[00:01] * gnomie ponders the advance of technologies.. solid state societies! :o [01:29] im logging in as root automatically for some reason on 11.10 [01:29] ? [01:30] sounds like you're at the wrong runlevel [01:30] whats that? [01:30] look it up [01:30] lol [01:31] im googling the prob as we chat [01:31] you're kind of in a troubleshooting mode [01:31] is their a terminal command? [01:32] sudo passwd -l root [01:32] if you init 1 or 2 or whatever, you will reboot as root [01:32] will that perminantly disable my root acess? [01:33] you are root [01:34] some linux folk would consider that bliss [01:36] well on 11.10 when it happens the full desktop fails to load [01:36] im preatty stuck [01:37] i tried to reconfig lighdm an gdm [01:42] when lighdm come up for example, an i choose KDE, an empty session of unity comes up with only the unity panel. [01:43] one question, whats the command to start KDE from terminal? [01:46] WARN 2011-09-23 20:46:35 glib.glib-gobject :0 instance of invalid non-instantiatable type `(null)' [01:46] WARN 2011-09-23 20:46:36 glib :0 Unable to fetch children: Method "Children" with signature "" on interface "org.ayatana.bamf.view" doesn't exist [01:47] when i attempt to turn off auto login with system setting i get that errot [01:47] r [02:07] flash appears not to be using pulseaudio, and it looks like an amd64/multiarch related issue. Anyone else noticed this? [02:11] funkyHat: https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=2968177 [02:22] it uses pulse through alsa here [02:24] that bug only talks about recording, not playback [02:25] amusing that adobe says it doesn't have time to fix the bug, though [02:31] oneiric is getting me down [02:33] it's hanging on DHCP during install unless i remove the network cable [02:33] and installing the nvidia drivers broke the entire system [02:33] * kilrae bashes his computer a little more [02:34] Yep that will sort it [02:34] sometimes it helps [02:34] show it i'm serious, you know? === sagaci_ is now known as sagaci [03:18] I just tried updating from 11.04 to the 11.10 beta using update-manager -d [03:18] now I can't boot the system :( are there known bugs? [03:19] i saw one about updating on the website, something about it not working [03:19] i think for amd64 [03:20] where might I find that? which website? [03:21] dooglus, what happens when you try to boot? [03:21] urlin2u: for a long time now, I've been puzzled as to why I get a blue screen with 'kubuntu 11.04' on it when I boot [03:21] urlin2u: I never found a way to get back to the black ubuntu 11.04 boot screen [03:22] urlin2u: and now when I boot I get the same kubuntu 11.10 screen, for a long time [03:22] dooglus, what is the graphic chip/ [03:22] urlin2u: then it says "waiting for network", then "waiting up to 60 seconds for network", then "booting without network", then nothing [03:22] urlin2u: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) [03:23] or maybe 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) [03:23] nothing special, anyway [03:24] dooglus, there has been an broken in distro update for the last two days, this besides any previous problems may be part of this [03:24] I have booted a live USB - the first that came to hand was CentOS 6, but I doubt it matters [03:24] hard to say though for myself. [03:24] urlin2u: I expect I can chroot into my hdd from the live USB and update or tinker - but don't know what to tinker with... [03:25] urlin2u: do you have a URL refering to the 'broken in distro update'? [03:26] after a while I can ctrl-alt-f2 and get a login prompt, but no networking [03:27] dooglus, it has been all over this channel, and is on the ubuntu forums I'm sure hard to find the exact syntax to search with. [03:28] urlin2u: I'll scroll back through the logs then, thanks [03:29] dooglus, np. === winut_ is now known as winut [03:50] i'm getting really good at typing my decryption passwords at least [03:56] ok nvidia 173 [03:58] ok, no crash, good stuff [04:05] no dual monitors either though [04:05] seems to be a pre-existing bug with 173 [04:05] however