[00:00] <c_smith> bleh, Kubuntu really is slick, but I like Unity too, don't see why people don't like it, well, actually I do.
[00:01] <c_smith> but this is the 15th time Kwin has crashed... >.< so it's time for Ubuntu.
[00:02] <c_smith> also, Ipod support in Amarok is horrid with the current Kubuntu KDE version
[00:02] <c_smith> be back in a while
[00:02] <nathwill> enjoy :)
[00:02] <ethan> i think a large part of the resistance to Unity is just b/c it is an immature project and people are also generally resistant to change
[00:02] <nathwill> yeah, you see the same railing against gnome3
[00:03] <ethan> my major concern is the inflating system requirements
[00:03]  * nathwill nods
[00:03] <nathwill> hence the leap to minimal+openbox
[00:03] <ethan> a user-friendly interface design does not require high system requirements
[00:03] <ethan> it requires good design, HIG
[00:04] <ethan> i'm pretty excited about elementaryOS myself
[00:05] <ethan> i think the underlying philosophy is absolutely right on
[00:05] <ethan> regardless of where they take it
[00:05] <ethan> i hope more distros emerge in a similar manner
[00:05] <bkerensa> nathwill: Do you use Empire Avenue?
[00:08] <nathwill> empire avenue?
[00:08]  * nathwill agrees w/ the apparent promise of elementaryos
[00:11] <bkerensa> nathwill: A Social Network Stock Market of sorts http://bit.ly/luWLZe
[00:11] <nathwill> why does it have a price under your name?
[00:11] <nathwill> :P
[00:12] <bkerensa> because thats my value in the market
[00:12] <bkerensa> everyone has a price
[00:12] <bkerensa> :D
[00:12] <nathwill> i see
[00:12] <nathwill> i hope the exchange rate is better than 1:1 or you're pretty cheap. ;)
[00:19] <bkerensa> LOL
[00:21] <nathwill> so i got that job
[00:21] <nathwill> i'm pumped
[00:22] <nathwill> probably be flying to sunnyvale for training in the next couple months
[00:22] <bkerensa> cool
[00:22] <bkerensa> :D
[00:22] <bkerensa> 	(/dev/pts/0) at 20:22 ...
[00:22] <bkerensa> The system is going down for reboot NOW!
[00:22] <nathwill> oh noes!
[00:23] <bkerensa> cloud is waking
[00:23] <bkerensa> :D
[00:23] <nathwill> hope you're using kexec-tools
[00:29] <bkerensa> too many root or sudo shells :D
[01:07] <nathwill> it's so naptime... going home and passing out
[01:17] <bkerensa> nathwill: tango down :P
[01:17] <nathwill> i will, waiting for this sql query to finish
[01:17] <nathwill> 6 min so far...
[01:19] <nathwill> some chump dba forgot to add a unique constraint to this field, and the devs forgot to check for pre-existing records during insertion, so... gotta clean up a massive table
[01:19] <nathwill> and i still don't know what hole in the app logic is getting these things in here, because i can't create a duplicate even if i try
[01:20] <nathwill> yaaaay
[01:20] <nathwill> it finished
[01:21] <nathwill> ok... night all
[06:42]  * bkerensa is listening to: DJ Khaled -  - I'm On One (feat. Drake, Rick Ross & Lil Wayne) - (1:56/4:58)
[06:56] <MarkDude> Rick Ross- ggod look
[06:56] <MarkDude> good
[06:56] <MarkDude> bkerensa: should go for similar- nuthin like waering gold chain with your own face on it
[06:57] <bkerensa> lol
[06:57]  * bkerensa is listening to: Michael Jackson - Bad - Man In The Mirror - (0:12/5:19)
[06:57] <bkerensa> Better MarkDude?
