dholbach | good morning | 06:42 |
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Rhonda | duh? bug #850347 | 07:53 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 850347 in spl (Ubuntu) "Please sync spl 1.0~pre6-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850347 | 07:53 |
geser | went something wrong in this bug? | 08:02 |
Rhonda | Yes, the usual issue, non-communication. %-/ | 08:05 |
Rhonda | geser: My comment should be in there already. | 08:12 |
geser | Rhonda: saw it right now, looks like dtchen forgot to check other open bugs while working on the FTBFS. And unless you follow oneiric-changes there is no way to get notified about uploads | 08:14 |
Rhonda | geser: I like to differ, the PTS does/should mail out changes. | 08:14 |
Rhonda | I receive one for every irssi upload, and I received the mail for doko's upload. No clue why I didn't receive one for david's … | 08:14 |
geser | ah, I didn't know Debian's PTS can do it, LP can't (unless I missed something) | 08:15 |
Rhonda | And a "no way to get notified" is worrying to say the least, but I know the background why package maintainers aren't notified by default | 08:15 |
Rhonda | that is, Debian package maintainers :) | 08:16 |
Rhonda | But at least the multiarch patch could have been put into the BTS. | 08:23 |
Rhonda | I wonder why this multiarch path issue only lead to FTBFS in ubuntu but not in Debian? What would happen if I pull the patch into Debian, would Debian the FTBFS? | 08:49 |
geser | Rhonda: how far is Debian with multiarch compared to Ubuntu? I know there is also work ongoing in Debian but I didn't follow it closely. | 08:51 |
tumbleweed | geser: dpkg doesn't support it yet, and less libraries have been converted. But there are conversions happening | 08:53 |
Rhonda | Ah, then I take it Ubuntu aims to have multiarch support complete for oneiric, and thus has more pressure on the thing. | 08:57 |
tumbleweed | Rhonda: yeah, oneiric can run flash and skype without ia32-libs, already | 08:58 |
Rhonda | tumbleweed: actually, the benefit of that non-free reasoning eludes me :) | 09:16 |
tumbleweed | Rhonda: the simple benefit is that ia32libs is a monstrosity and should die :) | 09:18 |
Rhonda | that I can accept ;) | 09:18 |
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cjwatson | Rhonda: there are plenty of free lines of reasoning for multiarch (e.g. has the potential to greatly simplify cross-compiling), but they don't provide the same kind of pressure and landmarks and such | 09:41 |
Rhonda | I understand, but having html5 and mumble, using flash and skype as reasoning for getting multiarch done only gives me a reason to yawn. Sorry for being ignorant in that respect. :) | 09:47 |
Rhonda | Though, granted, mumble requires a dedicated server. I really would like to have voice calls/conferences based on XMPP to lift off. | 09:48 |
cjwatson | the point isn't what we use, it's what our users use ... | 10:12 |
cjwatson | and making the support for non-free software be less of an imposition on free software developers' time is a good argument I think | 10:12 |
cjwatson | ia32-libs really is a nightmare ... | 10:13 |
Rhonda | "it sounded like a good idea at that time" | 10:31 |
Rhonda | *runsandhides* | 10:31 |
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hrw | can someone help me with this dput error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/697245/ ppa upload | 13:07 |
hrw | worked earlier today | 13:08 |
hrw | nevermind - ppa started builds | 13:11 |
Rhonda | ignore it, it's common | 13:11 |
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Rhonda | Hmm. What would people think if I ask for a FFe for gitolite? Useful? Not so? | 13:41 |
Laney | what's new? | 13:42 |
Rhonda | "hooklets" allow you to have any number of site-local 'update hook' scripts play nicely with gitolite, the "include" statement can now use globs -- makes some types of setups sooooo easy!, but most of all: self-service key management | 13:43 |
Laney | sounds like it would be nice to have, indeed | 13:51 |
Laney | backporting is also an option and should be easy as there are no rdeps | 13:51 |
micahg | geser: DMB meeting? | 14:01 |
Rhonda | Laney: Of course actually I should finally do a backport to lucid. | 14:13 |
Rhonda | But, past experience with backports doesn't convince me that I want to go through it for oneiric if I can do it through a FFe beforehand. ;) | 14:13 |
Laney | well, I can approve them if not make the upload happen | 14:15 |
geser | micahg: today 19 UTC, right? I'm sure I can make it today (some servers at work need to get hooked up on a UPS) | 15:35 |
micahg | geser: no, was 14:00 | 15:36 |
geser | micahg: oh, I can't make the early meeting anyways as I can't predict if (and how much time) I can spare at work | 15:38 |
micahg | geser: ah, ok | 15:39 |
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micahg | mdeslaur: there seems to be an issue with the last flashplugin-nonfree upload, could you take a look, bug 859225 | 16:13 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 859225 in flashplugin-nonfree (Ubuntu) "package flashplugin-installer 10.3.183.10ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/859225 | 16:13 |
mdeslaur | micahg: argh, stupid mess... | 16:17 |
micahg | mdeslaur: yeah, but I'm talking about the packaging :) | 16:25 |
mdeslaur | /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so is not a valid NPAPI plugin | 16:25 |
mdeslaur | I don't know how that could be | 16:25 |
mdeslaur | ooooh, I get it | 16:26 |
mdeslaur | ok, I'll upload a fix | 16:26 |
micahg | mdeslaur: thanks | 16:27 |
jtaylor | hm where should one direct people who open bugs to ask questions? | 17:23 |
micahg | jtaylor: askubuntu.com? convert to question works as well, the greasemonkey script has a canned response which refers to askubuntu.com | 17:25 |
jtaylor | greasemonkey? | 17:32 |
jtaylor | mh some firefox thing ._. | 17:33 |
micahg | jtaylor: yeah, ppa:gm-dev-launchpad | 17:34 |
jtaylor | ah there is a button on lp to convert | 17:42 |
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