[00:38] obnoxious, but no different to someone putting half a novel in there really [00:51] hehe [00:58] bazhang: Any reason you haven't kicked qzt? [00:58] s/z/x/ [00:58] Jordan_U, trying to catalyze via PM [00:58] OK. [00:59] ilogic bears watching [01:17] bazhang: If you aren't actively in the process of anything I'm going to ban qxt. [01:19] And I guess freenode staff should be contacted about the clear intention of continual ban evasion? [01:31] qin your just mad because your from China and got a really small rick dick. What are you going to do cry. [01:32] * rww giggles [01:32] yay forwards [01:34] qxt: Howdy. Have a couple of minutes to talk? [01:34] if you can help me with a subprocess with the ipSec of OpenBSD sure [01:34] I am coding atm [01:34] what would you like to talk about [01:35] qxt: not really, no. Would you mind staying out of #ubuntu until you get done coding and then pop back here? I think chatting about your behavior would be a bit more productive than playing cat and mouse. [01:36] we are legion we are one [01:36] who should stay out? [01:37] Yes, yes, I know. Anonymous and ED and all that. Regardless, it does get a bit boring after a while, and I'm sure we both have more interesting things to do :) [01:37] We are not "really" anon [01:38] Anyways, when you get done tinkering with IPsec, let me know and we'll have a chat :) [01:39] it done and we are wondering why weev took out Freenode a few years ago? [01:39] I think he was bored and finds that sort of thing amusing. [01:40] We like irc. Have our own servers. Was dumb of him to do that. [01:40] Nice guy though [01:40] Sucks the Feds nailed him for the ipad thing [01:40] so you see some headers...wow [01:41] should we change them? [01:41] Not really. I ran across him right before he got v&. Was a bit tedious. [01:41] irssi xchat bitchx [01:41] Anyway, this is unrelated to your ban in #ubuntu. Let's chat about that? [01:41] rww you know him'??? [01:41] he is the nicest and funnest guy on earth [01:42] and the biggest troll [01:42] I've banned him a few times, does that count? [01:43] Anyway, yes. qxt. We seem to have a bit of a problem. #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support, and only Ubuntu technical support, but you were being more than a bit offtopic and uncivil. Do you think you could perhaps behave more? [01:43] tell me what you think about weev? [01:44] qxt: I just said, I don't know him well, and we didn't exactly get along smashingly when we ran up against each other :( [01:45] qxt: Would you kindly discuss our current issue, though? [01:45] rww how did he take out Freenode. Is it true it became and admin here. [01:45] rww I know the story... [01:46] qxt: If I remember correctly, he got lilo's i-line password from somewhere. It was before my time, though. [01:47] rww not quite. He impersonated the right ppl. Social engineering was his game. [01:47] rww wow 23 VPN services to choose from. Some with almost 2000 server. I like this set up! [01:48] rww you need any help with anything. Want something tested ? [01:48] qxt: Yes, I'm well aware of how easy it is to evade bans. Like I said, it's also really boring and not very impressive. Probably best if we don't. [01:48] qxt: nah, I'm just watching Doctor Who, not working on any programming right now [01:49] rww I was thinking more on the lines of RFI or something. [01:49] Dr who cool [01:49] old school stuff [01:49] qxt: So yes. Any thoughts about your behavior in #ubuntu earlier? [01:50] This is not my name as you looked and no I never hang out in the Ubuntu channel [01:51] lol you saw the name suckitnun. The kid in me came out when I saw that in twisted wireshark [01:51] Alrighty. We have a bit of an issue, then. I can't let you back in there unless you're going to be on-topic (meaning: ask or answer support questions) and civil (meaning: not calling people gay repeatedly, which is a really boring insult anyway). [01:51] rww not sure what VPNs you might have banned but Ill make you a deal [01:52] And we could go down the route where you use a bunch of VPNs and we ban them over and over, and both sides waste a whole lot of time, but it's been done over and over again in the past and it's really not that fun. [01:52] Since I am thinking about others who use those IPs who are not trolls unban them. [01:53] Yeah, that's another issue with that path. [01:53] rww I have 23 VPN companies to choose from. Each with like 2000 servers as said. I dont care really about me. [01:54] qxt: I know. I have a fairly large list of proxy servers, myself. Nothing to really get excited over :\ [01:54] you have fake headers and don't know if I am Goatse Security or some script kiddy. [01:55] yeah the