want to put Ubuntu on an Asus Eee Pad, Transformer ... also curious about any information on driver compatibility with the Tegra 2 chipset, the proprietary keyboard dock on it etc and where I can get more details since some of my searches have been in vain
[18:17] <Psycho_Squid> the guide is not even also not for your hardware
[18:17] <alkafoo> sammy: that's incredibly unlikely
[18:17] <Psycho_Squid> not even for your hardware*
[18:18] <pimp> what do you think is the solution ?
[18:18] <adi11> SIFTU : 00:12.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C67 [GeForce 7150M / nForce 630M] (rev a2)
[18:18] <alkafoo> sammy: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Devices if you want to know for sure
[18:19] <D_Russ> hello
[18:19] <Psycho_Squid> #in0cula is your GPU from nVidia?
[18:19] <D_Russ> how is everyone
[18:19] <SIFTU> adi11: ok, and thats the only line
[18:19] <sammy> alkafoo: I know it was definitely that way six months ago, but it may have changed since. the cr-48 is quite weird with its hardware. sometimes if it falls asleep, you have to reboot the machine to get all your hardware functionality back, ie xbacklight starts to report that nothing installed supports backlight control. its odd.
[18:19] <alkafoo> sammy: but in all likelihood, as with everything else Google does, they took an open source driver and hardware known to work with it
[18:19] <sammy> alkafoo: and then tweaked it, like they do :P
[18:19] <alkafoo> sammy: that doesn't necessarily mean the drivers are not open source =P
[18:19] <h00k> sammy: you can probably see if there's a chromebook or chromeium os channel and talk with them about it
[18:19] <alkafoo> sammy: Google may have even _added_ the bugs
[18:20] <alkafoo> like they do
[18:20] <dr_willis> 'extra undocumented features' :)
[18:20] <sammy> h00k: good call. im sure there is. my original question was about finding older versions of libc headers. but there's no such repository of old packages lying about, right?
[18:20] <alkafoo> there usually is
[18:20] <angel56> pimp: if you really need that channel, you might blacklist the wifi module you are using, install ndiswrapper, and try using the winxp driver you say works
[18:21] <alkafoo> seems like a waste of time, though, for dual booting two Linux distros
[18:21] <fireprint> doh.. totally forgot my nickreg pwd..
[18:21] <adi11> SIFTU : yes. only one
[18:21] <alkafoo> fireprint: did you forget your nickreg email?
[18:21] <fireprint> nope
[18:21] <SIFTU> adi11: ok, well then thats good
[18:21] <alkafoo> then you're good =P
[18:21] <Psycho_Squid> #pimp either hack the ROM for your Wi-Fi card to force EU-region or try to find another driver. as you say it works with Windows XP. so the channels is not disabled by hardware. well, maybe the driver can unlock but not sure in your case
[18:21] <sammy> alkafoo: all I remember is that using the 3g modem in anything other than chromeos required booting into chromeos, initializing the modem, and then rebooting the machine. as i said, I'm hoping this has changed since, but I stopped looking into it. if I can find an older version of linux-libc-dev I can push it back to my current kernel version, along with the headers for module building, which are also a few versions too new.
[18:21] <fireprint> oh. sweet.
[18:21] <in0cula> no it is ATI
[18:21] <in0cula> ati 5470
[18:22] <adi11> SIFTU : you think i should install the nvidia proprietary driver?
[18:22] <alkafoo> adi11: if you aren't happy with nouveau
[18:22] <Jargonn> Hi!
[18:23] <alkafoo> Jargonn: hi
[18:23] <Psycho_Squid> #in0cula I use smartdimmer for nVidia. maybe there is a similiar tool
[18:23] <Jargonn> How can I burn .dmg files?
[18:23] <adi11> the problem is that i tried on that driver too. it didnt do much. still hang s on after grub page
[18:24] <fireprint> alkafoo i tried "help" but cant really get anything off of it. Any tip on where i should be looking?
[18:24] <Psycho_Squid> #Jargoon DMG contains a filesystem. Do you want to burn the filesystem and its content or just the plain DMG-file?
[18:25] <fireprint> nevermind alkafoo, i see you are busy helping people out. Ill google it. thanks tho
[18:25] <D_Russ> i am having an issue with restarting of natty, my mouse and keyboard. i have a belkin kvm switch installed (windows machine and ubuntu machine) 2 keyboards, 1 ps2 keyboard connected to the ubuntu (always works) and a usb mouse and keyboard connected to the belkin kvm switch. the problem is that the kvm KB & mouse does not work for atleast 3-5 minutes when i restart ubuntu. Anyone know of any...
[18:25] <D_Russ> ...solutions or experiencing the same thing?
[18:26] <adi11> guys i have 3 drivers available: Nvidia accelerated grapichs driver (version 173), Nvidia accelerated grapichs driver (version current) {reccomanded}, and Experimental 3d support for nvidia cards. which one?
[18:27] <Psycho_Squid> #adi11 the recommended one is working fine... at least on my box :)
[18:27] <adi11> Psycho_Squid : did u do somthing with boot option like "nomodeset" or anything else?
[18:28] <Jargonn> How can I burn .dmg files?
[18:28] <alkafoo> Jargonn: read up
[18:28] <adi11> Psycho_Squid : i cant bot normally on ubuntu. it hangs on the purple screen after grub page.
[18:28] <Psycho_Squid> #Jargoon maybe you can convert the DMG-file to ISO and then burn it
[18:29] <Psycho_Squid> #adi11 you sure it has to do with the nVidia driver?
[18:29] <Jargonn> Psycho_Squid: I would like to burn a mac os x loin dmg to a disk so I can install it
[18:30] <alkafoo> Jargonn: just copying it over should suffice
[18:30] <adi11> Psycho_Squid thats what some other people here think..
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Jargonn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManageDiscImages   mentions them
[18:30] <alkafoo> fireprint: ask #freenode if you can't figure it out
[18:31] <Psycho_Squid> #adi11 ok. is the system in a deadlock or can you press CTRL+ALT+F1?
[18:31] <D_Russ> i have tried unplugging and nothing works
[18:31] <in0cula> xgamma don't change brightness :((
[18:31] <in0cula> any idea on ati , i need less brightness
[18:31] <fireprint> ah ok, thanks alkafoo. Appreciated
[18:31] <Psycho_Squid> #Jargoon you can extract a DMG-file to a separate disk using the command dd. Is that what you want to do?
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Psycho_Squid: you do realize adding # to the start of nicks makes highlighting not work. This isn't twitter
[18:32] <adi11> Psycho_Squidafter grub page i choose ubuntu recovery and goes to tty. i live it like that for 5 min after all output i give command "exit". than it gives me the menu where i choose "startx"
[18:32] <alex_> exit
[18:33] <jasonlfunk> Is there a way I can tell which files a program is trying to open? It's simply telling me "No such file or directory" but doesn't say WHICH file doesn't exist.
[18:33] <adi11> Psycho_Squid : and this is how i log in to ubuntu. but once i log in GUI it runs smoothly and i love it.
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> #Psycho_Squid: see how this isn't highlighted
[18:33] <Psycho_Squid> Sorry ActoinParsnip. ages since I used IRC ;)
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> jasonlfunk: run it from terminal, may give clues
[18:34] <jasonlfunk> ActionParsnip: I am, it doesn't.
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Psycho_Squid: np
[18:34] <jwiggins> I am trying to install ubuntu 10.04 on a new PC. When I go to install to drive it does not see my primary hard drive. However the disk manager utility and dmesg both see the drive. The drive is a 1TB WD, any advice?
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Psycho_Squid: you can use tab to complete nicks too, faster
[18:35] <Psycho_Squid> but... in chatzilla (that I use) the nick is highlighted/bold :p
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> jasonlfunk: what is the command?
[18:35] <D_Russ> jwiggins whats on there now?
[18:35] <TheMatrix3000> ActionParsnip: that's kinda cool
[18:35] <zooka> TheMatrix3000: saves you a lot of typing
[18:36] <jwiggins> D_Russ, I cleared it, empty drive no partitions. I even tried added a 50GB partition via disk manager with ext4 and it still doesn't see it
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> jwiggins: does the drive detect in bios? Have you tried
[18:36] <TheMatrix3000> zooka: yes it does, i can't believe I have been using this stuff for over a year and still haven't known about that
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> jwiggins: tried natty live cd
[18:36] <jwiggins> ActionParsnip, yes, and I can mount it when I cancel the installation
[18:36] <offermann> where is germa ubuntu?
[18:36] <D_Russ> youmight have a bad burn on the disc
[18:36] <goto> Hello, does anyone know which metacity-theme this is: http://i.imgur.com/EArz1.png ?
[18:36] <offermann> gemrna
[18:36] <offermann> german
[18:36] <jasonlfunk> ActionParsnip: It's some non-public proprietary software…. I thought there might be a linux command that will print out system calls for file accesses.
[18:36] <jwiggins> ActionParsnip, I am installing from a USB drive
[18:37] <D_Russ> i spent 5 hours trying to install natty to find out the disc i burned it on was junk
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> TheMatrix3000: tab completion is cool, do you mean?
[18:37] <offermann> ubuntu-de
[18:37] <alkafoo> jwiggins: if you can setup partitions with gparted, try that
[18:37] <angel56> D_Russ: that is what md5sum is for
[18:37] <jwiggins> It sees the 500MB drive I have in there, so I removed it
[18:37] <offermann> help ! german ubuntu
[18:37] <jwiggins> alkafoo, when I did that it still didn't see the drive via installation
[18:38] <Pici> !de | offermann
[18:38] <D_Russ> i went through 6 blank discs. never buy tdk discs
[18:38] <Aric> Will Ubuntu 11.04 run natively on an Eee Pad Transformer?
[18:38] <alkafoo> jwiggins: time for a debootstrap, maybe
[18:38] <angel56> if I found six bad TDK disks I would start to suspect the drive
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> jwiggins: interesting. If you then partition the drive manually then rerun the installer is it ok? Did you update ubiqity before running the installer?
[18:39] <vikram> how to play .mp3 file via cmd line
[18:39] <D_Russ> #angel56 but the thing is that i purchased some maxells and it worked the first time
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> vikram: mplayer or vlc-nox
[18:39] <D_Russ> even an older 9.04 disc i had worked
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> D_Russ: md5 test the iso and burn as slowly as possible
[18:40] <D_Russ> its all working now
[18:41] <synackfin> how do I install 32-bit gilbc so I can run 32-bit apps? (on 64-bit ubuntu)
[18:41] <D_Russ> but like you said i know what to do now if any future problems
[18:41] <vikram> can i play it by redirecting it to any device ?
[18:42] <D_Russ> i just wish i could get this keyboard and mouse problem resolved
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> jwiggins: you can still update ubiquity in liveusb. Have you tried Natty
[18:42] <angel56> vikram: I use the 'play' command. It is part of a package, but I don't recall which package
[18:42] <angel56> vikram: it is part of 'sox'
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> vikram: it will use the configured sound device
[18:43] <synackfin> nevermind, found it:  apt-get install ia32-libs
[18:43] <synackfin> synackin
[18:43] <MTPrower> Hiya awesome fun peeps
[18:43] <MTPrower> I'm new to Linux, and I was hoping for some support in installing Kubuntu
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> aplay is in a default install too angel56 vikram
[18:44] <angel56> ActionParsnip: yeah, but sox installs so many neat toys <smile>
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> MTPrower: give some details and the channel will help if it can
[18:44] <Chotaz> I installed Ubuntu 11.04 over Win7(as in formatting the machines hdd and installing ubuntu after) and when I try to boot up the computer I get an error saying 'error : no such device :' and a long alphanumeric string after and below that an input line saying 'grub rescue>'
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Chotaz: you can boot livecd and reinstate grub from there.
[18:46] <MTPrower> ActionParsnip: I attempted installations last night and failed miserably. I have a CD and a flash drive. I prefer the flash drive. I have three partitions right now: System reserved, NTFS, 100 Mb, System, Primary; Storage, NTFS, 400 GB, Boot, Primary; and Linux, EXT3, 65 GB, None, Logical
[18:46] <MTPrower> ActionParsnip: I need to keep that 400 GB untouched
[18:48] <MTPrower> ...wow... enter and leave spam...
[18:48] <MTPrower> *enter-and-leave spam
[18:48] <Urchin> it seems that MTPrower didn't get the installer to run, from my talking to him
[18:48] <Urchin> I haven't installed ubuntu in a while
[18:48] <MTPrower> Urchin: lol hiya Urchin. I got the installer to run, but it failed without an error message
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> MTPrower: that's fine. Fixing grub doesn't touch NTFS.
[18:49] <MTPrower> Urchin: it got to a slideshow where it was supposed to be installing and played the slideshow, but did nothing else for 6+ hours
[18:49] <Hano> what is best irc-application for ubuntu?
[18:49] <MTPrower> ActionParsnip: what is Grub? I've heard of it
[18:49] <Urchin> Hano: try xchat
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> !grub
[18:50] <Ludipe> Hi!  I am using Xubuntu 11.4 and somehow my desktop manager wont work, where there should be icons there's just a big grey screen ( the tool bar works fine ) ; anyideas to solve it?
[18:50] <Xeneth> Hano: Preference
[18:50] <Urchin> Hano: or just use chatzilla as a firefox plugin, works everywhere
[18:50] <MTPrower> ubottu: does Grub install Kubuntu?
[18:50] <MTPrower> ...lol
[18:50] <alkafoo> Ludipe: make sure xfdesktop is running
[18:50] <Urchin> MTPrower: grub is the boot loader that boots the os
[18:51] <alkafoo> Ludipe: and make sure nautilus isn't
[18:51] <MTPrower> ActionParsnip: does Grub install Kubuntu or only Ubuntu?
[18:51] <Ludipe> alkafoo: ok, i am gonna check it
[18:51] <io> MTPrower: no. the user installs Kubuntu - grub boots it
[18:51] <MTPrower> io: yeah, I've been having trouble installing Kubuntu. Booting it isn't the problem. Yet.
[18:51] <Chotaz> ActionParsnip:  im currently on liveCD can you help me from here, I never dealt with grub.
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> MTPrower: it loads the kernel then the drives and such. The fact you use KDE instead of Gnome is moot
[18:52] <io> MTPrower: then why are you worrying about grub?
[18:52] <MTPrower> That reminds me. I want Linux on my hard drive, not on a live CD or USB
[18:52] <MTPrower> io: I was just asking what it was
[18:52] <io> MTPrower: you can use the live CD to install it to your hard drive
[18:53] <tarek_> hi there. I completely messed up my audio settings (worked quite fine, only had some a/v sync problems) and now I'd love to find a way to just remove all alsa, pulseaudio, gstreamer and whatnot stuff and add a clean setup of all of this from scratch. Is there a way to do this?
[18:53] <Xeneth> Is there a way to make Windows my default OS for my gaming machine?  I tried modifying the default line, but as sune as the kernal updates, it's undone.
[18:53] <Xeneth> This is in grub
[18:53] <sulumar>  /msg NickServ identify Karano00
[18:53] <alkafoo> Xeneth: you need to modify the custom config
[18:53] <MTPrower> io: If I have an EXT3 partition of 65 GB set apart for all Linux-related stuff, do I need to do anything else before I run the liveCD again?
[18:53] <io> tarek_: '$ apt-get purge ...'
[18:54] <alkafoo> Xeneth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2?action=show&redirect=GRUB2#Custom_Menu_Entries
[18:54] <alkafoo> MTPrower: shouldn't have even had to do that =)
[18:54] <vikram> can i put a game in grub ?
[18:54] <MTPrower> alkafoo: except for the fact that I can't afford to lose what's on my larger partition
[18:54] <io> MTPrower: requirements are outlined here, with a lot of other useful information regarding the install process: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[18:55] <alkafoo> MTPrower: right, but the installer doesn't just randomly delete stuff =)
[18:55] <BluesKaj> tarek_, alsa is the default driver for most audio cards , pulseaudio is redundant unless you use several audio sources simultaneously ...most likely if you have audio lag it's the [layer/source file's fault
[18:55] <MTPrower> io: I've seen those. I was asking more about actions to be taken
[18:55] <BluesKaj> player /source file
[18:56] <io> MTPrower: if you've read it then why are you asking what is required? it's clearly outlined here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#Ubuntu_Desktop_Edition
[18:56] <io> MTPrower: or do you want me to type what's on that page for you?
[18:56] <MTPrower> ...so if I'm booting a USB installation of Windows, I can just boot the compy with the USB in. I tried doing that with my liveUSB, but I'm not sure it worked...
