[00:42] <gua> which is better http://tinyurl.com/classes-ca or http://tinyurl.com/classesca  ?
[00:42] <gua> in terms of speaking it out loud
[03:32] <philipballew> DarkwingDuck, So whats all this with ubuntu Leadership?
[04:32] <philipballew> Can someone help me mount a external harddrive that wont mount
[04:34] <gua> philipballew: sure
[04:34] <gua> philipballew: what have you tried?
[04:34] <gua> and what fs is it?
[04:34] <philipballew> gua, ok, well Its my brothers and its from his mac
[04:34] <gua> and os/distro
[04:34] <philipballew> i tried nothing so far
[04:34] <philipballew> osx snow leapord
[04:35] <philipballew> gua,
[04:37] <gua> philipballew: so you plug it in and it doesn't pop up?
[04:37] <gua> and you're trying to read it on a mac with snow leopard?
[04:37] <philipballew> no. im trying to read in on ubuntu 11.04 gua
[04:38] <philipballew> is shows something was pluged in in dmesg
[04:38] <philipballew> gua,
[04:39] <gua> philipballew: hmm
[04:39] <gua> philipballew: that's happened to me before a few times. try to mount it manually
[04:39] <philipballew> how do i do that?
[04:39] <gua> sudo mount /dev/sdx1 /mnt
[04:39] <gua> replace the x in sdx with what you see in dmesg
[04:40] <philipballew> let me show you the output of dmesg
[04:40] <gua> alright
[04:41] <gua> note, you can only read hfs+, not write, unless you disable journaling (which is usually on by default). but it also could be fat32 or ntfs
[04:41] <gua> dmesg | head -n 200 | pastebinit
[04:42] <philipballew> http://paste.ubuntu.com/695985/
[04:42] <gua> er tail rather. but anyway
[04:43] <gua> philipballew: what line do you see it saying something got plugged in?
[04:44] <philipballew> im not sure, Nut i assume its in there somewhere
[04:45] <philipballew> i think i saw it earlier
[04:45] <gua> philipballew: do you have pastebinit?
[04:45] <gua> if you don't, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[04:45] <philipballew> whats that?
[04:45] <gua> it easily pastes stuff from the terminal
[04:45] <philipballew> its installing
[04:47] <gua> then do      tail -n 100 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit
[04:47] <gua> philipballew: it's a usb drive?
[04:47] <philipballew> yeah. external hd
[04:48] <philipballew> http://paste.ubuntu.com/695989/
[04:48] <gua> well usb as opposed to firewire
[04:49] <philipballew> ah, true
[04:49] <gua> philipballew: when you plug it in, do any lights on the drive come on?
[04:49] <gua> since i'm not seeing anything in those that would indicate a drive being plugged in
[04:50] <philipballew> hum. ill just not worry about it i guess
[04:50] <philipballew> it seems to not be working right now i guess
[04:50] <gua> oh
[04:50] <gua> ok then
[04:50] <gua> good to hear
[04:50] <gua> glad to help ;P
[04:50] <philipballew> Thanks :)
[04:51] <philipballew> its 10 on a friday night, ill see what fun things i can go do
[05:12] <gua> so i went to dvlug but got there an hour late
[05:12] <gua> tonight
[21:48] <nhaines> Yay in 12 minutes I'm talking about how to switch from another OS to Ubuntu in #ubuntu-classroom.
[21:54] <bkerensa> :D
[22:25] <philipballew>  is http://wireless.kernel.org/ down for anyone else?
[22:26] <gua> philipballew: not loading here. kernel.org, linux.com and the linux foundation site have all been down for a while now after a big attack
[22:26] <gua> sadly that includes a lot of stuff mirrored on kernel.org
[22:27] <philipballew> but how can I patch my wifi card to inject packets into my router ...
[22:27] <gua> oops
[22:27] <philipballew> :(
[22:27] <gua> philipballew: find another mirror :)
[22:28] <gua> people around /r/linux on reddit were discussing places to find kernel.org stuff. iirc one person mentioned that arch linux maintains a kernel.org mirror
[22:29] <philipballew> ah, im jusy trying to set this up  is http://wireless.kernel.org/ down for anyone else?
[22:29] <philipballew> no
[22:29] <philipballew> this up
[22:29] <philipballew> http://www.janoweb.net/tutorials/installazione-drivers-rtl8187-r8187-rt2800usb-su-ubuntu-lucid-maverick.html#axzz1YuSV3Gqe\
[22:29] <philipballew> but i guess i could look for a mirrior
[22:30] <philipballew> arch linux is nice
[22:31] <gua> i
[22:31] <gua> i'm looking for some good mirrors now and it's not the easiest thing to find
[22:31] <gua> i'd feel better about arch if there were more people working on it. it takes them a long time to implement kinda basic stuff.
[22:32] <philipballew> that seems like how they like it somewhat
[22:33] <gua> philipballew: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/klbxn/with_kernelorg_down_where_can_i_find_the_last_few/
[22:34] <gua> well package signing was/is the big thing. to play with in a vm sure, but i'm going to give it quite a few years before looking at it as a desktop or server distro
[22:34] <philipballew> im always told its the true choice of geeks
[22:35] <gua> dunno about that
[22:36] <philipballew> i dont beleive them myself
[22:36] <philipballew> its debian based somewhat isnt it?
[22:43] <gua> i don't think so. wikipedia has something on its origins
[22:43] <gua> iirc it's from scratch but inspired a lot by some other distro
[22:50] <rww> Arch has nothing to do with Debian.
[22:50] <rww> They're also claiming that package signing is coming sometime soon. We'll see.
[22:50] <rww> Well, I won't. I'm fine with Debian <3
[22:58]  * bkerensa gets to go see master.kernel.org soon