[00:09] <jschall> on my mom's machine, flashplugin has stopped working twice and I've had her run "sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-installer" which has fixed the problem both times. Anyone know why it happens and how to stop it from happening? She uses chromium on kubuntu 11.04 on a system76 gazelle professional.
[00:12] <Walex> I am keeping on Kubuntu LTS 10.04, but I'd like to try to update the KDE SC on it to something newer like 4.6 and wondering if there are Kubuntu KDE SC backports
[00:24] <amichair> what's the meaning of this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/guarddog/2.6.0-3ubuntu1
[00:25] <amichair> guarddog has been removed from Natty repos, but a new version is out? (relative to the last one available in the repos before upgrade)? Or something else going on here?
[00:26] <yofel> amichair: if you click on 'Full publishing history' at the right, you see that it has been deleted
[00:27] <yofel> what you see is the changelog of the package while it existed
[00:27] <amichair> yofel: so the last version (2.6.0-3ubuntu1) was published on Natty, except it wasn't because it's deleted?
[00:28] <yofel> amichair: it was published in natty and later removed from the archive
[00:28] <yofel> what you see is the package data left on Launchpad
[00:28] <amichair> yofel: iirc, it was removed right when Natty was released...
[00:29] <yofel> well, a bit before looking at the deletion date
[00:30] <amichair> yofel: ok, so it was both updated and deleted before Natty came out. Strange, but ok :-)
[00:30] <amichair> so if I'm still using it (couldn't find a decent alternative), with the last version that was indeed published (2.6.0-2.1ubuntu3), I should be updating manually to this version somehow?
[00:30] <yofel> amichair: really? It was updated in january and deleted in march
[00:31] <yofel> as part of the kde3 removal round
[00:31] <yofel> see bug 727386
[00:32] <amichair> yofel: I'm confused, you're saying it wasn't both updated and deleted before Natty was launched?
[00:32] <yofel> amichair: it was updated in natty in january, later in march it was deleted as part of the kde3 application removals
[00:33] <yofel> the 2 actions weren't done by one and the same person
[00:33] <amichair> yofel: yes, and this all happened before natty was released...
[00:33] <yofel> yes? happens often
[00:33] <yofel> amichair: feel free to pull the .deb packages that are on launchpad if you want to use them, we don't support them anymore
[00:34] <amichair> yofel: so if I still have it from the maverick->natty update, should I update manually somehow to the -3ubuntu version? or does this mean it shouldn't be considered and updated or is broken or something like that?
[00:34] <amichair> yofel: while I'm at it, is there a good alternative available yet?
[00:35] <yofel> I don't know if it was broken, and I have no idea what guarddog even is, maybe someone else knows an alternative
[00:35] <amichair> a great firewall  GUI, it was :-)
[00:36] <amichair> does kde have one yet?
[00:36] <amichair> !firewall
[00:36] <amichair> heh
[00:36] <amichair> or not :-)
[00:37] <yofel> I think I saw a kde ui for UFW somewhere on kde-apps.org, but haven't looked lately
[00:37] <yofel> here it is http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=137789
[00:38] <amichair> yofel: is that supported by kubuntu, or planned to be?
[00:40] <amichair> fwiw, I think the guarddog model of defining zones and rules between them was a really good way of doing things. Much more organized and friendly than a bunch of messy explicit rules.
[00:40] <yofel> we did discuss this for oneiric (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-packaging) but I don't remember why it didn't end up on the todo list
[00:42] <amichair> yofel: well, I'll give the updated guarddog a shot for now. Hope to see a decent fw in kubuntu sooner rather than later.
[00:42] <amichair> yofel: in any case, thanks for your help :-)
[00:42] <yofel> you're welcome :)
[00:45] <apachelogger> yofel: I am reasonable certain because firewalls suck and there is no reason to have something on the CD that does not make sense in a CD setup
[00:45] <apachelogger> now since we have a no-open port by default policy a firewall ui would make no sense
[00:45] <yofel> well, nvm CD, it's not in the archive at all
[00:45] <apachelogger> cause no one packaged it
[00:46] <apachelogger> and since we'd not put it on the CD there is no incentive for taking up a work item as it has no direct value for the product :P
[00:47] <amichair> might as well remove ufw and iptables as well, then :-)
[00:48] <apachelogger> that is not within our seed
[00:48]  * apachelogger quite frankly has no idea why ufw is seeded by default
[00:48] <amichair> I'm sure if anyone can manage it, you can :-)
[00:48] <yofel> amichair: feel free to file a needs-packaging bug for kde-config-ufw, don't think there is one yet
[00:48] <apachelogger> or package it :P
[00:49]  * amichair has no idea what's the point of ufw in the first place...
[00:49] <apachelogger> it is meant to not be complicated
[00:50] <apachelogger> and if the ufw kcm is any indication I'd say it does a pretty bad job at not being complicated
[00:50] <amichair> just as inconvenient as iptables, with less flexibility and no cross-distro acquaintance
[00:51] <amichair> it's a real shame guarddog is no longer maintained. It actually works ok on Natty, so a port might not be all that complicated... who knows.
