[02:53] <zilly> What's the easiest way to automatically login a user?
[03:12] <GridCube> zilly, ?
[03:12] <GridCube> how so?
[03:13] <GridCube> you mean to autologin a session?
[03:13] <zilly> GridCube, I don't think.  I don't want a GDM to display.  I want to user to be logged in without having to enter a password or anything.
[03:13] <GridCube> :)
[03:13] <GridCube> its easy
[03:14] <zilly> GridCube, mind letting me in on the secret? =]
[03:14] <GridCube> :P
[03:14] <GridCube> go to >System >Login screen (sp?) and set it up to autlogin
[03:14] <GridCube> (sorry i have my setup in spañish)
[03:15] <zilly> GridCube, I don't have a login screen under system.
[03:15] <GridCube> you can launch the aplication whit >alt-F2 >gdm-setup >run
[03:16] <GridCube> sorry i can't remember the correct names in english
[03:16] <GridCube> (or if they moved it of place on 11.04)
[03:17] <GridCube> but whit the last thing i gave you, you should be able to configure it to autologin
[03:17] <GridCube> !info gdmsetup
[03:17] <GridCube> :(
[03:20] <GridCube> it does exist zilly is gdmsetup
[03:20] <GridCube> whit no -
[03:20] <zilly> GridCube, do you have to have gdm installed?
[03:20] <GridCube> i just tried it
[03:20] <GridCube> yes
[03:20] <GridCube> zilly, if you don't a lot of things will broke
[03:21] <GridCube> also until 11.04 gdm is part of xubuntu, whitout it we can not provide you support :(
[03:21] <GridCube> because its part of xubuntu
[03:21] <GridCube> starting whit 11.10 we will ship lightdm
[03:22]  * GridCube says "we" as he is part of the team XD
[03:22] <GridCube> as if^
[03:28] <bazhang> well you offer support enough, so surely a part of the team (community)
[03:30] <Unit193> bazhang: He is, he does ISO testing too
[03:30] <Unit193> Making a slick new interface for it even
[03:30] <bazhang> Unit193, indeed, to counter his "as if"
[07:34] <bergasche> n
[08:42] <Zepretender> Hi, I'm a newbie and I try to use Vino on lastest stable Xubuntu. Can't find xfce4-autostart-editor to autostart it... Anyone can help me ?
[09:31] <ALECV> Buongiorno
[09:31] <ALECV> qualcuno può aiutarmi per l'istallazione di xubuntu?
[09:32] <well_laid_lawn> !it | ALECV
[09:32] <well_laid_lawn> I hope that's italian... :)
[09:32] <ALECV> [11:31] == #xubuntu-it Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited
[09:33] <ALECV> i not can join, only invite :)
[09:33] <well_laid_lawn> that's not friendly
[09:34] <well_laid_lawn> ALECV: try /join #ubuntu-it
[09:34] <ALECV> idem
[09:38] <well_laid_lawn> ALECV: I don't know what idem means
[09:39] <ALECV> gives me the same error, by invitation only (google translatre)
[09:40] <well_laid_lawn> ALECV: I just joined #ubuntu-it with no problem - are you registered on freenode?
[09:40] <well_laid_lawn> !register
[09:42] <ALECV> thx well_laid_lawn
[09:43] <well_laid_lawn> np :)
[09:57] <wontboot> morning everyone
[09:58] <wontboot> may I ask something ?
[09:58] <wontboot> been fighting to install xubuntu or lubuntu for over 5 hours now
[09:59] <wontboot> more that my first slackware in 1995...
[09:59] <wontboot> is there any web page I missed that would cover booting problems ?
[09:59] <SaaMmY> morning
[09:59] <wontboot> the live CD boots all-right
[09:59] <wontboot> but I can't get the system to boot then from HD
[09:59] <wontboot> I eventually replaced the boot loader with LILO
[10:00] <m6locks> did the installer copy all the files to your HD succesfully?
