| YoBoY | good morning | 06:01 |
|---|---|---|
| vifitor | hello | 12:52 |
| vifitor | can someone tell me how to install wlan on ubuntu | 12:52 |
| vifitor | sprecht ihr deutsch? | 12:53 |
| vifitor | #help | 12:54 |
| bkerensa | vifitor | 12:55 |
| bkerensa | vifitor: Het is het beste om naar # Ubuntu terecht voor ondersteuning moet doen begrijp je? | 12:56 |
| bkerensa | om naar #ubuntu | 12:56 |
| vifitor | ich versteh dich nicht | 12:56 |
| vifitor | i dont understand | 12:56 |
| bkerensa | Support in #Ubuntu | 12:57 |
| bkerensa | Although for Deustch try maybe a local channel for your language? | 12:57 |
| bkerensa | Niederländisch oder Deutsch? | 12:58 |
| vifitor | deutsch | 12:58 |
| bkerensa | vifitor: Nederlanse? | 12:58 |
| bkerensa | ok one sec | 12:58 |
| bkerensa | vifitor: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/ | 12:59 |
| bkerensa | good? | 12:59 |
| vifitor | -nl is nederlanse? | 12:59 |
| vifitor | i need german | 12:59 |
| bkerensa | ahh | 12:59 |
| bkerensa | :) | 12:59 |
| head_victim | !de | vifitor | 13:00 |
| bkerensa | vifitor: In that case join #ubuntu-de | 13:00 |
| bkerensa | :D | 13:00 |
| bkerensa | Just type /join #ubuntu-de | 13:00 |
| head_victim | Ohhh no bot in here | 13:00 |
| vifitor | well thanks | 13:02 |
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| === XOXO1 is now known as Antwon | ||
| paultag | mhall119: dude, reedfeeder | 18:18 |
| paultag | mhall119: been a while since I've looked at it | 18:19 |
| paultag | mhall119: the screenshot looks really really really good | 18:19 |
| paultag | mhall119: looks like you're doing a super awesome job | 18:19 |
| paultag | keep it up | 18:19 |
| paultag | <- impressed | 18:19 |
| mhall119 | paultag: I'm considering killing it | 18:39 |
| paultag | mhall119: Any reason why? or is it just taking up too much free time and not enough intrest? | 18:40 |
| mhall119 | not enough interest, it doesn't seem that there's really a demand for it | 18:40 |
| mhall119 | I haven't gotten much feedback from beta users, but most logged in one or twice and stopped using it | 18:40 |
| paultag | mhall119: well, sometimes to move forward it becomes necessary to move back | 18:41 |
| paultag | mhall119: humm. | 18:41 |
| mhall119 | I've got some functionality additions I still want to make, and then I think I'm going to open it up to general availability for free, and see where it goes | 18:41 |
| mhall119 | I don't see it working as a subscription model though | 18:41 |
| paultag | mhall119: yeah that might be tough to do. | 18:42 |
| mhall119 | oh well, fail fast, right? | 18:42 |
| paultag | mhall119: yessir! | 18:42 |
| paultag | no need for it to become a time / money / server load pit | 18:42 |
| mhall119 | if it doesn't work, I'll move it back to my personal use only (because *I* like it), and move on to my next idea | 18:42 |
| mhall119 | yeah, right now it's $15/month, not a big deal | 18:43 |
| mhall119 | I'll be honest, probably my biggest problem is me, not readfeeder | 18:43 |
| * paultag shrugs | 18:43 | |
| mhall119 | I suck at promotion and personal interaction | 18:43 |
| paultag | mhall119: Yeah, that's why I write software for myself - and if I find it useful, perhaps other people will too | 18:43 |
| mhall119 | true | 18:43 |
| mhall119 | and readfeeder is still AGPL, so other people can do what they want with it | 18:44 |
| paultag | mhall119: one of these times I'll hit it right and someone who loves it will do something to help it have a skitch of popularity | 18:44 |
| paultag | mhall119: Yeah, truth | 18:44 |
| paultag | mhall119: I finally got around to pushing launchphplib up a bit :) | 18:44 |
| mhall119 | anyway, I think I'm going to look at shifting focus away from bloggers and trying for a more facebook-like audience | 18:44 |
| paultag | mhall119: it works, and it works fairly well - http://pault.ag/launchphplib/ | 18:44 |
| mhall119 | cool | 18:44 |
