[00:00] <magpii> what is liquidsoap?
[00:00] <urlin2u> magpii, did you install lquid soap?
[00:00] <magpii> not sure, gimme a sec to check
[00:01] <urlin2u> magpii, look on the web for ehatit is.
[00:01] <urlin2u> it*
[00:02] <magpii> liquidsoap is not installed according to synaptic
[00:02] <urlin2u> magpii, not sure really
[00:06] <magpii> using the top command, how do i kill a pid user?
[00:06] <magpii> sorry, just a user
[00:07] <SIFTU> magpii: use htop and save yourself some pain
[00:07] <skegeek> What are the up-to-date repository domains?
[00:07] <magpii> htop?
[00:07] <skegeek> security.ubuntu.com has been failing on me for months.
[00:07] <th0r> magpii: you can usually kill the process with 'kill -9 pid'
[00:07] <bastidrazor> skegeek: pick a different mirror
[00:08] <skegeek> I need a mirror list then.
[00:08] <hellslinger> does anyone know how to make a synaptic trackpad retain its settings after login?
[00:08] <th0r> hellslinger: synclient might help
[00:08] <hellslinger> th0r, I'm able to set those settings with it, but the settings do not stay
[00:09] <bastidrazor> skegeek: Synaptic > Settings > Repositories > Download from; select Other > Select Best Server
[00:09] <th0r> hellslinger: I would put the settings into a script and run it at login
[00:09] <magpii> pyp is pid id 1390, when i try to kill it, it tells me the operation is not permitted
[00:09] <jschall> on my mom's machine, flashplugin has stopped working twice and I've had her run "sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-installer" which has fixed the problem both times. Anyone know why it happens and how to stop it from happening? She uses chromium on kubuntu 11.04 on a system76 gazelle professional.
[00:09] <magpii> *pypo
[00:09] <bastidrazor> magpii: sudo
[00:10] <hellslinger> th0r: do you know where the scripts are that set it after it comes out of suspend
[00:10] <th0r> hellslinger: nope, I run debian
[00:10] <Ricki21> hello
[00:11] <magpii> ok, whats the command line to kill the pid id? i type "k" then type the pid number, then what?
[00:11] <th0r> magpii: 'sudo kill -9 pid#'
[00:11] <bastidrazor> magpii: once you know the PID; outside of top type sudo kill PID
[00:12] <bastidrazor> th0r: -9 isn't always a smart idea.
[00:12] <magpii> ahh, so i type in a new terminal, duh, me thick lol
[00:12] <th0r> bastidrazor: I think it will be needed in this case
[00:12] <bastidrazor> th0r: assuming is bad.
[00:12] <tester_>  im trying to dual boot windows 7 and blackbuntu.  i have a c drive and then 373 gbs of unallocated space.  how can i put linux on the allocated space?
[00:13] <bastidrazor> tester_: ask in the blackbuntu channel.
[00:13] <graingert> is it possible to get update-manager dist upgrade to just do the download section
[00:14] <tester_> theres only 2 people in there :{
[00:14] <graingert> without having to sit and watch it and hit cancel
[00:14] <magpii> when i type in a new terminal: sudo kill pid 1390. i get this message: ERROR: garbage process ID "pid".
[00:14] <graingert> pid isn't a valid pid
[00:14] <bastidrazor> tester_: then patience is key.
[00:14] <th0r> magpii: just the number, no pid
[00:14] <graingert> magpii: ^
[00:15] <magpii> ok will try again, thanks for ya patience, i am reletivly new to ubuntu. cheers for the help
[00:15] <graingert> why not use killall
[00:15] <graingert> what are you trying to kill magpii?
[00:15] <StepNjump> What is linux's live session user default password please?
[00:15] <bastidrazor> StepNjump: there isn't one
[00:15] <graingert> StepNjump: there isn't one
[00:16] <Stanley00> StepNjump: nothing
[00:16] <graingert> linux does not have a live session
[00:16] <StepNjump> Lol gmta
[00:16] <graingert> it's just a kernel
[00:16] <graingert> !google gmta
[00:16] <StepNjump> I am trying to change the password
[00:16] <graingert> why?
[00:16] <magpii> ok, when i type sudo kill 1390, i get: kill: No such process
[00:16] <graingert> magpii: doesn't exist anymore
[00:17] <graingert> it died of natural causes
[00:17] <graingert> what are you trying to kill?
[00:17] <Stanley00> magpii: then "there's no such process" ;)
[00:17] <magpii> when i type sudo kill liquidsoap, i get ERROR: garbage process ID "liquidsoap".
[00:17] <graingert> magpii: use killall liquidsoap
[00:17] <graingert> and why sudo?
[00:17] <StepNjump> When I try to change the password, it says the current password is not valid
[00:17] <jiohdi> try using terminal type top... it will show running processes and their pids
[00:17] <Stanley00> magpii: kill only accept pid, use killall with process name
[00:17] <jiohdi> and if you type k you can kill them
[00:17] <graingert> StepNjump: don't change the password on a live system
[00:18] <StepNjump> I would like to sign on as su graingert
[00:18] <magpii> if there is no such process, then why is it listed number 5 from the top of the list of running processes in "top"?
[00:18] <graingert> StepNjump: then use sudo
[00:18] <StepNjump> yeah ok thanks graingert
[00:18] <jiohdi> magpii, type k then the pid then 9
[00:18] <graingert> magpii: did you run "killall liquidsoap"
[00:19] <bastidrazor> StepNjump: you can use sudo -i
[00:19] <StepNjump> thanks bastidrazor
[00:19] <magpii> yes, i ran killall liquidsoap, "no such process found"#
[00:19] <jiohdi> zombies are hard to kill
[00:20] <graingert> magpii: run ps -ef | grep liquid
[00:20] <graingert> and pastebin the output
[00:20] <bastidrazor> StepNjump: you're welcome.
[00:21] <Derpy> what's the deal with the floodbots?
[00:21] <magpii> i think this is the right link to the pastebin page http://pastebin.com/wpfMFvwh
[00:22] <ntr0py> magpii: maybe run as root:             for I in $(pidof liquidsoap) ; do kill -KILL $I ; done
[00:23] <graingert> kill 20098
[00:23] <suprbly> how do you get root on ubuntu
[00:23] <graingert> sudo kill 20098
[00:23] <graingert> suprbly: you can't
[00:23] <magpii> when i type that command in terminal it tells me that the operation is not permited
[00:23] <suprbly> poop
[00:23] <magpii> i a running with elevated access
[00:23] <graingert> sudo kill 20098
[00:24] <urlin2u> suprbly, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[00:25] <suprbly> ty
[00:25] <magpii> everytime i kill the pid number related to user "pypo" it instantly re apears in "top" list with a different pid number
[00:29] <BerryPunch> oh my
[00:31] <lostinthewoods> Help. My BIOS can see my Western Digital green drives but Live DVD can't. Any ideas?
[00:31] <ntr0py> sudo chmod -x /usr/lib/airtime/pypo/bin/liquidsoap_bin/liquidsoap
[00:31] <zykotick9> suprbly, WHY do you need root?  sudo should work 99% of the time?
[00:31] <Glitchy_> Does anyone here know how to find the channels for anon?
[00:32] <bastidrazor> Glitchy_: /msg ubottu alis
[00:32] <magpii> ok, here is a full list of stuff that is shown in the "top" command in terminal. could someone please tell me whether i need to worry about user "pypo" as i am admin and the only authorized user apart from boinc client http://pastebin.com/zZnNpjCR
[00:32] <og01> suprbly: sudo -s for root shell
[00:33] <og01> suprbly: you can then change the root password if you desire with passwd
[00:33] <tjiggi_fo> magpii, pypo is part of liquidsoap: http://wiki.sourcefabric.org/display/CC/Scheduler+%28Liquidsoap,+pypo,+API%29
[00:33] <zykotick9> og01, why didn't you wait to see if they gave a reason?  And "sudo -i" is the more official answer.
[00:33] <urlin2u> magpii, I wold just reboot if it s just a zombie.
[00:34] <zykotick9> og01, also giving directions to set a root pw is not supported in this channel
[00:34] <Glitchy_> Doesn't seem as though anyone wants to help, I think I may search elsewhere
[00:34] <bastidrazor> Glitchy_: i told you how to find channels.
[00:34] <magpii> top is listing 1 zombie. I guess that must be "pypo". i did install some software to run a radio station a few days ago but havnt got round to configuring it yet
[00:34] <og01> zykotick9: he asked a direct question... it might not be recommended, but thats his problem.
[00:34] <Glitchy_> I messaged you, it's not finding them at all
[00:35] <bastidrazor> Glitchy_: possibly freenode doesn't have a channel like that.
[00:35] <tjiggi_fo> Glitchy_, /msg alis list *anon*
[00:35] <qin> og01: Not, if he foo bar something and come back to help.
[00:36] <qin> *for
[00:37] <zhiyong> ??
[00:37] <urlin2u> magpii, that is the answer the liquidsoap script I wouldn't worry about it really
[00:38] <jmbsvicetto> Hello. Where can I find checksums for the 11.04 64bits desktop release? I couldn't find them through http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download and the checksums on http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/releases/11.04/release/ mention ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso and not ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[00:38] <Stanley00> !checksum | jmbsvicetto
[00:38] <og01> qin: is it required to hold everybody's hand? his question was quite direct.  but dont worry I'll leave for now.
[00:38] <qin> !hashes
[00:39] <Stanley00> qin: =))
[00:39] <magpii> thanks. i was told by a friend to run the "top" command to see what was running on my system, i got a bit worried when i saw "pypo" listed as a user as i am the only user of this comp. at least i know now that it isnt a problem. thanks everyone for your imput. I really apreciate the help being a new (ish) user of ubuntu
[00:39] <qin> Stanley00: Discovering ubottu quite tricky sometimes ;)
[00:40] <urlin2u> magpii, I would used to htop you can kill stuff with it you just need to install it
[00:40] <qin> magpii: htop is much better.
[00:40] <jmbsvicetto> Stanley00: Thanks. I see that page only lists md5sums (no sha1 or sha256 sums).
[00:41] <magpii> ok cheers, is htop in sepositories?
[00:41] <qin> magpii: Yes
[00:42] <SIFTU> magpii: i probably suggested htop about 30 mins ago
[00:42] <urlin2u> jmbsvicetto, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSHA256SUM
[00:43] <magpii> indeed you did, but i didnt register it as i was pre occupied with a slight touch of panic at the possibility of my system being invaded.
[00:44] <qin> I do intend to connect to wpa2 with wpa_suplicant or wicd (or whatever), is there lesser (newer) how to, that I am not aware of? Natty, 32bit, RaLink RT2561/RT61, Headless.
[00:44] <urlin2u> jmbsvicetto, http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/
[00:46] <marcuscrassus> hey, can anyone help me? I can no longer view software in "software center" - ubuntu lucid 10.04: I'd like to know how to reintroduce the packages to software center.
[00:47] <urlin2u> marcuscrassus, run sudo apt-ge update in the terminal
[00:47] <urlin2u> sudo apt-get update
[00:47] <marcuscrassus> ok ill do that now thanks
[00:48] <marcuscrassus> this is the message i got back: Type '“deb' is not known on line 52 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:49] <magpii> ok, pypo user just refuses to die. i cant figure out why liquidsoap is running as it is not installed on my system. i know there must be a logical explenation but i am too tired and still unfamilier with ubuntu. I will try a reboot and see if that helps. thanks for ya help.
[00:49] <Technicus> Hello . . . I have a friend who is trying to install the "IronHide" drivers -< https://launchpad.net/~mj-casalogic/+archive/ironhide/+packages >- on an Asus 1215n.  He has setup the repository and installed, but when he plays 1080 video it is like watching a slide show.  How can this be resolved?
[00:49] <th0r> magpii: you said you installed software for a radio station but hadn't configured it yet?
[00:50] <Stanley00> marcuscrassus: you need open sources.list and edit the line it said, change the ", I think
[00:50] <magpii> yes, i installed internet dj console but couldt configure it to work properly
[00:50] <marcuscrassus> what is open sources.list?
[00:50] <th0r> magpii: liquidsoap is an environment for streaming audio and video
[00:50] <atari2600a> question
[00:50] <atari2600a> can you unmount /home/ when in a guest session?
[00:51] <atari2600a> I want to shrink /home/ to make a partition to hold a server VM I plan to create
[00:51] <atari2600a> you know, to make re-imaging easier yet not have it goung through /home/'s ecryptfs bottleneck
[00:51] <magpii> i understand that, but i dont have the radio streaming software running yet liquid soap is still on the "top" list by user "pyro"
[00:51] <Stanley00> atari2600a: I dont think so, you should do that via a liveCD
[00:51] <atari2600a> (it's not DMA if it's ecryptfs :P)
[00:52] <falthon> hola sala
[00:52] <atari2600a> Stanley00, yeah but that requires rebooting
[00:52] <th0r> magpii: there is probably a daemon involved with the radio station software that was installed as part of the package.
[00:52] <atari2600a> could I dismount /home/ if I make guest symlink to /tmp/?
[00:52] <magpii> ok, i am going to uninstall it and start from afresh
[00:56] <urlin2u> marcuscrassus, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free_and_open_source_software_packages  Probablgive arefrence to stif ;ie that.y always
[00:57] <urlin2u> sorry for the spelling give a reference to that if asking marcuscrassus
[00:59] <marcuscrassus> urlin2u hey so i opened that link, what can i do with it?
[01:00] <urlin2u> marcuscrassus, you asked about a list wityh no refrence that was the best I could glean from your question, which I think is self explanatory in itself really.
[01:00] <Raptors> Is there any way to limit the battery charge level?
[01:00] <Raptors> I want it to charge to a max of 50% of the capacity
[01:01] <Ttech> Raptors, Unplug your laptop when it reaches 50%?
[01:01] <urlin2u> open sourecs look that up and list hmm wonder what that means marcuscrassus :D
[01:01] <Raptors> because apparently that's the optimum level
[01:01] <Raptors> Ttech, I don't want to use battery power when it reaches 50%
[01:01] <Raptors> and I don't have a removable battery
[01:01] <Raptors> Is there any software that can do it?
[01:01] <Ttech> I think that is all hardware
[01:02] <marcuscrassus> hm ok ill try to be more specific. i open software center but cannot find any packages there when i search manually or when i browse the categories provided. when i entered the line suggested into terminal: sudo apt: get update, i get the error message that deb could not be read in line 52
[01:02] <sdperez79> can someone please tell me how do I use alt ctrl del function in ubuntu?
[01:02] <Raptors> Ttech, why can't it be done on software? just stop charging when it reads 50%
[01:02] <Raptors> :|
[01:02] <urlin2u> sdperez79, go to keyboard and set it up I think
[01:02] <sdperez79> to kill a process
[01:02] <Ttech> Raptors, Because hardware controls charging not software
[01:03] <marcuscrassus> so what i want to know, is how to get those packages back, indeed, all packages so i can download software
[01:03] <Ttech> Software just reads it
[01:03] <urlin2u> sdperez79, use htop
[01:03] <sdperez79> i meant how to i kill processes
[01:03] <sdperez79> htop?
[01:03] <sdperez79> im a noob at this sorry
[01:03] <urlin2u> sdperez79, install it, it has a search and kill
[01:03] <sdperez79> k
[01:04] <urlin2u> sdperez79, you wil figure it out. :D
[01:04] <Stanley00> marcuscrassus: did you edit the file as i said?
[01:05] <urlin2u> sdperez79, everything is on the web as well for info htop is in the software centrt. http://htop.sourceforge.net/
[01:05] <marcuscrassus> i did not, i wasnt sure which file to edit and how to do so...
[01:05] <sdperez79> this will kill stubborn windows like in windows?(Htop)??
[01:05] <magpii> on a dual processor, how do i restrict a programm to using just one processor?
[01:05] <Stanley00> marcuscrassus: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:06] <Stanley00> marcuscrassus:  the " cause the prob here
[01:06] <marcuscrassus> ok ill punch that in now
[01:06] <urlin2u> sdperez79, windows? not sure depends on what thwe window was.
[01:06] <sdperez79> one more question is it to late to change my login name or can i change it?
[01:06] <Stanley00> sdperez79: try user account seting
[01:07] <Stanley00> sdperez79: if you cant find it there, it too late ;)
[01:07] <urlin2u> sdperez79, not really a good idea just make a new account.
