[00:04] <rodriesp> hey, what happens that i can't find common image of Kubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, I can only download the optimized for Mac only
[00:06] <macer1> rodriesp, download dvd version then
[00:06] <macer1> or daily build cd
[00:07] <rodriesp> ahh, ok
[00:07] <rodriesp> daily build is beta 2?
[00:07] <Unit193> rodriesp: Check the topic
[00:08] <Unit193> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/11.10/beta-2/
[00:09] <rodriesp> ok
[00:16] <Ibis> In windows, if I wanted to add manually add Kubuntu to boot option, how would the command appear?
[00:16] <winut> i found dailies to be a bit risque on buntu distros myself! but maybe just a couple of bad eggs?
[00:29] <jogdish> hi, anyone tested out either of the betas for 11.10?
[00:31] <winut> yeah, 11.10 was good with synaptic, not muon
[00:32] <jogdish> winut:  mm was looking foward to muon, pity. Is it any better than 11.04 that i always found a little slower than 10.10 for booting. Any big changes?
[00:39] <macer1> jogdish, hello 11.10 betatester here :D
[00:40] <macer1> muon is not that bad
[00:40] <jogdish> macer1:  hey, just a fan here, looking foward to this release, Kubuntu being getting very strong in recent, overall how is it?
[00:41] <macer1> jogdish, I have KDE && Unity && gnome-shell
[00:41] <macer1> KDE is working very good :)
[00:41] <macer1> but some small bugs are really annoying...
[00:41] <salty> how do i fix the mbr on my hardrive?
[00:42] <jogdish> macer1:  unity as bad as everyone says, or it like KDE4.0 was , basically give it time?
[00:43] <macer1> unity works now really good, lenses i.e. for gwibber and music are very cool :)
[00:43] <macer1> However I think it was looking better in 11.04
[00:44] <macer1> the bad thing about unity is lack of animations like in KDE/Qt apps, and no kinetic scrooling like in Unity 2D in QML
[00:45] <jogdish> macer1: have you tried Kopete, any big chagnes or has telepaty finnally come?
[00:47] <macer1> jogdish, I haven't been using KDE much before the 4.7 release, I am using Kopete with Jabber and it works with no problems. I don't checked if it is using telepathy backend now.
[00:47] <jogdish> macer1: cool thanks for all the info
[00:48] <macer1> Unity is a really good idea, but I hate that Unity 2D version in QML looks better...
[00:50] <macer1> :<
[00:50] <macer1> and have animations
[01:42] <g0rs> Hi , does anybody use evolution email client?
[01:43] <winut> what is the question?
[01:43] <winut> my dad does
[01:43] <macer1> !anyone | g0rs
[01:43] <g0rs> winut: do you know how to enable pgp in evolution, have you done that?
[01:43] <winut> kgpg
[01:44] <g0rs> thanks ubottu
[01:44] <g0rs> !gq
[01:44] <g0rs> !poll
[01:44] <winut> do you have that installed?
[01:45] <g0rs> winut: yes i have evolution installed and am using it. I have to enable pgp in int. I downloaded a few plugins and am trying to integrate them with evolution
[01:46] <winut> g0rs: so you can get kgpg working but not with the expected behaviour?
[01:47] <g0rs> winut: I have pgp keys to add to a repository so that evoluation can decrypt emails by looking up the pgp key associated with an email address
[01:47] <g0rs> winut: i have seamonkey and gpa
[01:47] <g0rs> winut: i have to install kgpg if you say so
[01:47] <winut> well i know that kgpg works well with evolution afaik
[01:48] <winut> no harm in trying, its kde specific as well
[01:48] <winut> not that evolution is :-(
[01:49] <g0rs> winut: I like gnome more than kde.. it is more simplisitic and if you use it many times,.. you'd probably prefer gnome over kde
[01:49] <winut> until gnome 3, maybe
[01:49] <g0rs> winut: you might also make gnome look like apple lapotops  with a few tweaks.
