=== Cheesehead is now known as Cheesehead_away [06:15] good morning [06:41] Morning/Night... It's only 11:41p here so, I'm not in bed yet. [06:43] 8:43am here :) [06:43] Nice [07:21] * YoBoY is listening mark at the open world conference :) [08:17] someone here can help me to correct a text in English before I post it ? ^^" [11:06] YoBoY, do you still need someone to review you post? [11:06] yes ^^" [11:06] http://framapad.org/mP66mPRIC6 [11:07] * akgraner looks [11:08] thanks :) [11:09] writing posts in English is like a torture for me, always afraid to make it wrong ^^" === Cheesehead_away is now known as Cheesehead [11:28] YoBoY: Tried the framapad link - I don't see any content... [11:29] strange :] [11:29] it's there for me ^^" [11:30] YoBoY: Aha. Didn't work in epiphany. Does work in Firefox. [11:30] etherpad... [11:34] YoBoY: Looks great. akgraner clearly been busy there. [11:35] and she's done a great work, my english writing is really bad, but you can already see that here :p [11:37] YoBoY: it's ok, we'll make you enGB english one of these days though instead of those crazy enUS types. [11:37] YoBoY: I disagree about your english writing. My French would be worse. That document is polished and reasy to send. [11:37] /s/reasy/ready [11:37] The limit of my second language is what google translate can produce. [11:40] lol [11:41] and english is my third langage, not my second :p [11:41] Showoff ;) [11:47] ok, it's posted [11:48] now I have to wait and see if some new volunteers come to us :) [11:49] You pay the flights and accom and I'll volunteer ;) [11:50] I don't have the money for that :) [11:51] head_victim: We crazy enUS types prefer "Enthusiastic" or perhaps [11:51] "Deluded" over 'Crazy' [11:51] Sometimes "Zany" [11:52] 'Crazy' implies we eant to burn things, which is not always true. [11:54] * Cheesehead takes a moment to revel in lighting the gas stove [12:08] YoBoY: just making sure the offer is there ;) [12:08] Cheesehead: And you obviously dislike U's and S's ;) [12:09] head_victim: Not at all. That would be...crazy. [12:10] * Cheesehead 's eyes dart furtively back and forth [12:10] WOW [12:10] Wrong channel [12:10] (It's quite hilarious that that is the initials for the country but the 2 most commonly dropped or replaced letters in translations ;) [12:10] Somehow that ended up in an entirely different channel...... [12:12] head_victim: Most interesting. I did not know that. [12:51] Colour/Color, Organised/Organized, etc [12:55] Oh, so translated English <-> American? [12:59] YoBoY, you're English is great! [12:59] I just helped you with little editor kind of corrections [12:59] you could have published it just the way it was and your message would have been understood [13:00] you communicate very well [13:01] head_victim, I like that - I'm using my second language is what google translate can produce [13:05] merci akgraner :) [13:18] I've had whole conversations with spanish speakers to try and help them out with Ubuntu stuff in other channels via google translate [13:43] head_victim: maybe someday google will clue in and add it directly to g-talk or google+... [13:44] DarwinSurvivor: ah mine have all been via IRC [13:44] Cut and paste style [13:44] xchat plugin? [13:45] i'm sure an irssi script could be written pretty easily. you know, if i knew any perl :P [13:45] Hah I know enough not to bother ;) [13:45] lol [13:46] i've read enough to know you're probably right [13:46] hmm, i wonder if I could learn enough to pass data back and forth with a python script... [13:46] lol [13:47] I'd have more luck working a second job and paying someone else to do it [13:47] I'm what you call an "end user" who pokes around with things until they break and then spends twice as long trying to fix it again [13:48] where DO you hire masochists these days? [13:49] DarwinSurvivor: Well, in the US, we call them 'researchers' and they spend most of their time filling out grant requests [13:49] ...but there's no money for the grant. [13:49] haha [13:50] So, technically, two of my brothers are masochists. [13:51] Makes my dad one as well then [13:51] head_victim: Being an 'end user' is the *fun* part! I just spent two days on and off figuring out how to edit my firewall and enable certain ssh fun. [13:51] If not for that adventure, what's to blog about? [13:52] Nobody else wants to read about my family! [13:53] I thought about blogging. Then I realised I didn't have anything worth blogging about. [13:53] Cheesehead: hey, your family only takes up about half your posts [13:54] the other half seems to be all links to ubuntu-leadership google docs [13:55] DarwinSurvivor: Well, the big one is still in the works. Some trendy, smart-alecky, good-looking friends of mine are going to rob a casino. [13:56] ...With a convoluted, unreaslitic plan. [13:57] will it by any chance take place near an ocean? [13:59] Funny that, yes...just like the last few they did. [17:56] hi all I'll be offline for a couple hours :-) more fun soon - don't forget about Ubuntu Users Days starting tomorrow - I have a session at 1600 UTC [17:56] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays [21:35] Chapter 8: Money. Are there any LoCos with their organizational funds, bank accounts, and fundraisers? [21:36] (Everything in the Wisconsin LoCo has been quite cheap and informal) [21:46] hmmm, we've had some money in the past, but basically buy CDs with it or something [22:23] valorie: Thanks [22:23] I wonder if the source (FRG) document is applicable to LoCos? In this case, the two seem to diverge to me. [22:24] one could also use money to buy notices/advertising, I guess [22:24] or sponsor a conference [22:25] Well, the original document is US-only, and under the aegis of a govt entity. As long as you obeyed those rules, you didn't need to worry about taxes or other legal implications [22:26] As a private club affiliated with an international organization, the rules will vary from country to country and state to state. [22:27] I feel uncomfortable writing money advice that might get somebody in a different country in trouble with their tax authorities [22:32] ...so I suspect Chapter 8 will be pretty vague beyound basic principles (accountability, rotate treasurer, regular audits, all applicable permits and laws, etc [22:32] ...regular filing of all required documentation... [22:34] we don't have any of that, and have never had more than $50 or so which was spent immediately on pizza [22:35] I suspect most LoCos are the same [22:36] In the past, we have rotated whose turn it was to pay for pizza. [22:38] My first thought for money advice is "Go as long as possible using informal means." But again, that may not be appropriate everywhere. [22:44] right, either people each buy something/bring something [22:44] or the person in charge takes the money and pays it out [22:46] Yeah, "informal means." Works great in most circumstances that I have run across. [22:47] I can tell you that even small amounts of money can be dangerous to some people, depending on circumstances [22:47] so if there is trust, there must be someone checking on it [22:48] or there can be broken hearts, broken trust, and a lot of damage [22:48] even less than $50 [22:48] sad to say [22:51] this wasn't in a loco, but another volunteer group, at least 30 years ago [22:51] and the memories are still fresh [23:42] * Cheesehead was watching, just had nothing to add