[01:08] <marcuscrassus> ok so i typed that in, and i got a new window type thing with abunch of text... should i edit something there?
[01:08] <sdperez79> i found it thanks
[01:08] <jmbsvicetto> urlin2u: thanks
[01:08] <sanjid> for some reason, my sound was working perfectly, but is now coming out incredibly distorted. This happens with both banshee and movie player, so it's definitely an underlying issue. I use a Asus Sabertooth X58 if that helps.
[01:08] <urlin2u> jmbsvicetto, cool you figured it out. :D
[01:08] <Stanley00> marcuscrassus: press down key until you get to line 52, I guess it's some where in the end
[01:08] <marcuscrassus> ok i did that
[01:09] <marcuscrassus> and i found some stuf id tried to download for tor
[01:09] <marcuscrassus> and there are quotes
[01:09] <Stanley00> marcuscrassus: delete the " before the deb
[01:09] <marcuscrassus> ok, there are a few with quotes, all or just the one line?
[01:09] <Stanley00> marcuscrassus: yes, delete the " char , all of them
[01:09] <marcuscrassus> ok, the ones before and after?
[01:10] <Stanley00> marcuscrassus: yes
[01:10] <marcuscrassus> ok thats done
[01:10] <marcuscrassus> do i just hit enter now?
[01:10] <Stanley00> marcuscrassus: press ctrl + O to save
[01:10] <jmbsvicetto> urlin2u: Reading that page, there's no listing of the sha256 checksum, though
[01:10] <Stanley00> marcuscrassus: and ctrl + x to exit, then run sudo apt-get update again
[01:11] <marcuscrassus> ok i hit that and nothing happened, is it saved or should there be a message?
[01:11] <jmbsvicetto> urlin2u: and the one in the sha256sums file seems to be for a different file and has a different value
[01:11] <urlin2u> jmbsvicetto, its on the second link I believe
[01:11] <Stanley00> marcuscrassus: when you press ctral + o, look at the bottom, it will ask you the name, just hit enter there
[01:12] <marcuscrassus> ok, is it o the letter, or o the zero?
[01:12] <marcuscrassus> oh ok got it, it was the letter ;p
[01:12] <Stanley00> marcuscrassus: ;)
[01:12] <urlin2u> jmbsvicetto, http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/
[01:13] <marcuscrassus> cool thanks a lot, so ive done that, ill close this window and take a look in software center
[01:13] <marcuscrassus> There is still a process running in this terminal. Closing the terminal will kill it- i got this message, do i need to do something else?
[01:14] <Stanley00> marcuscrassus: did you press Ctrl + x to exit nano?
[01:14] <jmbsvicetto> urlin2u: Thanks. Interesting, the iso I downloaded matches the md5, but fails sha256
[01:14] <marcuscrassus> um no i just clicked the close button at top left
[01:14] <marcuscrassus> do that instead?
[01:14] <urlin2u> jmbsvicetto, I've never used anyone but the md5sum and hardly ever.
[01:14] <Stanley00> marcuscrassus: you should do that, and run sudo apt-get update before check in Ubuntu Software Center
[01:15] <marcuscrassus> ok gotcha
[01:16] <Raptors> Ttech, can't the software tell the hardware to stop charging?
[01:17] <marcuscrassus> hmmm still not seeing anything in software center... :(
[01:17] <marcuscrassus> would reboot make any difference?
[01:17] <Stanley00> marcuscrassus: after running apt-get update?
[01:17] <marcuscrassus> yeah i ran that
[01:17] <marcuscrassus> and it did its thing
[01:18] <marcuscrassus> it looked like they all flooded back in
[01:18] <marcuscrassus> but im still not seeing any options in software center
[01:19] <marcuscrassus> there were some errors: W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://dl.google.com stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A040830F7FAC5991  W: GPG error: http://deb.torproject.org lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the pub
[01:19] <marcuscrassus> W: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release    W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org/ lucid/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/deb.torproject.org_torproject.org_dists_lucid_main_binary-i386_Packages) W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org
[01:20] <xangua> !gpgerr
[01:21] <Stanley00> xangua: thanks, maybe I need learn that ubottu ;)
[01:24] <marcuscrassus> hey! theyre back! hooray! thanks Stanley00 :)
[01:24] <Stanley00> marcuscrassus: glad it did ;)
[01:26] <Ttech> Raptors, no.
[01:29] <henningvis> need help to reset authentication using live cd
[01:30] <henningvis> any guru in here?
[01:30] <graingert> henningvis: yep
[01:30] <henningvis> aha'
[01:30] <graingert> henningvis: what authentication
[01:30] <henningvis> i installed pam face authentication
[01:31] <graingert> henningvis: k
[01:31] <henningvis> then uninstalled it ...now my password is not recognised
[01:31] <graingert> henningvis:  /etc/pam.conf
[01:31] <henningvis> ok
[01:31] <graingert> is your pw accepted in one of the tty's?
[01:31] <henningvis> i am on the live cd now
[01:31] <graingert> ctrl+alt+F1
[01:32] <graingert> you'll need to switch to your installed version
[01:32] <graingert> anyway I am off to bed
[01:32] <graingert> as I have nap to go to
[01:32] <henningvis> yes  i cn log in as root in reapar
[01:32] <henningvis> repair
[01:32] <graingert> I don't mean that
[01:32] <graingert> I mean tty
[01:32] <littlegi1affe> hi
[01:32] <maheanuu> good afternoon/evening all, I am having a problem with an external 1.5 gb external drive that is formatted ntfs
[01:33] <littlegi1affe> does anyone know which gnome component draws the wallpaper when gnome-control-center is started?  i would like to disable it permanently
[01:33] <henningvis> graingert does mean no help form u?
[01:34] <graingert> henningvis: I might help but IRC doesn't work in dream land :(
[01:34] <henningvis> ic
[01:34] <henningvis> :(
[01:35] <qin> graingert: hehe, i dream of irc
[01:38] <dr_willis> makes me wonder why he just dosent reinstall pam face authentication again... and see if it works..
[01:38] <maheanuu> I have 2 of these drives that are both giving me the same error, and both ran beautifully on Ubuntu until they hiccupped and started giving me errors, I am running Ubuntu 10.10 and do NOT have windows on any maching
[01:38] <maheanuu> machine dammit
[01:38] <dr_willis> maheanuu:  what error?
[01:38] <truepurple> Help please, I put in a CD-R, I put in the files I want to burn onto it, it goes through what seems like the process of burning the files, afterwards it ejects the disk. But when I go to put the disk back in, it acts like it is blank, and when I bring it to another computer, it looks blank to that computer too
[01:39] <maheanuu> dr_willis, http://paste.ubuntu.com/696993/
[01:39] <dr_willis> maheanuu:  and there are windows rescue/recovery/repair dvds you can get to fix any bad filesystems.
[01:39] <dr_willis> Not everyone has a browser handy. can you at least summarize the error message.
[01:39] <maheanuu> I have NO computer on windoze
[01:39] <maheanuu> None
[01:39] <dr_willis> maheanuu:  you CAN get a DVD that has windows on it... for free, legally, from ms..
[01:40] <dr_willis> its just a 'repair' dvd you can use to check ntfs filesystem and so forth.
[01:40] <maheanuu> dr_willis, wow do you have more info or a lind?
[01:40] <dr_willis> but the fact you have no windows machines.. makes us wonder why you are using NTFS at all.
[01:40] <maheanuu> Link?
[01:40] <dr_willis> maheanuu:  i think i bookmarked the link at my delicious.com/dr_willis site. I learned about the disks from the Lifehacker blog site.
[01:41] <maheanuu> dr_willis, I use them for storage
[01:41] <dr_willis>  #windows would know better.
[01:41] <truepurple> How do I mount my DVD player BTW?
[01:41] <dr_willis> question is why are you using  ntfs for storage :)  if its a all linux setup.
[01:41] <dr_willis> truepurple:  huh?
[01:42] <maheanuu> I need to have the large file storage and as everyone else out here in the leeward islands are all windoze users I can let them use the drives and be able to read them
[01:42] <cornell> Hi, can anyone tell me how to ping a range of addresses?
[01:42] <truepurple> dr_willis, my DVD drive is not listed as a device, how to I get it to list so I can check the contents of the disk?
[01:42] <maheanuu> sorry dr_willis That was for you
[01:43] <blacksunseven> might seem like an odd question but is anyone aware of a cross-platform "air mouse" kind of application w/ keyboard support? i want to use my kb/mouse for control over computers with heads but no input devices w/o having to remote desktop or such
[01:43] <dr_willis> maheanuu:  http://www.delicious.com/dr_willis/windows    has links to the recovery disks - if you need to 'file system check' the drives.
[01:43] <Anubis> cornell: make it easy use nmap or install the gui version zenmap
[01:44] <dr_willis> truepurple:  then its not a 'dvd player' :) its a dvd optical drive.     a player would be an app or device that just plays dvd movies..
[01:44] <Anubis> meheanuu: use samba to enable linux and windows to share resources
[01:44] <dr_willis> truepurple:  you are putting in a dvd data disk? or are you trying to play a movie?
[01:44] <PxGaZuZ> hello evry1
[01:44] <graingert> blacksunseven: yep
[01:44] <blacksunseven> graingert, name of it?
[01:44] <graingert> blacksunseven: it's called synergy
[01:44] <truepurple> dr_willis, it is a CD-R which may or may not contain data
[01:44] <cornell> Thanks Anubis, I'll check it out.
[01:45] <blacksunseven> ok, that's the one i had found. didn't know if it was legit and wanted to seek any user reviews before troubling myself with installing it and trying to get it configured
[01:45] <dr_willis> truepurple:  if theres no data on teh disk. then you cant mount it..
[01:45] <blacksunseven> how is it graingert
[01:45] <graingert> http://synergy-foss.org/
[01:45] <truepurple> dr_willis, I thought I burned content to it, twice, but as I mentioned before, it isn't working right
[01:45] <graingert> blacksunseven: very good
[01:45] <blacksunseven> graingert, awesome, that's what I want to hear. gonna give it a shot now.
[01:45] <truepurple> dr_willis, it acts like it burned the data, but then it doesn't seem to be there
[01:45] <graingert> blacksunseven: A lot of people use it for real world stuff
[01:45] <sianhulo> how can i enable screensaver?
[01:45] <dr_willis> truepurple:  burnt data to it how?
[01:45] <graingert> I used it to control my desktop from netbook
[01:45] <cornell> Of a sudden I can't "obtain addresses" from either of my WAPs, I don't know if it's the WAPs or IPCOP.
[01:46] <graingert> but I never really needed it
[01:46] <maheanuu> dr_willis,  Is This it?  Recover Deleted Files on an NTFS Hard Drive from a Ubuntu Live CD - How-To Geek
[01:46] <graingert> you can't drag windows between the computers "yet"
[01:46] <urlin2u> sianhulo, at will or after a bit of time?
[01:46] <truepurple> dr_willis, the pop up that came up when I put the disk it, I mean the pop up that use to come up when I put the disk in
[01:46] <dr_willis> maheanuu:  i never really looked at your pastebin of the error message and you never summariuzed it.. so i dont know what your original issue is.
[01:46] <truepurple> It even said "successfully burned"
[01:47] <sianhulo> urlin2u, i meant, how do i change it?
[01:47] <urlin2u> sian in screensaver
[01:47] <urlin2u> sanh
[01:47] <urlin2u> sianhulo, in screensaver
[01:47] <sianhulo> i don't have that option here
[01:47] <dr_willis> maheanuu:  the win vista/7 recovery disk links there - let you get a windows 'rescue' type dvd you can boot and do various fs checks and other fix's.
[01:48] <urlin2u> sianhulo, really what distro and desktop?
[01:48] <sianhulo> have screen, but it only shos how long the screen will be turn on without activity
[01:48] <dr_willis> sianhulo:  so what are you wanting to change?
[01:48] <sianhulo> urlin2u, oneiric with gnome, but haven't got an response at ubuntu+1
[01:49] <maheanuu> dr_willis, What is happening is that it tells me that it cannot be mounted and there are trashed files  It is telling me to do a fdisk /f and then reboot 2 times and I saw that  but not knowing 7 at all I wasn't sure
[01:49] <sianhulo> i want ubuntu to show an screensaver, right now the scrren just turn off
[01:49] <maheanuu> dr_willis, headed back there now
[01:49] <dr_willis> maheanuu:  then you need to use a friends windows pc., or one of those dvd's to filesystem check the hd's
[01:50] <dr_willis> and make sure they safely remove usb device.. befor they unplug them :)
[01:51] <truepurple> dr_willis, are you still trying to help me?
[01:51] <dr_willis> off to work for now truepurple ..    if its a data disk. try just mounting it by hand is about all i can sugegst. and check 'dmesg' command output for any errors.
[01:52] <dr_willis> bbl. if i can.
[01:53] <truepurple> dr_willis, how do I mount it by hand?
[01:55] <maheanuu> dr_willis, Thanks for your help, and time....  I have your page bookmarked now...
[01:55] <cornell> Anubis, Thanks, zenmap seemed to do the trick
[01:58] <cornell> I've a motorola WAP that I can access on an IP address.  I've also a Linksys, but it apparently doesn't have an IP address.  (zenmap reports 6 devices, none of which are the Linksys).
[01:59] <cornell> If it's interacting with the LAN, it would need an IP address, no?
[01:59] <PsiKloPx> truepurple: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB Scroll down to Manually Mount
[01:59] <mingdao_home> How does one start sshd on Ubuntu?
[02:00] <cornell> ps aux |egrep sshd
[02:00] <syn-ack> mingdao_home, First you have to install the sshd
[02:00] <syn-ack> then it should start on it's own once installed. :D
[02:00] <cornell> to see if it's already running.
[02:00] <cornell> mingdao_home,
[02:00] <qin> mingdao_home: sudo apt-get install openssh-server; sudo service ssh start
[02:00] <mingdao_home> thanks
[02:01] <syn-ack> cornell, it's prolly not installed.
[02:01] <blacksunseven> any virtualbox users in here?
[02:02] <mingdao_home> cornell: it's not running
[02:02] <mingdao_home> mingdao@jeremiah ~ $ rsync -av .Xdefaults mingdao@192.168.1.15:~/
[02:02] <mingdao_home> ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.15 port 22: Connection refused
[02:02] <egoproctor> can anyone help me determine why my Fn keys are not working properly anymore?
[02:02] <cornell> sshd?  I just did  a new install on my ubuntu, don't recall installing ssh.  Of course, I don't recall a lot of things ;-)
[02:02] <mingdao_home> I ssh'ed into .17 and I'm on .15
[02:02] <mingdao_home> cornell: this is my first time to use Ubuntu personally
[02:03] <cornell> mingdao_home, I've been using it for years, love it.  Of course that doesn't make me an expert ;-)
[02:03] <mingdao_home> cornell: there are *no* experts in *nix ;)
[02:03] <mingdao_home> qin: thanks, mate ... that fixed me right up
[02:04] <cornell> Well, there's that ;-)
[02:04] <mingdao_home> yeah ... gotta have my urxvt properly configed
[02:04] <cornell> Again, shouldn't my WAP show up with an IP address in the zenmap results?
[02:04] <mingdao_home> konsole rather stinks compared
[02:06] <cornell> k, gotta go take care of some chores, TTFN
[02:08] <mbaxter> hi all
[02:12] <markiv> Hi. Is this the right place to ask assistance for a bug?
[02:12] <Nostoc> A bug with your OS or another program, or a bug with xchat?
[02:13] <markiv> Nostoc: A bug with Ubuntu.
[02:13] <jaypur> can someone help me at ascii filter at libre office???/
[02:14] <Nostoc> I believe there are more specific channels for that, I'm sure you can find one on the site.
[02:14] <qin> markiv: What isits number? Perhaps you can ask, but much better isto follow it on launchpad.
[02:15] <quem> hmm..
[02:16] <quem> i want to try if my mobile connection is working, while stay online through my 'regular' connection.
[02:16] <quem> a few years ago i would've had a clue
[02:16] <markiv> qin: thanks. I'm trying to check up with launchpad to see if there's been a similar bug/fix. I'll aks here if I'm unsuccessful
[02:17] <qin> quem: There is ifconfig
[02:19] <quem> qin: any way to tell the browser to use a specific connection?