[18:56] <sunice> vikram: grub would not boot a game alone.
[18:57] <MTPrower> io: ...look, I've read tons of pages. It's all a bunch of mess to me. Some people don't learn how things work through the same kind of teaching media as others
[18:57] <sunice> vikram: wouldn't have the enviroment variables to run it. It's for choosing and booting the OS.
[18:57] <vikram> or at least wallpaper ... ?
[18:57] <io> MTPrower: you're asking about requirements; those are the requirements. it couldn't be any simpler
[18:57] <tarek_> okay ... it's just that I messed around with everything, executed a whole lot of stuff I found in forums and tutorials etc. and now some things are worse than before (for example my speakers won't mute if I plug in my headphones)
[18:58] <tarek_> so. I now have purge. What do I do to "reset" all my audio stuff? (sry, I really not that experienced with this ^^)
[18:58] <D_Russ> anyone know anything about resolving some keyboard andmouse issues in natty?
[18:58] <Chotaz> ActionParsnip:  im currently on liveCD can you help me from here, I never dealt with grub.
[18:58] <MTPrower> io: I never once asked for hardware requirements here. I said I was having problems with installation. I definitely meet hardware requirements
[18:58] <mbeierl> why oh why... I cannot launch libre office anymore because it hangs compiz with 100% cpu usage as the startup banner reaches about 50% loaded...  restarting compiz gets me out of it, but I cannot find the libre office window anywhere... even though the soffice.bin process is still there
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> Chotaz: there are guides all over the web for it
[18:59] <sunice> MTPrower: during the install process ubuntu ask you where you wish to install. It then uses gparted to resize each partition according to what you choose. As long as you do not oversize the one you are installing ubuntu on you are golden.
[18:59] <alkafoo> D_Russ: issues?
[18:59] <io> MTPrower: you asked about requirements before booting the live CD
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: does it affect all users?
[18:59] <MTPrower> io: I asked about what I should do, not about what I need
[18:59] <sunice> mbeierl: have you killed the process?
[18:59] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: ?  I'm the only user on this system.
[18:59] <MTPrower> io: sorry if I miscommunicated
[18:59] <sec> hi
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: make a new user to test then...
[19:00] <mbeierl> sunice: yes, I killed it.  The soffice.bin that is
[19:00] <MTPrower> BRB awesome fun peeps. Gonna try installing Ubuntu again
[19:00] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: ah, ok
[19:00] <sec> somebody knows how add more desktop in ubuntu 11.04 with unity? only I've 4 desktops
[19:00] <Chotaz> ActionParsnip:  im not an expert with ubuntu or linux at all, I thought live help would get things done faster, but i-ll search around :) you said I need to reinstate grub?
[19:00] <sunice> mbeierl: then on re-launching it hung again.
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> Chotaz: nobody is born one either
[19:01] <MTPrower> ohwait, one more question that I asked but was not responded to yet: I have a USB stick with Kubuntu on it. How do I activate the installer? Can I just reboot my compy with the flash drive in it, or do I have to do something else?
[19:01] <bil21al> i m login from empathy in the freenode account but iit is asking a password my nick is reg but i dont remember the password so how can i et that password/.??
[19:01] <Chotaz> ActionParsnip:  got me there, I might have found something useful, I gonna try this and will be back later with a report
[19:01] <sunice> mbeierl: if case then have you tried looking at the process tree to see if it's a sup-process?
[19:01] <io> !usb | MTPrower
[19:02] <MTPrower> io: dude, I read all this stuff. It's confusing. People can explain things in person way better than any paper can. Trust me, I am an excellent teacher
[19:02] <Urchin> what sort of bot is ubottu?
[19:02] <D_Russ> #alkafoo	i am having an issue with restarting of natty, my mouse and keyboard. i have a belkin kvm switch installed (windows machine and ubuntu machine) 2 keyboards, 1 ps2 keyboard connected to the ubuntu (always works) and a usb mouse and keyboard connected to the belkin kvm switch. the problem is that the kvm KB & mouse does not work for atleast 3-5 minutes when i restart ubuntu
[19:03] <mbeierl> sunice: it's not soffice that hangs, it's that when it displays the start up banner, it causes compiz to hang with 100% cpu usage
[19:03] <in0cula> THX Psycho_Squid  THX
[19:03] <io> MTPrower: asking us to explain something that's already explained is lazy. read it, and ask specific questions on what you're unsure on
[19:03] <alkafoo> D_Russ: <- how you address someone on IRC if you want them to notice your message
[19:03] <sunice> mbeierl: sorry misread
[19:03] <MTPrower> io: also, this only explains creating a liveUSB with Linux, and says explicitly that you need Linux to create a liveUSB. That's bullcrap
[19:04] <D_Russ> ok sorry
[19:04] <alkafoo> D_Russ: and sorry but I never use kvms
[19:04] <io> MTPrower: please watch your language
[19:04] <Urchin> MTPrower: why can't you just boot off a cd?
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> ChotazAFK: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7
[19:04] <D_Russ> thanks anyhow
[19:04] <MTPrower> io: if you get offended at "bullcrap", then that's your fault. How it could possibly harm anyone is just beyond me
[19:05] <Max229> How do I watch TV on my Ubuntu box?  What do I need?
[19:05] <mbeierl> sunice: np.  I don't really understand what's going on with soffice/compiz interaction at this point, but thanks anyway
[19:05] <io> !tv | Max229
[19:05] <MTPrower> Urchin: I'm poor I have one CD left and no burning software. I'm afraid to waste it, especially since I seem to have messed up with my first liveCD
[19:06] <Urchin> MTPrower: what did you burn for the first live cd?
[19:06] <sunice> MTPrower: it's understandable that you have questions, but if you have not put in an effort to read the documentation, Linux users generally are not as happy to help. We(atleast me) are only in here to help others. Please do not get upset with people when they are only trying to help you along
[19:06] <paulus68> MtPrower use virtualbox to experiment
[19:06] <mzuverink> will 11.10 feature a unity based gnome 3 or a classsic gnome 3?
[19:06] <silvano> please  ubuntu br
[19:06] <Guest14189> virtual box problem usb support
[19:07] <io> !br | silvano
[19:07] <Guest14189> cant be solved
[19:07] <milko> Hi people!
[19:07] <MTPrower> sunice: I did read the documentation. There's a lot of conflicting information and a bunch of things I don't understand. I ain't getting upset, not even at io, even though he is a bit redundant...
[19:07] <milko> I'm trying to lunch ubuntu-one
[19:07] <LaWU> Hi Milko.
[19:07] <milko> and I'm getting this error:
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Guest14189: the closed source on does. The OSE doesn't
[19:07] <milko>   for with, objects in v.iteritems():
[19:07] <Guest14189> how can i get open source one?
[19:07] <milko> it is from this file:
[19:07] <milko> File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/zope/interface/adapter.py", line 201
[19:07] <urlin2u> mzuverink, unity 2d 3d stock gnome 3 s in the repos
[19:08] <urlin2u> is
[19:08] <sunice> Guest14189: visit Oracle site
[19:08] <Guest14189> ok
[19:08] <Guest14189> thankx
[19:08] <milko> somebody has some idea?
[19:08] <MTPrower> I'm gonna try to boot from USB again. I will probably be back. See ya
[19:08] <Guest14189> and one thing  stable version of 11.10 released ?
[19:08] <Guest14189> or when will?
[19:08] <sunice> MTPrower: good luck
[19:08] <MTPrower> sunice: thanks
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Guest14189: the open one is in the repo. The closed one is a different app and can be installed using the virtualbox ppa
[19:08] <mikamelonen> at least ubuntu's broadcom driver works, xp's is stuck
[19:09] <mzuverink> urlin2u, thanks
[19:09] <TheEvilPhoenix> Guest14189:  #ubuntu+1 for 11.10 questions
[19:09] <Guest14189> ok
[19:09] <paulus68> Guest14189: normally at the end of october
[19:09] <Guest14189> it is so good
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Guest14189: the one in oneiric will be the open one too.
[19:09] <Guest14189> i hope gnome3 wont breaks
[19:09] <Guest14189> also gdm screen is better
[19:09] <Guest14189> i love ubuntu:D
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Guest14189: works here
[19:10] <Guest14189> i hope i contribute to ubuntu
[19:10] <Guest14189> i will write some programmes
[19:10] <paulus68> is there a way to activate unity
[19:10] <Urchin> xdm+ratpoison=win
[19:10] <pikapika-> is it possible to install to and boot from a virtual disk(natively not a VM)?  I know windows 7 added support for their bootloader to boot .VHDs natively is there some way to do that with linux?  i don't care what format of virtual disk it is
[19:10] <Urchin> :P
[19:11] <Guest14189> paulus68: open terminal and write unity
[19:11] <Guest14189> or you can do it gconf-editor
[19:11] <alkafoo> pikapika-: what do you mean natively not a vm
[19:11] <Guest14189> but i dont remember the full path
[19:11] <alkafoo> pikapika-: you want to boot a guest from GRUB?
[19:11] <urlin2u> pikapika-, you kust asked the excat same question in #fedora please do not use multiple channels.
[19:11] <urlin2u> just/exact*
[19:12] <alkafoo> pikapika-: the simplest way would be to install to a partition with kvm/qemu, then you can just add another entry to GRUB for that partition
[19:12] <Psycho_Squid> pikapika: everything is possible but it takes some effort :)
[19:12] <Xeneth> alkafoo: sorry, I'm working.  I did that and it works, but it get's undone when it upgrades.  Looking for something that will not change.
[19:12] <pikapika-> urlin2u guess what, I'm an independant woman and I can ask whoever I want whatever I want and if you don't like that you can get in line buddy
[19:12] <alkafoo> coming at it from behind
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> pikapika-: i saw a guide so i'd say yes. Grub2 is a magical beast
[19:12] <alkafoo> Xeneth: the custom file? Should not be touched during upgrade
[19:13] <pikapika-> ActionParsnip yea that was for a product that costs 80+ dollars though i checked out that vboot
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> pikapika-: I've not done it myself
[19:13] <urlin2u> pikapika-, yes you can but the ops will ban you for an attitude and continuing to do this. :D
[19:13] <Xeneth> alkafoo: Where there was a kernal upgreade it did.
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> pikapika-: why. Grub2 is free...
[19:13] <Psycho_Squid> ActionParsnip: what about try to use features from Virtualbox in some fancy way?
[19:14] <c0mrade_> WriteLn.Console("Hello");
[19:14] <pikapika-> ActionParsnip from what i read vboot uses a modified grub2 and has not published the source for other people to implement the changes
[19:14] <alkafoo> Xeneth: then your system is malfunctioning
[19:15] <J11> is there anyway to unblock a hard rf-kill switch?
[19:15] <Guest14189> take care guyss
[19:15] <c0mrade_> How can a 6-stage pipeline be implemented? Through hardwired logical circuitry/gates or assembly/microcode?
[19:17] <TrevorBradley_> Hey folks.. .does anyone know if GoogleBot is Drupal aware, and starts hunting for /node/* urls even if they're not linked to?
[19:17] <J11> the laptop has a wifi sliderswitch(one that has a spring to go back in the same position)
[19:17] <Ludipe> Hi! I had a few issues with the desktop manager in xubuntu before, I solved it but xfdesktop doesnt start by itself so i have to run it from a terminal and if i close the terminal my user session ends
[19:17] <TrevorBradley_> I'm trying to track down how Google managed to get to certain URLs on my site...
[19:17] <J11> but it seems ubuntu doesn't respond to it
[19:17] <pikapika-> alkafoo what I'm trying to accomplish is booting from a file, windows uses .vhd because well thats microsoft's format for virtual disks but either way their bootloader boots the .vhd file as if it were a fully partitioned HD install, I'm trying to accomplish something like that with linux be it .iso or squashfs or whatever i just need some kind of guide to follow ;d
[19:17] <J11> so i hope there is another way other than opening the laptop
[19:17] <fu> rg
[19:18] <c0mrade_> Anyone heard what did Obama say about Palestine? Do you beleive this? He wants innocent people to die.
[19:18] <alkafoo> TrevorBradley_: from links
[19:18] <ikonia> c0mrade_: that's not for discussion in this channel please.
[19:18] <J11> rfkill list gives Hard blocked: yes
[19:18] <TrevorBradley_> alkafoo, is it possible that there aren't any links, but it still might be indexed??
[19:18] <alkafoo> pikapika-: what exactly does it get you?
[19:18] <c0mrade_> Oh my oh my.
[19:19] <alkafoo> TrevorBradley_: not unless someone personally submitted it
[19:19] <TrevorBradley_> e.g. Google finds /node/1234, and tries node/1235
[19:19] <ikonia> c0mrade_: thank you.
[19:19] <apanda> ahoi. does anyone know how to disable "autoplay" for removable media for pcmanfm?
[19:19] <c0mrade_> Oh dear.
[19:19] <Ludipe> Hi! I had a few issues with the desktop manager in xubuntu before, I solved it but xfdesktop doesnt start by itself so i have to run it from a terminal and if i close the terminal my user session ends, how do i make xfdesktop autoexecute?
[19:19] <alkafoo> TrevorBradley_: I'm not aware of any behavior such as that
[19:19] <TrevorBradley_> I'm trying to find referring sites for these links and coming up blank, alkafoo... I'll keep looking then.
[19:19] <alkafoo> TrevorBradley_: it wouldn't surprise me if they check 1235, but I doubt they'd list it
[19:19] <c0mrade_> You must say: "STOP THAT YOU BA*****, DON'T SAY ANYTHING OFFTOPIC!!!"
[19:19] <alkafoo> TrevorBradley_: might ask #web
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> pikapika-: http://reboot.pro/11060/
[19:20]  * TrevorBradley_ goes off to puzzle and check logs.
[19:20] <TrevorBradley_> thanks.
[19:20] <grzegorz> hello
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: not as quick as you used to be ;-)
[19:20] <alkafoo> pikapika-: if you use kvm, there's no need for a VHD, you can use an ordinary hard disk partition, virtualized
[19:20] <TrevorBradley_> Crap I though I was in #drupal, sorry folks!
[19:20] <alkafoo> grzegorz: hi
[19:21] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: chanserv was slow, sorry. I'll do better
[19:21] <Ludipe> Hi! I had a few issues with the desktop manager in xubuntu before, I solved it but xfdesktop doesnt start by itself so i have to run it from a terminal and if i close the terminal my user session ends, how do i make xfdesktop autoexecute?
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Iko
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: you do a sweet job dude, don't sweat it
[19:23] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: you both do great here
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> Cheers man
[19:25] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: I know I haven't been arround that much lately but when I am here and you guys (meaning you Ikonia Pici LJL) are there I know I get some good advice on how to solve my problems
[19:26] <paulus68> and that's really appreciated from my side
[19:27] <Saalko> !german
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> Ludipe: there are guides on how to get autologin without needing a login screen etc. You could even install slim or lxdm and login with that and have it set the desktop.
[19:31] <mateusz> halllo
[19:32] <mysticalone> I'm trying to install Zukitwo theme on Gnome3 but I'm getting confused by the GTK3 instructions
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> Paulus68: works both ways. I get so few issues with ubuntu i like to solve the issues so i can learn the OS. Otherwise i'd know very little
[19:32] <Webonaute> hi. how I run a process from root as an other user?
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> Webonaute: prefix the command with:  sudo
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> mysticalone: gnome3 isn't supported here
[19:33] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: but that's because you work with it 24/7 I use it occasionally unfortunatly since I depend on windows because of my work
[19:33] <Webonaute> ActionParsnip: I dont want to run the process as root.
[19:33] <Webonaute> but like it was www-data
[19:34] <llutz> Webonaute: sudo -u user   or su
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: i mainly use win server 2k3 and ESX for work. Ubuntu just makes my home systems easier
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> Webonaute: as llutz says. You'll find examples online
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: thanks for the grattitude. It makes a difference :-)
[19:37] <Webonaute> ty. su user - c will do the job I think
[19:37] <jazonn> is it possible to install to a loopfile on an ntfs partition?
[19:38] <sec> somebody knows how add more desktop in ubuntu 11.04 with unity? only I've 4 desktops
[19:38] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: unfortunatly there are still some windows applications that I need to give a good support to my customers and from time to time the lack of finding a descent driver for specific hardware( but it became better over the years,  I must admit)
[19:39] <jlstew> sec -- right click on the grid that shows your desktops (on your task bar), select preferences
[19:39] <jlstew> increase the numbers of columns and rows
[19:39] <gh0st> Is there an assembler like masm I can use on Ubuntu? I found "nasm" in the Ubuntu Software Center. Is that essentially the same thing?