debian thing is half right though. [01:55] Or if I hacked somebodies VPN account [01:56] dang that Hydra! [01:56] the latter then I guess [01:57] good guess [01:57] Alrighty, this is all fairly irrelevant, as I mentioned. Can we move on? [01:58] checkconnection() { echo "Checking connection in $check_wait seconds..."; while [[ 1 ]]; do sleep $check_wait; echo "Checking connection..."; _tunnels=$(ifconfig -s tun 2>/dev/null); IFS=$'\n'; _tunnels=( $_tunnels ); if [[ ${#_tunnels[@]} -gt $tunnels ]]; then echo "VPN connected."; [01:58] ooops [01:59] well I am getting tired. Its late on on the moon. Be nice to the poor vic that was hacked. Not sure whos account this is. [01:59] See ya [01:59] Heh, I hope you're thanking onryo for that script :) [02:00] sigh [02:47] StepNjump: bazhang read my name backward. You know who I am, be nice and we will be nice. [02:47] qxt I guess [03:12] in reference to laptop screens... raldu Get some sand paper and rub that gloss out. I did. Use a fine grit though. [03:12] ... [03:31] bazhang: no idea. Evollana's using shellmix, which is a crappy shell host but not the VPNs qxt was talking about. [03:31] rww, the reference to 'we' was what made me suspect that [03:31] mhm [03:31] oh well, if they're mostly behaving now... [03:32] indeed [03:51] does ubuntu use APT or zypper [03:51] usual nonsense [03:56] a PPA of unity ? [03:56] augh [04:03] * amin` has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [04:03] * Evollana is now known as qxt [04:04] whoops [04:04] ignore the first line [04:08] sup bazhang ? thought we had a deal? Been helping more ppl out with there Ubuntu problems then that whole # for the last hour and then you mute me? [04:08] their* [04:08] qxt, excuse me? [04:08] bazhang, yeah and I asked you if you still hate me [04:09] qxt, what deal was this [04:09] bazhang you know that I was Evollana [04:09] bazhang, when I logged in I said Ill be nice if you are nice [04:10] qxt, I certainly suspected [04:10] being muted and then ban evading, don't recall any deal involved [04:10] rww, your ban if I am not mistaken [04:11] bazhang, did you not miss the talk rww and I had? [04:11] qxt, since he set the ban, you can discuss with him [04:13] bazhang, lol, I am not worried about the ban thing. Got zillions of servers. rww said their was no point in banning me and that it was a cat and mouse game. He was not impressed etc. Asked me to chill out a while before I bothered that # [04:14] Thing is that I was just bored of programming and decided to help ppl out as you saw. [04:14] qxt, no idea you are addressing me on this. the ban is set by rww . please standby to discuss with him. [04:15] bazhang, I don't give the fat on a frogs fat ass about the ban. It was when I changed my name back to qxt that you muted me. [04:15] qxt, thats not correct [04:15] bazhang, really..... [04:15] yes. [04:16] as he does not seem to be around feel free to drop by later to discuss with him qxt [04:17] so why was I in there for like 2 hours and even talked to you as Evollana and had zero problems. [04:17] I dont pre-emptively ban based on suspicions [04:18] qxt: do your logs show anybody setting a +q after you changed nick back to qxt ? [04:18] bazhang I don't care about the ban. What pissed me off is that I kept my end of the deal [04:18] there was never a deal.. [04:19] bazhang, rww asked to to refrain from # for a little while before I went back. [04:20] bazhang, I take it that Dr. Who is over so if you are not pm'n him now ask. [04:20] qxt: do your logs show anybody setting a +q after you changed nick back to qxt ? [04:21] bazhang, looking [04:21] bazhang, was in shell using irssi and closed it. [04:22] This VM is using xchat but I was not in # then. [04:23] Even if the headers say something else. I change them all the time [04:23] qxt, well, regardless there was never a deal, you perhaps misunderstood. feel free to come back to discuss with rww as he seems to have headed off to sleep. [04:24] bazhang, I really don't think you have much say in when and where I go. You decide if I am going to be nice though. [04:25] bazhang, and if you dont think that I was being and assist to that # I dont know what is. [04:26] qxt, there is no karma. follow the code of conduct and the guidelines in the channel, please. [04:27] bazhang, are you nuts. read the last 2 hours of help I was giving ppl under the name Evollana [04:28] bazhang, and nobody including you have dyslexia. Since you did not read my name backward. [04:29] We did, consider yourself lucky we let you stay in the channel with the nick. [04:29] Please come back in the morning and talk to rww. [04:29] IdleOne, ah come on. I know you have a little smirk on your face. [04:30] rww