[01:50] <winut> but i like a distro that doesn't crash every couple of minutes
[01:50] <g0rs> winut: debian never crashes, i swear
[01:50] <winut> and i cant love unity for the left hand menu arthritis system
[01:50] <g0rs> what is left menu arhiritis system ?
[01:51] <g0rs> somebody injured my body and jaws too . i have some problem . I hope it wont be serious.
[01:52] <winut> well if they stick with the current unity configuration, i wont be using it
[01:53] <winut> if you could bring the taskbar to the bottom of the screen, i could handle it
[01:53] <g0rs> winut: they are many nutcases who like to injure people so that the healthcare industry would benefit
[01:53] <winut> :-)
[01:53] <g0rs> winut: the healthcare , pharma industries are big brothers in amerika
[01:54] <winut> well its certainly not free over there
[01:54] <g0rs> winut: it is a highly unethical greedy  industry
[01:55] <winut> also the asymmetry of left hand taskbar seems awful to me on unity, thats why the bottom is best imo :-)
[01:55] <g0rs> winut: lof of people are on anti depressants for false reasons becaues big pharma wants them to be hooked onto medication.
[01:56] <winut> i will test 11.10 to see if its stable at least
[01:56] <winut> and they are also stupid enough to take it all!
[01:56] <winut> you cant outsource the blame fully
[01:56] <g0rs> winut: yes they are even though they think they are smart. some are helpless after stress
[01:57] <winut> some people don't have common sense either
[01:57] <g0rs> winut: true, most are influenced by media , tv, doctors
[01:57] <winut> i would rather the average intelligence increased than the number of pushers decreased
[01:57] <g0rs> winut: what do you mean?
[01:58] <winut> i mean sense to see what they can and cant fix themselves
[01:59] <g0rs> winut: I tend to see that some people are obsessed with fixing others and these people have lot of authority, power and influence. In a way they may try to help.
[02:00] <g0rs> winut: the health care industry was kinda against me for some reason :(
[02:00] <winut> ok, so you got doped?
[02:00] <g0rs> winut: i was under mind controlling drugs of big bro
[02:04] <ssfdre38> hey how can i have env LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype run in the background?
[02:22] <DarthFrog> ssfdre38: Stick it in /etc/rc.local  or in ~/.bash_profile.
[02:23] <DarthFrog> ssfdre38: Or write a script for ~/.kde/Autostart that launches skype and do your LD_PRELOAD beforehand.
[02:24] <ssfdre38> i needed preloaded before hand for my webcam to work
[03:26] <LINKSWORD2> Yo everybody. I've got a question about Amarok?
[03:29]  * LINKSWORD2 farts.*
[03:39] <LINKSWORD2> Wow. Am I the only one alive here?
[04:10] <DarthFrog> We've all been assimilated.  Resistance was futile.
[04:35] <kingh3mp> im having trouble puting music on my jump drive thrugh amrock wat do i do ?
[04:36] <kingh3mp> if i cant transfer my music with lenux im going back to windows
[04:38] <kingh3mp> media player 11 was my base knowlege it was easy to use quick build lists to put on my mp3 ive been messing with lenux for the past 3 hours an all i have is a damed playlist
[04:38] <mase_work> i don't know what a jump drive is, but Linux isn't for everyone.if you are happy using windows and you don't care about the lack of freedom then i would suggest you continue using windows if that is what you are comfortable with.
[04:39] <mase_work> oitherwise if you provided more information as to your specific issue, someone may be able to help you
[04:39] <kingh3mp> i have a 4 gb flash drive all im trying to do is but some musick on it
[04:39] <mase_work> and drag / drop doesn't work ?