[06:57] <bkerensa> ;p
[07:00] <MarkDude> No
[07:00] <MarkDude> Rick ross was just a coke dealer that became a rapper
[07:00] <MarkDude> MJ touched little kids
[07:13] <bkerensa> ;p
[15:02]  * nathwill yawns
[15:05] <bkerensa> =o
[15:07] <nathwill> it's too freaking early to be up and about :(
[15:18] <bkerensa> nathwill: Perhaps.... I only need to be awake for a hour to make one call then I'm going back to sleep (I was sick all night)
[15:19] <nathwill> don't rub it in
[15:20] <bkerensa> lol
[15:20] <bkerensa> I'm not rubbing anything in.... I was up from 2am till now totally sick.... I thought I might have to go to the ER for awhile but luckily have pulled through
[16:09] <c_smith> good morning.
[16:09] <nathwill> well glad you're feeling better
[16:12] <c_smith> who?
[16:12] <c_smith> me?
[16:23] <bkerensa> :D
[16:23] <bkerensa> me
[16:24] <c_smith> oh, I see.
[16:25] <c_smith> 'tis already almost October? man, this year just flew by......
[16:25] <bkerensa> yep
[16:28] <c_smith> anywho, about 1 month away from having my monetary goal I want to reach before I get the parts for the PC I'm gonna build.
[16:29] <c_smith> question on that: is Fry's Electronics a decent choice for parts?
[16:38] <bkerensa> Yes
[16:38] <bkerensa> They do price matching
[17:21] <c_smith> cool
[18:44] <Brian_H> make sure you know what you want when you go in though ;) their staff isn't as knowledgeable as you might hope
[18:56] <bkerensa> Brian_H: http://www.spi.dod.mil/lipose.htm <-- Secure Linux
[18:58] <c_smith> yeah, I'm going in there next week to get a gauge of what I want and can get before I actually buy, and I'll bring a list of parts I'll need.
[18:59] <c_smith> but thanks for the heads up on that.
[18:59] <Brian_H> just sayin :) guy tried to sell me a fan/heatsink for a processor that was substantially under powered
[19:00] <Brian_H> "oh yea this will work trust me"
[19:00] <Brian_H> bkerensa: interesting reading now
[19:00] <c_smith> in around 2 months I'll have the money, might be one month. depending on if my estimate is correct, either way, it's within 2 months
[19:01] <c_smith> and I'm always sure to look at the actual packaging and see what the product actually is, rather than rely on salespeople. had too many buys that were junk not to.
[19:02] <c_smith> plus, I'll likely run Ubuntu on the PC. ;)
[19:03] <c_smith> anyway, I'll be idling for a while now, if you need anything from me, just let me know.
[19:07] <bkerensa> ok
[19:07] <bkerensa> so we will be doing Release Party at PuppetLabs on Oct 13th I just got the thumbs up from our friends at PuppetLabs
[19:08] <bkerensa> With such short time to plan I'm going to try and sort out some snacks/food although PuppetLabs will provide beverages
[19:08]  * bkerensa starts mulling over who to reach out to for food 
[19:09] <bkerensa> Brian_H: Yeah I just made a USB with the iso and am gonna check it out
[19:13] <bkerensa> We may also have some release party shirts.... I'm reaching out to a company who was interested in paying for some :)
[19:18] <c_smith> sounds awesome
[19:20] <Brian_H> sweet I wish I could be there but I'll be Hawaii ;)
[19:23] <bkerensa> Cool :D
[19:27] <bkerensa> c_smith: Do you think you might be able to come?
[19:32] <c_smith> hopefully, trying to get someone who can take me.
[19:33] <c_smith> unfortunately, I don't know the Portland bus system well enough to want to risk trying to get there by bus.
[19:33] <c_smith> do we have a page up for the event yet?
[19:39] <c_smith> bkerensa, do you have a time to the release party yet?
[19:39] <nathwill> will there be a pony?
[19:43] <c_smith> bah, forgot I have school that day.... :(
[19:43] <c_smith> granted I get out at around 11AM, it'd still be a stretch if it's too early
[19:51] <bdmurray> bkerensa: you mean Thursday right?
[19:52] <c_smith> bkerensa, it's likely I won't be able to make it, I have school until 11A, and there's only one guy here who can take me at that time, and he's the guy who does the grocery shopping, and the person who took me last time has work until 4 or 5 PM, so she won't be able to. be prepared for me not to come, but I'm gonna push as much as I can to come.
