[01:54] /msg nickserv register t4m4d4 makushimu@ya.ru [01:54] uhoh [01:55] Hah [01:55] Yeah [01:55] :( [01:55] Embarrassing :) [01:56] I was trying to use irc from colloqui (sp?) seems it's not as flexible as, say, xchat [01:56] ;p [01:57] Was a throwaway password though, so I don't mind. [01:59] Live and learn :) [02:00] meeting time, we'll give folks a few minutes to show up :) [02:01] who all is here for the meeting? [02:03] 0/ [02:03] * MarkDude likes how the wording was used on agenda items within 24 hours was used. Very common sense. [02:03] Good stuff :) [02:03] yeah, sorry for not adding things in time this week [02:04] I dont check it till i get the email anyway myself [02:04] it's all known upcoming stuff though, so I didn't think it would be a big deal [02:04] Well the wording is perfect. last minute items with no debate, no issue, [02:04] #startmeeting [02:04] Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11September25 [02:05] [TOPIC] Oneiric Release plans: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/OneiricRelease [02:05] Use of word collaborate makes it clear WHY. Better than any suggestion I could have made [02:05] so far there aren't any plans for the Oneiric release [02:05] sd might have a party [02:05] I'm going to be out of town for the actual week of the release [02:06] so so cal should have something [02:06] (actually giving a presentation about it in Philly, and probably going to their release party ;)) [02:06] DarkwingDuck: ping [02:06] philipballew: cool :) [02:07] I'll drop a mail to the list reminding people it's coming up soon [02:07] pleia2, about how long after do cd's come? [02:07] philipballew: usually about 2 weeks [02:07] right. [02:08] then I ship them everywhere, which takes a day or two [02:08] DarkwingDuck, should have them and I can meet him at the uh or whatever [02:08] so I'll send a bunch down to you or DarkwingDuck probably the day after the shipment gets in [02:08] sounds good :) [02:08] he's gonna go to uds. will they show up before that? [02:09] yeah, I think so [02:09] we'll see how timing works out and go from there [02:09] any other comments about the release for now? [02:10] Hi, I'm here. [02:10] our next meeting is on the 9th,the release is on the 13th [02:10] Got caught up in my Colts game. [02:10] welcome DarkwingDuck [02:10] [TOPIC] Team Leadership Elections [02:11] DarkwingDuck: were you going to handle this? [02:11] Yes, I have zero notes. I'm on mobile right now. [02:11] pleia2: :) CA could always come visit their Northern Neighbor... We should have a keg, soft drinks and gourmet pizza again (fingers crossed) [02:11] :D [02:11] However, I get my working laptop tomorrow so, I will be sending an email about it very very very soon. [02:11] DarkwingDuck: can you put out a call for nominees this week? [02:11] ok, great [02:11] we need to get this rolling ASAP [02:12] aye, It will happen BEFORE wednesday [02:12] as a review, we have a team leadership document: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Leadership [02:12] * MarkDude nominates nhaines [02:12] Yep. It has been a fun year for me. But, I'm not going to run for reelection :) [02:12] elections are yearly, and we elect three people from around the state to co-lead [02:12] it's that time of year :) [02:12] o/ [02:13] MarkDude: nominating people is fine, but please confirm they are willing to stand for leadership before formally submitting their name [02:13] fair enough, makes sense [02:13] I'll be sending an email laying out the procedure. [02:13] (as in hi, not as in volunteering) [02:13] rww: haha [02:13] rww: Almost got ya [02:13] rww: too bad [02:13] He would make a great leader, I hope others encourage him also [02:13] pleia2, the job pays lots right? [02:13] haha [02:15] philipballew: hah [02:16] thanks for working on this DarkwingDuck :) [02:16] that's all we have for the agenda [02:16] [TOPIC] Announcements, etc [02:16] it pays with a warm fuzzy from the feeling of helping ;) [02:16] That's what that is? I thought it was indigestion. [02:17] Libertopia is getting rough... I'm having a hard time witht he funds... Being unemployed sux [02:17] But, I've been talking to a couple places for sponsorship. [02:17] would