current crashes things, so it might not be a good choice [04:06] i find it weird that 173 is the old version offered instead of 175, which worked [04:07] there is no 175 [04:08] there was a 275 [04:08] what hardware is this? [04:08] geforce 9500 [04:08] i thought current was 180 [04:09] and google informs me that it has a memory bug of some kind [04:09] witht hat hardware you should be using nvidia-current [04:10] i tried it [04:10] it will work [04:11] i'm going to try again in a few minutes [04:12] the computer is restarting [04:18] kilrae, did it work or not? [04:18] restarting again, the prior restart was for updates [04:19] before you do that you can run a couple of commands to test it [04:19] it's already booting [04:20] so far no crashy [04:21] what commands did you have in mind? [04:24] Beta 2 released yesterday? [04:25] yup [04:27] excellent, dual monitors [05:33] Is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8284273 still the best guide for removing pulseaudio and using only ALSA? [05:43] Hello, folks. I'm on 11.04, and considering the upgrade. I know my system is using grub-uefi, and is a dual-boot system -- I gather that may complicate things. Is that true? [05:47] I'm unclear on how UEFI works. [05:49] First, do a backup, OK? [05:49] grub-efi will not be a problem [05:50] I managed to get the network up, but still can't get any kind of GUI up. am stuck in a virtual console [05:51] when I ran 'ifup wlan0', the network came up, but got an error message that /run/network/ doesn't exist [05:51] macer1, thanks. Is that from experience? [05:51] does /run/network/ exist for anyone else? [05:51] FoolishOwl, well, yes. I am running grub-efi on my macbook :) [05:54] It had me a bit puzzled -- at some point with 11.04, the updater kept asking to replace grub-efi with grub-pc, so I had to keep declining that upgrade. [05:55] oh [05:55] this is interesting... [05:56] I was installing 11.10 beta clean btw. because it contained many efi fixes, including not bricking macs :D [05:57] That's good. I saw a note that the 3.0 kernel has some uefi fixes. [05:57] I've had annoying problems with reboots and shutdowns, and I've seen suggestions that it's connected to UEFI. [06:01] FoolishOwl, my was kernel panic when trying to reboot or shutdown [06:01] fixed in kernel 3.0 ;) [06:03] Alrighty, then. I'll do the upgrade tomorrow. [06:04] can someone give me a URL to a beta2 i386 ISO please? [06:04] I'm glad Thunderbird is finally the default. [06:06] dooglus: see the links on http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ [06:06] which is straight from the URL in the /topic [06:06] which you should read, because yay release notes [06:08] rww: I don't have a web browser [06:08] rww: since upgrading to 11.10 I can't run X, so want to reinstall [06:08] dooglus: you want Ubuntu rather than Kubuntu or Xubuntu or something, I take it? [06:09] rww: I run xubuntu, but usually start with the ubuntu iso [06:09] dooglus: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-11.10-beta2-desktop-i386.iso [06:09] thanks [06:09] dooglus: ps, w3m is a command-line browser that I find useful in situations like that :) [06:09] rww: I've been struggling to use links2 [06:12] in a probably-unrelated incident, all my odd-numbered function keys have stopped working [06:12] F2 through F12 are ok, F1 through F11 are broken. does this make any sense at all? [06:12] o.O [06:12] that's what I thought [06:12] escape is broken too [06:12] right next to F1 [06:12] all other keys are fine [06:14] I see packages usb-creator-gtk and usb-create-kde. is there a command-line alternative? [06:16] dooglus: you can use dd for oneiric ISOs. sudo dd if=/path/to/file.iso of=/dev/sdX [06:16] dooglus: where X is your USB stick's ID, see dmesg when you plug it in [06:21] rww: I'll check [06:21] (I note that dd only works on ISOs for oneiric (and higher, in the future), not <= natty) [06:21] rww: sdb1? [06:21] dooglus: it'd be sdb [06:22] dooglus: but yeah, that sounds reasonable if you have one hard disk [06:22] rww: I'd prefer to fix my existing install if