[00:00] slangasek: Is this issue relevant to a non-upstartified DM? [00:00] (nodm) [00:01] ScottK: only in the sense that a non-upstartified DM won't get pretty splash on shutdown [00:01] the nodm init script could also call initctl emit, though, without itself being upstartified [00:01] It doesn't. [00:02] Most of the point of nodm is to be invisible anyway, so sounds like it doesn't matter. [02:40] doko_: Please retry python-omniorb in the rebuild now. It builds for me locally with the newest dh_python2. [02:40] barry: ^^^ I'm rejecting your upload too. [07:36] ScottK, python-omniorb did build === eyes_ is now known as EyesIsServer === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:01] Hello, I am loking for pointers on where to discuss input methods in ubuntu [14:22] doko_: Cool. [14:23] barry: ^^^ - Win. === JanC_ is now known as JanC [18:16] ScottK, doko_ thanks. i was worrying about what to do with the version numbers for omniorb, but now i don't have to. :) [18:26] has there been anywork done for creating a unified input method experience with ubuntu? [18:27] what group should I get incontact with to discuss input methods? [18:29] ah maybe papercuts [18:43] koud: no, that's not a papercut [18:44] ok where should it be discussed? [18:44] it seems like a simple usability problem to me [18:45] problem is there are both keyboardlayouts and then there are inputmethods under language support [18:45] which makes sense, doesn't it? [18:45] making many layers of changing keyboard language [18:45] no [18:45] it does not [18:45] really? [18:45] yes I can give example [18:45] do you even know what you are talking about then? [18:45] I use swedish and english [18:45] I can change to swedish keyboard layout [18:45] and then I can type swedish [18:45] if I change to korean keyboard layout [18:46] I cant type in korean [18:46] then I need inputmeathod [18:46] but inputmethod include both english and korean together [18:46] so then I suddenly have 2 english [18:46] there is 3rd layer of changing layout [18:46] windows also does this way [18:46] mac does not [18:46] opensolaris does not [18:47] those are only two I know that has easy keyboard language setup [18:47] I suggest you take this up with the person doing whichever GUI config tool it is you are using [18:47] hmm? [18:48] I am using default ubuntu change keyboard layout [18:48] what you are describing is a GUI choice issue [18:48] no [18:48] alright [18:48] enough of you [18:48] welcome to ignore [18:48] oh thats openminded of you [18:48] to let me explain [18:49] I simply don't like your style of discussion [18:49] ok I am sorry [18:49] you don't know what you are talking about but insist on your position firmly [18:50] ok [18:50] how can I find out who is responsible for the GUI? [18:50] I will take your suggestion and ask that person [18:53] do you use multiple keyboard languages? === TerminX_ is now known as TerminX [21:20] what this channel about? [21:21] !topic [21:21] Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic [22:34] cjwatson: hello again. I have "dpkg-gencontrol: warning: Depends field of package elementary-minimal: unknown substitution variable ${germinate:Depends}" errors in recipe builds despite germinate being installed. It produces packages with blank dependencies. How do I fix it? Full log: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/80824082/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-i386.elementary-seed-meta_1.242-0%7E300%7Eoneiric1_BUILDING.txt.gz [22:50] cjwatson: ok, nvm, I've figured out that it's caused by an invalid metapackage map [22:50] thanks!