[19:40] <Webonaute> any daemon exist for ubuntu to check the permission change on a direcotry?
[19:40] <TomSlominski> Hi. I've got a Samsung Galaxy S II and weirdly, it seems to be colliding with my wireless card. Only a full restart helps :(
[19:40] <dryad> !ops
[19:40] <LjL> dryad: yes?
[19:40] <jpds> dryad: Hello.
[19:42] <jlstew> Webonaute -- i think this guide is what you're looking for
[19:42] <jlstew> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-inotify-examples-to-replicate-directories/
[19:43] <jazonn> is there a performance loss with using wubi?
[19:44] <D_Russ> ok so i just figured out and maybe i and wrong that my usb keyboard and mouse issues may not be belkin kvm related. Reason is becaus i unplugged them both from the kvm and plugged them direct to the buntu box and i still have the 3-5 minute delay before they start to work after a reboot
[19:44] <jpvoip> Helllo, im havin some issues with my notebook running ubutnu 11.04: it doesnt recognize my webcam and bluetooth.... what is the best approach to find and install the correct drivers?
[19:44] <D_Russ> anyideas
[19:44] <gh0st> Well binuntils is already installed, but how do I use it?
[19:45] <jlstew> jpvoip: what model is your laptop?
[19:45] <elhoir> hello guys, i want to downgrade Win7 32-bit to WinXP 64-bit.... i have Ubuntu 11.04 installed in another partition and i dont want to lose it in the process.... how can i restore GRUB ?
[19:45] <sec> jlstew: not work
[19:46] <sec> jlstew: is ubuntu 11.04 + unity
[19:46] <rst8> !ops
[19:46] <elhoir> i know how to restore when you are reinstalling the same OS you previously had installed... but Win7 and XP have different boot loaders so....
[19:46] <jpds> rst8: A ver, tio.
[19:46] <elhoir> jpds: español? :)
[19:47] <jpds> elhoir: Yes.
[19:47] <elhoir> jpds: pues tu me vas a servir de ayuda :D
[19:47] <jpds> elhoir: → #ubuntu-es
[19:47] <jazonn> is there a performance loss with using wubi?
[19:48] <macer1> jazonn, yes
[19:48] <shbk> hello! does anybody know way in which possible to create booting usb pen with: msdos, linux, windows ? I sought, but I 've found only combinations like   windows+msdos  or windows+linux.  but I need all three OS. thanks in advance
[19:48] <macer1> jazonn, if you can install it without wubi, please do it...
[19:48] <genii-around> jazonn: Yes. there is a very comprehensive article on the subject at http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_wubi_1010&num=1
[19:49] <sec> jlstew: any idea?
[19:49] <jlstew> sec: the app that is used for that is "Workspace Switcher"
[19:50] <jlstew> you might be able to do a search for it in the unity interface
[19:50] <yizzlegizzie> when i put my mouse over an audio file it use to play the file but now it does not I wonder why?
[19:50] <LjL> i hope that's a misfeature that's been removed!
[19:51] <shbk>  hello! does anybody know way in which is possible to create booting usb pen with: msdos, linux, windows ? I sought, but I 've found only combinations like   windows+msdos  or windows+linux.  but I need all three OS. thanks in advance  (I corrected grammar)
[19:51] <tarek_> hi there. I messend around with alsa and pulse audio, now my speakers won't mute when I plug in and I lost my volume control indicator thingy. : ( — and advice?
[19:52] <tarek_> *plug in headphones
[19:54] <jpvoip> s093294:  InfoWay note w7415
[19:55] <jpvoip> jlstew: InfoWay note w7415
[19:55] <Guest17878> .
[19:56] <hellslinger> hello! does anyone know why grub isn't accepting my default option?
[19:56] <hellslinger> I've set /etc/default/grub to have my windows partition as my default, have run update-grub, but the default still appears to be the first thing in the grub list at boot
[19:57] <tonywade> hi
[19:59] <llutz> hellslinger: "default" doesn't change the order, it just places the cursor on the default-entry
[19:59] <tonywade> does anyone know how to install the latest assault cube from the website
[19:59] <hellslinger> llutz, unfortunately, it isn't even doing that for me
[19:59] <eduardoo> I've installed natty with homedir encrypted. It used to work for a week. No I cannot log in using gdm. I can log in into console. It's really sad...
[20:00] <jlstew> jpvoip: you from portugal? looks like that model comes prepackaged with Windows 7...you might verify that the bluetooth and wifi are functioning properly there first.
[20:00] <hellslinger> on launchpad, someone suggest a hack to change the os-prober in /etc/grub.d/ to a higher precedence
[20:00] <hellslinger> by changing it's name
[20:00] <robinbowes> Is there any particular reason visudo defaults to using nano as its editor?
[20:00] <eduardoo> I addem myself to nopasswdlogin group to overcome it.
[20:00] <llutz> hellslinger: yes, rename it to 08 or somewhat < linux-entries
[20:01] <hellslinger> llutz: I guess that'll work, I wish I didn't have to use a hack to make it work... oh well
[20:01] <eduardoo> Anybody can help me to debug this mess? I've seen some interesting things in /var/log/gdm
[20:01] <hellslinger> llutz, thanks
[20:02] <llutz> hellslinger: it'ss work since it finds your windows before it even checks for other (linux) OS
[20:03] <hellslinger> llutz, it's too bad GRUB_DEFAULT doesn't work
[20:03] <tarek_> hi there. I messend around with alsa and pulse audio, now my speakers won't mute when I plug in headphones and I lost my volume control applet. : ( — and advice?
[20:04] <llutz> hellslinger: file a bugreport, it should work
[20:04] <jpvoip> jlstew: Brasil... yes... it was working on win7...
[20:08] <magn3ts> Are the ubuntu apt servers down?
[20:08] <beefman> i'm trying to install pecl/json but keep getting "Cannot find config.m4" then a phpize error...  any ideas?
[20:09] <eypal> Sorrya again for asking but in case here is somebody from Canonical Ltd please could you send a private message for me. I do have something business stuff in my mind, a kind of checking up one thing on your website. Have been trying to email you but haven't gotten reply. Thank you so much.
[20:09] <llutz> eypal: canonical.com -> contact    is the better place for you
[20:09] <BarkingFish> magn3ts, they're working at this end -  what problems are you having?
[20:10] <magn3ts> BarkingFish, not sure, they 404'd four times in a row and then finally went through :S
[20:10] <magn3ts> might have been a hickup on the local network or somethign
[20:10] <BarkingFish> possibly your network connection might've been a bit slow and they timed out, magn3ts
[20:10] <BarkingFish> happened to me a few times on Wifi
[20:11] <jiltdil> I am recording video by desktop recorder but after recording it also gives some small noise how to fix this?
[20:12] <yeats> jiltdil: what kind of noise?  a low hum?
[20:12] <jiltdil> yeats:yes
[20:13] <yeats> jiltdil: it probably means your computer is not properly grounded
[20:13] <jiltdil> yeats: means you are talking about  electricity earhing
[20:13] <kumi> a
[20:14] <jiltdil> yeats:Any suggestion for me to do it better
[20:14] <yeats> jiltdil: you'll need to investigate your power setup (which is outside of #ubuntu support, unfortunately :-/ )
[20:14] <jiltdil> yeats: ok thanks
[20:14] <BarkingFish> jiltdil, you can check this, if you unplug your speakers from your speaker socket and touch the tip of the plug on any metal part of your case, do you hear a hum or buzz from your speakers?
[20:15] <BarkingFish> if so, you need to switch off your PC and speak to a technician about getting your case, board and equipment correctly grounded.
[20:15] <jiltdil> Barkingfish:yes
[20:16] <BarkingFish> I've had an earth leak in a PC previously, and it failed to fire my circuit breakers downstairs.  I wound up with a PC fire.
[20:16] <abbec> i have totally wrong date from php
[20:16] <jiltdil> barkingFish: hm this is right my house don't have earthing yet
[20:16] <BarkingFish> Get your machine tested at your earliest possible convenience
[20:16] <abbec> plus it have stopped
[20:17] <jazonn> can dd be used to backup a partition that is in use?
[20:17] <vikram> how make entry for wall paper in grub ??
[20:17] <jpvoip> jlstew any idea?
[20:18] <llutz> jazonn: no, it might have corupted data in resulting image
[20:18] <cdnjay> I know this isn't the right forum but Meg Whitman, CEO of HP, crazy...
[20:18] <BarkingFish> cdnjay, if you know this isn't the right forum, please put it in one that is :) try #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:19] <BarkingFish> brb
[20:20] <CrazyLemon> hey guys. I tried to install 11.10 on APU A6-3650 (with integrated graphics) and the damn thing doesnt want to boot ..i installed it via alternative cd/usb . Tried to go into recovery mode but no go - it stops at 'Loading ...'
[20:20] <CrazyLemon> So any idea/hint ?
[20:25] <Jargonn> How can I create a DVD disk that will boot and allow me to install Mac, from ubuntu? I've got the DMG file, I bought it off the apple store.
[20:27] <cdnjay> Jargonn: What do you mean "from ubuntu"?
[20:28] <Jargonn> Like, what burning program should I use?
[20:29] <iceroot> Jargonn: brasero (installed by default), k3b
[20:29] <iceroot> Jargonn: but the best is not to use apple-products :)
[20:29] <cdnjay> Can brasero read dmg images?
[20:30] <iceroot> cdnjay: i guess he means img-files
[20:30] <zykotick9> cdnjay, i doubt it
[20:30] <Lobie1> Is this where I ask general Ubuntu questions?
[20:30] <Gentoo64> yes
[20:30] <h00k> Lobie1: this would be the place!
[20:30] <iceroot> Lobie1: this
[20:31] <cdnjay> Jargonn: Apple has a free utility to use for making a USB boot stick for Lion, is it possible for you to use that?
[20:31] <Lobie1> thanks. I'm having trouble updating an older version of Ubuntu
[20:31] <llutz> Jargonn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343808
[20:33] <Praet0rian> t0rian
[20:33] <Lobie1> I cannot update through the Update Manager with ubuntu 7.04
[20:33] <KM0201> Lobie1: because it is EOL
[20:33] <iceroot> !eol | Lobie1
[20:33] <iceroot> Lobie1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[20:34] <Lobie1> appreciate the quick reply.
[20:35] <cdnjay> Llutz: nice find, that's an impressive thread.
[20:35] <Odaym> is it possible to to upgrade from Ubuntu 10.04 to Kubuntu 10.10 if I have the latter's CD?
[20:36] <Gentoo64> i dont think so
[20:36] <Odaym> I don't either
[20:36] <Praet0rian> Odaym, yes
[20:36] <Odaym> it is? how?
[20:36] <Odaym> wait a minute
[20:36] <Praet0rian> Odaym, its not that difficut
[20:36] <Odaym> but needs 2 hours of hacking around
[20:36] <Odaym> ?
[20:36] <iceroot> Odaym: upgrade to 10.10 ubuntu and then install kubuntu-desktop
[20:37] <Odaym> I dont want 10.10 with Unity
[20:37] <Odaym> 10.10 doesn't have unity
[20:37] <iceroot> Odaym: 10.10 has gnome2
[20:37] <Odaym> yea
[20:37] <Praet0rian> Odaym, not, you simply keep your root systems and mount new ones
[20:37] <iceroot> Odaym: 11.10 is the first release without gnome
[20:37] <Praet0rian> 10.10 has unity
[20:37] <Gentoo64> id reinstall tbh
[20:37] <iceroot> Odaym: without gnome2
[20:37] <Odaym> when  I go to the update manager, I only get the option to upgrade to 11.04
[20:37] <iceroot> Praet0rian: and gnome2
[20:37] <eduardoo> I cannot log in into gdm despite my passwd is OK. I use encrypted home. To log in into gdm I had to add myself nopasswdlogin and log in into console to force decryption of my home. Any body can help me to debug it further ?
[20:38] <Omni_Lynk> Anyone know a good program that can setup an ISO to a USB Thumb/Pen Drive? Every version i've found so far wants me to go w/ a CD instead of the Thumbdrive i have.
[20:38] <iceroot> !usb | Omni_Lynk
[20:38] <KM0201> Omni_Lynk: for windows?
[20:38] <Praet0rian> iceroot, irrelevnat, gnome can be installed ad an alternate WM
[20:38] <Omni_Lynk> KM0201, For VMware
[20:38] <igor_> unetbootin install on usb
[20:38] <iceroot> Praet0rian: what?
[20:38] <xhazk> hi
[20:38] <KM0201> have no idea about vmware
[20:38] <Praet0rian> iceroot> Praet0rian: and gnome2
[20:39] <Praet0rian> you asked
[20:39] <iceroot> Praet0rian: gnome2 is installed by default on every ubuntu-system until 11.04
[20:39]  * Praet0rian is VMware expert
[20:39] <Praet0rian> ask away about VMware
[20:39] <Omni_Lynk> KM0201, I have the ISO, just need a program that will burn it to my Thumbdrive.
[20:39] <KM0201> Omni_Lynk: why do you need a usb (or CD for that mater) for vmware.. just boot directly from the ISO.
[20:39] <Praet0rian> iceroot, not if specified otehrwise
[20:39] <Praet0rian> installer will not if asked
[20:39] <llutz> Omni_Lynk: hybrid-iso? use dd. if no hybrid, use unetbootin
[20:39] <iceroot> Praet0rian: you know what "by default" means?
[20:39] <Praet0rian> do you iceroot
[20:40] <Praet0rian> default means its compiled
[20:40] <iceroot> Praet0rian: what?
[20:40] <Praet0rian> you have the option NOT to
[20:40] <Praet0rian> rtm
[20:40] <Praet0rian> ;-)
[20:40] <iceroot> Praet0rian: i dont think you get the topic of the discussion
[20:40] <Omni_Lynk> KM0201, how do you boot directly from the ISO?
[20:41] <KM0201> Omni_Lynk: it's an option under the settings.
[20:41] <KM0201> i know its there, but i don't use vmware so not 100% sure
[20:41] <KM0201> but its there.
[20:41] <Praet0rian> iceroot, I been using just about every flavour of Linux ever distributed, I think I know my nix but thanks for your concern
[20:41] <Omni_Lynk> KM0201, i have not installed it yet. it is going on a clean hard drive..
[20:41] <KM0201> Omni_Lynk: i thought you said you were using vmware
[20:42] <iceroot> Odaym: back to topic, you canm use gnome2 with 10.10
[20:42] <Gentoo64> Omni_Lynk, is it just for booting an os?
[20:42] <iceroot> !classic | Odaym
[20:42] <Odaym> I know I can
[20:42] <Omni_Lynk> KM0201, i will be, i've downloaded the ISO, but cannot get it to start up on my thumb drive.
[20:42] <Odaym> but it breaks, just like Unity
[20:42] <iceroot> Odaym: why?
[20:42] <Polah> Praet0rian, it is completely unnecessary for you to take that attitude here.
[20:42] <Gentoo64> Omni_Lynk, for virtualbox / vmware just choose the iso..
[20:42] <Odaym> I don't know why it keeps breaking
[20:42] <KM0201> Omni_Lynk: why are you tryig to start it on a USB< if you want to install it in vmware?.. all you have to do is boot the ISO in vmware.. thats my point.
[20:43] <Praet0rian> Polah, no attitude
[20:43] <Praet0rian> just hleping
[20:43] <D_Russ> anyone good with mouse issues?
[20:43] <Odaym> not my first run at Ubuntu, I ran away and came back
[20:43] <Odaym> :P
[20:43] <D_Russ> keyboard and mouse
[20:43] <Praet0rian> if I seem brass forgive me
[20:43] <Odaym> ran away when Unity came around
[20:43] <Polah> Praet0rian, your last comment seems pretty close to "I'm better than you".
[20:43] <Omni_Lynk> KM0201,  So i should just run the ISO in Ubuntu and install it into the clean Hard drive?
[20:43] <Praet0rian> not at all Polah
[20:43] <iceroot> Odaym:  i would suggest to do the upgrade and if there are any issues fell free to get help here
[20:43] <Praet0rian> I am no better than anyone
[20:43] <KM0201> Omni_Lynk: you're making no sense... i can't make heads or tails of what you're wanting to do.
[20:43] <Praet0rian> I just love linux ;-)
[20:44] <KM0201> Omni_Lynk: vmware, installs to a virtual drive, not a hard drive.
