[00:01] vbox or hardware? [00:01] I never had that in all the tests I did [00:08] Hardware [00:09] Even though it may be too late, I added it to the qa tracker :/ [00:10] Okay [00:10] That works [00:10] You can see full info on hardware there (Listed it close to yours) [00:10] hm, i used the default virtualbox settings, and upgraded now (distribution update it told me) is it normal for it to take several hours? using default settings [00:11] Normally I give it some cores, and about 4GB of RAM [00:11] you do update-manager -d or apt-get dist-upgrade ? [00:11] used the normal update manager [00:11] from like 3 days old oneiric image [00:12] the GUI version [00:12] update manager here depending on the machine can take between 6 and 18 hours [00:12] oh [00:12] wow O_o i never knew it took at much time [00:12] Never taken close to that long for me [00:13] and I do it every milestone on both 32bit and 64bit [00:14] 90 updates and 170+M to get and it took less than 20min [00:14] Its taken 2 hours now for me [00:14] and its at half for me [00:14] yup [00:14] it is a bit slow [00:15] Im one of those people that cannot really multitask well, when I got an install going, I want to almost sit and watch :P [00:15] I just start the upgrades, and go to bed [00:16] Takes too long for me to do that, I just end up forgetting about it [00:16] :) [00:17] * Unit193 has watched someone walk over, move the mouse, then I remember I have VBox running -_- [00:19] Takes too long sitting in front of it, here. [00:19] oh there we go: "an error occured please run the package manager.." [00:19] Especially when I do it every month or so [00:19] oh-oh [00:20] open a terminal and run 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' as separate commands [00:20] The mirror might have got out of sync [00:21] * madnick can tell that its late, he turned of the computer instead of the vm [00:21] heh, well, that makes it bad, doesn't it? [00:21] :P [00:22] It does indeed [00:25] acctually since i already spent this much time on it, i might as well get the newest image instead directly, which may be even faster then fixing this problem [00:26] I would say probably is [11:06] Xubuntu 11.10 is going to be the best ever! I've been running it for some time now, and it's just great. Heck, even Linus Torvalds has turned to Xfce... :-) [11:06] You can count on me, to push it hard in the Dutch Ubuntu community. Spread the word! :-) [11:07] Something else: I've discovered a strange error in garcon (newest version, which I got in the updates of today). When logged in using *Xfce* session, all is well: the Dutch translation is complete. [11:07] But when logged in using *Xubuntu* session, one string in garcon isn't translated! Namely the word "Accessories". See the relevant screenshots on my website: http://sites.google.com/site/computertip/schermafdruk [11:07] mr_pouit: can this be repaired? [11:08] hey [11:09] Pjotr: do you have gnome-menus installed? [11:09] the default xubuntu menu file uses some categories from gnome-menus. [11:10] No, it's a vanilla Xubuntu 11.10.... [11:14] grmpf, it was installed for beta1, so somethign changed [11:14] I'll add it back [11:14] Thanks! :-) [11:16] Pjotr: try to install it, and you should have a translation then [11:16] OK. I suppose I have to reload X, so I'll quit now and be back in a few minutes [11:19] mr_pouit: Problem is fixed! I installed gnome-menus and then rebooted. All is fine now with garcon. :-) [11:22] Something else, not translation-related: somewhere during the last couple of updates, the lower panel has lost it's transparancy. I can't get it back... [14:35] Good morning [14:46] morning :) [14:52] User Days today in #ubuntu-classroom [14:52] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/natty [14:58] You will happy to hear that Ubuntu doesn't tell me "remove disk" either anymore. [15:25] charlie-tca: in plymouth? [15:26] yeah [15:26] but thats not true for xubuntu right? :] [15:26] sure it is [15:26] oh [15:26] I don't see the "remove the disk and hit enter" after installing from desktop cd's [15:26] Well, the messaging is there :/ [15:27] It isn't making it to the screen [15:27] but is plymouth shown? [15:27] when it happens [15:27] plymouth gives me the throbber only [15:27] oh [15:28] When plymouth shows fully, so does the remove message [15:28] Yeah, i think we previous had this problem too [15:28] Yeah [15:28] seems to happen sometimes, a solution would be to redraw the screen [15:28] at an interval [15:28] It might be something ubiquity is doing that is messing up the screens again [15:30] :( [15:32] since it is happening in both Ubuntu and Xubuntu, it is something common to both on desktop cd installs [15:35] charlie-tca: what did Ubuntu do with plymouth appearance wise? (out of curiosity) [15:36] nothing that I can see [15:36] oh [15:36] dark background, flashing dots under Ubuntu [15:36] plenty drab [15:37] so many crashes when I logged in, it took about two minutes before I could even clear all the boxes [15:39] hehe, thats pretty not good .P [15:40] micahg wanted me to look at some bluetooth stuff [15:40] but I have not heard from him [15:40] I will be here for most of the day, but I might be afk in a bit, but just highlight me and i will see it [15:42] yes, he wanted blueman tested, I think, from a ppa [15:44] great... did a screen-reader install, 199 updates, can't get a Ubuntu desktop now [15:44] errors found while checking the disk drive for / [15:45] even better... drive for /tmp is missing [15:45] should be / drive [15:45] this is bad [16:13] reinstalling Ubuntu [20:38] good evenign people [20:39] Good evening, GridCube [20:40] :) how are you today mister charlie-tca ? [20:40] are there any test to be done today? [20:40] Doing fine, sir. [20:40] images still the same as beta2, so no point running tests yet [20:41] ok [20:41] :) [20:41] I've been working on my interface at work :P [20:41] Good, I think [20:42] Don't be getting in trouble. [20:42] :D yes i think its good too [20:42] nah, its a quiet place, a library whit not so many users :P [20:42] Okay [20:42] so i have lots of free time, except when im not XD [20:43] s/im not/I don't [20:45] I know that way of doing things [22:51] Meeting tomorrow, 25 September, 22:00 UTC