[02:20] <qin> quem: Yes, you can bind (using bind.so) program to interface, or use iptables.
[02:24] <semitones> rww: i just have one question about dr who
[02:24] <semitones> oops wrong channel
[02:26] <magicjoe> realtek
[02:35] <Amdpc> Hi..I just formated a partition in ext4.When I click on mount it gives an error and says "Daemon is inhibited".Any ideas ?
[02:35] <bluebird> wow, so many peoples here.
[02:37] <Anubis> Amdpc: see here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604563
[02:37] <mingdao_home> Anubis: was just about to do that ;)
[02:37] <mingdao_home> first hit on Google ;)
[02:39] <Anubis> fix seems to be: sudo killall udisks
[02:40] <Amdpc> Anubis : Thanks :) I think I have to reboot the computer..see u soon..Bye. :)
[02:42] <scx> hello
[02:43] <scx> i want to convert bmp files to jpeg files
[02:43] <arooni-mobile__> is it possible to utilize a wifi connection and a mobile broadband connection at the same time?  and have it be faster than just using one?
[02:43] <scx> i tried: convert *.bmp *.jpeg
[02:44] <Shaba1> Hello all
[02:44] <scx> but i dont want change file names
[02:46] <kazzy> scx, you mean you don't want the extensions to be changed?
[02:46] <Shaba1> I am a experianced windows user. I am just trying out linux using wubi  using ubuntu 11.04. I do have ubuntu classic deskt top on since that seems more familar to me from the previous version I have tried and since it looks more like a windows desktop. My first question is how to I arrange the icons on my desktop to my liking?
[02:46] <sdperez79> what is the alternative to real player?I need the flv downloader!
[02:46] <Shaba1> I see only "Organize Desktop by name" when I right click
[02:46] <hikenboot> anyone in here install cacti with plugin architecture patch
[02:46] <Shaba1> and a lot of the icon names seems to overlap each other
[02:48] <sdperez79> what do i need to be able to download flv videos from anysite
 : Are you talking about youtube ?
[02:48] <xial> hey
[02:48] <sdperez79> yes,youtube and other sites that have flv files
[02:50] <segol> Can only get 960x529 @ 0Hz apparently on an IBM G78 6627-4AN being pushed by an Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 03), I know this screen and GPU can do 1600x1200@60Hz as well as 1024x768@85Hz
[02:51] <segol> sdperez79 I know you used to be able to pull the videos from /tmp
[02:51] <eblume> Hi, I have what I think is a very basic question that I'm astonished I don't know and can't find the answer to. I have a file that is owned by user X and group Y with permissions rwxrwx---. If user B is also a member of group Y, shouldn't she be able to change the permissions of the file?
 : To download from youtube,Open the video in the browser and replace the www.youtube.com/<link> with www.keep-tube.com/<link>.
 This only works for youtube...I dont know for other sites ;)
[02:52] <ChogyDan> sdperez79: I know there are firefox plugins that do it
[02:53] <segol> sdperez79 I remember someone posted a script that pulled the .flv files from wherever they're stored now
[02:54] <sdperez79> thanks ,thats the only thing i miss about windwos
[02:54] <Shaba1> Hello any answer for me?
[02:54] <sdperez79> *windows
[02:54] <camurp0> If I am just listening to music on computer and I don't need to put the music on a portable media player, should I use .mp3 or .ogg?
[02:54] <Jordan_U> eblume: "The application shall ensure that the effective user ID of the process matches the owner of the file or the process has appropriate privileges in order to do this." http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/chmod.html
[02:55] <segol> Shaba1 right click the desktop and uncheck "keep aligned"
[02:56] <Jordan_U> eblume: So, barring special odd privileges gained through other means beyond classic *NIX permissions, to change the permissions of a file you must own said file.
[02:56] <scx> kazzy: i tried "mogrify -format jpg *.bmp" and it works for me as i want
[02:56] <Shaba1> I had that checked segol
[02:56] <eblume> Jordan_U: If I have a set of files which I want a group of users to be able to access, I should probably add the users to a group and make the group the group-owner of the files, right? So that works fine, but my followup question is - does what you just linked mean those users can never change the permissions of the file?
[02:56] <Shaba1> but it really did not seem to do anyting
[02:56] <codehotter> When I type in a java web start application, sometimes it stops responding to keyboard input for several seconds, after which I can use the keyboard again. I'm giving the input to a text box, the cursor is still blinking while it does not accept my input.
[02:57] <scx> sdperez79: try youtube-dl
[02:57] <knightrage> sdperez79: missed your question, but if you're trying to grab FLVs from websites, check http://n00bsys0p.wordpress.com/2011/02/10/how-to-download-flash-10-2-video-streams-in-linux/ . don't do anything illegal :p
[02:57] <Jordan_U> eblume: Correct.
[02:57] <eblume> Jordan_U: To put it another way, is it true to say that if you have two distinct users X and Y and neither are root, you can't have it so that both X and Y can change permissions of the file?
[02:57] <Shaba1> I still have some icons overlap each other
[02:58] <eblume> Jordan_U: I just want to be very sure I understand this. Thanks very much. :)
[02:58] <segol>  Shaba1 the desktop itself is very limited on how it organizes, no idea why it's the only place that only allows organization by name or none at all
[02:58] <Jordan_U> eblume: Correct.
[02:58] <Shaba1> Ok thanks segold.
[02:59] <Shaba1> I guess I will just have to make folders on the desktop and organize them myself
[02:59] <eblume> Jordan_U: Ok, thank you very much. One other quick question. If I really, badly needed the above ability, would it be generally secure to set up a 'sudo' profile that allowed members of that group to execute commands as a non-privileged user who is the owner of those files?
[02:59] <scx> Shaba1: try fallback mode
[02:59] <eblume> Jordan_U: and thereby allow file permission changes?
[02:59] <sdperez79> thanks knight rage,i just dl music videos and others for work we dont have internet out there...
[03:00] <Shaba1> scx: what is fallback mode?
[03:00] <codehotter> eblume: It's often more productive to try to go a level higher to what you really, in the end, want to achieve, rather than insisting in doing it in a particular way that the system was not designed to accomodate. You're swimming uphill, so to speak.
[03:00] <Shaba1> and how does one 'try' it?
[03:01] <eblume> codehotter: I absolutely do agree. Conceptually though the challenge is a requirement handed to me in which a group of users need the ability to flag a file as read-only, after it was originally generated as read-and-writeable by the group.
[03:02] <john> latest firefox killed my bookmarks and removed google as search engine
[03:02] <john> can't say I like it
[03:02] <eblume> codehotter: I absolutely 100% agree that it's a flawed requirement to begin with due to the fact that having the permission to change security means that setting a file as read-only doesn't provide any actualy security. But it's a requirement. :(
[03:02] <eblume> s/actualy/actual/
[03:02] <codehotter> eblume: It is often possible to go to your superiors and get the requirement that is handed to you changed. In many cases, figuring out what the superior really needs can save you both time and trouble
[03:03] <MTPrower> john: Firefox is amazing. I've never had any problems with it. Been using it for years.
[03:03] <eblume> codehotter: I'll do my best to try and get it changed. To give you an idea though, the PREVIOUS requirement was to have these documents synthesized as PDF's because PDF's "can't be edited". I tried very hard to explain how untrue that was and finally got it changed... to this.
[03:03] <eblume> Thanks everyone! I feared this was the case.
[03:04] <john> don't think this has anything to do with firefox, its the ubuntu extension for it that screws up
[03:05] <john> right now I can't even add google as search engine
[03:05] <qin> eblume: You can add users to same group, man chmod, man chown, man adduser.
[03:05] <codehotter> eblume: why are your superiors suggesting technical solutions for you to implement? You're the one with technical expertise ; ) Let them suggest what they really need - without any technical words - and let you implement the solution - which we'll help you with. But we can't help you with the specific way in which you're trying to solve the problem.
[03:05] <eblume> qin: Thanks. We just established however that adding users to the group doesn't allow those users to change the permissions, which is the requirements.
[03:06] <john> had to disable the ubuntu addon to get rid of the Ask-shit
[03:06] <segol> Can only get 960x529 @ 0Hz apparently on an IBM G78 6627-4AN being pushed by an Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 03), I know this screen and GPU can do 1600x1200@60Hz as well as 1024x768@85Hz
[03:06] <qin> eblume: whats, why: man chown
[03:07] <eblume> codehotter: FDA regulation is a very strange beast in which people who know nothing about software development made sometimes-specific and sometimes-vague proclamations about what is and isn't required. THis particular requirement reads something like 'after being created, patient data files must not be editable'. I'm working with the people who interpreted that as 'permissions!' to make them understand that other systems can work for
[03:08] <scx> Shaba1: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/fallback-mode.html
[03:08] <scx> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gnome-3-fallback.html
[03:08] <eblume> qin: I'm not sure what you mean. Are you suggesting that the users use chown to change the ownership of the file so they can then chmod? I was fairly certain that only root can chown a file
[03:09] <eblume> qin: or possibly the file owner, but certainly not 'group owners'
[03:09] <codehotter> eblume: OK, so what system is creating the patient data files?
[03:09] <mingdao_home> Am I the only one who feels it necessary to "export LC_COLLATE=C
[03:09] <eblume> codehotter: Don't worry about it, I'm sure I can take it from here. I was just feeling stupid that I didn't know the 'rules' for group ownership & chmod.
[03:09] <Shaba1> Ok I just did and apt-get install qrencode
[03:09] <eblume> codehotter: thanks though!
[03:09] <Shaba1> how do I know where those files were placed?
[03:09] <qin> eblume: Thats right.
[03:10] <john> seems like nearly none of the search engines can be added to firefox now
[03:10] <eblume> qin: OK, so I think we've worked all that out then.
[03:10] <eblume> Thanks again all.
[03:10] <ubuntu_> hey guys can any1 give some quick advice with dual booting
[03:11] <ubuntu_> anyyonnee?
[03:11] <john> I really hope this is _not_ a planned feature of Ubuntu or this release of the distro will be the last one
[03:11] <devkorcvince> ubuntu_: FORMAT C:
[03:11] <devkorcvince> ubuntu_: Joke
[03:11] <ubuntu_> OH NO TOO LATE I DID IT
[03:11] <ubuntu_> NOO WTF IS HAPPENING
[03:12] <FloodBot1> ubuntu_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:12] <ToZ> john, I just had a Firefox update come through thats fixed the search engine problem
[03:12] <devkorcvince> ubuntu_: If your running windows and ubuntu install windows first then install ubuntu second in separate part...
[03:12] <ubuntu_> devkorcvince: ive done that however
[03:13] <ubuntu_> devkorcvince: it is now asking me which partition to install ubuntu itself onto
[03:13] <Ibis> By any chance, while working in a Terminal for Ubuntu-Server, will it ask you, or inform you that you need to Reboot the server when it makes Updates that requires a reboot for it to take effect?
[03:13] <john> how the heck did they manage to get _every_ search engine to be broken
[03:13] <john> ;/
[03:13] <ubuntu_> devkorcvince: but I can't tell which partition I should install ubuntu on, because it wont let me view any of them in archive so I can't tell which one had data on it,
[03:13] <Ibis> I don't want to reboot my srver for no reason.
[03:14] <ubuntu_> devkorcvince: do you think if I have one that has 1572 MB its enough to install ubuntu onto?
[03:14] <devkorcvince> ubuntu_: just install to the blank part? did you setup your partitions?
[03:14] <Stanley00> Ibis: I dont think there will be one,
[03:14] <Ibis> Stanley00: Then how would I know when to reboot?
[03:14] <penos> i think ubuntu should have based unity on gnome 3 not gnome 2
[03:14] <ubuntu_> devkorcvince: it doesnt let me set up my partitions it just says "full installation *OR* something else and then leads me to this, showing me the partitions that exist and saying to pick one
[03:15] <Stanley00> Ibis: anyway, reboot after update is a acceptable reason ;)
[03:15] <ChogyDan> penos: I don't think it is based on either
[03:15] <Jordan_U> !ot | penos
[03:15] <ubuntu_> devkorcvince: then it says if I pick "new partition table" that it will delete all current partitions if i make a new one....
[03:16] <Ibis> But I would  rather bee seen as a reliable server host :S
[03:16] <ubuntu_> devkorcvince: So if I install ubuntu onto my Windows Recovery Environment will it cause no problems??
[03:16] <ubuntu_> I dont even have a windows disk
[03:16] <codehotter> Ibis: you reboot during your maintenance windows, which you've specified in your (formal or informal) service level agreement with your customers.
[03:17] <ubuntu_> cus the windows recovery environment loader has like  6614 MB
[03:17] <devkorcvince> ubuntu_: Click The Advance or Manual Button to setup partitions... then you will find your window partion labeled with ntfs...
[03:17] <tnud> Hi, I'm having problems running a bash script (running a jar) under cron, it starts fine but gets an exception during the process. I've activated the root account and added it to its crontab. Still same issue :/ Is there some variables I can set so it uses the same java and dirs as another user?
[03:17] <ubuntu_> devkorcvince: K ill try that but just so you know it lists all 5 of them as NTFS right now lol
[03:18] <tnud> This does not happen when I run it as the user or as root regularly
[03:18] <ubuntu_> devkorcvince: Where is the Advance or Manual button it's not in the install options..
[03:18] <ubuntu_> D:
[03:18] <codehotter> tnud: What is the exception?
[03:19] <devkorcvince> ubuntu_: For safer way to partition. go back to your window and delete the partition that you want ubuntu to be installed in...
[03:19] <tnud> codehotter: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /root/.tectonicus/native/liblwjgl.so: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.26/jre/lib/amd64/libjawt.so: symbol awt_FreeDrawingSurface, version SUNWprivate_1.1 not defined in file libmawt.so with link time reference
[03:19] <tnud> It's a minecraft map renderer..
[03:19] <codehotter> tnud: I recommend that you do not run applications as root
[03:19] <tnud> Yes I know
[03:20] <ubuntu_> devkorcvince: Ugh but I have a completely empty disk drive right now so i'd just rather use that
[03:20] <tnud> I'm testing running it as root to find the problem
[03:20] <ubuntu_> devkorcvince: cus its using nothing now, but thing i s i just dont know how to select it in this install menu
[03:20] <tnud> cause it isn't working running as user dell either
[03:20] <urlin2u> ubuntu_, you have 2 HD's
[03:20] <ubuntu_> urlin2u: OH ok how do I tell which one is that smaller empty one? to install onto?
[03:20] <devkorcvince> devkorcvince: For easy dual boot install window first...
[03:20] <codehotter> tnud: can you paste the exception from your non-root user please?
[03:21] <urlin2u> ubuntu_, you can run fdisk -l in the terminal y=to identify ut then use the something else inthe palcement
[03:21] <devkorcvince> ubuntu_: For easy dual boot install window first... cause it would be pain for you to restore grub if you install ubuntu first
[03:21] <urlin2u> it*
[03:21] <ubuntu_> devkorcvince: my windows is installed already
[03:22] <ubuntu_> devckorcvince: im on the ubuntu CD atm
[03:22] <ubuntu_> devkorcvince*
[03:22] <codehotter> ubuntu_: while installing windows, did you explicitly leave space for ubuntu on your harddisk? Otherwise, windows may have claimed all the available space as NTFS (windows' filesystem)
[03:22] <urlin2u> ubuntu_, can you run the fdisk -l and pastebin it?
[03:22] <ubuntu_> urlin2u: OK Ill run that
[03:22] <ubuntu_> codehotter: I have one of my disk drives empty for it , a really small one
[03:23] <ubuntu_> codehotter: but yea its all labled NTFS
[03:23] <ubuntu_> so fdisk -l is safe?
[03:23] <tnud> codehotter: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /home/dell/.tectonicus/native/liblwjgl.so: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.26/jre/lib/amd64/libjawt.so: symbol awt_FreeDrawingSurface, version SUNWprivate_1.1 not defined in file libmawt.so with link time reference
[03:23] <Shaba1> I just installed wubi
[03:23] <urlin2u> ubuntu_, yes
[03:23] <Shaba1> It installed like a charm
[03:23] <tnud> same one..
