| sammm | OMG I get so much motion sickness from staring at Lara Crofts arse. :( | 00:27 |
|---|---|---|
| sammm | I can't play this game without feeling queezy. :( | 00:28 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Jono Bacon] Unity Lenses and Books - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/09/24/unity-lenses-and-books/ | 02:13 |
| togster | iostat | 07:20 |
| jacobw | morning | 08:10 |
| AlanBell | morning all | 08:11 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 08:12 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: word of warning on the cask | 08:12 |
| czajkowski | the seats are heated | 08:12 |
| czajkowski | dear gods it gets hot in there | 08:12 |
| MartijnVdS | eww? | 08:12 |
| AlanBell | the bench seats you mean? | 08:13 |
| czajkowski | yeah | 08:13 |
| czajkowski | and they get pipping hot | 08:13 |
| czajkowski | place wasn't nearly as full as thursday night | 08:13 |
| * AlanBell is cool as a cucumber | 08:14 | |
| czajkowski | arrived at 6:30 we had a table booked for about 8 of us | 08:14 |
| czajkowski | had a lot of the passion fruit beer | 08:14 |
| czajkowski | and dear gods their burgers are to die for | 08:14 |
| AlanBell | what was the occasion? | 08:14 |
| czajkowski | jon was meeting up with some ex mates in RH, 2 now work in canonical on kernel team, few more came from google, and then there was me | 08:15 |
| czajkowski | right frenchies v kiwis | 08:15 |
| popey | is there an easy way to tell if you're on unity 3d or 2d in 11.10? | 08:31 |
| czajkowski | hmmm | 08:34 |
| czajkowski | without logging out I'm not sure | 08:34 |
| czajkowski | sorry | 08:34 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Laura Czajkowski] Annoy bug reports - http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/09/24/annoy-bug-reports/ | 09:13 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Laura Czajkowski] Why I love to meet more Ubuntu People - http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/09/24/why-i-love-to-meet-more-ubuntu-people/ | 09:13 |
| AlanBell | popey: if the launcher is black it is 2d, if it is dark aubergine it is 3d | 09:18 |
| popey | is there a way to programmatically tell though? | 09:20 |
| popey | like a particular process running? | 09:20 |
| AlanBell | dunno | 09:21 |
| AlanBell | if onboard can type in the dash, it is 2d | 09:21 |
| popey | heh | 09:21 |
| AlanBell | if orca says every application is called "button" then it is 2d | 09:21 |
| AlanBell | if orca says nothing then it is 3d | 09:21 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 09:24 |
| AlanBell | the cern result looks pretty solid to me, just been going over some of the figures :) | 09:26 |
| swat_ | unity 2d is pretty sweet on my netbook | 09:27 |
| AlanBell | ooooooh someone fixed the button button bug | 09:30 |
| jacobw | the cern result is.. suprising | 09:32 |
| MartijnVdS | negative mass. | 09:32 |
| AlanBell | I think they measured the distance wrong | 09:34 |
| AlanBell | but I can't see where | 09:35 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: thanks for the CDs the other night, brought them to work and 2 of the lads took some | 09:36 |
| AlanBell | gah, half arsed fix to Bug #851694 | 09:37 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 851694 in unity-2d (Ubuntu) "application icons in apps lens are all called "button"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851694 | 09:37 |
| AlanBell | MartijnVdS: that is almost plausible! | 09:43 |
| AlanBell | I think they have established that the square of the mass of a neutrino can't be zero, therefore they have mass | 09:44 |