canonical help? [02:18] DarkwingDuck: maybe another note to the list asking for help? [02:18] pleia2: I was going to. [02:18] philipballew: they sent a conference pack, they don't give financial funding for booths beyond that [02:18] philipballew: I'm not sure... I can ask. [02:18] philipballew: care to share your blog post about the last SD ubuntu hour? [02:18] i sent in a request to omgubuntu 4 times to give us an article but no word yet [02:19] yeah. let me post it right here [02:19] 1 min [02:19] they did an article [02:19] philipballew: They did do it. [02:19] hum. you got a link? [02:19] Its in a ping back on my blog. [02:19] https://philipballew.wordpress.com/2011/09/21/ubuntu-hour-success-can-we-do-it-again/ [02:20] hooray san diego [02:20] It was awesome. 2 brand new people off the street! [02:20] :) [02:20] and that guy matt signed up on the email list [02:21] ok, I think we pretty much covered everything [02:21] anything else before we wrap up? [02:22] ok, I'll email the list reminding about the release, DarkwingDuck will email about leadership and Libertopia help [02:22] thanks everyone :) [02:22] #endmeeting [02:22] Thank yee kindly [02:23] * pleia2 > dinner [02:23] sees the article now, i remember seeing it [02:26] DarkwingDuck, what does the 400 cover? [02:27] the owner of the cafe is having us pay that? [02:27] Booth and mass printing. [02:27] I think 300 was the cost of the libertopia booth. [02:27] I'm going to call Jesse (Owner of the cafe) and see if they want to sponsor us. [02:28] he's the guy putting it on right? [02:28] No. [02:28] He is just involved. [02:29] hum, I made him really like me last time I was there when I told him i was a libertarian. [02:29] there are companies around who use linux in sd [02:30] Quallcomm is one [02:30] Oh yeah! [02:30] I'll call Kevin tomorrow [02:31] kevin said they run Ubuntu at their place in their open sorurce division [02:31] I need to call them. i was gonna see if i can interview a manager there who does tech stuff [02:32] sweet. If kevin could full that off... [02:32] i think kevin got a new number [02:33] well he texted me last week from one that i didnt have [02:33] brb [02:33] ight [02:37] * MarkDude is happy anytime a football game gets to 4th quarter and there is less than 7 points apart in socre [02:37] score. rww, I am talking about handegg, just to avoid confusion ;) [02:37] people watch that? [02:43] handegg besportevarr [02:44] oh dang i just missed the meeting [02:44] also dang how time flies. it's like we just did the last one [02:45] 'sokay, we didn't talk about much [03:26] pleia2: There is no ability to add images on Ubuntu US blog? [04:15] bkerensa: not at the moment, just email an image to me and I'll upload it somewhere on the server [04:16] * pleia2 sees note in post :) [04:19] the v6 internet is broken, I can't ping your server from the ubuntu-us.org server (I can ping you from elsewhere, and I can ping other places fine) [04:20] which server? [04:20] ps, why doesn't ubuntu-us.org have AAAA records? it's a linode isn't it :( [04:20] the quad a from benjaminkerensa.com [04:21] because canonical is difficult [04:21] I should nudge them again about quad as [04:21] I think that cloudflare thing he's using is just breaking it [04:22] probably [04:22] I can ping it fine from my personal linode, just not the ubuntu-us linode [04:22] i get one ping6 through and then it dies on my persona linode (which is IPv6ing) [04:23] --- 2400:cb00:2048:1::adf5:3c76 ping statistics --- [04:23] 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9001ms [04:23] ^^ from my linode [04:23] * pleia2 shrugs [04:23] no big, I just wgetted the file I needed via v4 ;) [04:29] * crashsystems hugs proxmox [04:37] if had some texmex i would so hug it [05:06] pleia2: might have a SF person dropping by asking for an Ubuntu CD shortly, from #ubuntu [05:06] or anyone else, I forget who's in SF here [05:06] pleia2: My ipv6 is down? [05:07] rww: we're out of pressed CDs (end of cycle and all) [05:07] rww: Mmm I cant talk about Cloudflare or IPv6 [05:07] ;) [05:07] pleia2: burned should be fine [05:07] for certain reasons [05:07] :P [05:08] Call it a unwritten NDA ;) [05:08] there should be some CDs at noisebridge [05:08] I'm not having an SF ubuntu hour in october (I'll be traveling too much) [05:08] they're being distracted in #ubuntu anyway by the look of it. oh well. [05:09] : [05:09] :) [05:10] pleia2: http://ipv6-test.com/validate.php <--- says my site is accepting ipv6 traffic across the board [05:10] :D [05:12] oi [05:12] rww sent me [05:12] grendal-prime, what do you need? [05:13] i have a brother...