sammmOMG I get so much motion sickness from staring at Lara Crofts arse. :(00:27
sammmI can't play this game without feeling queezy. :(00:28
ubuntuuk-planet[Jono Bacon] Unity Lenses and Books - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/09/24/unity-lenses-and-books/02:13
AlanBellmorning all08:11
czajkowskiAlanBell: word of warning on the cask08:12
czajkowskithe seats are heated08:12
czajkowskidear gods it gets hot in there08:12
AlanBellthe bench seats you mean?08:13
czajkowskiand they get pipping hot08:13
czajkowskiplace wasn't nearly as full as thursday night08:13
* AlanBell is cool as a cucumber08:14
czajkowskiarrived at 6:30 we had a table booked for about 8 of us08:14
czajkowskihad a lot of the passion fruit beer08:14
czajkowskiand dear gods their burgers are to die for08:14
AlanBellwhat was the occasion?08:14
czajkowskijon was meeting up with some ex mates in RH, 2 now work in canonical on kernel team, few more came from google, and then there was me08:15
czajkowskiright frenchies v kiwis08:15
popeyis there an easy way to tell if you're on unity 3d or 2d in 11.10?08:31
czajkowskiwithout logging out I'm not sure08:34
ubuntuuk-planet[Laura Czajkowski] Annoy bug reports - http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/09/24/annoy-bug-reports/09:13
ubuntuuk-planet[Laura Czajkowski] Why I love to meet more Ubuntu People - http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/09/24/why-i-love-to-meet-more-ubuntu-people/09:13
AlanBellpopey: if the launcher is black it is 2d, if it is dark aubergine it is 3d09:18
popeyis there a way to programmatically tell though?09:20
popeylike a particular process running?09:20
AlanBellif onboard can type in the dash, it is 2d09:21
AlanBellif orca says every application is called "button" then it is 2d09:21
AlanBellif orca says nothing then it is 3d09:21
brobostigongood morning everyone.09:24
AlanBellthe cern result looks pretty solid to me, just been going over some of the figures :)09:26
swat_unity 2d is pretty sweet on my netbook09:27
AlanBellooooooh someone fixed the button button bug09:30
jacobwthe cern result is.. suprising09:32
MartijnVdSnegative mass.09:32
AlanBellI think they measured the distance wrong09:34
AlanBellbut I can't see where09:35
czajkowskiAlanBell: thanks for the CDs the other night, brought them to work and 2 of the lads took some09:36
AlanBellgah, half arsed fix to Bug #85169409:37
lubotu3Launchpad bug 851694 in unity-2d (Ubuntu) "application icons in apps lens are all called "button"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85169409:37
AlanBellMartijnVdS: that is almost plausible!09:43
AlanBellI think they have established that the square of the mass of a neutrino can't be zero, therefore they have mass09:44
AlanBellcould be negative though09:44
ubuntuuk-planet[Laura Czajkowski] Why the CC - http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/09/24/why-the-cc/10:13
AI__anyone free here?11:04
lubotu3Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)11:04
AI__for a non ubuntu related question just life advice11:06
AlanBellIRC is traditionally the place to ask questions of people who have a life :)11:08
popeyI won the lottery!11:18
bigcalmNice one11:18
* popey promises this wont change his life11:20
bigcalmAlanBell: have or haven't?11:29
AI__Is the concorde expected to fly for the Olympics?11:35
windmillrather good this oneiric, looking pretty slick already11:46
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bigcalmBok bok11:57
danfishchicken? is it you?11:57
danfishhope everyone is enjoying this rather fine weather11:59
penguin42fine weather? Where?11:59
bigcalmOvercast here11:59
StevenRgrey here12:00
danfishah - my bad - SW Londinium12:00
AlanBellchickens \o/12:00
jacobwovercast here :(12:01
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* StevenR wonders what all this talk of chickens is12:02
danfishAlanBell: with your new found appraisal of the neutrino/faster then light debate, which came first? the chicken or the egg?12:02
danfishStevenR: AlanBell has ported ubuntu to run in a chicken's brain ;)12:08
AlanBelldanfish: the answer is still neither the chicken or the egg12:11
danfishthe unity interface now is beak/peck enabled12:11
AlanBellyou need to get a henhouse and run first or they will be eaten by a fox12:11
danfishAlanBell: true - quantum entanglement precludes either option in the chicken/egg debate, but the real answer - dinosaur12:12
AlanBellyup, they are dinosaurs12:12
AlanBelltasty little dinosaurs12:12
bigcalmQIXL tonight \o/12:14
MartijnVdSDoctor Who tonight \o/12:20
