[02:53] What's the easiest way to automatically login a user? [03:12] zilly, ? [03:12] how so? [03:13] you mean to autologin a session? [03:13] GridCube, I don't think. I don't want a GDM to display. I want to user to be logged in without having to enter a password or anything. [03:13] :) [03:13] its easy [03:14] GridCube, mind letting me in on the secret? =] [03:14] :P [03:14] go to >System >Login screen (sp?) and set it up to autlogin [03:14] (sorry i have my setup in spañish) [03:15] GridCube, I don't have a login screen under system. [03:15] you can launch the aplication whit >alt-F2 >gdm-setup >run [03:16] sorry i can't remember the correct names in english [03:16] (or if they moved it of place on 11.04) [03:17] but whit the last thing i gave you, you should be able to configure it to autologin [03:17] !info gdmsetup [03:17] Package gdmsetup does not exist in natty [03:17] :( [03:20] it does exist zilly is gdmsetup [03:20] whit no - [03:20] GridCube, do you have to have gdm installed? [03:20] i just tried it [03:20] yes [03:20] zilly, if you don't a lot of things will broke [03:21] also until 11.04 gdm is part of xubuntu, whitout it we can not provide you support :( [03:21] because its part of xubuntu [03:21] starting whit 11.10 we will ship lightdm [03:22] * GridCube says "we" as he is part of the team XD [03:22] as if^ [03:28] well you offer support enough, so surely a part of the team (community) [03:30] bazhang: He is, he does ISO testing too [03:30] Making a slick new interface for it even [03:30] Unit193, indeed, to counter his "as if" === yakeb is now known as yakeb-away === yakeb-away is now known as yakeb === yakeb is now known as yakeb-sorryforfl === yakeb-sorryforfl is now known as yakeb-flooder === yakeb-flooder is now known as yakeb === Evixion` is now known as Evixion [07:34] n [08:42] Hi, I'm a newbie and I try to use Vino on lastest stable Xubuntu. Can't find xfce4-autostart-editor to autostart it... Anyone can help me ? [09:31] Buongiorno [09:31] qualcuno può aiutarmi per l'istallazione di xubuntu? [09:32] !it | ALECV [09:32] ALECV: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [09:32] I hope that's italian... :) [09:32] [11:31] == #xubuntu-it Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited [09:33] i not can join, only invite :) [09:33] that's not friendly [09:34] ALECV: try /join #ubuntu-it [09:34] idem [09:38] ALECV: I don't know what idem means [09:39] gives me the same error, by invitation only (google translatre) [09:40] ALECV: I just joined #ubuntu-it with no problem - are you registered on freenode? [09:40] !register [09:40] Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode [09:42] thx well_laid_lawn [09:43] np :) [09:57] morning everyone [09:58] may I ask something ? [09:58] been fighting to install xubuntu or lubuntu for over 5 hours now [09:59] more that my first slackware in 1995... [09:59] is there any web page I missed that would cover booting problems ? [09:59] morning [09:59] the live CD boots all-right [09:59] but I can't get the system to boot then from HD [09:59] I eventually replaced the boot loader with LILO [10:00] did the installer copy all the files to your HD succesfully? [10:00] which gets the thing to start up but eventually bumps into weird HD problems I'd never seen before, and drops me into some sort of failsafe command-line mode [10:00] I would try with SUPERGRUBDISK wontboot [10:00] from which I only have read-only access [10:00] SGD [10:00] yes it did [10:00] lubuntu did [10:00] xubuntu did :D [10:01] everytime, as a precaution, I just have it format the relevant partition [10:01] (/dev/sda1 for /, /dev/sda4 for home is kept untouched of course) [10:01] are there any other partitions? [10:01] what is SGD ? [10:01] where do you try to install grub? [10:02] only those two partitions : /dev/sda1 for /, where I do the install, and a /dev/sda4 with a /home directory which I want to preserve [10:02] basically [10:02] when I start up [10:02] !enter [10:02] http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ wontboot [10:02] Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [10:02] all I see is the bios screen, and then just an empty sceen with blinking cursor [10:02] ok I'll check that out :) [10:02] where do you try to install grub? [10:03] i'm not familiar enough with grub, so I just went with the default option in the main ubuntu installer, that was "/dev/sda" simply [10:03] hmm ok you could try booting without any splash or quiet mode so you could see what the system is doing [10:04] I suggest you wontboot rescautex... that stuff is cool and userfriendly [10:04] like first going to the grub menu and then like manually entering the boot commands or selecting the boot option you want [10:04] SaaMmY I'll make sure to try that right now :) [10:04] m6locks : it doesn't even get that far :) [10:04] you can get to the menu by holding shift key when it is booting [10:04] stops right after the bios, not even mentioning any PBL [10:05] I'll try supergrubdisk before bothering you guys any more :) [10:06] oh one last question though [10:06] as I only have access to this one workstation [10:06] which is running on live CD right now [10:06] is there an way to unmount the live CD in order to burn a CD ? [10:06] (I know that sounds tricky...) [10:07] you need to use the same usb-port for a drive? [10:08] oh sorry you're right [10:08] wontboot do you need to burn the SGD in a pendrive right? [10:08] I forgot you can boot from USB these days [10:08] aye, the usb stick boot is VERY convenient [10:09] I just need to find one around this place... this is not my place, I'm doing this as a favour on an old PC [10:09] I'll check if it can boot from pendrive :D [10:09] yes with unetbootin is universally easy to burn iso into pendrive [10:10] backup your pendrive... and download the standalone unetbootin for linux [10:10] and then is userfriendly but if you have to ask ask it here [10:11] wontboot unetbootin [10:11] thanks :) [10:11] u r welcome [10:11] I tossing this house inside out to find a pendrive right now [10:11] the owner told me "it's there on the desk"... over phone [10:11] :) [10:11] i my opinion it is a lot easier to just use dd to copy the iso [10:11] lol [10:12] are you stealing inside houses? [10:13] :D [10:14] yeah, making a mess is part of the service :D [10:15] secret agent [10:15] I was asked to replace an old install with a recent xubuntu or lubuntu [10:15] XD [10:15] I said "nor prob, that'll take 1/2 hour, works staight" [10:15] so I came hands in my pockets, no pendrive, no own laptop... [10:15] and know I'm stuck [10:15] I know this situation mate [10:15] I did it too [10:15] stupid me :D [10:16] wontboot cd rom? [10:16] virgin cd? [10:16] yes, I have this ONE virgin cd i found here [10:16] ok [10:16] question was : since I'm running the PC from a live CD right now, is there anyway [10:16] to burn a CD ? [10:17] ? I don't understand [10:17] (I live 100 km from here... shuttling home to fetch the proper kit is not an option :D) [10:17] well I started Xfburn [10:17] but the thing legitimately told me it can't access the CD drive, cause it's mounted [10:18] and obviously I don't manage to unmount it [10:18] so I wondered if there was any special trick to get the CD to run from RAM maybe [10:18] and free the drive [10:18] ok no [10:18] ok [10:18] :D [10:18] unetbootin works on hardisk too [10:18] try it but I don't have garantee [10:19] you can unmount it by force, but the system might require reading some files from the cd when running software when burning [10:21] if you have some free partition select by unetbootin that one and burn the iso in there [10:21] I could crush the swap partition [10:21] then reboot as unetbootin says [10:21] that's the only free one [10:21] right way wontboot [10:21] use it [10:21] make it as ext3 [10:21] or fat32 [10:22] you will restore it [10:22] ok so let's recapitulate before I dig my hole even deeper [10:23] I change it to ext3 and I just run unetbootin to create a bootable partition on my future-ex-swap [10:23] ? [10:23] or does Rescatux still fit into the picture somwhere ? [10:23] cause that's starting to feel dodgy :D [10:23] I don't know rescatux I 'd use grub2 but if it fits inside the swap size it's ok [10:23] cause the other option is I take a tour from the neighbours (whom I don't know) and beg for a pendrive :D [10:24] yep swap is 2 Go [10:24] oh ok wontboot use it as you are doing [10:24] ok guys [10:25] first of all, I must really say a big big thank you for the advice [10:25] I feel like a total leech right now [10:25] coming over unprepared and stuff... [10:25] everyone starts from there [10:25] not having fettled with linux installs for four years (living on the dark side of OSX now...) [10:25] did you write everything? things to do list XD? [10:25] and