[12:03]  * bkerensa runs yum update
[17:04] <tgm4883> s/yum/apt-get/
[19:12] <bkerensa> :( Darn Apache keeps failwhaling
[19:57] <nathwill> i had the same problem last night
[19:57] <nathwill> freaking nuke and restore was needed to fix it
[20:00] <bkerensa> heh
[20:00] <bkerensa> this was due to a plugin though
[20:00] <bkerensa> keeps borking .htaccess and making changes to apache for caching and varnish stuffs
[20:01] <bkerensa> So because of the amount of data I have I made a backup and am going  to wait a till next friday and do a in-depth fix... Right now I just swapped out plugins
[20:40] <nathwill> apache mod or web-app plugin?
[20:42] <bkerensa> web app
[20:42] <bkerensa> =/
[20:42] <bkerensa> Wordpress even
[20:42] <bkerensa> W3 Total Cache <--- Used it for a long time but it borks every so many months
[20:42] <bkerensa> idk
[20:42] <bkerensa> :P
[21:41] <nathwill> sounds fun
[21:57] <c_smith> g'day!
[22:06] <nathwill> cheerio
[22:28] <c_smith> wassup?
[23:33] <nathwill> more of the same
[23:33] <nathwill> workin'
[23:33] <nathwill> you?
[23:42] <c_smith> getting Kubuntu up and runnin'
[23:42] <nathwill> fun :)
[23:42] <nathwill> new pc, or just a new install?
[23:45] <c_smith> new install is all
[23:46] <c_smith> almost done anyway
[23:49] <nathwill> has Kubuntu gotten better? used to be people complained that it was a really bad default KDE config.
[23:50] <c_smith> gotten better since when, might ask?
[23:51] <c_smith> frankly. aside from the many crashes of Kwin when using Wine, it's pretty smooth.
[23:52] <c_smith> plus, this is only temporary until 11.10 comes out, at which point, I'm wiping the hard drive, installing openSUSE then Ubuntu 11.10.
[23:53] <nathwill> ah
[23:54] <nathwill> i don't really know, tbh. i have not used KDE much myself, aside from a brief fling w/ Fedora KDE, but i've seen lots of comments from people who disliked the Ubuntu KDE spin for some reason.
[23:57] <c_smith> well. one thing Kubuntu has over Ubuntu is Kpackagekit is able to install a good deal of software at one time without it crashing every few selected packages like the Software Center does, this is because the software are marked for installation like in Synaptic, but not actually installed until you click "apply"
[23:57] <nathwill> nice
[23:58] <nathwill> i understand where Ubuntu is trying to go w/ SC, but i'm old school, and like my "apt-get" and my "apt-cache search", though i never had the problem you described w/ the crashing
[23:59] <c_smith> never got the hang of apt-cache search, but I use apt-get for what packages I can, so I hear ya.
[23:59] <c_smith> the apt-cache search part I never could remember the command.