[10:00] <wontboot> which gets the thing to start up but eventually bumps into weird HD problems I'd never seen before, and drops me into some sort of failsafe command-line mode
[10:00] <SaaMmY> I would try with SUPERGRUBDISK wontboot
[10:00] <wontboot> from which I only have read-only access
[10:00] <SaaMmY> SGD
[10:00] <wontboot> yes it did
[10:00] <wontboot> lubuntu did
[10:00] <wontboot> xubuntu did :D
[10:01] <wontboot> everytime, as a precaution, I just have it format the relevant partition
[10:01] <wontboot> (/dev/sda1 for /,   /dev/sda4 for home is kept untouched of course)
[10:01] <m6locks> are there any other partitions?
[10:01] <wontboot> what is SGD ?
[10:01] <well_laid_lawn> where do you try to install grub?
[10:02] <wontboot> only those two partitions : /dev/sda1 for /, where I do the install,   and a /dev/sda4 with a /home directory which I want to preserve
[10:02] <wontboot> basically
[10:02] <wontboot> when I start up
[10:02] <well_laid_lawn> !enter
[10:02] <SaaMmY> http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ wontboot
[10:02] <wontboot> all I see is the bios screen, and then just an empty sceen with blinking cursor
[10:02] <wontboot> ok I'll check that out :)
[10:02] <well_laid_lawn> where do you try to install grub?
[10:03] <wontboot> i'm not familiar enough with grub, so I just went with the default option in the main ubuntu installer, that was "/dev/sda" simply
[10:03] <m6locks> hmm ok you could try booting without any splash or quiet mode so you could see what the system is doing
[10:04] <SaaMmY> I suggest you wontboot rescautex... that stuff is cool and userfriendly
[10:04] <m6locks> like first going to the grub menu and then like manually entering the boot commands or selecting the boot option you want
[10:04] <wontboot> SaaMmY I'll make sure to try that right  now :)
[10:04] <wontboot> m6locks : it doesn't even get that far :)
[10:04] <m6locks> you can get to the menu by holding shift key when it is booting
[10:04] <wontboot> stops right after the bios, not even mentioning any PBL
[10:05] <wontboot> I'll try supergrubdisk before bothering you guys any more :)
[10:06] <wontboot> oh one last question though
[10:06] <wontboot> as I only have access to this one workstation
[10:06] <wontboot> which is running on live CD right now
[10:06] <wontboot> is there an way to unmount the live CD in order to burn a CD ?
[10:06] <wontboot> (I know that sounds tricky...)
[10:07] <m6locks> you need to use the same usb-port for a drive?
[10:08] <wontboot> oh sorry you're right
[10:08] <SaaMmY> wontboot do you need to burn the SGD in a pendrive right?
[10:08] <wontboot> I forgot you can boot from USB these days
[10:08] <m6locks> aye, the usb stick boot is VERY convenient
[10:09] <wontboot> I just need to find one around this place... this is not my place, I'm doing this as a favour on an old PC
[10:09] <wontboot> I'll check if it can boot from pendrive :D
[10:09] <SaaMmY> yes with unetbootin is universally easy to burn iso into pendrive
[10:10] <SaaMmY> backup your pendrive... and download the standalone unetbootin for linux
[10:10] <SaaMmY> and then is userfriendly but if you have to ask ask it here
[10:11] <SaaMmY> wontboot unetbootin
[10:11] <wontboot> thanks :)
[10:11] <SaaMmY> u r welcome
[10:11] <wontboot> I tossing this house inside out to find a pendrive right now
[10:11] <wontboot> the owner told me "it's there on the desk"... over phone
[10:11] <wontboot> :)
[10:11] <m6locks> i my opinion it is a lot easier to just use dd to copy the iso
[10:11] <SaaMmY> lol
[10:12] <SaaMmY> are you stealing inside houses?
[10:13] <SaaMmY> :D
[10:14] <wontboot> yeah, making a mess is part of the service  :D
[10:15] <SaaMmY> secret agent
[10:15] <wontboot> I was asked to replace an old install with a recent xubuntu or lubuntu
[10:15] <SaaMmY> XD
[10:15] <wontboot> I said "nor prob, that'll take 1/2 hour, works staight"
[10:15] <wontboot> so I came hands in my pockets, no pendrive, no own laptop...
[10:15] <wontboot> and know I'm stuck
[10:15] <SaaMmY> I know this situation mate
[10:15] <SaaMmY> I did it too
[10:15] <wontboot> stupid me :D
[10:16] <SaaMmY> wontboot cd rom?