(not figuriative..actual genetic brother....) I need to get him a ubuntu disk [05:13] he is in san francisco [05:13] bkerensa: see above, it's accepting from some locations and not others, very odd behavior [05:13] Got a postal address? I can drop one in the mail to him tomorrow. He'll get it by Wednesday (I'm 90 minutes east of SF) [05:13] ubuntu-us.org couldn't get to it [05:13] Although I think there is a local place in SF he could easy get it from [05:14] wow [05:14] this is amazing.. [05:14] ok..ummm i have his address...hold on ill call him [05:14] if you're not comfortable giving out a postal address, I live in SF and could probably meet up somewhere to give him one [05:14] pleia2: Yeah.... I cannot say why (even though I know why) due to a promise not to talk about something :P [05:14] ah, there you go [05:14] Yeah, pleia2 can prawlly get it there faster than me, but I'm fine as a backup [05:15] bkerensa: doesn't bother me, I was just letting you know :) [05:15] pleia2, the only thing that would be more amazing was if you were a smoking hot female. [05:15] pleia2: Which Linode DC is US in? [05:15] WOW [05:15] but im not going to go there [05:15] =o [05:15] * pleia2 sighs [05:15] not smoking hot, sorry [05:15] hmmm...are you sure? [05:15] are you just being modest? [05:16] hah, if you are female, you are hot to 99% of the guys here ;-p [05:16] please don't go further down this path [05:16] moving on... [05:16] Ok, moving on [05:16] ok folkes...thank you for dealing with my banter [05:16] So, library or some public place for him to meet up could probably get him a CD in a day or two from pleia2, or if you want to get me a postal address I'll send it from work tomorrow AM and it'll be there by Wed. [05:17] seriously though he has been deling with a virus for over a week..can kill it..i told him.."look just install this..i will fix it all from remote...just do it" ...but the install he gets (through public wifi) is questionable and does not work. [05:18] so if i can get a verified disk to him at least i know that part is sain [05:19] and i got to tell you ...if someone can physically drop him off a disk...and say..."this is with love from your brother" dude...hhaahah that would be great.. [05:19] and a major score for our cause. [05:20] and ...i would say... i would return the favor to anyone who helps out for my region. [05:21] hello? [05:21] grendal-prime: you're welcome to put me in touch: lyz@ubuntu.com I live in the financial district [05:21] Just snagging some dinner [05:22] I can't drive there, work and all, but gladly postal mail it. Here's my postal info just to prove I'm not a freak or anything: http://roysdon.net/ [05:22] pleia2, right on man ill get his address... brb [05:22] still not a man :) [05:23] right on unit of humankind* [05:23] hehe [05:23] ok...thats ok...and..brobably a plus...i may have wine ..waiting for you [05:23] it is *so* cookies and milk time [05:23] brb [05:23] lol, no junk food for me. Bad influence [05:27] welll. they're 'digestives'. some britishy thing my mom saw at a store and wanted me to try. so they're at least marketed to be healthier than cookies. [05:27] anyway they taste good :D [05:28] haha, yeah, uh huh. Chocolate is good for my digestion too ;-) [05:28] yess :) [05:28] digestives <3 [05:28] gua: I had those for the first time when I was staying in dublin, they're yummy :) [05:29] found them here in SF at a british grocery [05:29] they make them with chocolate on one side, it is amazing [05:29] i could eat them forever [05:29] hehe [05:29] yeah i'm having ones like that [05:30] (I'm English, I could probably continue on this topic for a good hour) [05:31] Have any of you ever had Oregon Chai? [05:31] * bkerensa is addicted to the stuff [05:32] Unless you are going