| paultag | mhall119: yeah, solid idea | 18:44 |
| mhall119 | well, as cool as something containing php can be anyway | 18:44 |
| paultag | mhall119: dude that code is divine | 18:45 |
| mhall119 | paultag: I'm still trying to solidify some actual design around the idea of "making news reading a social activity" | 18:45 |
| paultag | mhall119: if it were an overnight sort of solution, facebook, one of the newspapers, twitter, reddit, slashdot and whoever else would have exploded by now | 18:45 |
| mhall119 | true | 18:46 |
| paultag | perhaps bring it back to the busy-yet-interested folks | 18:46 |
| mhall119 | Google Reader already has a sharing feature, but I've not heard anybody say they use it | 18:46 |
| paultag | email digests if you've not logged in | 18:46 |
| paultag | mhall119: yeah, I've never used that | 18:46 |
| mhall119 | so, I'm trying to figure out what people's activities would be interesting to their friends,if not what articles they're reading | 18:47 |
| paultag | mhall119: people seem to like moral outrage at things | 18:47 |
| mhall119 | lol | 18:47 |
| mhall119 | "Your friend paultag is totally reading some liberal socialist hit piece over on Huffington post, you should tell him how immoral he is" | 18:48 |
| mhall119 | I can see that working | 18:48 |
| paultag | mhall119: hahahahaha that would be awesome | 18:48 |
| mhall119 | i'd have to adopt Facebooks "You have no privacy" stance though | 18:49 |
| * paultag shrugs | 18:49 | |
| mhall119 | hmmm, I wonder if a comment thread that's only between your friends would be something people use | 18:49 |
| paultag | mhall119: humm | 18:50 |
| mhall119 | I can see that working if I use Facebook connect | 18:51 |
| paultag | mhall119: one cool thing that people have always done is newspaper clippings - email forwards - facebook wall posts | 18:51 |
| paultag | mhall119: there's no real good system for sharing and talking about news | 18:51 |
| paultag | and then organizing that in some neat way | 18:51 |
| mhall119 | stuff to think about | 18:54 |
| paultag | yeah, for sure | 18:54 |
| paultag | mhall119: but figured I'd tell you that the screenshot made it look usable (which is rare) and fairly neat / complete | 18:54 |
| paultag | I'd not seen it since you opened up the site, so it looked like a huge jump | 18:54 |
| mhall119 | thanks | 18:56 |
| * paultag gets back to patch review | 18:58 | |
| paultag | mhall119: prod :) | 21:32 |
| paultag | I need a review of a logo concept | 21:34 |
| mhall119 | paultag: prod-back | 23:16 |
| paultag | mhall119: feedback? - http://tag.pault.ag/tagliamonte.png | 23:16 |
| cjohnston | ~/ | 23:18 |
| cjohnston | ~/ | 23:18 |
| mhall119 | cjohnston: works better in bash | 23:18 |
| mhall119 | paultag: I like it | 23:18 |
| cjohnston | uggh | 23:18 |
| mhall119 | the mountains are nice, minimal yet very clear what they are | 23:18 |
| paultag | thanks | 23:19 |
| paultag | something seems... off | 23:19 |
| paultag | I can't figure out what it is | 23:19 |
| mhall119 | I think it's the motto | 23:20 |
| paultag | yeah, true | 23:21 |
| mhall119 | but without it, it's too short and wide | 23:21 |
| paultag | yeah and thin on the bottom | 23:21 |
| mhall119 | could the motto be incorporated into the mountain? | 23:22 |
| paultag | mhall119: I'm thinking of making a sort of trapazoid below the mountin with some slogan in it | 23:23 |
| paultag | mhall119: but I think it might end up being meh as well | 23:23 |
| paultag | I might just need to sleep on it | 23:23 |
| paultag | but something's off about it | 23:23 |
| mhall119 | yeah, I think adding anything more would be too much | 23:23 |
| paultag | +1 | 23:23 |
| paultag | thanks, mhall119 :) | 23:24 |
| mhall119 | np | 23:24 |
| mhall119 | paultag: any opinion on client-side javascript UI toolkits? | 23:25 |
| paultag | mhall119: jQuery is awesome | 23:25 |
| paultag | I really love jQuery a lot | 23:25 |
