=== Evixion` is now known as Evixion === Freejack is now known as Guest23925 [08:38] hi [08:39] hi [08:39] ;) [08:41] hi [08:41] trying cmake now [08:41] i am here on lubuntu 11.10 and i cant find an option or menu to choose desktop background wallpaper.....is this a bug? [08:43] right click on the desktop [08:43] l33o: and you'll find it. [08:44] i did that, its gone i think [08:45] when i right click there is Obconfig and Reconfigure...but these wont offer me any background changes [08:46] sounds like pcman isn't running [08:46] i changed background many times, but i guess now this isnt working because i cant find it anymore [08:46] just run pcman manually in shell? [08:47] l33o: try pcmanfm --profile lubuntu --desktop & [08:47] k...sec [08:48] i get this respone: [1] 2127 [08:55] l33o: then right click on desktop [08:55] k [08:55] what next then? [08:56] Obconfigure or reconfigure? [08:57] l33o: oops [08:57] l33o: then I guess the file manager crashes [08:57] l33o: try pcmanfm --desktop-pref then [08:57] l33o: if nothing works, I guess the file manager crashed. [08:58] sec [08:58] thaaaank youuuuu veryyyy much :))))) [08:58] success!!!! [08:59] this is the menu, that is lost here somehow :) [09:00] l33o: actually there is a shortcut in applications menu/preferences [09:00] i cant find it anymore ...its gone [09:00] i found that many times before [09:00] l33o: and I guess you have enabled the "use desktop menu of window manager" option. [09:01] l33o: so pcmanfm always use the openbox desktop menu rather than its own. [09:02] aaaaa [09:02] where can i find this use desktop menu option ? [09:03] l33o: the pcmanfm --desktop-pref dialog. [09:03] aaa :) [09:04] yes, you are right [09:04] this is enabled, i did that some days ago [09:04] solved! [09:04] :) [09:05] thank you pcman [09:05] l33o: np [09:05] l33o: is the file manager buggy? [09:05] l33o: does it crash often? [09:05] no [09:05] mabye one time it crashed [09:06] but only for one sec...then the desktop rebuild and i canwork....no freeze or so [09:06] but i decided to use compiz with lubuntu so i can reload window manager very easyily [09:06] in case of some crashes or dissapearing of the window decorations ( happend one time) [09:06] l33o: ok [09:07] * pcman is only worried about the buggy file manager he wrote. [09:07] works very stable here ( old intel graphics laptop chipset) [09:07] works perfect [09:07] only for remocing usb stick safely i have to use the disc util [09:07] l33o: thanks [09:07] removing [09:07] thakn you [09:07] thank you [09:08] actually it's buggy. [09:08] * pcman doesn't have time to fix them yet. [09:08] no problem...i am using the disc utility and i can remove very safely [09:09] the file manager is working really stable here [09:09] using it alot [09:09] pcman: don't be too worried, it works damn well. [09:10] there was a problem but its gone: sometimes when deleting something from the desktop everything was selected and deleted from the desktop [09:10] :) [09:10] but this bug is gone [09:27] sorry had to do a halt -p [09:27] menu was gone hehehe [12:05] Hi lubuntu broke my system. I would appricate help getting it back.. [12:05] I did a fresh Natty install on this hardware http://pastebin.ca/2082686 [12:05] I then installed lubuntu-desktop and dependencies just to give it a try. [12:05] Now I cannot log into gnome, it gives an error something like: "too many xserver?/xsesson? arguments (2)" after the gdm login screen. [12:06] I tried apt-get --purge remove lubuntu-desktop, but the xserver message persists, and I end up completely locked out of the machine, and have to re-install lubuntu-desktop from the command line in order to get a GUI back. [12:06] Anyone have any ideas [12:07] sam_: i know what's wrnog, but since i have never used ubuntu or gdm i donno how to fix it heh :p [12:07] sam_: if it's anything like a more 'vanilla' system, the solution lies in your ~/.xinitrc [12:08] sam_: basically there's an artifact in your gdm config telling it to start into your old DE AND LXDE [12:09] kaja, OK thanks [12:09] that is someting to go on [12:09] can i edit ~/.xinitrc or is it a system only file? [12:10] you may, but i suspect that isn't the solution because gdm does silly things [12:10] but yeah read through it and have a look [12:11] can i just use an alternitive to gdm? i seem to remember there is one? [12:11] or would apt-get --purge gdm + reinstall be worth a try? [12:15] might just try xdm [12:19] meh, i dunno. i don't even know what the point of gdm is tbh [12:20] gdm for gnome [12:20] lxdm for lubuntu, etc etc [13:23] Hello@all, i think it should beonlyalittle Question, how to change the login backgroundimmage? [13:33] Hello [13:34] does anyone know how to change keyring password on lubuntu? [13:36] does anyone know how to change keyring password on lubuntu? === Freejack is now known as Guest45874 === Pupuser is now known as Guest20132 === Guest20132 is now known as silverarrow [14:26] is there a way to fix grub in lubuntu? [14:27] silverarrow: of course [14:27] you'll need a live cd/usb [14:29] I was booted in live cd just a few minutes ago [14:29] I could not find any grub related apps [14:29] it has to be done via command line [14:29] hang on [14:30] silverarrow: follow the "chroot" section. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [14:32] silverarrow: actually the part right above that, looks a lot easier [14:32] if you want to do that under "copy partition files" [14:32] thanks [14:33] but either of those will work [14:33] I get to "grub line bash editing is supported ... press tab for commands [14:33] yeah... you need to boot a live cd/usbto run those commands [14:34] silverarrow: there's also a "purge and reinstall" section on that doc.. it looks pretty easy as welll (actually i think thats what i'd do) [14:43] I am in deep .... [14:44] whats wrong? [14:45] restoring grub is not that difficult. [14:45] I shall just have to go for it, ....down for reboot [14:45] well whats the.. [14:46] hm, guess he didn't want to stick around for clarification [14:47] !grub2 | KM0201 [14:47] KM0201: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [14:47] KM0201, next time use that ;) [14:47] bioterror: i didn't know ubottu was alive here, but thats the link i gave him anyway [14:58] KM0201, but if you dont give him exact commands, he will say "are you messing with me?" [14:58] i know how to use ubottu... [14:59] Is there a bug open for a menu error when using lxpanel located at the top of the screen at all? [14:59] KM0201, I mean mr. arrow ;) [14:59] oh really? [15:00] i've not helped him all that much, so don't know much about him, but he seems to have a lot of problems [15:01] pip__, you've checked launchpad? [15:02] I am doing so now bioterror [15:26] it's already been reported & confirmed :) [15:31] i guess he just wanted to come here and tell us :) [15:31] i wonder if silver ever got his problem fixed [15:59] how can I apply my keyboard layout system-wide? [16:02] and second question, can I enable window snapping like I do in unity? [16:10] mh: not to my knowledge on the window snapping. [16:10] KM0201, thanks [16:12] what about the keyboard layout? it resets each time I reboot [16:15] by the way, I have a question about the BIOS. Do you know where I can try to ask in the IRC? [16:17] no idea on the BIOS> [16:17] as for keyboard layout... [16:18] open a terminal and type this.. "gksudo lxkeymap" and when the utility opens, make your changes and apply them. [16:18] see if that changes it permanently [16:20] okay KM0201, I will reboot [16:20] ij [16:20] ok [16:20] hi [16:20] but I am not very optimistic... I will let you know [16:20] ok.. [16:20] ubuntu_: welcome [16:21] I was given a link to a grub repair, but i cannot seem to find it now that I am in live cd [16:22] !grub2 [16:22] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [16:22] ubuntu_: probably the second link [16:22] actually, its probably the first [16:22] thanks [16:23] the second link has some instructions for it also though [16:23] : ) [16:24] nope. [16:24] hmm [16:24] must be a configuration file somewhere [16:24] I cannot set it to dvorak by default... [16:26] if I understand it correctly, there is a boot repair in the live lubuntu CD, and which also seem to be recommened ? [16:26] yes, you need to use a live cd to repair grub. [16:27] I am in live cd now [16:27] it says install boot repair, but not much more [16:28] from terminal? package manager? [16:28] ubuntu_: either one... package manager will probably be easier [16:29] mh: sudo nano /etc/default/keyboard [16:29] the key there, is "XKBLAYOUT=us" [16:29] the problem is, i don't know what you replace "us" with, to make it dvorak [16:30] I cannot find it it package manager [16:30] ubuntu_: hang on a sec [16:31] you're connected to the internet, right? [16:31] oh thankssss [16:31] thanks KM0201 [16:31] mh: no problem [16:31] after you put whatever you want there (in place of US)... hit Ctrl + X to save [16:31] then reboot, and see if it works [16:31] you usually set keyboard under: menu-preferances-keyboard & mouse [16:32] thanks, I will use emacs [16:32] ubuntu_: it seems to be a known bug, that it doesn't save w/ the GUI tool (at least googling turned up lots of hits) [16:33] ubuntu_: do you only have one hard drive? [16:33] oh, but it appears to be okay [16:33] well yeah, but.. if you change that configuration file, it should work [16:33] XKBMODEL="pc105" [16:33] XKBLAYOUT="us" [16:33] XKBVARIANT="dvorak-intl" [16:33] XKBOPTIONS="lv3:ralt_switch" [16:34] mh: did you change it prior to looking at it? [16:34] ? [16:34] not me [16:34] well, yeah, through the gui though [16:34] that's why its currently correct [16:34] doesn't matter [16:34] the GUI is just a front for that file really. [16:34] try this.. [16:35] do something to that file (like type a letter then delete it) [16:35] then save it.(make sure you're root) [16:35] and then reboot and see if the hcanges take lace [16:35] ubuntu_: do you only have 1 hard drive? [16:36] okay thanks [16:36] no [16:36] I mean, I have an usb connected one for storage [16:36] okay, let's sudo reboot now [16:36] usb sata in a caddie [16:37] ok, i was referring to internal drives [16:39] ubuntu_: wait, i see now... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair [16:39] go there [16:39] lost wifi connection [16:39] ok. [16:39] am I still here? [16:39] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair [16:39] go to that website [16:40] that's where I am, and trying to understand [16:40] no luck. [16:40] ok,... you're on a lubuntu live cd, right? [16:40] sorry mh, i'm at a loss on that issue. [16:40] yes [16:40] 11.04 [16:40] mh: maybe bioterror or phillw will know [16:41] ubuntu_: open a terminal [16:41] yes [16:41] paste this line into the terminal... sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair [16:41] let it add the repository [16:41] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair [16:42] then paste that line, and let boot-repair install [16:42] it is installing !! [16:43] great [16:43] I must have made some pasting error [16:43] ok [16:43] another question; I am the only user here and I don't want the login window when I boot. how can I disable this? [16:44] I am a lubuntu user? [16:44] hmm, [16:44] yes. [16:44] why? [16:44] i'm assuming you are anyway [16:46] mh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_to_enable_automatic_logon_in_LXDM [16:46] I changed my account type from custom to administrator to see if it helps with my layout issue [16:46] ubuntu_: did it install ok? [16:46] yes, and I started it [16:46] mh: i bet that will fix your problem [16:46] do I just run the simple repair ? [16:47] ubuntu_: i would try that first [16:47] if I make a boot info summary, it will not interfere ? [16:47] ubuntu_: i wouldn't think so, but.. don't know, i've never really used that utility [16:48] recommended repair is running [16:48] sda1 is always internal? [16:48] no, not necessarily, but usually [16:49] oh no [16:49] ? [16:49] mh: use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_to_enable_automatic_logon_in_LXDM [16:49] I didn't unplug my usb hd [16:49] ubuntu_: i was just thinking that [16:50] well, hopefully it won't mess w/ it [16:50] thanks phillw [16:50] it's blinking something worryingly [16:50] sorry for the echo, KM ;) [16:50] it happens [16:50] I hope any error is repairable [16:51] if it's not, this will be an abject lesson to disconnect unecessary drives while tryign to fix a drive [16:51] (but it's probably OK) [16:52] I'm letting the process run through, it might be all right [16:52] it takes several minutes it seems [16:52] doing a thorough job [16:53] it would be majorly stupid to have grub on a usb [16:54] ubuntu_: not really, it's not an uncommonthing for people to do. [16:54] I am not alone ? : ) [16:55] the boot repair is a nice on [16:55] one [16:55] a program that runs its self [16:56] ubuntu_: as long as it works [16:57] yes [16:57] great for not experts [16:58] as long as it works.. [16:58] trying to fix stuff in file manager and root is major [16:58] naa, you just gotta get the hang of it [16:58] it's easy after you've done it a while. [17:00] it feels like the big confusion === ubuntu_ is now known as silverarrow [17:01] I can now reboot [17:01] ok [17:01] i figured that was you [17:02] sorry, at first the nick change lagged [17:03] no problem [17:03] I'm doing the summary too [17:04] lubuntu is nicer than puppy [17:04] desktop is more soli [17:04] not so flimsy [17:04] maybe I can get the lubuntu desktop in puppy linux [17:04] nothing worked [17:05] silver why would you do that? [17:05] change keyboard layout did not work, disable login screen did not work [17:06] what..? [17:06] i think you're doing something wrong, are you editing thos efiles, and saving them, as root? [17:09] editing keyboard should be the easiest thing [17:13] lol, i love his little wise ass comments [17:13] he can't find his rear end from a hole in the ground, and then talks about how easy things should be..lol [17:17] I do everything with sudo [17:18] well, thats just as silly [17:19] what's the current progress on Arm builds of LUbuntu? :) [17:20] KM0201: I mean everything that was involved in this process... [17:20] yeah, i know.. :) [17:23] kvarley: the latest info I can find is at http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-11-10-beta-2-oneiric-ocelot-released.html [17:24] KM0201: can you please repeat the file that is behind the keyboard layout? [17:24] mh: /etc/default/keyboard [17:26] hi [17:26] it worked [17:26] all fine [17:27] thought I have no idea where the grub wet [17:27] went* [17:28] my guess is, you did something to it. [17:30] grub [17:30] hmm [17:30] |grub [17:31] how do you get the grub info? [17:31] !grub2 | silverarrow [17:31] silverarrow: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [17:31] thanks [17:39] I am mh. Gosh, I cannot access Lxkeymap now [17:40] probably since I changed some stuff in that keyboard file [17:41] not that is not the grub [17:41] unit193? [17:42] silverarrow: there is some background reading on grub2 along with some notes at http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5 [17:42] can anyone tell me what do you have inside etc/default/keyboard? how are those four lines? [17:43] thanks [17:43] wait [17:43] root? [17:44] nothing in a way [17:44] mmhh: http://pastebin.com/DeV10c4R [17:44] thanks phillw [17:45] mmhh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/696787/ [17:45] * Unit193 USA [17:45] mine is an extended kbd with UK layout [17:45] (windows key on it) [17:45] thanks Unit193 [17:46] http://imagebin.org/174013 [17:46] Unit193: cool, my LVM guest additions are now working with lubuntu on my VM :) [17:46] oh a bit late there [17:46] phillw: Awesome! So still testing LSC? [17:46] Unit193: indeed. I have the latest one on. Very impressed with it :) [17:47] phillw: The one in bzr should be newer [17:47] bbl - dinner time! [17:48] Have some great grub [17:49] how do I check where grub went? [17:49] Where grub went? Did it walk off your computer? [17:50] not far from [17:50] You have to be a little more clear [17:50] I ran a grub repair, and I am a bit worried it