| thafreak | Anyone ever set up an ssh account that's soley for tunneling, i.e. no shell and not allowed to run stuff? | 02:25 |
|---|---|---|
| Unit193 | Looked into doing that once, options after the .hosts | 02:29 |
| === starkittn is now known as sunkittn | ||
| Unit193 | Any lighthttpd people here? | 04:39 |
| jrgifford | Unit193: Unit193, I've played with lighthttpd before. Whats up? | 12:03 |
| Unit193 | Too late, already fixed :P | 12:03 |
| * jrgifford kicks irssi for mentioning you twice | 12:04 | |
| jrgifford | oh ok. :P | 12:04 |
| jrgifford | Yay, new banshee build for oneiric. | 12:05 |
| Unit193 | You're running Oneiric? | 12:05 |
| jrgifford | Yup. | 12:05 |
| Unit193 | No pianobar update, it's already fixed in GIT | 12:06 |
| jrgifford | Isn't that what `git fetch upstream && ./configure && make && sudo make install` is for? :P | 12:07 |
| Unit193 | Anyway, I use lighttpd for internal irssi logs and they were getting a little large. I now have them gz'd and can still open them with browser :D | 12:08 |
| jrgifford | Awesome. :D | 12:08 |
| Unit193 | Had issues at after I figured out how | 12:08 |
| Unit193 | Went from 57% used to 54% (Down about 200+MB) | 12:09 |
| jrgifford | sounds awesome. | 12:13 |
| * jrgifford really had no idea what that meant :P | 12:13 | |
| thafreak | Unit193: you know how you fix lighttpd? | 14:36 |
| thafreak | Unit193: you install nginx :) | 14:36 |
| Unit193 | sudo apt-get pur.. | 14:36 |
| * Unit193 Cherokee | 14:36 | |
| Unit193 | thafreak: It's working now, so I don't care :D | 14:36 |
| paultag | install tomcat | 14:36 |
| thafreak | i couldn't get cherokee to do what I wanted...even with it's fancy schmancy admin UI | 14:37 |
| paultag | and rewrite in java | 14:37 |
| thafreak | paultag: are you trying to piss in my cornflakes this morning? :( | 14:37 |
| Unit193 | paultag: That's not going to go over well in this case :P | 14:37 |
| paultag | I fucking hate tomcat | 14:37 |
| Unit193 | paultag: And hello again! | 14:37 |
| paultag | and java | 14:37 |
| paultag | Unit193: ohai | 14:37 |
| thafreak | i hate java BECAUSE of tomcat | 14:38 |
| paultag | I love java | 14:38 |
| paultag | I hate tomcat | 14:38 |
| paultag | tomcat fucking *blows* | 14:38 |
| thafreak | i probably wouldn't hate it so much if i never had to mess with tomcat | 14:38 |
| thafreak | actually, I think it's mainly just java | 14:38 |
| thafreak | er | 14:38 |
| paultag | java's not bad | 14:38 |
| thafreak | java "web apps" | 14:38 |
| paultag | I'll defend it | 14:38 |
| paultag | thafreak: yeah, +1000000 | 14:38 |
| paultag | and it's what I'm stuck writing | 14:39 |
| paultag | porting from PL/1 to java web shit | 14:39 |
| thafreak | i've never used jetty, but I bet it still blows | 14:39 |
| thafreak | PL/1...isn't that database related? | 14:39 |
| paultag | thafreak: it's a shitmess of COBOL and FORTRAN | 14:39 |
| paultag | thafreak: predates C | 14:39 |
| paultag | shoot me | 14:39 |
| paultag | please | 14:39 |
| Cheri703 | anyone familiar with OLD apple powerpc desktops? I need to get data from one, and I'm like a monkey hitting it with a stick. has an adapter for video, but nothing's coming through, doesn't have standard mouse/keyboard ports, no USB.... >.< | 14:40 |
| paultag | shoot me | 14:40 |
| paultag | Cheri703: poke skellat over irc | 14:40 |
| paultag | erm identi.ca | 14:40 |
| Cheri703 | k...I haven't been on there in a WHILE | 14:40 |
| paultag | Cheri703: he's good with old macs | 14:40 |
| paultag | he still runs a PPC mac | 14:40 |
| Cheri703 | kk, thanks. I'm looking at it like o.O | 14:41 |
| thafreak | yank the hard drive? | 14:41 |
| * Unit193 has a G3 | 14:41 | |
| Cheri703 | weird connector style | 14:41 |
| Cheri703 | I tried that first thafreak | 14:41 |
| thafreak | it's probably scsi then | 14:41 |
| Cheri703 | it's like a super long ide or something weird | 14:41 |
| * Cheri703 had a scsi server, but doesn't anymore | 14:41 | |
| thafreak | 50 pin scsi 2 | 14:41 |
| Cheri703 | probably | 14:42 |
| thafreak | if you can't get the machine to boot, best bet is to find an old scsi controller and throw it in a linux box | 14:42 |