the second thing I have to say is : [10:25] "Banzai" !!! [10:26] i'd say KAMIKAZEEEEEEEEEEEE [10:26] no but seriously Good Luck mate [10:28] thanks [10:28] I'll try the safe option first [10:28] beg access to a machine in the neighborhod [10:28] in if I get shot at with big salt [10:28] then I'll try that swap crushing craze [10:28] thanks a lot guys [10:28] I think we'll have to loose radio contact for now :) [10:29] but I'll make sure I return the favour :) [10:29] ok gl wontboot [10:29] ;) [11:01] Alguno que hable español??? [11:02] install Compiz?? [11:03] !ccsm [11:03] To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz [11:13] Kokonut !espanol [11:13] !espanol | Kokonut [11:13] Kokonut: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #xubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [13:00] yo guys [13:01] is the prprietary ati driver for xubuntu 10.4 the best option? [13:01] like... I get a reeeally bad looking boot loader [13:08] anyone? [13:08] also I would like to understand why xubuntu lucid has pulseaudio? [13:08] what for? [13:19] Guten Tach auch [14:57] yo [14:57] anybody can help» [14:57] anybody can help? [14:59] i'm trying to install an audio card driver, but when I type 'make' [14:59] http://pastebin.com/hE9Z5Zhq > this happens... [15:00] mmm lets see [15:00] you dont have /lib/modules/2.6.32-33-generic/build [15:01] its says so right there [15:01] if im not mistaken you need to install build-essentials [15:02] hum [15:02] build-essential is already the newest version.7 [15:03] ok [15:03] then you need... [15:05] linux-headers-2.6.32-33-generic [15:06] hoe do I do that [15:06] how* (sorry i'm a bit new to linux) [15:06] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.32-33-generic [15:07] thanks :) [15:07] :) hope it solves your problems [15:07] i [15:07] if not come back and we will try something else [15:07] i'll report in a while... [15:10] working! [15:10] thanks a lot man :D [15:12] focalt, you are welcome :) good luck [15:26] yo again [15:26] other thing... [15:26] I own a laptop with an ati graphics card [15:26] the best option is to install the proprietary driver? [15:26] cause it makes boot loader ugly... [15:27] it makes me doubt on its performance [15:31] GridCube, any suggestions? [15:35] mmh [15:36] never used ati [15:36] so i don't know about that [15:36] you could google arround and see peoples opinion [15:36] s [15:37] >The open source driver is currently not on par with the proprietary driver in terms of 3D performance on newer cards or reliable TV-out support. It does, however, offer better dual-head support, excellent 2D acceleration, and provides sufficient 3D acceleration for OpenGL-accelerated window managers, such as Compiz or KWin. [15:38] so you choose [15:42] how can I make bootloader picture of xubuntu to disapear? [15:44] !plymouth [15:44] Plymouth manages the Ubuntu boot process (before the root filesystem is mounted) and also provides a graphical boot animation. To change your Plymouth theme use « sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth && sudo update-initramfs -u » [17:37] hia having a problem with minecraft [17:37] knobydobs@knobydobs-ASM1610-VTM261:~$ java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame [17:37] Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/LauncherFrame [17:37] Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame [17:37] at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:217) [17:37] at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) [17:37] at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:205) [17:37] at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:321) [17:37] at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:294) [17:37] at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:266) [17:37] Could not find the main class: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame. Program will exit. [17:38] you need sun-java instead of icedtea [17:38] !java [17:38] To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://goo.gl/zwOip - For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases. [17:38] in future, if you got more than four lines, use paste.ubuntu.com [17:39] sysi ok thankyou [17:39] ubottu thankyou aswell [17:50] do i have to remove openjdk aswell? [18:03] hey [18:03] i dunno what happened [18:03] but [18:03] http://paste.pocoo.org/?reply_to=482267 [18:04] and I can't install anything via synaptic... [18:04] can someone help? [18:07] Xubuntu community meeting in #xubuntu-devel in 4 hours. Everyone is invited to attend. