[03:11] <let_me_in> sup
[05:59] <tumbleweed> Symmetria: something is broken on mirror.ac.za. Getting odd 403 and 404s
[06:05] <kbmonkey> thats no good tumbleweed :/
[06:05] <superfly> yeah, mirror.ac.za has been quite buggy of late
[06:13] <magespawn> morning all
[06:13] <superfly> hiya magespawn
[06:14] <magespawn> how are things on this fine monday morning?
[06:15] <kbmonkey> linux: be root. windows: re boot :D
[06:17] <superfly> You know, initially I didn't like takealot.com's design, but it's growing on me...
[06:17] <superfly> it's actually a tad easier to navigate than Take2's old site
[06:20] <magespawn> never really shopped at it that much
[06:20] <kbmonkey> oh so that is take2 redesigned? was wondering how I got on their mailing list 
[06:21] <superfly> yup
[06:21] <superfly> take2 had a whole big "remake" of themselves
[06:22] <superfly> I can see their offices from my office, and their warehouse is just up the road from my office... it's really cool being able to just go and fetch my stuff instead of waiting for it to be delivered
[06:23] <kbmonkey> i like take2 too
[06:24] <kbmonkey> wow thats close superfly
[06:25] <superfly> kbmonkey: yep, very cool
[07:15] <magespawn> superfly if we ask you to get our stuff will it get to us quicker? maybe start a delivery service?
[07:18] <magespawn> that is meant as a joke.
[07:18] <DraZoro> Good Morning World!
[07:18] <magespawn> good day DraZoro
[07:18] <DraZoro> Hello magespawn
[07:22] <superfly> magespawn: hehehe
[07:23] <magespawn> we need a sarcasm/joke font.
[07:27]  * superfly goes to grab some tea before the next meeting
[07:38] <nuvolari> mornings o/
[07:59] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[08:17] <kbmonkey> hallo nuvolari o/
[08:17] <Kilos> lo kbmonkey nuvolari 
[08:17] <kbmonkey> huh, I placed an ad in gumtree for a free operating system, advertising ubuntu discs. they removed my ad. how rude.
[08:17] <Kilos> wow
[08:17] <Kilos> that sucks
[08:18] <kbmonkey> i think they have a policy against links in the text :p
[08:18] <Kilos> ah do it again and give your email address
[08:19] <Kilos> i think i gave a fone no. as well and got calls next day
[08:21] <kbmonkey> bbl, have to run some errands :D
[08:21] <Kilos> k
[09:24] <magespawn> back all.
[09:24] <magespawn> morning kilos
[09:24] <Kilos> hiya magespawn 
[09:24] <magespawn> Kilos
[09:24] <Kilos> lol same thing
[09:25] <magespawn> i charge ppl for the actual disk but not for the download
[10:07] <nuvolari> morning oom Kilos 
[10:07] <nuvolari> o wag
[10:07] <nuvolari> middag
[10:07] <nuvolari> :P
[10:08] <Kilos> lol
[11:00] <nuvolari> Kilos: hoe gaan dit vandag oom?
[11:01] <nuvolari> en het oom 'n lekker naweek gehad?
[11:01] <Kilos> dit gaan goed dankie seun en ja die naweek was nie sleg nie dankie
[13:19] <nlsthzn> Any wiki experts here? posting the IRC log of our recent meeting (ubuntu-ae) and the lines are to long... what would be the easiest way to make the lines wrap?
[13:31] <confluency> What wiki?
[13:31] <nlsthzn> ubuntu wiki... sorry
[13:31] <nlsthzn> confluency, ^^
[13:31] <confluency> Yes, but what is the wiki software?  Link?
[13:32] <nlsthzn> wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ae
[13:32] <confluency> I'm guessing the answer is either "don't paste it in a preformatted block" or "wrap it in a text editor before pasting it in a preformatted block".
[13:33] <nlsthzn> I pasted into edit and it is wrapping... but whan I copy paste from there it is again not wraped
[13:33] <nlsthzn> *gedit
[13:33] <confluency> I mean hard wrapping.
[13:34] <confluency> Most editors will display long lines as wrapped; that doesn't mean it's doing anything to them.
[13:34] <nlsthzn> by hard wrap you mean break each offending line manually?
[13:35] <confluency> What do you mean by "the lines are too long"?  Are they not wrapping in the browser, or do you just not like where they wrap?
[13:35] <confluency> You shouldn't need to wrap *manually*; I'm pretty sure there's a hard wrap option somewhere in teh editor.
[13:35] <nlsthzn> they are too long... so you have to scroll to the right in your browser to read them...
[13:36] <confluency> OK, then you are probably pasting them in such a way that they are becoming a preformatted block.
[13:36] <nlsthzn> confluency, will go look... had done it before, can't remember how :)
[13:36] <nlsthzn> thanks for the assistance :)
[13:36] <confluency> Do you *want* them to be a preformatted block, or do you not really care?
