[00:00] <ScottK> slangasek: Is this issue relevant to a non-upstartified DM?
[00:00] <ScottK> (nodm)
[00:01] <slangasek> ScottK: only in the sense that a non-upstartified DM won't get pretty splash on shutdown
[00:01] <slangasek> the nodm init script could also call initctl emit, though, without itself being upstartified
[00:01] <ScottK> It doesn't.
[00:02] <ScottK> Most of the point of nodm is to be invisible anyway, so sounds like it doesn't matter.
[02:40] <ScottK> doko_: Please retry python-omniorb in the rebuild now.  It builds for me locally with the newest dh_python2.
[02:40] <ScottK> barry: ^^^ I'm rejecting your upload too.
[07:36] <doko_> ScottK, python-omniorb did build
[14:01] <koud> Hello, I am loking for pointers on where to discuss input methods in ubuntu
[14:22] <ScottK> doko_: Cool.
[14:23] <ScottK> barry: ^^^ - Win.
[18:16] <barry> ScottK, doko_ thanks.  i was worrying about what to do with the version numbers for omniorb, but now i don't have to. :)
[18:26] <koud> has there been anywork done for creating a unified input method experience with ubuntu?
[18:27] <koud> what group should I get incontact with to discuss input methods?
[18:29] <koud> ah maybe papercuts
[18:43] <Laibsch> koud: no, that's not a papercut
[18:44] <koud> ok where should it be discussed?
[18:44] <koud> it seems like a simple usability problem to me
[18:45] <koud> problem is there are both keyboardlayouts and then there are inputmethods under language support
[18:45] <Laibsch> which makes sense, doesn't it?
[18:45] <koud> making many layers of changing keyboard language
[18:45] <koud> no
[18:45] <koud> it does not
[18:45] <Laibsch> really?
[18:45] <koud> yes I can give example
[18:45] <Laibsch> do you even know what you are talking about then?
[18:45] <koud> I use swedish and english
[18:45] <koud> I can change to swedish keyboard layout
[18:45] <koud> and then I can type swedish
[18:45] <koud> if I change to korean keyboard layout
[18:46] <koud> I cant type in korean
[18:46] <koud> then I need inputmeathod
[18:46] <koud> but inputmethod include both english and korean together
[18:46] <koud> so then I suddenly have 2 english
[18:46] <koud> there is 3rd layer of changing layout
[18:46] <koud> windows also does this way
[18:46] <koud> mac does not
[18:46] <koud> opensolaris does not
[18:47] <koud> those are only two I know that has easy keyboard language setup
[18:47] <Laibsch> I suggest you take this up with the person doing whichever GUI config tool it is you are using
[18:47] <koud> hmm?
[18:48] <koud> I am using default ubuntu change keyboard layout
[18:48] <Laibsch> what you are describing is a GUI choice issue
[18:48] <koud> no
[18:48] <Laibsch> alright
[18:48] <Laibsch> enough of you
[18:48] <Laibsch> welcome to ignore
[18:48] <koud> oh thats openminded of you
[18:48] <koud> to let me explain
[18:49] <Laibsch> I simply don't like your style of discussion
[18:49] <koud> ok I am sorry
[18:49] <Laibsch> you don't know what you are talking about but insist on your position firmly
[18:50] <koud> ok
[18:50] <koud> how can I find out who is responsible for the GUI?
[18:50] <koud> I will take your suggestion and ask that person
[18:53] <koud> do you use multiple keyboard languages?
[21:20] <zone51> what this channel about?
[21:21] <charlie-tca> !topic
[22:34] <shnatsel> cjwatson: hello again. I have "dpkg-gencontrol: warning: Depends field of package elementary-minimal: unknown substitution variable ${germinate:Depends}" errors in recipe builds despite germinate being installed. It produces packages with blank dependencies. How do I fix it? Full log: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/80824082/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-i386.elementary-seed-meta_1.242-0%7E300%7Eoneiric1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[22:50] <shnatsel> cjwatson: ok, nvm, I've figured out that it's caused by an invalid metapackage map
[22:50] <shnatsel> thanks!