[00:02] <valorie> there was someone crying over lack of dlna the other day
[00:02] <valorie> rrix?
[00:02] <valorie>  not sure
[00:03] <apachelogger> it is a tricky thing to do
[00:03] <valorie> highly integrated sounds good though
[00:04]  * apachelogger only delivers the best
[00:07] <claydoh> oooh dlna sos I can get all my medias on my new phone
[00:07] <claydoh> which still has not arrived :(
[00:08] <ScottK> apachelogger: You could help svuorela rewrite knotify.\
[00:08] <ScottK> That could probably use phonon.
[00:12] <apachelogger> too depressed
[00:12] <apachelogger> though we are on it
[00:12] <apachelogger> phonon that is
[00:12] <apachelogger> we are going to throw out a whole new api that is centered around notifications
[00:12] <apachelogger> with sample caching and all that mambo jumbo
[00:13]  * ScottK thought Aaron gave a very inspired vision about knotify today.
[00:13] <apachelogger> didn't read it yet
[00:13] <apachelogger> gosh
[00:13] <apachelogger> he and his long mails
[00:15] <apachelogger> ok
[00:15] <apachelogger> tldr
[00:15] <apachelogger> especially on half a bottle of vodka
[00:16] <apachelogger> someone should totally figure out how to do desktop file translations for own software nowadays
[00:16] <apachelogger> ScottK: do you happen to know whether super mario is still close with fglrx stuff?
[00:17] <apachelogger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/695704/ makes the flgrx control center thing show up in systemsettings
[02:32] <ScottK> apachelogger: No, I don't.
[08:51] <bulldog98> rbelem: pong
[10:11] <bambee> morning
[10:12] <yofel_> moin
[10:14] <bambee> France - New Zealand => 17 - 37 :D
[10:16] <yofel> ah, I actually saw part of the game on television, not one of my favorite games...
[10:25] <shadeslayer> \o
[10:41] <bambee> ScottK: where can I find the package set used by the preinstalled images ?
[10:42] <bambee> (I build a preinstalled image for my ac100)
[10:43] <bambee> (a kubuntu preinstalled image)
[10:43] <shadeslayer> bambee: look at the manifest files
[10:45] <bambee> ok
[12:10] <bambee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/696131/ <--- line 4682
[12:18] <yofel> bambee: line 4415
[12:18] <bambee> yofel: good catch ;)
[12:19] <bambee> python-support is missing
[12:19] <yofel> that's supposed to be deprecated
[12:19] <yofel> so I guess apt-xapian-index needs fixing
[12:23] <bambee> mhhh
[12:26] <yofel> bug 856627
[12:27] <yofel> bug 858099
[14:54] <ScottK> bambee and yofel: I just accepted a fixed apt-xapian-index.
[15:03] <debfx> digikam failed to build on armel and powerpc in case someone is interested in fixing these
[15:27] <debfx> ScottK: i've uploaded strigi 0.7.6
[15:56] <ScottK> debfx: Great.  I'll have a look.
[15:57] <ScottK> (at strigi)
[16:10] <ScottK> debfx: accepted.
[16:11] <debfx> thanks
[17:00] <yofel> did someone test the natty 4.7.1 backports?
[17:31] <bambee> ScottK: great, thanks!
[17:35] <shadeslayer> yofel: from staging?
[17:35] <yofel> yes
[17:35] <shadeslayer> iirc i heard someone in #kubuntu saying that all went fine, lemme see
 yay
 I'm on KDE 4.7 now
 and wow, it's so slick
[17:37] <yofel> he probably meant the backports
[17:37] <yofel> but 4.7.0 not 4.7.1
[17:37] <yofel> as staging isn't exactly publi
[17:37] <yofel> c
[17:38] <shadeslayer> maybe, can't really say, s/he's not online either
[17:45] <shadeslayer> yofel: we could ask users in #kubuntu to do some testing
[17:46] <yofel> then I could just as well copy it over to backports, which I'll do if I get no other testing till tomorrow evening
[18:12]  * yofel does another attempt at fixing bug 553557
[18:13] <yofel> seems kubuntu-notification-helper still spawns defunct kded4 processes
[18:15] <claydoh> shadeslayer: yofel I can post in kubuntuforums but do we want to use staging as a place for testing? Often staging is broken so users will have problems and complaints
[18:16] <yofel> claydoh: no, all I want is maybe 2 more devs here that can check if there are issues
[18:16] <claydoh> happens occasionally - users do not read warnings :) 
[18:16] <yofel> staging isn't for public testing
[18:16] <shadeslayer> well, not on forums, because you never know what they'll read
[18:16] <shadeslayer> yeah
[18:16] <claydoh> well it went with no hitches on my desktop/media center setup
[18:16] <claydoh> :)
[18:17] <yofel> claydoh: 4.7.1 ?