[10:16] <SaaMmY> virgin cd?
[10:16] <wontboot> yes, I have this ONE virgin cd i found here
[10:16] <SaaMmY> ok
[10:16] <wontboot> question was : since I'm running the PC from a live CD right now, is there anyway
[10:16] <wontboot> to burn a CD ?
[10:17] <SaaMmY> ? I don't understand
[10:17] <wontboot> (I live 100 km from here... shuttling home to fetch the proper kit is not an option :D)
[10:17] <wontboot> well I started Xfburn
[10:17] <wontboot> but the thing legitimately told me it can't access the CD drive, cause it's mounted
[10:18] <wontboot> and obviously I don't manage to unmount it
[10:18] <wontboot> so I wondered if there was any special trick to get the CD to run from RAM maybe
[10:18] <wontboot> and free the drive
[10:18] <SaaMmY> ok no
[10:18] <wontboot> ok
[10:18] <wontboot> :D
[10:18] <SaaMmY> unetbootin works on hardisk too
[10:18] <SaaMmY> try it but I don't have garantee
[10:19] <m6locks> you can unmount it by force, but the system might require reading some files from the cd when running software when burning
[10:21] <SaaMmY> if you have some free partition select by unetbootin that one and burn the iso in there
[10:21] <wontboot> I could crush the swap partition
[10:21] <SaaMmY> then reboot as unetbootin says
[10:21] <wontboot> that's the only free one
[10:21] <SaaMmY> right way wontboot
[10:21] <SaaMmY> use it
[10:21] <SaaMmY> make it as ext3
[10:21] <SaaMmY> or fat32
[10:22] <SaaMmY> you will restore it
[10:22] <wontboot> ok so let's recapitulate before I dig my hole even deeper
[10:23] <wontboot> I change it to ext3 and I just run unetbootin to create a bootable partition on my future-ex-swap
[10:23] <wontboot> ?
[10:23] <wontboot> or does Rescatux still fit into the picture somwhere ?
[10:23] <wontboot> cause that's starting to feel dodgy :D
[10:23] <SaaMmY> I don't know rescatux I 'd use grub2 but if it fits inside the swap size it's ok
[10:23] <wontboot> cause the other option is I take a tour from the neighbours (whom I don't know) and beg for a pendrive :D
[10:24] <wontboot> yep swap is 2 Go
[10:24] <SaaMmY> oh ok wontboot use it as you are doing
[10:24] <wontboot> ok guys
[10:25] <wontboot> first of all, I must really say a big big thank you for the advice
[10:25] <wontboot> I feel like a total leech right now
[10:25] <wontboot> coming over unprepared and stuff...
[10:25] <bazhang> everyone starts from there
[10:25] <wontboot> not having fettled with linux installs for four years (living on the dark side of OSX now...)
[10:25] <SaaMmY> did you write everything? things to do list XD?
[10:25] <wontboot> and the second thing I have to say is :
[10:25] <wontboot> "Banzai" !!!
[10:26] <SaaMmY> i'd say KAMIKAZEEEEEEEEEEEE
[10:26] <SaaMmY> no but seriously Good Luck mate
[10:28] <wontboot> thanks
[10:28] <wontboot> I'll try the safe option first
[10:28] <wontboot> beg access to a machine in the neighborhod
[10:28] <wontboot> in if I get shot at with big salt
[10:28] <wontboot> then I'll try that swap crushing craze
[10:28] <wontboot> thanks a lot guys
[10:28] <wontboot> I think we'll have to loose radio contact for now :)
[10:29] <wontboot> but I'll make sure I return the favour :)
[10:29] <SaaMmY> ok gl wontboot
[10:29] <wontboot> ;)
[11:01] <Kokonut> Alguno que hable español???
[11:02] <Kokonut> install Compiz??
[11:03] <bazhang> !ccsm
[11:13] <SaaMmY> Kokonut !espanol
[11:13] <SaaMmY> !espanol | Kokonut
[13:00] <focalt> yo guys
[13:01] <focalt> is the prprietary ati driver for xubuntu 10.4 the best option?
[13:01] <focalt> like... I get a reeeally bad looking boot loader
[13:08] <focalt> anyone?