[20:44] <Gentoo64> i thin most people here like linux... lol
[20:44] <D_Russ> i love playing with all the free software
[20:44] <D_Russ> but i just wish things would work without issue
[20:44] <Gentoo64> D_Russ, what mouse issues?
[20:44] <Odaym> that's not how life is
[20:44] <Odaym> so don't expect it to be that way with software :P
[20:45] <IdleOne> chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[20:45] <Odaym> there are ALWAYS issues, and if you don't see the small ones, fear the bigger ones
[20:45] <D_Russ> whenGentoo64: mouse and keyboard dont work for 3-5 minutes on restart of natty
[20:45] <Omni_Lynk> KM0201, So VMware does not run first, you boot from the OS, then into VMWare?
[20:45] <Praet0rian> Was someone asking about VMWare earlier?
[20:45] <D_Russ> Gentoo64: mouse and keyboard dont work for 3-5 minutes on restart of natty
[20:45] <Gentoo64> D_Russ, thats a hard one...
[20:45] <Gentoo64> try dmesg when they start working
[20:45] <Gentoo64> see if anything obvious comes up
[20:46] <KM0201> Omni_Lynk: sorry.... i have no idea what you're asking, you're gonna have to ask questions that make sense, in order to get help
[20:46] <D_Russ> what is that
[20:46] <D_Russ> dmesg in the terminal?
[20:46] <Gentoo64> D_Russ, just type dmesg in terminal
[20:46] <Gentoo64> yes
[20:46] <Praet0rian> Easier way to view dmesg is in system settings, just a tip
[20:46] <D_Russ> ok let me try that now
[20:46] <Praet0rian> more readable
[20:46] <Omni_Lynk> KM0201, k then..
[20:47] <Omni_Lynk> Anyone know of a program that will burn an ISO to a Thumbdrive instead of a CD/DVD
[20:47] <Gentoo64> Omni_Lynk, unetbootin
[20:47] <llutz> Omni_Lynk: hybrid-iso? use dd. if no hybrid, use unetbootin
[20:47] <Gentoo64> theres quite a few
[20:47] <D_Russ> where is it in system settings?
[20:47] <KM0201> Omni_Lynk: unetbootin
[20:47] <Gentoo64> D_Russ, idk about the system settings thing. just type dmesg in terminal
[20:49] <D_Russ> what am i looking for?
[20:50] <Gentoo64> D_Russ, most of the errors are obvious
[20:50] <Gentoo64> look for mouse / keyboard / usb stuff
[20:50] <Gentoo64> or pastebin dmesg
[20:51] <D_Russ> type pastebin dmesg?
[20:52] <draco_> hi
[20:52] <adwait_sharma> draco_:hi
[20:52] <D_Russ> hello
[20:52] <Mike33> anyone know a page to help generate a gig key for my companies apt repo so I don't get the "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!"
[20:53] <warfaren> can i somehow make a key combination always be sent to my desktop manager?
[20:53] <adwait_sharma> how can i get a Developer account of Ubuntu?
[20:53] <rww> adwait_sharma: what do you mean by "developer account"?
[20:53] <D_Russ> i would paste it here but its just way too much
[20:54] <D_Russ> and i dont really understand it. however i do see mention of both keyboard and mouse
[20:54] <adwait_sharma> rww:i want to contribute Ubuntu community
[20:54] <iceroot> !paste | D_Russ
[20:54] <rww> !contribute | adwait_sharma
[20:54] <iceroot> adwait_sharma: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess
[20:54] <warfaren> i mean if i'm running a fullscreen application and press CTRL+ALT+left/right to switch desktop it does not do that because the fullscreen app is stealing the input
[20:54] <adwait_sharma> rww:Thanks :)
[20:55] <adwait_sharma> ubottu:thanks
[20:55] <adwait_sharma> iceroot:thanks :)
[20:55] <xlr8> buonasera a tutti
[20:55] <iceroot> adwait_sharma: you are welcome (and i am not a bot) :)
[20:55] <D_Russ> [   12.917952] EXT4-fs (sda5): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro,commit=0[   14.081986] r8169 0000:05:00.0: eth0: link up[   14.082144] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready[   14.615355] EXT4-fs (sda5): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro,commit=0[   16.384016] usb 1-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110[   24.560009] eth0: no IPv6 routers present[   31.600037] usb 1-3:...
[20:55] <D_Russ> ...device descriptor read/64, error -110[   31.816013] usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4[   46.928037] usb 1-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110[   62.144019] usb 1-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110[   62.360029] usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 5[   72.768060] usb 1-3: device not accepting address 5, error -110[  ...
[20:55] <adwait_sharma> iceroot:LoL :)
[20:55] <FloodBot1> D_Russ: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:55] <D_Russ> ...72.880037] usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6[   83.288080] usb 1-3: device not accepting address 6, error -110[   83.288093] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 3[   83.552039] usb 2-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2[   83.774779] usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 2 if 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04A9 pid 0x1737[  ...
[20:55] <rww> !it | xlr8
[20:55] <adwait_sharma> iceroot:means i can bother you in future too :D
[20:56] <iceroot> adwait_sharma: like everyone else here :)
[20:57] <Omni_Lynk> Gentoo64, KM0201, llutz, Thank you all for your help, Unetbootin worked wonders.
[20:58] <tonywade> can any 1 help me?
[20:58] <iceroot> tonywade: depending on your question
[20:58] <Polah> Mike33: You can use gpg --gen-key to generate a key pair, then I believe you need to output the public key to a file, but I don't know exactly how to configure the repository to use that key file for signing
[20:58] <Polah> tonywade: It's quite likely.
[20:58] <Tophan> hi
[20:58] <iceroot> Mike33: the packages are signed with a key, that key needs to get imported on client-side
[20:59] <iceroot> Mike33: the repo itself doesnt have a key, just the packages
[20:59] <D_Russ> what do i do after i have used the pastebin
[20:59] <warfaren> send that link to someone?
[20:59] <D_Russ> ok
[20:59] <Polah> iceroot: Isn't the key information supplied by the repository? I recall when using add-apt-repository it pulls some signing information
[20:59] <warfaren> that's why you upload something to pastebin, right?
[20:59] <tonywade> i would like to download the new version of assultcube but it is not on the software centre what do i do?
[21:00] <Polah> iceroot: i.e. the packages are signed individually but the repository is configured to tell the client that all packages are signed with x key?
[21:00] <iceroot> Polah: the packages are signed with a key, the key can be stored in the repo or is part of a package (ubuntu-keyring e.g.)
[21:00] <iceroot> Polah: imo
[21:00] <tonywade> hello?
[21:01] <Tophan> I installed Ubuntu 11.10 and then gnome-shell
[21:01] <Tophan> can I change LightDM to start Gnome3 instead of Unity?
[21:01] <adwait_sharma> I'm planning to conduct a Ubuntu Party in my University
[21:01] <rww> Tophan: #ubuntu+1 for oneiric questions until it's released, please
[21:01] <adwait_sharma> can someone tell me how can i get swags for it?
[21:01] <iceroot> D_Russ: [   31.600037] usb 1-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110   this seems to be the issue for your mouse/keyboard-problems
[21:01] <rww> !notunity-#ubuntu+1 | Tophan: but anyway
[21:02] <Praet0rian> anyone use BitchX?
[21:02] <D_Russ> iceroot:; so do i google that line
[21:02] <tonywade> i would like to download assualt cube what do i do?
[21:02] <Polah> tonywade: I see "AssaultCube" in the repos but no "AssultCube", is that perhaps what you're looking for?
[21:02] <iceroot> Praet0rian: its no longer supported
[21:02] <tonywade> yes thats it
[21:02] <D_Russ> or is there a newbie dictionary for that error
[21:02] <Praet0rian> yea iceroot that stinks but I still use it
[21:02] <rww> !bitchx | Praet0rian
[21:03] <rww> i.e., we don't support it here :P
[21:03] <iceroot> D_Russ: does other usb hardware is also not available during that time of 3-5 minutes?
[21:03] <Praet0rian> ubottu, yea, I noticed that a long time ago, just wanted to know if anyone uses it
[21:03] <D_Russ> i have not tested anything else
[21:03] <ih20i> Where would I ask for help with LAMP?
[21:03] <Praet0rian> BAH!
[21:03] <D_Russ> only other item is the printer
[21:03] <Praet0rian> lol
[21:03] <rww> ih20i: here or #ubuntu-server
[21:03] <iceroot> ih20i: depending on the question
[21:03] <Polah> ih20i: Here for Ubuntu, or #httpd, #php, #mysql for each part.
[21:04] <IdleOne> Praet0rian: keep to support in this channel if you are in the mood for chatting you are welcome to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:04] <tonywade> how do u download the new edition of assaultcube?
[21:04] <D_Russ> iceroot: only thing else is the printer. it works but i have not tested during the period that my KB and mouse dont work
[21:04] <Polah> tonywade: sudo apt-get install assaultcube
[21:04] <iceroot> D_Russ: how often does it happen?
[21:04] <ih20i> I installed Apache2 before someone pointed me at lamp.  Then I grabbed that.  localhost works but myphpadmin doesn't.
[21:05] <Praet0rian> thanks for the tip IdleOne
[21:05] <toddnine> Hi guys.  My ~/.xsession-errors.old was 1.2 T this morning.  Is there any way to turn off the logging to this file?
[21:05] <D_Russ> iceroot: every restart without fail
[21:05] <ih20i> Guides online say to go to a directory that my computer doesn't have.  Should I remove all apache and start over? =\
[21:05] <Praet0rian> ih20i, I have a nice solution for you
[21:05] <iceroot> ih20i: phpmyadmin needs to be enabled with "a2enmod
[21:05] <Polah> ih20i: phpmyadmin you mean? Should be accessible through http://localhost/phpmyadmin if it's running
[21:05] <tonywade> ? sorry im a newbe to this so if you could say that in simpler english that would be great
[21:05] <D_Russ> iceroot: it works perfectly after that 3-5 minutes have passes
[21:05] <D_Russ> well almost perfectly
[21:05] <iceroot> D_Russ: so its only at the start?
[21:05] <Polah> ih20i: /var/www/phpmyadmin doesn't exist, but it should be there if you go through a browser
[21:05] <Praet0rian> iceroot, whay would you need that mod
[21:05] <ih20i> Ahhh
[21:06] <D_Russ> iceroot: yes
[21:06] <Polah> tonywade: Run the command: sudo apt-get install assaultcube    in a terminal, type in your password and hit y when it prompts you for y/n
[21:06] <D_Russ> only on reboot
[21:06] <Praet0rian> I do not believe thats neccessary when you use tasksel install lamp-server
[21:06] <ih20i> That should get me there thanks.
[21:06] <Praet0rian> ih20i, just use tasksel
[21:06] <Praet0rian> wills et everything up fo ryou
[21:06] <iceroot> Praet0rian: ih20i its not /var/www/phpmyadmin  its handled with an apache alias which is controled with a2enmode (also see /etc/apache2/sites-available/)
[21:06] <iceroot> Praet0rian: wrong nick
[21:06] <adwait_sharma> I'm planning to conduct a Ubuntu Party in my University
[21:06] <iceroot> Polah: see above
[21:06] <adwait_sharma> can someone tell me how can i get swags for it?
[21:06] <Polah> iceroot: I've done apt-get install phpmyadmin and had it run without needing to then enable it with apache
[21:07] <Praet0rian> iceroot, I know, all you ahve to do is edit hosts file and create a virtual host
[21:07] <iceroot> Polah: hm on debian it needs to be enabled, maybe ubuntu is generating that symlink automaticly
[21:07] <Praet0rian> no need for any mod
[21:07] <sogeking99> hey guys, i have the visual boy advanced emulator of the software centre, my rom runs with a frame rate thats to high and sound is speeded up
[21:07] <Polah> iceroot: It was Ubuntu 10.04 the last time I set it up and phpmyadmin ran after just installing through apt
[21:07] <Praet0rian> I have this config running as we speak
[21:07] <iceroot> Polah: but its not in /var/www  its a apache-alias
[21:08] <adwait_sharma> ?
[21:08] <Praet0rian> /var/www is default virtual host btw
[21:08] <Polah> iceroot: I know there isn't any /var/www/phpmyadmin directory, I said it doesn't exist. But phpmyadmin is accessible through address/phpmyadmin
[21:08] <iceroot> Praet0rian: again, you are missing the topic
[21:08] <Praet0rian> yea sorry
[21:08] <Praet0rian> used to chatting
[21:08] <Praet0rian> lol
[21:08] <D_Russ> iceroot: i have a kvm hooked up aswell but i get the same problem on restart even if i plugg the KB & mouse up directly, i even tried a restart with them plugged in directly and no luck
[21:08] <iceroot> Polah: correct
[21:09] <Polah> Praet0rian, edit hosts file? Apache sites are handled through the sites directory in /etc/apache2
[21:09] <iceroot> D_Russ: does the mouse get power? or the keyboard? are the leds on?
[21:09] <Praet0rian> Polah, I was referring to creating you OWN host instead of using localhost
[21:09] <Praet0rian> much easier
[21:09] <iceroot> Praet0rian: virtualhost has nothing to do with localhost
[21:10] <Polah> Pret0rian: Using another domaine name instead of "localhost"?
[21:10] <Praet0rian> I know iceroot
[21:10] <Praet0rian> localhost is defined in hosts file definig your machine
[21:10] <Praet0rian> along with your host
[21:10] <Praet0rian> eg mine is singularity
[21:10] <melroy> I got a laptop with Nvidia optimus
[21:10] <D_Russ> iceroot: the mouse is wireless so yes the light is on but the keyboard is usb powered and no the numlock light does not come on nor does the caps lock light furing that period
[21:11] <iceroot> D_Russ: sounds like a hardware-issue for me
[21:11] <Praet0rian> Polah yes
[21:11] <Praet0rian> anohter domain name
[21:11] <Praet0rian> ANY one you want
[21:11] <Webonaute> anyone know the official chanel for OpenOffice?
[21:11] <Praet0rian> set it in hosts file in /etc than specify whatever domain you want
[21:11] <iceroot> D_Russ: sounds like the usb ports are disabled and get no power
[21:11] <melroy> is there any news about nvidia optimus? So are nvidia and Ubuntu implementing nvidia optimus gfx cards?
[21:11] <iceroot> Webonaute: #openoffice.org
[21:11] <iceroot> !alis | Webonaute
[21:11] <Praet0rian> then create a Virtual  host for that namebased VH
[21:12] <Webonaute> ty
[21:12] <Praet0rian> that was to you polah
[21:12] <Praet0rian> I will be more than happy to walk you through in prvt
[21:12] <D_Russ> iceroot: as in KB & mouse? or as in motherboard? only thing is that ubuntu is on a partition, and when i run windows on the other partition i have no issues. so there must be a setting in ubuntu thats not sending the dignal fast enough
[21:12] <alphanobdy> hello
[21:13] <iceroot> D_Russ: ah ok interesting point with windows
[21:13] <Polah> Praet0rian: Sure, but that would only apply on the local computer would it not, thus just using http://localhost is fairly simple, without needing to set up another name. Other systems would still need to use the IP or a domain name provided by an actual DNS server.
[21:13] <alphanobdy> can anyone help me format a usb pen drive to fat 32            i only seem to have the optoin for fat and ext.....
[21:13] <alphanobdy> want to creat a bootable usb and says i need fat32
[21:13] <mcmuffin> I have two monitors that work fine, but they are on the same workspace. I want to be able to switch to any workspace on any screen. Using Gnome 2.32.1, have an nvidia card with the nouveau driver
[21:13] <Praet0rian> yes Polah, but what happens sometimes is that services screw up with locahost, and yes for local development only
[21:13] <alphanobdy> and i use anyother?
[21:13] <Praet0rian> Polah and also yes you will need DNS for a public domain
[21:14] <Praet0rian> but still use Namebased virtual hsoting
[21:14] <iceroot> D_Russ: i cant find any usefull results in google for error -100, only for error -71
[21:14] <Polah> Praet0rian: Never heard of services not being able to handle localhost, but for a private development server I don't see why you'd go through the effort of setting up a domain name rather than just typing localhost which is already there, or 127.0.0.1 which is fairly easy to remember
[21:14] <Polah> alphanobdy: What are you trying to boot from USB that requires FAT32?