[03:23] <Shaba1> and saved me from having to repartition my HD
[03:23] <tnud> This only happens when running through cron
[03:24] <ubuntu_> wtf
[03:24] <ubuntu_> i put in fdisk -l and nothing happeened
[03:24] <zykotick9> ubuntu_, FYI you need to use "sudo fdisk -l" to see anything listed.  urlin2u note.
[03:24] <ubuntu_> oh
[03:24] <tnud> sudo makes the world go around
[03:24] <ubuntu_> OK now I see this fdisk menu
[03:24] <urlin2u> zykotick9, live cd
[03:24] <ubuntu_> yea i havent used ubuntu in like 2 years so i forgot about sudo lol
[03:24] <tnud> :P
[03:24] <ubuntu_> urlin2u the livecd worked with sudo though
[03:24] <urlin2u> Shaba1, read this before you get ti used to wubi http://howsoftwareisbuilt.com/2009/03/12/interview-with-agostino-russo-wubi-ubuntu/
[03:25] <ubuntu_> urlin2u: anyways I see this fdisk menu now , now what.. lol its the same stuff that shows up on my "install" menu
[03:25] <urlin2u> ubuntu_, tep
[03:25] <urlin2u> yep*
[03:25] <ubuntu_> ?? oh  you wanted me to copy paste results right
[03:25] <codehotter> tnud: You've confirmed you're running the same command in cron as in your terminal? Can you pastebin your environment?
[03:25] <urlin2u> ubuntu_, pastebin it so we can identify the place you want ubuntu.
[03:25] <tnud> exactly the same
[03:25] <john> menu seems  to be stuck on previous apps more often than not now
[03:25] <tnud> same script
[03:26] <ubuntu_> OK NOOB alert but idk how to use pastebin -_   -
[03:26] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | ubuntu_
[03:26] <ubuntu_> o thx jordan
[03:26] <urlin2u> ubuntu_, paste here and post the htp
[03:26] <urlin2u> http
[03:26] <tnud> codehotter: /etc/environment?
[03:26] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_: You're welcome.
[03:26] <codehotter> tnud: sorry, can you pastebin the output of 'env' from your terminal and cron?
[03:26] <urlin2u> ubuntu_,
 ubuntu_: You're welcome.
[03:26] <segol> Can only get 960x529 @ 0Hz apparently on an IBM G78 6627-4AN being pushed by an Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 03), I know this screen and GPU can do 1600x1200@60Hz as well as 1024x768@85Hz
[03:27] <ubuntu_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/697028/
[03:27] <ubuntu_> urlin2u: thx bro can u check that ?
[03:27] <ubuntu_> v
[03:27] <ubuntu_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/697028/
[03:27] <urlin2u> ubuntu_, so are you backed up as of now?
[03:28] <ubuntu_> urlin2u: no, not really but I figured aslong as I don't install overtop of my windows and erase all my shit im good
[03:28] <ubuntu_> urlin2u: bcus I did it like that before... i know you're not suposed to but its gonna take  a while to reboot into windows and have to backup all my crap onto disks, I have ALOT of crap lol
[03:29] <urlin2u> ubuntu_, yo will have to loose a partition, as you have 4 primaries the limit, so back up first , and figure which one you can loose,
[03:29] <ubuntu_> like the way i did it 2 years ago was i just installed onto new partition, and then could view my windows files thru ubuntu's (whatever u call the windows explorer equivalent) and then dragged them
[03:29] <ubuntu_> urlin2u I'm pretty sure SDA1 and SDA4 are OK to lose right
[03:29] <ubuntu_> i mean the one with the * is the one that has windows on it right
[03:30] <urlin2u> ubuntu_, I don't know whats in them you do, so what is there?
[03:30] <codehotter> ubuntu_: I would reinstall windows and leave some free space in the windows setup to be honest
[03:30] <ubuntu_> urlin2u: I have nothing on any of my drives except the C drive which I have windows installed on
[03:30] <codehotter> unless you're absolutely confident that you know what is on those partitions and that you don't need it.
[03:30] <ubuntu_> thing is codehotter I dont have any windows install disk it came with this laptop
[03:30] <Shaba1> ok I have the .deb for google chrome
[03:30] <Shaba1> How do I install it?
[03:31] <ubuntu_> codehotter: and also I have no files on anything but my main C drive
[03:31] <codehotter> ubuntu_: OK, so you added an empty extra drive, that is to say, a physical hard disk, to your computer, so you can install ubuntu?
[03:31] <ubuntu_> codehotter: no it was always there since I first got this comp, i dont know why maybe just for extra storage space like music or something
[03:32] <codehotter> ubuntu_: OK. Do you have windows 7?
[03:32] <ubuntu_> codehotter: no vista
[03:32] <ubuntu_> urlin2u: I dono where you went buddy but I wanna say thx for halping me and I love u bro
[03:32] <escott> Shaba1, chromium-browser is in apt
[03:33] <urlin2u> ubuntu_, I think sda1 is to small, sda3 and sda4 are both small how much space do you want
[03:33] <Shaba1> so just type sudo apt-get install Chromium-brower in a terminal window escott ?
[03:33] <john> search engines back, rollback of bookmarks seems to fail
[03:33] <ubuntu_> urlin2u: oh yeah I know they're all super small but thing is I was thinking, after I install ubuntu doesn't it give me option to resize the partitions
[03:33] <escott> Shaba1, unless you care for the google branding that would probably be better
[03:34] <urlin2u> ubuntu_, you running W7?
[03:34] <tnud> codehotter: http://pastebin.com/DjYqjLH2  wow..
[03:34] <ubuntu_> urlin2u: so I could take size off of the main huge windows one that isn't being used
[03:34] <ubuntu_> urlin2u: no VISTA
[03:34] <codehotter> ubuntu_: To do this safely, you need to backup your files and shrink your NTFS volume.
[03:34] <tnud> codehotter: one is quite a bit smaller then the first :P
[03:34] <Shaba1> google branding?
[03:34] <Shaba1> what is that?
[03:34] <ubuntu_> codehotter: It'll take like 4 hours to backup all my files though, also I dono how to shrink the volume
[03:34] <tnud> codehotter: or maybe I just failed the pipe?  env > /home/dell/env.txt ?
[03:35] <escott> Shaba1, i dont know exactly what the difference is, but its presumably not in the code. its only in the name, and one is from google the other is just recompiled from the same code. so one has the branding the other doesnt
[03:36] <ubuntu_> urlin2u: but do you know, after you install ubuntu does it give you an option to resize partitions etc.? Like I could take the unused space of the huge partition using windows and add that unused space to the one using Ubuntu?
[03:36] <codehotter> ubuntu_: of course I recommend to backup your files regardless ~ ~ ~
[03:36] <escott> ubuntu_, you want to resize before installing
[03:36] <ubuntu_> oh man how do u resize...
[03:36] <MTPrower> Hello awesome fun peeps. I need some newbie help.
[03:36] <escott> ubuntu_, use gparted which is on the livecd part of the livecd
[03:36] <codehotter> tnud: I think the pipe worked OK
[03:37] <urlin2u> ubuntu_ theoretically yes, but I think your not being backed up here is raising red flags for all of us to be honest.
[03:37] <urlin2u> ubuntu_, no recovery disc ethier
[03:37] <ubuntu_> urlin2u: oh I know what you mean and thx for the concern even i am sort of concerned about that
[03:37] <rww> ubuntu_: resizing partitions without backing up is a really bad idea
[03:37] <ubuntu_> really
[03:37] <rww> do not do that.
[03:37] <ubuntu_> o dang
[03:37] <rww> yes, really.
[03:37] <ubuntu_> OK
[03:37] <ubuntu_> so if I dont resize anything
[03:37] <FloodBot1> ubuntu_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:38] <ubuntu_> and just create a new one out of the empty ones I have, is that safe?
[03:38] <rww> sigh
[03:38] <rww> just do yourself a favor and make a backup
[03:38] <ubuntu_> rww: yeah Sigh because never backing up can't be safe but I'm talking about in comparison isn't it safer
[03:38] <rww> it'll take four hours, but presumably will take longer than four hours to recreate if it breaks
[03:38] <devkorcvince> ubuntu_: urlin2u : i think his recovery disc is the hidden partition but im not sure... my hp dv6 has a hidden part that has a full factory recovery inside it.
[03:39] <ubuntu_> rww: Lol. OK fine I'll backup , you mean just put my important files onto a disk right
[03:39] <MTPrower> So ummm... when you have MP3's on Windows, album art is created and stored in the same folder as the MP3's. I dunno what Kubuntu does. But the album art is hidden on Windows, out of sight. That same album art is in plain site in Kubuntu. Can I make that album art invisible in Kubuntu like it is in Windows?
[03:39] <urlin2u> devkorcvince,  mean a disc top run a recovery a bootable disc to fix the mbr...etc
[03:39] <urlin2u> I
[03:39]  * ScottSanbar remembers his first concert - Santana at the Zoo Amphitheater and rocking out to Jimi Hendrix vinyl LPs with his Fender Stratocaster
[03:39] <mingdao_home> ubuntu_: sudo blkid    will tell you about your partitions
[03:39] <MTPrower> *in plain sight
[03:40] <Shaba1> escott,  well that did not work
[03:40] <DropsOfSerenity> I'm on 64 bit ubuntu, my sound works fine normally, but when running skype I cannot hear sound in flash, I close the skype call and I can hear it, and vice versa, running flash I cannot hear sound in skype, and when i close flash, skype works fine, All other sound works, playing music with skype or with flash, works fine.
[03:40] <Shaba1> I did sudo apt-get install chromium-brower
[03:40] <tnud> codehotter: Tricky? :P
[03:40] <MTPrower> Should I repeat my question?
[03:40] <cdh473> so, why are we using chromium here and not chrome?
[03:40] <sjihs> Hi, How can i know the name of the package that provides autoreconf command
[03:40] <Shaba1> I got E: Unable to locate chromnium-browser
[03:41] <cdh473> chrome has a prettier icon
[03:41] <mingdao_home> ubuntu_: my recovery partition: /dev/sda3: LABEL=""Lenovo_Recovery"" UUID="2ABC5F23BC5EE939" TYPE="ntfs"
[03:41]  * ScottSanbar apologizes for irssi wrong window post
[03:41] <codehotter> tnud: can you try from your normal terminal: env -i $(cat /tmp/crontabenv) <your script> ?
[03:41] <ubuntu_> mingdao OK i'll try sudo blkid
[03:41] <MTPrower> Are you all busy?
[03:41] <rww> Shaba1: spell it correctly, then ;)
[03:42] <urlin2u> MTPrower, people answer if they want or know.
[03:42] <codehotter> tnud: the point is to try the same environment crontab has in your normal terminal, to isolate the issue to environment. The file /tmp/crontabenv contains the env output from env as run under crontab.
[03:42] <escott> !info chromium-browser
[03:42] <DropsOfSerenity> I'm on 64 bit ubuntu, my sound works fine normally, but when running skype I cannot hear sound in flash, I close the skype call and I can hear it, and vice versa, running flash I cannot hear sound in skype, and when i close flash, skype works fine, All other sound works, playing music with skype or with flash, works fine.
[03:42] <netzsooc> if I am moving /home to it's own partition, how much space should I let in OS own partition?
[03:42] <edbian> netzsooc: ~10Gb
[03:43] <tnud> codehotter: /tmp/crontabenv does not exsist
[03:43] <MTPrower> urlin2u: "if they want or know"? What does that mean?
[03:43] <codehotter> tnud: yes, please create it ; )
[03:43] <mingdao_home> netzsooc: depends upon how much you will install and how much total free space you have
[03:43] <urlin2u> MTPrower, want means if they want to, know menas if they know the answer, you have to realize that not every question is known right away.
[03:44] <devkorcvince> netzsooc: if your running a development machine 40G or 60G and more would be great for your / part
[03:44] <mingdao_home> devkorcvince: if he asks that he's not ;)
[03:44] <MTPrower> urlin2u: Yeah, I understand. It's just that if know one says anything directly to me at all, I wonder if they even heard me.
[03:45] <devkorcvince> netzsooc: but if you want to install your dev tools inside your /home 20G might be enough for your / part..
[03:45] <DropsOfSerenity> no one knows?
[03:45] <tnud> codehotter: I get the error.
[03:45] <netzsooc> I am planning to install different distros. My HD is ~600 G but I don't know how much to let /home
[03:45] <codehotter> tnud: OK, so that means the environment is the problem.
[03:46] <netzsooc> I want to have 3 or 4 distros sharing same /home and swap
[03:46] <tnud> Yep, I though it was
[03:46] <Arctico> hola?
[03:46] <devkorcvince> mingdao_home: sorry I just generalize cause may be he might be a developer or technical cause regular user wont bother using separate part for / and /home
[03:46] <somsip> DropsOfSerenity: what version of Skype?
[03:46] <DropsOfSerenity> the latest version
[03:46] <mingdao_home> netzsooc: mingdao@ThinkPad-T420:~$ df -h
[03:46] <mingdao_home> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[03:46] <mingdao_home> /dev/sda5              24G  3.0G   21G  13%
[03:46] <escott> netzsooc, one reason not to do that would be that if the different distros have different versions of gnome you could easily end up with a broken gnome preferences
[03:46] <tnud> codehotter: Now how do I get crontab to work with dell or root environment.. Is there an alternative program that doesn't ahve this problem?
[03:46] <codehotter> tnud: please don't consider running as root
[03:47] <codehotter> tnud: it's irresponsible
[03:47] <mingdao_home> MTPrower: to answer your question demands asking somem questions ... are you game?
[03:47] <codehotter> tnud: Do you get the error if you run (in your normal terminal, in the directory /home/dell ?
[03:47] <tnud> codehotter: Sorry haha
[03:47] <somsip> DropsOfSerenity: I've had no end of problems with that and found recommendations to stick to  skype_2.1.0.81,which I do and all is fine
[03:47] <Shaba2> Well that was strange
[03:47] <Shaba2> I just got a black sreen of death
[03:47] <MTPrower> mingdao_home: yeah. Shoot.
[03:48] <tnud> codehotter: No
[03:48] <netzsooc> so, escott, you suggest just to install the different distros with no sharing home?
[03:48] <netzsooc> but then documents would be all over
[03:48] <mingdao_home> MTPrower: who is the album art hidden *from* on windows, and who do you want to hide it from in buntu?
[03:48] <tnud> codehotter: cd /home/dell and then ./path/to/script works
[03:49] <urlin2u> netzsooc, you can have a shared partition with documents..etc
[03:49] <codehotter> tnud: OK, I notice PATH is different, that may be relevant. Can you try setting PATH at the top of your script?
[03:49] <mingdao_home> MTPrower: because in windows it's just someone's idea of how to display files/directories that can easily be changed
[03:49] <tnud> codehotter: How do I do that and what should it contain :O
[03:50] <MTPrower> mingdao_home: the album art is hidden from everybody in Windows. All you have to do is go to Folder Options > View > show hidden files and folders. It's basically used for files that need to be there but do not need to be seen.
[03:50] <codehotter> copy the line starting with PATH= from the output of env in your normal terminal
[03:50] <Anon2553> I have a quick question if anyone can help. Running Ubuntu Server 11.04, this is probably an easy question. But out of the blue, I can't see anything I type into console. It's making things difficult in the realm of typos. Everything still works as normal if I type it properly, but long commands are a headache
[03:50] <escott> netzsooc, i would be wary of sharing $HOME/.config. perhaps create a partition with folders for the different parts of home (Documents,Downloads etc) and symlink into that mountpoint
[03:50] <codehotter> and put it near the top of your script
[03:50] <netzsooc> urlin2u and then each distro will have its own /home but sharing docs and stuff? but what about preferences for some apps
[03:50] <mingdao_home> MTPrower: in a Linux distro you have the ability to do similar depending upon your DE/WM/file browser
[03:51] <mingdao_home> MTPrower: the question is ... why is it important to hide these files? Linux (generically) is a true multiuser system and as such your files as a user should no even be visible to "everybody"
[03:51] <MTPrower> mingdao_home: I don't want to hide the album art in Linux, literally. I just want to make it invisible.
[03:52] <urlin2u> netzsooc, I would have a single partition with each distro, and a shred for the docs, music,etc and one swap, I have 7 OS on my one drive just like that except for the share partition
[03:52] <mingdao_home> MTPrower: then ask "How do I make directories 'invisible' in <file browser>?"