to drive some of those cookies to each of us right now and share, it's not very nice ;-p [05:32] * philipballew is hungry now... [05:32] bkerensa, you like dutch bros? [05:33] Mmm yes [05:33] not for coffee [05:33] I like their smoothies :D [05:33] * bkerensa rarely drinks coffee [05:33] I like them to. theu have them in nor cal where I am from [05:34] bkerensa, its more a dessert place imo [05:34] Nor Cal? [05:34] :D [05:35] * bkerensa is from Nor Cal :P [05:35] Born in Sac... Went to HS in Del Norte County... Lived in SF, Mendo all over really :) [05:35] ever herd of Auburn? [05:35] haha [05:36] its by roseville [05:36] Yeah [05:37] * philipballew actually has something slightly in common with someone here! [05:37] * bkerensa has been to nearly every area in California except San Diego [05:37] :P [05:37] There is a cloor waiting for you if your ever here [05:37] Roseville Toyota commercials still plague my mind :P [05:37] *floor [05:37] yeah, my friend works there... [05:38] the roseville auto mall [05:38] heh, glad to not watch regular TV and have to deal with commercials anymore, but I remember the Sacramento car commercials [05:38] Next time I go to CA I will likely hit up SF.... They have amazing Mexican food and Vietnamese Sandwiches [05:38] :P [05:38] Maybe also spend a week on the river near Redwoods National Park :D [05:39] I only watch hulu lately [05:40] it seems noce [05:40] *nice [05:42] bkerensa, If I go to OR. where's good places to go [05:42] Hmm depends what you like? [05:43] If you like nature then I suggest checking out the Oregon Caves or Multnomah Falls [05:43] im more into people of stuff the nature [05:43] Also Crater Lake [05:43] Well Euegene has a pretty hipster scene and so does Portland although I rarely go out unless I have to :P [05:43] I went to a giant waterfall ontsede portland once [05:44] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVmq9dq6Nsg [05:45] not sure what its called, but it was nice [05:47] someone called me a hipster last week [05:51] lol [05:51] Portlandia [05:52] :P that show gives Portland a bad name kinda idk [05:52] "{ [05:52] Portland is like a Mash of SF/Berkeley and a dash of LA [05:52] with bad politics to bootj [05:52] :P [05:53] its a pretty liberal area [05:53] in comparison with the country [05:54] Well as someone who lived in SF and other liberal places I think Portland often is confused as to what it is [05:54] On some issues they are super liberal and others not so much [05:54] :P [05:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3nMnr8ZirI <--- This is why I dont like going downtown much... Bike riders can be like that [05:55] Im doing critical mass this friday [05:56] :D [05:56] imho Bicyclists get special privileges [05:57] in Portland atleast [05:57] because they want more people to ride them? [05:57] lol at the vid [05:57] i own a road bike [05:57] i rode fixed sometimes, but there hard [05:57] there was a guy a month or two back who got hit on the sidwalk by a guy on a bike and injured bad and he called the police and they only sent paramedics because the city has a policy of not sending police if it doesnt involve a car [05:57] I bike/bus every day [05:58] * bkerensa rides bus [05:58] jroysdon, what kinda bike you ride [05:58] But I'm polite, but don't generally trust any stinking cars [05:58] nothing against clean or effiecient transportation... Just think the bicyclists up here have become elitist and the city puts them before everything else [05:58] Gary Fisher that a friend gave me when he upgraded [05:59] I think bicyclists who don't follow the rules of the road should get ticketed just like autos [05:59] ie: City of Portland is spending a few hundred million on buying bikes to lend to the public instead of building sidewalks that it has promised for over a decade [05:59] :P [05:59] nice! what kinda bike [05:59] * philipballew I try to be nice when I ride [05:59] Portland has more miles of unpaved roads and roads without sidewalks or crosswalks then like any other city in the U.S. [05:59] its insane [05:59] :D [05:59] philipballew, hah, shows what I know, I don't even know the model off the top of my head, I just ride it ;-) [06:00] haha, I just fixed