[19:52] <c_smith> the guy who is the only possible one to take me also does most of the meals.
[19:55] <c_smith> if it was a weekend, I'd have a better chance making it.
[19:56] <bkerensa> Yeah :)
[19:56] <bkerensa> Well PuppetLabs is a bit tied up
[19:56] <bkerensa> but dont worry we will plan on something soon
[19:56] <bkerensa> bdmurray: Yep Thursday (My bad)
[19:57] <bkerensa> nathwill: I can play Pony by Ginuwine if thats what it takes to get you to swing by ;)
[19:57] <nathwill> consider it mandatory :D
[19:57] <nathwill> it can be our theme song
[19:58] <bkerensa> heh
[19:58] <c_smith> bkerensa, I honestly don't know how i'll make it on a thursday, weekdays are terrible for this type of stuff for most of us.
[19:58] <bkerensa> nathwill: They have a projector so I can play He Man
[19:58] <bkerensa> :D
[19:58] <c_smith> if it was the saturday of, it would make it easier on most of us.
[19:59] <c_smith> school=busy me on weekdays.
[19:59] <bkerensa> c_smith: I know.... I dont make these dates :P 13th happens to be when release falls and I have no idea why Global Jam is on labor day weekend
[19:59] <nathwill> oh noes. i changed my mind. i ain't coming
[19:59] <bkerensa> :P
[19:59] <nathwill> i owe he-man money
[19:59] <bkerensa> I think Canonical has some odd ideas for scheduling things
[19:59] <bkerensa> nathwill: :P
[19:59] <c_smith> the previous Oregon release party fell on the saturday of.....
[20:00] <c_smith> if I read the email correctly.
[20:00] <c_smith> they didn't do the party on that day for these reasons, but they did it the saturday after.
[20:01] <c_smith> bkerensa, take a look at the mailing list replies to that and you'll see what I'm talking about.
[20:01] <bkerensa> Let me shoot an e-mail and see if I can schedule it for the saturday
[20:01] <c_smith> ok
[20:02] <c_smith> that would make it more likely, but not 100%, but a heck of a lot better than thursday, which is when I have school.
[20:02] <bdmurray> for what its worth saturday is less likely for me because of family obligations
[20:03]  * bkerensa passed the Saturday pitch to PuppetLabs
[20:03] <bkerensa> :D
[20:03] <bkerensa> bdmurray: Understandable but I do got aim to please the masses and looks like people want a weekend thing
[20:04] <bkerensa> Does anyone have a preference on time of day?
[20:04] <bdmurray> I only saw 2 people say weekend I'm not sure how that equals masses
[20:05] <c_smith> bkerensa
[20:05] <c_smith> gonna check that.
[20:06] <nathwill> i have thurs-fri off, so i'm down for whatevah
[20:06] <nathwill> as long as i'm not out of town.
[20:06] <c_smith> if anything, it'll likely be closer to the time the Jam was.
[20:07] <bkerensa> bdmurray: Well I even prefer weekend so thats three :P almost everyone has a 9-5 so Thursday evening would be rough plus we would likely only get a hour or two
[20:09] <bkerensa> Weekend is a negative
[20:09] <c_smith> dang..... :(
[20:09] <c_smith> that would almost certainly count me out,
[20:09] <c_smith> school=me missing it.
[20:10] <bkerensa> Friday, Saturday and Sunday PuppetLabs is booked
[20:10] <c_smith> and there isn't another place you know of?
[20:10] <c_smith> hate to have to ask that, but gotta cover all grounds.
[20:15] <bkerensa> ttyl I gotta go to ER having a bit of a issue
[20:15] <c_smith> bkerensa, if it would help, I call call Broadway Commons Coffehouse (the place I'm gonna suggest for a place for Willamette valley team member to hang out) and see if we could host this there, can't say they'd provide drinks for free
[20:16] <c_smith> damn... missed the window. :(
[20:16] <c_smith> this release party is not shaping up to be feasible for me..... :(
[20:17] <nathwill> feel better bkerensa
[20:21]  * bkerensa is back
[20:21] <bkerensa> gonna wait a bit and see if I get better
[20:21] <bkerensa> =/
[20:22] <bkerensa> OHSU is like atleast a four hour wait so idk calling doc see what she thinks
[20:23] <c_smith> bkerensa, I hear ya, Doernbeckers and Shriners was always a long wait.