[00:52] <amichair> oh well. 4am is no time to be dealing with security.
[00:52] <amichair> g'nite guys!
[00:52] <apachelogger> nini
[00:52] <apachelogger> yofel: you should go to bed
[00:52] <apachelogger> oh, I should too
[00:52] <apachelogger> ...
[00:52] <yofel> heh
[00:52] <yofel> amichair: gn
[01:23] <bl4ckc00k1e> hello
[01:23] <bl4ckc00k1e> hola
[01:23] <bl4ckc00k1e> spanish or inglish?
[01:24] <bl4ckc00k1e> i have a problem, i dont know why i start with gnome
[01:24] <bl4ckc00k1e> i installed some program or someting
[01:24] <bl4ckc00k1e> and i dont now how to change to KDE
[01:24] <bl4ckc00k1e> all my programs are KDE but when i start i start with gnome
[01:25] <LINKSWORD2> Hey guys, I'm looking for a Kubuntu alternative to the Gothic style of font.
[01:25] <bl4ckc00k1e> where can i change that?
[01:25] <bl4ckc00k1e> i try to start firefox but i have a kde screen that tell me if i wanna install, and nothing happend, so i cant search in google
[01:33] <Daskreech> bl4ckc00kle: Hello
[01:34] <Kaesi> hello
[01:34] <Daskreech> Hi
[01:35] <Kaesi> now i installed my kubuntu ;)
[01:36] <Kaesi> ein telekomiker *grinz*
[01:45] <Daskreech> :)
[02:33] <semitones> i'm having a little trouble figuring out how to install this: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/base/plasma/applets/konsolator/ -- can anyone take a look?
[02:36] <Daskreech> from source?
[02:37] <semitones> yes
[02:37] <semitones> i guess
[02:37] <semitones> i can't find any packages
[02:37] <semitones> and i can't seem to download these files
[02:39] <Daskreech> how are you getting them?
[02:48] <yoga> How do I upgrade to the 11.10 from 11.04 in Kubuntu? I cannot find it in KPackageKit.
[02:52] <semitones> Daskreech: i can't seem to get them at all. I just get linked to a revision log
[02:53] <semitones> i just thought it would be handy to have konsole on the desktop, but it is proving very complicated
[02:55] <Daskreech> !upgrade | yoga
[02:57] <Wolf_22> Running Kubuntu on 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) and just finished installing the ndiswrapper for my Belkin F7D1101 without internet--a pretty hairy job, I might add. Anyway, it seems to see scanned APs, but can't connect to my home's AP. Anyone have any ideas? Shouldn't I be able to ping my 192.168.1.1?
[02:58] <Daskreech> semitones: http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Package
[02:58] <Daskreech> Wolf_22: does it get an IP?
[02:59] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: wlan0 has an IP6 assigned to it from what I can tell (the hex characters.
[03:01] <Daskreech> Wolf_22: Your AP is giving out IPv6 ?
[03:02] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: All I see is hex characters for the wlan0 where is says "inet6 addr:"... I'm beginning to wonder if the computer isn't tuning into the right channel. Would I need to configure this or does that get handled automatically?
[03:03] <Daskreech> Wolf_22: no Idea. Never fiddled with a belkin driver
[03:04] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: I wouldn't think I'd have to because I told the Wifi connector to "scan" for APs and it saw my home's AP--which makes me wonder now about my Wifi router / modem.
[03:09] <bandit5432> any one having issues with touchpads and oneiric?
[03:31] <Daskreech> Wolf_22: you have the driver loaded I presume?
[03:32] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: Yep. After doing some digging using "dmesg | grep wlan0", I see that the last entry saying how "no IPv6 routers present". This makes me think that it's trying to use an IP6 router, but how on earth it's thinking it needs to is beyond me...
[03:34] <Daskreech>  what happens when you run dhclient against the network card?
[03:41] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: Looks like it runs wlan0 on the broadcast on port 67 at different intervals...
[03:41] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: Then it sleeps...
[03:41] <Daskreech> hrrm
[03:43] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: In my eyes, I think the drivers are there and I think the adapter is working, but I think there's something stupid going on with a setting or something...
[03:45] <Daskreech> Wolf_22: I'll believe that. I've never used Wifi so I don't know
[03:45] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: The settings for my adapter / connection are as follows: Ad-hoc, assigned a BSSID (the router), not restricted to any interface, and the MTU is "Automatic."
[03:45] <Daskreech> Is it a hidden AP?
[03:46] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: And my security is set to use WPA / WPA2. And no, it's not hidden (and the AP uses the same security setting). I also manually tried to set the channel and frequency of the adapter, but it didn't seem to do anything.