[21:15] <Praet0rian> because polah, with localhost you are restricted to ONE directory of development
[21:15] <Praet0rian> polah say I want multiple versions of app testing
[21:15] <Praet0rian> polah, nice to have multitple points of testing
[21:15] <D_Russ> iceroot: thanks for looking i appreciate the help
[21:15] <Praet0rian> imho
[21:15] <iceroot> Polah: there is an application which handles 127.0.0.1 different then localhost (doesnt matter if there is 127.0.0.1 localhost in /etc/hosts) the application is mysql but for apache there is no difference
[21:15] <alphanobdy> Polah: BT5 but i read most any os will need to be on a fat32drive
[21:15] <Polah> Praet0rian: Oh, I see what you're saying now. Yes, I guess it would make sense to have multiple names pointing to multiple local sites.
[21:15] <Praet0rian> and alo if you are running an internal devel server, other users will need their own web directory
[21:16] <tonywade> polah i cant get it to work
[21:16] <Praet0rian> hence multiple personalized domains for internal devel Poloah
[21:16] <Praet0rian> Polah **
[21:16] <iceroot> D_Russ: sorry that i cant help more
[21:17] <Praet0rian> Polah, that is the real power of Vhosting ;-)
[21:17] <Praet0rian> Proof of concept Polah is when running localhost, try to run Nessus, never work because you ahve to generate SSL cert
[21:17] <atari2600a> hey
[21:18] <atari2600a> what's up with the ocelot wallpapers?
[21:18] <tonywade> polah: i acnt get it to work
[21:18] <D_Russ> iceroot: no problem thanks for attempting. if i lick this problem i will be sure to post it in the forums. Funnything is that it worked good when i first installed natty with wubi, then it started acting up in wubi, so i did a partition install and same problem.
[21:18] <Polah> alphanobdy: I assume you mean BackTrack 5? That's unsupported here, you could use any filesystem really. I believe FAT is recommended because it's non-journaling (I could be wrong) and widely supported by multiple OSes (Windows only supports NTFS and FAT natively, so anything like extX wouldn't be readable by default for example)
[21:18] <Polah> tonywade: What do you mean you can't get it to work?
[21:19] <alphanobdy> ty Polah
[21:19] <iceroot> D_Russ: sounds good with the forum
[21:19] <iceroot> D_Russ: and the current system is a real installation on hardware?
[21:19] <sogeking99> hey guys, i have the visual boy advanced emulator of the software centre, my rom runs with a frame rate thats to high and sound is speeded up
[21:19] <D_Russ> yes
[21:19] <D_Russ> partition install
[21:19] <tonywade> i ran the command but it anly shows up a load of gibberish
[21:20] <NeedSomeHelp> hello
[21:20] <D_Russ> iceroot: yes its currently a full install on a 100gb partition
[21:20] <Praet0rian> Hi NeedSomeHelp
[21:20] <tensorpudding> sogeking99: this isn't really a place for help with that
[21:20] <tensorpudding> sogeking99: maybe check the forums or discussion page for that app
[21:20] <Polah> tonywade: That's apt reading packages and such like. The last line should be a prompt asking for confirmation to install as "y/n", enter y and it'll install
[21:20] <triunenature> test
[21:21] <NeedSomeHelp> I have installed Wine and a windows-program in ubuntu, and it works fine. But how can I run two instances of that windows-program? If I try to open a new instance of the win-app with wine, it just takes me to instance 1.
[21:21] <Praet0rian> NeedSomeHelp, multiple installes of Wine
[21:21] <Polah> triunenature, 95/100, A*
[21:21] <iceroot> D_Russ: ok
[21:21] <NeedSomeHelp> Praet0rian: how do i install another copy of Wine with synaptic ?
[21:22] <iceroot> NeedSomeHelp: depending on the windows-program if it allows two instances
[21:22] <Praet0rian> NeedSomeHelp, you dont use synaptic, you use source
[21:22] <triunenature> Hey, when i plug in a ethernet cord into my laptop ( RJ-45 Cat53) My Nic doesn't light up at all.  I know the cord works, because it works with my other computers, and I know my network is up, because... well im talking in IRC...
[21:22] <triunenature> cat5e*
[21:22] <Praet0rian> triunenature, no drivers
[21:22] <Praet0rian> maybe lighs just burn out
[21:22] <Gentoo64> no drivers would mean it wouldnt work
[21:22] <NeedSomeHelp> iceroot: I think the win-program doesnt allow more than one instance (like many windows programs), but I want to bypass that somehow.
[21:23] <Praet0rian> Gentoo64, yea I caught that
[21:23] <Praet0rian> did think he was using it
[21:23] <NeedSomeHelp> Praet0rian: please explain in more details :)
[21:23] <Praet0rian> didnt*
[21:23] <iceroot> NeedSomeHelp: wine is not the problem, it can start more then one copy
[21:23] <Gentoo64> NeedSomeHelp, you cant install wine twice
[21:23] <triunenature> Might i ask the obvious, how does one install drivers on ubuntu?  Second, i doubt its just the lights because nothing works when i plug it in.  wifi works great though
[21:23] <rodriesp> hi, excuse me, when will the Beta 2 of 11.10 be released?
[21:23] <Gentoo64> and that would be a stupid workaround
[21:23] <rodriesp> today?
[21:23] <Praet0rian> NeedSomeHelp, iceroot is correct, but I thought you wanted to run simultanious wine
[21:24] <Praet0rian> Gentoo64, of course you can
[21:24] <Praet0rian> want to see me do it in a video
[21:24] <Gentoo64> in different dirs
[21:24] <NeedSomeHelp> I want to run simultanious two instances of the same windows-program that i'm running through wine
[21:24] <Praet0rian> NeedSomeHelp, then click on the app twice
[21:24] <Gentoo64> Praet0rian, your not even reading peoples questions, but answering lol
[21:24] <Praet0rian> Of course I am Gentoo64
[21:25] <Gentoo64> ...
[21:25] <triunenature> rodriesp, #ubuntu+1 is for future releases
[21:25] <Praet0rian> Gentoo64, lets just be friends
[21:25] <Praet0rian> ;-)
[21:25] <ssma> hey i want to use netflix in ubuntu and tells me that doe snot work
[21:25] <NeedSomeHelp> Praet0rian: I did, but the second time I try to open it (to open a second instance), it just takes me to the first instance
[21:25] <Gentoo64> trying to troll or something?
[21:25] <rodriesp> oh, thanks triunenature, going there
[21:26] <Praet0rian> NeedSomeHelp, and easy way to run apps wine twice would be to type wine (app) from the command line
[21:26] <Praet0rian> this shoudl create a seperate process
[21:26] <NeedSomeHelp> Praet0rian: tried, no luck
[21:27] <Gentoo64> NeedSomeHelp, what app is it anyway?
[21:27] <Praet0rian> NeedSomeHelp, just open terminal and goto your windows wine folder, find the notepad exe and type wine notepad
[21:27] <IdleOne> NeedSomeHelp: maybe ask in #winehq
[21:27] <Praet0rian> if you want to run notepad that it
[21:27] <Praet0rian> is*
[21:27] <Praet0rian> NeedSomeHelp, I do not think that you are correctly doing this lol
[21:28] <dashavoo> anyone know what ports need to be open for video / sound to work with jabber in empathy?
[21:29] <Praet0rian> dashavoo, http://linuxcrunch.com/content/how-use-empathy-messenger
[21:29] <Praet0rian> contains ports
[21:29] <LmAt> My system menu is gone, how do I get it back?
[21:29] <LmAt> The launcher is there, but it's not as helpful I think.
[21:30] <otak> ssma: Never tried but I heard that too on klaatu's podcast.
[21:30] <Praet0rian> LmAt, what WM you using
[21:30] <Praet0rian> Unity, Gnome straight?
[21:30] <Chlorek> hi there
[21:30] <LmAt> Praet0rian, How do I find out?
[21:30] <Chlorek> I need some opinions about 11.4
[21:31] <Praet0rian> LmAt, well what verions of ubuntu
[21:31] <Gentoo64> LmAt, did it have the bar on the side?
[21:31] <dashavoo> Praet0rian: I can't see the bit about ports on there, any hints about where in the page?
[21:31] <LmAt> Gentoo64, Yes, I have the bar on the side.
[21:31] <Gentoo64> unity then
[21:31] <LmAt> Gentoo64, I did something to make the bar show up, and I want it to go away.
[21:31] <Gentoo64> LmAt, at login choose classic
[21:31] <Gentoo64> from a dropdown box
[21:31] <LmAt> Gentoo64, Thanks.
[21:32] <LmAt> Gentoo64, There is no such list.
[21:32] <LmAt> Gentoo64, oh
[21:32] <LmAt> Gentoo64, I think I see it at the bottom.
[21:32] <Praet0rian> dashavoo, are you trying to configure router or firewall
[21:32] <LmAt> Gentoo64, Jackpot!  You can not know how excited I am!
[21:33] <Gentoo64> cool
[21:33] <Praet0rian> Gentoo64, was he using unity
[21:33] <Gentoo64> yes
[21:33] <Praet0rian> ahh
[21:33] <Praet0rian> just curious
[21:34] <Gentoo64> why the hell are they even continuing development of unity if everyone hates it
[21:34] <dashavoo> Praet0rian: router
[21:34] <Praet0rian> Gentoo64, I like unity
[21:34] <dashavoo> well, router's firewall
[21:34] <Praet0rian> lol
[21:34] <macer1> Gentoo64: use something else
[21:34] <Gentoo64> i dont use unity
[21:34] <Gentoo64> just saying
[21:34] <Praet0rian> dashavoo, have you tried DMZ on your router to see if you got things setup corretly to run?
[21:34] <r3pek> hey guys, what's the correct way to request a version bump to a package?
[21:34] <Gentoo64> the majority of people just want it gone
[21:34] <Praet0rian> Gentoo64, I like the quick search
[21:34] <Polah> Gentoo64: Because not everyone hates it. Use whatever DE you want, you're not forced to use it.
[21:35] <dashavoo> Praet0rian: I was just thinking about doing that, I'll come back if I still need help ;), thanks
[21:35] <Praet0rian> np
[21:36] <Praet0rian> crap I should have told him about TCP view to see outgoing ports
[21:36] <dashavoo> Praet0rian: tell me now
[21:36] <Praet0rian> I forgot is wireshark shows ports or not
[21:36] <Praet0rian> hang on lemme check something
[21:37] <anth0ny> I'm having trouble scp'ing some files, I keep getting "scp: ambiguous target" even though I know the path is right.  here's the command: scp -r /home/anthony/Music/Al\ Green tony@server.com:/My\ Music/ . I know the directory /My\ Music/ is there (although it's a symlink) and the command works as scp -r /home/anthony/Music/Al\ Green tony@server.com:
[21:37] <Praet0rian> YES dashavoo
[21:37] <Praet0rian> get wireshark and run your stuff, it will tell you waht ports are attempting ot be used
[21:37] <dashavoo> Praet0rian: good idea, thanks
[21:37] <Praet0rian> np
[21:38] <yeats> anth0ny: try rsync
[21:38] <Praet0rian> remember to run as sudo
[21:38] <dashavoo> Praet0rian: I know ;)
[21:38] <Praet0rian> ;-)
[21:38] <Gentoo64> should be run as its own user tbh
[21:38] <Praet0rian> Gentoo64, is right but for quick stuff...well up to you
[21:39] <dashavoo> yeah, I can never be bothered
[21:39] <Praet0rian> dashavoo, give me root, lets test that theory
[21:39] <Praet0rian> heheh
[21:39] <anth0ny> yeats: yeah?  i mean, this is well within the purpose of scp, why use rsync?
[21:39] <dashavoo> Praet0rian: haha, nah. Don't think I will ;)
[21:39]  * Praet0rian used rsync quite a bit
[21:40] <Praet0rian> little not about rsync, IT DOES NOT maintain permissions
[21:40] <propman> anth0ny:   have you tried putting quotes around the directory path.  the spaces in the path you quoted above may be the cause of the problem
[21:41] <yeats> anth0ny: propman is right - the spaces in the dir names are probably the issue - rsync is my preferred way of doing what you're doing, but that's up to you
[21:41] <anth0ny> propman: Bingo!  that did it, thanks!
[21:41] <anth0ny> yeats: I'll take a look at rsync, not familiar with it
[21:42] <Gentoo64> lol the backslashes always get people
[21:42] <cdavis> Does the deja dup schedule require that I keep deja-dup running?
[21:42] <propman> anth0ny:  good to hear :)
[21:42] <yeats> anth0ny: basic usage: 'rsync -av /sourcepath /destinationpath'
[21:43] <maujhsn> Can somebody please answer this question: Can a package from ubuntu 11.10 be downloaded and run in ubuntu 10.04?
[21:43] <jrib> maujhsn: sometimes, but you should never do so.  Why do you want to know?
[21:43] <Praet0rian> maujhsn, I dont see why not
[21:43] <dashavoo> maujhsn: it might work, it might not
[21:43] <Polah> Praet0rian, there's a flag to keep permissions.
[21:43] <Praet0rian> Polah, SH** lol
[21:43] <Praet0rian> didnt know that
[21:44] <Polah> Praet0rian: --perms or -p I believe (:
[21:44] <Praet0rian> was syncing a solaris box
[21:44] <maujhsn>  jrib i was given bad advice!
[21:44] <Praet0rian> omg thats awesome
[21:44] <jrib> maujhsn: ?
[21:44] <Polah> Praet0rian, also flags to keep owner and group
[21:44] <Praet0rian> cool Polah
[21:44] <Praet0rian> Polah, yea that would be correct cept sync with Solaris, not same users or perms
[21:46] <kylefox> I need to enable multiverse -- I know how to do it manually (editing /etc/apt/sources.list) but I'm wondering if there's a way I can automate it through a script
[21:47] <Praet0rian> kylefox, sure
[21:47] <Praet0rian> kylefox, easy shell script to echo your text to the sources list
[21:47] <maujhsn> Can somebody please answer this question: Can a package from ubuntu 11.10 be downloaded and run in ubuntu 10.04? If the repository is added to the sources list?
[21:48] <Praet0rian> maujhsn, they already answered that
[21:48] <kylefox> Praet0rian: oh ... I never thought of that
[21:48] <Praet0rian> ;-)
[21:48] <maujhsn> OK
[21:48] <kylefox> just `echo <source> >> file`
[21:48] <Praet0rian> kylefox, it depends what shell you're using
[21:49] <Praet0rian> bash?
[21:49] <Praet0rian> cash. zsh?
[21:49] <Praet0rian> csh*
[21:49] <Element9> how can I minimize the Empathy to the indicator applet or anywhere in the panels?
[21:50] <Praet0rian> click X Element9
[21:50] <Praet0rian> will not close it
[21:52] <Element9> Praet0rian: oh, it closed it :)
[21:52] <Praet0rian> kylefox, to send text to a file simply do this: echo '<string>' >> <filename>
[21:52] <Praet0rian> Element9, sorry thought you were using Unity
[21:52] <Praet0rian> Unity will minimize
[21:53] <wm4eo> hi
[21:53] <Element9> click on X on Contact List window of the Empathy will minimize it to indicator applet but not on window with chat rooms
[21:53] <Element9> Any way to do it on 10.10?
[21:53] <wm4eo> can any body help me with voice problem in ubuntu?
[21:54] <Praet0rian> Element9, sry not sure on that one
[21:54] <Praet0rian> wm4eo, just ask your question
[21:54] <Element9> Praet0rian: ok, no problem. thanks
[21:54] <wm4eo> the microphone is not working
[21:54] <Praet0rian> np
[21:54] <RnaGwaha> helllo anyone knows whats the brazilian ubuntu chan?
[21:55] <wm4eo> not in skype not in yahoo not in any ware
[21:55] <Praet0rian> wm4eo, open your sound settings and see what your input device is
[21:55] <triunenature> So i asked eariler, but if my NIC driver isn't working, how can i install/reinstall my NIC driver?
[21:56] <wm4eo> infact i am from windows now but i did and its not changing
[21:56] <Praet0rian> triunenature, how do you know your driver isnt working
[21:56] <triunenature> I don't for sure.  What I do know it, that the lights on my NIC don't light up when i plug in my cable, and i know my cable is good
[21:57] <triunenature> RJ-45 Cat5e
[21:57] <wm4eo> i've put external microphone and no one worked
[21:57] <ikonia> triunenature: the lights would come on even without a driver, or OS
[21:57] <ikonia> triunenature: if the lights are not coming on it's either a.) hardware issue b.) hardware issue at the other end c.) cable
[21:57] <Polah> !br | RnaGwaha
[21:58] <Praet0rian> wm4eo, try other things
[21:58] <wm4eo> like what?