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings [18:11] focalt, how come you can't install from synaptic [18:12] GridCube, I don't know, it gives me that error... [18:12] and it began with trying to unisntall and install a lot of stuff [18:12] synaptic gives you a python error? [18:13] maybe I screwed things up [18:13] can you run it from a terminal, and grab the dumped log, and then post it to a pastebin? [18:14] for example [18:14] I try to install idjc [18:14] and it say this (without installing) [18:14] http://paste.pocoo.org/show/482283/ [18:15] well atually it installs... [18:15] but then I can't run the app [18:15] in a terminal, type sudo apt-get update and hit enter [18:15] Then type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and hit enter [18:15] see what it says [18:16] it won't run because it did not completely install [18:16] charlie-tca, but it doesn't appear as broken [18:17] according to your paste it does [18:17] on synaptic I mean [18:17] anyway i'll paste the output of the commands you gave me [18:18] http://paste.pocoo.org/show/482284/ [18:20] python-twisted is broken, bad. [18:21] try removing it, restarting, and then installing it again. [18:22] restarting system? [18:22] or synaptic? [18:22] I would use sudo apt-get remove idjc python-twisted-web python-twisted-lore python-twisted-conch python-twisted [18:22] all on one line in terminal [18:22] close synaptic, do it in terminal. [18:22] ok [18:22] then reboot? [18:22] yes [18:23] then try reinstalling them through the terminal, using sudo apt-get install [18:23] and the same list of files [18:23] ok [18:23] Then it should tell you what to do to fix it [18:23] uninstalled [18:23] rebooting [18:26] ok [18:26] now [18:26] reinstall [18:27] hum... [18:27] charlie-tca, http://pastebin.com/AtPshRix [18:33] It won't work. You should remove those again,. [18:33] bug 627654 [18:33] Launchpad bug 627654 in twisted (Ubuntu) "package python-twisted-core 10.0.0-2ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/627654 [18:34] and about 5 others with no comments yet. [18:34] hum... [18:35] so I just uninstall? [18:35] yup [18:35] maybe this one is better for the install, not an upgrade, but it is the same issue: [18:35] bug 814933 [18:35] Launchpad bug 814933 in twisted (Ubuntu) "package python-twisted-core 10.0.0-2ubuntu2 [modified: usr/share/pyshared/twisted/python/dxprofile.py] failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/814933 [18:36] oh god... [18:37] http://pastebin.com/7uHMUJee [18:38] I guess i'll just reinstall xubuntu for now [18:38] :\ [18:38] looking [18:39] You could try run in a terminal [18:39] sudo apt-get clean [18:39] then try removing again [18:40] same error [18:40] It is not necessary to reinstall for this, but it might take another reboot to let you finish the removals [18:40] i'll brb [18:40] 5mins [19:04] charlie-tca, back [19:05] rebooted and still can't remove them [19:10] charlie-tca, I guess it's all ok now [19:10] thanks :) [19:11] charlie-tca, found whar program required those [19:11] Ardour [20:44] Hi, why 11.04 is not waking up from screensaver and I have to restart? :| [20:45] Tried a different screensaver? [20:45] random is on [20:46] Then try one at a time and see which one is causing the issue. [20:46] the one with kernel number is appearing :) [20:47] Then try one at a time and see which one is causing the issue. [20:49] hia again - when i start minecraft.jar i get the login screen then wheni log in it dissappears and i am left to start all over again [20:53] knobydobs, have you tried asking #minecraft ? [20:53] they might know how to help you better [20:54] GridCube thanx will do [21:07] hey guys quick question...does xubuntu have dropbox integration? [21:11] any help with that? [21:11] It has it through xfce, but not through the repositories [21:12] If you install using dropbox-nautilus, it installs nautilus [21:12] so no way to do it through thunar? [21:12] I installed it using the information in http://antrix.net/posts/2008/dropbox-without-gnome/ and it worked fine with Thunar [21:14] hmm...ok [21:15] madbovine, I alway used dropbox with thunar [21:15] and I installed nautilus one [21:15] I dunno what that means, but alway worked for me [21:15] nautilus one? [21:15] oh