mine. [06:00] there are streets that neighbors close off entirely to traffic because the potholes are the size of ponds and literally turn into ponds in the winter [06:00] I have a nice bike trail too if I want to skip the bus: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=215306314177140659342.0004a45fe48b07ced16c2 [06:00] re aligned the de-railer [06:01] This is what Portland roads are like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w7cV76gMvY [06:02] You know things have gone bad when a entire street is renamed Lake Carlton because the pothole turned into a lake :P [06:02] man, that's worse than most alleys here [06:03] why don't you make your elected officials deal with it? [06:03] they wont [06:04] they wanna build special bridges for bikes only that play music! <-- no joke and spend hundreds of millions on bike projects [06:04] well, we do both [06:04] $5M to put in a special bike bridge here. I'm not happy about the cost, but glad to have the bridge [06:05] Yeah well Metro/Portland is building a bridge literally to nowhere and they are spending a extra couple million just to make it so the bridge plays Simon and Garfunkel music when bikes go across it [06:05] hah [06:05] https://www.facebook.com/pages/Friends-of-the-Virginia-Corridor-Trailway/189870664359349#!/photo.php?fbid=244437085569373&set=pu.189870664359349&type=1&theater [06:11] wow - http://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/member/2011,2491/Ruari-Hallam-Wharncliffe,26714/dphilpott,8551?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=addthis#.ToAViDdA8HI.facebook [06:11] btw topic still has old meeting info [06:15] Portland is like the show Portlandia [06:18] * MarkDude has mustache classified as partially ironic at least- it is a bit disconcerting to hear the word hipster applied to oneself [06:23] :P [06:23] * bkerensa is anti-hipster [06:25] MarkDude: I found out how much a open bar tech party costs [06:26] The open bar alone costs roughly $10k [06:26] 2000+? [06:26] thats apparently how much it cost for the PuppetConf Ground Kontrol Open Bar and they were only serving beer [06:26] :P [06:26] Well it can if they dont have topshelf stuff [06:26] Geeks drink a bit [06:26] indeed [06:27] I also found out Ground Kontrol donates spaces to good causes ;) [06:27] hint = ubuntu loco's [06:27] * MarkDude was more anti hipster- until he realized the label applies to me- at least in a few minds. Not enough reason to shave the stache tho [06:28] Ground kontrol is great [06:28] MarkDude: I thought of you as Regal [06:28] :D [06:28] lol [06:28] MarkDude: Indeed nothing better than getting tipsy and playing Pac Man [06:28] :D [06:28] Or maybe the dude with the funny stache in Village people? [06:28] lol [06:29] How about getting hammered and pinball? [06:29] Oh MarkDude epic addition to the GK party... So me and a Ubuntu Oregon guy were arriving and there was some huge fight on the next street over lots of cops and as we walked to Ground Kontrol this guy decided he wanted to undress and walk up to the police [06:29] :P [06:29] * bkerensa muttered about how bad the economy is :P [06:30] I assume he needed a bed and some food [06:30] Well did the cops beat him? [06:30] no [06:30] or pretend they did not see him [06:30] he walked up and they kinda were like wth [06:30] lol [06:30] and told him to lay on the ground [06:30] :P [06:31] they gloved up and cuffed him and wrapped him like a tortilla in a blanket and put him in the car [06:31] :D [06:32] Surprised they didnt tase him [06:32] heh, so long as he didn't resist, no need [06:32] He approached them from behind [06:32] :D [06:33] clearly he was on something though [06:33] kinda popped up on them when they were questioning some people from a fight [06:33] :D [06:34] jroysdon: Or he needed a bed and food? Oregon is not like California.... Not much care for homeless people [06:34] No City Funded Shelters like in San Francisco [06:34] perhaps California needs more of a hardline stance though [06:34] Maybe [06:35] give them a bed, make them work for an hour to get food, then work for 4 more hours for lunch, 4 more hours for dinner, etc. [06:35] Most of the homeless that used to hangout in SF migrated