[21:11] <NRWlion> huhu
[21:11] <Cheesehead> Recycled Brainstorm Idea #3525: Ubuntu Beverages for in-person events - put Ubuntu stickers on the drink bottles.
[21:12] <Cheesehead> (I wanted somebody to see it, since I'm closing the idea)
[21:13] <NRWlion> hi Cheesehead
[21:13] <Cheesehead> Hello
[21:14] <charlie-tca> I gave up on Brainstorm, my password won't let me login, and it won't give me a new one.
[21:15] <charlie-tca> Not really any good, can't review ideas, can't do nothing...
[21:15] <Cheesehead> I can help you with that.
[21:15] <Cheesehead> charlie-tca: One moment...
[21:17] <Cheesehead> charlie-tca: Do you remeber the e-mail address you used? The teamcharlies[etc]?
[21:17] <charlie-tca> I don't know anymore. I gave up on it many months ago
[21:19] <Cheesehead> charlie-tca: Send me an e-mail at ian[at]korinthianviolins.com, and I'll reset your Brainstorm account.
[21:19] <NRWlion> what is that Brainstorm thing? and what does it take to get access?
[21:19] <Cheesehead> Brainstorm is a portal for ideas to improve Ubuntu.
[21:20] <Cheesehead> It was abused for a few years, but we have finally worked out some effective moderation
[21:21] <Cheesehead> Most of what we do is refer you to the appropriate venue for the idea, or the bug tracker, mentor you through the process
[21:21] <Cheesehead> (We get a lot of new users who simply don;t know the community, or the etiquette, or the reasons we do things the way we do)
[21:22] <NRWlion> Cheesehead: that is why I am asking
[21:23] <Cheesehead> The easiest way to find out is just to see: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[21:24] <Cheesehead> That Idea I posted was from three years ago. I'm closing it becasue it's fun, but not really an idea to improve Ubuntu.
[21:25] <charlie-tca> Cheesehead: sent, but I don't want the other QA logins messed up by this. If it will, I will stay out of brainstorm.
[21:25] <Cheesehead> It should not mess up any QA logins. never has for me.
[21:25] <Cheesehead> (If it did, that would be a bug)
[21:26] <Cheesehead> You can see the site wihout logging in, of course
[21:27] <charlie-tca> Yes, I had moderator status for Xubuntu way back when it first started
[21:28] <charlie-tca> Then I lost my login ability and after a while, gave up.
[21:31] <Cheesehead> charlie-tca: I responded (escalated the issue). I don't want to well-intentionedly make things worse, so I'll ask uphill first.
[21:32] <charlie-tca> Works for me. Thanks for your help.
[21:32] <Cheesehead> Anytime
[21:32] <charlie-tca> I still have the original confirmation from 2008 that said I should be able to login to brainstorm, but it don't work, of course
[21:33] <Cheesehead> If anyone else has mysteriously lost QA or Brainstorm access, please ping me in case the issue is wider than just one person.
[21:33] <SilverLion> Cheesehead: is it recommended to be loged in there at brainstorm because i am mainly here because of the leadership issure
[21:34] <charlie-tca> I had it mainly for Xubuntu items in brainstorm, since no one does anything with them.
[21:34] <Cheesehead> charlie-tca: And here I've been begging for experts to drop by from time to time and leave authoritative answers!
[21:34] <Cheesehead> Well, we'll get it sorted out.
[21:35] <Cheesehead> Thanks for mentioning it!
[21:35] <SilverLion> Cheesehead: who are you talking to?
[21:35] <charlie-tca> You are welcome. It is really hard for experts to drop by when they can't
[21:35] <Cheesehead> SilverLion: Agreed - login is preferable to accomplish anything.
[21:36] <charlie-tca> I used to try every month or two, but after a while, it becomes too much of an effort
[21:36] <Cheesehead> charlie-tca: It's changed a lot since May.
[21:36] <charlie-tca> (when you can't access the questions at all)
[21:36] <SilverLion> Cheesehead:
[21:36] <SilverLion> am i able to register myself or do you need to set up my account there?
[21:36] <charlie-tca> Oh, I can guarantee I haven't tried since May.
[21:37] <Cheesehead> SilverLion: You can register yourself. It should cause no conflict with other QA logins.
[21:37] <SilverLion> copy
[21:37] <SilverLion> will try tomorrow
[21:38] <SilverLion> havent had sleep last 24hrs
[21:39] <Cheesehead> charlie-tca: We've become much more agressive about modding away bugs and complaints
[21:39] <charlie-tca> That's probably needed now, since it should have grown a lot.
[21:40] <Cheesehead> Last year at this time, we approved around 60-80 ideas a month. Now it's down to about 20.
[21:40] <charlie-tca> I remember when everything was on one page
[21:40] <charlie-tca> maybe I shouldn't say that. Makes me seem old now
[21:40] <Cheesehead> I remember it too.
[21:42] <Cheesehead> Another fellow (or two) and me are going back through the old not-ideas and closing them out.
[21:42] <charlie-tca> Great! Clearing the old off-topic stuff has to improve things
[21:43] <Cheesehead> And then closing out the real three-year-old ideas that have been superseded or mooted or passed by or implemented.
[21:43] <charlie-tca> We passed a lot of xubuntu ideas by, since we couldn't really do anything else
[21:43] <Cheesehead> In the last six months, we've gotten much better at keeping the ideas on-topic.
[21:45] <charlie-tca> The idea of Brainstorm always was good. It just takes a bit of time to implement something without getting lost in it.
[21:47] <Cheesehead> Very true.
[21:49] <Cheesehead> I'm trying very hard to change the orientation of Brainstorm. It produces good ideas to improve Ubuntu, but that's only secondary. It's primary output should be all those new submitters getting directed onto teams and projects.
[21:58] <charlie-tca> It's original intent was to pool ideas that were not yet up to "yes, we can do that" status
[21:59] <charlie-tca> Well, better go hold my meeting today
[21:59] <Cheesehead> Enjoy