possible... [06:22] I wouldn't be the person to ask about that, Xorg confuses me :( [06:23] rww: I think the problem is that the upgrade failed to update samba, and quit part way through [06:23] rww: I completed it using apt-get dist-upgrade, but I think there must be more steps to do [06:24] rww: lots of commands I run complain about "Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused" [06:25] dooglus, looks like dbus is not started [06:25] rww: you're sure I dd to /dev/sdb not /dev/sdb1? [06:25] dooglus: yes [06:25] dooglus, try sudo service dbus start [06:25] macer1: what do I use to restart it? [06:25] or restart [06:28] doesn't seem to change anything [06:30] dooglus, maybe because package is not installed correctly [06:31] macer1: I've tried reinstalling dbus [06:32] I tried removing the system_bus_socket too [06:32] but now it complains the file doesn't exist [06:32] I wonder what makes it === gnomie is now known as Guest38606 === Stanley|00 is now known as Stanley00 === eyes_ is now known as EyesIsServer === Jibadeeha is now known as Guest53341 [08:33] hi, I have just upgrade to Beta 2, on a 64bits system and now flash plugin is not working, on some pages it said is missing on other is just displaying a black/blank image where a flash should be appeared [08:38] seems that flash aid addon should help me [08:40] shanky: reinstall the package "flashplugin-downloader" [08:48] iceroot: thanks, but that did not work, although flash-aid addon did :) [09:06] hi folks [09:07] what is happening here? http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/481523/ [09:08] also, i removed lightdm (it wasn't launching any session). now i have to start GDM manually every login, but the boot log shows that GDM and lightdm start (yes i removed lightdm). how do i make gdm to start by login? [09:08] lubosz: source ~.bashrc && wine [09:08] should say "command not found" [09:09] source ~/.bashrc [09:09] i guess the bashrc is loaded when i start the terminal session anyway [09:09] so the first command would not do anything? [09:09] but lets try [09:10] nothing happened [09:10] source loads the env values from bashrc. which is loaded anyways [09:10] wine is obviously in the path [09:10] lubosz: its relaoding PATH imo [09:13] lubosz: try dpkg-reconfigure gdm [09:14] Amaranth: thx i try that [09:15] lubosz: what do you get for ls -l /usr/bin/wine? [09:16] owned by root, no symlink [09:16] its from the wine1.3 package from the winehq ppa [09:16] i guess [09:16] i hope its a 11.10 package [09:16] lubosz: dpkg -S /usr/bin/wine will tell you the package [09:16] yeah, i did that [09:17] http://paste.pocoo.org/show/481527/ [09:17] hm it does not say if its a 11.10 package [09:17] i cant spell the freaking release name [09:17] oreinic [09:17] whatever [09:18] lubosz: i was hoping to see if /usr/bin/wine was executable [09:18] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9688 2011-09-16 06:49 /usr/bin/wine [09:18] yes it seems so [09:20] hi all - since a few weeks ago, my 11.10 system is not recognising the mac address of the NIC - so no network at bootup [09:20] lubosz: do you have anything in your .bashrc, .profile, or .bash_aliases that changes wine? [09:20] I can fix using ifconfig eth0 down; ifconfig eth0 hw ether ; ifconfig eth0 up [09:20] Smedles: ifconfig -a is not showing eth0 with a mac? [09:20] but it's a pita [09:21] mac is showing as ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff [09:21] i do only have a custom bashrc, but it should not change anythin wine related [09:21] which is clearly incorrect [09:21] i try another user [09:21] same thing for the root [09:21] Smedles: if you enable pxe-boot at start-up is there a correct mac shown? [09:22] Smedles: at the pxe-boot-part [09:22] iceroot: pxe-boot in the bios you mean? [09:22] Smedles: correct, also called network-boot [09:22] or how do I enable pxe-boot [09:22] the bashrc is preetty much vanilla ubuntu [09:22] or netboot [09:22] ok will try that from the bios [09:22] Smedles: maybe also the mac is shown in bios [09:22] need to reboot for updates anyway [09:22] couldn't see the mac shown in bios [09:23] Smedles: also have a look at /etc/udev/rules.d/ for the persistent-netrules things if there is something set to the wrong mac [09:23] Smedles: udev is setting the eth-names depending on the mac, also you can set the mac to something else there [09:24] it has: [09:24] # PCI device 0x10ec:0x8168 (r8169) [09:24] SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="1c:6f:65:c6:1d:b8", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0" [09:24] which is the mac of the onboard nic [09:24] Smedles: that means that this mac always will be eth0 [09:25] shanky: if you have another nic with a different mac it will never be eth0, also if its the only nic, it will never be eth0 [09:25] shanky: wrong nick [09:25] SmedlesTP: ^ [09:26] I am using the onboard nic with that address [09:26] hmmm pxe boot shows the client mac addr as ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff [09:26] so seems my problem is hardware related :/ [09:27] SmedlesTP: yes then its a "hardware" issue [09:28] SmedlesTP: i know some cases where aq bios-update was setting the4 mqac to an incorrect value [09:28] sorry, eeepc keyboard... [09:31] will check gigabyte website for bios updates [09:42] let's see if the reflash of bios helped, rebooting now [09:44] nope - guess I'll contact gigabyte [09:50] can i install 32bit dev dependencies on a 64bit system? the thing ia-32 did last time? [09:50] http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/481536/ [09:53] i think you all the 32bit [09:55] depends, if the dependencies are multiarch same, elso no [09:56] jtaylor: how would you recommend to install the wine dependnecies? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/481538/ [09:59] install it in a 32bit chroot [10:01] also. do you think these are my drivers, or does the gnome packaging need some love? http://i.imgur.com/0emST.png [10:01] gnome 3.0 worked fine with the same nvidia driver on 11.04 [10:01] gnome 3.1 works fine with the same driver on archlinux [10:05] iceroot: thanks for your time - a bios reset did the trick - as in short the jumpers on the mainboard === yofel_ is now known as yofel === pythonsnake is now known as Python === Python is now known as pythonsnake [10:38] Smedles: great :) [11:14] fluxbox works on 11.10 ? [11:37] @.o [11:47] don't know what's going on but system is freezing up on me. apport isn't catching anything; system monitor reports 100% cpu but all processes seem quiet. TOP isn't seeing anything either but only sys monitor reports 100% cpu; regarless, system is unstable. expecting to freeze over anytime soon... [11:48] o.@ [11:48] when you say freeze does anything respond - e.g. capslock, can you ping it on the network? [11:48] frozen like dead penguin [11:48] no response [11:48] :-( [11:49] hmm - anything in the logs ? [11:49] am afraid to even open nautilus to check [11:52] there is a couple crashes in unity-2d-places and gtk-logout-helper [which i know has been reported already] [11:53] "apport: report /var/crash/_usr_lib_indicator-session_gtk-logout-helper.104.crash already exists and unseen, doing nothing to avoid disk usage DoS" [11:53] that sounds like a good one to blame [12:00] whatever is in /var/crash is stuff already reported by apport [12:00] ? [12:01] i mean, whats the difference between /var/crash and /var/log [12:02] /var/crash is only where something has figured something has crashed - it's almost external to the thing that crashed; /var/log is just logs of some things that happen - not necessarily crashes [12:03] alright [12:06] * gnomie searches launchpad for usr_lib_gnome_settings_daemon [12:07] i got something on that [12:09] i suggest to back up often.. ubuntuone is working out fine so far, use it [12:11] ha! there are like a hundred dups of the gtk-logout-helper bug [12:11] sigh [12:12] 'medium importance' 0.o [12:14] it affects quite a lot of folk, on both 386 and x86_64 architectures [12:14] none seem to have proper debugging symbols tho [12:15] bug 852343 [12:15] Launchpad bug 852343 in indicator-session (Ubuntu) "gtk-logout-helper