[00:47] is anyone here having display problems with lightdm+unity-greeter? [00:47] robert_ancell: what kind of problems? [00:48] jasoncwarner_, there are reports of wrong resolutions being used, and corrupt screens. Mine works fine here [00:48] robert_ancell: I've not seen or heard those myself [00:49] bug 813566 [00:49] Launchpad bug 813566 in unity-greeter "Greeter not displayed correctly on multi monitor setup" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/813566 [00:51] robert_ancell, just tested multimonitor with lightdm on arrandale Friday and it was working dandy for me [00:51] bryceh, Doe this indicate anything to you? http://ubuntuone.com/2mtu72aL9iryaLmhUoqp9x [00:52] the window is clearly being displayed too high [00:52] yeah [00:52] but unity-greeter is just getting the monitor co-ords from GDK and using them [00:52] robert_ancell, xrandr -q output available? [00:52] (one sec; baby needs tending) [00:54] robert_ancell: oh, weird, I have the exact same laptop and don't get that problem [00:55] robert_ancell, the aspect ratio on that looks odd, but is there one or more external monitor's attached? [00:57] bryceh, one afaik [00:58] bryceh, one thing that might occur is I'm not checking the "monitor-changed" signal. In the default behaviour of gnome-settings-daemon+X would you expect much to change? [01:03] robert_ancell: just did a quick check on my x201s here with an external monitor on VGA. Starting lightdm with an external monitor plugged in sets the external monitor as clone with both at 1024x768. [01:03] stgraber, that's the same I get. And removing and replugging the monitor has it blank with lightdm on the original screen [01:03] robert_ancell: plugging the external monitor once lightdm is already running, extands the display to the external monitor with both running at their maximum resolution (1440x900 for my laptop and 1920x1080 for the external monitor) [01:04] right, we have the same behaviour. Which is pretty weird as I'd have expected to be hit by the same bug you showed above, having the same hardware... might be caused by whatever modes the external monitor announces then [01:05] another idea is that X has laid out the second monitor to the right with them both bottom aligned, and unity-greeter has placed the window at (0,0) [01:46] hey RAOF , have you started digging into bug #824099 (g-s-d multi-monitor) bug yet? wondeirng what you thought if you had [01:46] Launchpad bug 824099 in gnome-settings-daemon "Max GL texture size can break multi-head" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824099 [01:48] jasoncwarner_: I have, and am halfway through a gnome-desktop patch which should implement the policy we decided. [01:48] RAOF: oh, sweet! [01:48] * RAOF updates the bug status. [01:57] weird, I just did an update and my firefox search is now ask.com? [01:58] micahg or chrisccoulson do you know anything about that? ^^ [02:04] bummer, I failed at blocking onboard from autostarting in gshell [02:06] This gnome-shell business of building everything in is just not right IMO... [02:08] it's also frustrating because NotShowIn:GNOME; blocks autostarting in GNOME Fallback which doesn't have all the new stuff Shell does [02:11] please make sure not to regress stuff in gnome fallback as it's one of the two supported environments for Edubuntu... (AFAIK gnome shell isn't going to be shipped by any of the official derivatives for 11.10) [02:12] stgraber: right, I think I'm going to just leave onboard as is and let it autostart, it's easy enough to close it [02:13] for 12.04 it might be interesting to see if we can have a different XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP for fallback or gnome-shell. So we can do OnlyShowIn=Fallback or similar [02:13] I don't want installing gshell to enable caribou for fallback as caribou-antler is a pain [02:14] I think Shell and Fallback are different enough that having a different XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP would make sense and will definitely help fixing a lot of the problems we've seen recently [02:36] robert_ancell, from the photo, Jane's laptop looks like it's offset +300 pixels or so. I'm not sure what would cause that. xrandr -q output might show something interesting, or enabling randr debug dmesg (sudo xdiagnose; first checkbox; reboot; dmesg) [02:37] robert_ancell, I notice the mouse cursor appears to be offset by the same amount I guess? So seems most likely a KMS bug of some sort. [02:37] bryceh, ok, cheers [02:37] robert_ancell, was a bug filed on this issue? [02:38] bug 813566 [02:38] Launchpad