| Cheri703 | the finding part is the hard one :) | 14:42 |
| thafreak | they're cheap on ebay if you can wait | 14:43 |
| Cheri703 | it sounds like it's booting, but....can't see anything and can't connect input devices | 14:43 |
| paultag | serial port, perhaps | 14:43 |
| paultag | oh the inittab might not be up for that | 14:43 |
| thafreak | does it has ethernets? | 14:43 |
| paultag | oh and it's os9 | 14:43 |
| Cheri703 | it does have ethernet | 14:43 |
| paultag | netboot :) | 14:43 |
| thafreak | can it boot from cdrom? (I think hold down C while it makes it's tada sound) | 14:44 |
| Cheri703 | need video and keyboard first | 14:44 |
| thafreak | try the older system rescue cd ppc version...you can tweak it to boot and start ssh | 14:44 |
| thafreak | no need for video | 14:44 |
| Cheri703 | need keyboard | 14:45 |
| thafreak | not to ssh into it :) | 14:45 |
| paultag | thafreak: but to cdrom boot | 14:45 |
| Cheri703 | but to hold down c | 14:45 |
| thafreak | fsck | 14:45 |
| thafreak | good point | 14:45 |
| thafreak | macs suck :) | 14:45 |
| paultag | ++ | 14:45 |
| Cheri703 | yeah | 14:45 |
| Cheri703 | woo proprietary crap | 14:45 |
| thafreak | ok then, I think the best bet is a scsi controller and some ddrescue magic | 14:46 |
| thafreak | does this need done in a hurry? | 14:46 |
| Cheri703 | hmm...k | 14:46 |
| Cheri703 | not really, it's been sitting in their basement for several years | 14:46 |
| thafreak | too bad they don't have scsi->usb adapters like they have for ide/sata... | 14:47 |
| Cheri703 | yeah | 14:47 |
| paultag | y'know what I miss? | 14:48 |
| paultag | /dev/hda1 | 14:48 |
| * Cheri703 is catching up on Sons of Anarchy....I love this show | 14:48 | |
| paultag | fucking /dev/sda1 convention makes no sense | 14:48 |
| paultag | yeah yeah SATA blah blah | 14:49 |
| paultag | but I don't care, then it should have been /dev/ida | 14:49 |
| paultag | hdN makes so much more sense | 14:49 |
| paultag | and why should we care about the type of device it is? It's a hard drive | 14:49 |
| paultag | bah | 14:49 |
| paultag | special snowflakes want their custom names | 14:49 |
| thafreak | everything's scsi now.... | 14:51 |
| paultag | thafreak: I don't care what protocol it uses | 14:51 |
| thafreak | scsi is the future :) | 14:51 |
| paultag | it means nothing to me | 14:51 |
| paultag | at all | 14:51 |
| paultag | it's a hard disk | 14:51 |
| thafreak | /dev/disk-by-uuid :) | 14:51 |
| paultag | that's even worse | 14:51 |
| thafreak | haha why? | 14:52 |
| paultag | I don't want to vomit on my keyboard to get something | 14:52 |
| thafreak | /dev/disk/by-id | 14:52 |
| paultag | my parition table does not change that much | 14:52 |
| paultag | I don't want to grep logs to get my USB key | 14:52 |
| thafreak | whoa, /dev/disk/by-id is nuts if you have encrypted lvm... | 14:53 |
| paultag | which should be /dev/usba0 | 14:53 |
| paultag | erm, perhaps not | 14:53 |
| paultag | /dev/ud0 | 14:53 |
| paultag | uda | 14:53 |
| paultag | don't stick it in with my hard disks, that's silly | 14:53 |
| paultag | thafreak: o'rly? | 14:53 |
| thafreak | you work on the kernel patch for that, I'm sure linus would love it ;) | 14:53 |
| paultag | thafreak: I'd put a four-page comment rant in it | 14:54 |
| paultag | thafreak: and I think I can do that with udev magicks | 14:54 |
| paultag | so I'll be trying to do that for Syn | 14:54 |
| thafreak | lol.... | 14:54 |
| paultag | have *some* sort of normal system | 14:54 |
| thafreak | that's ptag 4 ya...breaking convention | 14:54 |
| paultag | thafreak: breaking a stupid convention chosen in a drug-addled haze does not count as breaking jack shit | 14:55 |
| thafreak | you're a breaker face it | 14:55 |
| paultag | totally :) | 14:55 |
| paultag | I'm the special snowflake! | 14:55 |
| thafreak | now look what you did...you guys distracted me | 14:55 |
| thafreak | I'm supposed to be learning joomla | 14:55 |
| paultag | barf | 14:55 |
| paultag | we had to do that for school | 14:55 |
| paultag | it's such a beast | 14:56 |
| thafreak | so when my boss comes in 30 minutes, I can tell her why it's going to take months to do what she wants | 14:56 |
