=== API is now known as Guest94294 === Guest94294 is now known as apinheiro [16:12] Bug 749702 [16:12] Launchpad bug 749702 in ubiquity ""Try Ubuntu" screen-reads as "Try $RELEASE"" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/749702 [16:14] We have six more now from beta2 testing [16:21] yeah, I don't think that one is still valid though [16:23] That would be good. We can close it with fix-released in Oneiric [16:25] just downloading beta2 now, I will do a VM install later, maybe a hardware install too [16:27] AlanBell: I didn't have much luck with the beta2 in live session mode. orca starts okay but I couldn't launch any applications [17:13] charlie-tca: bug 852583 is me moving in mysterious ways ;) [17:13] Launchpad bug 852583 in gnome-orca "Orca does not pronounce "Oneiric Ocelot" very well" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852583 [17:13] I just don't see that as critical when we can't even get the variable names in Ubiquity [17:13] I want to get the audio interface to be considered part of the branding of the operating system [17:14] I want to have visually impaired able to know what is happening, too. I think that should be higher priority than a pronounciation of Oneiric [17:14] sure, it is [17:14] I want to get that too [17:15] but I want the visual experience people to include audio as part of their remit [17:15] So, how does oneiric pronunciation get a higher priority than the variable names? [17:15] it doesn't [17:16] bug 781385 [17:16] Launchpad bug 781385 in ubiquity "Ubiquity GTK should have useful accessible names set in the Glade .ui files instead of using the variable names" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/781385 [17:16] what variable names anyway? [17:18] eww [17:19] yeah, sitting for months already, and still broken [17:19] now, I got to go cut grass here. [17:36] LDTP is only possible because of a11y stuff, not impressed that they broke it all just to make life for LDTP easier [17:53] I have updated .ui files from Cheri [17:53] but obviously this is a change that if i just shove it in, i'll end up with an angry evan on my hands [17:53] and while i *do* have commit access to ubiquity... [18:10] maco: where is the loop you mentioned? [18:10] why isn't the test testing against the actual accessible names? is it because of translations? [18:12] ls [18:12] oops [18:12] AlanBell: look around line 200 of gtk_ui.py [18:13] its not actually a loop, just a thing that gets called every time a widget is added [18:13] name = gtk.Buildable.get_name(widget) [18:13] widget.set_name(name) [18:13] atk_desc = widget.get_accessible() [18:13] atk_desc.set_name(name) [18:13] self.all_widgets.add(widget) [18:14] oh ouch. found something that, if commented out, would make the labels readable by orca too, i think... [18:14] just below that there's a comment saying that he's forcing the labels to not be able to take focus because then they become part of the tabbing through the page. if you could tab to a label, though....then orca would read it [18:15] it reads the labels though doesn't it? [18:19] I will try the beta2 installer later [18:19] maco: how do I run ubiquity without going through the installer? [18:20] it reads labels on *buttons* [18:20] the explanatory text, though? nope [18:20] go to the "try" instead of the "Install" then run from a terminal [18:20] with sudo, iirc [18:21] so I did bzr branch lp:ubiquity [18:22] can I run it from the branch? [18:42] oh, no [18:42] or well, not that i know how to do [18:43] if you can figure out how to make it build, sure.... [18:43] but i have no idea how to build ubiquity [18:43] it requires that debian-installer be built first then pulls some pieces from it [18:43] ...which is why my testing of UI changes to ubiquity is in the form of poking the python files on a live cd [18:52] it does read the explanitory text on the first page [18:55] broadly speaking it is useable, if you do the install connected to the internet and let it guess location and keyboard layout [18:55] and it would be great to have the button names as they should be [18:56] I will be checking for a few bugs and maybe raising new ones [18:56] and will probably do a screencast again === kinoucho` is now known as kinouchou [21:51] * AlanBell closes a heap of bugs [21:56] bug 851694 is now at the top of my list of bad bugs [21:56] Launchpad bug 851694 in unity "application icons in apps lens are all called "button"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851694 [22:25] charlie-tca: I am not sure where the prepare step is for bug 856782 [22:25] Launchpad bug 856782 in ubiquity "Prepare: Unable to read system requirements with a screen reader" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/856782 [22:26] ah, never mind, got it