[13:37] <inetpro> nlsthzn: https://addons.mozilla.org/addons/previews/2351
[13:37] <confluency> nlsthzn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpOnMoinWikiSyntax
[13:37] <inetpro> Toggle word wrapping and PRE element wrapping in the message composition and HTML display windows, respectively.
[13:38] <inetpro> but that will only help to read it in the browser
[13:38] <inetpro> without wrapping
[13:38] <confluency> Uh... that isn't going to help anyone else who is reading the wiki.
[13:38] <inetpro> confluency: true
[13:39] <confluency> nlsthzn: can you pastebin your page source?  It looks like you have to do an explicit {{{ }}} to suppress formatting, so I'm not sure what you're doing.
[13:40]  * inetpro off to a meeting... wbbl
[13:40] <nlsthzn> confluency, http://pastebin.com/ZEsHBBMt
[13:42] <confluency> Yeah, that's your problem -- you're putting it in an unformatted block.  Which also suppresses line wrapping.
[13:43] <confluency> Simplest solution: hard wrap in an editor.
[13:43] <nlsthzn> confluency, k, thanks... will try to get that done (shall fire up writer and see what options I have)
[13:44] <confluency> For maximum prettiness I would use tabs and indents, but that may get a little involved.
[13:46] <confluency> nlsthzn: fold -s yourfile.txt
[13:47] <confluency> Default width is 80; you can override it with -w.
[13:47] <confluency> -s makes it break at spaces instead of in the middle of words.
[13:47] <nlsthzn> confluency, awesome... should have known GNU would have this covered... thanks :D
[13:47] <nlsthzn> already man fold open :)
[13:53] <confluency> nlsthzn: also check out fmt.
[13:54] <confluency> fmt -t indents lines after the first differently at each split, which could make the logs more readable.
[13:56] <nlsthzn> confluency, with fold, it just dumps to stdout and doesn't effect the file it seems (which isn't an issue as i just copied from terminal)... or is it possible to write it to a file (man is vague and my terminal skills are non existant)
[13:56] <confluency> Yes, you need to redirect it somewhere.  It doesn't modify the file in-place.  GNU utilities seldom do.
[13:57] <confluency> > newfile
[13:57] <nlsthzn> that would use > then fold -s orignal.txt > new.txt ?
[13:58] <confluency> Yes.
[13:58] <nlsthzn> awesome, thanks... this is more than enough for the purpose of the wiki... cheers
[13:58] <confluency> No problem.
[14:53] <Kilos> good avy
[15:01] <nlsthzn> hate when I have song in my head and can't remember the name/artist
[15:01] <nlsthzn> song from SA, late 90's early 2000... think it was called sea level...
[15:01] <nlsthzn> "... got dust on my tekkies, a bump on my head..."
[15:01] <nlsthzn> :/
[15:02] <Kilos> lol
[15:02] <Kilos> there lotsa dust there. i seen pics of sandstorms
[15:02] <nlsthzn> that was lyrics from the song
[15:03] <Kilos> maybe one of the younger fellas will know
[15:04] <Kilos> my favourite times were 60's to 80's i think
[15:04] <Kilos> apart from no matter what
[15:04] <Kilos> that got me first time i heard it
[15:04] <nlsthzn> :)
[15:05] <Kilos> maybe the guys on #glug.za will know . there seem to be more jollers there
[15:09] <nlsthzn> hehe
[15:09] <nlsthzn> to many geeks in here for good music eh>
[15:09] <nlsthzn> ?
[15:09] <Vhata> what part of being a geek excludes you from listening to good music?
[15:12] <nlsthzn> notice the ?... it was a question... and a joke at the lack of response ;)
[15:14] <highvoltage> nlsthzn: I guess if anything, being a geek would cause someone to listen to a much wider variety of music.
[15:16] <nlsthzn> possibly... but I guess at the end of the day people have preferences and you listen to what you like :) No right or wrong answer to music 
[15:17] <Vhata> I'd say there is definitely an objective measure that can tell you that some pieces of music are better than others
[15:17] <Vhata> music and maths go hand in hand
[15:17] <highvoltage> I tend to disagree and draw the line at music that's not in any way artistic. Like "Sokkiejol 2011 Volume 23" or things like that.
[15:18] <highvoltage> and I agree with Vhata :)
[15:18] <nlsthzn> Well, I like what I do... and it may be bad by any measure... not going to matter much to me
[15:19] <Vhata> relativist fallacy!
[15:20]  * nlsthzn has no idea how to respond to that so decides to fire up Banshee and listen to music he loves...