| paultag | thafreak: tell her the UN uses it | 14:56 |
| paultag | thafreak: that should be enough | 14:56 |
| thafreak | oh no...we;re using a system built on it | 14:56 |
| paultag | you'll need to pass resultions and have a process to file a montion to add something to somewhere | 14:56 |
| paultag | thafreak: gross :) | 14:56 |
| thafreak | and she wants me to integrate this other thing built on it into the first thing | 14:56 |
| paultag | yuck-o-saur | 14:57 |
| thafreak | werd | 14:57 |
| paultag | I can't stand software cobblings | 14:57 |
| paultag | you're a software cobbler | 14:57 |
| thafreak | we're using hubzero | 14:57 |
| thafreak | hubzero.org | 14:57 |
| thafreak | for scientific collab | 14:57 |
| thafreak | oh, and you'll LOVE the install docs :) | 14:58 |
| paultag | thafreak: looks snappy | 14:58 |
| paultag | thafreak: oh? | 14:58 |
| thafreak | http://hubzero.org/documentation/1.0.0/installation/Setup.debian | 14:58 |
| thafreak | yeah...things like "Don't make a normal user account, that will screw things up, just use root for everything" | 14:58 |
| paultag | holy shit | 14:59 |
| thafreak | and | 14:59 |
| paultag | the first fucking line | 14:59 |
| thafreak | make your root partition atleast 100gb | 14:59 |
| paultag | what the fuck | 14:59 |
| thafreak | it's totally written by some scientist who plays linux admin in his basement | 14:59 |
| paultag | The install will begin installing the base system then ask for the creation of the root password and to create a new user. It is suggested to skip the step of creating a new user. | 15:00 |
| thafreak | nothing wrong with playing linux admin, but you're not going to be following best practicies | 15:00 |
| paultag | fucking what?! | 15:00 |
| thafreak | oh yeah | 15:00 |
| paultag | so fucking gross | 15:00 |
| paultag | so fucking gross | 15:00 |
| paultag | I can't even stand this | 15:00 |
| thafreak | and they use debian because they built debian packages to install their stuff...which...well lets just say it wwas a nightmare installing it | 15:01 |
| paultag | thafreak: do you have access to the .dsc files? | 15:01 |
| paultag | the debian source bits | 15:01 |
| thafreak | basically if you don't follow those directions TO THE LETTER...the install of their packages will totally fail | 15:01 |
| thafreak | oh yeah, it's all open | 15:01 |
| paultag | thafreak: could you link me? | 15:01 |
| paultag | thafreak: I'd like to audit the dsc | 15:01 |
| thafreak | but their one package installs a shell script in /root....that you then run to do the rest of the install... | 15:02 |
| thafreak | bwahahaha | 15:02 |
| thafreak | you like pain eh? | 15:02 |
| paultag | please don't ruin my fun | 15:02 |
| paultag | I go off on little tiny problems | 15:02 |
| thafreak | "We've used Debian packages to simplify the installation of HUBzero on your own hardware. Follow the instructions on this page:" | 15:02 |
| paultag | you should have seen this one package "manager" I saw | 15:02 |
| thafreak | yeah? | 15:03 |
| paultag | thafreak: all pascal | 15:03 |
| thafreak | yast? :-P | 15:03 |
| paultag | thafreak: tons of os.system calls | 15:03 |
| thafreak | was it yast :) | 15:03 |
| paultag | basically a shell script | 15:03 |
| paultag | in pascal | 15:03 |
| paultag | to test if one was root, it tried to write to /etc/sudoers | 15:03 |
| paultag | anyone could fuck the daemon up | 15:04 |
| thafreak | can't seem to find their source, but this may point you in the right direction: | 15:04 |
| thafreak | deb-src http://packages.hubzero.org/deb buck main contrib non-free | 15:05 |
| paultag | # apt-get purge linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64 | 15:05 |
| paultag | >:( | 15:05 |
| paultag | thafreak: ah, eyp, thanks | 15:05 |
| paultag | thafreak: which is the "main" deb package | 15:05 |
| paultag | thafreak: http://packages.hubzero.org/deb/pool/main/h/ | 15:05 |
| thafreak | so...wait...how do you write a shell script in pascal? | 15:05 |
| paultag | thafreak: os.system("bash foo") | 15:05 |
| paultag | thafreak: os.system("bash bzr") | 15:06 |
| paultag | thafreak: os.system("bash baz") | 15:06 |