[03:48] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: I also tried to manually set the IP details by giving my computer a manually-set IP address within the same net, I used the appropriate subnet and assigned it the gateway... All to no avail. It's really strange. It can see the AP using the generic "scan", but when I try to connect the guy to it, it just doesn't get anything--I can't even ping the AP.
[03:48] <Daskreech> Wolf_22: Was there any notes on your driver for difficulties ?
[03:50] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: Not that I can remember, but I'll go back and see. Keep in mind that this is a ground-up operation because the box I'm doing all this on didn't even connect to anything--I'm using a Belkin adapter as my main method of connecting to my AP... (It's a long story.)
[04:00] <Daskreech> Wolf_22: No way to drop a wire to the routerr?
[04:00] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: Nope--the stupid Verizon thing got blasted with lightening...
[04:01] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: Knocked out the LAN ports. LOL.
[04:01] <Daskreech> >_<
[04:01] <Daskreech> ok well you have net on another device at least
[04:02] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: Yeah, I'm not too worried about access at this point because I have 2 laptops that can use the Wifi with no problems (they're using XP and Windows 7). It's just this manual stuff on top of older hardware that's killing me...)
[04:03] <Daskreech> Hopefully it's not a phone :)
[04:03] <Daskreech> So what happened when you installed
[04:04] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: Get this... I just deactivated ALL security on the router and now it's working flawlessly.
[04:04] <Daskreech> Woohoo!
[04:04] <Daskreech> So It's a WPA issue with the driver
[04:05] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: That's what it's looking like... But now it's off again.
[04:05] <Wolf_22> lol
[04:05] <Daskreech> off as in connected but no packets  or not connected at all?
[04:06] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: When I told it to connect to the AP, it connected and I even saw it on my router's network readout, but then suddenly it fell off. I can't explain it. I'm thinking this might be a driver issue now...
[04:07] <Daskreech> Pretty much
[04:07] <Daskreech> Or Gremlins
[04:07] <Daskreech> try starting the kernel with --gremlins2wasbetter
[04:08] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: Haha.
[04:08] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: I would, but then I probably wouldn't even be able to reboot the damn thing.
[04:09] <Daskreech> Good point :)
[04:09] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: Well, it seems to be a bit more stable now as it doesn't seem to be dropping the connection. I'm going to see if there's anything I can do with the security on this because obviously I can't leave my AP naked like that...
[04:09] <Daskreech> Put a towel over it
[04:09] <Daskreech> My mother has horrible tech advice
[04:10] <Daskreech> She called me to find out if someone had hacked her e-mail because her laptop screen cracked
[04:10] <Daskreech> She would have a petticoat for your AP
[04:10] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: Ha. Yeah, well one thing I intend on doing is posting about this over on the forums because it just dropped again... Hopefully someone out there in the ether will have some insight into this. Surely it's not the adapter, but right now I'm not willing to mark off anything. Heck, it could be the ozone for all I know...
[04:11] <Daskreech> Wolf_22: Yeah that's a good spot. Where did you get the driver?
[04:13] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: Came with the adapter. Had to use that "ndiswrapper" combined with the "ndisgtk" for the gui (to know what the heck I was doing because the gui is the thing that let me load the actual drivers normally used on XP or whatever).
[04:13] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: And trust me, installing those 2 things was a PAIN.
[04:14] <Daskreech> On the disk?
[04:16] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: The OEM drivers were on the disk that came with the Belkin. Had to sneaker-net the DEB files necessary for the ndiswrapper stuff... Once I got the front-end working, I used it to load up the WinXP net8192su.inf file (the drivers).
[04:17] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: I went through installing about 10 dependencies before I could finally use the ndisgtk and all this was after finally coming to a compatible version of Linux for the old hardware this computer of mine is using.
[04:18] <Daskreech> which card is it?
[04:18] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: It's a USB F7D1101.
[04:19] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: The thing has a nasty rep in the Linux community...
[04:19] <Daskreech> Great :)
[04:20] <Daskreech> May the Wrath of a thousand penguins assault them
[04:20] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: Yeah, no kidding. It's like, "I'm divorced with no legs and 1 arm that's missing 4 fingers. I'm blind, have lung cancer, and my middle name is "Lucky.""
[04:21] <Daskreech> ha ha
[04:21] <Daskreech> So you are left with just your middle finger and driving through the bad part of town?
[04:22] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: Hell, I could be resting my compass on the rock of Gibralter and not find my way out of this cluster... I just need to break down and get a new box man. This things even showing some faults with the video card now (old Voodoo 3).
[04:23] <Daskreech> Wow I have a Voodoo2
[04:23] <Daskreech> Thought I can't think of when last it was in a box. what is your intention for the machine?
[04:24] <Wolf_22> Daskreech: Shoutcast stream to my Soundblaster Audigy and simple file server if possible.
[04:24] <Daskreech> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1522815&highlight=Belkin+F7D1101
[04:25] <Wolf_22> Might have to try that, but hey man, it's been nice: bed time for me over here in Indiana. Catch ya on the flip-flop and thanks for your help in all this mess.