[15:21] <Kilos> lol
[15:22] <Kilos> and still no answer
[15:23] <Kilos> maybe the monkey will know
[15:23] <Kilos> be patient nlsthzn 
[15:23] <nlsthzn> Tried Facebook... I doubt that the mathematical algorithm of the song is in harmony with ubuntu-za at this time of year...
[15:23] <nlsthzn> j/k :p
[15:23] <Kilos> or give a few more lines of the song
[15:24] <Kilos> lo highvoltage Vhata 
[15:24]  * nlsthzn hates singing... very off key (or is that of key)... only time will tell...
[15:25] <Kilos> off is right
[15:25] <Kilos> not the one that also says money in my pocket and a tiger in my tank?
[15:26] <nlsthzn> thanks uncle Kilos ... 
[15:26] <nlsthzn> no that isn't ringing any bells
[15:26] <Kilos> hehe
[15:26] <nlsthzn> ..." sea level, caught between the angels and the devil..." part of chorus...
[15:27] <nlsthzn> not to worry... seeing as I can't get anything on-line I doubt I will find a way to play it (via youtube etc.) 
[15:28] <Vhata> Urban Creep - Sea Level
[15:29] <Vhata> somebody had the same problem as you: http://osprey.unisa.ac.za/phorum/read.php?260,94858
[15:29] <nlsthzn> Vhata, awesome... I actually looked into urban creep and it didn't seem right so I gave up... thanks, much appreciated!
[15:30] <Kilos> well done Vhata 
[15:30] <Vhata> I just googled for:  "sea level" caught between the angels and the devil lyrics
[15:31] <Kilos> ah
[15:33] <nlsthzn> so did I :/ ... I tried various different variations... oh well I fail at Google
[15:34] <highvoltage> nlsthzn: I'm very bad at singing but that doesn't stop me.
[15:34] <nlsthzn> :)
[15:34] <nlsthzn> I feel sorry for those around me
[15:35] <highvoltage> oh it's one of those things that I only do in my car and in the shower.
[15:36] <Kilos> lol
[15:36] <nlsthzn> http://www.rockfest.co.za/fresh/mp3s/Jiving%20To%20The%20Weekend%20Beat/Urban%20Creep%20-%2010%20-%20Sea%20Level%20%28DEMO%29.mp3
[15:38] <Kilos> nlsthzn, how big is it 
[15:38] <Kilos> and can you just go download it
[15:39] <nlsthzn> ah... it is only a demo (used for ringtones) about 1.3MB... not worth it if Net is capped... 
[15:40] <Kilos> na get that song scroomba i think it was called it wipes other songs outa your mind
[15:40] <nlsthzn> eek
[15:41] <Kilos> lol especially kids
[15:44] <Kilos> what about de la rey nlsthzn 
[15:44] <Kilos> you eek that too?
[15:45] <nlsthzn> well... I am not going to listen to it on purpose...
[15:46] <Kilos> lol
[15:51] <magespawn> good evening all
[15:51] <Kilos> hiya magespawn 
[15:52] <nlsthzn> o/ 
[15:53] <magespawn> just reading about the music discussion earlier
[15:54] <Kilos> lol
[15:55] <magespawn> one is an opinion about what is good or bad and the other is a technical quantification.
[15:56] <magespawn> big words for this late in the day. anyway i am off home later all.
[15:56] <Kilos> cheers magespawn 
[16:31] <nuvolari> whoot
[16:32] <nuvolari> today be a happy day
[16:32] <nuvolari> just 'cause
[16:32] <Kilos> lol what happened nuvolari 
[16:32] <Kilos> good to see you happy at the end of the day
[16:32] <nuvolari> niks oom
[16:33] <nuvolari> ek het net 'n goeie gemoed
[16:33] <Kilos> hmm
[16:33] <Kilos> gaan jy  miskien n lotto wen of iets
[16:33] <nuvolari> nee oom
[16:33] <nuvolari> kan nie wen as ek nie speel nie :P
[16:33] <Kilos> lol
[16:34] <nuvolari> dink dis dalk oor ek uitsien na my helikopter
[16:34] <Kilos> lol gaan jy een van hulle koop?
[16:37] <nuvolari> ja oom! ek't gister uitgevind die een oom en sy seun vlieg en voer self in
[16:37] <Kilos> ah
[16:37] <Kilos> bietjie veiliger as n mountain bike
[16:37] <Kilos> skuus man
[16:38] <nuvolari> heh, ja dit is oom :P ek't my alie bietjie lelik gesien die eenkeer, maar ek begin nou weer fiks word
[16:38] <Kilos> mooi
[16:57] <nuvolari> oi dit was 'n lang dag!
[16:57] <Kilos> lol
[16:57] <nuvolari> dink ek moet vanaand vroeg  gaan inkruip
[16:58] <Kilos> goeie plan as jy moeg is
[18:16] <Chat5333> helo
[18:25] <Vhata> 250 #ubuntu-za