| thafreak | apt-get install hubzero-config | 15:06 |
| paultag | ty | 15:06 |
| thafreak | OH so it was a pascal program that did system calls to run bash? what's the point? | 15:06 |
| thafreak | brb | 15:06 |
| paultag | UGH | 15:07 |
| paultag | holy fucking shit | 15:07 |
| paultag | it's so bad | 15:08 |
| paultag | Section: main | 15:08 |
| paultag | the fuck? | 15:08 |
| paultag | what does that even mean? | 15:08 |
| paultag | invalid control | 15:08 |
| paultag | invalid description | 15:09 |
| paultag | 11 warnings and errors - 1 is enough to rejcet from the archive | 15:09 |
| thafreak | thought you'd like that ;) | 15:09 |
| thafreak | oh it's only made to support lenny | 15:10 |
| paultag | E: hubzero-config source: missing-dh_python-build-dependency | 15:10 |
| thafreak | it's a total hackjob | 15:10 |
| paultag | jesus christ | 15:10 |
| paultag | thafreak: and this is just the config | 15:10 |
| thafreak | they would have been better off distributing it as a puppet/chef recipe | 15:10 |
| paultag | db_input critical hubzero-config/passwd-hubdb || true | 15:11 |
| paultag | then it's NOT FUCKING CRITICAL | 15:11 |
| thafreak | well the config installs an installer script that seems to do most of the other work...like installing their other packages | 15:11 |
| thafreak | in fact, I'm probably (if I EVER get time) going to re-design their whole installer as puppet/chef/whatever recipe | 15:11 |
| paultag | holy shit | 15:11 |
| paultag | this was 2010 | 15:11 |
| paultag | in his notes: | 15:12 |
| paultag | hubname shortname (mixed case)? really? | 15:12 |
| paultag | hz-install.tmpl script is copied into /root and is run with | 15:12 |
| paultag | GAHD! | 15:12 |
| paultag | purge doesn't remove /etc/hubzero.conf and /etc/hubzero.secrets | 15:12 |
| paultag | that's a pretty big bug | 15:12 |
| _bbb_ | sudo make me a sandwich | 15:12 |
| paultag | upgrade, remove and install will fail | 15:12 |
| paultag | emr, not install | 15:13 |
| paultag | upgrade | 15:13 |
| paultag | so many empty scripts | 15:13 |
| thafreak | my new favorite quote: | 15:13 |
| thafreak | "All hackers are not criminals, just as all criminals are not hackers. Stop being racist!" - Thomas Jefferson | 15:13 |
| _bbb_ | Give me liberty or give me xbox | 15:14 |
| paultag | this is such huge shit | 15:14 |
| Unit193 | _bbb_: Nice :D | 15:14 |
| thafreak | like i said, if you don't follow their install instructions TO THE LETTER, the whole thing fails miserably and the packages can't install...and like you said, you can't purge them and try again | 15:15 |
| paultag | thafreak: His simple package (only config stuff) to install one file | 15:15 |
| paultag | $ cat `find . -type f` | wc -l | 15:15 |
| paultag | 862 | 15:15 |
| thafreak | I had to re-install the OS like 3 times before I gave up and followed their instructions to the letter (well mostly) | 15:15 |
| paultag | thafreak: my binary which I wrote, huge and has tons of moving parts | 15:15 |
| paultag | $ cat `find . -type f` | wc -l | 15:15 |
| paultag | 93 | 15:15 |
| paultag | >:( | 15:16 |
| thafreak | told you...scientists should stop pretending their computer scientists... | 15:16 |
| paultag | I'd say so | 15:16 |
| paultag | that's such horsecrap | 15:16 |
| thafreak | that show big bang theory makes it seem like physicists know everything about computer science as well | 15:16 |
| paultag | hahaha | 15:17 |
| paultag | yrite | 15:17 |
| thafreak | and comic books | 15:17 |
| thafreak | i know plenty of physicists who probably can't name more than the few comic book characters that everyone on the planet knows | 15:17 |
| paultag | thafreak: what crap | 15:18 |
| paultag | ok, rm -rf time | 15:18 |
| paultag | that package can no longer exist | 15:18 |
| * paultag shudders | 15:18 | |
| thafreak | anyway...damn...i got to learn joomla in 10 minutes | 15:18 |
| paultag | thafreak: gl! | 15:18 |
| paultag | thafreak: feel free to use my little review | 15:18 |
| thafreak | hey, if i can pass the lpic-2 without studying, AND being really really hung over...I can do anything | 15:18 |
| paultag | thafreak: +1 | 15:18 |
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