[21:58] <triunenature> well, since when i plug the same cable into other computers, it lights up, I can assume both b and c are void
[21:58] <triunenature> That leaves me with hardware issue...
[21:58] <Praet0rian> wm4eo, there are no other options in the dropdown?
[21:59] <Praet0rian> to tell you the truth I still dont have a working MIC on my old Toshiba, but My alienware M17x works fine
[22:00] <wm4eo> i tryed every one nothing changed i even format my labtop and reinstel it and its not working
[22:00] <Praet0rian> wm4eo, have you tried the MIC port
[22:00] <wm4eo> yep
[22:00] <Hobart> What channel would be appropriate for issues seen when testing out Oneric on MacTel hw ?  (liveCD hangs)
[22:00] <triunenature> ikonia, any idea on how to confirm hardware issues?
[22:00] <Praet0rian> wm4eo, you have no internal MIC?
[22:00] <rww> Hobart: #ubuntu+1
[22:00] <Hobart> rww -> thx
[22:00] <Terabyte> what's wrong with this upstart script pair? http://pastebin.com/eJDHK1a1
[22:00] <wm4eo> i have one and i use it every day in my windows 7
[22:00] <Terabyte> memcached script won't autostart
[22:01] <ikonia> triunenature: well, is ubuntu the only OS on this machine ?
[22:01] <soulfulstrut> hello
[22:01] <triunenature> Yeppers
[22:01] <ikonia> triunenature: does lights light up on the other end (switch ?)
[22:01] <Praet0rian> wm4eo, heres the thing, if you only have the INTErNAL selection in your sound settings, it would assume you are using that and not external
[22:01] <ikonia> triunenature: do you have any other machines around ?
[22:02] <triunenature> I have about 30 machines around, im in an office ;)
[22:02] <Praet0rian> can you listen to audio via headphones wm4eo
[22:02] <sysRPL> hello
[22:02] <ikonia> triunenature: grab one and patch into that same port with that same cable, do the lights come on ?
[22:02] <datastream_> ohi
[22:02] <ikonia> triunenature: is that a big deal to test ?
[22:02] <wm4eo> no i cant listen from the headphones
[22:02] <triunenature> However I don't know where the telecom closet is, and i wouldn't have access to the switch.
[22:02] <Praet0rian> wm4eo, then the sound card is not working properly
[22:02] <triunenature> Yes, when i plug the same cable into any of the other computers, the lights come up
[22:03] <ikonia> triunenature: hardware problem
[22:03] <otak>  /goto home
[22:03] <ikonia> triunenature: lights = dumb, just a cable terminated at both ends, no OS, no anything,
[22:03] <wm4eo> but the sound out from the laptob speakers and i can hear it its just from the headphone i cant
[22:03] <ikonia> triunenature: if other computers are working, and this one computer isn't even getting any lights, I'd put a lot of money on a hardware issue
[22:03] <wm4eo> but any way how can i instel it?
[22:04] <Praet0rian> wm4eo, the sound card handles your external ports also
[22:04] <Terabyte> what's wrong with this upstart script pair? http://pastebin.com/eJDHK1a1 the memcached one doesn't start after the ufw one
[22:04] <wm4eo> how can i find a driver for it?
[22:04] <Praet0rian> wm4eo, get your sound card model and check manufactuer or search google for same issue
[22:04] <triunenature> ikonia: really... see i suspected the same, i just don't want my poor computer to be dying..... Is there any software test to confirm what we both know/suspect?
[22:04] <Praet0rian> wm4eo, have to know your hardware if you're using linux just a tip
[22:04] <ikonia> triunenature: you've pretty much just confirmed it
[22:05] <triunenature> :(
[22:05] <wm4eo> do u have any spicific website for that?
[22:05] <sysRPL> can someone please offer me some advice? i bought a new wireless router to upgrade from G to N but my ubuntu computer wireless only went from 54 MB/s to 65 MB/s ... not the performance increase i was expecting .... i've googled this problem and am exhausted ... what settings/software updates can i try to improve my MB/s rating?
[22:05] <Praet0rian> wm4eo, I do not know your manufacturer I cannot in any way know a web site for you
[22:06] <triunenature> ikonia: I'd perfer a program that outputs, "Yep your Network Interface Card is broken"
[22:06] <Praet0rian> search your laptop model
[22:06] <Praet0rian> this iwll give you harware spec
[22:06] <ikonia> triunenature: that's not going to happen
[22:06] <wm4eo> its realtak one second and i'll give u the model
[22:06] <Praet0rian> sysRPL, is your card an N card?
[22:06] <Praet0rian> or still G
[22:06] <triunenature> ikonia: Yea life never has been that simple.  Ironically enough, wifi still works without a hitch on the machine
[22:07] <Praet0rian> wm4eo, I am not going to do your research for you LoL, I am simply pointing you in the right direction
[22:07] <yacc> Any one here has experience with SATA? http://pastebin.com/LGASzQbv My Ubuntu (10.04LTS) seems to force the SSD down into SATA1 1.5Gbps mode.
[22:07] <sysRPL> Praet0rian: Atheros AR9285 802.11b/g/n
[22:07] <Praet0rian> yacc, sry have solid state here
[22:08] <Praet0rian> sysRPL, does your router have the 100MBs burts setting?
[22:08] <Praet0rian> I mean 108MB
[22:08] <wm4eo> sorry bro i thought u know a good web to get a drivers for linux will thank u and i have another problem if u r ok with it
[22:08] <sysRPL> Praet0rian: it's a linksys E2000
[22:08] <sysRPL> Praet0rian: i'm not sure, let me see
[22:08] <Praet0rian> sysRPL, look at doc
[22:08] <wm4eo> i get the kget and its working with firefox
[22:08] <Praet0rian> or simply login and look
[22:09] <cntb> Look at windows 8 blocking dual boot concern http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/will-windows-8-block-users-from-dual-booting-linux-microsoft-wont-say/10772?tag=nl.e550
[22:09] <sysRPL> Praet0rian: it has a frame burst radio button with enabled/disabled ... the value is set to enabled
[22:09] <Praet0rian> sysRPL, I have a testing solution for you
[22:09] <ikonia> cntb: why is that anything to do with this channel ?
[22:09] <Praet0rian> sysRPL, I can't believe I am going to suggest this but create a Virtual Machine with Windows XP
[22:10] <Polah> yacc: Are you sure your SSD is connected to a SATAII/I connector?
[22:10] <triunenature> cntb:  Just as a word of advice, linux guys will always outsmart windows guys.  So fear not
[22:10] <cntb> ikonia majority are dual booting
[22:10] <wm4eo> man did u get my question?
[22:10] <Praet0rian> sysRPL, test there
[22:10] <sysRPL> Praet0rian: ty ... btw i am on a windows computer right now
[22:10] <kasi_> does anyone know a good grammar checker besides openoffice for linux?
[22:10] <Praet0rian> wm4eo, sorry didnt get it
[22:10] <ikonia> cntb: is anyone in this channel asking for help dual booting windows 8 with Linux ?
[22:10] <cntb> triunenature right
[22:10] <Praet0rian> sysRPL, XP?
[22:10] <sysRPL> Praet0rian: yes
[22:10] <cntb> ikonia ok
[22:10] <wm4eo> i have the kget and its not working with firefox
[22:10] <ikonia> cntb: thank you
[22:11] <Praet0rian> wm4eo, I do not use kget
[22:11] <cntb> are you asking me to apologize? I do
[22:11] <wm4eo> what is the best downloader ?
[22:11] <Praet0rian> sysRPL, do you have an alternate card?
[22:11] <Praet0rian> wm4eo, firefox has its own download manager
[22:11] <ikonia> cntb: no, I said thank you as in "thank you for understanding"
[22:11] <Praet0rian> works fine
[22:11] <cntb> Still it sounds a bit of concern and people should know to stick to dual boot with older versions that;s all
[22:12] <Praet0rian> sysRPL, wait a min, your on windows and asking in a Linux forum? LoL
[22:12] <wm4eo> i know but i need one like internet download maneger in windows do u have one like that?
[22:12] <sysRPL> Praet0rian: the ubuntu is a close nettop box i use for my entertainment center pc ... i have alternbate wireless USB sticks ... but they are all wireless G
[22:12] <Praet0rian> dual boot windows 8 will NOT work, already tested
[22:12] <cntb>  i hope you accept my concern and will to share here
[22:12] <yacc> Polah, yeah, the connector was used before with the hdd that moved down the food chain to SATA connector num.2 on the MB, and then it did easily enough 3.0Gbps. The motherboard does 3.0Gbps with other 3 hdd connected to it just now. And the SSD is a SATA3 capable one, and the instruction leaflet does not mention any jumpers or so.
[22:12] <ikonia> cntb: 1.) it's not confirmed - so you're spreading rumour 2.) it's not released so no-one is using it at this time and things can change before release 3.) this channel is not about discusing future possabilities with windows, it's for current ubuntu support
[22:12] <Praet0rian> sysRPL, install virtual ubuntu into VMware
[22:12] <sysRPL> Praet0rian: i am on my windows computer because it's hard to read/type on the entertainment center computer (ubuntu)
[22:13] <cntb> ikonia Praet0rian says tested
[22:13] <Praet0rian> sysRPL, thats what SSH is for and text based IRC clients LoL
[22:13] <ikonia> cntb: that doesn't make it fact, please stop discussing it
[22:13] <Praet0rian> it is a fact
[22:13] <Praet0rian> want a video
[22:13] <Praet0rian> lol
[22:13] <ikonia> Praet0rian: no - it's not
[22:13] <sysRPL> Praet0rian: i can putty into the computer
[22:13] <ikonia> Praet0rian: no, I don't want a video
[22:13] <Praet0rian> how much you wanna bet
[22:13] <cntb> ok ikonia and why not prevent getting into trouble with our ubuntu install in the future?
[22:13] <soulfulstrut> can someone please tell me how to find the chat rooms
[22:13] <Polah> sysRPL: PuTTY is SSH
[22:13] <ikonia> Praet0rian: do you own Microsoft Windows 8 final retail release ?
[22:14] <cntb> never mind
[22:14] <sysRPL> Polah: i know
[22:14] <wm4eo> what is the best download maneger in ubuntu 11.04?
[22:14] <Polah> yacc: If you're sure it's on a SATAII(I) connector, then it could be a firmware issue with the drive
[22:14] <Praet0rian> ikonia, I have the next build after devel provided by my MS partners
[22:14] <Polah> wm4eo: Most browsers have their own download manager. You can use wget from the command line to download files.
[22:14] <Polah> !best | wm4eo
[22:14] <Praet0rian> there will only be one other build which is final
[22:14] <ikonia> Praet0rian: do you own Microsoft Windows 8 final retail release ?
[22:14] <ikonia> Praet0rian: do you own Microsoft Windows 8 final retail release ?
[22:14] <Praet0rian> ikonia, please listen
[22:14] <cntb> one more word and you will consider me a tr -oll and I dont wnat that .Have a nice day all
[22:14] <Praet0rian> I am trying to help
[22:15] <sysRPL> ikonia: windows 8 is not final, but you already knew that
[22:15] <Praet0rian> ikonia, I have the next to last build, the final build WILL NOT CHANGE the boot process
[22:15] <Praet0rian> case closed
[22:15] <wm4eo> k thank u guys
[22:15] <ikonia> Praet0rian: no - you do not have the facts of the final retail release, microsoft have not confirmed them, so please stop spreading information that is not confiemd
[22:15] <Praet0rian> ikonia, I do have the facts
[22:15] <ikonia> sysRPL: exactly the point.
[22:15] <Praet0rian> ould you also like to speak to a MS developer
[22:15] <Praet0rian> I can arrange
[22:16] <sysRPL> not to get side tracked, but windows 8 looks to be full of fail ... and that is coming from a windows developer
[22:16] <bl4ckcomb> MS Dev rocks
[22:16] <ikonia> Praet0rian: you do not have Microsoft Windows 8 final release, and Microsoft have not confirmed this limitation, so it's not fact, it's your view of a current development build that may/may not be fact.
[22:16] <Praet0rian> ikonia, I will say this one more time, the final release of windows 8 will NOT in any way change its booting process
[22:16] <Praet0rian> we can see when its released
[22:16] <sysRPL> anyhow ... can anyone help me improve my wirless N receive rate?
[22:16] <ikonia> Praet0rian: do you work for Microsoft ?
[22:16] <Praet0rian> good enough
[22:16] <Praet0rian> ?
[22:17] <Praet0rian> ikonia, yes
[22:17] <Praet0rian> I do
[22:17] <Praet0rian> do you
[22:17] <FloodBot1> Praet0rian: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:17] <ikonia> Praet0rian: it may well be the case when it's release, but until that time, it is not fact and it is not helpful to misslead people
[22:17] <ikonia> Praet0rian: you don't work for microsoft, you just said you got it for a partner, please don't lie
[22:17] <Praet0rian> ikonia, I am giving you the best information based on the facts at hand
[22:17] <ikonia> Praet0rian: the best information based on the current development build your using, that is not the final build,
[22:17] <Praet0rian> and as I said partner I meant my testers
[22:17] <sysRPL> you're
[22:18] <ikonia> Praet0rian: yeah yeah.
[22:18] <Praet0rian> ikonia, ok lets do this
[22:18] <ikonia> Praet0rian: I don't want/need to do anything.
[22:18] <Praet0rian> lets wait and see then we can discuss ok?
[22:18] <ikonia> Praet0rian: I don't want/need to discuss it
[22:18] <Praet0rian> apparently you do
[22:18] <Praet0rian> otherwise you ould have stopped tqalking
[22:18] <Praet0rian> ;-)
[22:18] <ikonia> you may be right, but at this time of writing, it is not fact, so please don't give out information.
[22:18] <J28y> oh, pick me, me, I wan't to discuss it too!!
[22:18] <bl4ckcomb> Praet0rian, weren't ms employees forbidden to use the name "windows 8", apart from balmer, who screwed up during some talk?
[22:18] <Praet0rian> fair enough
[22:19] <Praet0rian> bl4ckcomb, I am not aware of any such rule, but thats not to say it doesnt exist
[22:19] <Praet0rian> I use linux I hate windows
[22:19] <bl4ckcomb> I know, don't point out the obvious
[22:19] <Praet0rian> bl4ckcomb,  no need to be rude
[22:19] <Praet0rian> just answering
[22:20] <bl4ckcomb> :p
[22:20] <yacc> Polah, so you are surely happy to know that I upgrade to the newest OCZ firmware just today?
[22:20] <bl4ckcomb> Praet0rian, what's your role in MS?
[22:20] <IdleOne> !windows
[22:20] <Polah> yacc: Well, that could be the issue then. Has the drive not functioned properly since the upgrade?
[22:20] <yacc> Polah, as you can see from paste, I've also tried to force it to 3.0Gbps, but it downgraded the connection itself.
[22:21] <bl4ckcomb> IdleOne, I'm discussing Praet0rian
[22:21] <Praet0rian> c++ developer and winAPI QA bl4
[22:21] <bl4ckcomb> Praet0rian, c++ dev for the WinAPI ?
[22:21] <Praet0rian> no bl4ckcomb
[22:21] <bl4ckcomb> what part then or just general ?
[22:22] <Praet0rian> WinAPI QA
[22:22] <IdleOne> bl4ckcomb: this is an Ubuntu support channel. Please stick to the topic.
[22:22] <yacc> Polah, no it did the same thing before (although I haven't tried to force it on boot into 3.0Gbps, but it defaulted to 1.5Gbps while all other drives use 3.0Gbps), as OCZ has claimed the SMART warnings that one had to ignore are gone.
[22:22] <Polah> !offtopic | Praet0rian bl4ckcomb
[22:22] <Praet0rian> bl4ckcomb, c++ for porting apps to MS use
[22:22] <Praet0rian> Im done lol
[22:22] <Praet0rian> had to answer him
[22:22] <IdleOne> no you didn't now stop.
[22:22] <bl4ckcomb> ah k (done too) :]
[22:22] <Polah> yacc: Hmm, I don't really know then. Perhaps call up OCZ, or ask in #hardware.
[22:23] <gnomie> should i remove flash before updating the installer [flashpplugin-installer 10.3.183.10ubuntu0.11.04.1]
[22:23] <bl4ckcomb> do ssd's work ootb for ubuntu?
[22:23] <TheEvilPhoenix> Polah:  s/#hardware/##hardware/
[22:23] <bl4ckcomb> *SSDs
[22:23] <yacc> Wow, Google already has my paste from 12 minutes ago, ...