[03:52] <urlin2u> shred=shared
[03:52] <tnud> codehotter: Nope, still same error
[03:52] <mingdao_home> MTPrower: and there I can't help you because I *never* use one :-)
[03:52] <MTPrower> mingdao_home: you don't understand. I'm not hiding it from people. I'm not protecting it. I'm hiding it from view. The reason is because it's album art in an MP3 folder. Without the album art there, there would be no album art in the MP3 files. However, I don't want to see the art in the folder-- no one would. I just want to see the music.
[03:53] <escott> MTPrower, folders that begin with "." are not shown in the listings. that is how you hide folders
[03:53] <netzsooc> ok, so if I don't move /home how do I create a specific disc for /home/Docs /home/Music /home/Downloads etc... any manual or how to on that?
[03:53] <codehotter> tnud: OK. You want the script to work under crontab, but you probably don't want to just copy your whole environment over. Are you familiar with binary search?
[03:53] <tnud> I've implemented it in java once
[03:54] <tnud> That's about it :P
[03:54] <escott> netzsooc, create a partition and inside it have Docs,Music,etc... then either symlink $HOME/Documents to /media/myfolder/Docs or modify .config/user-dirs.dirs
[03:54] <MTPrower> escott: I can't change the name of these files. If I did, Windows would not be able to see them. I'm dual-booting Kubuntu and Windows 7, and I'm sharing my videos, music, and comics between the two OS's
[03:54] <codehotter> tnud: near the top of your script, put ". /tmp/environment" - this will cause it to run /tmp/environment. Then, first, put the output from your normal terminal in /tmp/environment, run your script, and see if you get the error
[03:54] <MTPrower> *Windows would not be able to see = the MP3 would not see the art
[03:55] <MTPrower> escott: *Windows would not be able to see = the MP3 would not see the art
[03:55] <escott> MTPrower, its just not going to work then, unless you modify the ntfs-3g code to rename the NTFS hidden folders on the fly to .foldername
[03:55] <giiker2> anyone knows of an app to edit pdf files where I can have the option of adding restrictions (print,edit,copy,etc.) or watermarks, encryption?
[03:56] <MTPrower> escott: I'm not hiding a folder. I'm hiding files
[03:56] <tnud> codehotter: so force the script to load the whole environment then?
[03:56] <sgerbino> does anyone know if eclipse indigo will make it in to 11.10? anyway I can find out?
[03:56] <MTPrower> escott: if I hide the folder, I won't be able to get to my music
[03:56] <codehotter> tnud: step 2: take out the bottom half of the environment and see if it still works
[03:56] <urlin2u> sgerbino, yes in ubuntu+1
[03:57] <escott> MTPrower, whatever you are trying to do, I'm trying to tell you that it cannot be easily done
[03:57] <sgerbino> urlin2u whats ubuntu+1?
[03:57] <codehotter> tnud: if it still works, take out the bottom half of the top half, and see if it still works. Etc. Until you have the minimum you need to get it to work
[03:57] <tnud> codehotter: ahahaha, good idea :P
[03:57] <urlin2u> sgerbino, the oneiric channel
[03:57] <codehotter> tnud: make sure you run the script with env -i /path/to/script
[03:57] <codehotter> to prevent it from inheritting  the environment from your terminal
[03:58] <escott> giiker2, those restrictions usually are ineffective, so most open-source software doesn't even bother to implement them
[03:58] <sgerbino> urlin2u: I'm using oneiric now, but it seems like I still have Galileo
[03:58] <netzsooc> escott, something like ln --symbolic newPartition/Docs $HOME/Documents or the other way around?
[03:58] <MTPrower> ...have any of you guys ever used Windows 7? Because it seems that the ones offering support to me don't know much about it.
[03:58] <sgerbino> urlin2u: I also purged and re-installed
[03:58] <tnud> codehotter: wait.. so env -i $(cat /home/dell/normalEnv.txt) /path/to/script ?
[03:58] <escott> netzsooc, pretty much
[03:59] <MTPrower> ...actually, they didn't seem to know much about Windows in general
[03:59] <escott> netzsooc, you'll have to remove the existing folder first
[03:59] <codehotter> nono, put ". /home/dell/normalEnv.txt" in your scrpit itself, then run it with env -i /path/to/script
[03:59] <tnud> ah
[03:59] <urlin2u> sgerbino, all things oneiric are on #ubuntu+1 it will be on this channel at realeae. :D
[03:59] <codehotter> is the .txt a nasty habit from your windows days? ; )
[04:00] <MTPrower> ...Windows 7 was a nearly-perfect OS. It seems Linux can't do some basic Windows tasks that I had taken for granted. Like having invisible files...
[04:00] <urlin2u> release*
[04:00] <escott> MTPrower, it can it just does them differently
[04:00] <MTPrower> escott: probably, but it sure doesn't do them as easily
[04:00] <Ibis> MTPrower: You was the one askign for chat clients the other day, right?
[04:00] <segol> Can only get 960x529 @ 0Hz apparently on an IBM G78 6627-4AN being pushed by an Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 03), I know this screen and GPU can do 1600x1200@60Hz as well as 1024x768@85Hz
[04:00] <ex0> rofl u can do steganography in linux...
[04:01] <MTPrower> Ibis: dun remember. I got Pidgin the other day. Now I'm trying the one built in
[04:02] <netzsooc> then would be mv -r $HOME/Documents /media/newPart/Docs && rm -r $HOME/Documents && ln --symbolic /media/newPart/Docs $HOME/Documents
[04:02] <giiker2> escott, I know, but Iḿ trying to do it  'cause I don't want the receiver to be able to do that! they use Winblows!!
[04:03] <MTPrower> Ibis: we did talk a lot the other day though
[04:03] <MTPrower> Ibis: and I'm pretty new
[04:03] <tnud> codehotter: HMM, still failing.. In crontab: 2 6 * * * env -i /path/to/script  | in script . /home/dell/normalEnv  ?
[04:03] <codehotter> tnud: try without crontab, just from your normal terminal
[04:03] <netzsooc> esoctt, then it would be mv -r $HOME/Documents /media/newPart/Docs && rm -r $HOME/Documents && ln --symbolic /media/newPart/Docs $HOME/Documents
[04:03] <codehotter> env -i /path/to/script
[04:04] <giiker2> anyone knows of an app to edit pdf files where I can have the option of adding restrictions (print,edit,copy,etc.) or watermarks, encryption?
[04:04] <escott> netzsooc, i would do those as seperate commands just to be able to verify the work in between but yes
[04:04] <Ibis> MTPrower: Look in the private chat window. I've queried you.
[04:04] <tnud> codehotter: Getting a lot of command not found
[04:05] <tnud> codehotter: looks like the LS_COLORS bit
[04:05] <netzsooc> ok.. thanks a lot escott, and how much would you advise to let the Docs Music Download and stuff partition in order to let enough room to several distros?
[04:06] <codehotter> tnud: OK, what if you put quotes around every line?
[04:06] <urlin2u> giiker2, that is a lot to want I doubt you will get that info here, the web has lists of apps you will have to search I think.
[04:07] <codehotter> tnud: sed -ie "s/\(.*\)/\"\1\"/" /home/dell/normalEnv.txt
[04:08] <escott> netzsooc, du -sh $HOME and account for whatever growth you expect
[04:08] <giiker2> urlin2u: I did not mean to make a list, but just options, sorry, right now I'm trying apps from the Software center, but it takes time, I just need some app that some how can block other people from printing the pdfs at least!
[04:08] <tomvolek> HI ,  I have a dual boot system, I have a data parition which is writeable by both windows and ubuntu.  This parition'sowner is plugdev.  Why is that ?
[04:08] <alkafoo> tomvolek: according to what?
[04:08] <codehotter> gliker2: If you don't mind me asking, why do you want to prevent other people from printing your PDF?
[04:08] <ram0042> Hello #ubuntu, I am setting up a DHCP server. Can any help?
[04:09] <cdh473> tomvolek: have you tried putting the harddrive in a microwave?
[04:09] <giiker2> urlin2u: I laready searched the net, and found dozens of them, that's why I came here
[04:09] <tomvolek> heh :)
[04:09] <escott> tomvolek, because linux and windows permissions are different so it uses plugdev to control access to windows format drives
[04:09] <alkafoo> giiker2: dozens of what?
[04:09] <giiker2> alkafoo: of apps
[04:09] <alkafoo> tomvolek: it's probably because it was auto-mounted, which is probably plugdev's domain
[04:10] <alkafoo> giiker2: for what?
[04:10] <tomvolek> thanks escott, someone had set this box for me .a beginner here
[04:10] <giiker2> alkafoo: really?
[04:10] <alkafoo> tomvolek: if you want more control, use /etc/fstab
[04:10] <alkafoo> giiker2: really what?
[04:10]  * alkafoo just got here
[04:10] <GameBoy> i just scheduled a job using the command at... >> at 21:05 and the script to be executed was just echo testing.. but i couldnt find anything being run. plz help
[04:10] <tomvolek> ls shows 770  for permision,  I am trying to use this parition as a place to put mysql replciation log files ...
[04:10] <alkafoo> GameBoy: you'd have to have told it to echo somewhere you could've seen
[04:10] <tnud> codehotter: Well it worked if I just quoted the lines that were affected (like so XXX="asdkl asdklasd asdlkmas"). Still the same error though, Your thing just qouted the entire lines which didn't do much for the command not found
[04:10] <_Neytiri_> I was wondering if someone knew a command that i could use to move any files with a set file extension from all the directories from my current working directory recurcevally and out them in a specific folder
[04:10] <GameBoy> alkafoo: like..?
[04:10] <alkafoo> GameBoy: you just want to witness at working?
[04:10] <escott> tomvolek, put someone in plugdev and they will be granted automatic access to plugable devices, remove them from plugdev and they won't. if the plugable device has linux permissions they will be correct, if not they may be owned by plugdev
[04:11] <tnud> codehotter: can't find any of them now :P
[04:11] <GameBoy> alkafoo: yes i want to see the execution...
[04:11] <escott> _Neytiri_, find
[04:11] <codehotter> tnud: oh, my bad^^
[04:11] <codehotter> tnud: I should test this before I tell you to try it
[04:11] <alkafoo> _Neytiri_: find  dir/ -iname '*.foo'
[04:11] <tnud> codehotter: Maybe it's not the environment after all :/
[04:11] <tnud> codehotter: haha, no worries :P
[04:11] <_Neytiri_> that wont move the files tho
[04:11] <alkafoo> _Neytiri_: you could use -exec mv {} other/place/ \; or... I think find has a 'move' builtin
[04:11] <GameBoy> alkafoo: i believe if i write to a file it might have done. but i need to see the processes steps using the echo command.. any way?
[04:11] <tomvolek> true,thanks, my regualr user 'foo' can write to it ... i was not familar with the plugdev
[04:12] <giiker2> alkafoo: I previously asked: "anyone knows of an app to edit pdf files where I can have the option of adding restrictions (print,edit,copy,etc.) or watermarks, encryption?"
[04:12] <escott> _Neytiri_, find -iname *.txt -exec mv ...
[04:12] <alkafoo> GameBoy: you need to schedule an echo on a specific terminal?
[04:12] <_Neytiri_> ok
[04:12] <Petskull> does Minitube give everybody an error when downloading videos, or just me?
[04:12] <alkafoo> giiker2: ah
[04:12] <tnud> codehotter: There is a related java problem with this specific file. It's already tricky to get it working in normal terminal. But now I do.. I just want it run at a regular basis :/
[04:12] <codehotter> what about sed -ie "s/=\(.*\)/=\"\1\"/" /home/dell/normalEnv.txt ? ; ) anyway, you're testing from your normal terminal right now, is that right?
[04:12] <alkafoo> giiker2: you know none of those are effective except against the truly ignorant, right?
[04:12] <tnud> yes
[04:12] <tomvolek> ls shows root as the owner and plugdev as user, with 775 permisions, was winderign why is that and where this gets set .. thanks
[04:12] <tnud> codehotter: su dell
[04:13] <tnud> codehotter: "normal" right? :P
[04:13] <codehotter> and it does not work if you env -i /path/to/script, but it does if you sh /path/to/script ?
[04:13] <alkafoo> tomvolek: when you run 'mount', it shows it mounted in /media/, right?
[04:13] <GameBoy> alkafoo: Could you please let me know how?
[04:13] <giiker2> alkafoo: I know, but the people I'm sending th pdf's I'm sending to are truely ignorants soft-wise...
[04:13] <tnud> codehotter: if I remove the . /path to env yes
[04:13] <tomvolek> alkafoo , moiunt shows : /dev/sda6 on /data type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
[04:14] <alkafoo> GameBoy: what use is that?
[04:14] <alkafoo> tomvolek: vfat? wow
[04:14] <codehotter> OK can you print out another "env" after your script did the . /home/dell/normalEnv and check if it's the same as the env from your normal env output?
[04:14] <alkafoo> tomvolek: what does grep -i data /etc/fstab say?
[04:15] <_Neytiri_> also is there a command i can use to change the file name removing 2 numbers and a space before hte part i wnat to keep
[04:15] <GameBoy> alkafoo:  i need to schdeule something where I could see the progress through echo commands.. like copying from a to b status : done etc
[04:15] <alkafoo> _Neytiri_: yes, 'rename' or 'rename.ul'
[04:15] <_Neytiri_> i want to do it all at once tho
[04:15] <tomvolek> I think the reason my freind had set this up as a vfat  was that windows xp was giving us fit .. and thats what worked .... this is a personal dev box by the way
[04:15] <_Neytiri_> i have a music collection i need ot go though and remove all the duplicates and tripilicts
[04:15] <alkafoo> _Neytiri_: each tool to its own job
[04:16] <alkafoo> _Neytiri_: ah, well for that use fdupes
[04:16] <Shaba1> guys. I do not have a printer right now.
[04:16] <alkafoo> Shaba1: bummer
[04:16] <giiker2> anyone knows of an app to edit pdf files where I can have the option of adding restrictions, e.g.: print,edit,copy,etc. or watermarks, encryption?
[04:16] <Shaba1> I have a program for windows called pdf creator that saves a pdf to my hd whenever I want to print something
[04:16] <tomvolek> alkafoo ,  ==>  UUID=16E4-1D1A  /data           vfat    utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[04:16] <codehotter> If you don't mind me asking, gliker2, why do you need to prevent people from printing your PDFs?
[04:16] <alkafoo> I've never heard of a PDF that can block printing, that's sort of the format's purpose
[04:17] <Shaba1> is there such a think for the linux side of this machine?
[04:17] <alkafoo> I'm sure there are apps for the pathetic password protecting, and watermarking, though
[04:17] <alkafoo> Shaba1: yes, chances are you already have it
[04:17] <alkafoo> Shaba1: check for 'print to file' in any print dialog
[04:17] <alkafoo> tomvolek: k
[04:17] <alkafoo> tomvolek: that's pretty weird =P
[04:17] <tomvolek> i see the umask 007, i am wondering if u mask 777 would be a problem ...
[04:17] <codehotter> alkafoo: well, I think Adobe's reader checks for a special flag in the document and refuses to print it if it's there, but most other readers just ignore those "digital restriction management" flags. And you can always print from screen.
[04:18] <tomvolek> ya gid=46 is plugdev
[04:18] <Shaba1> ah cool
[04:18] <Shaba1> very nice
[04:18] <alkafoo> tomvolek: what problem, I thought the only problem was that you didn't understand why it was plugdev
[04:19] <tnud> codehotter: It is not.
[04:19] <giiker2> codehotter: I work as a contractor , and have to convert certain docs to pdf, so I want to start charging for this time i expend in processing them
[04:19] <codehotter> tnud:  how is it different?
[04:19] <tomvolek> true,  no problem, i just remeber few weeks ago, I could not write to that parition as a regular user 'foo' to that parition, but i just tested it and it works.
[04:20]  * Nova685 slaps Nova685 around a bit with a large trout
[04:20] <codehotter> giiker2: How does that require you to prevent printing?
[04:20] <tnud> codehotter: . /home/dell/normalEnv (newline in script) env > /home/dell/anotherEnv should provide the normalEnv in anotherEnv right?