[04:40] <mase_work> so long as amarok is configured to look for the music on the flash drive it should be able to play it
[04:40] <mase_work> otherwise the file browser in amarok should allow you to play the files directly if you don't want to import them
[04:40] <kingh3mp> no idea how to do that brb im gonna look at somthing
[04:40] <kingh3mp> i want to export
[04:40] <LINKSWORD2> O.o
[04:41] <mase_work> kingh3mp: the music or a play list ?
[04:41] <kingh3mp> the play list
[04:42] <mase_work> play list -> export play list as
[04:42] <LINKSWORD2> Perhaps I should explain in simple terms...
[04:43] <LINKSWORD2> kingh3mp has a stereo that will read a USB key.
[04:43] <LINKSWORD2> He wants to play his music on that stereo, but must first put what he wants onto the key. Quickly.
[04:43] <LINKSWORD2> >.> Otherwise, we will lose him to the Windows monster....
[04:44] <mase_work> LINKSWORD2: _we_ won't lose anything. people are free to do what they like. if windows is better for him / her then they should use windows
[04:45] <kingh3mp> link u fried my stick
[04:45]  * LINKSWORD2 dies laughing.*
[04:45] <LINKSWORD2> Context.... >.>
[04:45]  * kingh3mp kicks link in the junk*
[04:45] <mase_work> morn jono
[04:46] <jono> hey mase_work
[04:46] <kingh3mp> he accidently imported a damaged file and trashed the base data
[04:46] <LINKSWORD2> lost+found file.
[04:47] <kingh3mp> access denied file dosent exist
[04:49] <kingh3mp> 20 dollar paper weight lol now i has it figured out laters
[04:49] <LINKSWORD2> I'm done for the night.
[06:05] <student> mixa?
[06:05] <mixa> aga
[06:05] <student> ЫЫ
[06:06] <Morgan> Ы
[06:08] <Daria> =)
[06:08] <Morgan> =*
[06:08] <Daria> это мило)
[06:08] <Morgan> =)))
[06:08] <Morgan> дааа..
[06:15] <mixa>                                                                                                                                                                                                                  кися
[06:15] <mixa> кися
[06:15] <mixa> дайте наушники(((
[08:54] <eshlox> hi, which program gives the ability to control kubunt/ubuntu via android bluethooth? ;->
[08:56] <Mamarok> what exactly do you want to control?
[08:56] <eshlox> hm, now.. some videoplayer, vlc, smplayer, no matter..
[08:57] <Mamarok> so you want to use an Android phone/device as a remote control
[08:58] <Mamarok> check the Android market for that, then
[08:58] <eshlox> ;->
[08:59] <Mamarok> on the Kubuntu side you need kdebluetooth
[09:00] <eshlox> but i think some other bluetooth server
[09:00] <Mamarok> what do you mean, some other?
[09:01] <soee> did you tested Kubuntu 11.10 beta 2 already ?
[09:02] <Mamarok> hm, looks I am a bit outdated, the bluetooth stack for KDE is called bluedevil
[09:02] <Mamarok> soee: I did, but that is not a topic for this channel which is for support for released versions
[09:02] <Mamarok> you can discuss it in #kubuntu-offtopic though
[09:03] <eshlox> Mamarok: ok, in market i found many remote apllications but all need server appliaction installed on computer
[09:04] <Mamarok> server application? I doubt that, all you need is make your device discoverable and the use kanyremote to u7se it as a remote control
[09:04] <Mamarok> use*
[09:34] <nardev> is it possible to have list-view of my desktop files/icons > like this > http://lh4.ggpht.com/_B0CuCDv4i18/SckLBmN4HHI/AAAAAAAABAI/bBcx51pLCo8/desktop-list[11].png
[09:47] <tsimpson> nardev: if you set the desktop to Folderview, then check the settings under "Folder View Setting" and "Display", you should be able to do something similar
[09:53] <soee> yofel, hi so only perl* things left to do with 4.7.1 for 11.04 ?
[10:01] <naftilos76> is there a GUI for zip that can compress a big file (let's say 50Mbytes) and output the compressed file in segmented parts of 2, 3 ,4 Mbytes?