[22:23] <Praet0rian> gnomie, wont hurt to update
[22:23] <Polah> TheEvilPhoenix, huh?
[22:24] <TheEvilPhoenix> Polah:  the channel isn't #hardware  -  its ##hardware
[22:24] <TheEvilPhoenix> it might still forward, but meh
[22:24] <Polah> TheEvilPhoenix: Oh. #hardware forwards for me.
[22:24] <sunice> After that way off topic conversation about Win 8 some people should check out this poster http://gizmodo.com/5838803/whats-your-internet-dick-level
[22:24] <sunice> Sorry I know still off topic
[22:24] <rww> sunice: so why did you say it?
[22:24] <Praet0rian> If anyone is interested also, I have some procedures to tether android to Ubuntu
[22:24] <TheEvilPhoenix> !offtopic > sunice
[22:25] <Praet0rian> wow you guys argure about topic more then my 2600 crew
[22:25] <kensum> Hello everyone; If I put in a new motherboard, cpu, and ram, can I then reconect my drives and boot into ubuntu? Will it reconfigure the new hardware?
[22:26] <c4pt> hi i am having problems with audio        i have 4 different audio devices       snd-usb , snd-emu10k1 (usb and creative pci) and i have also hdmi audio and ALC onboard audio (these two devices use snd-hda-intel)
[22:26] <Praet0rian> unreal
[22:26] <c4pt> is this right options snd-usb-audio index=-2
[22:26] <c4pt> options snd-emu10k1 index=-2
[22:26] <c4pt> options snd-pcm index=0
[22:26] <c4pt> options snd-hda-intel=0
[22:26] <Combatjuan> Hello.  What things can the DISPLAY variable be set to such that I can open a GUI application from a tty?
[22:26] <FloodBot1> c4pt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:27] <yacc> Polah, fascinating detail, seems because I forced it and it switched back, the SSD was slower than the HDDs registering itself, and it moved from /dev/sda to /dev/sdd => I feel so happy that we've started using LVM or UUIDs, I remember when such a thing could upset the whole system back then ;)
[22:27] <Meluha> guys my playonlinux never detects an internet connection. any leads?
[22:27] <J28y> Praet0rian: you don't increase your credibility by sta
[22:28] <bl4ckcomb> sta?
[22:28] <Praet0rian> J28y, I've helped alot of people here
[22:28] <J28y> ting more unprobable facts
[22:28] <macer1> does ubuntu display info on plymouth when coming from hibernate?
[22:28] <muay-guy> hello everyone, today I installed virtualenv, some python packages and python 2.7.2 and now every time I open a console I get the following message:
[22:28] <Praet0rian> J28y, thats nonsense, yacc was talking harware, didnt see him booted
[22:28] <muay-guy> http://pastebin.com/UQTm9LS5
[22:29] <Polah> kensum: RAM shouldn't be an issue, your processor may well be if it's a different architecture, motherboard may work generically but you may need to get additional drivers for some things like ethernet.
[22:30] <sysRPL> i am seeing a lot of google results for asking about only getting 65 MB/s out of their wireless N on various linux versions
[22:30] <Polah> Praet0rian, yacc was discussing why his drive isn't functioning properly. Stop with the petty arguments, if you want help or intend to actually help people then stay, if not: leave.
[22:30] <sysRPL> i am seeing a lot of google results with people asking about only getting 65 MB/s out of their wireless N on various linux versions
[22:30] <sysRPL> * corrected *
[22:30] <Praet0rian> sysRPL, are there any solutins?
[22:30] <sysRPL> no
[22:31] <Praet0rian> sysRPL, this did happen to me once, I got a new card and that fixed it
[22:31] <sysRPL> does anyone here have a working wireless N network? can you tell me you MB/s?
[22:32] <sysRPL> this is a nettop pc
[22:32] <Praet0rian> sysRPL, did you read this http://www.hitxp.com/articles/software/ubuntu-fix-slow-wireless-internet-connection-speed-upgrading-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[22:32] <gnomie> is it recommended to remove current flash before updating the installer [flashpplugin-installer 10.3.183.10ubuntu0.11.04.1]
[22:32] <Praet0rian> gnomie, I had no issues with installing it over top
[22:33] <Praet0rian> gnomie, it just replaces the flash libs
[22:33] <kylefox> Praet0rian: I'm back :) I seem to be having permission issues with that multiverse thing you suggested: http://dpaste.com/619247/ -- any ideas?
[22:33] <Praet0rian> let me look kylefox
[22:34] <Praet0rian> use single quotes kylefox
[22:34] <Praet0rian> kylefox, are you executing this as sh myScript?
[22:34] <kylefox> yes, exactly
[22:35] <kylefox> the single quotes = same issue
[22:35] <kasi_> I get kernel crashes in ubuntu with autofs. Is this the right forum to report them?
[22:35] <Praet0rian> kylefox, do this, create an empty file in your home, then run it
[22:35] <Praet0rian> dont use sources yet
[22:35] <Meluha> My playonlinux never detects an internet connection....any leads?
[22:36] <Praet0rian> kylefox, also just a tip if you don't want to use "sh" to execute, put !#/bin/bash in the file
[22:37] <Praet0rian> kylefox, also would be wise to set that string as a variable then echo it to stdout to see if its correct
[22:37] <Polah> Praet0rian: Needs to be marked as executable as well. sh script.sh will run it even if it's not executable, script.sh on it's own requires it to be set to executable
[22:37] <Praet0rian> kylefox, Polah is correct too, I assumed you set +x
[22:38] <Polah> Praet0rian, kylefox: I'd recommend using sh script.sh anyway because then it's run by by sh and doesn't require it to be set as executable beforehand
[22:39] <kylefox> Yes, I did chmod +x
[22:39] <Praet0rian> luck?
[22:39] <Hobbes`> I'm getting these dbus errors http://pastebin.com/tYee1HzR when I try to run bluez-simple-agent.. the bluetooth adapter is present and working using hcitool/sdptool/hciconfig etc
[22:39] <Hobbes`> but I can't paid any device because the agent won't work
[22:39] <Hobbes`> pair*
[22:40] <Hobbes`> also notice the errors are different when I run the agent as regular user and as root
[22:40] <kylefox> no, this doesn't help :/
[22:40] <Praet0rian> kylefox, did you do waht I said
[22:40] <Praet0rian> kylefox, instead of the destination as the sources list, try to echo to a home directory file
[22:40] <kylefox> I created an empty file and ran it ... and it did nothing (as one might expect)
[22:41] <kylefox> oh, I see what you mean. I'll try
[22:42] <kylefox> yes, it works
[22:42] <kylefox> also
[22:42] <kylefox> if I run `sudo su` and then run my echo command, it works
[22:42] <Praet0rian> kylefox, for which one, home or sources?
[22:43] <kylefox> sources
[22:43] <kylefox> (not running as a script though)
[22:43] <Praet0rian> kylefox, ok so it works then
[22:43] <Praet0rian> OH
[22:43] <Praet0rian> oh you did from term
[22:43] <Praet0rian> instead of script
[22:43] <kylefox> ie: this works: http://dpaste.com/619250/
[22:43] <kylefox> yep, running as terminal commands
[22:44] <Praet0rian> kylefox, ok so we know the script is sound
[22:44] <kylefox> however, the first example (http://dpaste.com/619247/) works neither from the terminal, nor from within the script
[22:44] <Praet0rian> kylefox, what error do you get when you ran that first one
[22:44] <Praet0rian> permission denied?
[22:44] <kylefox> -bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[22:45] <kylefox> i actually have to run -- gotta get to class
[22:45] <SIFTU> kylefox: you are trying to run it as a normal user?
[22:45] <kylefox> thanks for your help!
[22:45] <w30> Is 2 gig of memory insufficent for suspend function of Unity and Compiz?  Do I need more memory or perhaps a better graphics card? GForce  GO 7300
[22:45] <kylefox> (yes)
[22:45] <Praet0rian> kylefox, you cannt run it as norm
[22:45] <SIFTU> kylefox: sudo will ask for a password
[22:45] <Praet0rian> SIFTU, he's already done that
[22:45] <Praet0rian> SIFTU, we are way ahead of that
[22:45] <Praet0rian> lol
[22:45] <kylefox> i'm using a ubuntu EC2 ami, which doesn't appear to ask for passwords when doing sudo operations
[22:45] <SIFTU> Praet0rian: I came in late.. done what
[22:46]  * kylefox is away
[22:46] <Praet0rian> kylefox, then thats why you cant run it
[22:46] <Praet0rian> it needs to be setuid 0
[22:46] <teddyroosebelt> howdy folks - is there any other alternatives to krecipe and grecipe for recipe software out there?
[22:46] <MTPrower> Hiya awesome fun peeps. I need some basic Kubuntu help. I installed Kubuntu, but Windows still boots, with no boot options for Kubuntu or anything. How do I get Kubuntu to boot on startup?
[22:46] <smw> kylefox, ec2 is setup to not require a password for sudo
[22:46] <Praet0rian> kylefox, you of course cannot write to protected files without root privs
[22:49] <Bash> Is there a grub gui of some sorts? ran into confirmed bug on startupmanager on 11.04
[22:49] <Ibis> In comparison, would unity be better in performance compared to ubuntu classic?
[22:50] <MTPrower> Hey, how do I get Kubuntu as a boot option on startup?
[22:50] <nocilis> Ibis it ran slower on my machine
[22:50] <joshy> Using intel HD graphics, my external display is very shaky at all resolutions.  Are there any known fixes?
[22:51] <nocilis> Ibis Unity that is
[22:51] <brightspark> MTPrower: If I recall correctly, when I did it, the option appears at the bottom of the login screen (at least on maverick)
[22:51] <MTPrower> brightspark: what login screen?
[22:52] <Ibis> Unity seems to be behaving rather well for me.
[22:52] <nocilis> Ibis yes, my machine was not top of the line and Unity ran a bit slower
[22:52] <Ibis> I'm only sad that I do not see unity icons on the left-side tray.
[22:52] <brightspark> the gnome session manager login screen.  I installed a kubuntu desktop as an alternative to my gnome one.
[22:53] <brightspark> MTPrower: see my last
[22:53] <Ibis> My machine is super old. I'm talking about 8+ years.
[22:53] <nocilis> brightspark that wouldn't be a boot option
[22:53] <nocilis> Ibis yes, mine too
[22:53] <MTPrower> brightspark: I think you misunderstood my question. When I start my computer, Windows automatically boots, with no option to boot Kubuntu
[22:53] <nocilis> Ibis but mine was a netbook
[22:54] <brightspark> nocilis: yes, because the same kernel runs independent of the desktop choice
[22:54] <brightspark> MTPrower: I did misunderstand your question, sorry.
[22:54] <Bash> Can I flag a NTFS drive to NOT chkdsk (even if problems) when booting up through windows?
[22:55] <nocilis> brightspark all desktops run on X, right?
[22:55] <Chotaz> How can I have 64 bits flash support on google chrome on ubuntu 11.04, right now whenever I try to watch an hd movie in fullscreen from youtube it just jumps and skips throughout the playback
[22:55] <wildbat> Bash: no and why you wanna do that ? also ask in ##windows
[22:55] <Meluha> hey my playonlinux cant detect internet connection
[22:56] <Meluha> do i need to edit resolv.conf?
[22:57] <GreekFreak> Hello. My ATI card is not supported. I have found this (http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/xorg-edgers?dist=natty#) but I'm not surewhich packages I need to install.
[22:57] <dirtycookie> hi I have a eeepc where I have the latest xubuntu installed. the eeepc has a sdmmc slot where I want to mount a sdcard I followed these instructions here http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=44013 and rebooted to make things take their effect. during booting  xubuntu offered me to "skip" the mounting proceedure. my question is how can I make it mount automatically my card
[22:57] <Praet0rian> Meluha, are you trying to run windows apps
[22:57] <Meluha> Praet0rian: yes
[22:57] <Praet0rian> Meluha, I would suggest VMware
[22:57] <rww> GreekFreak: read https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[22:58] <brightspark> nocilis: I'm not sure, but my guess is that those that don't are refew and far between
[22:59] <Meluha> Praet0rian: i do have VM but i need office to be installed..its quicker than creating a shared folder and booting xp all the while
[22:59] <Praet0rian> Meluha, you dont need a shared folder
[22:59] <Praet0rian> Meluha, you install the entier windows OS
[23:00] <GreekFreak> rww, thank you but I have no idea what to do with that. Am I supposed to install them one by one? Are they included?
[23:00] <rww> GreekFreak: If you read the whole page, it tells you.
[23:00] <Praet0rian> Meluha, then with vmware tools you simply drag it to the VM
[23:00] <GreekFreak> rww, thank you
[23:00] <rww> GreekFreak: if you read the whole page and don't understand the instructions it gives, it's probably too unstable for you to be using it :\
[23:00] <rww> xorg-edgers is a bit... crack.
[23:01] <Meluha> Praet0rian:can u drag and drop ?
[23:01] <Praet0rian> Meluha, absolutely, when installing windows to VMWare it will install VMWare tools enabling you to drag and drop from your linux host
[23:02] <Bash> Can someone tell me what seems to be the problem here? I have 3 disks as you can see and it's a bit messy, but trying to boot from sdc while having windows on sda, also have xforcevesa but all I get when booting is a blank screen with a blinking cursor.
[23:02] <Bash> http://paste.ubuntu.com/695359/
[23:03] <Meluha> Praet0rian: hey thats cool. thanks a lot. but that again brings me back to the original question of using POL. i do wish to in future install various apps. how am i supposed to do it if POL doesnt have a list of softwares due to it not being able to get connected to the net?
[23:03] <GreekFreak> rww, I'm assuming that this is covered by including the repository. The sute I pasted, though, has some packages to install and I'm not sure which are needed
[23:04] <Praet0rian> Meluha, then we simply need to run through standard internet connection tests
[23:05] <Praet0rian> Meluha, first check if you get an IP, if so, check an nslookup to check DNS
[23:05] <Colourful> hi
[23:05] <Colourful> I have an ATI GTX card
[23:05] <Colourful> what's the easiest way to get two monitors working with it
[23:05] <Colourful> it's a laptop with an extra display connected to it
[23:06] <Colourful> and I would like to output a different worksace to the other display
[23:07] <GreekFreak> Let me rephrase my question: For xorg-edgers and an unsupported ATI card, could someone indicate which packages (other than "ati") I need from http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/xorg-edgers?dist=natty#  ?
[23:07] <Meluha> Praet0rian: can i run nslookup in terminal?
[23:08] <Praet0rian> Meluha, yes nslookup google.com
[23:10] <Meluha> Praet0rian:
[23:10] <Meluha> Praet0rian:
[23:10] <Praet0rian> what
[23:10] <Meluha> Praet0rian: yup its given me a couple of IP addresses
[23:10] <Praet0rian> then you your internet is working properly
[23:10] <xangua> GreekFreak: if you already read it and don't get it, better don't try it
[23:11] <milk> i'm looking for an irc bouncer setup that can stream to me text (in either a generic irc client or a specific (gui, preferably) one) missed in certain channels whilst i'm not on at home, wondering if this possible?
[23:11] <Colourful> I tried googling but all the guides are for old versions of ubuntu
[23:11] <Praet0rian> Meluha, you cannot have DNS working without IP, DefaultRoute
[23:11] <Praet0rian> so you obviously are good
[23:11] <GreekFreak> xanga: is there somewhere else I could read to learn about it? right now I'm booting linux with "nomodeset"
[23:12] <GreekFreak> simply not doing it doesn't help. I need to learn it
[23:12] <Meluha> Praet0rian: sorry?
[23:12] <jwrigley> ?
[23:13] <Praet0rian> Meluha, hold on
[23:13] <SIFTU> milk: most people run text based irc clients in screen sessions on 24x7 server and read over the logs
[23:13]  * Praet0rian loves BitchX
[23:14] <bindi> irssi!
[23:14] <Guest76357> irssi!
[23:14] <yeats> Meluha: irssi + screen: http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi
[23:14] <SIFTU> weechat for me, but all personal preference
[23:15] <yeats> Meluha: sorry - meant for milk ;-)
[23:16] <phelippe> Hello there, anyone can help me fix my quake 3 arena sound? i got this msg: /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[23:16] <phelippe> Could not open /dev/dsp
[23:16] <Meluha> yeats: ;)
[23:17] <milk> SIFTU;  using screen is my second option, but i thought i'd ask about in case :)
[23:17] <Praet0rian> Meluha, are you saying for example a POL app like firefox cant get online?