bug 813566 in unity-greeter "Greeter not displayed correctly on multi monitor setup" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/813566 [02:39] robert_ancell, hmm, the photo on that one doesn't match jane's... [02:40] robert_ancell, btw X defaults to mirrored, so the mirroring in this case may simply be because lightdm isn't adjusting things the way gdm does [02:43] robert_ancell, 813566 probably is kms as well. From the comments in the bug I wonder if gdm is "hiding" the issue when it does a randr operation. Would be interesting if just doing 'xrandr --auto' might refresh it properly. [02:45] robert_ancell, I've updated the bug report [02:46] bryceh, cheers [02:47] anyway, can help look into it more monday, need to go help with dinner [02:51] You know what would be awesome? If it didn't take like 300 lines of boilerplate code to nab GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE :) [03:11] jasoncwarner_: so, the ubuntu3 update was supposed to fix it but apparently didn't [03:14] jasoncwarner_: I can try to fix that in a little bit [03:19] micahg: thanks! [03:34] hey robert_ancell , I asked slangasek about text-free boot and flicker-free boot on shutdown and he mentioned that lightdm would need to be involved in that discussion....could you and he grab some time to talk through what needs to get done? not sure if we can make any wins now or if we have to wait to LTS [03:37] jasoncwarner_, sure. I suspect we'll have to wait until LTS though [03:39] robert_ancell: figured, but worth checking either wya...get a headstart on LTS ;) thanks. [03:40] oh, robert_ancell do you know what is causing the "flash" in either lightdm or unity-greeter on boot when it takes over from plymouth? [03:40] jasoncwarner_, it's the X window being drawn, but the unity greeter not being able to write over it fast enough. It's because we don't have compositing inside the greeter X server [03:41] the latest version sets the background color to purple so it's not very visible [03:41] oh, nice, ok.. [03:42] oh, that is what steve was mentioning, probably, that you have in a branch...ok [03:42] I'll give that a go when it gets uploaded. Is that today or tomorrowish? [03:44] tonight hopefully, seb thought it might need a ffe though [03:48] This would all be much simpler if I could assume querying MAX_GL_TEXTURE_SIZE wouldn't SIGSEGV on a small, but substantial, number of systems. [04:07] jasoncwarner_: I think this issue only affects people that upgraded yesterday [04:10] micahg: good to know for general release...easy fix for those effected? [04:10] not sure, I still have to verify the issue, on my machine that I went from beta 6 to ubuntu3, there was no issue [04:11] err, rather firefox 7.0~b6+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 -> 7.0+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 [04:11] micahg: ok..thanks! [04:35] jasoncwarner_: after further investigation, this only affects people who upgraded to7.0+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 going from ubuntu1 to ubuntu3 is fine, do you think this is still critical to fix? [04:35] micahg: which build did people have for beta2 [04:35] ? [04:36] jasoncwarner_: the 7.0 beta 6 build [04:36] ubuntu2 was uploaded 17 hours ago, ubuntu3 7 hours after that [04:37] micahg: what I'm really asking is would beta2 people be effected? most people wait to upgrade until beta2, so fi they are, that # could be high. Probably not "critical", but depending on the # of people... [04:37] jasoncwarner_: well, upgrading from beta 2 shouldn't be affected, people who have already upgraded and have been upgrading every few hours could be affected [04:38] micahg: not critical to fix, would be nice to get those people sorted...or offer instructions to fix [04:39] micahg: for instance, how do I get canonical affiliated google search back in my firefox? [04:39] jasoncwarner_: since you're affected can you see if removing firefox and then reinstalling fixes it? [04:39] micahg: sure...just sudo apt-get remove firefox? [04:39] jasoncwarner_: yep [04:40] jasoncwarner_: I upgraded, lost my search plugins, updated again, and everything came back [04:41] jbicha: you probably didn't upgrade to the ubuntu2 revision then [04:41] micahg: I'm using that version now, what's wrong with it? [04:42] micahg: yup, removing and reinstalling worked fine [04:42] jbicha: you're using ubuntu2 or ubuntu3? [04:43] micahg: apt-cache policy says I'm still on ubuntu2 [04:43] jbicha: weird, if you upgrade to ubuntu3 what happens? [04:44] jasoncwarner_: we could send out an e-mail to u-d-a [04:45] but post beta 2 there might a lot of people not reading that [04:49] micahg: yeah ubuntu3 busted the searchplugins again [04:49] fun [04:50] chris wasn't supposed to be working today!... [04:50] jbicha: can you tell me what ls -l on /usr/lib/firefox-7.0/searchplugins and /usr/lib/firefox-addons/distribution/ [04:51] * micahg has to run out in 10 minutes [04:52] micahg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/697048/ [04:53] jbicha: and this /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins [04:54] micahg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/697049/ [04:54] jbicha: here's the one: /usr/lib/firefox-7.0/distribution [04:56] Hi, all. Is there a way to change my default desktop from Gnome to Unity via the command line or an application available after login from the Gnome desktop? [04:57] micahg: that folder's empty here [04:57] jbicha: it's a folder, no link, right? [04:57] micahg: yes [04:58] jbicha: awesome, thank you [04:58] jasoncwarner_: I have to run out now, but I can upload a fix in ~2 hrs that'll catch everyone up [04:58] micahg: works! thanks [04:59] jasoncwarner_: you're welcome [05:12] jasoncwarner_: ehm, more precisely, I have a change already staged in lightdm to fix flicker-free shutdown and need to sync up with robert_ancell to find out what's going on with what he currently has staged in bzr :) [05:12] but I seem to have bad timing :) [05:29] slangasek: even better, I guess! [05:31] good morning all .... what's the word on the street? how's Oneiric looking? [05:32] Good morning [05:35] morning pitti and rickspencer3 [05:35] rickspencer3: more efficient with better access to the internet ? (southpark bill gates quote for those who might not get it) [05:35] hey jasoncwarner_ [05:36] pitti: the boot chart for the dell looks much better today...getting there! http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/boot-speed/dell-vostro-3400/index.html [05:38] jasoncwarner_: indeed! desktop is down to 1/3 [05:38] pitti: :) [05:38] morning didrocks [05:38] hey jasoncwarner_ [05:40] jasoncwarner_: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/boot-speed/samsung-n150/index.html looks really weird, though [05:40] the variance in plumbing, I mean [05:40] that's very unlikely to be caused by package updates [05:41] oh, seems they don't properly initialize ureadaahead [05:41] pitti: what do you think of including gnome-font-viewer on the CD? it was in Natty bug 839407 [05:41] Launchpad bug 839407 in gnome-utils "gnome-font-viewer missing in oneiric" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/839407 [05:41] and good morning [05:43] hey jbicha [05:43] jbicha: sounds ok to me; can you please write that rationale to the bug and retitle it for FFE? [05:46] pitti: so we can't really believe that one, then, right? hope the dell is all good [05:47] pitti: I thought it was weird that the samsung only saw a 3s gain in desktop where the dell saw roughly 15s [05:47] jasoncwarner_: in e. g. http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/boot-speed/dell-vostro-3400/2011-09-22_16-50-38/bootchart.png clearly did something, but there's still quite a lot of IO going on afterwards [05:48] jasoncwarner_: it depends on the video driver [05:48] jasoncwarner_: as e. g. ati is exceptionally slow in randr probing (driver issue, presumably), the reduction from 6 to 1 probes helped a lot more :) [05:49] pitti: true... [05:51] pitti: yes, there's a ureadahead init problem in there for sure [05:51] or was; maybe it's addressed in the latest runs? [05:52] perhaps, for now I'm happy to write off the variance as "noise during initial setup" [05:54] * slangasek nods [06:03] pitti, are those boot charts for reals? [06:04] * rickspencer3 dist-upgrades [06:05] rickspencer3: the reduction of desktop startup time? yes, they are [06:05] sweet! [06:06] hey didrocks I'm using desktop PPA and I've been sporatically seeing both dash and alt+tab going behind windows [06:06] not as often as before desktop ppa, but still happans [06:07] jasoncwarner_: there is no more need for the desktop ppa btw, but if you still have stacking issues, I think it's for sam. Do you want to open a bug? (I didn't see any new since the push) so that I add the relevant targets? [06:07] didrocks: I'll remove desktop pa then... [06:08] didrocks: I haven't opened bug, was going to check with you first. I'll do that now. [06:08] jasoncwarner_: there is just a new u-l-m in it, nothing below that [06:08] jasoncwarner_: yeah, you are the first one to report it, did unity crash and respawn in your session by