| AlanBell | could be negative though | 09:44 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Laura Czajkowski] Why the CC - http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/09/24/why-the-cc/ | 10:13 |
| AI__ | anyone free here? | 11:04 |
| MartijnVdS | !ask | 11:04 |
| lubotu3 | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) | 11:04 |
| AI__ | for a non ubuntu related question just life advice | 11:06 |
| AlanBell | IRC is traditionally the place to ask questions of people who have a life :) | 11:08 |
| popey | I won the lottery! | 11:18 |
| popey | properly | 11:18 |
| popey | 5.20GBP! | 11:18 |
| bigcalm | Nice one | 11:18 |
| * popey promises this wont change his life | 11:20 | |
| bigcalm | AlanBell: have or haven't? | 11:29 |
| AI__ | Is the concorde expected to fly for the Olympics? | 11:35 |
| AlanBell | no | 11:42 |
| windmill | rather good this oneiric, looking pretty slick already | 11:46 |
| === root is now known as Guest69526 | ||
| danfish | chicken! | 11:56 |
| danfish | !chicken | 11:57 |
| jacobw | yes? | 11:57 |
| bigcalm | Bok bok | 11:57 |
| danfish | chicken? is it you? | 11:57 |
| danfish | hope everyone is enjoying this rather fine weather | 11:59 |
| penguin42 | fine weather? Where? | 11:59 |
| bigcalm | Overcast here | 11:59 |
| StevenR | grey here | 12:00 |
| danfish | ah - my bad - SW Londinium | 12:00 |
| AlanBell | chickens \o/ | 12:00 |
| jacobw | overcast here :( | 12:01 |
| bigcalm | Banana! | 12:01 |
| jacobw | +=rama | 12:01 |
| === AlanBell changed the topic of #ubuntu-uk to: Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://ubuntu-uk.org | This channel is publicly archived http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Mailing List http://tinyurl.com/uukml | Support Guidelines http://tinyurl.com/uuksupport | Meeting 20th October 21:00 UK time #ubuntu-uk-meeting | chickens \o/ | ||
| * StevenR wonders what all this talk of chickens is | 12:02 | |
| danfish | AlanBell: with your new found appraisal of the neutrino/faster then light debate, which came first? the chicken or the egg? | 12:02 |
| danfish | StevenR: AlanBell has ported ubuntu to run in a chicken's brain ;) | 12:08 |
| bigcalm | Heh | 12:08 |
| AlanBell | danfish: the answer is still neither the chicken or the egg | 12:11 |
| danfish | the unity interface now is beak/peck enabled | 12:11 |
| AlanBell | you need to get a henhouse and run first or they will be eaten by a fox | 12:11 |
| danfish | AlanBell: true - quantum entanglement precludes either option in the chicken/egg debate, but the real answer - dinosaur | 12:12 |
| AlanBell | yup, they are dinosaurs | 12:12 |
| AlanBell | tasty little dinosaurs | 12:12 |
| bigcalm | QIXL tonight \o/ | 12:14 |
| jacobw | :D | 12:14 |
| MartijnVdS | Doctor Who tonight \o/ | 12:20 |
| bigcalm | Only 2 eps left | 12:20 |
| bigcalm | And no companions? | 12:20 |
| MartijnVdS | Apparently the guy from last year is coming back this episode | 12:20 |
| MartijnVdS | the not-funny one | 12:21 |
| bigcalm | Who? | 12:21 |
| MartijnVdS | the one from that episode with the tardis on the rood | 12:21 |
| MartijnVdS | roof | 12:21 |
| MartijnVdS | James Corden | 12:21 |
| bigcalm | Oh no | 12:22 |
| MartijnVdS | exactly. | 12:22 |
| bigcalm | Do not want | 12:22 |
| MartijnVdS | I hope it's just for one episode | 12:23 |
| bigcalm | It will be the death of the show if it isn't | 12:23 |
| MartijnVdS | I much prefer Amy ;) | 12:24 |
| bigcalm | Doesn't everybody? | 12:26 |
| bigcalm | It weirds me out somehow that sheis 24 | 12:26 |