[23:17] <milk> yeats; thanks, shall read up :)
[23:17] <Praet0rian> Meluha, Firefox for windos that is
[23:19] <Meluha> Praet0rian: no not really. in POL u need to select the app from the lists, which u wish to install. but those lists are not being downloaded as POL doesnt deetect an internet connection.
[23:19] <usr13> phelippe: lsof |grep snd
[23:20] <Praet0rian> Meluha, its simply a wine frontend
[23:20] <Praet0rian> Meluha, let me check something
[23:21] <mrdeb> is wine any good
[23:21] <usr13> phelippe: And then kill the pid
[23:21] <usr13> or pids
[23:21] <phelippe> can i paste here?
[23:21] <angel56> mrdeb: if it is aged properly
[23:21] <usr13> no
[23:21] <Ibis> mrdeb: I personally would rather use virtualbox.
[23:21] <SetiAmon> cool
[23:21] <usr13> phelippe: lsof |grep snd | pastebinit
[23:21] <SetiAmon> I have perfect audio now
[23:21] <mrdeb> whats the difference
[23:21] <SetiAmon> with my X-fi
[23:21] <mrdeb> i read wine is very bad
[23:21] <Praet0rian> VMware better than virtual box
[23:21] <Praet0rian> imo
[23:22] <phelippe> usr13: here appear skype and npviewer use libsndfile
[23:22] <Ibis> mrdeb: Especially if you have a lot of ram.            The difference is that you install "Real Windows" inside virtualbox.
[23:22] <mrdeb> so tis bad
[23:22] <mrdeb> is htat it
[23:22] <Ibis> Praet0rian: What makes it better? I get many reports of people whining about the speed of VMWare.
[23:23] <Meluha> Praet0rian: http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/421-install-ms-office2007-on-ubuntu-using-playonlinux
[23:23] <Praet0rian> Ibis, for one I can install MAC on it, 2 vmware tools makes things easier, and yes you need some ram, but nevertheless o run windows you will be using the same ram
[23:23] <phelippe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/695375/
[23:23] <xangua> !appdb
[23:23] <xangua> mrdeb: depends of what program are you trying to run, we are not wizards to know that
[23:24] <Meluha> Praet0rian: the site shows that MS office 07 is listed in the Office category.....but for me the category lists are empty
[23:25] <Praet0rian> Meluha, yea I am looking into it compiling irssi real quick
[23:25] <phelippe> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/695375/
[23:27] <Ibis> Praet0rian: Is it free like Virtualbox?
[23:27] <Praet0rian> Ibis, well...yea..for me, but no
[23:28] <SIFTU> Praet0rian: and you know virtualbox has virtualbox additions right.. like vmware tools
[23:28] <Praet0rian> SIFTU, yea I have used VB for a while
[23:28] <Praet0rian> prior to VMware
[23:29] <Praet0rian> SIFTU, try to install MAC on VirtualBOx and see how far you get lol
[23:29] <SIFTU> Praet0rian: and you know virtualbox can run Mac too, but only on a Mac due to the hardware check they have
[23:29] <phelippe> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/695375/
[23:29] <Praet0rian> Well that defeats the purpose for I run linux
[23:30] <phelippe> Hello there, anyone can help me fix my quake 3 arena sound? i got this msg: /dev/dsp: No such file or directory - http://paste.ubuntu.com/695375/
[23:30] <Ibis> Praet0rian: With Mac hardware? O_O
[23:30] <Praet0rian> Ibis, no
[23:30] <Praet0rian> Ibis, Intel Arch
[23:31] <Ibis> I sometimes wonder if Linux would run better on mac hardware.
[23:31] <Praet0rian> Ibis, blashpemy
[23:31] <Praet0rian> haha
[23:31] <Ibis> Or if it's possible.
[23:31] <Praet0rian> Ibis, I would not think so
[23:32] <SIFTU> Ibis: it does work
[23:32] <Praet0rian> Ibis, I have never tried so I cannot account for that question
[23:32] <nocilis> yes, I know a guy that dual-boots linux and osx on a mac
[23:32] <MonkeyDust> anyone who has heard of and knows a solution for the kworker bug? http://askubuntu.com/questions/33640/kworker-what-is-it-and-why-is-it-hogging-so-much-cpu
[23:32] <Praet0rian> I would have thought the hardware was too different
[23:33] <Ibis> SIFTU: Oh cool. Does it seem to run any better? I heard mac hardwares are better than PC ones.
[23:33] <nocilis> praet0rian linux has been ported everwhere
[23:33] <jorge__> hey I install ubuntu with windows 7 and it loads ubuntu but does not load windows
[23:33] <Praet0rian> nocilis, thats cool to know, I just would never buy a mac period
[23:33] <SIFTU> Ibis: it's no better, same parts.. some people like to think it's better build quality etc
[23:33] <nocilis> praet0rian me neither, too expensive for what you get
[23:33] <nocilis> jorge__ which did you install first?
[23:34] <jorge__> can any body tell me what can i do
[23:34] <Ibis> And I thought I read something about mac hardware where it actually uses all harddrive/ram space.
[23:34] <Praet0rian> jorge__, you can boot windows from Grub
[23:34] <MonkeyDust> anyone who has heard of and knows a solution for the kworker bug? http://askubuntu.com/questions/33640/kworker-what-is-it-and-why-is-it-hogging-so-much-cpu
[23:34] <jorge__> i do it but it does the same thing (praet0rian )}
[23:34] <jorge__> i tell me and erro message
[23:34] <Praet0rian> jorge__, you must be sure that your windows partition is active and bootable
[23:35] <nocilis> jorge__ what sort of message?
[23:35] <jorge__> and how do i make sure is active
[23:35] <Praet0rian> jorge__, have you installed linux before?
[23:35] <jorge__> erro 0xc0000225
[23:36] <guerrilha> my wireless connection keeps asking my password, how do i fix this so it only asks me the first time?
[23:36] <guerrilha> i mean, when i boot up the cpter i have to insert the passwrd again
[23:36] <guerrilha> but i stay connected
[23:36] <nocilis> jorge__ I just googled that and it looks like a very common problem
[23:36] <nocilis> jorge__ probably because bios is out of date?
[23:37] <Praet0rian> guerrilha, that happened to me once, I did never resolve that issue
[23:37] <nocilis> try checking for an APIC setting in the bios options jorge__
[23:37] <guerrilha> its getting annoying
[23:37] <nocilis> jorge__ you have to enable APIC it looks like
[23:37] <SIFTU> guerrilha: do you autologin?
[23:37] <Praet0rian> guerrilha, I searched for days for a solution to that never did find it
[23:38] <Praet0rian> I just compiled irssi and I cannot find the damn binary for the life of me
[23:38] <Bash> Just wondering, is there a reason why Gnome is no longer the default wm?
[23:38] <nocilis> Praet0rian find piped to grep?
[23:39] <Praet0rian> yea I was going to do that but I figured someone would know off hand
[23:39] <nocilis> find | grep -e "irssi"
[23:39] <rww> Bash: GNOME is not a WM. GNOME with modifications is the default desktop environment for Ubuntu, and always has been. The difference you're probably talking about is that it now uses Unity as a shell instead of GNOME Panel or GNOME Shell.
[23:39] <xangua> Bash: unity runs on top of gnome
[23:39] <guerrilha> no SIFTU , this ubuntu has 3 users
[23:39] <Praet0rian> nocilis, actually find /dir -name file works
[23:39] <Meluha> Praet0rian: any leads?
[23:39] <SIFTU> guerrilha: I suspect something to do with the gnome keyring
[23:39] <nocilis> Praet0rian more elegant, I'll remember that thx
[23:39] <Praet0rian> np nocilis
[23:39] <Bash> rww: Right. Just wondered if there's any drawbacks to using gnome3 vs unity as it is the default one
[23:40] <rww> Bash: GNOME 3 isn't supported on current versions of Ubuntu ( <= 11.04). It should work fine on 11.10 when it comes out.
[23:40] <Praet0rian> Meluha, let me get irssi working here real quik
[23:40] <Bash> rww: Thanks.
[23:40] <Praet0rian> I could just make isntall it but I dont like to put apps in my bin
[23:40] <brightspark> rww: it ran fine for me on maverick...
[23:40]  * nocilis is using irssi to type this :)
[23:41] <Praet0rian> nocilis, eat me lol
[23:41] <Chotaz> Hey everyone I'm using 'sudo update-rc.d ushare defaults' to make the ushare daemon start everytime I boot my computer, but I need ushare to run with some adicional params, how can I run update-rc.d and pass those params to the rule?
[23:41] <flodine> 11.10 so ugly
[23:41] <nocilis> Praet0rian why not just sudo apt-get install irssi?
[23:41] <MonkeyDust> irssi rules
[23:41] <Praet0rian> nocilis, repositories are always out of date
[23:41] <Anarchy7> how can I open a port whats the command?
[23:41] <Praet0rian> latest build is src
[23:41] <nocilis> MonkeyDust I liked it once I figured out the alt-arrowkey command
[23:41] <rww> brightspark: Are you conflating GNOME 3 and GNOME Shell?
[23:41] <Ibis> nocilis & MonkeyDust: WeeChat is better. ;)
[23:41] <guerrilha> i found here that i can delete it from my .gnome folder, ill give a shot
[23:41] <nocilis> Ibis is it console-based?
[23:41] <Ibis> Yes.
[23:41] <Praet0rian> I ran Bitchx forever
[23:42] <Praet0rian> but someone on here convinced me to try irssi
[23:42] <Ibis> Lookies: http://www.weechat.org/screenshots/
[23:42] <Ibis> I used to use irssi myself as well.
[23:42] <nocilis> Ibis looks a whole lot like irssi, anything to set it apart?
[23:42] <Praet0rian> HA
[23:42] <Praet0rian> there that little bugger is
[23:43] <Ibis> http://www.weechat.org/screenshots/weechat_2009-07-06_bonzodog.png
[23:43] <Praet0rian> /home/praetorian/Apps/irssi/src/fe-text/irssi for furure reference
[23:43] <SIFTU> nocilis: it has multiple languages supported for scripts and has easier config files etc
[23:43] <Ibis> How it handles user list, multi network is easier.
[23:43] <brightspark> rww: perhaps I am.  you are probably correct
[23:43] <nocilis> Ibis SIFTU shows people in channel at top, I like
[23:44] <Ibis> nocilis: I didn't even know it can do that. It attracted my eyes.
[23:44] <Praet0rian> hahah I love it when apps tell you to RTFM when you first rin em
[23:45] <nocilis> RTFM? Praet0rian
[23:45] <Praet0rian> umm
[23:45] <Praet0rian> Read the fuc*** manual
[23:45] <Ibis> Read the *Explodes Ubuntu channel* :OOO
[23:45] <MonkeyDust> Praet0rian: if everything else fails, then RTFM
[23:45] <nocilis> Praet0rian lol hadn't heard that one
[23:45] <Praet0rian> wow
[23:45] <Ibis> Or it means: Read the Fine Manual.
[23:45] <gnomie> #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[23:45] <Praet0rian> I heard that alot hen I first started using linux 10 years ago
[23:45] <nocilis> Read the fruitcakin' manual
[23:46] <gnomie> also, this isn't i.m.
[23:46] <Ibis> Praet0rian: Same here, except I didn't use this 10years ago. (I was tiny o_O)
[23:46] <flodine> be nice ubuntu has nice users
[23:46] <Praet0rian> well Mr Praetorian is going to sign on with irssi WITHOUT READING THE MANUAL
[23:46] <flodine> LOL
[23:46] <elky> Lets not.
[23:46] <elky> Lets go back to actual support discussion.
[23:47] <nocilis> curious about the nick praet0rian
[23:47] <Praet0rian> nocilis, ask away
[23:47] <nocilis> why?
[23:47] <elky> Ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:48] <Bash> If grub should fail because of wonky ATi gpu support, will it just sit there with a blinking cursor on a blank screen?
[23:48] <nocilis> that you Praet0rian? http://twitter.com/#!/praet0rian
[23:48] <Praet0rian> dont use twitter or cia facebook
[23:48] <Praet0rian> haha
[23:48] <elky> nocilis, he's in #ubuntu-offtopic which is where non-support chatter happens. Asking him about twitter is offtopic for this support channel
[23:48] <nocilis> elky ok
[23:48] <Praet0rian> man lol topic nazis
[23:49] <Praet0rian> I am over there nocilis
[23:49] <elky> Praet0rian, don't even go there.
[23:49] <Praet0rian> I didnt its a figment of your imagination
[23:49] <gnomie> he has, twice already
[23:49] <Praet0rian> its all good I go over there
[23:50] <nocilis> irssi automatically opens a seperate screen for msgs, does weechat do that Ibis?
[23:51] <Ibis> nocilis: Separate screen. Like a tab?
[23:51] <Bash> I guess that's the reason for a faulty grub since all I did was add xforcevesa
[23:51] <tabunet> Good evening everyone from Spain ;)
[23:51] <nocilis> Ibis, umm yes
[23:51] <nocilis> Ibis not sure what the official term is
[23:51] <Ibis> A new terminal screen, or same terminal screen?
[23:52] <Praet0rian> nocilis, its called windowing
[23:52] <Ibis> It would appear in the same terminal window, but as a different tab. Separate message screen (BUT in same terminal window).
[23:53] <Ibis> What I mean by tab is that /window <numberHere> thing.
[23:53] <nocilis> Ibis the same terminal screen... it's hard to explain
[23:53] <nocilis> Ibis you use ALT+arrowkey to move between them, but each one takes up the whole screen
[23:53] <Ibis> nocilis: Yes it does that.
[23:54] <MTPrower> Hey guys, all my attempts at dual-booting Kubuntu and my existing installation of Windows 7 are failing. Can somebody give me some very basic, step-by-step information?
[23:55] <nocilis> MTPrower the Kubuntu installer doesn't walk you through it? Where are you having problems?
[23:55] <MTPrower> Actually, ideally, I don't even want to use Windows 7. I just want to get Kubuntu working on my hard drive without losing my many gigs of files. I've been reading for the last two days and trying all sorts of stuff
[23:56] <MTPrower> nocilis: even a successful installation of Kubuntu won't boot for some reason...
[23:56] <sunice> MTPrower: before making any major changes backup your data.
[23:56] <nocilis> MTPrower I second what sunice just said
[23:56] <MTPrower> sunice: not possible for me
[23:56] <MTPrower> nocilis: I second what I just said
[23:56] <MTPrower> xD
[23:57] <smw> MTPrower, define not boot
[23:57] <MTPrower> nocilis: if I could just back up all my stuff, I could start from scratch and life would be easy. But I can't
[23:57] <sunice> MtProwers: what happens when you try to boot it? do you get grub?
[23:57] <nocilis> MTPrower Murphy's Law says you will definitely loose all of your files, it's happened to me
[23:57] <gnomie> MTPrower: reinstall grub
[23:57] <nocilis> *lose
[23:57] <MTPrower> smw: I don't have an option to boot Kubuntu at system startup. It just boots Windows
[23:57] <Loshki> MTPrower: if you can't backup your data, eventually you're going to lose it in a hardware failure of some kind....
[23:57] <smw> MTPrower, did you install grub to your boot sector?
[23:57] <MTPrower> gnomie: I don't have Grub and can't figure out how to use it. They don't give you any information on the official Grub website
[23:58] <sunice> MTProwers did you finish the install of kubuntu with grb?
[23:58] <gnomie> !grub
[23:58] <smw> MTPrower, did kubuntu ask if you wanted to install grub? Did you say no?
[23:58] <MTPrower> smw: no. I couldn't even figure out if I wanted it, due to so little information being given about it
[23:58] <nocilis> kbuntu should come with grub right?
[23:58] <MTPrower> smw: it did not ask
[23:58] <Praetorian0> irssi not bad
[23:59] <sunice> MTProwers. you can install grub only from an ubuntu live cd.
[23:59] <MTPrower> So what is Grub and why do I want it, and if I get it, will I lose all my stuff on my Windows partition?
[23:59] <smw> nocilis, yes, but I thought it asks first. I don't use ubiquity. I like the debian installer better :-P.
[23:59] <MTPrower> sunice: I have Kubuntu on a flash drive
[23:59] <MTPrower> sunice: it never said anything about Grub
[23:59] <smw> MTPrower, Grub is the boot loader. It chooses which OS to boot.
[23:59] <sunice> MTProwers: try reading this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351