| xannen | Morning! | 01:30 |
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| sagaci | 2 hours later, ultimate usb to try out with ubuntu | 06:39 |
| head_victim | sagaci: why 2 hours? | 06:41 |
| sagaci | that was spent in the telstra shop | 06:41 |
| head_victim | Oh wow. The only time I even go to one is for my parents and usually they're the reason it takes so long. | 06:42 |
| sagaci | I was a patient kind of a customer, let them help out some other guy purchasing a yagi antenna which they had absolutely no idea | 06:42 |
| head_victim | Hah yeah they don't really have a clue there, the telstra shops are only retail so all account changes and stuff they have to call up the centres themselves. | 06:43 |
| sagaci | yeah, no idea with this one, so I played dumb | 06:43 |
| sagaci | plugging into windows 7 now to check for firmware updates before I try with ubuntu | 06:44 |
| sagaci | meh, have to wait a while for it to be activated | 06:53 |
| sagaci | should be awesome in sydney though | 06:53 |
| head_victim | Ah you not paying for it yet? | 06:54 |
| head_victim | You can activate online or via phone usually | 06:54 |
| sagaci | nah I activated it in store | 06:54 |
| sagaci | just tried to sign into my bigpond but it says it's still in progess :/ | 06:54 |
| sagaci | so much for "take your laptop and be activated" or whatever slogan they're using now | 06:55 |
| head_victim | Ah that's odd. I'm always just adding stuff to existing accounts though so maybe that makes it different | 06:55 |
| sagaci | nah, I only wanted standalone for 12 months | 06:55 |
| sagaci | to test reception, etc... I know it's a bit of an expensive way to do it but I'd rather not be tied to a 24-month contract with a bad service | 06:56 |
| head_victim | Fair call, I looked around at prepaid and decided a home network gateway for 10 bucks a month that I can up to higher plans when needed suited me better. Now I have backup at home when I need it. | 06:56 |
| sagaci | yeah, bigpond was the only choice for unmetered | 06:56 |
| head_victim | The 240 I spend on the 10/month was given back to me in credit for the home network gateway anyway | 06:56 |
| sagaci | I could have gone with 7GB with a business telstra plan but no unmetered | 06:56 |
| head_victim | Oh make sure you use the aarnet repos, they're still unmetered on wireless. | 06:57 |
| sagaci | yeah, that's my motivation for wireless/bigpond :P | 06:57 |
| head_victim | I've put over 100GB through a 400MB plan just to make sure it was unmetered ;) | 06:57 |
| sagaci | I was going to go with internode again but the startup costs were just as dear | 06:57 |
| sagaci | it's just handy having it unmetered when you've borked a system or simply want to reinstall and not have to worry about using up fuel | 06:58 |
| head_victim | I've found with telstra if you're buying multiple products it's just as cheap as anywhere else anyway. Not sure I'd agree if I only wanted 1 thing thouhg. | 06:58 |
| head_victim | Do what I do, keep a local mirror from aarnet so you have offline access as well ;) | 06:58 |
| sagaci | have you got 3G wireless? | 06:58 |
| head_victim | I do, but my main connection is cable. | 06:58 |
| sagaci | what dongle do you use | 06:59 |
| head_victim | Don't, I use a home network gateway. It has a 4 port switch and wlan as well. | 06:59 |
| head_victim | External antenna if required, basically a standalone router. | 06:59 |
| head_victim | I have it plugged into my wan2 port on my home router as a failover if needed. | 07:00 |
| sagaci | so you can only use it around the house, yeah? | 07:01 |
| head_victim | Anywhere that has external power. | 07:01 |
| sagaci | ah yep | 07:02 |
| head_victim | http://go.bigpond.com/wireless/ | 07:03 |
| head_victim | I have the bigpond elite network gateway | 07:03 |
| head_victim | To be honest, if I wanted one just for me I'd probably just use my mobile was a 3g hotspot. | 07:03 |
| sagaci | yeah, I love my fixed connection | 07:04 |
| head_victim | Our use case for wireless is when we go away on holidays for a couple of weeks, it's nice to be able to both plug in laptops and do what we want without waiting for one another of having to buy 2 accounts/dongles. | 07:05 |