[04:34] <Daskreech> Ok night
[06:56] <jussi> So, quick question, hows does one create a pdf from 3 images. (I scanned 3 pages, want them now as a pdf)
[07:02] <jussi> nvm, figured it: Pictures$ convert Image-0009.png Image-0010.png Image-0008.png new_pdf.pdf
[07:02] <jussi> :)
[07:03] <ikonia> jussi: can you do that from within the desktop, or does it have to be from the application
[07:03] <ikonia> eg: is it intergrated into the desktop ?
[07:03] <silv3r_m00n> I need a good time tracking widget for kde
[07:04] <jussi> ikonia: I think convert is a comand from imagemagick
[07:04] <jussi> silv3r_m00n: time tracking in what sense?
[07:04] <ikonia> jussi: sure, but is that now intergrated into the desktop, or are you just running "convert" from the command line ?
[07:04] <jussi> ikonia: from the clui
[07:04] <silv3r_m00n> how much I worked like coding , web development yet
[07:04] <jussi> cli
[07:05] <silv3r_m00n> etc*
[07:05] <ikonia> jussi: I was about to be impressed they had intergrated it into the desktop.....now I'm not.
[07:05] <silv3r_m00n> I found ktimetracker but its more like an application
[07:05] <silv3r_m00n> need something for the desktop , that is quick
[07:06] <jussi> silv3r_m00n: like a plasmoid ?
[07:06] <silv3r_m00n> yeah
[07:07] <jussi> silv3r_m00n: this isnt in the repos as far as I can see, but maybe useful: https://github.com/sickill/rubytime-plasmoid
[07:08] <silv3r_m00n> and how do I install it ?
[07:10] <jussi> silv3r_m00n: might be a bit complicated tbh - looks like I didnt read very well. sorry (it needs the web backend running for it to report to etc)
[07:27] <igungor> hi
[07:28] <igungor> is there any service like patch tracker of debian, for kubuntu?
[08:21] <effchen> hello, is kubuntu useful for netbooks?
[08:21] <effchen> im searching for alternatives for unitiy
[08:22] <effchen> ubuntu netbook edition was great, but unity is not
[08:30] <valorie> I like it on my netbook
[08:30] <valorie> it's on 11.10 at this point
[08:30] <valorie> the beta
[08:30] <valorie> there is a netbook interface, which is all windows maximized
[08:30] <valorie> but I don't like that
[08:30] <valorie> I just use the regular interface
[08:31] <valorie> but you can switch back and forth in systemsettings
[08:31] <effchen> i wanna be my programms sorted in categorys
[08:31] <effchen> that was so good
[08:31] <effchen> now it is possible but not so easy
[08:32] <roxxy> i am unable to open my home folder, it opens VLC up.  is there some where i can check to see if the file path has changed? if so how or where can i check to see and correct it?
[08:34] <runlevelten> anyone had any issues with sound breaking at the most recent update, who can share? It's got me stumped, but I'm at work so I both need sound alerts and lack the time to tinker extensively?
[08:35] <runlevelten> anyone who has, please ping. Obviously I won't respond straight away as I have no sound, but I'll check regularly.
[08:38]  * runlevelten reboots to try a fix
[09:08] <eean> so kmail locks up after 1 minute of having the composer open
[09:08] <eean> the event loop is still running: it checks for mail etc
[09:08] <eean> but it stops accepting new input
[09:09] <eean> using kde 4.7
[09:14] <Vovan> пиздец
[09:14] <Unit193> !ru
[09:22] <Mamarok> eean: might be a question for the kmail people, I don't think this is distro specific
[10:17] <airrobot> Hi I am unable to configure proxy settings can any one help please
[10:19] <airrobot> I did "export http_proxy=http://someValidProxy.de:3128"
[10:19] <airrobot> then I am trying "ping google.com"
[10:19] <airrobot> but there is no response
[10:20] <airrobot> any suggetions will be lot helpful
[10:38] <Torch> airrobot: ping does not use http
[10:45] <eean> is there a repo for kmail 2?
[10:48] <eean> ah found it ppa:kubuntu-ppa/experimental
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:28] <raptorninja> hello is ther german speaking alowed ?
[12:35] <raptorninja> 26.09.2011 14:07:13	raptorninja-PC	dbus-daemon	[system] Rejected send message, 7 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.31" (uid=1000 pid=1662 comm="/usr/bin/plasma-desktop ") interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager" member="Sleep" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager" (uid=0 pid=537 comm="NetworkManager "))
[12:38] <jmut_> hi. happy kubuntu user.  It comes with gwenview for checking up images.
[12:39] <jmut_> is there some image viewer to recommend that is not trying to be "smart" about images. Rotating them for me for example and not able to see them vanilla
[12:47] <tonymc> i think there's a preference in gwenview
[12:47] <tonymc> that turns that off
[12:47] <tonymc> but i'm not sure
[13:11] <jamil_1> Hi all, sound is giving me problems. If I do sudo alsa force-reload and manually select the alsa backend and the device in vlc then sound work for vlc only
[14:17] <BarkingFish> Hi guys. I don't know if I'm missing something, but I need to install a package which doesn't appear to exist anymore, at least not in natty - it's urgent that I get it and I can't seem to install it.
