[09:54] <htorque> DBO: hi! are you aware that the launcher doesn't unhide from the _top_ two pixels? i only found bug 839677 about the bottom-left corner (it's also two pixels there).
[12:24] <Andy80> hi all
[12:25] <Andy80> andyrock: after "italian stallions" we also have "italian moles" :\ since our minister Gelmini pretend we have built a 750 km tunnel between Abruzzo and CERN -.-
[12:33] <htorque> Andy80: "Il superamento della velocità della luce è una vittoria epocale per la ricerca scientifica di tutto il mondo." sounds funny as well :D
[12:34]  * Andy80 sad :\
[12:35] <htorque> come on, it's not like he's the minister for education and research. oh, wait... :P
[12:41] <andyrock> Andy80, what? really?
[12:42] <Andy80> andyrock: yes, sad but true http://www.repubblica.it/scuola/2011/09/24/news/gaffe_gelmini-22159174/?ref=HRER2-1
[12:45] <andyrock> Andy80, so sad :/ but you made a mistake :)
[12:45] <andyrock> it's not "our minister"
[12:45] <andyrock> at least it not "my"
[12:45] <andyrock> *it's
[12:51] <andyrock> htorque, btw do you speak italian? :)
[12:55] <htorque> ho studiato l'italiano a scuola, but today i cannot even order a pizza in italian :P
[13:01] <andyrock> htorque, cool :)
[14:13] <htorque> andyrock: hi, what do you think: should i edit title and description of bug 839677 as this is also a problem in the top-left corner, or better open a new bug report (haven't found one)?
[14:14] <andyrock> htorque, change the title
[14:14] <htorque> will do
[14:14] <andyrock> thx :)
[14:15] <andyrock> htorque, i'm quite busy... i've just formatted for mistake my brother usb pen drive
[14:15] <andyrock> fixing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/814610
[14:15] <htorque> testdisk? :)
[14:16] <andyrock> yeah
[14:16] <htorque> if you overwrote the pen drive, buy him a beer, else you should be able to restore everything. ;)
[14:18] <andyrock> some time ago i formatted for mistake my brother hard disk
[14:18] <andyrock> during the thesis...
[14:18] <andyrock> :/
[14:20] <htorque> when i wrote my master thesis i had like six backups :D
[14:20] <andyrock> heheheh....
[14:20] <htorque> happened too often that i rm'ed the wrong stuff
[14:20] <andyrock> so i'm quite able to recovery formatted data :)
[14:20] <htorque> anyways, good luck! :)
[14:34] <andyrock> htorque, pen drive data recoveried and bug fixed M)
[14:34] <andyrock> ;)
[14:34] <htorque> \o/
[14:45] <andyrock> htorque, http://people.ubuntu.com/~andyrock/Format.png
[14:46] <htorque> sweet :)
[14:48] <andyrock> the dialog is of gnome-tweak-tool...
[14:48] <andyrock> *sorry gnome-disk-tool
[18:30] <koud> Hello, I wonder if there has been some discussin regarding input meathods
[18:37] <koud> I am not sure if this is something that should be discussed here, but I think the way input methods for different languages are working in ubuntu (and other buntu versions) is very confusing for users and not convenient.
[19:26] <andyrock> htorque, present?
[19:26] <htorque> yes
[19:32] <andyrock> htorque, i've a test for you
[19:32] <andyrock> :)
[19:32] <andyrock> can you?
[19:32] <htorque> sure
[19:32] <andyrock> type alt+f1
[19:32] <andyrock> than down down...
[19:33] <htorque> getting sea sick
[19:33] <andyrock> with key nav still active try to drag the launcher down
[19:34] <htorque> hello crash
[19:37] <htorque> shouldn't alt+f1 highlight the bfb? i see no feedback whatsoever until pressing the down arrow. plus, when pressing the down arrow it's jumping up and down (i have an overfull launcher bar).
[19:37] <andyrock> htorque, yeah they're different bug
[19:38] <andyrock> but when you try to drag the launcher using the mouse with key nav active
[19:38] <andyrock> do you get a crash?
[19:38] <andyrock> *different bugs
[19:40] <htorque> andyrock: yes. tried it two times, both times got a crash.
[19:41] <htorque> i'm just looking for the other issues. the ubuntu item not highlighted is nothing too serious, but that jumping when navigating downwards is awful.
[19:41] <htorque> do you have time to get a backtrace for the crash?
[19:41] <htorque> else i could do it
[19:43] <htorque> crash is in nux::WindowCompositor::MouseEventCycle
[19:46] <htorque> good, first one is bug 849561
[20:01] <htorque> andyrock: if you see this too: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/80869694/jump-around.ogv - please confirm bug 858469
[20:07] <htorque> andyrock: bug 831678 shows a similar stacktrace (just starts different)
[20:31] <andyrock> htorque, sorry not at pc... giving a look right now ;)
[20:33] <andyrock> htorque, you should open another bug for the freeze
[20:34] <andyrock> also if the stacktrace is quite similar
[20:34] <andyrock> since the procedures to get them is very different ;)
[20:35] <andyrock> brb
[20:35] <htorque> yeah, will do, just have to install some more -dbgsym stuff first. at least that's finally an easy to reproduce bug :)
[20:37] <andyrock> htorque, thx
[20:45] <htorque> andyrock: bug 858494 - wasn't sure about the package. just used nux like the other two crashes in that method.
[20:51] <htorque> andyrock: now i got a test for you: move your mouse over the launcher bar (i'm not sure if needs to be "filled") then press alt+f1 → do you get a crash?
[20:53] <andyrock> htorque, just a moment
[20:54] <andyrock> htorque, i've confirmed the two reported bug
[20:55] <htorque> i see, thanks!
[20:55] <andyrock> htorque, and i get a crash too
[20:55] <andyrock> moving the mouse and pressing alt+f1
[20:56] <andyrock> htorque, in general i get a crash if i press alt+f1
[20:56] <andyrock> and the mouse is already in the launcher area
[20:56] <htorque> cool (or not). it seems fine here as lon as i'm not in the launcher area.
[20:57] <andyrock> which hide option do you use?
[20:58] <andyrock> brb
[20:59] <htorque> andyrock: when i tested the crashes, "never hide"
[21:07] <htorque> andyrock: opened it as bug 858502
[21:22] <andyrock> htorque, confirmed
[21:22] <andyrock> they are all critical bugs
[21:23] <andyrock> but i cannot change the their importance
[21:23] <andyrock> om26er will do it ;)
[21:23] <andyrock> nice work
[21:24] <htorque> om26er will probably close them as dupes - as he always does with my reports this cycle. :D
[21:26] <htorque> also interesting: alt+f1 (mouse outside of the launcher bar area), push mouse over launcher area, press down key a couple of times → no jumping around.
[21:26] <htorque> will add this to the bug report
[21:44] <andyrock> htorque, launcher keynav is quite bugged
[21:44] <andyrock> :/
[21:44] <andyrock> and don't worry for dupe