| === Cheesehead is now known as Cheesehead_away | ||
| YoBoY | good morning | 06:15 |
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| DarkwingDuck | Morning/Night... It's only 11:41p here so, I'm not in bed yet. | 06:41 |
| YoBoY | 8:43am here :) | 06:43 |
| DarkwingDuck | Nice | 06:43 |
| * YoBoY is listening mark at the open world conference :) | 07:21 | |
| YoBoY | someone here can help me to correct a text in English before I post it ? ^^" | 08:17 |
| akgraner | YoBoY, do you still need someone to review you post? | 11:06 |
| YoBoY | yes ^^" | 11:06 |
| YoBoY | http://framapad.org/mP66mPRIC6 | 11:06 |
| * akgraner looks | 11:07 | |
| YoBoY | thanks :) | 11:08 |
| YoBoY | writing posts in English is like a torture for me, always afraid to make it wrong ^^" | 11:09 |
| === Cheesehead_away is now known as Cheesehead | ||
| Cheesehead | YoBoY: Tried the framapad link - I don't see any content... | 11:28 |
| YoBoY | strange :] | 11:29 |
| YoBoY | it's there for me ^^" | 11:29 |
| Cheesehead | YoBoY: Aha. Didn't work in epiphany. Does work in Firefox. | 11:30 |
| YoBoY | etherpad... | 11:30 |
| Cheesehead | YoBoY: Looks great. akgraner clearly been busy there. | 11:34 |
| YoBoY | and she's done a great work, my english writing is really bad, but you can already see that here :p | 11:35 |
| head_victim | YoBoY: it's ok, we'll make you enGB english one of these days though instead of those crazy enUS types. | 11:37 |
| Cheesehead | YoBoY: I disagree about your english writing. My French would be worse. That document is polished and reasy to send. | 11:37 |
| Cheesehead | /s/reasy/ready | 11:37 |
| head_victim | The limit of my second language is what google translate can produce. | 11:37 |
| YoBoY | lol | 11:40 |
| YoBoY | and english is my third langage, not my second :p | 11:41 |
| head_victim | Showoff ;) | 11:41 |
| YoBoY | ok, it's posted | 11:47 |
| YoBoY | now I have to wait and see if some new volunteers come to us :) | 11:48 |
| head_victim | You pay the flights and accom and I'll volunteer ;) | 11:49 |
| YoBoY | I don't have the money for that :) | 11:50 |
| Cheesehead | head_victim: We crazy enUS types prefer "Enthusiastic" or perhaps | 11:51 |
| Cheesehead | "Deluded" over 'Crazy' | 11:51 |
| Cheesehead | Sometimes "Zany" | 11:51 |
| Cheesehead | 'Crazy' implies we eant to burn things, which is not always true. | 11:52 |
| * Cheesehead takes a moment to revel in lighting the gas stove | 11:54 | |
| head_victim | YoBoY: just making sure the offer is there ;) | 12:08 |
| head_victim | Cheesehead: And you obviously dislike U's and S's ;) | 12:08 |
| Cheesehead | head_victim: Not at all. That would be...crazy. | 12:09 |
| * Cheesehead 's eyes dart furtively back and forth | 12:10 | |
| head_victim | WOW | 12:10 |
| head_victim | Wrong channel | 12:10 |
| head_victim | (It's quite hilarious that that is the initials for the country but the 2 most commonly dropped or replaced letters in translations ;) | 12:10 |
| head_victim | Somehow that ended up in an entirely different channel...... | 12:10 |
| Cheesehead | head_victim: Most interesting. I did not know that. | 12:12 |
| head_victim | Colour/Color, Organised/Organized, etc | 12:51 |
| Cheesehead | Oh, so translated English <-> American? | 12:55 |
| akgraner | YoBoY, you're English is great! | 12:59 |
| akgraner | I just helped you with little editor kind of corrections | 12:59 |
| akgraner | you could have published it just the way it was and your message would have been understood | 12:59 |
| akgraner | you communicate very well | 13:00 |
| akgraner | head_victim, I like that - I'm using my second language is what google translate can produce | 13:01 |
| YoBoY | merci akgraner :) | 13:05 |
| head_victim | I've had whole conversations with spanish speakers to try and help them out with Ubuntu stuff in other channels via google translate | 13:18 |
| DarwinSurvivor | head_victim: maybe someday google will clue in and add it directly to g-talk or google+... | 13:43 |
| head_victim | DarwinSurvivor: ah mine have all been via IRC | 13:44 |
| head_victim | Cut and paste style | 13:44 |
| head_victim | xchat plugin? | 13:44 |
| DarwinSurvivor | i'm sure an irssi script could be written pretty easily. you know, if i knew any perl :P | 13:45 |
| head_victim | Hah I know enough not to bother ;) | 13:45 |
| DarwinSurvivor | lol | 13:45 |
| DarwinSurvivor | i've read enough to know you're probably right | 13:46 |
| DarwinSurvivor | hmm, i wonder if I could learn enough to pass data back and forth with a python script... | 13:46 |
| DarwinSurvivor | lol | 13:46 |