[04:20] <tomvolek> I tried to set the owener of the parition as my linux regualr user, and that does not allow me to write to it from windows os
[04:20] <paulus68> giiker2: perhaps this would be helpfull http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/open-source-linux-pdf-writer.html
[04:20] <ngc604> haven't seen the trout in years
[04:20] <tnud> codehotter: PWD=/home/dell/MinecraftServer/Tectonicus SHLVL=3 _=/usr/bin/env                 <- That's the whole thing
[04:20] <tomvolek> but plugdev seems to work ..
[04:20] <tomvolek> thanks alkafoo.  its all good
[04:21] <giiker2> Shaba1: the program you are talking about lets you protect pdfs with passwords and some other workarounds, but in the linux world, it might not work, or cincurvented
[04:21] <codehotter> tnud: OK, then can you try prefixing every line in /home/dell/normalEnv with "export "
[04:21] <codehotter> tnud: sed -ie "s/$/export /" /home/dell/normalEnv
[04:21] <codehotter> tnud: again, didn't test
[04:21] <paulus68> giiker2:  ord this one http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/best-free-pdf-tools.htm
[04:21] <codehotter> tnud: should probably be ^ instead of $ there
[04:21] <alkafoo> tomvolek: hum, you should be able to set it to use one user in Linux and another in Windows
[04:22] <alkafoo> tomvolek: maybe with uid=, I forget
[04:22] <alkafoo> tomvolek: what do you use the Windows install for?
[04:23] <giiker2> codehotter: well, If I want to start charging for the processing of these docs that I deliver by email, how Am I going to prevent the client from not paying for my time?
[04:23] <tomvolek> windows install is used for certain windows app that I can not run under linux,  ..yes not even in virtualization mode :(
[04:23] <alkafoo> giiker2: get the money up front
[04:23] <tnud> codehotter: omg....
[04:23] <alkafoo> tomvolek: oh, which I'm curious
[04:23] <tnud> codehotter: Yes it was ^instead of $... It's WORKING
[04:23] <codehotter> tnud: huh, what?
[04:24] <tnud> codehotter: Thanks! HA! So relived xD
[04:24] <codehotter> tnud: OK, now time to search ; ) or you can be lazy and copy the whole env
[04:24] <codehotter> I recommend taking the extra time, it may help us understand what happened here
[04:24] <tomvolek> I use this integration sofware , it has some native windows calls,  it wont run under linux
[04:24] <giiker2> alkafoo: I can explain here how i do my work and all of the details, but  what I can say is that besides charging per hour for my job, I really need to charge for these waste of time of proccessing these pdfs.
[04:25] <giiker2> paulus68: thanks!
[04:25] <alkafoo> giiker2: I got that: you should get your money up front
[04:25] <tnud> codehotter: One more thing while I got you here, this script wants to copy files to /var/www and access some files from there too, which it can't under dell. How do I sudo the script under cron // make /var/www avalible to all users :O
[04:25] <HyeDude> hey guys, I got camera how can i get my PC recognize it? Im using last version of Ubuntu
[04:25] <tomvolek> alkfoo, have you heared of CastIron integration tool ?  Its an IBM tool ... for integrating , traditional Data sources like DB with things liek Salesforce and netsuit backends
[04:25] <codehotter> giiker2: get the money up front, or get in writing that they're buying your service and send a debt collecting agency if they don't pay. Don't try to solve a human interaction problem with technology.
[04:25] <alkafoo> HyeDude: what sort of camera?
[04:25] <giiker2> alkafoo: I know, problem is nobody right now wants to increase the rates! :(
[04:26] <alkafoo> tomvolek: nope, weird for an IBM tool to be win32 only, though
[04:26] <alkafoo> not so weird for an IBM product to suck, however =)
[04:26] <tomvolek> sigh :(
[04:26] <alkafoo> giiker2: well password protecting PDF files isn't going to be any more affective than witholding
[04:26] <giiker2> codehotter: thanks, best answer so far!! made my eyes popped out!
[04:27] <codehotter> tnud: I'm curious what environment variables were really needed?
[04:28] <paulus68> giiker2: http://www.gnurou.org/blog/2008/09/09/finally_real_pdf_annotating_under_linux
[04:28] <HyeDude> alkafoo, it's a web cam
[04:28] <giiker2> alkafoo: & codehotter : thing is times are so tight right now that it's the only way for me right now, but I will consider getting it up front by convincing my client, thanks! and thanks for hanging out in Ubuntu forums!!
[04:29] <giiker2> paulus68: thanx!
[04:29] <Lasers> giiker2: How about using your money to buy Windows and more money for Adobe Reader Professional? Full control on your PDF. 'Spend your money to make money'
[04:30] <tnud> codehotter: I'm working on it :P Meanwhile.. howto make dell have access to /var/www // run cron job as sudo :O
[04:30] <paulus68> giiker2: the thing is if you are going to transform the docs to pdf and you want to be sure that your client isn't going to modify  it, I can understand however when they paid you, you need to do the same work again to remove any protection you put on
[04:30] <codehotter> tnud: The question is, why does dell need access to /var/www ?
[04:30] <paulus68> giiker2: so it's double time for nothing :(
[04:30] <giiker2> Lasers: I believe in helping each other in my community, so no thanks! plus Adobe is so heavy it makes me vomit!
[04:31] <alkafoo> HyeDude: and what're you trying to do with your webcam?
[04:31] <tnud> codehotter: The jar is generating a map which I need avalible from the web
[04:31] <Lasers> giiker2: That's great news! You can help the clients in your community. :)
[04:31] <codehotter> tnud: OK. What else does your script need to modify?
[04:31] <HyeDude> alkafoo, trying to get my friend to see me through the skype
[04:31] <giiker2> paulus68: I know what you r saying, I was just going to edit the original but keep a copy of the original untill they pay me!
[04:32] <alkafoo> HyeDude: okay so you have Skype running?
[04:32] <Corey> giiker2: What "processing" do you need to do?  ghostscript and other tools "just work"
[04:32] <giiker2> Lasers: you ...
[04:32] <giiker2> Lasers: :)
[04:32] <tnud> codehotter: Just that, it saves image files to a folder under /var/www and has a cache there too (so it doesn't waste time on stuff that hasn't changed since last time
[04:32] <HyeDude> alkafoo, Yes, but the thing is the light on the camera isn't on, I think the computer does't recognize the driver
[04:33] <codehotter> tnud: OK. Are you using the user 'dell' just for running the script or for other things too?
[04:33] <alkafoo> HyeDude: is it a laptop?
[04:33] <tnud> codehotter: It's the only user I have except the root acc
[04:33] <tnud> codehotter: Which I intend to disable again after this is figured out :P
[04:33] <HyeDude> alkafoo, no it's desktop
[04:34] <paulus68> giiker2: what you could do aswell is that you post a link of these pdf's to a location on your server and when people want to download it for usage they need to pay this way you don't waste your time with editing
[04:34] <giiker2> Corey: yeah I know, thing is I use a scanner to convert these time sheets to pdf's so I can send them by email, but I need to charge for the time spent processing dozens of time sheets per week!
[04:35] <codehotter> tnud: OK. Create a new user with 'useradd <name>' then give the new user write access to the subdirectory in /var/www (and set up the script for the new user)
[04:35] <Corey> giiker2: Or get a scanner with a hopper, press the button, get a single PDF, use gs to slice it into individual pages.
[04:35] <Corey> Total time to you, five minutes.
[04:35] <giiker2> paulus68: I think that's a great idea! I will consider it .
[04:35] <tnud> codehotter: How do I give a user read/write access to a folder (and subfolders) ? :/
[04:36] <alkafoo> HyeDude: you might try a USB port on the other side; otherwise say what make/model it is
[04:36] <codehotter> tnud: the easiest way is to just chown it to them.
[04:36] <paulus68> giiker2: your welcome
[04:36] <codehotter> tnud: chown <user> <folder>
[04:36] <tnud> codehotter I'm down to 5 lines of env btw
[04:36] <codehotter> tnud: good news
[04:37] <giiker2> Corey: I use pdftk, thanks...
[04:38] <paulus68> giiker2: or at least you can create a login script before they can download the pdf and you need to setup a counter for how many times a specific pdf is downloaded and charge them x times for downloading
[04:38] <tnud> codehotter: DISPLAY=:0
[04:38] <giiker2> well good night everyone, as usual you guys helpd me a lot!
[04:38] <giiker2> paulus68: thanx again, you really keep pouring ideas eh!! :)
[04:39] <paulus68> giiker2: sorry will stop doing it
[04:39] <codehotter> tnud: whoa, I definitely didn't expect that. The java thing shows a GUI?
[04:39] <tnud> codehotter: It shouldn't
[04:39] <giiker2> paulus68: please DON'T, people need you here! ;)
[04:39] <tnud> codehotter: I've set it to no gui mode, hmm
[04:39] <NonConformist> so ya i need an alternative way to install ubuntu... i can't use a cd or usb
[04:39] <paulus68> giiker2: no worries
[04:39] <NonConformist> thanks   in advance :D
[04:39] <tnud> codehotter: oh well, it works! Thanks for all the help!
[04:40] <codehotter> tnud: maybe the code is poorly written, and checks to see if there's an X environment before checking to see if it is run in GUI mode or not
[04:40] <codehotter> tnud: no problem. You got your /var/www thing sorted too?
[04:40] <NonConformist> actually brb gotta restart lol
[04:41] <segol> Can only get 960x529 @ 0Hz apparently on an IBM G78 6627-4AN being pushed by an Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 03), I know this screen and GPU can do 1600x1200@60Hz as well as 1024x768@85Hz
[04:41] <paulus68> !ask |segol
[04:43] <tnud> codehotter: I just discovered -R with --help :P
[04:43] <segol> !fail |aulus68
[04:43] <tnud> codehotter: Yes it's working! :D
[04:44] <codehotter> awesome
[04:44] <tnud> Much appriciated
[04:45] <tnud> cam, problem deciding o.O
[04:48] <ubuntu_> yo guys, so i have this 6 GB harddrive formatted and ready 2 install ubuntu onto
[04:48] <ubuntu_> basically my files are bigger than any storage device I have, so I can't backup my photos and docs etc.
[04:49] <ubuntu_> if I install ubunto from liveCD onto the formatted 6GB partition is there a minimal chance I can have a huge error occur
[04:49] <ubuntu_> minimal as opposed to really big
[04:49] <ubuntu_> chance
[04:49] <codehotter> tnud: final thing, you may have figured ito ut already. It's no sense to keep the export DISPLAY=0 in a separate file when it's only one line, best to put it in your main script with a comment why it's necessary and just remove the ". /path/to/newEnv.txt"
[04:50] <ubuntu_> I mean I have, wait hold on i meant I have like a huge 140 GB hard disk, and then a 6GB little disk as well and I completely formatted it and i wanna put Ubuntu onto it do you think that's safe
[04:50] <codehotter> ubuntu_: you can get online backups for 0.15 cent per gigabyte and probably cheaper.
[04:50] <alkafoo> ubuntu_: it's about as safe as using the disk for any reason is
[04:50] <ubuntu_> codehotter: if I just do this quickly tho do u think its a really small chance anything can go wrong
[04:50] <codehotter> ubuntu_: you won't have much space for your ubuntu install if it's only 6 GB, do you intend to put files on your NTFS filesystem while working in Linux?
[04:51] <ubuntu_> codehotter: I want to after installing ubuntu, take away unused space from the partition hosting windows and then add it to the ubuntu one
[04:51] <ubuntu_> there's like 79GB unused space on the one hosting windows
[04:51] <alkafoo> ubuntu_: a very small chance
[04:51] <ubuntu_> i was thinking take away like 60 GB from it
[04:51] <alkafoo> ubuntu_: unrelated to the install process
[04:51] <alkafoo> any time you use a piece of hardware, there's a chance that will be the time it breaks =)
[04:52] <ubuntu_> alkafoo: Oh I see well ive had this comp since 2008 so I think it will be OK it's never crashed before
[04:52] <alkafoo> there's no particular chance it will decide to format a partition you haven't told it to, however
[04:52] <codehotter> ubuntu_: if you can manage to direct the installer to install on the 6 GB hard drive and not use the other hard drive, then it's quite safe
[04:52] <codehotter> but humans make mistakes, and I'd rather not do partitioning magic on a filesystem with important data that I have no backups of
[04:52] <codehotter> humans include the programmers of partition magic, not just you ; )
[04:53] <alkafoo> sounded like he'd already made the partition
[04:53] <ubuntu_> codehotter: how do I do that though? Im on the install menu and i selected "somthing else" ,
[04:53] <ubuntu_> yea i already made the partition though
[04:53] <ubuntu_> lols ;P
[04:53] <ubuntu_>  but after I select somthing else
[04:53] <ubuntu_> it lists me
[04:53] <alkafoo> just tell it to install to the 6GB partition, and that's the only partition it will use
[04:53] <codehotter> alkafoo: but how do you do that though? Screenshots please
[04:53] <ubuntu_> it listst me
[04:53] <ubuntu_> dev sda
[04:54] <ubuntu_> dev sda1 sda 2 sda 3 sda 4, all marked NTFS
[04:54] <alkafoo> codehotter: do what?
[04:54] <ubuntu_> and like
[04:54] <codehotter> alkafoo: tell it to install to the 6 GB partition?
[04:54] <alkafoo> ubuntu_: what'd you make the 6GB partition with?
[04:54] <ubuntu_> "Device for boot loader  installation"  and I can select the one I formatted
[04:54] <codehotter> and where did the 6 GB partition come from yea
[04:54] <alkafoo> you just click on it if memory serves
[04:54] <ubuntu_> is that what i want to do to install it to that 6gb partition
[04:54] <ubuntu_> the 6gb partition was part of the computer since I got it for no reason that I know of lol
[04:54] <ubuntu_> but I just formatted it to be safe with g-parted
[04:54] <tnud> Wait what "Hour (2-24)" crontab can't run something 1-2, 6-24? :/ (every hour except 3am to 6am)
[04:54] <alkafoo> ubuntu_: for GRUB?  Probably sda (no number)
[04:55] <codehotter> There may have been important data on the parition
[04:55] <ubuntu_> codehotter: there wasnt at all
[04:55] <codehotter> or it may have been the recovery and diagnostics tools
[04:55] <ubuntu_> codehotter: I checked alot and with windows
[04:55] <alkafoo> ubuntu_: but yes you can also tell it to use the 6GB partition (with number), and then configure Windows' boot loader to be able to use it
[04:55] <codehotter> ok ok
[04:55] <codehotter> good
[04:56] <ubuntu_> alkafoo: but how do you select it.. its just letting me select "device for boot loader installation" but it already has the GRUB bootloader since I added it with the LiveCD while still in windows because rebooting didn't boot me into  UBUNTU
[04:56] <ubuntu_> ugh long sentence but get it ?
[04:56] <codehotter> can you pastebin the output of sudo parted -l ?
[04:56] <ubuntu_> OK i will
[04:57] <tnud> 0,15,30,45 1-2,6-24 * * * Stuff      <- Will that work as a cronjob ? :/ The help file says that the hour field is between 2-24 (wat)
[04:57] <tnud> Run job every 15 minutes all hours except between 3 and 6 am
[04:57] <ubuntu_> http://pastebin.com/SDCS8Rm9
[04:57] <ubuntu_> codehotter: http://pastebin.com/SDCS8Rm9
[04:57] <GhostWolf> hi all, have 2 questions, one whats the command in terminal to open up the audio configuration thing? and second, how do i do upates via temrinal?
[04:58] <tnud> apt-get update
[04:58] <tnud> and apt-get upgrade
[04:58] <GhostWolf> tnud, ah i thought it was install update lol
[04:58] <tnud> close :P
[04:58] <GhostWolf> i don't need upgrade just the updates, but what about the audio thing tnud do you know that command? i thought it was ls something
[04:58] <tnud> they do different things
[04:59] <tnud> update just updates your lists of programs, upgrade "updates" your programs :P
[04:59] <GhostWolf> tnud well i have updates that pops up so i figured its what i need
[04:59] <NonConformist> ok back does anybody know of any alternatives to installing ubuntu? I'm not able to use usb or cd o.O
[04:59] <ubuntu_> codehotter: what do you think about that
[04:59] <codehotter> ubuntu_: sudo mkdir /mnt/3; sudo mkdir /mnt/4; sudo mount /dev/sda3 sudo /mnt/3; sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/4; sudo ls /mnt/3; sudo ls /mnt/4 - can you pastebin the output of that?