to Portland though [06:35] They come here because panhandling laws and other things are less restrictive [06:35] of course, you can't dare make someone work for food [06:35] ah [06:36] President Obama will be in Mountain View tomorrow apparently [06:36] Well Eugene does not let folks panhandle at all [06:36] like banned [06:36] Like free speech os asking for money [06:38] odd [06:38] it's not allowed here, but we don't have enough police to enforce it [06:38] Oregon is a weird mix of law and beliefs [06:39] apparently if you bite someones ear off that is not assault with a deadly weapon although in most states it is [06:39] You can also do the assist suicide thing up here [06:55] Rather popular. There are waaaaaay too many stripclubs up there- sorta gross [06:58] Portland has the most strip clubs per capita of any city in the U.S. [06:58] and yeah its bad [06:59] are the all over, or on the fringes? We have one here, but it's like 5 miles out of town [16:11] nhaines: let me know if you dont want to run for Cali leadership. I plan on formally nominating you [16:24] :D [16:25] happy monday everyone! [16:29] nrrrggggg [16:34] 75 degrees today [16:35] its nice here, but i prefer dynamic weather [18:56] Looks like the DOD wants to compete with Ubuntu :P [18:56] http://www.spi.dod.mil/lipose.htm [18:56] new linux distro [19:03] It's been out for a while now. DistroWatch review from July: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20110704 [19:19] Helo. [19:19] hello [19:19] Hi [19:20] Don't mind me, I'm hunting rww down. :-) [19:33] * rww runs [22:50] DarkwingDuck: I am on the edge of my seat for the OMG I GOT IT tweet :) [22:52] pleia2: btw topic still has old meeting info [22:52] i dunno if that's on purpose or not [22:52] it's on the todo list for all post-meeting tasks, I haven't gotten around to post-meeting tasks yet, sorry [22:53] ah, that's ok. j/w [22:55] heh. first channel I've seen where UbuntuIRCCouncil is on the access list and staff isn't [22:56] that's because there have been 40 revisions to "what channels are supposed to have" :) [22:56] I never know! [22:56] lol [22:56] staff have super powers anyway [22:57] only five actually, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/CreatingChannels [22:57] I have been known to exaggerate [22:57] Mysql.com got hacked [22:58] yep [22:59] oracle open world is next week, just yesterday i was trying to find out what the libreoffice was to mysql's openoffice, and i'm pretty sure mariadb but i really don't know how active it is compared to mysql === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-ca to: Welcome to the Ubuntu California Local Community (LoCo) Team! | Webpage: http://ubuntu-california.org (has links to mailing list, forum, and more!) | Next Meeting: Sunday, October 9th, 7:00pm PDT | This channel is publicly logged at irclogs.ubuntu.com | We have an unlogged channel at #ubuntu-us-ca-offtopic [23:03] gua: I think MariaDB too, but I think the situation's less clear-cut or something than it is for LibreOffice. [23:04] yeah, since mariadb and mysql were always owned by a company [23:04] not so simple [23:05] yeah hm. with this opencore announcement stuff around mysql it got me to look into this. [23:05] then again, there are paid versions of mysql [23:05] the version everyone uses the the "community edition" and there have always been non-mariadb paid versions above that [23:06] i guess i'll wait to see what newer basic/beginner guides for setting up a LAMP server say [23:06] I'll just continue using whatever Ubuntu and Debian use. If it's in main, then shrug. [23:06] i guess people could still use mysql for a while if the community version is usable enough or mariadb isn't nice enough to switch [23:06] rww: same [23:07] rww: i thought that too, but what if they have *both* [23:07] gua: tasksel on Debian and Ubuntu has tasks for SQL database. Presumably they won't install two. [23:08] ah, i didn't know there was a task like that. that's good to know. [23:08] the tasksel displayed during the install sure leaves out a lot [23:08] or maybe Ubuntu just has LAMP or something. I dunno. [23:08] but the same applies [23:09] The install has LAMP, but tasksel has a billion.