/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/09/26/#ubuntu-us-or.txt

c_smithbleh, Kubuntu really is slick, but I like Unity too, don't see why people don't like it, well, actually I do.00:00
c_smithbut this is the 15th time Kwin has crashed... >.< so it's time for Ubuntu.00:01
c_smithalso, Ipod support in Amarok is horrid with the current Kubuntu KDE version00:02
c_smithbe back in a while00:02
nathwillenjoy :)00:02
ethani think a large part of the resistance to Unity is just b/c it is an immature project and people are also generally resistant to change00:02
nathwillyeah, you see the same railing against gnome300:02
ethanmy major concern is the inflating system requirements00:03
* nathwill nods00:03
nathwillhence the leap to minimal+openbox00:03
ethana user-friendly interface design does not require high system requirements00:03
ethanit requires good design, HIG00:03
ethani'm pretty excited about elementaryOS myself00:04
ethani think the underlying philosophy is absolutely right on00:05
ethanregardless of where they take it00:05
ethani hope more distros emerge in a similar manner00:05
bkerensanathwill: Do you use Empire Avenue?00:05
nathwillempire avenue?00:08
* nathwill agrees w/ the apparent promise of elementaryos00:08
bkerensanathwill: A Social Network Stock Market of sorts http://bit.ly/luWLZe00:11
nathwillwhy does it have a price under your name?00:11
nathwill:P00:11
bkerensabecause thats my value in the market00:12
bkerensaeveryone has a price00:12
bkerensa:D00:12
nathwilli see00:12
nathwilli hope the exchange rate is better than 1:1 or you're pretty cheap. ;)00:12
bkerensaLOL00:19
nathwillso i got that job00:21
nathwilli'm pumped00:21
nathwillprobably be flying to sunnyvale for training in the next couple months00:22
bkerensacool00:22
bkerensa:D00:22
bkerensa(/dev/pts/0) at 20:22 ...00:22
bkerensaThe system is going down for reboot NOW!00:22
nathwilloh noes!00:22
bkerensacloud is waking00:23
bkerensa:D00:23
nathwillhope you're using kexec-tools00:23
bkerensatoo many root or sudo shells :D00:29
nathwillit's so naptime... going home and passing out01:07
bkerensanathwill: tango down :P01:17
nathwilli will, waiting for this sql query to finish01:17
nathwill6 min so far...01:17
nathwillsome chump dba forgot to add a unique constraint to this field, and the devs forgot to check for pre-existing records during insertion, so... gotta clean up a massive table01:19
nathwilland i still don't know what hole in the app logic is getting these things in here, because i can't create a duplicate even if i try01:19
nathwillyaaaay01:20
nathwillit finished01:20
nathwillok... night all01:21
* bkerensa is listening to: DJ Khaled - - I'm On One (feat. Drake, Rick Ross & Lil Wayne) - (1:56/4:58)06:42
MarkDudeRick Ross- ggod look06:56
MarkDudegood06:56
MarkDudebkerensa: should go for similar- nuthin like waering gold chain with your own face on it06:56
bkerensalol06:57
* bkerensa is listening to: Michael Jackson - Bad - Man In The Mirror - (0:12/5:19)06:57
bkerensaBetter MarkDude?06:57
bkerensa;p06:57
MarkDudeNo07:00
MarkDudeRick ross was just a coke dealer that became a rapper07:00
MarkDudeMJ touched little kids07:00
bkerensa;p07:13
* nathwill yawns15:02
bkerensa=o15:05
nathwillit's too freaking early to be up and about :(15:07
bkerensanathwill: Perhaps.... I only need to be awake for a hour to make one call then I'm going back to sleep (I was sick all night)15:18
nathwilldon't rub it in15:19
bkerensalol15:20
bkerensaI'm not rubbing anything in.... I was up from 2am till now totally sick.... I thought I might have to go to the ER for awhile but luckily have pulled through15:20
c_smithgood morning.16:09
nathwillwell glad you're feeling better16:09
c_smithwho?16:12
c_smithme?16:12
bkerensa:D16:23
bkerensame16:23
c_smithoh, I see.16:24
c_smith'tis already almost October? man, this year just flew by......16:25
bkerensayep16:25
c_smithanywho, about 1 month away from having my monetary goal I want to reach before I get the parts for the PC I'm gonna build.16:28
c_smithquestion on that: is Fry's Electronics a decent choice for parts?16:29
bkerensaYes16:38
bkerensaThey do price matching16:38
c_smithcool17:21
Brian_Hmake sure you know what you want when you go in though ;) their staff isn't as knowledgeable as you might hope18:44
bkerensaBrian_H: http://www.spi.dod.mil/lipose.htm <-- Secure Linux18:56
c_smithyeah, I'm going in there next week to get a gauge of what I want and can get before I actually buy, and I'll bring a list of parts I'll need.18:58
