[00:18] <charlie-tca> I started entire disk on both 386 and amd64 desktop cd's
[00:21] <GridCube> i zsyncking
[01:17] <GridCube> what desktop i386 test should i do?
[01:21] <charlie-tca> resize?
[01:21] <charlie-tca> or manual partitioning
[01:21] <charlie-tca> which one do you want to do?
[01:21] <GridCube> anyone will do
[01:22] <GridCube> will do manual partitioning if thats ok
[01:25] <charlie-tca> That's great!
[01:26] <charlie-tca> and software center works in Oneiric now
[01:28] <micahg> \o/
[01:45] <GridCube> the doubleclicking bug doesnt repeat
[01:50] <charlie-tca> It doesn't?
[01:50] <GridCube> no
[01:50] <charlie-tca> I forget to test for it
[01:50] <GridCube> i double cliked, and double cliked and i could go back and change stuff again
[01:50] <charlie-tca> Great!
[01:50] <GridCube> im using the "es" locale
[01:50] <charlie-tca> That is a good thing, too
[01:55] <charlie-tca> so the worst thing we have now is the installer stuff, when "Install Xubuntu" is chosen from the menu?
[01:59] <GridCube> it could have been me not understanding the bug
[01:59] <GridCube> madnick, should check it
[02:00] <charlie-tca> For me, all it took was select anything but English, then pick another language by double-clicking on the left column. That locked the install up completely
[02:00] <charlie-tca> where is madnick ?
[02:00] <charlie-tca> didn't he download this image?
[02:01] <charlie-tca> I will go back and check it to make sure, but I think you probably would have seen the freeze happen
[02:02] <charlie-tca> jibel was able to freeze doing it too, so it ain't too hard to find
[02:03] <GridCube> for me it was precheck on Español, so i checked it to Español(Latinoamerica) and then i went back and double clicked it to Español again
[02:03] <GridCube> all of this in doublecliking
[02:04] <charlie-tca> sounds good then. I could jump all over doing single-clicks, but the first double-click locked it up
[02:12] <charlie-tca> from plymouth to the nice pink login screen!
[02:13] <GridCube> id say nice PINK! login screen
[02:16] <charlie-tca> I have to run the manual partitioning on amd64 next, so will check the keyboard thing too.
[02:16] <charlie-tca> Yeah, When we get madnicks lightdm theme, it won't be pink no more
[02:19] <charlie-tca> Starting the last test
[02:23] <GridCube> passed
[02:23] <GridCube> :)
[02:23] <GridCube> even new software center
[02:24] <GridCube> mmm
[02:27] <charlie-tca> reat!
[02:27] <charlie-tca> Great!
[02:28] <charlie-tca> I really should do something about these sticky keys, but I really need them some days
[02:30] <GridCube> oh we need to do a wubi install¿?
[02:33] <charlie-tca> If we can do it. I usually skip that because I don't have windows
[02:35] <charlie-tca> My double clicks are getting me a language and continue at the same time on the keyboard screen. At least it is not locking up, though.
[02:35] <charlie-tca> I can hit the "back" button and fix it.
[02:35] <charlie-tca> I did it three times, so I count that as okay.
[02:36] <charlie-tca> GridCube: can you do wubi?
[02:37] <GridCube> :| not today
[02:37] <charlie-tca> No problem. jibel can usually pick them up, and even if they get missed, we got enough tests in
[02:38] <GridCube> mmkay
[02:40] <charlie-tca> Thanks for doing the tests tonight
[02:41] <GridCube> :D
[02:41] <GridCube> you are welcome
[02:41] <GridCube> :)
[02:42] <GridCube> oh if madnick really can set up a server whit php and mysql then should i keep working on making my interface better?
[02:43] <GridCube> i have a few ideas :P
[02:43] <charlie-tca> yes, because it will use your interface
[02:44] <charlie-tca> He is just giving us the server space, you design what we need
[02:44] <GridCube> :D
[02:44] <GridCube> awesome!
[02:44] <GridCube> :D
[02:44] <GridCube> then i will continue 
[02:44] <charlie-tca> whether that be text data or MySQL is up to you
[02:45] <GridCube> MySQL would give us more tools to work whit, once i learn how they work!
[02:45] <charlie-tca> All MySQL ever gave me was confusion, so you have to teach me how to read the stuff or give me an easy interface to read the results.
[02:46] <GridCube> :D thats what im trying to do
[02:46] <GridCube> thank you very much for giving me the oportunity to work on this i really appreciate it :D
[02:47] <charlie-tca> It takes a lot of people willing to put in their own time to make free software really successful.
[02:49] <GridCube> :)
[02:59] <GridCube> oh, it seems like kubuntu people haven't done most of the test!
[02:59] <GridCube> D:
[02:59] <charlie-tca> They just got their latest images, though
[02:59] <GridCube> oh
[03:01] <GridCube> well :)
[03:01] <GridCube> see you tomorrow, or friday, or saturday, it all depends
[03:01] <GridCube> :D
[04:33] <micahg> charlie-tca: you probably lost gnome-bluetooth since it was dropped to a suggests and we no longer pull it in, I guess I have to figure out if we want that or blueman for O
[10:54] <soren> Every time I open a gnome-terminal, it's immediately resized down to a minimal size. About 50% of the time when I try to resize it, it does the same. Does anyone have any idea what is causing this? No other application exhibits this behaviour.