[13:08] <focalt> also I would like to understand why xubuntu lucid has pulseaudio?
[13:08] <focalt> what for?
[13:19] <oregano4> Guten Tach auch
[14:57] <focalt> yo
[14:57] <focalt> anybody can help»
[14:57] <focalt> anybody can help?
[14:59] <focalt> i'm trying to install an audio card driver, but when I type 'make'
[14:59] <focalt> http://pastebin.com/hE9Z5Zhq > this happens...
[15:00] <GridCube> mmm lets see
[15:00] <GridCube> you dont have /lib/modules/2.6.32-33-generic/build
[15:01] <GridCube> its says so right there
[15:01] <GridCube> if im not mistaken you need to install build-essentials
[15:02] <focalt> hum
[15:02] <focalt> build-essential is already the newest version.7
[15:03] <GridCube> ok
[15:03] <GridCube> then you need...
[15:05] <GridCube> linux-headers-2.6.32-33-generic
[15:06] <focalt> hoe do I do that
[15:06] <focalt> how* (sorry i'm a bit new to linux)
[15:06] <GridCube> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.32-33-generic
[15:07] <focalt> thanks :)
[15:07] <GridCube> :) hope it solves your problems
[15:07] <GridCube> i
[15:07] <GridCube> if not come back and we will try something else
[15:07] <focalt> i'll report in a while...
[15:10] <focalt> working!
[15:10] <focalt> thanks a lot man :D
[15:12] <GridCube> focalt, you are welcome :) good luck
[15:26] <focalt> yo again
[15:26] <focalt> other thing...
[15:26] <focalt> I own a laptop with an ati graphics card
[15:26] <focalt> the best option is to install the proprietary driver?
[15:26] <focalt> cause it makes boot loader ugly...
[15:27] <focalt> it makes me doubt on its performance
[15:31] <focalt> GridCube, any suggestions?
[15:35] <GridCube> mmh
[15:36] <GridCube> never used ati
[15:36] <GridCube> so i don't know about that
[15:36] <GridCube> you could google arround and see peoples opinion
[15:36] <GridCube> s
[15:37] <GridCube> >The open source driver is currently not on par with the proprietary driver in terms of 3D performance on newer cards or reliable TV-out support. It does, however, offer better dual-head support, excellent 2D acceleration, and provides sufficient 3D acceleration for OpenGL-accelerated window managers, such as Compiz or KWin.
[15:38] <GridCube> so you choose
[15:42] <focalt> how can I make bootloader picture of xubuntu to disapear?
[15:44] <GridCube> !plymouth
[17:37] <knobydobs> hia having a problem with minecraft
[17:37] <knobydobs> knobydobs@knobydobs-ASM1610-VTM261:~$ java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[17:37] <knobydobs> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/LauncherFrame
[17:37] <knobydobs> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[17:37] <knobydobs> 	at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:217)
[17:37] <knobydobs> 	at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
[17:37] <knobydobs> 	at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:205)
[17:37] <knobydobs> 	at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:321)
[17:37] <knobydobs> 	at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:294)
[17:37] <knobydobs> 	at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:266)
[17:37] <knobydobs> Could not find the main class: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame. Program will exit.
[17:38] <Sysi> you need sun-java instead of icedtea
[17:38] <Sysi> !java
[17:38] <Sysi> in future, if you got more than four lines, use paste.ubuntu.com
[17:39] <knobydobs> sysi ok thankyou
[17:39] <knobydobs> ubottu thankyou aswell
[17:50] <knobydobs> do i have to remove openjdk aswell?
[18:03] <focalt> hey
[18:03] <focalt> i dunno what happened
[18:03] <focalt> but
[18:03] <focalt> http://paste.pocoo.org/?reply_to=482267
[18:04] <focalt> and I can't install anything via synaptic...
[18:04] <focalt> can someone help?
[18:07] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu community meeting in #xubuntu-devel in 4 hours. Everyone is invited to attend. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[18:11] <GridCube> focalt, how come you can't install from synaptic
[18:12] <focalt> GridCube, I don't know, it gives me that error...
[18:12] <focalt> and it began with trying to unisntall and install a lot of stuff
[18:12] <GridCube> synaptic gives you a python error?