| MartijnVdS | why? | 12:30 |
| bigcalm | Dunno, just does | 12:34 |
| gord | pfft, i said that about catherine tate, apprently everyone loves terrible people in dr who | 12:41 |
| MartijnVdS | gord: Catherine Tate WAS horrible | 12:41 |
| MartijnVdS | (at least in Dr Who, don't know her other things) | 12:41 |
| gord | dr who is the thing she is least terrible in | 12:42 |
| gord | so that should give you some idea | 12:42 |
| MartijnVdS | *shudder* | 12:42 |
| * bigcalm nods | 12:43 | |
| gord | but yeah, the co-star of "lesbian vampire killers" apprently being in dr who now, does not make me want to catch up. stopped watching it a year or two ago | 12:44 |
| MartijnVdS | gord: only in two episodes | 12:45 |
| MartijnVdS | gord: with any luck he'll be dying in this one too | 12:46 |
| bigcalm | \o | 12:46 |
| bigcalm | \o/ | 12:46 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: just watch the trailer :) | 12:46 |
| bigcalm | Na, I avoid all teasers | 12:47 |
| bigcalm | Including the 'next time' bits at the end of the show | 12:47 |
| MartijnVdS | Ooh, F1 Quali | 12:48 |
| MartijnVdS | in a few minutes | 12:48 |
| bigcalm | That might be worth watching | 12:48 |
| sammm | HazRPG: Having no internet is the worst thing to ever happen to my life :'( | 13:26 |
| MartijnVdS | sammm: that bad, really? | 13:26 |
| HazRPG | sammm: Hmm, sounds like you need another hobby then ^_^ | 13:27 |
| HazRPG | I can live quite happily without internet for weeks/months | 13:27 |
| HazRPG | however, when I do get back on... I tend to spend most of the time trying to catch up on what I missed :P | 13:27 |
| MartijnVdS | as long as I get my email | 13:27 |
| sammm | No online gaming, no porn, no Wikipedia, no news, no free TV/films/music, no talking to anybody, etc | 13:27 |
| sammm | MartijnVdS: Yes, for the reasons I've just specified | 13:27 |
| sammm | HazRPG: Wi-Fi hacking maybe? | 13:27 |
| sammm | HazRPG: Lucky you | 13:27 |
| HazRPG | MartijnVdS: Yeah I agree, e-mail is probably the thing I check the most - sadly a lot of people don't though :( | 13:28 |
| HazRPG | MartijnVdS: I know a lot of people that don't see the importance in having an e-mail address, especially since the recent boom of social networking | 13:29 |
| MartijnVdS | yeah that's weird :) | 13:29 |
| * MartijnVdS remebers having a Fidonet email address | 13:30 | |
| MartijnVdS | I have to say most of my email is notifications | 13:36 |
| MartijnVdS | "Package on its way" | 13:37 |
| MartijnVdS | "Bug has been commented on" | 13:37 |
| MartijnVdS | etc. | 13:37 |
| shauno | mine's about the same, but I'd still rather not do without it | 13:40 |
| MartijnVdS | People at work need to learn how to use it though | 13:41 |
| shauno | automated cruft, more lists than is sensible, and maybe 4 people that still use it as a form of communication | 13:41 |
| MartijnVdS | (especially writing understandable emails..) | 13:41 |
| shauno | quoting is my big gripe for work emails. quote etoo much, and I've no idea what you're talking about. quote too little, and I still have no idea | 13:43 |
| MartijnVdS | At work people just "MS-Quote" | 13:44 |
| MartijnVdS | i.e. don't remove anything, write new content above | 13:44 |
| MartijnVdS | *hate* | 13:44 |
| MartijnVdS | Also subjects like "Question" | 13:44 |
| MartijnVdS | GAH | 13:44 |
| shauno | that's pretty much the default for Notes too. Drives me nuts, because my preferred style is to reply inline | 13:45 |
| MartijnVdS | I've given up | 13:45 |
| MartijnVdS | people actually mailed me telling me they didn't understand proper quoting | 13:46 |