[14:18] <BarkingFish> It's referred to in other packages as a require, but it's not on the mirrors - opensync-module-python
[14:18] <BarkingFish> the last I can see of it was in maverick
[14:30] <markkraevskijj> hey, guys! kubuntu 1104 on wetab 3g works correctly! congrate me!
[14:31] <OerHeks> nice, mark
[15:18] <markit> hi, with dolphin I delete a file, but tells me that the trash is full, and I have to empty it first. But is already empty! I've checked permissions and seem ok
[15:22] <genii-around> markit: Does ls ~/.local/share/Trash/files/           show any files in there?
[15:23] <markit> genii-around: ops, sorry, was trying something, I'm rebooting, hold on
[15:23] <markit> (I've moved the dir elsewhere, hope will rebuit at next login)
[15:24] <markit> (happens on a different pc than this, so I can keep chatting :))
[15:24] <markit> btw, don't know where trash dimensions are setup
[15:25] <markit> ok, has been recreated and now works
[15:25] <markit> let me investigate old trash, just for curiosity
[15:25] <markit> there is only a .directory file
[15:28] <pyron> ahoj
[15:31] <markit> genii-around: metadata file had a HUGE number inside
[15:34] <genii-around> markit: Very odd.
[15:38] <markit> yep, was Size=18446744073670674302
[16:46] <Nightsdawn> Hello, new Kbuntu user here
[16:47] <Nightsdawn> kubuntu even
[16:49] <pythonsnake> Nightsdawn: Hello.
[16:49] <pythonsnake> Nightsdawn: Welcome to Kubuntu (or Linux) World. :-).
[16:50] <pythonsnake> Nightsdawn: If you need any support, just ask. :-).
[17:03] <TheLastProject> Ah, a new Kubuntu user?
[17:03] <TheLastProject> Welcome to OS heaven
[17:04] <TheLastProject> I can almost guarantee you'll never want to switch back to Windows again
[17:04] <Nightsdawn> hi :) new to Kubuntu but have used ubuntu recently and slackware and suse waaaaay back in the day when it was faster to mail order discs than DL them
[17:05] <Nightsdawn> sorry dinner making disturbing chat
[17:05] <TheLastProject> Ah, okay
[17:06] <Nightsdawn> but mainly a windows user as i play a lot of games but think its about time to try wine and see if i can go all linux for a month :)
[17:07] <pythonsnake> TheLastProject: :-)
[17:07] <Nightsdawn> better sidh up food back in 20, sorry to drop in then vanish
[17:07] <TheLastProject> Hi o,o
[17:07] <TheLastProject> dw Nightsdawn
[17:09] <pythonsnake> dw ?
[17:09] <TheLastProject> dw = don't worry
[17:26] <Nightsdawn> back
[17:26] <pythonsnake> Welcome back.
[17:27] <pythonsnake> How to get bash completion with sudo ?
[17:27] <twocarlo> can i use pppoeconf command in kubuntu
[17:27] <twocarlo> 10.10
[17:29] <ikonia> pythonsnake: you're using 11.10 - so please don't discuss in here
[17:30] <twocarlo> because i cant connect to the internet  and because i cant do it on knetworkmanager on gui
[17:30] <ikonia> twocarlo: try it,
[17:31] <twocarlo> wait
[17:32] <Nightsdawn> using nvidia x server settings and need to save to X config file but not sure where to find it
[17:33] <pythonsnake> ikonia: it is general question, not version-specific
[17:35] <Nightsdawn> have tried /usr/share/X11/ and /usr/lib/X11/rstart/ but config file in there wont accept change
[17:35] <ikonia> pythonsnake: no - it's version specific, you ARE using 11.10 - please do not ask for support in here
[17:37] <pythonsnake> ikonia: I fixed it with complete -cf sudo command, is it version specific command or something like that ?
[17:39] <ikonia> pythonsnake: the packages and dependencies are version specifc as are any potential bugs, so I'll ask you one more time, you ARE running 11.10, please do not ask for support in here
[17:44] <Walex> I am keeping on Kubuntu LTS 10.04, but I'd like to try to update the KDE SC on it to something newer like 4.6 and wondering if there are Kubuntu KDE SC backports
[17:54] <genii-around> !info kubuntu-desktop lucid-backports
[18:00] <Nightsdawn> cant seem to save settings to xorg.conf even saving as a new file fails
[18:01] <Nightsdawn> should i overwrite an existing dile?
[18:01] <Nightsdawn> file
[18:02] <TheLastProject> I usually do "sudo kate" and open the xorg.conf file with that
[18:02] <TheLastProject> o,o
[18:02] <genii-around> kdesudo kate is preferred there
[18:02] <pythonsnake> o,o
[18:02] <TheLastProject> kdesudo?