any chance? [06:08] didrocks: not that I saw...let me check my crash logs [06:09] jasoncwarner_: just a guess why your internal stack state went out of sync [06:09] hey pitti, how was your week-end? [06:09] didrocks: no, doesn't look like unity crashed...though I do have a compiz crash log [06:10] didrocks: lots of travelling, but nice! the Queen musical on Friday was amazing, and lots of family time on Saturday [06:10] jasoncwarner_: ok, just open a bug then (and clean the compiz crash log or report it ;)) [06:10] great :) [06:15] jasoncwarner_, didrocks I'm *not* using the desktop PPA on my netbook, and I haven't seen the z-order issues in a few days [06:15] fwiw [06:16] rickspencer3: great, just happens with jasoncwarner_ it seems though [06:16] rickspencer3: I hope most people don't! :) [06:16] jasoncwarner_, perhaps you are not up to date? [06:16] didrocks: I'm special...ask robert_ancell about me and lightdm ;) [06:16] didrocks: fyi..https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/859405 [06:16] Ubuntu bug 859405 in compiz "More Unity (Launcher, Dash) and alt+tab stacking issues" [Undecided,New] [06:16] jasoncwarner_: heh :) [06:16] if it happens to jason, it'll happen to other people [06:18] ok, sam is already aware [06:18] thanks, didrocks ... [06:19] didrocks: yeah, saw that...hope is just a really, really obvious minor case! [06:19] they just didn't open bugs to track, adding jasoncwarner_'s to track it [06:25] pitti: I transformed an old tracking issue to a FFe as a contributor worked on it: bug #814610. If you can have a look, I opened because I think it's a regression in Oneiric [06:25] Launchpad bug 814610 in unity "FFe: Since showing devices in Nautilus is removed, there is no way to format an usb stick" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/814610 [06:27] didrocks: hm, I don't see unmounted USB devices in the launcher any more; should I? [06:27] that seems to be a prerequisite for doing anything with usb devices [06:27] pitti: really? last time I check, they were [06:27] * didrocks try to get one [06:27] hm [06:27] now it works, of course === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [06:28] didrocks: Disk Utility can format USB drives, it may be a bit complex though [06:28] palimpsest is not too bad for this indeed [06:28] I don't think we need a format option right in the launcher [06:28] pitti: you're right, sometimes it's still in the launcher, sometimes not… [06:28] ok, let's pend that for later then, commenting on it [06:29] don't want to make re-formatting too easy, hate to misclick on that one... [06:30] jbicha: the design team seemed to be in favor of a quicklist item though [06:32] hmmm [06:32] Sweetshark, libreoffice is not opening for me :/ [06:32] jasoncwarner_: fix uploaded [06:33] micahg: thanks! [06:34] jasoncwarner_, is libre office working for you today? [06:34] it ran the recovery dialog for me, then won't open :/ [06:36] rickspencer3: yeah, I don't have any issues with it opening...haven't used it much today...are you opening libreoffice, writer, something else? [06:36] aloha [06:36] jasoncwarner_, libreoffice [06:36] I started with impresse, but nothing works [06:36] * rickspencer3 logs bug [06:37] rickspencer3: what happens if you launch from command line? any error? [06:37] pitti, jasoncwarner_ $ubuntu-bug openoffice.org? [06:37] GunnarHj: FYI, .check_output() doesn't need any wait() etc., that already should be race free [06:37] there doesn't seem to be a libreoffice package [06:37] rickspencer3: libreoffice-writer [06:37] oops, never mind, there it is [06:37] there is no libre-offce ;) [06:40] any opinion on bug 859416 before I ask the mailing lists? [06:40] Launchpad bug 859416 in gnome-session "UIFe: Rename GNOME Classic to GNOME Fallback & GNOME to GNOME Shell" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/859416 [06:42] Sweetshark, I'll leve this here for you when you get in: bug #859422 [06:42] Launchpad bug 859422 in libreoffice "libreoffice will not open" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/859422 [06:44] pitti: It was not for that function I tried using wait() etc., but for subprocess.Popen. OTOH, at http://docs.python.org/library/subprocess.html#convenience-functions you see the comment "Wait for command to complete" for the two other convenience functions, but not for check_output(). [06:44] jbicha: maybe a little late for translators [06:44] pitti: In any case it didn't wait long enough. :) [06:45] didrocks: it could wait until next cycle if it's too much now [06:45] c [06:46] jbicha: I'm ok with the