[18:17] <shadeslayer> claydoh: add it to the wiki!
[18:17] <claydoh> yes, from staging
[18:17] <yofel> good, one more tester please ^^
[18:17] <claydoh> my desktop is no mission-critical
[18:19] <claydoh> at least when I am not using xbmc that is
[18:21] <schnelle> hi devs sorry to bother you again with this bug but if you can please backport fix to oneiric: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=281804
[18:21] <schnelle> video of the bug: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPA_bC4mJl8
[18:22] <schnelle> it is an oxygen style bug
[19:47] <DarkwingDuck> What is the minimum required specs for Kubuntu?
[19:47] <DarkwingDuck> I was doing a bit for UserDays and someone asked that. I couldn't find it.
[19:53] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: yer software has bugs
[19:55] <shadeslayer> DarkwingDuck: should be same as ubuntu afaik
[19:55] <shadeslayer> i have a 10.10 CD lying around that i can check, one sec
[19:56] <shadeslayer> 256 MB's of RAM, 4 GB's of HDD space ... sounds like the same as ubuntu to me
[19:57] <DarkwingDuck> Anything about video card?
[19:58] <maco> no
[19:58] <shadeslayer> nope
[19:58] <maco> plasma works fine in 2d mode
[19:58] <maco> *cough* unlike ubuntu, kubuntu looks the same on hardware and in a vm *cough*
[19:58] <shadeslayer> lol
[19:59] <yofel> unity and unity-2d don't look the same?
[19:59] <shadeslayer> nope
[19:59] <yofel> bwahahaha
[19:59] <maco> and 11.04 didnt ship with unity-2d
[19:59] <maco> so it was unity on hardware and gnome in a vm
[19:59] <yofel> that I know, and I made fun of it back then too, but I thought that unity and unity-2d would fix that o.O
[20:00] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: after changing the server via software-properties-kde, qaptworker starts refreshing the cache even though i told it not to refresh the cache
[20:00] <DarkwingDuck> I though that was the case but, I wanted to make sure.
[20:01] <maco> yofel:  going by the video on omgubuntu, it looks like unity 2d doesnt put the window close buttons in the top bar, only visible on hover, for one thing
[20:01] <maco> the launcher also looks quite a bit different than i remember it looking on unity
[20:01] <yofel> JontheEchidna: poke me when you're back, I tried to use muon software center on a fresh oneiric install on my dads PC, but no matter what I did it always told me I had another package manager running
[20:02] <yofel> apt worked fine though
[20:02] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: although , i might be wrong and s-p-k might be at fault here, but a fix would be appreciated :)
[20:03] <jjesse> yofel on my fresh install on my netbook in beta 1 and fully updated i have had no problems w/ muon
[20:06] <DarkwingDuck> I love muon. I still use apt but, muon is good.
[20:23] <allee> yofel: packagekit at work in your installation?
[20:28] <yofel> allee: we ship packagekit by default in oneiric?
[20:29] <allee> yofel: lemme check ...
[20:30] <yofel> packagekit isn't installed here, and shouldn't be in the default install either since nothing uses it
[22:23] <JontheEchidna> shadeslayer: where do you tell it not to refresh the cache at?
[22:24] <JontheEchidna> yofel: could be a stale dpkg lock file hanging around
[22:25] <yofel> JontheEchidna: not sure, apt didn't complain, I'll try if I can reproduce it again
[22:25] <yofel> JontheEchidna: and the refresh is after you change the mirror and close software-properties-kde
[22:26] <JontheEchidna> right, but where do you tell anything to not refresh afterwards?
[22:26] <yofel> it then tells you to refresh the cache with [Refresh] and [Cancel]
[22:26] <yofel> clicking either button refreshes the cache
[22:26] <JontheEchidna> hmm, I'm not getting that dialog when I launch s-p-kde from muon
[22:26] <yofel> me neither I think, but you do get it from muon-installer
[22:27] <JontheEchidna> oh, then it's a bug w/ software-properties-kde, it handles the refresh in that case
[22:59] <JontheEchidna> brb