[05:00] <tnud> I have no idea what the command for the audio settings diag is unfortunally
[05:00] <codehotter> ubuntu_: whoops, there is one sudo too many in there
[05:00] <ubuntu_> codehotter:     :OOOO you want me to write all that in a row in the same commandline as you wrote it there then press enter?
[05:00] <GhostWolf> tnud ok thanks for the update info tho
[05:00] <ubuntu_> codehotter: oh do I get rid of the sudo before mnt 3
[05:00] <codehotter> ubuntu_: yes, sudo mkdir /mnt/3; sudo mkdir /mnt/4; sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/3; sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/4; sudo ls /mnt/3; sudo ls /mnt/4
[05:01] <ubuntu_> OK whats the ubuntu chat pastebin link so i dont have to make it public for everyone to see lol
[05:01] <GhostWolf> does anyone here know the command for the audio mixer or something along those lines in temrminal?
[05:02] <grendal-prime> hey guys is anyone here in SF and able to drop off an ubuntu disk at my brothers house?
[05:03] <grendal-prime> I know that sounds werid but im sort of stuck and have to ask this...ver werid question..althoug i dont think its all that werid of a question for San Francisco actually
[05:03] <wooter> lol grendal-prime
[05:03] <ubuntu_> codehotter: sudo mkdir /mnt/3; sudo mkdir /mnt/4; sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/3; sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/4; sudo ls /mnt/3; sudo ls /mnt/4
[05:03] <ubuntu_> BIN   BOOTMGR	IMAGES_BOOT   PLANFOLDER  System Volume Information  ZZIMAGES
[05:03] <ubuntu_> BOOT  DATA.INI	PLANDATA.INI  SOURCES	  !V5_01_07.VRP
[05:04] <tnud> grendal-prime: if he can wait you can actually order cd's from the official shop http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=852
[05:04] <grendal-prime> wooter, ya i know funny..but damn dude i cant think of a faster way of getting someone an actual install disk..not to mention the "secret society" impact of some dude just showing up and saying..."hey this is from your brother"
[05:05] <tnud> Oh
[05:05] <tnud> Id love taht
[05:05] <tnud> I'd love that*
[05:05] <tnud> If I wasn't in europe I'd do it :P
[05:05] <GhostWolf> tnud, i found it, its alsamixer for the sound deal haha
[05:05] <grendal-prime> ya and man..like just..we could have soooo much fun with it...
[05:05] <wooter> any self respecting computer shop should have one laying around grendal-prime
[05:05] <tnud> GhostWolf: Good to know :D
[05:05] <rohan> how do i set so that kernel modules from /lib/modules/`uname -r`/extra are preferred over the other ones?
[05:05] <rww> grendal-prime: ask #ubuntu-us-ca
[05:06] <GhostWolf> tnud yep so next time soemone asks you can help lol anyways thanks for the update command
[05:06] <grendal-prime> wooter, ya thats what i thought...i wound up almost yellling at these people...
[05:06] <tnud> GhostWolf: don't forget to upgrade too... that's the important bit :p
[05:06] <wooter> i never leave the house without one grendal-prime
[05:06] <grendal-prime> it was like they had not heard of it...
[05:06] <GhostWolf> tnud nothing needs upgrading just updating lol but i'll check that
[05:06] <grendal-prime> ya wooter me nitther. and im a pilot..
[05:06] <wooter> lol
[05:07] <GhostWolf> anyways thanks tnud im out
[05:07] <wooter> never leave the ground without one
[05:07] <tnud> GhostWolf: The thing is, apt-get update just fixes your lists It doesn't actually update any programs
[05:07] <grendal-prime> i just cant physically get one to him...
[05:07] <tnud> haha
[05:07] <rww> grendal-prime: (and that wasn't a "pass you off to another person" answer, #ubuntu-us-ca actually has people in it)
[05:07] <grendal-prime> and the copy he downloaded i think is corrupt.
[05:08] <ubuntu_> codehotter: hey did that make sense to you
[05:08] <grendal-prime> and he has a fat windows virus
[05:08] <grendal-prime> hes a bouncer...at a nice clube
[05:08] <grendal-prime> club
[05:09] <jroysdon> I'm in #ubuntu-us-ca, but California is a big state.  What do you need to get sent and to where?
[05:09] <grendal-prime> if you did this..he would probabaly get you into nice places..
[05:09] <ubuntu_> grendal-prime : lol which club bro ill hit it up with the disk and give to him while hes working
[05:09] <gbear14275> Hello, I just clean installed 11.04 and discovered that when I insert a USB stick it isn't mounting.  Did I miss a setting?  I thought there was default automounting
[05:09] <ubuntu_> that way he'll have to let me in the club
[05:09] <rww> grendal-prime: seriously, /join #ubuntu-us-ca, say you're the person I sent there, someone in SF will poke you in the right direction
[05:09] <Lasers> ubuntu_: Give him a blank disc. :)
[05:10] <tnud> You evil evil man
[05:10] <ubuntu_> HAHA i will lasers nice
[05:10] <grendal-prime> right on ...rww.....   god i love this distro...so...quasi underground
[05:10] <ubuntu_> lol it is underground cus theres no big CEO running it and making cash off it
[05:10] <grendal-prime> we got our own resistance movement.
[05:10] <EvilGenius101> I cannot seem to install ubuntu on my laptop. Its overheating it and casusing a thermal shutdown
[05:10] <alkafoo> did Ubuntu stop doing the free snail mail CDs?
[05:11] <ubuntu_> codehotter: you there man D:
[05:11] <rww> alkafoo: Canonical did, yes
[05:11] <EvilGenius101> its a new i3 laptop, windows works fine. even heavy operations. tried USB/CD install but it gets stuck at a  Preloader screen when i press install
[05:11] <jroysdon> EvilGenius101, clean out all the dust and stuff and be sure to keep the fan spots open while you install
[05:11] <alkafoo> awe
[05:11] <EvilGenius101> jroysdon, Wish it was that simple.
[05:11] <tnud> 11.04 is just to HAWT
[05:11] <gbear14275> Anything I'm doing wrong to dork up my usb automounting?
[05:11] <codehotter> ubuntu_: take this http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=zHZNsirD and put it in a file
[05:12] <Lasers> EvilGenius101: Try LTS 10.04 -- Far more stable than Ubuntu 11.04.
[05:12] <jroysdon> EvilGenius101, :/  even running at 100% CPU all the time it should never overheat.  Take it back
[05:12] <codehotter> ubuntu_: then enter cat /tmp/thatfile | gpg -a --import
[05:12] <ex0> agreed
[05:12] <tnud> gbear14275: Tried this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=857374
[05:12] <ex0> i recommend 10.04 to all
[05:12] <jroysdon> (unless there is a fan or dust problem, otherwise you have some bad hardware (memory, cache, cpu, etc.)
[05:12] <EvilGenius101> jroy, I can run windows 7 fine, Visual Studio 2010 fine, Game fine. But one damn linux won't install
[05:12] <ubuntu_> codehotter: woah intense, OK so even though if I save it in a text file thats on this temporary liveCD ubuntu it'll still be able to read it
[05:13] <ubuntu_> codehotter: and also you want me to copy paste everything into the text file EXCEPT for the PGP Public key block parts correct?
[05:13] <codehotter> including those
[05:13] <EvilGenius101> I don't have 10.04 iso. Guess will have to get it.
[05:13] <ubuntu_> oh OK hold on im trying it out
[05:13] <codehotter> That's my key
[05:13] <EvilGenius101> Is there any way to install it in from windows? I've got a spare drive
[05:13] <ex0>  yes highly recommended evilgenius
[05:13] <EvilGenius101> but the window install doesn't give me an option. it just says Demo & Install
[05:13] <ex0> nah boot up cd, or ubs best idea
[05:13] <tnud> gbear14275: that's quite old tho :/ Hmm
[05:14] <alkafoo> EvilGenius101: a spare drive?
[05:14] <EvilGenius101> alkafoo, I mean partition.
[05:14] <codehotter> ubuntu_: did it say it added my key to your chain?
[05:14] <gbear14275> tnud, would that apply to unity?
[05:14] <alkafoo> oh partition
[05:14] <ubuntu_> codehotter: HOLD ON man it says.... /tmp/thatfile? I saved it to my desktop
[05:14] <EvilGenius101> I saw that window installer can install it, but i just don't get an option.
[05:14] <ubuntu_> codehotter: so should I put /desktop/untitled1
[05:14] <alkafoo> EvilGenius101: right, it installs to a file on the Windows partition
[05:15] <alkafoo> EvilGenius101: you can migrate that to its own real partition later, but it's kind of the long way around
[05:15] <codehotter> ubuntu_: so move it from your desktop to /tmp/thatfile or change /tmp/thatfile into ~/Desktop/untitled1
[05:15] <alkafoo> EvilGenius101: you don't have a CD/DVD/USB stick?
[05:15] <EvilGenius101> I do. I've got it on USB & CD
[05:15] <ubuntu_> OK cool hold on im trying it
[05:15] <tnud> gbear14275: I have no idea haha, I just felt sorry for you since noone answered and google'd it
[05:15] <NonConformist> -.-
[05:15] <tnud> gbear14275: Sounds very strange imho :P
[05:15] <alkafoo> EvilGenius101: all set then
[05:15] <gbear14275> tnud, I appreciate that... weird thing is that it is a clean install... figured there shouldn't be any issues
[05:16] <tnud> Indeed..
[05:16] <EvilGenius101> alkafoo, CD or USB it gets stuck on Preloader screen with ubuntu logo. on reboot the bios moans OVERHEATED
[05:17] <ubuntu_> codehotter:
[05:17] <ubuntu_> codehotter: something weird happened !
[05:18] <alkafoo> EvilGenius101: sweet
[05:18] <gbear14275> is the fact that it is a bootable device affect anything?
[05:18] <alkafoo> EvilGenius101: but your Windows install works fine?
[05:18] <ubuntu_> codehotter: you there man? something weird happened
[05:18] <codehotter> ubuntu_: what happened man
[05:18] <EvilGenius101> yep. not a issue. even with heavy load
[05:18] <ubuntu_> codehotter: well first it says that desktop/untitled1 doesn't exist and it DOES though...
[05:18] <ubuntu_> codehotter: then it says it did a whole bunch of stuff and i dont even know what it did, lol, but the main point is it didnt even find the file on the desktop
[05:19] <harry_> good morning all ;
[05:19] <harry_> :)
[05:19] <alkafoo> EvilGenius101: did you try a different version?
[05:19] <ubuntu_> goodmorning
[05:19] <alkafoo> harry_: hi
[05:19] <EvilGenius101> alkafoo, don't have another iso right now. Will download something later then
[05:19] <codehotter> ubuntu_: well, move it to /tmp/thatfile then
[05:19] <harry_> alkafoo:hello
[05:20] <ubuntu_> codehotter: hold on can u just clarify what it actually did , lol
[05:20] <ubuntu_> codehotter: http://paste.ubuntu.com/697058/
[05:21] <alkafoo> EvilGenius101: could be some weird option you could toggle in your BIOS, too
[05:21] <codehotter> ubuntu_: It does that the first time you use gpg
[05:22] <ubuntu_> codehotter: LOL oh wow I should have never stopped using linux wat was i thinking going back to windows silly fool of me OK ill find /tmp/ create thatfile.gpg
[05:22] <EvilGenius101> alkafoo, I doubt it. Its very basic BIOS for the laptop. Nothing I think stands out. it won't even run as live cd
[05:23] <alkafoo> EvilGenius101: has a live cd ever worked with it?
[05:23] <EvilGenius101> First time i'm trying linux on this laptop
[05:23] <EvilGenius101> that same iso worked fine in vmware
[05:25] <alkafoo> it's just it could be a problem using any live media or just with that particular image
[05:25]  * alkafoo shrugs
[05:25] <ubuntu_> codehotter: OK i did it and it worked,
[05:25] <codehotter> ubuntu_: it added my key?
[05:25] <ubuntu_> codehotter: but what exactly did I do ? it added your key and says your name and email but
[05:25] <codehotter> OK, now take the output from the commands before that you didn't want to send to everyone
[05:25] <codehotter> and put it in a file
[05:26] <alkafoo> EvilGenius101: technically you can copy your vmware install to empty partition space, but you'd have to possibly tweak the drivers instead of them being autoconfigured
[05:26] <codehotter> then do gpg -e "<my name or email>" /path/to/file
[05:26] <codehotter> oops
[05:26] <codehotter> then do gpg -a -e "<my name or email>" /path/to/file
[05:26] <ubuntu_> what exactly does that do though i forgot
[05:26] <codehotter> It makes sure only the person that you have as "name or email" can read it
[05:27] <EvilGenius101> I'll grab  10.04 iso from my uni and dist-upgrade ... if it works
[05:27] <EvilGenius101> or i'll just install opensuse or fedore
[05:27] <codehotter> whoa people actually use opensuse? *ducks*
[05:27] <ubuntu_> codehotter: OK 2 things, i forgot what outputs you wanted, and 2nd of all so it'll make sure only you can read what ?
[05:28] <jroysdon> Fedora too.  Just be prepared to reinstall Fedora every 13 months (give or take a month).  I enjoy Fedora, but I'm looking at Ubuntu for LTS.
[05:28] <codehotter> ubuntu_: ls /mnt/3; ls /mnt/4
[05:28] <codehotter> put the output from that into a file
[05:28] <ubuntu_> OH right those outputs ill put them , into a NEW file??
[05:28] <codehotter> yes
[05:28] <codehotter> then gpg -a -e "<my name or email>" /path/to/file
[05:28] <alkafoo> not a fan of Fedora, but there's rarely a good reason to reinstall a Unix system
[05:29] <ubuntu_> OK cool im just wondering tho does that mean u can directly access my comp and read it etc. ?
[05:29] <paulus68> codehotter: do you have an manual/howto on how to set up gpg?
[05:29] <ubuntu_> or what does this do
[05:29] <ubuntu_> to help my installation , i forgot
[05:29] <alkafoo> basically it comes down to which would take longer: reinstalling or fixing it, because fixing it is always an option
[05:29] <codehotter> ubuntu_: it will print out another bit of garbled text that you can put on pastebin
[05:29] <codehotter> then I will take it from pastebin and decrypt it
[05:29] <ubuntu_> oh lol ok
[05:30] <ubuntu_> thx are you swedish I can't tell where your name is from
[05:30] <codehotter> paulus68: what do you mean? What do you want to set up?
[05:30] <ubuntu_> or maybe dutch
[05:31] <codehotter> paulus68: gpg --gen-key then gpg -a --export "<your name or email>" send your key to somebody else, have that person gpg --import it. Then you can use gpg --sign or gpg --encrypt
[05:31] <codehotter> paulus68: I didn't know how gpg worked either, I just did man gpg
[05:31] <paulus68> codehotter: I mean you are using a encryption decryption with gpg which interests me so I am asking if you have a howto or other manual that I can use as reference
[05:32] <codehotter> ubuntu_: did it produce some garbled text? Encrypted with my key?
[05:33] <jroysdon> paulus68, what do you want to use it for, email or files?  If email, there are a lot of good plugins that automate much gpg stuff
[05:33] <paulus68> jroysdon: both might come in handy :)
[05:33] <jroysdon> Enigmail for Thunderbird is a nice add-on
[05:33] <ubuntu_> codehotter: oh it said
[05:34] <ubuntu_> usage gpg [options] --encrypt [filename[
[05:34] <ubuntu_> what the...
[05:34] <jroysdon> you got a parameter wrong
[05:34] <ubuntu_> like I saved the output as thatfile2 in temp
[05:34] <jroysdon> you can use: gpg -es FILENAME
[05:34] <ubuntu_> then i put in gpg -a -e "<the email>" /tmp/thatfile2
[05:34] <jroysdon> (-es tells it to sign and encrypt it)
[05:35] <alkafoo> ah gpg
[05:35] <ubuntu_> the output BTW was BIN   BOOTMGR	IMAGES_BOOT   PLANFOLDER  System Volume Information  ZZIMAGES
[05:35] <ubuntu_> BOOT  DATA.INI	PLANDATA.INI  SOURCES	  !V5_01_07.VRP
[05:35] <jroysdon> err, I mean gpg -se FILENAME
[05:35] <jroysdon> it should take your original FILENAME and generate a FILENAME.gpg file for you (encrypted for the people you tell it to and signed by your key)
[05:35] <alkafoo> they should've called it prettycrypticprivacy
[05:36] <ubuntu_> hey codehotter im totally lost here D::
[05:38] <ubuntu_> i dont even know what were attempting to do nevermind why this isnt working now, lol...