crashed with signal 5 in __libc_start_main()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852343 [12:33] sike. still here. cool [12:36] Howdy all [12:36] this isn't looking good for deadline [12:40] gnomie, just arrived so what isn't looking good for deadline? [12:41] 11.04 was pretty decent on this hardware here. this is nothing short of horrible from a usability standpoint [by comparison] :( my current confidence in oneiric isn't improving today. at least i was able to successfully install, so there is some hope [12:44] is any one having problem with Atheros AR285 when It ry to connect to wireless it crushes my whole system [12:44] thunderbird has some interface issues in its plugin section, although everything does work .. if you can get past all the flickering [12:53] anyone know why apt is giving me all kinds of errors like: W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com oneiric-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key [12:54] just ran a youtube video [flash started working again] but everything on screen is going at 10 frames per second. and i mean not just the video [12:56] hmm [12:57] i cant install my wireless drivers after update 2 [12:57] * beta 2 [12:57] broadcom [12:57] it gives me the driver but wont let me install it [12:57] broadcom STA [12:57] any hints ? [12:57] SirFunk: try follow this link http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75813.html [13:00] hmm [13:00] annoying >.< [13:01] says its blacklisted [13:01] in log [13:05] worked extremely well [13:06] hmm [13:16] hello ? :p [13:28] i know what it is.. it's the y2k12 bug! :o [13:29] those mayans, i tell ya [13:52] guud afternuun [13:56] hey FernandoMiguel [13:56] Hi [13:57] does 11.10 have a break effect when windows is closed ? [13:57] a break effect? [13:57] yeah [13:58] like glasses [13:58] which means what? [13:58] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uff_XHKFqgg [13:58] 1:03 [13:59] or it's a custom effect? [14:00] will the updated kernel with powerregression fix be released for testing in beta? [14:00] or do I need to add some ppa? [14:00] alright [14:01] the 11.10b1 failed for me today (didnt start the network manager indicator) so I reformated and installed 11.10b2 [14:01] this one doesnt boot for me however [14:01] something is dragging in gnome-session-fallback [14:02] why? [14:20] Were all the music stores removed in Ryhthmbox in 11.10? [14:22] how to install ubuntu without ubiquity_ [14:23] robotti^: Use the alternate install CD [14:23] I think you can install a plugin Pilif12p [14:24] Ian_Corne: any idea which one? [14:24] penguin42: there is no means to install from cli [14:24] * Pilif12p likes that store which he can't remember the name of that has free indie music on it [14:24] I just must download alternate install cd [14:25] is it so [14:25] Pilif12p: they're in banshee now [14:25] robotti^: I'm not sure, there is a 'debian installer' package that might do it, never tried it though [14:26] penguin42: just type debian installer [14:26] okay [14:26] * Pilif12p sighs [14:33] and i have another question... [14:33] Why does Firefox open a new window when I click a link anywhere, that's not in Firefox or Thunderbird [14:33] Just a new window with my homepage [14:36] does mousekeys work in 11.10 b2? [14:37] As far as I know, it does. I use sticky keys here. [14:37] how do I enable them? [14:38] You have to open the dash, then search for accessibility [14:42] robotti^: there is the Ubuntu minimal CD. it will only install the CLI. After that, you can boot into the CLI and install more stuff as you want. [14:42] rigved: alternate cd do [14:43] rigved: or if you have internet, use net boot CD [14:43] robotti^: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [14:44] Stanley00: robotti^ asked for a cli way, so i suggested the minimal cd. i think that it is the same as the netinst cd of debian or what you were suggesting. [14:44] rigved: sorry, my bad ;) [14:45] Stanley00: np :) === JanC_ is now known as JanC [15:21] anybody know how to change the top window border in gnome