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| AlanBell | Bug 749702 | 16:12 |
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| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 749702 in ubiquity ""Try Ubuntu" screen-reads as "Try $RELEASE"" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/749702 | 16:12 |
| charlie-tca | We have six more now from beta2 testing | 16:14 |
| AlanBell | yeah, I don't think that one is still valid though | 16:21 |
| charlie-tca | That would be good. We can close it with fix-released in Oneiric | 16:23 |
| AlanBell | just downloading beta2 now, I will do a VM install later, maybe a hardware install too | 16:25 |
| paul_h1 | AlanBell: I didn't have much luck with the beta2 in live session mode. orca starts okay but I couldn't launch any applications | 16:27 |
| AlanBell | charlie-tca: bug 852583 is me moving in mysterious ways ;) | 17:13 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 852583 in gnome-orca "Orca does not pronounce "Oneiric Ocelot" very well" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852583 | 17:13 |
| charlie-tca | I just don't see that as critical when we can't even get the variable names in Ubiquity | 17:13 |
| AlanBell | I want to get the audio interface to be considered part of the branding of the operating system | 17:13 |
| charlie-tca | I want to have visually impaired able to know what is happening, too. I think that should be higher priority than a pronounciation of Oneiric | 17:14 |
| AlanBell | sure, it is | 17:14 |
| AlanBell | I want to get that too | 17:14 |
| AlanBell | but I want the visual experience people to include audio as part of their remit | 17:15 |
| charlie-tca | So, how does oneiric pronunciation get a higher priority than the variable names? | 17:15 |
| AlanBell | it doesn't | 17:15 |
| charlie-tca | bug 781385 | 17:16 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 781385 in ubiquity "Ubiquity GTK should have useful accessible names set in the Glade .ui files instead of using the variable names" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/781385 | 17:16 |
| AlanBell | what variable names anyway? | 17:16 |
| AlanBell | eww | 17:18 |
| charlie-tca | yeah, sitting for months already, and still broken | 17:19 |
| charlie-tca | now, I got to go cut grass here. | 17:19 |
| AlanBell | LDTP is only possible because of a11y stuff, not impressed that they broke it all just to make life for LDTP easier | 17:36 |
| maco | I have updated .ui files from Cheri | 17:53 |
| maco | but obviously this is a change that if i just shove it in, i'll end up with an angry evan on my hands | 17:53 |
| maco | and while i *do* have commit access to ubiquity... | 17:53 |
| AlanBell | maco: where is the loop you mentioned? | 18:10 |
| AlanBell | why isn't the test testing against the actual accessible names? is it because of translations? | 18:10 |
| AlanBell | ls | 18:12 |
| AlanBell | oops | 18:12 |
| maco | AlanBell: look around line 200 of gtk_ui.py | 18:12 |
| maco | its not actually a loop, just a thing that gets called every time a widget is added | 18:13 |
| maco | name = gtk.Buildable.get_name(widget) | 18:13 |
| maco | widget.set_name(name) | 18:13 |
| maco | atk_desc = widget.get_accessible() | 18:13 |
| maco | atk_desc.set_name(name) | 18:13 |
| maco | self.all_widgets.add(widget) | 18:13 |
| maco | oh ouch. found something that, if commented out, would make the labels readable by orca too, i think... | 18:14 |
| maco | just below that there's a comment saying that he's forcing the labels to not be able to take focus because then they become part of the tabbing through the page. if you could tab to a label, though....then orca would read it | 18:14 |
| AlanBell | it reads the labels though doesn't it? | 18:15 |
| AlanBell | I will try the beta2 installer later | 18:19 |
| AlanBell | maco: how do I run ubiquity without going through the installer? | 18:19 |
| maco | it reads labels on *buttons* | 18:20 |
| maco | the explanatory text, though? nope | 18:20 |
| maco | go to the "try" instead of the "Install" then run from a terminal | 18:20 |
| maco | with sudo, iirc | 18:20 |
| AlanBell | so I did bzr branch lp:ubiquity | 18:21 |
| AlanBell | can I run it from the branch? | 18:22 |
| maco | oh, no | 18:42 |
| maco | or well, not that i know how to do | 18:42 |
| maco | if you can figure out how to make it build, sure.... | 18:43 |
| maco | but i have no idea how to build ubiquity | 18:43 |
| maco | it requires that debian-installer be built first then pulls some pieces from it | 18:43 |
| maco | ...which is why my testing of UI changes to ubiquity is in the form of poking the python files on a live cd | 18:43 |
| AlanBell | it does read the explanitory text on the first page | 18:52 |
| AlanBell | broadly speaking it is useable, if you do the install connected to the internet and let it guess location and keyboard layout | 18:55 |
| AlanBell | and it would be great to have the button names as they should be | 18:55 |
| AlanBell | I will be checking for a few bugs and maybe raising new ones | 18:56 |
| AlanBell | and will probably do a screencast again | 18:56 |
| === kinoucho` is now known as kinouchou | ||
| * AlanBell closes a heap of bugs | 21:51 | |
| AlanBell | bug 851694 is now at the top of my list of bad bugs | 21:56 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 851694 in unity "application icons in apps lens are all called "button"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851694 | 21:56 |
| AlanBell | charlie-tca: I am not sure where the prepare step is for bug 856782 | 22:25 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 856782 in ubiquity "Prepare: Unable to read system requirements with a screen reader" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/856782 | 22:25 |
| AlanBell | ah, never mind, got it | 22:26 |
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