| AlanBell | shauno: harder to edit in a collapsed section too | 13:46 |
| AlanBell | I like to reply inline if appropriate and trim the stuff I don't want | 13:46 |
| AlanBell | or just reply without history | 13:46 |
| MartijnVdS | I want gmail's interface for "normal" IMAP servers | 13:47 |
| MartijnVdS | so I can use it for work mail :) | 13:47 |
| jacobw | I usually reply without history, they know what they mailed about :| | 13:47 |
| MartijnVdS | because in gmail works great | 13:47 |
| MartijnVdS | +it | 13:47 |
| AlanBell | back when I was teaching people how to use email I told them that reply with history is only for when you are adding a new person to the cc list and you want to give them context | 13:48 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: I get mail like that sometimes, it's even worse :) | 13:48 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: "Please fix this issue with the software" <thread of 20 emails describing/finding the bug, in reverse order> | 13:49 |
| jacobw | People leave their brains at the login screen and anything different from the default behaviour is worrying for them. | 13:49 |
| AlanBell | fundamentally, email is rubbish | 13:49 |
| jacobw | IRC ftw :D | 13:49 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: Invent somethign better :) | 13:50 |
| jacobw | MartijnVdS: I think that's how we got Wave.. | 13:50 |
| MartijnVdS | jacobw: even fewer people understood how that works | 13:50 |
| MartijnVdS | I've done collaborative Google Docs things | 13:50 |
| MartijnVdS | that works | 13:51 |
| MartijnVdS | but that's not good for (say) helpdesk queries | 13:52 |
| AlanBell | there are many many helpdesk applications | 13:55 |
| AlanBell | because everyone who has ever worked on one and can code a bit has written one | 13:56 |
| AlanBell | even those who can't code a bit | 13:56 |
| MartijnVdS | sure, but Google Docs/collaborative document editing isn't the best help desk interface :) | 13:56 |
| MartijnVdS | We use RT at work | 13:56 |
| MartijnVdS | for internal stuff | 13:56 |
| MartijnVdS | no idea what's used for customer-to-helpdesk stuff | 13:56 |
| jacobw | I suggested using a request tracker at work and was told to set up a sharepoint site :| | 13:59 |
| MartijnVdS | jacobw: ... | 13:59 |
| MartijnVdS | Where I work everyone uses it | 14:00 |
| MartijnVdS | except the people who need it most (the unix sysadmins) | 14:00 |
| jacobw | RT? | 14:00 |
| MartijnVdS | yeah | 14:00 |
| MartijnVdS | F1 \o/ | 14:05 |
| MartijnVdS | ooh! tomorrow - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b015d4qz | 15:12 |
| penguin42 | Freeview ch 11 'pick tv' seems to be showing the original 1st futurama series | 15:26 |
| penguin42 | which given this cold is about the right type of tv | 15:27 |
| AlanBell | Laney: MooDoo: other Notts peeps: how does Thursday 3rd November grab you for a Nottingham Happy Hour? | 15:34 |
| Laney | UDS | 15:34 |
| AlanBell | excellent point! | 15:35 |
| Laney | :-) | 15:35 |
| AlanBell | Thursday 10th? | 15:36 |
| Laney | yeah, could work | 15:44 |
| Laney | want to email nlug to gauge interest? | 15:44 |
| AlanBell | that would be great | 15:45 |
| gord | oops, i clicked on a thing in banshee, time to crash! | 16:55 |
| MartijnVdS | gord: you didn't apt-get upgrade while it was running did you? | 16:57 |
| MartijnVdS | gord: because that triggers 400% CPU crashiness for Laney and me | 16:57 |
| Laney | i don't think it's that reliable | 16:58 |
| gord | no, banshee is just crap | 16:58 |