nevermind [21:16] dropbox-nautilus [21:16] and it worked with thunar without any extra work? [21:16] yes [21:16] interesting [21:16] does it display in the systray? [21:16] and on a karmic install [21:16] yes [21:17] I wonder if it would keep working if you then uninstalled nautilus [21:17] yeah... dunno [21:17] but it installed nautilus? [21:17] may not wanna try [21:17] thanks guys...I think i can now give xubuntu a try [21:17] I didn't noticed [21:34] how to know name of sound device? It is not /dev/dsp. I just want to know name of microphone. [21:37] how to get fglrx to work with xubuntu [21:37] Algyz: open a terminal and type sudo lspci, search it for microphone [21:37] or maybe just mic [21:38] there is strange app, called xvidcap :) [21:38] knobydobs: I have to wait for someone else on that [21:38] !info xvidcap [21:38] xvidcap (source: xvidcap): Screen video capture for X. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.7-0.2ubuntu11 (natty), package size 1140 kB, installed size 2792 kB [21:43] http://pastebin.com/t1wUhG7t [21:46] knobydobs: did you do what it said? [21:46] System -> Additional Drivers should have the ati driver to install [21:47] If it is already installed, try running aticonfig in a terminal? [21:47] hello [21:47] nothing in aditional drivers and aticonfig not recognising card [21:48] any wizzard in here to help me with some minor issue xubuntu related [21:48] Then catalyst was correct [21:48] i wait until someone will be available [21:48] !details | hombre [21:48] hombre: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [21:49] ok [21:49] No one has ever given an answer without a question [21:49] knobydobs: If the card isn't recognized, catalyst can't work [21:49] just installed xubuntu dual boot with win xp and it was ok until i did updates because after restart and login and enter password it wont go to desktop [21:50] it comes back to login screen asking for login and passwd [21:50] i added new user same problem [21:50] Change anything? [21:50] i did updates lots o fthem [21:50] them [21:51] it was a fine installation i was almost proud [21:51] Do you get a grub menu when booting? [21:51] good graphics nice speed [21:51] yes [21:51] go to recovery mode, try fix broken packages, clean, then restart and see if it will login [21:51] i have an older version which is xubuntu generic 622... and a newer one which is xubuntu generic 622. 11 [21:51] ok but its in there and giving me my graphics [21:52] hombre: I don't know what those numbers are [21:52] oh, you mean choose from the menu to fix those packages [21:52] Xubuntu versions are different than that [21:52] yup [21:52] ok, that i didnt do that, i ll try [21:53] knobydobs: A video driver is installed, but apparently, not the ati hardware driver that catalyst wants [21:53] something elese, when i boot into safe mode, i can get to the command line ok but i have no idea how to start desktop with sudo and so [21:54] i mean this is my first linux install ever [21:54] command line for getting desktop on [21:54] how do i remove the open source drivers [21:55] !ati [21:55] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [21:55] ok, charlie-tca, thanks, and i come back with the beer if all goes ok, thanks again and all the best [21:55] You are welcome [21:56] Xubuntu community meeting in #xubuntu-devel in 4 Minutes. Everyone is invited to attend. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings [21:56] i did !ati and aticonfig came up saying there were no supported adapters [22:01] /usr/lib/pd-extended/bin/pd-gui: error while loading shared libraries: libtk8.5.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [22:01] what to do? [22:12] how to get catalyst to recognise my gpu? [22:47] hey guys [22:48] I have 2 separated harddisks [22:48] i'm using sdb [22:48] and I want to access my sda hd [22:48] how do I do that? [23:14] is sda a windows drive? [23:16] it's whatever is you hard drive partitioned with [23:16] +r [23:17] m6locks, naturally, but if it's a windows drive, the way to get it to use is different. that's why charlie-tca asked. [23:18] my sisters computer, in wich i installed xubuntu, doesnt allow her to log in [23:18] Why not? [23:18] what does it do? [23:18] GridCube, did she was her hands? xubuntu wants its users to be clean. ;) [23:18] it started to ask her for a password at loging [23:18] but it doesnt accept it [23:18] That's a good