[10:54] <soren> ...and it only happens in xubuntu.
[11:01] <mr_pouit> oh, interesting
[11:01] <mr_pouit> I just tried to resize it, and it changed to a very small window
[11:02] <soren> mr_pouit: \o/
[11:02] <soren> mr_pouit: I'm glad it's not just me :)
[11:03] <mr_pouit> maybe it's passing a wrong size to xfwm4
[11:05] <mr_pouit> I'm not sure how to debug that, you might want to report it upstream directly, so the xfwm4 developer can tell you what he needs to debug.
[11:05] <mr_pouit> (lunch time, bbl)
[15:40] <charlie-tca> pleia2: possible news for the release of Oneiric Beta2 later today: http://2tu.us/3ikb
[15:44] <madnick> I see, I got a highlight last nite about the testing, Im sorry, but I was asleep, it was 5 in the morning 
[15:46] <charlie-tca> I'm sorry. we got it, though
[16:01] <charlie-tca> Oh, that's right, we were talking about you too, weren't we?
[16:02] <madnick> I think so :P
[16:03] <madnick> Cannot look anymore, because I just installed debian 6 on this server
[16:05] <micahg> madnick: so Ubuntu got squeezed out?
[16:06] <charlie-tca> lol
[16:06] <madnick> lol, no debian 5 did ;)
[16:06] <micahg> madnick: Debian 6 == "squeeze" :)
[16:06] <madnick> oh
[16:06]  * madnick is slow :P
[16:07] <micahg> does anyone else have bluetooth, I'm happy to update seeds, but fear I don't have time to properly test bluetooth
[16:07] <madnick> i have yesterdays images and bluetooth installed
[16:07] <madnick> What needs to be done?
[16:09] <mr_pouit> it's probably okay without bluetooth by default
[16:10] <charlie-tca> Better not to seed it unless we are sure it will work
[16:11] <charlie-tca> We can push the bug into P
[16:11] <micahg> hmm, well, I don't think we currently have bluetooth on the images
[16:13] <mr_pouit> yeah, it was demoted to suggests in nm
[16:13] <madnick> i cannot find it no, but i could install blueman
[16:15] <madnick> Bluetooth is more relevant now, given smartphones and tablets i think O_o
[16:19] <micahg> ok, well, if someone has the hardware and can tell me if blueman or gnome-bluetooth pulls in more stuff and which one works, I'll update the seeds
[16:25] <madnick> well, blueman installed fine, and was succesful in pairning :)
[16:26] <charlie-tca> madnick: do you have a settings for bluetooth if you need it?
[16:26] <madnick> ok blueman tied when i aborted an operation
[16:26] <madnick> charlie-tca: which settings?
[16:27] <charlie-tca> any configurations for it?
[16:28] <madnick> default installed, paired with phone, now online using the phones networking service :)
[16:28] <madnick> No other settings im using
[16:29] <charlie-tca> Okay, I leave it up to mr_pouit and micahg  to decide what to do
[16:29] <charlie-tca> I have nothing that can use bluetooth, and don't really care which way it goes :)
[16:30] <micahg> well, does gnome-bluetooth actually pull in more stuff?
[16:30] <charlie-tca> yes, since it requires gnome-control-center and about half of gnome3
[16:32] <madnick> http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/bluetooth.png
[16:33] <madnick> blueman has a pretty easy interface
[16:50] <micahg> madnick: can I get you to test the new blueman once I convert to dh_python2 and upload to my PPA?
[16:52] <madnick> micahg: sure
[16:53] <micahg> madnick: thanks, will try to upload that Sat night
[16:54] <madnick> okay
[18:07] <mr_pouit> I guess the archive is open again...
[18:08] <micahg> shouldn't be
[18:08] <charlie-tca> it will be frozen until final release, but yes, things are being accepted
[18:09] <micahg> we should be frozen until release, but non-seeded is basically waved through if bug fix only, seeded bug fix should be accepted until next thursday (final freeze), then will need a special exception as well
[18:09] <charlie-tca> They don't want to let anything through that will break stuff bad
[18:11] <mr_pouit> I'll upload thunar & xfce4-panel then (Corsac is vac until next tuesday, so it won't be uploaded to unstable before that)
[18:12] <charlie-tca> Oh, good!
[18:12] <charlie-tca> Been waiting for thunar
[18:20] <micahg> mr_pouit: thanks, I"ll try to get bluetooth sorted with madnick's help then
[22:56] <charlie-tca> Beta2 released
[22:57] <charlie-tca> pleia2: can you publish the website news for it?
[22:57] <pleia2> yep, let me just quickly eyeball the draft
[23:00] <pleia2> fixed the link (was pointing to alpha-2 :))
[23:02] <charlie-tca> Well, I almost got it right...
[23:02] <charlie-tca> Thanks to all of you for your efforts getting this milestone out
[23:03] <pleia2> http://xubuntu.org/node/50
[23:04] <charlie-tca> Three more weeks to final. We can do it!
[23:04] <pleia2> http://xubuntu.org/news/oneiric/beta2 for prettier :)
[23:05] <charlie-tca> Heh, it looks good!
[23:29] <charlie-tca> Okay, Many thanks again for getting everything done for beta2.
[23:29] <charlie-tca> I am taking the night off now. Got to run upgrades on this machine, hoping it won't break after a week of not running them.
[23:30] <charlie-tca> Good night