c_smithbut thanks for the heads up on that.18:59
Brian_Hjust sayin :) guy tried to sell me a fan/heatsink for a processor that was substantially under powered18:59
Brian_H"oh yea this will work trust me"19:00
Brian_Hbkerensa: interesting reading now19:00
c_smithin around 2 months I'll have the money, might be one month. depending on if my estimate is correct, either way, it's within 2 months19:00
c_smithand I'm always sure to look at the actual packaging and see what the product actually is, rather than rely on salespeople. had too many buys that were junk not to.19:01
c_smithplus, I'll likely run Ubuntu on the PC. ;)19:02
c_smithanyway, I'll be idling for a while now, if you need anything from me, just let me know.19:03
bkerensaok19:07
bkerensaso we will be doing Release Party at PuppetLabs on Oct 13th I just got the thumbs up from our friends at PuppetLabs19:07
bkerensaWith such short time to plan I'm going to try and sort out some snacks/food although PuppetLabs will provide beverages19:08
* bkerensa starts mulling over who to reach out to for food 19:08
bkerensaBrian_H: Yeah I just made a USB with the iso and am gonna check it out19:09
bkerensaWe may also have some release party shirts.... I'm reaching out to a company who was interested in paying for some :)19:13
c_smithsounds awesome19:18
Brian_Hsweet I wish I could be there but I'll be Hawaii ;)19:20
bkerensaCool :D19:23
bkerensac_smith: Do you think you might be able to come?19:27
c_smithhopefully, trying to get someone who can take me.19:32
c_smithunfortunately, I don't know the Portland bus system well enough to want to risk trying to get there by bus.19:33
c_smithdo we have a page up for the event yet?19:33
c_smithbkerensa, do you have a time to the release party yet?19:39
nathwillwill there be a pony?19:39
c_smithbah, forgot I have school that day.... :(19:43
c_smithgranted I get out at around 11AM, it'd still be a stretch if it's too early19:43
bdmurraybkerensa: you mean Thursday right?19:51
c_smithbkerensa, it's likely I won't be able to make it, I have school until 11A, and there's only one guy here who can take me at that time, and he's the guy who does the grocery shopping, and the person who took me last time has work until 4 or 5 PM, so she won't be able to. be prepared for me not to come, but I'm gonna push as much as I can to come.19:52
c_smiththe guy who is the only possible one to take me also does most of the meals.19:52
c_smithif it was a weekend, I'd have a better chance making it.19:55
bkerensaYeah :)19:56
bkerensaWell PuppetLabs is a bit tied up19:56
bkerensabut dont worry we will plan on something soon19:56
bkerensabdmurray: Yep Thursday (My bad)19:56
bkerensanathwill: I can play Pony by Ginuwine if thats what it takes to get you to swing by ;)19:57
nathwillconsider it mandatory :D19:57
nathwillit can be our theme song19:57
bkerensaheh19:58
c_smithbkerensa, I honestly don't know how i'll make it on a thursday, weekdays are terrible for this type of stuff for most of us.19:58
bkerensanathwill: They have a projector so I can play He Man19:58
bkerensa:D19:58
c_smithif it was the saturday of, it would make it easier on most of us.19:58
c_smithschool=busy me on weekdays.19:59
bkerensac_smith: I know.... I dont make these dates :P 13th happens to be when release falls and I have no idea why Global Jam is on labor day weekend19:59
nathwilloh noes. i changed my mind. i ain't coming19:59
bkerensa:P19:59
nathwilli owe he-man money19:59
bkerensaI think Canonical has some odd ideas for scheduling things19:59
bkerensanathwill: :P19:59
c_smiththe previous Oregon release party fell on the saturday of.....19:59
c_smithif I read the email correctly.20:00
c_smiththey didn't do the party on that day for these reasons, but they did it the saturday after.20:00
c_smithbkerensa, take a look at the mailing list replies to that and you'll see what I'm talking about.20:01
bkerensaLet me shoot an e-mail and see if I can schedule it for the saturday20:01
c_smithok20:01
c_smiththat would make it more likely, but not 100%, but a heck of a lot better than thursday, which is when I have school.20:02
bdmurrayfor what its worth saturday is less likely for me because of family obligations20:02
* bkerensa passed the Saturday pitch to PuppetLabs20:03
bkerensa:D20:03
bkerensabdmurray: Understandable but I do got aim to please the masses and looks like people want a weekend thing20:03
bkerensaDoes anyone have a preference on time of day?20:04