| paultag | I'd go out of my way to use it | 23:25 |
| mhall119 | ever used ExtJS? | 23:25 |
| paultag | mhall119: no, is it nice? | 23:25 |
| paultag | I played with prototype of whatever, and it was fairly meh | 23:25 |
| mhall119 | I liked it's API design better than JQuery | 23:25 |
| paultag | mhall119: humm, yeah? | 23:26 |
| mhall119 | it seemed more concise to me | 23:26 |
| paultag | interesting | 23:26 |
| mhall119 | you pass a config object to the constructor, rather than having to fill out a list of parameters | 23:26 |
| mhall119 | their objects were nicer, IMO | 23:26 |
| paultag | humm | 23:26 |
| paultag | mhall119: see, I don't mind passing params | 23:26 |
| paultag | but that's cosmetic | 23:27 |
| paultag | mhall119: ExtJS seems super nice | 23:27 |
| mhall119 | it's okay when you have a handful, but if you only want to specify one, and it's the 10th one in the parameter list | 23:27 |
| paultag | mhall119: you can do named params | 23:27 |
| paultag | { "foo" : "bar" } | 23:27 |
| mhall119 | can you in javascript? I didn't realize | 23:27 |
| paultag | mhall119: yeah, man | 23:27 |
| paultag | foo({ "foo" : "bar" }, 200); | 23:28 |
| paultag | is fairly common | 23:28 |
| paultag | and very jQueryish | 23:28 |
| mhall119 | in ExtJS you do new ObjectClass({'foo': 'bar'}) | 23:28 |
| mhall119 | hmmm... | 23:28 |
| paultag | mhall119: yeah, ExtJS seems nice. I think if I spent time with it, I'd like it | 23:28 |
| paultag | I do, however, adore jQuery | 23:29 |
| mhall119 | my concern with ExtJS is that it's really all-encompassing | 23:29 |
| paultag | I also like Javascript in general | 23:29 |
| paultag | I think as a language, it's nice | 23:29 |
| mhall119 | which not only makes the library bigger, but it also means I'll have to re-invent some components if I don't like he ExtJS does them | 23:29 |
| paultag | true | 23:29 |
| mhall119 | ExtJS 4 has a full data modeling framework, like Rails or Django | 23:30 |
| mhall119 | which would be nice if it integrated with those easily, but it doesn't seem that it does | 23:30 |
| mhall119 | I had something that I wrote for Moffitt that would generate a bridge between ExtJS 3 and Django models on the fly | 23:31 |
| mhall119 | but it wasn't open sourced :( | 23:31 |
| paultag | mhall119: write another one :) | 23:32 |
| mhall119 | well I'm likely to, whether for ExtJS or JQuery | 23:32 |
| mhall119 | I just need to decide which | 23:32 |
| * paultag shrugs | 23:33 | |
| mhall119 | ExtJS tries to make your app feel like a desktop app, with resizable frames and tab panels and stuch | 23:33 |
| mhall119 | and I'm definitely going to use it for my next project | 23:33 |
| paultag | I prefer jQuery, but it might be because I "grew up" with it | 23:33 |
| mhall119 | but I don't think I'll be able to integrate many of their widgets into ReadFeeder's look and feel | 23:33 |
| mhall119 | which means it'll be mostly unused | 23:34 |
| paultag | I like jQuery's transition effects | 23:34 |
| mhall119 | I'm leaning towards jQuery | 23:35 |
| mhall119 | and just spending extra time making custom UI code | 23:35 |
| paultag | mhall119: you could try to do a few small things in both | 23:35 |
| paultag | see which comes easier | 23:35 |
| mhall119 | yeah | 23:35 |
| mhall119 | first thing's first, I need to make a JSON API for RF | 23:35 |
| * paultag nods | 23:36 | |
| mhall119 | I think I'm going to try piston this time, instead of rolling my own | 23:36 |
| paultag | mhall119: I think it's easy to SOAP it | 23:36 |
| paultag | but it's not easy to implement client side | 23:36 |
| paultag | and xml is ugly | 23:37 |
| mhall119 | I'll trash RF before I do SOAP | 23:37 |
| paultag | haha | 23:38 |
| paultag | ok, well, off to get drunk with nerds | 23:38 |
| mhall119 | have fun | 23:38 |
| paultag | thanks again, mhall119 | 23:38 |
| mhall119 | np | 23:38 |
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