[18:13] <focalt> maybe I screwed things up
[18:13] <GridCube> can you run it from a terminal, and grab the dumped log, and then post it to a pastebin?
[18:14] <focalt> for example
[18:14] <focalt> I try to install idjc
[18:14] <focalt> and it say this (without installing)
[18:14] <focalt> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/482283/
[18:15] <focalt> well atually it installs...
[18:15] <focalt> but then I can't run the app
[18:15] <charlie-tca> in a terminal, type     sudo apt-get update     and hit enter
[18:15] <charlie-tca> Then type     sudo apt-get dist-upgrade      and hit enter
[18:15] <charlie-tca> see what it says
[18:16] <charlie-tca> it won't run because it did not completely install
[18:16] <focalt> charlie-tca, but it doesn't appear as broken
[18:17] <charlie-tca> according to your paste it does
[18:17] <focalt> on synaptic I mean
[18:17] <focalt> anyway i'll paste the output of the commands you gave me
[18:18] <focalt> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/482284/
[18:20] <charlie-tca> python-twisted is broken, bad.
[18:21] <charlie-tca> try removing it, restarting, and then installing it again.
[18:22] <focalt> restarting system?
[18:22] <focalt> or synaptic?
[18:22] <charlie-tca> I would use      sudo apt-get remove idjc python-twisted-web python-twisted-lore python-twisted-conch python-twisted
[18:22] <charlie-tca> all on one line in terminal
[18:22] <charlie-tca> close synaptic, do it in terminal.
[18:22] <focalt> ok
[18:22] <focalt> then reboot?
[18:22] <charlie-tca> yes
[18:23] <charlie-tca> then try reinstalling them through the terminal, using    sudo apt-get install
[18:23] <charlie-tca> and the same list of files
[18:23] <focalt> ok
[18:23] <charlie-tca> Then it should tell you what to do to fix it
[18:23] <focalt> uninstalled
[18:23] <focalt> rebooting
[18:26] <focalt> ok
[18:26] <focalt> now
[18:26] <focalt> reinstall
[18:27] <focalt> hum...
[18:27] <focalt> charlie-tca, http://pastebin.com/AtPshRix
[18:33] <charlie-tca> It won't work. You should remove those again,.
[18:33] <charlie-tca> bug 627654
[18:34] <charlie-tca> and about 5 others with no comments yet.
[18:34] <focalt> hum...
[18:35] <focalt> so I just uninstall?
[18:35] <charlie-tca> yup
[18:35] <charlie-tca> maybe this one is better for the install, not an upgrade, but it is the same issue:
[18:35] <charlie-tca> bug 814933
[18:36] <focalt> oh god...
[18:37] <focalt> http://pastebin.com/7uHMUJee
[18:38] <focalt> I guess i'll just reinstall xubuntu for now
[18:38] <focalt> :\
[18:38] <charlie-tca> looking
[18:39] <charlie-tca> You could try run in a terminal
[18:39] <charlie-tca> sudo apt-get clean
[18:39] <charlie-tca> then try removing again
[18:40] <focalt> same error
[18:40] <charlie-tca> It is not necessary to reinstall for this, but it might take another reboot to let you finish the removals
[18:40] <focalt> i'll brb
[18:40] <focalt> 5mins
[19:04] <focalt> charlie-tca, back
[19:05] <focalt> rebooted and still can't remove them
[19:10] <focalt> charlie-tca, I guess it's all ok now
[19:10] <focalt> thanks :)
[19:11] <focalt> charlie-tca, found whar program required those
[19:11] <focalt> Ardour
[20:44] <Algyz> Hi, why 11.04 is not waking up from screensaver and I have to restart? :|
[20:45] <charlie-tca> Tried a different screensaver?
[20:45] <Algyz> random is on
[20:46] <charlie-tca> Then try one at a time and see which one is causing the issue.
[20:46] <Algyz> the one with kernel number is appearing :)
[20:47] <charlie-tca> Then try one at a time and see which one is causing the issue.
[20:49] <knobydobs> hia again - when i start minecraft.jar i get the login screen then wheni log in it dissappears and i am left to start all over again
[20:53] <GridCube> knobydobs, have you tried asking #minecraft ?