bigcalmOnly 2 eps left12:20
bigcalmAnd no companions?12:20
MartijnVdSApparently the guy from last year is coming back this episode12:20
MartijnVdSthe not-funny one12:21
MartijnVdSthe one from that episode with the tardis on the rood12:21
MartijnVdSJames Corden12:21
bigcalmOh no12:22
bigcalmDo not want12:22
MartijnVdSI hope it's just for one episode12:23
bigcalmIt will be the death of the show if it isn't12:23
MartijnVdSI much prefer Amy ;)12:24
bigcalmDoesn't everybody?12:26
bigcalmIt weirds me out somehow that sheis 2412:26
bigcalmDunno, just does12:34
gordpfft, i said that about catherine tate, apprently everyone loves terrible people in dr who12:41
MartijnVdSgord: Catherine Tate WAS horrible12:41
MartijnVdS(at least in Dr Who, don't know her other things)12:41
gorddr who is the thing she is least terrible in12:42
gordso that should give you some idea12:42
* bigcalm nods12:43
gordbut yeah, the co-star of "lesbian  vampire killers" apprently being in dr who now, does not make me want to catch up. stopped watching it a year or two ago12:44
MartijnVdSgord: only in two episodes12:45
MartijnVdSgord: with any luck he'll be dying in this one too12:46
MartijnVdSbigcalm: just watch the trailer :)12:46
bigcalmNa, I avoid all teasers12:47
bigcalmIncluding the 'next time' bits at the end of the show12:47
MartijnVdSOoh, F1 Quali12:48
MartijnVdSin a few minutes12:48
bigcalmThat might be worth watching12:48
sammmHazRPG: Having no internet is the worst thing to ever happen to my life :'(13:26
MartijnVdSsammm: that bad, really?13:26
HazRPGsammm: Hmm, sounds like you need another hobby then ^_^13:27
HazRPGI can live quite happily without internet for weeks/months13:27
HazRPGhowever, when I do get back on... I tend to spend most of the time trying to catch up on what I missed :P13:27
MartijnVdSas long as I get my email13:27
sammmNo online gaming, no porn, no Wikipedia, no news, no free TV/films/music, no talking to anybody, etc13:27
sammmMartijnVdS: Yes, for the reasons I've just specified13:27
sammmHazRPG: Wi-Fi hacking maybe?13:27
sammmHazRPG: Lucky you13:27
HazRPGMartijnVdS: Yeah I agree, e-mail is probably the thing I check the most - sadly a lot of people don't though :(13:28
HazRPGMartijnVdS: I know a lot of people that don't see the importance in having an e-mail address, especially since the recent boom of social networking13:29
MartijnVdSyeah that's weird :)13:29
* MartijnVdS remebers having a Fidonet email address13:30
MartijnVdSI have to say most of my email is notifications13:36
MartijnVdS"Package on its way"13:37
MartijnVdS"Bug has been commented on"13:37
shaunomine's about the same, but I'd still rather not do without it13:40
MartijnVdSPeople at work need to learn how to use it though13:41
shaunoautomated cruft, more lists than is sensible, and maybe 4 people that still use it as a form of communication13:41
MartijnVdS(especially writing understandable emails..)13:41
shaunoquoting is my big gripe for work emails.  quote etoo much, and I've no idea what you're talking about.  quote too little, and I still have no idea13:43
MartijnVdSAt work people just "MS-Quote"13:44
MartijnVdSi.e. don't remove anything, write new content above13:44
MartijnVdSAlso subjects like "Question"13:44
shaunothat's pretty much the default for Notes too. Drives me nuts, because my preferred style is to reply inline13:45
MartijnVdSI've given up13:45
MartijnVdSpeople actually mailed me telling me they didn't understand proper quoting13:46
AlanBellshauno: harder to edit in a collapsed section too13:46
AlanBellI like to reply inline if appropriate and trim the stuff I don't want13:46
AlanBellor just reply without history13:46
MartijnVdSI want gmail's interface for "normal" IMAP servers13:47
MartijnVdSso I can use it for work mail :)13:47
jacobwI usually reply without history, they know what they mailed about :|13:47
MartijnVdSbecause in gmail works great13:47
AlanBellback when I was teaching people how to use email I told them that reply with history is only for when you are adding a new person to the cc list and you want to give them context13:48
MartijnVdSAlanBell: I get mail like that sometimes, it's even worse :)13:48
MartijnVdSAlanBell: "Please fix this issue with the software" <thread of 20 emails describing/finding the bug, in reverse order>13:49
jacobwPeople leave their brains at the login screen and anything different from the default behaviour is worrying for them.13:49
AlanBellfundamentally, email is rubbish13:49
jacobwIRC ftw :D13:49
MartijnVdSAlanBell: Invent somethign better :)13:50