[18:02] <TheLastProject> Hmmm, don't know the difference =/
[18:02] <TheLastProject> Is that bad?
[18:03] <Nightsdawn> thers no actual xorg.conf file just 10-evdev.conf 50-wacom.conf etc
[18:03] <TheLastProject> (Except from the fact that kdesudo looks nicer)
[18:03] <TheLastProject> etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't exist? o,o
[18:03] <genii-around> TheLastProject: Running graphical apps with sudo sometimes leads to problems with files getting modified ownership to root in the users home directory.
[18:03] <TheLastProject> Errr... then I don't know, sorry =/
[18:03] <Nightsdawn> im looking in /usr/share/x11/xorg.conf.d
[18:03] <genii-around> Nightsdawn: /etc/X11/xorg.conf    ( it does not exist by default )
[18:04] <Nightsdawn> i even tried locate xorg.conf
[18:04] <TheLastProject> Ah, okay
[18:04] <TheLastProject> I suppose that's a bad thing
[18:04] <genii-around> TheLastProject: Yes.
[18:04] <TheLastProject> (Geez, I know too little about Linux...)
[18:04] <TheLastProject> I have been sudo-ing all my graphical apps so far =/
[18:04] <Nightsdawn> cool ill try that cheers
[18:04] <TheLastProject> But I'll try to remember genii, thanks for the tip
[18:12] <genii-around> !kdesudo
[18:16] <TheLastProject> 2. Running graphical applications with sudo also has the downside of always having to be run from the terminal. If you don't use the proper command—gksudo or kdesudo, you will not be able to use the command as an icon launcher or keyboard shortcut because there will be no graphical dialogue box to enter your sudo password in.
[18:16] <TheLastProject> That explains so much...
[18:17] <genii-around> :)
[18:17] <Nightsdawn> so in KDE sudo is kdesudo?
[18:17] <TheLastProject> Now I know why my "sudo savage2" icon didn't work XD
[18:17] <TheLastProject> For graphical applications, yes
[18:18] <Nightsdawn> what about normally like sudo apt-get
[18:18] <TheLastProject> apt-get is a command line application, not a graphical one, so sudo should be fine
[18:18] <TheLastProject> (If I understand it right)
[18:20] <TheLastProject> (I only learned about kdesudo 5 minutes ago myself as well :P )
[18:20] <genii-around> Nightsdawn: As TheLastProject said. Commands which normally execute only in the command line are fine to use sudo with. It's only when you mix sudo with running graphical applications
[18:21] <TheLastProject> Maybe the overuse of sudo is what broke my Fedora 15 =/
[18:21] <Nightsdawn> ah ok, think i finaly saved xorg.conf with the settings i need for dual monitors, now to reboot. hope it works
[18:21] <TheLastProject> Good luck!
[18:25] <Nightsdawn> partial success
[18:26] <Nightsdawn> 2nd monitor working but as seperate window that i cant drag stuff over too but thats just a settings change
[18:26] <TheLastProject> Hey, it could be worse :P
[18:27] <TheLastProject> In Fedora 15 I broke my kernel when trying to install my graphic card driver =D
[18:31] <roboso> hello
[18:37] <roboso> con I7 ONU Devo usare THIS version? 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD
[18:37] <user_> hi...I am not able to get the X server to use the radeon driver...I get a blank screen
[18:38] <user_> the last line in the log says "AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch"
[18:38] <maco> roboso: para ayuda en español, va a #kubuntu-es por favor
[18:38] <user_> is this a problem with acpid?
[18:40] <Nightsdawn> harray success at last
[19:07] <transformers> hello
[19:07] <transformers> i have a problem
[19:08] <transformers> in kubuntu 11.04 i create flash(usb) for kubuntu 10.03 NOT work
[19:08] <transformers> a use usb creator(in kubuntu 11.04)
[19:13] <pythonsnake> Hi
[19:14] <pythonsnake> is Description:    Ubuntu oneiric (development branch) correct ofr Kubuntu ?
[19:16] <pythonsnake> Anyone can give me his lsb_release -d please ?
[19:18] <OerHeks> yes, oneiric is in development, beta 2 status
[19:19] <pythonsnake> OerHeks: lsb_release -d
[19:19] <pythonsnake> For Kubuntu is Description:    Ubuntu oneiric (development branch) ?
[19:19] <OerHeks> i am not running oneiric
[19:19] <ahel> hi! trying installing beta2 through wubi. is a bad idea mounting the cd from alcohol and not burning one?
[19:20] <OerHeks> ahel should work, but support & discussion for oneiric beta2 in #Ubuntu+1 please
[19:21] <ahel> oh thank you for your answer OerHeks :) really appreciated :)
[19:21] <OerHeks> have fun
[19:21] <pythonsnake> OerHeks: please give me your lsb_release -d
[19:22] <OerHeks> what has it to do with your oneiric question, pythonsnake ?