we going to have a ban war again.... sighhhhhh [04:33] IdleOne, are you the also known as Xc1le on the BackTrack team? [04:33] that isn't me, no. [04:33] never even tried backtrack. [04:33] IdleOne, kk, he was a dev there. [04:34] IdleOne, cool guy/nice guy btw [04:34] thanks I try [04:34] oh, you mean him. [04:35] IdleOne, yeah he was/is I dont know you well enough. [04:35] qxt: How about you take the rest of the night off and give our ops a break, come back in the morning and talk to rww about this ok? [04:35] Yeah its like 6pm here in Hawaii.... should get some sleep maybe. [04:37] IdleOne, I am soooo not worried about the bans... its just that I said I would be nice if... and I was. [04:37] 6:30 actually. So can you please part this channel. [04:39] IdleOne, Yeah you know rww must be English I would guess [04:39] IdleOne, god is in the details [04:39] Don't see how that is relevant but it isn't a fact he has hidden. [04:39] IdleOne, who would watch Dr. Who at the hour I talk to him [04:40] rww a guess [04:40] IdleOne, I like to guess things. I pllandfyyyy dumb. Never show my cards [04:40] IdleOne, good night [04:40] Good night. [04:41] well played IdleOne [09:15] Hey anyone? [09:16] hi [09:26] whazzup [09:28] Word. [09:40] Catson, is there something we can help you with? [09:48] Catson, why are you here? [09:49] i suspect because he thought he couldn't speak in #ubuntu, which might have been a glitch with the floodbots [09:51] ah, he wasn't showing up in the tracker [09:52] did they mute all the things? [09:52] he's muted by default because he's a webchat user [09:53] ah [09:53] one of the floodbots crashed earlier, i'm thinking the exception might not have got set for him [09:53] well i see him chatting in backscroll [09:54] so it did work at some point [09:54] yeah [09:54] Catson, i'm going to remove you from here because we like to keep the channel clear of idlers so we know who needs attention. if you have further issues with the channels, you can come back and talk to us about them [10:22] just can't wait for 11.10 release [12:24] LjL: am I reading this right ? you seem to be up on this technology [12:45] bazhang, is it out? [13:56] In #ubuntu, Lantizia said: !op rosalinda is PM'ing new arrivals for sex cams [15:10] pythonsnake: why do you keep stating "kubuntu / KDE is awesome" randomly to people [15:11] because I love it [15:11] I wish to discuss my remova :) [15:12] pythonsnake: I understand that you love it, and that's great. [15:12] however I've asked you not to do it randomly, [15:12] yet you keep doing it, hence why you where removed. [15:12] the topic of the channel is support disucsison, and I appreciate there can be movement on that as a disucssion unfolds. [15:13] however to just ramdonly keep saying "kubuntu/kde is amazing" out of the blue, isn't really helpful/useful in any way [15:13] pythonsnake: do you understand ? [15:14] Yes [15:15] pythonsnake: so you understand/agree to stop the random comments ? [15:15] yes [15:15] ok, please leave this channel and return to #ubuntu, but please keep in mind what we've discussed [15:42] vibhav: hi, how can we help you? [15:42] hey some guy is sending offensive messages to me [15:42] name-rosalinda [15:42] please kick him [15:43] again? [15:43] !? [15:43] kick rosalinda [15:44] You want the screenshot? [15:44] no need, we had earlier mentions of that [15:44] why not kick him then? [15:45] mrmist: ^ [15:45] vibhav: I just did [15:45] then the bot changed his name? [15:45] what? [15:46] The bot rejoined? [15:46] what and where [15:46] just now [15:46] vibhav: we're in many channel, so some details would be nice [15:46] vibhav: to clarify something: kicking an user from a channel doesn't stop PM [15:47] his name is rosalinda [15:47] vibhav: we cannot control PM [15:47] I joined just now and I got this message [15:47] you can report it in #freenode channel [15:47] vibhav: once more [15:47] WHERE [15:48] http://is.gd/dG0jLg check the screenshot [15:48] vibhav: [15:48] no [15:48] vibhav: I removed/banned that user from #ubuntu channel [15:48] so how did he do that [15:48] vibhav: do what? [15:49] rejoin [15:49] to pm me [15:49] vibhav: you don't understand [15:49] vibhav: we cannot control private messages, they don't need to be on any channel to send private messages [15:49] you joined #ubuntu at 17:41 [15:49] I removed them at 17:45 [15:50] well, 44 [15:50] vibhav: we don't control pm [15:50] O_o [15:52] vibhav: so, thanks for reporting, is there anything else? [15:55] vibhav: ? [16:14] vibhav: how can we help you? [16:17] vibhav: if you don't have anything additional, please part as this channel is not for idling [16:18] Thanks [16:57] pythonsnake: well, we' [16:57] err [16:57] rosalinda in #ubuntu spam me "hii sex cam http://msn-live.net.ms [16:57] " [16:57] pythonsnake: well, we've noticed now. Thanks for reporting [16:58] :) [17:05] Sorted. [17:39] pythonsnake_> well sorry for offtopic comments again.. [17:39] sigh [17:58] pythonsnake> ikonia: I'm sorry, I was just testing something.. [17:58] he's just trying us [18:13] http://pastebin.com/Kc8QGvh2 Now that's just broken. :-) [18:43] I wish people would stop with the "I know $topic is offtopic for $currentChan, but I'm going to ask anyway!" crap. [18:43] Makes me want to /ar $0 consider actually following !guidelines [18:44] Incidentily, '$0' almost looks like a reasonable emoticon for 'troll'. [19:20] rww: i was thinking of adding a factoidforthat yesterday [19:20] so I take it the IRCC meeting flopped [19:21] maybe someone on IRCC should actually send meeting notifications ahead of time, since even IRCC forget they're coming up [19:21] because apparently the "put it on your calendar" I got when I asked for them isn't working [19:21] since, you know, 3/5 of IRCC don't do that either apparently [19:50] alrighty, so attendence at IRCC meetings going back to when the meeting time last changed: [19:50] topyli: 7, jussi: 5, tsimpson: 3, elky: 2, nhandler: 2 [19:51] 3/5 IRCC people not showing up to more than 50% of meetings seems to indicate to me that /something/ needs changing. meeting times, notifications, iono what. [19:53] nhandler used to send reminders, but we just let our google calendar do it now [19:53] and I asked that he continue to do so and he didn't [19:54] that he's only shown up to two meetings seems to indicate that he wasn't right about that perhaps :\ [20:02] the meetings are, for some of us, at "plausible but not reliable" times. [20:03] nod. I don't know whether the issue is that meeting times need changing again or that there's a process failure, but there is indeed an issue. [20:03] i think it's the meeting times. [20:03] nhandler often sends apologies because he's otherwise occupied, although quite awake [20:04] rww, your stats also aren't including the 'Hmm, where is everyone' meetings. [20:04] elky: they're including all meetings where someone showed up [20:04] yeah, i know [20:04] including topyli wandering in and being all "oh look i am king of the meeting" [20:05] It's a bit facepalmy to me that we simultaneously need IRCC people to be online at the same time to do meetings and need IRCC people to be online at different times of the day to deal with things like cloak requests [20:05] ah, see, i look in the ircc channel first [20:05] rww, utterly, yes. [20:06] Perhaps expand the IRCC and institute a quorum. [20:07] Corey: there's downsides to that though, like increasing the possibility for drama in the IRCC [20:11] Corey: increasing membership also increases the quorum requirement though. Attendance statistics like the above make me think that it's something else, and that if we had more people, it'd just be proportionally more inattendance [20:13] rww: Cloak requests are the only thing that requires IRCC to be around 'all the time', right? [20:14] Flannel: assuming that we don't need real-time intervention by IRCC (as "super-ops"), which I don't think we do [20:14] and we're limited to freenode's GC limit there [20:14] *nod* [20:15] Well, I imagine we can probably figure something out for less disruptive cloak requests, but I don't think that's related to meeting attendance. [20:15] i'm not sure how important it is that cloak requests are handled real-time, as long as they're not missed and do get actioned on [20:15] sooner the better of course, it's not nice to leave people hanging [20:16] From freenode's end, it's not important at all. [20:16] Sure, but a few hours of turnaround at off peak times is no big deal. [20:16] The hangup appears to be entirely on Ubuntu's end, and I think involves that LP group for cloaked users? [20:16] which for some reason we think needs to be updated right when the cloak is set [20:17] Normal procedure for group cloaks in general is 1) user asks GC, 2) GC asks a freenode staffer, 3) staff ask the user to confirm if they didn't see (1), 4) cloak applied when the user replies [20:18] ours appears to be 1) user asks #ubuntu-irc, 2) hopefully a GC turns up before the user gets bored and leaves, 3) if not, repeat (1) 4) GC pokes staff, 5) cloak applied in realtime unless the user gets bored before a staffer shows up [20:19] rww: Again, I don't think the cloak process has anything to do with the meeting attendance. Not that it doesn't have kinks that could be worked out. [20:19] Flannel: The fact that we have two things IRCC members have to do that have opposite requirements is