went on my external usb connected SATA hd [17:50] check /etc/default/grub for config items [17:51] stupid question: how can I put a shortcut in the menu bar? [17:51] mh: Ah, it's handily in the FAQs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides [17:52] looks like it is in the right place [17:53] thanks Unit193 [17:54] thanks for the grub help [18:06] hey, if I choose Default instead of Lubuntu I get Xsession: unable to launch Lubuntu xsession, failing back etc. How can I solve this? [18:06] (In the login) [18:07] In LXDM, the session that's supposed to be used is Lubuntu [18:07] Unit193: instead of Default? [18:08] Exactly, see if that works [18:08] it works, but I assume that this error is connected to the fact that Lubuntu is not saving my keyboard settings when I boot [18:09] when I reboot [18:09] it also always showing the login screen, even when I set not to show it [18:11] Set not to show it in /etc/lxdm/default.conf ? [18:11] yep [18:12] autologin=mh [18:13] session=/usr/bin/startlubuntu [18:17] if I logout, the keyboard settings remain [18:17] but they dissapear as soon as I reboot [18:17] what's the little button that gives one shudown options etc called? [18:18] I've managed to delete it from my panel & would like to put it back.... [18:20] the strange thing is that if I comment everything in /etc/default/keyboard, change stuff in lxkeymap, nothing changes in /etc/default/keyboard . Even after reboot, everything is still commented [18:21] by the way, I have chosen lxdm instead of gdm. maybe this is the reason? [18:21] (I started with ubuntu and changed to lubuntu) [18:39] hello [18:41] I want to install the x86_64 Lubuntu inside a luks partition which in turn is installed inside a group of HD in RAID5 configuration. Made with a RAID5 controller Intel ICH10R [18:42] but the installation often freezes or ends but the system does not start [18:45] va bene lascio perdere [18:45] okay I give up [19:23] I would like to run an app when lubuntu starts, how can I do that? [19:23] actually I want to add a line [19:23] setxkbmap dvorak :) [19:28] anyone? [19:29] mh: If it needs to run as a startup script, add it to /etc/rc.local . If it needs to run at GUI logon, see the FAQ for autostarting apps... [19:30] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_I_can_autostart_a_program_when_logging_in_to_Desktop [19:34] thanks jmarsden [19:35] mh: You're welcome. [20:08] phillw: are you around? [20:08] cjohnston: I'm lurking :) [20:09] I'm wondering if my issue with lubuntu booting up has to do with the fact that those nvidia drivers are having trouble installing [20:10] I get a crash when it tries to install.. I'm trying to find the bug that was reported by apport last time [20:10] cjohnston: as I don't run on nvidia, I'm not really the best person to ask. I'm sure one of the support team has experience of them. [20:11] Gotcha [20:54] curious..does lubuntu have a decent installer similar to anaconda, whereby if you have windows7 and need to do paritition but are a naive windows user, that it guides you at least , or is this guidance in the self teach arena ? ;) [21:03] "xsession:unable to launch ubuntu x session" [21:04] and gives me lxde instead of lubuntu [21:04] neighborlee: never had to do any kind of repartitioning, but yes, the installer was graphical and pretty good one [21:04] it happens whenever I reboot [21:04] any help on this? [21:04] this happens if I use lxdm. I have no problems with gdm [21:05] should I use gdm instead of lxdm? [21:08] neighborlee: the ubiquity installer that the ubuntu family use will happily install side by side with windows, Lubuntu uses the same system. [21:10] mh: Instead of "startx" try "sudo service lxdm start". That should give you the actual Lubuntu DE instead of standard LXDM. [21:11] phillw: where? I got that error from startx when I boot [21:11] neighborlee: have a read of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot [21:12] mh: does issuing the command to start lxdm work when startx dies? [21:13] it goes to lxde desktop [21:14]