[19:22] <pythonsnake> OerHeks: I want to check if it's "kubuntu" or "ubuntu"
[19:23] <pythonsnake> OerHeks: please =[
[19:24] <OerHeks> Description:    Ubuntu 11.04
[19:24] <OerHeks> ic, you want to make sure if it is KDE ? > kded4 --version
[19:30] <ikonia> pythonsnake: why do you want to know
[19:30] <ikonia> pythonsnake: why do you want it ?
[19:32] <OerHeks> it is not telling what KDE version, afaik
[19:34] <ikonia> lsb isn't for the desktop, it's the core base product
[19:42] <rhudgins> Can someone tel me why when i go into System settings/Desktop effects says Desktop effects are not available on this system due to the following technical issues: but it doesnt tell me the issue?
[19:43] <rhudgins> everything is just grayed out and i cant check mark anything
[19:43] <rhudgins> i installed the compiz settings stuff but i cant make cube desktop or anything no effects work
[19:44] <rhudgins> so yeah when i run CCSM i can change settings and stuff in there but whatever i change i get no effects from anything.
[19:46] <genii-around> rhudgins: Most likely is that your current video card driver doesn't support compositing/3D effects. Many Intel cards probably will never work. There's hope for an ATI or NVidia when using proprietary drivers.
[19:47] <OerHeks> is the driver in use ?
[19:48] <genii-around> rhudgins: Perhaps run System... Additional Drivers       to see if an alternate driver is recommended.
[19:48] <rhudgins> i have PCI-E ATI
[19:48] <rhudgins> i did and installed them
[19:48] <rhudgins> looking for to find the graophics card info
[19:49] <rhudgins> ATI HD 5670
[19:50] <pythonsnake> ikonia: nothing special
[19:50] <pythonsnake> OerHeks: thanks
[19:51] <OerHeks> rhudgins, go in ccsm and see if vsync is enabled, this can cause trouble too
[19:51] <rhudgins> k one sec
[19:54] <rhudgins> man ok im sorry takign a while tryign to find where vsync is lol
[20:00] <rhudgins> well i looked through all the compiz settinstg
[20:01] <rhudgins> i dont see vsync anywhere
[20:01] <OerHeks> rhudgins, first screen, opengl
[20:02] <rhudgins> Sync to VBlank?
[20:02] <rhudgins> its checked
[20:02] <OerHeks> yes, try without ?
[20:02] <rhudgins> ok one sec
[20:03] <rhudgins> i unchecked it closed out CCSM nothing happens
[20:03] <rhudgins> i didnt even see a save or apply
[20:03] <OerHeks> close will save settings.
[20:04] <rhudgins> alright so now what do i do?
[20:04] <rhudgins> i have wobbly windows and stuff checked but i get no effects
[20:04] <OerHeks> what videocard do you have ? lspci | grep VGA
[20:05] <rhudgins> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Redwood [Radeon HD 5670]
[20:05] <OerHeks> oke, and you enabled the nvidia [current]  driver ?
[20:05] <wpecker> Hi, when I change my resolution to 1024x768 in kubuntu 11.04 the system tray and clock disappears, how can I fix this?
[20:05] <OerHeks> that would be the latest.
[20:07] <rhudgins> All i did when i installed Kubuntu was go to the thing where you have to install 3rd party drivers and i installed my ATI driver
[20:07] <rhudgins> but its not nvidia
[20:07] <ikonia> zul: /window 14
[20:07] <ikonia> oops, sorry
[20:08] <TheEvilPhoenix> lol
[20:08] <TheEvilPhoenix> whoops wrong chan
[20:09] <rhudgins> im searching the addictional drivers thing now
[20:09] <rhudgins> it says its activated
[20:10] <wpecker> Hi, when I change my resolution to 1024x768 in kubuntu 11.04 the system tray and clock disappears, how can I fix this? It comes back when I change it to another resolution like 800x600
[20:10] <rhudgins> the ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver
[20:12] <rhudgins> like my system runs fast the desktop looks good and everyting works its just cant enable effects
[20:13] <OerHeks> i am looking through http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Natty_Installation_Guide for a possible cause/solution, but can't find any clue
[20:16] <rhudgins> i'm sure its just something simple im missing like am i supose to rub CCSM as sudo or something? i dont know ive been out of the loop with linux for years just now 3 days ago decided to try out kubuntu after like 5 years of not useing linux so just a little lost
[20:16] <rhudgins> it was nice though when i installed kubuntu everything worked right from the box
[20:17] <rhudgins> and its fast!!!