[20:53] <GridCube> they might know how to help you better
[20:54] <knobydobs> GridCube thanx will do
[21:07] <madbovine> hey guys quick question...does xubuntu have dropbox integration?
[21:11] <madbovine> any help with that?
[21:11] <charlie-tca> It has it through xfce, but not through the repositories
[21:12] <charlie-tca> If you install using dropbox-nautilus, it installs nautilus
[21:12] <madbovine> so no way to do it through thunar?
[21:12] <charlie-tca> I installed it using the information in http://antrix.net/posts/2008/dropbox-without-gnome/ and it worked fine with Thunar
[21:14] <madbovine> hmm...ok
[21:15] <focalt> madbovine, I alway used dropbox with thunar
[21:15] <focalt> and I installed nautilus one
[21:15] <focalt> I dunno what that means, but alway worked for me
[21:15] <madbovine> nautilus one?
[21:15] <madbovine> oh nevermind
[21:16] <focalt> dropbox-nautilus
[21:16] <madbovine> and it worked with thunar without any extra work?
[21:16] <focalt> yes
[21:16] <madbovine> interesting
[21:16] <madbovine> does it display in the systray?
[21:16] <focalt> and on a karmic install
[21:16] <focalt> yes
[21:17] <madbovine> I wonder if it would keep working if you then uninstalled nautilus
[21:17] <focalt> yeah... dunno
[21:17] <focalt> but it installed nautilus?
[21:17] <madbovine> may not wanna try
[21:17] <madbovine> thanks guys...I think i can now give xubuntu a try
[21:17] <focalt> I didn't noticed
[21:34] <Algyz> how to know name of sound device? It is not /dev/dsp. I just want to know name of microphone.
[21:37] <knobydobs> how to get fglrx to work with xubuntu
[21:37] <charlie-tca> Algyz: open a terminal and type     sudo lspci, search it for microphone
[21:37] <charlie-tca> or maybe just mic
[21:38] <Algyz> there is strange app, called xvidcap  :)
[21:38] <charlie-tca> knobydobs: I have to wait for someone else on that
[21:38] <charlie-tca> !info xvidcap
[21:43] <knobydobs> http://pastebin.com/t1wUhG7t
[21:46] <charlie-tca> knobydobs: did you do what it said?
[21:46] <charlie-tca> System -> Additional Drivers should have the ati driver to install
[21:47] <charlie-tca> If it is already installed, try running     aticonfig      in a terminal?
[21:47] <hombre> hello
[21:47] <knobydobs> nothing in aditional drivers and aticonfig not recognising card
[21:48] <hombre> any wizzard in here to help me with some minor issue xubuntu related
[21:48] <charlie-tca> Then catalyst was correct
[21:48] <hombre> i wait until someone will be available
[21:48] <charlie-tca> !details | hombre
[21:49] <hombre> ok
[21:49] <charlie-tca> No one has ever given an answer without a question
[21:49] <charlie-tca> knobydobs: If the card isn't recognized, catalyst can't work
[21:49] <hombre> just installed xubuntu dual boot with win xp and it was ok until i did updates because after restart and login and enter password it wont go to desktop
[21:50] <hombre> it comes back to login screen asking for login and passwd
[21:50] <hombre> i added new user same problem
[21:50] <charlie-tca> Change anything?
[21:50] <hombre> i did updates lots o fthem
[21:50] <hombre> them
[21:51] <hombre> it was a fine installation i was almost proud
[21:51] <charlie-tca> Do you get a grub menu when booting?