jacobwMartijnVdS: I think that's how we got Wave..13:50
MartijnVdSjacobw: even fewer people understood how that works13:50
MartijnVdSI've done collaborative Google Docs things13:50
MartijnVdSthat works13:51
MartijnVdSbut that's not good for (say) helpdesk queries13:52
AlanBellthere are many many helpdesk applications13:55
AlanBellbecause everyone who has ever worked on one and can code a bit has written one13:56
AlanBelleven those who can't code a bit13:56
MartijnVdSsure, but Google Docs/collaborative document editing isn't the best help desk interface :)13:56
MartijnVdSWe use RT at work13:56
MartijnVdSfor internal stuff13:56
MartijnVdSno idea what's used for customer-to-helpdesk stuff13:56
jacobwI suggested using a request tracker at work and was told to set up a sharepoint site :|13:59
MartijnVdSjacobw: ...13:59
MartijnVdSWhere I work everyone uses it14:00
MartijnVdSexcept the people who need it most (the unix sysadmins)14:00
MartijnVdSF1 \o/14:05
MartijnVdSooh! tomorrow - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b015d4qz15:12
penguin42Freeview ch 11 'pick tv' seems to be showing the original 1st futurama series15:26
penguin42which given this cold is about the right type of tv15:27
AlanBellLaney: MooDoo: other Notts peeps: how does Thursday 3rd November grab you for a Nottingham Happy Hour?15:34
AlanBellexcellent point!15:35
AlanBellThursday 10th?15:36
Laneyyeah, could work15:44
Laneywant to email nlug to gauge interest?15:44
AlanBellthat would be great15:45
gordoops, i clicked on a thing in banshee, time to crash!16:55
MartijnVdSgord: you didn't apt-get upgrade while it was running did you?16:57
MartijnVdSgord: because that triggers 400% CPU crashiness for Laney and me16:57
Laneyi don't think it's that reliable16:58
gordno, banshee is just crap16:58
gordand they removed the u1 store from rb so i have to use it16:59
Laneyho boy, I hope trolling applications never stops being fun16:59
gordand it crashed again17:00
gordokay i give up, i won't buy music, that was obviously what i did wrong17:04
czajkowskigord: why do you persist in using banshee, it results in a rant on here on how broken it is18:10
MartijnVdSif only he filed bugs..18:10
zleaphi all19:38
zleaphow are u19:39
jacobweating ravioli and reading about snort19:41
jacobwthat's my rock and roll saturday evening :|19:42
* AlanBell updates http://ubuntu-uk.org/happy-hour/19:46
Laney10/10 → 10/11 ?19:51
* AlanBell updates again19:52
Laneywowzers, a peterborough one19:52
Laneyand another nottingham? you spoil me19:53
Laneythe crown is about 3 minutes from my house19:53
AlanBellwell they are all places that have been proposed19:53
AlanBelland I jumbled the order a bit19:53
AlanBellnot random19:53
AlanBellI was thinking of drawing a rude picture with the path, but I managed to restrain myself from that19:54
Laneythe Debian swirl yeah?19:55
AlanBellthat is the poster I stuck on the Fridge in Canonical19:57
AlanBellwould like one over in Northern Ireland really19:58
AlanBelldunno if we have anyone in Belfast19:58
czajkowskionly folks I know in NI are on the -ie team20:29
czajkowskisladen: good to see you if only briefly the other evening20:29
zleapanyone up in or near cullompton, devon20:30
ballWhat version of the Linux kernel impacted power management/battery life?20:51
ballThanks, that'll explain his battery issue.20:52
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reaper4334anyone set up a custom plymouth boot splash? I tried following the guide linked to on the ubuntu wiki but it didn't work :(21:34
sammmHeyyyyy guyz23:08
sammmI just met my house mate23:09
penguin42is that unusual?23:10
sammmHe might even become my favourite house mate23:12
sammmI think I have a house mate for competitive PC gaming, a house mate for drinking and a house mate for musicing. :)23:15
sammmAnd I have 2 for smoking23:17
sammmBut one of them smokes better than the other23:18
sammmCan I boost Wi-Fi signal range by taping the atenna as high up on the wall as possible?23:45
sammm1Well I've blutacked my Wi-Fi adaptor as high up the wall as possible23:52
sammm1I don't think it's made much difference :(23:52
ballYay!  BluTak!23:53
sammm1LOL it fell down the first time23:53
sammm1Actually, my connection seems almost better than dialup ATM :)23:53
sammm1I just downloaded a photograph of a fit ginger 15 year old girl.23:53
sammmDamn, it fell down again23:59
sammmBut I've just applied three times as much blu-tak and pushed it down extra hard23:59
sammmSo I doubt it'll fall down this time :)23:59

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