bdmurrayI only saw 2 people say weekend I'm not sure how that equals masses20:04
c_smithbkerensa20:05
c_smithgonna check that.20:05
nathwilli have thurs-fri off, so i'm down for whatevah20:06
nathwillas long as i'm not out of town.20:06
c_smithif anything, it'll likely be closer to the time the Jam was.20:06
bkerensabdmurray: Well I even prefer weekend so thats three :P almost everyone has a 9-5 so Thursday evening would be rough plus we would likely only get a hour or two20:07
bkerensaWeekend is a negative20:09
c_smithdang..... :(20:09
c_smiththat would almost certainly count me out,20:09
c_smithschool=me missing it.20:09
bkerensaFriday, Saturday and Sunday PuppetLabs is booked20:10
c_smithand there isn't another place you know of?20:10
c_smithhate to have to ask that, but gotta cover all grounds.20:10
bkerensattyl I gotta go to ER having a bit of a issue20:15
c_smithbkerensa, if it would help, I call call Broadway Commons Coffehouse (the place I'm gonna suggest for a place for Willamette valley team member to hang out) and see if we could host this there, can't say they'd provide drinks for free20:15
c_smithdamn... missed the window. :(20:16
c_smiththis release party is not shaping up to be feasible for me..... :(20:16
nathwillfeel better bkerensa20:17
* bkerensa is back20:21
bkerensagonna wait a bit and see if I get better20:21
bkerensa=/20:21
bkerensaOHSU is like atleast a four hour wait so idk calling doc see what she thinks20:22
c_smithbkerensa, I hear ya, Doernbeckers and Shriners was always a long wait.20:23
bkerensaYeah20:23
bkerensaIf I was at OHSU  right now I would not be out of there till like 7pm20:24
bkerensa=/20:24
c_smithbut at least it's not the Social Security building, OHSU you at least have a chance at a small wait, Social Security is a guaranteed 1+ hour wait, check in, then another long wait.20:25
bkerensanot really now days doctors are super concerned about malpractice20:27
bkerensaso they run ever possible test20:27
c_smithbkerensa, however unlikely it is, since it's a Thursday for the party, there's a chance I might make it, a slim one, but at least it's not nothing. wish I didn't have school that day.... bleh.20:27
c_smithyeah, they do run a lot of tests out of that concern.20:27
bkerensaplus it would take a hour for OHSU to get a Gastroentonologist on-site and a anethesiologist20:27
c_smithdon't mention that! I have a jaw operation coming up after I get these braces off! I don't like thinking about it!20:28
nathwill:(22:36
nathwillbloody mysql.com hacked22:36
c_smiththat sucks22:51
bkerensanathwill: I got a nice mysql 5.5 shirt from the MySQL community manager :D22:56
nathwillyou should tell him his site gave me malware and get me one too22:57
nathwill:P22:57
bkerensaLOL23:02
bkerensawhen did you visit it?23:02
bkerensaHow did you get malware?23:03
nathwilluh23:03
nathwilli didn't23:03
bkerensa?23:03
nathwilli'm just trying to stir up the appearance of malcontent so i can get a free shirt23:03
bkerensalol23:03
nathwillnot that i don't already have enough tech co. shirts23:03
bkerensaI have 25+23:18
bkerensa:D23:18
c_smithbkerensa, don't expect to see me at the Release Party if it's thursday.23:19
c_smithlike I have said, it's a schoolday for me.23:19
bkerensaI'm trying to plan for a weekend23:20
bkerensabut it depends on what other venue I can find in Portland23:20
c_smithyeah, I'd offer up Broadway Commons Coffehouse if I had called them and if I knew people could get to Salem for it.23:21
bkerensaYeah... Its hard enough getting people to come to Portland Metro area and the majority of the people live in Portland Metro23:22
bkerensa:D23:22
bkerensanathwill: you around23:37
nathwillyessir23:37
nathwillhey, what was that url for the free s3 storage?23:38
bkerensaaws.amazon.com/free23:38
bkerensa:D23:38
nathwillthanks mate!23:38
* bkerensa has a tablet available today for sale if you know anyone interested23:38
bkerensa:D23:38
nathwillwhat tablet, what price?23:39
nathwillso can i use this aws stuff as a CDN?23:50
bkerensayeah23:51
bkerensaif you make a script to sync to S323:51
nathwillhrm23:51
nathwillso s3 is really what i'm looking for23:51
bkerensaLOL23:52
bkerensano23:52
nathwillcuz i don't really need the rest of this.23:52
bkerensaMaxCDN is23:52
bkerensa:D23:52
nathwilli don't understand23:52
nathwilllol23:52
bkerensaEC2 is a VPS/Cloud Instance23:52
bkerensaS3 is just web storage23:52
nathwillah23:52
nathwillwell then...23:52

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