| head_victim | I'd have more luck working a second job and paying someone else to do it | 13:47 |
| head_victim | I'm what you call an "end user" who pokes around with things until they break and then spends twice as long trying to fix it again | 13:47 |
| DarwinSurvivor | where DO you hire masochists these days? | 13:48 |
| Cheesehead | DarwinSurvivor: Well, in the US, we call them 'researchers' and they spend most of their time filling out grant requests | 13:49 |
| Cheesehead | ...but there's no money for the grant. | 13:49 |
| DarwinSurvivor | haha | 13:49 |
| Cheesehead | So, technically, two of my brothers are masochists. | 13:50 |
| head_victim | Makes my dad one as well then | 13:51 |
| Cheesehead | head_victim: Being an 'end user' is the *fun* part! I just spent two days on and off figuring out how to edit my firewall and enable certain ssh fun. | 13:51 |
| Cheesehead | If not for that adventure, what's to blog about? | 13:51 |
| Cheesehead | Nobody else wants to read about my family! | 13:52 |
| head_victim | I thought about blogging. Then I realised I didn't have anything worth blogging about. | 13:53 |
| DarwinSurvivor | Cheesehead: hey, your family only takes up about half your posts | 13:53 |
| DarwinSurvivor | the other half seems to be all links to ubuntu-leadership google docs | 13:54 |
| Cheesehead | DarwinSurvivor: Well, the big one is still in the works. Some trendy, smart-alecky, good-looking friends of mine are going to rob a casino. | 13:55 |
| Cheesehead | ...With a convoluted, unreaslitic plan. | 13:56 |
| DarwinSurvivor | will it by any chance take place near an ocean? | 13:57 |
| Cheesehead | Funny that, yes...just like the last few they did. | 13:59 |
| akgraner | hi all I'll be offline for a couple hours :-) more fun soon - don't forget about Ubuntu Users Days starting tomorrow - I have a session at 1600 UTC | 17:56 |
| akgraner | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays | 17:56 |
| Cheesehead | Chapter 8: Money. Are there any LoCos with their organizational funds, bank accounts, and fundraisers? | 21:35 |
| Cheesehead | (Everything in the Wisconsin LoCo has been quite cheap and informal) | 21:36 |
| valorie | hmmm, we've had some money in the past, but basically buy CDs with it or something | 21:46 |
| Cheesehead | valorie: Thanks | 22:23 |
| Cheesehead | I wonder if the source (FRG) document is applicable to LoCos? In this case, the two seem to diverge to me. | 22:23 |
| valorie | one could also use money to buy notices/advertising, I guess | 22:24 |
| valorie | or sponsor a conference | 22:24 |
| Cheesehead | Well, the original document is US-only, and under the aegis of a govt entity. As long as you obeyed those rules, you didn't need to worry about taxes or other legal implications | 22:25 |
| Cheesehead | As a private club affiliated with an international organization, the rules will vary from country to country and state to state. | 22:26 |
| Cheesehead | I feel uncomfortable writing money advice that might get somebody in a different country in trouble with their tax authorities | 22:27 |
| Cheesehead | ...so I suspect Chapter 8 will be pretty vague beyound basic principles (accountability, rotate treasurer, regular audits, all applicable permits and laws, etc | 22:32 |
| Cheesehead | ...regular filing of all required documentation... | 22:32 |
| valorie | we don't have any of that, and have never had more than $50 or so which was spent immediately on pizza | 22:34 |
| valorie | I suspect most LoCos are the same | 22:35 |
| Cheesehead | In the past, we have rotated whose turn it was to pay for pizza. | 22:36 |
| Cheesehead | My first thought for money advice is "Go as long as possible using informal means." But again, that may not be appropriate everywhere. | 22:38 |
| valorie | right, either people each buy something/bring something | 22:44 |
| valorie | or the person in charge takes the money and pays it out | 22:44 |
| Cheesehead | Yeah, "informal means." Works great in most circumstances that I have run across. | 22:46 |
| valorie | I can tell you that even small amounts of money can be dangerous to some people, depending on circumstances | 22:47 |
| valorie | so if there is trust, there must be someone checking on it | 22:47 |
| valorie | or there can be broken hearts, broken trust, and a lot of damage | 22:48 |
| valorie | even less than $50 | 22:48 |
| valorie | sad to say | 22:48 |
| valorie | this wasn't in a loco, but another volunteer group, at least 30 years ago | 22:51 |
| valorie | and the memories are still fresh | 22:51 |
| * Cheesehead was watching, just had nothing to add | 23:42 | |
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