[01:30] Morning! [06:39] 2 hours later, ultimate usb to try out with ubuntu [06:41] sagaci: why 2 hours? [06:41] that was spent in the telstra shop [06:42] Oh wow. The only time I even go to one is for my parents and usually they're the reason it takes so long. [06:42] I was a patient kind of a customer, let them help out some other guy purchasing a yagi antenna which they had absolutely no idea [06:43] Hah yeah they don't really have a clue there, the telstra shops are only retail so all account changes and stuff they have to call up the centres themselves. [06:43] yeah, no idea with this one, so I played dumb [06:44] plugging into windows 7 now to check for firmware updates before I try with ubuntu [06:53] meh, have to wait a while for it to be activated [06:53] should be awesome in sydney though [06:54] Ah you not paying for it yet? [06:54] You can activate online or via phone usually [06:54] nah I activated it in store [06:54] just tried to sign into my bigpond but it says it's still in progess :/ [06:55] so much for "take your laptop and be activated" or whatever slogan they're using now [06:55] Ah that's odd. I'm always just adding stuff to existing accounts though so maybe that makes it different [06:55] nah, I only wanted standalone for 12 months [06:56] to test reception, etc... I know it's a bit of an expensive way to do it but I'd rather not be tied to a 24-month contract with a bad service [06:56] Fair call, I looked around at prepaid and decided a home network gateway for 10 bucks a month that I can up to higher plans when needed suited me better. Now I have backup at home when I need it. [06:56] yeah, bigpond was the only choice for unmetered [06:56] The 240 I spend on the 10/month was given back to me in credit for the home network gateway anyway [06:56] I could have gone with 7GB with a business telstra plan but no unmetered [06:57] Oh make sure you use the aarnet repos, they're still unmetered on wireless. [06:57] yeah, that's my motivation for wireless/bigpond :P [06:57] I've put over 100GB through a 400MB plan just to make sure it was unmetered ;) [06:57] I was going to go with internode again but the startup costs were just as dear [06:58] it's just handy having it unmetered when you've borked a system or simply want to reinstall and not have to worry about using up fuel [06:58] I've found with telstra if you're buying multiple products it's just as cheap as anywhere else anyway. Not sure I'd agree if I only wanted 1 thing thouhg. [06:58] Do what I do, keep a local mirror from aarnet so you have offline access as well ;) [06:58] have you got 3G wireless? [06:58] I do, but my main connection is cable. [06:59] what dongle do you use [06:59] Don't, I use a home network gateway. It has a 4 port switch and wlan as well. [06:59] External antenna if required, basically a standalone router. [07:00] I have it plugged into my wan2 port on my home router as a failover if needed. [07:01] so you can only use it around the house, yeah? [07:01] Anywhere that has external power. [07:02] ah yep [07:03] http://go.bigpond.com/wireless/ [07:03] I have the bigpond elite network gateway [07:03] To be honest, if I wanted one just for me I'd probably just use my mobile was a 3g hotspot. [07:04] yeah, I love my fixed connection [07:05] Our use case for wireless is when we go away on holidays for a couple of weeks, it's nice to be able to both plug in laptops and do what we want without waiting for one another of having to buy 2 accounts/dongles. [07:05] does it get a decent signal [07:05] Good enough, my dad bought an omni antenna for his around the country trip and had no issues when he needed it. [07:06] I've only ever really used it a couple of times at home and I usually get better upload than my cable. [07:13] Hey do you guys know anything about 4G? I know that vividi?? and telstra is rolling it out. [07:13] It's just the next step in wireless. [07:14] I understand that. I think Vivid has it in operation, 'cause they have prices etc... And telstra is still in testing phase. [07:16] http://www.vividwireless.com.au/home [07:18] Depends on what you call 4g as well, there are a few different things people talk about when referring to "4g" [07:19] WiMax, LTE, HSPA+, etc. [07:21] I know... lol damn techno stuff [07:22] What would you consider as 4g, head_victim? [07:22] 4G is a standard, not a technology ;) [07:24] I'll be waiting 12 months or so after it's available to get it mind you. I'm a slow adapter due to price constraints. [07:25] me too lol [07:25] I'm the sort of person that researches the "free" phones they offer on plans and picks the best of them. If it costs me more I'm not interested. [07:27] i like buy phone and go on prepaid :D [07:27] I don't see the point, prepaid would cost me similar to what I'm on now. But everyone uses different amounts I guess. [07:28] i try to buy cheapest from overseas for phone usually. :D [10:28] head_victim, ping [10:35] sagaci: pong [10:36] is there a way to control what goes on the planet feed by tags or something, since I realise that stuff that I post may not be in the interest of some readers [10:37] Ah yeah, you have to use the feed to control it [10:37] But that being said, the planet isn't strictly on topic either [10:38] hmm ok [10:52] sagaci: don't worry about that too much. It's the nature of planet feeds. [10:55] head_victim, http://www.whereis.com/?id=5C5DFD02C2DB3, the end point being the current location for the syd release party... do you think that the other "ampersand" venue would be better? [10:58] I'm just thinking in reference to public transport.. however I'm also thinking it's too late to change and besides, it's not that much of a change to encourage people to come along [11:06] Hmm, I only get a map of Australia with that link [11:08] nvm [11:09] I'll stick with the original since I've got potentially 3 registered in attending [11:09] I'll dent/tweet about them this week as well [11:11] righteo, I might be on later [13:03] Hmm topic is too big as it is [13:03] Well, just soy ou all know, we're official again!. [13:43] thanks for the email [13:43] holy sh... [13:44] good news [13:46] Long time coming but worth it [13:52] congrats fellas oh and hai [13:52] \o. [13:53] hi jargonfactory [14:02] hi sagaci, head_victim, gorilla, and friends :D [14:02] hi xannen [14:02] Evening [14:02] I really should be asleep by now :/ [14:03] On that note, I shall trundle off to bed. Night all. [14:03] Go knock yourself then. Or can I do it. :D [14:03] later [14:04] I was just about to go to bed when I was told we were approved again so I just had to tweet/dent/email/forum/fb/etc it [14:04] heh [14:05] lol socmed [14:21] dpkg, dpkg-dev, dselect, apt-all, libapt-pkg, xkeyboard-config, shared-mime-info and e2fsprogs [14:21] to be done by thursday [15:10] sleeping yet? [15:12] about to [19:49] Morning