change (for next cycle), seems to make sense, just wondering about edubuntu which will run a "fallback" session by default. Doesn't seem attractive :) [06:47] I believe Edubuntu uses Unity by default but Fallback is included but I haven't installed Edubuntu in a while [06:48] kamstrup: good morning, could you please check https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/857931 ? is unity using the dbm file yet? [06:48] Ubuntu bug 857931 in software-center "software-center crashed with DBAgainError in _dump_bsddbm_for_unity(): (11, 'Resource temporarily unavailable -- unable to join the environment')" [Undecided,Confirmed] [06:54] mvo: it uses it since Thursday [06:55] ta [07:00] jbicha: BTW, the firefox fix should be built available in ~2 hrs [07:01] hum, thunderbird crashing [07:01] and restart doesn't restart it, let's see [07:05] mvo: checkin [07:06] mvo: are you post poning db dump until the ui is mapped? [07:06] mvo: but the exception looks pretty odd... [07:07] kamstrup: the exception looks like something else tries to write to it or that the env is opened wrongly [07:07] kamstrup: I'm trying to reproduce currently [07:10] pitti: FYI, I tried on Friday to start doing the french respin, but I got bug #857494 on lb [07:10] Launchpad bug 857494 in live-build "package in config/chroot_packages/ isn't installed in the chroot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857494 [07:12] mvo: it's probably a good idea to wrap the call to _dump_bsddbm_for_unity() in a "try/catch Exception" as we have no clear picture of what Exceptions bsddb.db might throw at us === jpds_ is now known as jpds [07:12] mvo: uhhh, interesting... the report says EcryptfsInUse: Yes [07:13] kamstrup: ohh [07:13] mvo: with zzg for example we've had tonnes of weird errors for ppl with EcryptfsInUse: Yes [07:13] micahg, hey, is the security team happy with lightdm + unity-greeter? [07:14] kamstrup: it seems like it has issues writing to FS with no mmap support like nfs, ecryptfs seems to be common among the dupes too [07:14] kamstrup: I have a ecryptfs laptop, I will try on that now [07:15] robert_ancell: that question would be better directed at mdeslaur [07:15] mvo: there's a bsddb.db.DB_NOMMAP flag you can pass to db.open() [07:15] mvo: but that would be a perf hit of course [07:16] kamstrup: thanks, I see if I can reproduce it here first, performance should be ok(ish) as its in its own thread (so its as good as the python thread implementation … ) [07:17] mvo: ok, ping me when/if you find something. I may need to add a re-try-open-without-mmap() branch to the apps lens then [07:18] didrocks: right, that's known; I reported that to Debian and it got fixed there, but unfortunately we didn't merge [07:18] jasoncwarner_, you still get the issue with ubuntu3? [07:18] pitti: ok, I'll try to have a look tomorrow at it then [07:18] chrisccoulson: the firefox issue? I think it is all set [07:18] chrisccoulson: micah walked me through it [07:19] jasoncwarner_, you shouldn't need to remove and reinstall it though [07:19] it should have upgraded fine [07:19] if it didn't then it's still broken [07:20] b'ah, upgrading from ubuntu2 -> ubuntu3 is broken because the version in the postinst script is wrng [07:21] pitti: have you seen the Zeitgeist FFe? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zeitgeist/+bug/856396 [07:21] Ubuntu bug 856396 in zeitgeist "FFe: Update to Zeitgeist-0.8.2" [Undecided,New] [07:21] didrocks: I updated the bug; my debian bug report has a simple workaround which we could upload (safer than a merge now IMHO) [07:21] kamstrup: not yet, still catching up [07:21] pitti: okidoki [07:23] pitti: ok, thanks! [07:45] mvo: any luck without the mmap()? [07:46] kamstrup: updated [07:54] kamstrup: no luck so far, but I think I need to modify/stop unity for a proper test as this is using the file in the "wrong" way [07:54] (well, may use it in the wrong way, its not entirely clear to me yet) [07:58] kamstrup: sync req done btw. launchpad timeout to close bugs though [07:59] didrocks, pitti: awesome! Thanks [08:02] good morning, eurobuntus [08:03] hey desrt, how are you? [08:03] hey desrt [08:03] desrt: "morning" desrt [08:03] didrocks: good, i hope :) [08:04] kamstrup: hey.. i don't think i got a chance to say welcome back yet :) [08:04] seb128: i think i solved that mime mess [08:04] seb128: (good morning, btw) [08:04] ;) [08:04] desrt: lol, thanks :-) [08:04] seb128: testing appreciated!! [08:04] hey desrt pitti didrocks kamstrup [08:04] bonjour seb128 [08:05] salut seb128 [08:05] desrt, oh, nice, sure I can do