[20:23] <bkerensa> Yeah
[20:24] <bkerensa> If I was at OHSU  right now I would not be out of there till like 7pm
[20:24] <bkerensa> =/
[20:25] <c_smith> but at least it's not the Social Security building, OHSU you at least have a chance at a small wait, Social Security is a guaranteed 1+ hour wait, check in, then another long wait.
[20:27] <bkerensa> not really now days doctors are super concerned about malpractice
[20:27] <bkerensa> so they run ever possible test
[20:27] <c_smith> bkerensa, however unlikely it is, since it's a Thursday for the party, there's a chance I might make it, a slim one, but at least it's not nothing. wish I didn't have school that day.... bleh.
[20:27] <c_smith> yeah, they do run a lot of tests out of that concern.
[20:27] <bkerensa> plus it would take a hour for OHSU to get a Gastroentonologist on-site and a anethesiologist
[20:28] <c_smith> don't mention that! I have a jaw operation coming up after I get these braces off! I don't like thinking about it!
[22:36] <nathwill> :(
[22:36] <nathwill> bloody mysql.com hacked
[22:51] <c_smith> that sucks
[22:56] <bkerensa> nathwill: I got a nice mysql 5.5 shirt from the MySQL community manager :D
[22:57] <nathwill> you should tell him his site gave me malware and get me one too
[22:57] <nathwill> :P
[23:02] <bkerensa> LOL
[23:02] <bkerensa> when did you visit it?
[23:03] <bkerensa> How did you get malware?
[23:03] <nathwill> uh
[23:03] <nathwill> i didn't
[23:03] <bkerensa> ?
[23:03] <nathwill> i'm just trying to stir up the appearance of malcontent so i can get a free shirt
[23:03] <bkerensa> lol
[23:03] <nathwill> not that i don't already have enough tech co. shirts
[23:18] <bkerensa> I have 25+
[23:18] <bkerensa> :D
[23:19] <c_smith> bkerensa, don't expect to see me at the Release Party if it's thursday.
[23:19] <c_smith> like I have said, it's a schoolday for me.
[23:20] <bkerensa> I'm trying to plan for a weekend
[23:20] <bkerensa> but it depends on what other venue I can find in Portland
[23:21] <c_smith> yeah, I'd offer up Broadway Commons Coffehouse if I had called them and if I knew people could get to Salem for it.
[23:22] <bkerensa> Yeah... Its hard enough getting people to come to Portland Metro area and the majority of the people live in Portland Metro
[23:22] <bkerensa> :D
[23:37] <bkerensa> nathwill: you around
[23:37] <nathwill> yessir
[23:38] <nathwill> hey, what was that url for the free s3 storage?
[23:38] <bkerensa> aws.amazon.com/free
[23:38] <bkerensa> :D
[23:38] <nathwill> thanks mate!
[23:38]  * bkerensa has a tablet available today for sale if you know anyone interested
[23:38] <bkerensa> :D
[23:39] <nathwill> what tablet, what price?
[23:50] <nathwill> so can i use this aws stuff as a CDN?
[23:51] <bkerensa> yeah
[23:51] <bkerensa> if you make a script to sync to S3
[23:51] <nathwill> hrm
[23:51] <nathwill> so s3 is really what i'm looking for
[23:52] <bkerensa> LOL
[23:52] <bkerensa> no
[23:52] <nathwill> cuz i don't really need the rest of this.
[23:52] <bkerensa> MaxCDN is
[23:52] <bkerensa> :D
[23:52] <nathwill> i don't understand
[23:52] <nathwill> lol
[23:52] <bkerensa> EC2 is a VPS/Cloud Instance
[23:52] <bkerensa> S3 is just web storage
[23:52] <nathwill> ah
[23:52] <nathwill> well then...