[11:27] <yofel> soee: perl's fixed  now too, so the only thing that's left is Q/A
[11:29] <soee> yofel, nice thank you :) when can we ecpect updates for 11.04 ?
[11:30] <yofel> once it's tested enough :P
[11:30] <yofel> somewhere during the weekend I guess
[11:32] <alvin> What perl issues were there?
[11:33] <yofel> package failing to build since it pulled in qmake-qt4 AND qmake-qt3, and latter was used
[11:34] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:36] <alvin> Thanks. I was about tyo try the beta one of these days, and perl in working order is very important to me.
[12:56] <nicolas_> Hi!
[12:56] <souledge> hey all
[12:58] <souledge> anybody having issues with firefox cookie management? I can't actually delete any of them. The install used the main repo and ff is updated
[13:00] <nicolas_> I have a problem with Strigi. I use it a lot with the Alt.+F2 menu to search in my pdf library. But the problem is that as soon as you click on a document found, the Alt.+F2 menu closes down. So the file I click on was not the good one I have to Alt. + F2 again, type de search request again, and scroll down...
[13:01] <nicolas_> So I was wondering if there was another search interface for strigi
[13:01] <nicolas_> of if you have another idea...
[13:04] <souledge> Sounds more like a bug what you mention. nicolas
[13:04] <souledge> hope you find a solution
[13:05] <souledge> working hours seem dead hours here:)
[13:07] <nicolas_> Arf, ok... thank you ;-)
[13:11] <Mamarok> nicolas_: because you use krunner for searching, it is absolutely normal it closes
[13:11] <Mamarok> not a bug :)
[13:12] <Mamarok> try using the find function in Dolphin instead
[13:13] <nicolas_> Ok, I'm having a look. I didn't know the dolphin find function could use strigi
[13:14] <Mamarok> that's default now in KDE4
[13:14] <nicolas_> Mamarok: Wah, that's perfect. Exactly what I wanted!
[13:14] <nicolas_> Mamarok: thank you
[13:15] <Mamarok> nicolas_: you are welcome :)
[14:38] <markit> hi, I've seen 11.10 beta2 announc... am I blind or there is no link for download the iso? Isn't intended for test? If no one downloads and tries...
[14:39] <markit> oh, found, follow the announcement link
[14:39] <markit> nothing on the home page or the brief announcement there
[15:00] <ghabit> Добрый день. Ищу хорошие современные игры под ubuntu.
[15:00] <ghabit> Посоветуйте пожалуйста что-нибудь.
[15:00] <ghabit> Спасибо.
[15:00] <Unit193> !ru | ghabit
[16:59] <oliniusz> Hello everybody! I've just cleared accidentally the default shortcut to switch on/off KWin desktop effects, it was ctrl+alt+F12. Could anybody tell me how I can restore one? When I press the combination I'll go to the console black screen. ;)
[17:00] <Peace-> oliniusz: systemsettings
[17:00] <Peace-> oliniusz: shortcuts
[17:01] <Peace-> global keyboard shortcuts
[17:01] <Peace-> select kwin
[17:01] <Peace-> select compositing
[17:01] <Peace-> set your shortcut
[17:02] <Peace-> oliniusz: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/09/23/plasma-desktopiy1580.jpg
[17:05] <oliniusz> Peace: i'm checking...
[17:07] <Peace-> oliniusz: see the picture
[17:09] <oliniusz> thanks Peace, i really thought it was ctrl+alt+F12, actually it's alt+SHIFT+F12
[17:09] <oliniusz> cheers!
[17:09] <Peace-> yes
[17:33] <TheLastProject> A package dependency could not be found.
[17:33] <TheLastProject> More information is available in the detailed report.
