| bkerensa | valorie: Did you hear about Windows 8 and the UEFI boot thing? | 07:01 |
|---|---|---|
| valorie | oh god yes | 07:01 |
| bkerensa | could cause issues for Linux | 07:02 |
| valorie | it WILL cause issues | 07:02 |
| bkerensa | if OEM's are forced to make UEFI hardware then Linux is kinda hit | 07:02 |
| valorie | not only for us | 07:02 |
| valorie | but for Windows users too | 07:02 |
| bkerensa | why? | 07:02 |
| valorie | they won't be able to replace a video card! | 07:02 |
| bkerensa | I thought it will only effect Linux | 07:02 |
| valorie | etc. | 07:02 |
| valorie | no | 07:02 |
| bkerensa | oh | 07:02 |
| bkerensa | yeah but its a win for OEM's and Microsoft | 07:03 |
| valorie | MS will be fine | 07:03 |
| bkerensa | OEM's get more hardware sales | 07:03 |
| valorie | only untill people need to replace some hardware | 07:03 |
| bkerensa | and MS gets to slowdown linux growth by making hardware options limited | 07:03 |
| valorie | then they are um..... effed | 07:03 |
| bkerensa | yeah | 07:03 |
| valorie | OEMs will be hurt by the backlash too | 07:04 |
| bkerensa | imho when I get wind of OEM's implementing this I will buy the newest non UEFI laptop I can and hope it lasts a long time | 07:04 |
| bkerensa | yeah | 07:04 |
| valorie | can you imagine buying a box where you could NOT get root? | 07:04 |
| valorie | ever? | 07:04 |
| bkerensa | idk they will still have to do something because even the server market would be effected | 07:04 |
| bkerensa | and I dont see Google moving to Windows :P | 07:04 |
| bkerensa | or any thousand other companies | 07:04 |
| valorie | dunno what's going to happen | 07:05 |
| valorie | but it looks like I won't be paying the windows tax again | 07:05 |
| bkerensa | lol :P | 07:05 |
| bkerensa | anyways looks like I get to design some more shirts for Ocelot release | 07:05 |
| bkerensa | Eucalyptus has agreed to sponsor a box of shirts | 07:06 |
| bkerensa | anyways valorie puppetconf was intense | 07:06 |
| bkerensa | people were major trolling Canonical | 07:06 |
| bkerensa | and even one breakout session Canonical held got intense for a bit some guy asked some serious questions and Canonical's people kinda struggled | 07:07 |
| valorie | well, Mark has gone out on a few major limbs | 07:08 |
| valorie | I sort of don't pay attention to a lot of it because I use Kubuntu | 07:08 |
| valorie | don't deal with Unity and/or Gnome3 | 07:08 |
| valorie | except on the community level | 07:08 |
| bkerensa | yeah :) | 07:09 |
| valorie | bottom line: it's his money | 07:12 |
| valorie | we either go along or we don't | 07:12 |
| valorie | so far, so good for me | 07:12 |
| bkerensa | yeah | 07:12 |
| valorie | but I'm active in KDE as well as Kubuntu and my Loco | 07:12 |
| bkerensa | I think though when Community Council members are blogging negatively about the state of things and such that its not so good | 07:13 |
| bkerensa | :P | 07:13 |
| valorie | if Kubuntu stops being a fun community and Kub. stops being the best KDE distro | 07:13 |
| valorie | I'll find a better place to be | 07:13 |
| bkerensa | there is some definate weird things... A Canonical employee in London who has contributed for 5 years was denied membership | 07:13 |
| bkerensa | =/ | 07:13 |
| valorie | Mark's not in my corner, and i'm not in his | 07:14 |
| bkerensa | :D | 07:14 |
| bkerensa | Tux is in my corner | 07:14 |
| bkerensa | :P | 07:14 |
| valorie | right | 07:14 |
| valorie | I believe in freedom | 07:14 |
| bkerensa | yep | 07:14 |
| valorie | and responsibility -- so I'm giving back | 07:14 |
| bkerensa | Right now the Ubuntu community is as close to that as it gets for me | 07:15 |
| bkerensa | :D | 07:15 |
| bkerensa | I just think certain things could be improved but honestly do not feel there is much of a way for members or contributors to have a stake in the decision process | 07:15 |
| valorie | well, come to UDS | 07:16 |
| valorie | get an a board | 07:16 |
| valorie | yes, we do have some influence | 07:16 |
| valorie | but when Mark decides something, and fights it out with people, and makes the final decision | 07:16 |
| valorie | that's is | 07:16 |
| valorie | it's his money | 07:16 |
| bkerensa | Yeah but its generally financially unfeasible for a contributor to pay to go to UDS just to have a say.... Even the Canonical employees at PuppetConf said they agree | 07:17 |
| bkerensa | yeah true | 07:17 |
| bkerensa | :P | 07:17 |
| valorie | right, but I've been sponsored before | 07:17 |
| bkerensa | well I need sleep I have been doing PuppetConf all week from 5am to 11pm :P | 07:17 |
| valorie | sleep well | 07:18 |
| bkerensa | Yeah :) I hope in the next year or so I will apply for sponsorship to UDS | 07:18 |
| bkerensa | gnight | 07:18 |
| valorie | I sort of wish I had this time | 07:18 |
| valorie | but I didn't | 07:18 |
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