shell? === Pilif12p is now known as GoHawks [15:24] what's the command to change keyboard's location/country ? [15:24] there's setxkbmap [15:25] and there for tty's dpkg-reconfigure [15:26] Ian_Corne, what follows the setxkbmap command [15:26] ? [15:28] be give azerty [15:28] en_us gives qwerty [15:28] only things I know :p [15:34] roasted, you can change theme settings in gnome-tweak-tool [15:35] whats what I thought, but Im not seeing the option I remember. I just found a hit on reddit within gnome tweak so let me check it out... [15:37] ah, yup. does nothing :( [15:37] so all of my windows are ambiance except the title bar [15:37] the title bar is this ugly windows 95 looking thing [15:38] doesnt seem as if ubuntu has alt F2 functionality anymore to restart the window manager?? [15:38] for run program" [15:39] roasted: Alt+F2 has been integrated into the dash. [15:47] rigved, what do you mean the dash? I'm in gnome shell [15:49] roasted: oh. sorry my mistake. i was talking about unity. [15:49] rigved, yeah... no unity here :P [15:49] although unity is mighty nice this time around, but still quite clunky for my liking [15:50] its nice having both gtk3 based, I can swap between both [15:50] so how would I do that now? the alt f2 for gs? [15:53] hi [15:53] i have gstreamer-ffmpeg and gstreamer-ugly installed but i still cannot play m4b files with aac audio [15:53] what can i do about that? [15:54] ps: i'm using banshee [15:54] hmmm [15:54] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/845653 [15:54] Ubuntu bug 856884 in unity (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #845653 Running unity --reset breaks metacity keyboard shortcut defaults" [Undecided,Confirmed] [15:54] hope this obvious (yet easy) thing gets fixed [15:54] alt f2 shouldn't have been messed with [15:55] and yet somehow alt f2 still doesnt work even though I just bound it [15:55] nice [15:56] lunch time! thanks guys [16:30] hi i have installed ubuntu 11.10 and finding difficulties to add my programs on the launch short cut [16:31] on launch pad [16:31] that is what we see at the left pane [16:32] can someone help me please [16:33] any body there? [16:33] not at the moment, quiet [16:36] rajeshj: start your application, then it shouldshow up on the launcher, rightclick -> keep in launcher to gkeep it there [16:37] i am seeing only eclise and quit options only [16:38] sorry typo mistake eclipse [16:38] let me tell you what is my requirement [16:39] i have my version eclipse source jars which i have extracted to /opt/eclipse [16:39] i need to add an icon to launcher for this program i.e., /opt/eclipse/eclipse [16:40] I think you need to add a .desktop file for that [16:40] copy some template from /usr/share/applications, modifiy it and install it with desktop-file-install [16:41] ok let me try sir [16:41] or place it in .local/share/applications if you ahve no admin rights [16:46] sir it worked [16:46] i have sudo access [16:47] thanks alot for your help === datastream- is now known as datastream_ [17:33] I reinstalled ubuntu and kept my /home partition. How do I now add my user back and have it use my existing home folder? [17:39] by default homefolder has same name as the user [17:43] I think I found out: "sudo addgroup --gid 1010 chris" then "sudo adduser --no-create-home --uid 1010 --in-group chris chris" [17:45] dooglus: sounds advanced [17:45] id just creat the user again, and manually copy over the stuff from the old home I wanted. [17:45] he would still have to reown the files if his UID changed [17:45] some folders with . in front of them you might not want to copy since they can containsettings you no longer wish [17:46] yes changing permissions, but thats a lot shorter command me thinks [17:46] tomodachi: you'd get a different userid and groupid, and it would be a pain to get everything how it was before [17:47] tomodachi: also, the home folder was encrypted with the ecryptfs stuff, so I wouldn't want to mess with individual files [17:47] is it safe to update and reboot now? [17:47] I heard tell of a 'bad update' recently [17:48]