| sagaci | does it get a decent signal | 07:05 |
| head_victim | Good enough, my dad bought an omni antenna for his around the country trip and had no issues when he needed it. | 07:05 |
| head_victim | I've only ever really used it a couple of times at home and I usually get better upload than my cable. | 07:06 |
| xannen | Hey do you guys know anything about 4G? I know that vividi?? and telstra is rolling it out. | 07:13 |
| head_victim | It's just the next step in wireless. | 07:13 |
| xannen | I understand that. I think Vivid has it in operation, 'cause they have prices etc... And telstra is still in testing phase. | 07:14 |
| xannen | http://www.vividwireless.com.au/home | 07:16 |
| head_victim | Depends on what you call 4g as well, there are a few different things people talk about when referring to "4g" | 07:18 |
| head_victim | WiMax, LTE, HSPA+, etc. | 07:19 |
| xannen | I know... lol damn techno stuff | 07:21 |
| xannen | What would you consider as 4g, head_victim? | 07:22 |
| head_victim | 4G is a standard, not a technology ;) | 07:22 |
| head_victim | I'll be waiting 12 months or so after it's available to get it mind you. I'm a slow adapter due to price constraints. | 07:24 |
| xannen | me too lol | 07:25 |
| head_victim | I'm the sort of person that researches the "free" phones they offer on plans and picks the best of them. If it costs me more I'm not interested. | 07:25 |
| xannen | i like buy phone and go on prepaid :D | 07:27 |
| head_victim | I don't see the point, prepaid would cost me similar to what I'm on now. But everyone uses different amounts I guess. | 07:27 |
| xannen | i try to buy cheapest from overseas for phone usually. :D | 07:28 |
| sagaci | head_victim, ping | 10:28 |
| head_victim | sagaci: pong | 10:35 |
| sagaci | is there a way to control what goes on the planet feed by tags or something, since I realise that stuff that I post may not be in the interest of some readers | 10:36 |
| head_victim | Ah yeah, you have to use the feed to control it | 10:37 |
| head_victim | But that being said, the planet isn't strictly on topic either | 10:37 |
| sagaci | hmm ok | 10:38 |
| gorilla | sagaci: don't worry about that too much. It's the nature of planet feeds. | 10:52 |
| sagaci | head_victim, http://www.whereis.com/?id=5C5DFD02C2DB3, the end point being the current location for the syd release party... do you think that the other "ampersand" venue would be better? | 10:55 |
| sagaci | I'm just thinking in reference to public transport.. however I'm also thinking it's too late to change and besides, it's not that much of a change to encourage people to come along | 10:58 |
| head_victim | Hmm, I only get a map of Australia with that link | 11:06 |
| sagaci | nvm | 11:08 |
| sagaci | I'll stick with the original since I've got potentially 3 registered in attending | 11:09 |
| head_victim | I'll dent/tweet about them this week as well | 11:09 |
| sagaci | righteo, I might be on later | 11:11 |
| head_victim | Hmm topic is too big as it is | 13:03 |
| head_victim | Well, just soy ou all know, we're official again!. | 13:03 |
| sagaci | thanks for the email | 13:43 |
| sagaci | holy sh... | 13:43 |
| sagaci | good news | 13:44 |
| head_victim | Long time coming but worth it | 13:46 |
| jargonfactory | congrats fellas oh and hai | 13:52 |
| jargonfactory | \o. | 13:52 |
| sagaci | hi jargonfactory | 13:53 |
| xannen | hi sagaci, head_victim, gorilla, and friends :D | 14:02 |
| sagaci | hi xannen | 14:02 |
| head_victim | Evening | 14:02 |
| head_victim | I really should be asleep by now :/ | 14:02 |
| head_victim | On that note, I shall trundle off to bed. Night all. | 14:03 |
| xannen | Go knock yourself then. Or can I do it. :D | 14:03 |
| jargonfactory | later | 14:03 |
| head_victim | I was just about to go to bed when I was told we were approved again so I just had to tweet/dent/email/forum/fb/etc it | 14:04 |
| jargonfactory | heh | 14:04 |
| xannen | lol socmed | 14:05 |
| sagaci | dpkg, dpkg-dev, dselect, apt-all, libapt-pkg, xkeyboard-config, shared-mime-info and e2fsprogs | 14:21 |
| sagaci | to be done by thursday | 14:21 |
| xannen | sleeping yet? | 15:10 |
| sagaci | about to | 15:12 |
| xannen | Morning | 19:49 |
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