sign, normally then it works [23:18] and it was preconfigured to login [23:19] It doesn't accept it at all, just gives "invalid password? [23:19] i doenst accept it [23:19] i could guide her to log in from tty1 [23:19] but for somereason her desktop is on tt8 [23:19] tty8 [23:20] It should be giving a message on the login screen "invalid password" if it doesn't accept it. If it just flashes back to login, that's a different issue [23:20] yes that last one [23:20] she has 11.04 [23:20] That's harder [23:20] :( [23:20] If she installed the wildbush theme, you have to remove ~/.cache and ~/.config and restart [23:21] she did nothing of that [23:21] it started closing her chromium windows when she opened them [23:21] If she somehow managed to turn ~/.ICEauthority to a root file, just use chown to make it her user name again [23:22] chromium I don't enough about to help [23:22] she didn't even knew the password for root [23:22] And autologin no longer works? [23:22] no [23:22] but she can log in through the tty? [23:22] i told her how [23:22] Did it work? [23:22] by phone [23:22] yes [23:22] Then she needs to turn off autologin [23:23] mmm [23:23] how? [23:23] log in to the tty, cd /etc/gdm [23:23] sudo nano gdm.custom [23:23] oh boy [23:23] remove or comment the line to autologin, save, restart [23:23] heh [23:23] or just create a new user, maybe [23:24] But that is hard too from the tty [23:24] :/ so complicated [23:24] charlie-tca, adduser username? :P [23:24] You don't have ability to ssh in and fix it? [23:24] why is that NOT ONE SINGLE time i wan't to install xubuntu to someone and I say, it will be better, NOT ONE SINGLE TIME im correct [23:25] there is always a huge issue like this [23:25] im pretty upset [23:25] because you did not set up ssh to fix things like this [23:25] lol [23:25] maybe tell her to install openssh-sercer [23:25] *server [23:25] that might be easier [23:25] knome: she doesn't even have root password [23:25] i can tell her that [23:25] ;) [23:25] but the problem is what IP does she has? [23:26] GridCube: did you make her user an admin user? [23:26] how can i tell? [23:26] have her log in to the tty and do ifconfig [23:26] it was just a plain install [23:26] she can give you the ip from the top line [23:26] well, from this: inet addr:192.168.51.3 [23:27] wait, ifconfig doesn't necessarily show you the WAN ip [23:27] that's useless. that's your local network :) [23:27] OMG, it's wireless, too? [23:27] ifconfig doesnt do that [23:27] That's a local network because I assign all my own IP addresses here [23:27] its wireless but she is corded [23:27] If it is corded, it will show it [23:27] it will not [23:27] it will be a different number, though [23:28] i just tried on mine [23:28] it doesnt show internet adress just lan [23:28] no, it doesn't show WAN ip even on corded, unless you specified the WAN ip to your ip settings [23:28] i need her to log into her router [23:29] or maybe use links to go to whatsmyip.com or somethinglike that [23:29] GridCube, lynx --dump http://whatismyip.org/ [23:29] GridCube, that outputs it to the shell [23:29] (the external ip) [23:29] does the router allow ssh ports? :P [23:29] Oh, good one. [23:30] We're going to make the poor guy scream... [23:30] well [23:30] I am backing away, you try and help, knome, please. [23:30] as much as i can [23:31] less confusing with one person [23:31] i'm trying to do some commercial work in the side :| [23:31] :) [23:37] SHE DOESNT HAVS SSH-SERVER ON THE APT LIST [23:38] GridCube, openssh-server [23:38] GridCube, anc cut down the volume by a few dB's thanks ;) [23:39] yes sorry [23:40] thank you [23:40] np [23:45] i cant log in [23:46] i cant log in :( [23:46] time out [23:46] are ssh port (22) allowed from router? [23:46] i don't think [23:46] s/are/is/ [23:46] then you need to allow that, after which you should be able to log in [23:47] yeah she wont [23:48] :( [23:48] i hate this [23:48] i try to make things better and it just messes things up [23:51] she needs to create a user? [23:52] GridCube: just have her create a new user, then [23:52] i don't know if that will fix things [23:53] will have her try [23:53] or tell her to remove ~/.cache, if that'd help [23:54] she quited [23:54] she want's me to check he computer myself [23:54] :/ [23:55] How did she learn windows? [23:55] It wasn't something that isn't learned [23:55] yes, yes, but thats what it is