[21:51] <hombre> good graphics nice speed
[21:51] <hombre> yes
[21:51] <charlie-tca> go to recovery mode, try fix broken packages, clean, then restart and see if it will login
[21:51] <hombre> i have an older version which is xubuntu generic 622... and a newer one which is xubuntu generic 622. 11
[21:51] <knobydobs> ok but its in there and giving me my graphics
[21:52] <charlie-tca> hombre: I don't know what those numbers are
[21:52] <hombre> oh, you mean choose from the menu to fix those packages
[21:52] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu versions are different than that
[21:52] <charlie-tca> yup
[21:52] <hombre> ok, that i didnt do that, i ll try
[21:53] <charlie-tca> knobydobs: A video driver is installed, but apparently, not the ati hardware driver that catalyst wants
[21:53] <hombre> something elese, when i boot into safe mode, i can get to the command line ok but i have no idea how to start desktop with sudo and  so
[21:54] <hombre> i mean this is my first linux install ever
[21:54] <hombre> command line for getting desktop on
[21:54] <knobydobs> how do i remove the open source drivers
[21:55] <charlie-tca> !ati
[21:55] <hombre> ok, charlie-tca, thanks, and i come back with the beer if all goes ok, thanks again and all the best
[21:55] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[21:56] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu community meeting in #xubuntu-devel in 4 Minutes. Everyone is invited to attend. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[21:56] <knobydobs> i did !ati and aticonfig came up saying there were no supported adapters
[22:01] <focalt> /usr/lib/pd-extended/bin/pd-gui: error while loading shared libraries: libtk8.5.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[22:01] <focalt> what to do?
[22:12] <knobydobs> how to get catalyst to recognise my gpu?
[22:47] <focalt> hey guys
[22:48] <focalt> I have 2 separated harddisks
[22:48] <focalt> i'm using sdb
[22:48] <focalt> and I want to access my sda hd
[22:48] <focalt> how do I do that?
[23:14] <charlie-tca> is sda a windows drive?
[23:16] <m6locks> it's whatever is you hard drive partitioned with
[23:16] <m6locks> +r
[23:17] <knome> m6locks, naturally, but if it's a windows drive, the way to get it to use is different. that's why charlie-tca asked.
[23:18] <GridCube> my sisters computer, in wich i installed xubuntu, doesnt allow her to log in
[23:18] <charlie-tca> Why not?
[23:18] <charlie-tca> what does it do?
[23:18] <knome> GridCube, did she was her hands? xubuntu wants its users to be clean. ;)
[23:18] <GridCube> it started to ask her for a password at loging
[23:18] <GridCube> but it doesnt accept it
[23:18] <charlie-tca> That's a good sign, normally then it works
[23:18] <GridCube> and it was preconfigured to login
[23:19] <charlie-tca> It doesn't accept it at all, just gives "invalid password?
[23:19] <GridCube> i doenst accept it
[23:19] <GridCube> i could guide her to log in from tty1
[23:19] <GridCube> but for somereason her desktop is on tt8
[23:19] <GridCube> tty8
[23:20] <charlie-tca> It should be giving a message on the login screen "invalid password" if it doesn't accept it. If it just flashes back to login, that's a different issue
[23:20] <GridCube> yes that last one
[23:20] <GridCube> she has 11.04
[23:20] <charlie-tca> That's harder
[23:20] <GridCube> :(
[23:20] <charlie-tca> If she installed the wildbush theme, you have to remove ~/.cache and ~/.config and restart
[23:21] <GridCube> she did nothing of that
[23:21] <GridCube> it started closing her chromium windows when she opened them
[23:21] <charlie-tca> If she somehow managed to turn ~/.ICEauthority to a root file, just use chown to make it her user name again
[23:22] <charlie-tca> chromium I don't enough about to help
[23:22] <GridCube> she didn't even knew the password for root
[23:22] <charlie-tca> And autologin no longer works?
[23:22] <GridCube> no
[23:22] <charlie-tca> but she can log in through the tty?
[23:22] <GridCube> i told her how
[23:22] <charlie-tca> Did it work?
[23:22] <GridCube> by phone
[23:22] <GridCube> yes
[23:22] <charlie-tca> Then she needs to turn off autologin
[23:23] <GridCube> mmm
[23:23] <GridCube> how?
[23:23] <charlie-tca> log in to the tty, cd /etc/gdm
[23:23] <charlie-tca> sudo nano gdm.custom
[23:23] <GridCube> oh boy
[23:23] <charlie-tca> remove or comment the line to autologin, save, restart
[23:23] <charlie-tca> heh
[23:23] <charlie-tca> or just create a new user, maybe
[23:24] <charlie-tca> But that is hard too from the tty
[23:24] <GridCube> :/ so complicated
[23:24] <knome> charlie-tca, adduser username? :P
[23:24] <charlie-tca> You don't have ability to ssh in and fix it?
