[00:41]  * MarkDude thinks the word *master* is misplaced for right now. I mean it is still down?
[17:37] <seidos> go to zareason to practice zazen on a zafu with zsa zsa gabor
[19:11] <grantbow> ping MarkDude and/or anyone present at berkeleylug.com
[19:27] <pleia2> added leadership elections to the agenda, just so it's out there, our process is pretty much documented
[19:45] <bkerensa> pleia2: Do all LoCo's hold elections or is it kind of up to the LoCo to determine if there is some sort of need?
[19:45] <greg-g> as with much in the loco world, it is loco-specific
[19:46] <grantbow> pleia2: hey! Thanks for keeping things moving forward.
[19:46] <greg-g> bkerensa: the Michigan loco just had an "election" when I left. I was the leader/contact but since I moved to SF they needed a replacement. I basically proposed who I thought would be good, and the rest of the team voted during an IRC meeting.
[19:46] <greg-g> it was kind of obvious who would be the next leader, though :)
[19:46]  * grantbow nods at loco specific
[19:47] <bkerensa> greg-g: Ahh :) Well imho I dont think anyone at this point wants the role but I hope (fingers crossed) I can get people more interested in helping with various things and hopefully the LoCo will be active enough at some point that I can if I choose rotate out :)
[19:48] <bkerensa> 26 People on IRC and 150 members on ML but I can only get 16+ to show up to a event
[19:48] <bkerensa> so idk
[19:48] <bkerensa> :P
[19:50] <bkerensa> I'm told Portland has more Canonical employees then any other region in the U.S. and yet I have only ever seen one attend a event :P
[19:57] <greg-g> bkerensa: 16 at an event is not bad. People just tend to join mailing list and LP teams fo rthe hell of it
[19:58] <bkerensa> we moderate the LP and ML
[19:59] <bkerensa> idk :) With OSU OSL/PSU Engineering/Canonical/Yahoo/Google/Intel there are a lot of Linux users and with FreeGeek being in Portland kind of makes Oregon a Ubuntu Hotbed
[19:59] <bkerensa> :D
[19:59] <bkerensa> They giveout untold amounts of Ubuntu boxes a month
[20:08] <philipballew> makes me wonder if some Canonical dont really care about Ubuntu us much as you'd think
[20:10] <rww> what does?
[20:11] <bkerensa> philipballew: idk... a handful of people were bashing on Canonical at PuppetConf... I guess they forgot the Ubuntu Booth was just feet away or they didnt care...
[20:13] <bkerensa> philipballew: In fact Jef Spaleta posted on Mark Shuttleworth's blog asking whether Ubuntu Oregon would address somethings at PuppetConf so one of the Canonical guys came over and asked if we knew about the blog post and such
[20:18] <pleia2> Ubuntu is why Canonical exists, you could argue that they don't care about LoCo teams as much as you think they should, but even that feels pretty weak
[20:18] <pleia2> but saying they don't care about Ubuntu doesn't make sense
[20:20] <pleia2> I do sometimes wish they integrated us into their marketing strategy, but I kind of like the autonomy that teams have as being community-driven and supported
[20:20] <pleia2> if canonical went away tomorrow, the california loco would be fine :)
[20:30] <bkerensa> :P
[20:30] <bkerensa> If Canonical went away they would likely be acquired and the trademark would change hands ;)
[20:31] <pleia2> the ubuntu foundation is around to handle that
[20:31] <pleia2> (that's specifically why it exists)
[20:31] <bkerensa> Was the Ubuntu Foundation not supposedly supposed to have a staff already and be non-defunct? I never did know what the situation was with that
[20:31] <bkerensa> :D
[20:31] <bkerensa> oh
[20:32] <pleia2> it's not really going to be activated unless canonical fails and an organization is needed to handle legal stuff to protect the project
[20:32] <bkerensa> http://www.ubuntu.com/news/UbuntuFoundation
[20:33] <bkerensa> well their press release is inaccurate :) because it says it should have employees
[20:33] <bkerensa> :P
[20:33] <pleia2> that's an old press release, their vision has changed over time
[20:33] <pleia2> canonical ended up taking on more roles than initially thought
[20:34] <bkerensa> yeah
[20:35] <pleia2> but if you read it the core of it is that it's a guarentee that even if a company goes away, the foundation has some money to fulfill obligations
[20:35] <bkerensa> I guess it would have been cool if they followed through with initial idea because Automattic/Wordpress did the same
[20:35] <bkerensa> Automattic transfered trademark of WP to .org and seperated business from community
[20:36] <bkerensa> to allow for continuity
[20:36] <pleia2> yeah, I don't know why they went the way they did, there were probably lots of lawyers and accountants involved :)
[20:36] <bkerensa> Yeah
[20:36] <bkerensa> :D
[20:36] <rww> automattic <3
[20:36] <rww> oh, that reminds me
[20:37] <rww> pleia2: you mentioned at some point that you do periodic database backups of wordpress. do you just dump the mysql db, or is there a WP plugin for it or something?
[20:37] <pleia2> rww: daily script using mysqldump
[20:37] <bkerensa> rww: dump for the win!
[20:37] <rww> k
[20:37] <pleia2> but I'm sure there is a wordpress plugin for it
[20:37] <pleia2> I just have other mysql stuff, so it makes sense to back it all up at once
[20:38] <bkerensa> phpmyadmin - export
[20:38] <pleia2> phpmyadmin, swiss cheesy security, fun!
[20:38] <pleia2> phpmyadmin--
[20:38] <bkerensa> :) indeed
[20:39] <pleia2> my script also rotates backups, so I keep a weeks worth
[20:40] <bkerensa> Pretty easy to secure though.... I have yet to get exploited and have used it for years (not currently but from time to time)
[20:40]  * bkerensa just does full server backups twice weekly
[20:40] <bkerensa> :)
[20:40] <pleia2> tossing it behind an .htaccess file and https is probably enough security
[20:41] <bkerensa> all user data and config
[20:41] <pleia2> but most people don't bother, it's scary :)
[20:41] <bkerensa> pleia2: And disable root login
[20:41] <bkerensa> :P
[20:41] <rww> nod, the big problem with pma is all the botnets scanning for publicly-accessible insecure versions of it
[20:41] <bkerensa> indeed
[20:41] <bkerensa> change paths up and secure it
[20:41] <rww> and keep it up to date
[20:43] <bkerensa> Cloudflare prevents a majority if not all exploit scans too
[21:45] <philipballew> DarkwingDuck, is it to early to add libertopia to the meeting aganda?