a bit silly. [20:19] And a few hours of turnaround often turns into days before someone on IRCC's around when the Member is [20:21] but yes, this is a bit of a tangent [20:21] rww: I don't think IRCC feels a need to be around 24h a day to respond to cloak requests, so while our process seems to indicate it, I don't think it's actually affecting anything. [20:41] th0r called the ops in #ubuntu () [20:43] Can someone confirm that natali is spamming on-join in #ubuntu? They never do it for me. [20:44] rww: confirmed. [20:52] bayesian: hi [20:52] levae me alone [20:53] bayesian: something we can help you with? [20:55] leave you alone? [20:55] bayesian: if not, please /part the channel so that we can keep track of who needs assistance [20:55] busy [20:56] hi [20:56] bayesian: Hi. Why are you /joining this channel? [20:56] ill pm upi when i hav einfo [20:57] rww just go away [20:57] ill deal with it [20:57] i dont need your kick [20:57] bayesian: state your purpose for joining this channel. [20:57] PM me [20:57] why? [20:58] i have ot raise an issue [20:58] bayesian: Then raise it. [20:58] bayesian: raise it. [20:58] calm down [21:00] bayesian: Please either state why you have joined this channel or part now. [21:01] PLEASE [21:01] i have an to check entire column [21:01] column of what?> [21:01] data [21:02] if youll have patiene [21:02] patience [21:02] I don't. [21:02] im trying to get help [21:02] with? [21:02] do you want to me paste it raw?? [21:02] there's pastebins for that. [21:03] I want you to tell me why you are here. [21:03] i said so [21:03] if you can stop distracting me ill paste it [21:08] bayesian, it does not take this long to paste something. If you really must do it in PM, PM me. Just don't sit here doing nothing. [21:08] thanks [21:08] PM me [21:08] No, you want a PM, you initiate it. [21:09] ok [21:10] Well? [21:13] bayesian, I don't appreciate my time being misused like this. I have offered you the opportunity to PM me, and you are not PMing me. [21:15] sorry I got distractged [21:18] bayesian, I am rapidly losing patience with you. [21:19] excuse me? [21:19] kick this joker. It's gone on long enough. [21:20] ive already been kicked twice [21:20] im trying to deal with two things at once [21:20] bayesian: then come back when you want to deal with this one. Leave. [21:21] cant you jsut give me 1 mom [21:21] you've had enough. LEAVE. [21:21] you've been given 30 minutes [21:22] its all this distractrion [21:22] I jut awnt to ask a simple q [21:22] ask it. [21:22] bayesian, you are asking that I sit here, during my work time in which I must account for all time spent, and wait, paying attention, for you to decide to communicate at whim? [21:22] no elky [21:22] if youre away its not a probolem [21:22] i didnt want to rush you [21:22] bayesian, then please communicate, this channel is not for idling in. That's why you're getting removed. [21:22] and i just ask the same of me === marienz_ is now known as marienz [21:28] that was less than helpful. [21:29] thats my fault that I pushed for that, but as soon as he was banned from here he logged off. [21:29] I have no belief that there was any genuine issue beyond time wasting [21:30] it wasn't your fault. [21:37] From my work IRC channel: " Microsoft's IE developers have a friendly tradition of sending Mozilla's Firefox developers a congratulatory cake whenever a new edition of Firefox debuts" I think I've found the cause of the shorter release cycles [21:37] aaand, that was wc. === marienz_ is now known as marienz [21:52] Hi there, anyone remove my ban please? [21:53] Been well over a week now [21:58] Anyone with a yes or no please! [21:59] Koheleth: the time isn't the factor here. [22:00] so what is [22:00] Koheleth: I'm happy to remove the ban, if you can stop with the annoying behaviour such as pretending to be drunk [22:00] ok, done [22:01] no problem then. [22:01] one moment please. [22:01] thanks [22:01] (please keep in mind, I'm not saying "just" pretending to be drunk, but that sort of annoying random distruptive behaviour) [22:01] you do understand that ? [22:02] sure, great thanks again [22:02] no problem, just give me a minute and I'll have this removed for you [22:02] great luvly jubly [22:03] english expression for superb [22:03] I know, I'm English [22:03] can you please try to join now. [22:03] ok, thanks [22:04] ok, please keep in mind what we've discussed today and in the past about your contribution to #ubuntu-offtopic [22:04] and you're welcome to leave this channel now. === marienz_ is now known as marienz [23:43] please look at the flowr at #ubuntu an unallfilated [23:44] urlin2u, i have been since before you looked here, thanks :) [23:44] no prob