[23:24] <GridCube> why is that NOT ONE SINGLE time i wan't to install xubuntu to someone and I say, it will be better, NOT ONE SINGLE TIME im correct
[23:25] <GridCube> there is always a huge issue like this
[23:25] <GridCube> im pretty upset
[23:25] <charlie-tca> because you did not set up ssh to fix things like this
[23:25] <knome> lol
[23:25] <knome> maybe tell her to install openssh-sercer
[23:25] <knome> *server
[23:25] <knome> that might be easier
[23:25] <charlie-tca> knome: she doesn't even have root password
[23:25] <GridCube> i can tell her that
[23:25] <knome> ;)
[23:25] <GridCube> but the problem is what IP does she has?
[23:26] <charlie-tca> GridCube: did you make her user an admin user?
[23:26] <GridCube> how can i tell?
[23:26] <charlie-tca> have her log in to the tty and do ifconfig
[23:26] <GridCube> it was just a plain install
[23:26] <charlie-tca> she can give you the ip from the top line
[23:26] <charlie-tca> well, from this:     inet addr:192.168.51.3
[23:27] <knome> wait, ifconfig doesn't necessarily show you the WAN ip
[23:27] <knome> that's useless. that's your local network :)
[23:27] <charlie-tca> OMG, it's wireless, too?
[23:27] <GridCube> ifconfig doesnt do that
[23:27] <charlie-tca> That's a local network because I assign all my own IP addresses here
[23:27] <GridCube> its wireless but she is corded
[23:27] <charlie-tca> If it is corded, it will show it
[23:27] <GridCube> it will not
[23:27] <charlie-tca> it will be a different number, though
[23:28] <GridCube> i just tried on mine
[23:28] <GridCube> it doesnt show internet adress just lan
[23:28] <knome> no, it doesn't show WAN ip even on corded, unless you specified the WAN ip to your ip settings
[23:28] <GridCube> i need her to log into her router
[23:29] <GridCube> or maybe use links to go to whatsmyip.com or somethinglike that
[23:29] <knome> GridCube, lynx --dump http://whatismyip.org/
[23:29] <knome> GridCube, that outputs it to the shell
[23:29] <knome> (the external ip)
[23:29] <knome> does the router allow ssh ports? :P
[23:29] <charlie-tca> Oh, good one.
[23:30] <charlie-tca> We're going to make the poor guy scream...
[23:30] <GridCube> well
[23:30] <charlie-tca> I am backing away, you try and help, knome, please.
[23:30] <knome> as much as i can
[23:31] <charlie-tca> less confusing with one person
[23:31] <knome> i'm trying to do some commercial work in the side :|
[23:31] <charlie-tca> :)
[23:37] <GridCube> SHE DOESNT HAVS SSH-SERVER ON THE APT LIST
[23:38] <knome> GridCube, openssh-server
[23:38] <knome> GridCube, anc cut down the volume by a few dB's thanks ;)
[23:39] <GridCube> yes sorry
[23:40] <GridCube> thank you
[23:40] <knome> np
[23:45] <GridCube> i cant log in
[23:46] <GridCube> i cant log in :(
[23:46] <GridCube> time out
[23:46] <knome> are ssh port (22) allowed from router?
[23:46] <GridCube> i don't think
[23:46] <knome> s/are/is/
[23:46] <knome> then you need to allow that, after which you should be able to log in
[23:47] <GridCube> yeah she wont
[23:48] <GridCube> :(
[23:48] <GridCube> i hate this
[23:48] <GridCube> i try to make things better and it just messes things up
[23:51] <madnick> she needs to create a user?
[23:52] <charlie-tca> GridCube: just have her create a new user, then
[23:52] <GridCube> i don't know if that will fix things
[23:53] <GridCube> will have her try
[23:53] <knome> or tell her to remove ~/.cache, if that'd help
[23:54] <GridCube> she quited
[23:54] <GridCube> she want's me to check he computer myself
[23:54] <GridCube> :/
[23:55] <charlie-tca> How did she learn windows?
[23:55] <charlie-tca> It wasn't something that isn't learned
[23:55] <GridCube> yes, yes, but thats what it is