[20:17] <OerHeks> no need to run ccsm as root, afaik
[20:17] <rhudgins> desktop effects is only eyecandy so im not that concerned about it but i wanted to just check it out
[20:17] <rhudgins> OerKeks: ok
[20:26] <rhudgins> OerKeks: i'm looking in the kwinrc
[20:27] <rhudgins> i see [Compositing] CheckIsSafe=true OpenGLIsUnsafe=true
[20:28] <rhudgins> and i see [Plugins] kwin4_effect_cubeslideEnabled=false kwin4_effect_fadedesktopEnabled=false kwin4_effect_slideEnabled=true
[20:33] <rhudgins> i changed the OpenGLIsUnsafe=true to false going to try that
[20:35] <russ> OerKelks: that did it!
[20:35] <russ> its enable now!
[20:35] <OerHeks> nice :-)
[20:35] <russ> awesome!
[20:35] <russ> :)
[20:36] <bilygates> hello! any idea how safe it is to install kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu 11.10 beta 2? :D
[20:36] <russ> I found that “KWin has detected that your OpenGL library is unsafe to use, falling back to XRender.”
[20:37] <russ> Nice now when i hit ALT+TAB i get the flipping windows! nice!
[20:39] <OerHeks> i am courious about not been enabling that effect.
[20:39] <russ> OerKelks: you can't enable it?
[20:39] <OerHeks> bilygates, oneiric beta2 is not stable for production or seriouse use
[20:40] <OerHeks> i have nvidia, and works, but i disable those features, it does not make my pc faster.
[20:40] <bilygates> oerheks i know, i have been dumb enough to install it on my production pc
[20:40] <russ> OerKelks: ahhh i see yeah well i would never use them either they just look cool :)
[20:57] <bilygates> i'm happy to report that 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' worked flawlessly in ubuntu 11.10 beta2 ^.^
[20:58] <mj> hi for all
[20:59] <Guest87463> is here anyone willing to help with 2 monitors on kubuntu?
[21:00] <Guest87463> I have issue with 2 monitors, can anyone help me out?
[21:02] <BluesKaj> Guest87463, I would help , but i haven't any experience with 2 monitors , but if you state your issue in more detail , perhaps someone can help
[22:23] <BarkingFish> Evening guys.  I'm in need of some desperate help, and so far, google's been next to useless.  Anyone in the mood to help me fix my kernel drivers please? I need some modules I haven't got, and can't seem to reinstall them.
[22:24] <BarkingFish> I took them out earlier per instructions for installing a program called synce - I need rndis_wlan , usbnet and cdc_ether, none of which I seem to be able to get again, despite reinstalling my kernel
[22:26] <pythonsnake> hi?
[22:30] <soee> hmm im trying to install icon task but git this erro: CMake Error at /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindPackageHandleStandardArgs.cmake:198 (MESSAGE):
[22:30] <soee>   Could NOT find DBusMenuQt (missing: DBUSMENUQT_LIBRARIES
[22:30] <soee>   DBUSMENUQT_INCLUDE_DIR)
[22:30] <soee> Call Stack (most recent call first):
[22:30] <soee>   /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindDBusMenuQt.cmake:90 (find_package_handle_standard_args)
[22:30] <FloodBotK1> soee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:31] <BarkingFish> anyone about who can help me fix this module problem please? It's pretty important
[22:35] <OerHeks> re-install of the kernel does not solve ??
[22:36] <BarkingFish> OerHeks, no
[22:36] <BarkingFish> I reinstalled from the .deb in the apt/archives and it didn't work - do I have to reinstall from kpackagekit?
[22:39] <hamed> hi every body
[22:39] <hamed> any one here
[22:39] <BarkingFish> Basically, I've bought a sync lead for my HP iPAQ, and I need to be able to sync with it in order to get my programs updated on it.  I am now getting it to appear in lsusb (Bus 004 Device 002: ID 03f0:1c1d Hewlett-Packard iPAQ) but it's not loading the right modules, it's missing rndis_host and the other two mods I need to exchange data with it
[22:41] <hamed> may be no one here
[22:42] <BarkingFish> hamed, we're here.
[22:42] <BarkingFish> If you need to ask something, ask :)  We won't bite.
[22:42] <BarkingFish> much
[22:43] <hamed> ok i tried to install windows and ubuntu on my laptop but i damaged my hard
[22:43] <hamed> at first i lost one of my partitions
[22:43] <hamed> his name changed
[22:43] <hamed> and no data on it
[22:44] <BarkingFish> hamed, did you try to install ubuntu or kubuntu?
[22:44] <hamed> the second when i try to install ubuntu the hard appear as a one part
[22:44] <hamed> ubuntu
[22:45] <BarkingFish> hamed - you need to ask #ubuntu then
[22:45] <BarkingFish> we deal with the KDE version here
[22:46] <hamed> ok thank you very much
[22:46] <BarkingFish> no problem
[23:35] <sizz> I'm trying to setup google calendar in thunderbird 7 (for 11.10), but there's no 'file->new->calendar' option in the menu. can anyone confirm this, and is there a solution?
[23:38] <zapperdj> does anyone know how can i asign an different activity to each virtual desktop in kde 4.6?
[23:39] <zapperdj> i know it was possible in earliar versions of kde4, but onthe latest ones it seems impossible