| gord | and they removed the u1 store from rb so i have to use it | 16:59 |
| Laney | ho boy, I hope trolling applications never stops being fun | 16:59 |
| gord | and it crashed again | 17:00 |
| gord | okay i give up, i won't buy music, that was obviously what i did wrong | 17:04 |
| MartijnVdS | Doctortime! | 18:09 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 18:10 |
| czajkowski | gord: why do you persist in using banshee, it results in a rant on here on how broken it is | 18:10 |
| MartijnVdS | if only he filed bugs.. | 18:10 |
| zleap | hi all | 19:38 |
| jacobw | hi | 19:39 |
| zleap | how are u | 19:39 |
| jacobw | eating ravioli and reading about snort | 19:41 |
| jacobw | that's my rock and roll saturday evening :| | 19:42 |
| * AlanBell updates http://ubuntu-uk.org/happy-hour/ | 19:46 | |
| Laney | 10/10 → 10/11 ? | 19:51 |
| * AlanBell updates again | 19:52 | |
| Laney | wowzers, a peterborough one | 19:52 |
| Laney | and another nottingham? you spoil me | 19:53 |
| Laney | the crown is about 3 minutes from my house | 19:53 |
| AlanBell | well they are all places that have been proposed | 19:53 |
| AlanBell | and I jumbled the order a bit | 19:53 |
| AlanBell | not random | 19:53 |
| AlanBell | I was thinking of drawing a rude picture with the path, but I managed to restrain myself from that | 19:54 |
| Laney | the Debian swirl yeah? | 19:55 |
| AlanBell | http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/happyhour.pdf | 19:56 |
| AlanBell | that is the poster I stuck on the Fridge in Canonical | 19:57 |
| Laney | close | 19:57 |
| AlanBell | would like one over in Northern Ireland really | 19:58 |
| AlanBell | dunno if we have anyone in Belfast | 19:58 |
| czajkowski | hmmm | 20:29 |
| czajkowski | only folks I know in NI are on the -ie team | 20:29 |
| czajkowski | sladen: good to see you if only briefly the other evening | 20:29 |
| zleap | anyone up in or near cullompton, devon | 20:30 |
| ball | What version of the Linux kernel impacted power management/battery life? | 20:51 |
| ali1234 | 2.6.* | 20:52 |
| ball | Thanks, that'll explain his battery issue. | 20:52 |
| Monotoko | .... | 20:54 |
| AlanBell | ,,,, | 20:57 |
| bigcalm | ...---... | 20:58 |
| === hamitron_ is now known as hamitron | ||
| reaper4334 | anyone set up a custom plymouth boot splash? I tried following the guide linked to on the ubuntu wiki but it didn't work :( | 21:34 |
| sammm | Heyyyyy guyz | 23:08 |
| sammm | I just met my house mate | 23:09 |
| penguin42 | is that unusual? | 23:10 |
| sammm | He might even become my favourite house mate | 23:12 |
| sammm | I think I have a house mate for competitive PC gaming, a house mate for drinking and a house mate for musicing. :) | 23:15 |
| sammm | And I have 2 for smoking | 23:17 |
| sammm | But one of them smokes better than the other | 23:18 |
| sammm | Can I boost Wi-Fi signal range by taping the atenna as high up on the wall as possible? | 23:45 |
| sammm1 | Well I've blutacked my Wi-Fi adaptor as high up the wall as possible | 23:52 |
| sammm1 | I don't think it's made much difference :( | 23:52 |
| ball | Yay! BluTak! | 23:53 |
| sammm1 | LOL it fell down the first time | 23:53 |
| sammm1 | Actually, my connection seems almost better than dialup ATM :) | 23:53 |
| sammm1 | I just downloaded a photograph of a fit ginger 15 year old girl. | 23:53 |
| sammm | Damn, it fell down again | 23:59 |
| sammm | But I've just applied three times as much blu-tak and pushed it down extra hard | 23:59 |
| sammm | So I doubt it'll fall down this time :) | 23:59 |
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