that [08:05] seb128: it's one of those "wtf is this so complicated?!" fixes [08:05] 1 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 39 deletions(-) [08:05] ;-) [08:05] probably means i failed to understand something important [08:05] but i'll run it by cosimo when he's awake [08:06] desrt, run it by alexl rather [08:06] seb128: cosimo is the one that introduced all these changes [08:06] well cosimoc might know was well [08:06] desrt, oh ok [08:06] seb128: trouble entered here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=636311 [08:06] Gnome bug 636311 in gio "appinfo: tweak application positioning for content-types" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [08:08] oh, they already rolled a stack for 3.2 tarballs [08:08] seb128: still working on some critical bugs, but can join the packaging fest this afternoon [08:08] pitti, ok, thanks [08:08] didrocks: how's that getenv() pain treating you? [08:09] desrt: we talked about it, it seems that the unset done after all the initialization aren't needed, so for this cycle, we can maybe remove them (seems safer) [08:10] njpatel: I didn't follow if API removed the reset after init() already? Can we put that in this release? ^ [08:10] kamstrup: this is funny, after removing ~/.cache/software-center/reviews.ubuntu.com_reviews_api_1.0_review-stats-pkgnames.p__4.8.db.dbenv/__db.* its all fine again with no code changes [08:10] mvo: wow, scary... [08:11] didrocks, desrt i'm going to shuffle around what happens inthe main() today so we don't do a g_unsetenv after launching gdbus stuff [08:11] which seems to do the trick, but we'll know after more people test it, of course [08:11] njpatel: excellent. [08:12] njpatel: we're going to look at doing a better job of fixing this properly during the next cycle [08:12] it's a bit of a disaster right now... [08:12] anyone know about automated testing of ubiquity? [08:13] AlanBell: the package has a few tests which are run during package build [08:13] can we turn that off now? [08:13] AlanBell: but the full integration testing is done by our QA team, i. e. they inject keystrokes etc. to perform a fully automatic install [08:14] it is abusing the a11y interfaces, and breaking it iall [08:14] AlanBell: err, what? [08:14] why would we disable the test suite? [08:15] bug 781385 [08:15] Launchpad bug 781385 in ubiquity "Ubiquity GTK should have useful accessible names set in the Glade .ui files instead of using the variable names" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/781385 [08:16] because there is code in it which deliberately overwrites the accessible name of every widget with the variable name [08:16] so it reads out junk, and it masks the useful and possibly translated actuall stuff it is supposed to read [08:16] and the only reason the test suite works is because the a11y interfaces exist [08:17] so abusing them in this way is a bit harsh to say the least [08:17] AlanBell: ah, can you please discuss that with ev? [08:17] AlanBell: right, it is; wasn't aware of this, usually test suites ought to use the actual accessible names, not some placeholder junk [08:18] yup [08:19] I cannot pair my oneiric with the N900 over bluetooth [08:20] it says connection refused (error 111) [08:20] is there a known but about this? [08:21] desrt, yeah i was reading the bug report, sounds like a fun thing to fix ;) Thanks for looking into it, dude [08:28] kamstrup: bzr diff -r 2433..2434 lp:software-center <- my change, you may consider ommiting the mmap stuff as well as it will probably fail on nfs/afs mounts [08:28] xclaesse, not that I know about no [08:32] kamstrup: but I'm not sure if this is good enough, it seems to be all too easy to get into this state again [08:52] tseliot, hey [08:53] hi seb128 [08:53] tseliot, bug #855943 might be something for you [08:53] Launchpad bug 855943 in fglrx-installer "Installing then uninstalling FGLRX makes Oneiric's Unity unbootable" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/855943 [08:53] tseliot, just pointing it since I crossed it while doing some triage [08:54] seb128: I'll have a look at it, thanks [08:54] mvo: even with mmap() disabled? [08:54] tseliot, thank you [09:00] bug #859422 sounds a lot like bug #859112 however I cant reproduce it here. did you have anything suspicous going on on update? [09:00] Launchpad bug 859422 in libreoffice "libreoffice will not open" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/859422 [09:00] Launchpad bug 859112 in libreoffice "No icon for .ods files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/859112 [09:02] rickspencer3: do you have the libreoffice desktop files? e.g. /usr/share/applications/libreoffice-writer.desktop? [09:03] hi Sweetshark [09:03] let me grap that 'puter and see [09:04] Sweetshark, yes, they are all there [09:06] pitti: I guess bug 855396 is still not fixed, even after the last upload [09:06] Launchpad bug 855396 in jockey "Jockey doesn't provide fglrx-updates" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/855396 [09:06] rickspencer3: does libreoffice launch from a terminal? [09:06] Sweetshark, nope [09:06] I can try again, hol don [09:07] Sweetshark, it's not launching or returning to the command line [09:07] btw, it works fine on this puter [09:08] rickspencer3: hmmm [09:08] rickspencer3: what does "strace libreoffice" say? does it hang somewhere?? [09:10] http://paste.ubuntu.com/697150 [09:10] Sweetshark, ^ [09:11] rickspencer3: thats looking good in general (the splash does not seem to have any issues trying to bootstrap the app). [09:12] rickspencer3: could you try to mv/rm -rf ~/.libreoffice and try again? [09:13] you want me to delete ~/.libreoffice, right? [09:13] rickspencer3: right, delete it or move it somewhere else. [09:13] I deleted it [09:13] still not working [09:16] does /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin start? if not,could you strace it? [09:16] (well, if it hangs) [09:18] Sweetshark, well, soffice.bing was running [09:18] and when I killed it, the splashscreen opened [09:18] I clicked through the recovery dialog [09:18] and now, nothing [09:19] though soffice.bin and libreoffice are both active processes [09:20] Sweetshark, I killed both processes, ran libreoffice from the command line, and it all seemed to work again [09:20] rickspencer3: right. [09:20] *sigh* [09:20] Sweetshark, it works from the dash again [09:21] sorry, did I jump the gun and blow away the state you needed? [09:21] rickspencer3: nah, its ok. [09:24] rickspencer3: those are damn hard to rootcause. The soffice.bin is running but unresponsive, thus the starter scripts think everything is fine. I would have needed the state of the unresponsive soffice.bin to dig deeper, but even then it might have been hard to find the real issue. [09:25] Sweetshark, ok, I'll let you know if I see it again [09:26] vuntz, there? [09:27] rickspencer3: maybe the starter script should try to talk to soffice.bin and if it doesnt answer complain to the user (like firefox does) so that the user can kill the stalled process. [09:27] seb128: yo [09:28] vuntz, how are you? [09:29] vuntz, unping, I was checking on "org.gnome.desktop.default-applications.office.calendar" which doesn't match dconf-editor path, but I just got confused [09:29] there is no "default" in dconf-editor [09:29] :-) [09:29] life is good! [09:29] great ;-) [09:30] didrocks: is sam going to get those changes for compiz today for final upload? wasn't sure on timing [09:31] jasoncwarner_: there should be a new tested tarball today yeah. Not sure it contains stacking fix though [09:32] didrocks: ah, ok...today is final upload for final freeze, right? if stacking fix isn't there next chance would be SRU? [09:32] jasoncwarner_: well not sure == "no your fix" anyway as he's aware about it, but don't know what produces it [09:32] jasoncwarner_: for compiz, I guess it's today latest chance, maybe Thursday if something new urgent appears. Then SRU, right [09:33] didrocks: ok, thanks === mpt_ is now known as mpt [09:38] seb128: do you know if it's possible for g-c-c to only show one category (or to start scrolling to one category?) [09:38] didrocks, I don't think it is [09:38] didrocks, why? [09:38] seb128: design request it. [09:38] well, not for this cycle [09:39] yeah, answering that [09:39] thanks [09:39] despite, the g-c-c window is pretty small, I don't see the gain [09:39] indeed [09:48] hello [09:48] and once we fix the duplicate ubuntu one icon, it'll be even smaller :) (it takes a whole extra row in teh default size) [09:48] rodrigo_: ^ is that on your radar, or need help with this? [09:48] pitti, it's being fixed by dobey, yes [09:48] pitti, so yes, on my radar :) [09:48] vuntz, hum, something changed in libgweather, it doesn't install the html documentation in 3.2 when not using enable-gtk-doc [09:48] didrocks: also, categories are a bit mixed up right now, so that would confuse even more [09:48] vuntz, where that worked in 3.1.3 [09:49] didrocks: e. g. keyboard layout is in personal, while keyboard settings are in hardwarew [09:49] hey rodrigo_ [09:49] (it's wrong to have two icons for this in the first place, but *shrug*) [09:49]