[17:33] <TheLastProject> Details: Package minetestc55 is virtual and has no installation candidate
[17:34] <TheLastProject> What does that mean? o-o
[17:34] <Peace-> what are you doing
[17:34] <TheLastProject> (That's a message from KPackageKit btw)
[17:34] <TheLastProject> Installing minetestc55 using KPackageKit o,o
[17:35] <genii-around> !info minetestc55
[17:35] <genii-around> Hm
[17:35] <TheLastProject> o,o
[17:36] <TheLastProject> Possible another repostory (that's the word, right?) is sending a bad copy? o,o
[17:37] <TheLastProject> Hmmm, I'll just download it from the official website o,o
[17:41] <Peace-> TheLastProject: we do not support ufficially stuff outside the official rrepository
[17:41] <TheLastProject> Yeah, well, that's understandable
[17:42] <genii-around> TheLastProject: https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/daily-builds perhaps
[17:42] <TheLastProject> I, however, am not able to see where the package is from and seeing as it's a KPackageKit error this seemed to be the best way to ask what it means =/
[17:42] <TheLastProject> Already found it genii, but thanks anyway
[18:12] <jimmy51_> is this the proper command to compress the contents of a directory into an archive? tar -cvf /home/jimmy51/archive.tar.gz /path/to/files/ ?
[18:16] <rekcuFniarB> jimmy51_: it only archives, not compressing. You need to add -z  key: tar -czvf
[18:21] <jimmy51_> rekcuFniarB: ah, ok.
[18:21] <jimmy51_> thanks
[19:02] <gunksta> Anyone else seeing CPU spikes in KMail / akonadi when connected to Google's IMAP?
[19:04] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj:  are you there?
[19:06] <acer__> türk varmı aranaızda
[19:07] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: are you there?
[19:12] <soee> what is the command to do distribution upgrade ?
[19:14] <phoenix_firebrd> soee: apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:14] <genii-around> soee: sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:14] <soee> nope cant upgrade to 11.10b2
[19:15] <soee> sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:15] <soee> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[19:15] <soee> No new release found
[19:15] <gunksta> soee: which did you try?
[19:16] <genii-around> soee: To go to an unstable release with that command, use -d at the end
[19:16] <soee> both
[19:16] <gunksta> soee: do-release-upgrade -d
[19:18] <soee> on now it works, thanks
[19:20] <gunksta> soee: glad it worked. It is also possible for this to fail, especially early in the dev procss because of broken packages. If package a needs package b but it isn't uploaded yet, the upgrade can fail.
[19:44] <neguebera> my system can't handle atl1c and ath9k at the same time. it always get freezes. some of u have an answer?
[19:47] <soee> gunksta, lets hope there wont be any problems :) downloading pkgs atm
[20:06] <gunksta> :soee It would have errored out during the check. It is possible something could happen as you download, but its unlikely.  Good Luck!
[20:08]  * genii-around sips his coffee and waits for something to blow up in spectacular fashion
[20:12] <Peace-> hi everyone :P bed time
[21:24] <soee> where can i find some booting logs ?
[21:29] <shane2peru> cat /var/log/boot.log
[21:30] <genii-around> boot.log is not usually that informative. the /var/log/dmesg gives you a lot more
[21:33] <soee> saned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned what does it mean?
[21:35] <genii-around> soee: It means that flatbed scanner background daemon is turned off by default
[21:36] <soee> im trying to figureout why i cant start system after upgrade to 11.10 b2
[21:37] <genii-around> soee: You should visit #ubuntu+1 for 11.10
[22:44] <SubCool> why does my VNC connection flicker?
[22:44] <SubCool> if i dont move the mous for like 2 seconds it goes black..
[22:56] <gwallace> Is there a way to get updated to beta 2 from the command line
[22:59] <gwallace1234> Is there a way to get updated to beta 2 from the command line
[23:00] <gwallace1234> I tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it did not find anything that needed to be upgraded.
[23:08] <szal> gwallace1234: #ubuntu+1 can answer you that