[05:38] <jroysdon> ubuntu_, look at gpgkeys
[05:38] <codehotter> ubuntu_: sorry I wrote it wrong
[05:38] <ubuntu_> codehotter: Oh okay what was it ,lol
[05:38] <codehotter> ubuntu_: gpg -a -er "<my email>" /tmp/thatfile2
[05:39] <ubuntu_> OK i'll try it
[05:39] <ubuntu_> hold on
[05:39] <ubuntu_> security alert it says
[05:39] <codehotter> hmm
[05:39] <ubuntu_> it is not certain that the key belongs to  the person named in the user ID
[05:39] <codehotter> true
[05:40] <ubuntu_> if you *really* know what you're doing you may answer with yes
[05:40] <ubuntu_> is it OK to say yes? lol
[05:40] <codehotter> If you got this key from somewhere you don't trust, you shouldn't just believe that it is who the name says it is
[05:40] <codehotter> you can put any name you want
[05:40] <ubuntu_> codehotter: wait what do you mean?! I got it from you
[05:40] <codehotter> but since you got that key from me directly, you know it's me, so you can trust the key
[05:40] <ubuntu_> codehotter: lol oh ok
[05:40] <jroysdon> unless Malory MitM'd you
[05:40] <ubuntu_> are you like someone famous on the whole ubuntu crowd of peeps
[05:40] <Lasers> 'directly' or just the man behind the machine? :o
[05:40] <ubuntu_> lol ^^
[05:41] <jroysdon> You should compare signatures
[05:41] <codehotter> jroysdon: but those can be MiTMd too
[05:41] <jroysdon> Uhm, how so?
[05:41] <ubuntu_> wow im so over my head, so is like
[05:41] <ubuntu_> codehotter a super trustworthy dude
[05:41] <ubuntu_> and u guys all know him
[05:41] <codehotter> lol
[05:41] <Lasers> We don't.
[05:41] <ubuntu_> sry for being rude im just super paranoid about this kind of stuff
[05:41] <jroysdon> If you call each other up on the phone and read the signature back and forth (the gpg key sig), how is that going to get MiTM?
[05:42] <codehotter> he doesn't know my voice, so that could get MitMd too
[05:42] <ubuntu_> lol
[05:42] <jroysdon> Hah, for sure
[05:42] <ubuntu_> yea if I call you you could be the guy who does kermit the frogs voice for all i know
[05:42] <codehotter> right
[05:42] <ubuntu_> but guys
[05:42] <ubuntu_> so you dont even know who codehotter is he isnt like famous an stuff??
[05:42] <jroysdon> I think he writes malware
[05:42] <jroysdon> ;-p
[05:43] <codehotter> ubuntu_: the message is just saying, don't automatically assume the person whose name it says on the key is actually that person
[05:43] <jroysdon> j/k, new to #ubuntu myself
[05:43] <jroysdon> ubuntu_, just say "yes" but don't trust the key
[05:43] <codehotter> ubuntu_: which is good advice, you don't know if I'm really that person or if that's really my email
[05:43] <codehotter> ubuntu_: but you know it's at least me, since you got that key from me
[05:43] <rhin0> i just abandoned inspiron m5010 - too many problems - downgrading to inspiron 1525
[05:43] <codehotter> so just let it use that key :P
[05:43] <ubuntu_> OK ill press yes lol
[05:44] <amh345> is it common for history to not show commonds in the same order when you have multiple ssh terminals active?
[05:44] <ubuntu_> OMG MY LINUX EXPLODED what are these spots on teh screen?? why is my comp slowin down hey its got a million popups NOOOO
[05:44] <alkafoo> amh345: multiple ssh terminals, what?
[05:44] <jroysdon> amh345, yes, as it is stored in .bash_history
[05:44] <codehotter> ubuntu_: good, now take the output from that command and put it on pastebin
[05:44] <ubuntu_> jk
[05:44] <codehotter> amh345: I don't think history is written to file until you close the shell, it's stored in memory until then, isn't it?
[05:44] <ubuntu_> OK it doesnt have any output, i pressed yes, and now it just goes back to blank
[05:44] <kooldaddyj> hello all!
[05:44] <amh345> jroysdon: as i understnad it, these are not time/time stamped so they could show up in any order?
[05:44] <ubuntu_> codehotter: there's no output!! is that bad??
[05:45] <codehotter> ubuntu_: ah, okay, so it made a file /tmp/thatfile2.asc probably, open that and put it on pastebin
[05:45] <ubuntu_> It is NOT certain that the key belongs to the person named
[05:45] <ubuntu_> in the user ID.  If you *really* know what you are doing,
[05:45] <ubuntu_> you may answer the next question with yes.
[05:45] <ubuntu_> Use this key anyway? (y/N) y
[05:45] <FloodBot1> ubuntu_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:45] <ubuntu_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[05:45] <jroysdon> amh345, I would think each bash shell will have it's own history, but only the last one will be written to .bash_history (but I've not tested)
[05:45] <jroysdon> amh345, I recommend using screen anyway, so you only need one ssh
[05:45] <ubuntu_> codehotter: Hey it wont let me open that .asc file
[05:45] <amh345> gotcha
[05:45] <amh345> screen?
[05:45] <codehotter> ubuntu_: cat /tmp/thatfile2.asc
[05:46] <ubuntu_> codehotter: It won't let me open that, it says There is no application installed for PGP/MIME-encrypted message header files
[05:46] <amh345> im accessing an ubuntu server via osx terminal
[05:46] <Lasers> !screen | amh345
[05:46] <ubuntu_> oh Ok
[05:46] <jroysdon> amh345, screen is a text multi-shell interface
[05:46] <ubuntu_> codehotter: I did the thing you said now it has the garbled code
[05:46] <codehotter> ubuntu_: put it on pastebin
[05:46] <amh345> oh. neato.  thanks guys
[05:46] <jroysdon> best of all, you can disconnect from ssh and screen is still there running
[05:46] <codehotter> I have been told tmux has much cleaner code than screen
[05:46] <ubuntu_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/697063/
[05:46] <jroysdon> You can reconnect to it later (I always start with: screen -xRR)
[05:47] <ubuntu_> codehotter: http://paste.ubuntu.com/697063/
[05:47] <Lasers> amh345: screen is pretty common for unix. OSX should have it too
[05:47] <jroysdon> screen is pretty universal
[05:47] <ubuntu_> hey guys codehotter just gave me advice and I used his code for some reason I dont even understadn what im doing do you think my linux just got hacked? Im not being rude im just super paranoid about this pls dont say jokes i mean seriously does anyone here know him
[05:47] <Lasers> ubuntu_: I don't know him -- Just the same way you don't know me.
[05:47] <ubuntu_> codehotter you're not evil right so its all good lol ?! sorry im just super paranoid about this stuff
[05:48] <jroysdon> ubuntu_, I dunno, what are you getting from him?
[05:48] <codehotter> jroysdon: he imported my gpg key
[05:48] <jroysdon> kaBOOM!
[05:49] <ubuntu_> jryosdon: I dont even know its just code he gave me and I ran it and I forget why im even doing it cus im that much of a dirty little noob
[05:49] <ubuntu_> so codehotter did you see the pastebin I gave you?
[05:49] <codehotter> yes
[05:49] <codehotter> but I forgot the passphrase to my key
[05:49] <ubuntu_> does it make sense? lol sorry i didnt mean to insult u codehotter im just paranoid about this crap
[05:49] <codehotter> so I can't open it
[05:49] <codehotter> ^^
[05:49] <ubuntu_> oh man so what does that mean... uggh
[05:49] <codehotter> There are worse noobs than you lol
[05:49] <ubuntu_> oh OK good lol
[05:49] <jroysdon> lol
[05:50] <paulus68> ubuntu_ you have to trust the people up to a certain level when you ask for help
[05:50] <ubuntu_> codehotter is that bad though? what were we really close to doing?
[05:50] <ubuntu_> paulus68 yeah I know im just unreasonably paranoid about computer stuff sometimes sorry my bad all around
[05:50] <codehotter> ubuntu_: gpg is used to send private messages
[05:50] <ubuntu_> anyways codehotter what were we really close to doing? were we really really close? can we still finish it ?
[05:50] <codehotter> ubuntu_: I sent you a key
[05:50] <ubuntu_> codehotter: So that means ??
[05:50] <codehotter> ubuntu_: you imported my key
[05:50] <codehotter> ubuntu_: after that, you can send me private messages using my key
[05:50] <ubuntu_> yea, but... all that = what happens
[05:51] <ubuntu_> oh its like
[05:51] <ubuntu_> an IM thing?
[05:51] <jroysdon> which is kinda worthless as codehotter can't remember his password to his private key ;-p
[05:51] <paulus68> ubuntu_: no worries you should see my network layout that's really paranoid :p
[05:51] <codehotter> ubuntu_: well not really, all gpg does is take your input and produce garbled text, or take garbled text and get the input back
[05:51] <jroysdon> ubuntu_, it's a way to encode it so no one else can intercept it
[05:51] <jroysdon> (well, they can intercept it, but they won't have a way to know what it means)
[05:52] <codehotter> ubuntu_: the idea is that nobody in between can read it, only the person whose key you used
[05:52] <codehotter> ubuntu_: for everybody else it's just garbled text
[05:52] <ubuntu_> ohh lol. so we were just trying to set up a fully encrypted IM system
[05:52] <jroysdon> unless Mallory MiTM your key exchange
[05:52] <ubuntu_> and then u forgot your password so we cant do it in the longrun anyways
[05:52] <codehotter> ubuntu_: yes, because you were unhappy about doing it in public
[05:53] <ubuntu_> OH no im fine in public!!! that was just me talking about the regular pastebin site cus I saw it posts your message up forever and I was like, wow, but then I see the ubuntu pastebin doesn't have a huge archive for everyone in public to see
[05:53] <codehotter> ubuntu_: ubuntu: well, I can send you a new key, and remember my passphrase, but you'll get another scary warning message!
[05:53] <Lasers> !info pidgin-encryption
[05:53] <ubuntu_> so im fine using ubuntu pastebin i dont care if other people see
[05:53] <codehotter> ubuntu_: ok
[05:53] <ubuntu_> what we talk about, I mean we're only talking about installing ubuntu right ?
[05:53] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all
[05:53] <codehotter> then can you paste the output of those commands to ubuntu pastebin
[05:53] <ubuntu_> hahaha wow sorry man but that was dedicated of you to that cause wow im impressed by you
[05:53] <ubuntu_> I did codehotter
[05:53] <codehotter> I mean ls /mnt/3; ls /mnt/4
[05:53] <ubuntu_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/697063/
[05:53] <JokesOnYou77> Can anyone help me get the Compiz cube rotation to work with 11.94?
[05:53] <ubuntu_> yea
[05:53] <ubuntu_> that one
[05:53] <ubuntu_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/697063/
[05:53] <JokesOnYou77> *11.04
[05:53] <FloodBot1> ubuntu_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:54] <ubuntu_> its there
[05:54] <codehotter> ubuntu_: without encryption I mean, I can't read it since I forgot my passphrase
[05:54] <ubuntu_> NO WAIT THATS NOT IT, sorry
[05:56] <ubuntu_> codehotter: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/697065/
[05:56] <codehotter> ubuntu_: OK
[05:56] <codehotter> ubuntu_: now I made another stupid mistake
[05:56] <ubuntu_> lol oh
[05:56] <codehotter> ubuntu_: can you run ls /mnt/3 and ls /mnt/4 separately so we can see which one generated it?
[05:57] <codehotter> generated that output I mean
[05:57] <StepNjump> Hi guys, a while back, I lost my system. After an update that installed, when I rebooted my system, it would only run in low graphics mode (meaning no GUI). Now that I reinstalled my system, how can I ensure this will no longer happen in the future? How can I tell which update crashed my system in the future? Thank you.
[05:57] <ubuntu_> OK hold on
[05:58] <Lasers> StepNjump: So you lost everything (your home directory)? I hope not...
[05:58] <Zatara75> 6574168ee6cb91060d25001044e9637d2b580aae48df9dad597b153e958f5d82d9dbaef4188344fe635946c09fb70a3952b92af7d74460e0b4ce6d15f8912231f94c60576b5133122e14fce
[05:58] <Zatara75>                    ¦ 498e0f584ce9a812e61ca12183ea5b
[05:58] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[05:58] <StepNjump> No sorry. I just meant to say that I couldn't get X to get up and running Lasers. sorry for the confusion
[05:58] <rww> Zatara75: ... what?
[05:58] <Zatara75> sorry guys wrong window
[05:58] <ubuntu_> codehotter: OK I put in sudo ls /mnt/3 and nothing happened now ill try 4
[05:59] <codehotter> ok
[05:59] <silv3r_m00n> on ubuntu 111.04 totem is not able to play simple vcds ? it says you may not have permission to open file , and when I try to play the .dat files from mpeg directory in the vcd , it plays horribly with 80% green patch area
[05:59] <silv3r_m00n> I remember on 8.04 totem used to play vcds very well
[05:59] <silv3r_m00n> what is causing this issue ?
[05:59] <ubuntu_> codehotter: OK yea 4 made it say that response
[05:59] <StepNjump> btw, I'm running an ACER notebook
[05:59] <codehotter> ubuntu_: so this means that /dev/sda4 has all that stuff in it and /dev/sda3 is empty
[05:59] <codehotter> ubuntu_: right?
[06:00] <Lasers> StepNjump: Yes. Well, you could look in /var/log/dpkg.log to see the latest packages (installed). Determine which packages did it. Also, try "startx" to start X manually.
[06:00] <codehotter> we can double check by typing df -h, go ahead and pastebin that too
[06:00] <ubuntu_> Hmm I guess it might , Im pretty sure SDA3 is what I just formatted so then yea ur right
[06:00] <ubuntu_> OK
[06:00] <StepNjump> Ok thanks a lot Lasers, that will help a lot in case it happens again.
[06:01] <Lasers> StepNjump: It'd be better to learn how to configure/fix/get on IRC/learn about tty/etc instead of reinstalling fresh OS everytime a little hiccup occur.
[06:01] <ubuntu_> codehotter: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/697069/
[06:01] <StepNjump> Lasers would you have any ideas which updates I should beware of in the future?
[06:01] <codehotter> ubuntu_: yep, it's nearly empty (1% used)
[06:01] <Lasers> StepNjump: None, really. It can be anything. Learn about TTY first.
[06:01] <codehotter> ubuntu_: ok, so back in the ubuntu installer, can you select /dev/sda3 as the partition to install on?
[06:02] <Lasers> StepNjump: Remembrer... Control+ALT+F7 BRING YOU BACK. That's F7.  F-SEVEN.
[06:02] <StepNjump> I salvaged my information via TTY Lasers fortunately I could do that lol! Ok... You are right. Where could I learn about TTY Lasers please??
[06:02] <Lasers> !tty | StepNjump
[06:02] <codehotter> ubuntu_: in the installer, you have the option "Use free space" right?
[06:02] <StepNjump> ok thanks
[06:03] <StepNjump> Yes this is what I tried to do
[06:03] <codehotter> ubuntu_: if you have the option "use free space" then you can delete the /dev/sda3 to make it free space
[06:03] <StepNjump> I didn't know about startx command though lasers thanks a lot
[06:03] <codehotter> ubuntu_: then try to install ubuntu to the free space
[06:03] <StepNjump> Wished you had been there when this happened months ago
[06:03] <StepNjump> Wish
[06:04] <Lasers> StepNjump: Sure. Also, learn about irssi or weechat. It's a CLI IRC client. Great if you want to chat through terminal or in TTY.
[06:04] <StepNjump> oh cool. that's awsome!
[06:06] <ubuntu_> codehotter: im back i was AFK sorry
[06:06] <ubuntu_> codehotter: OK , in the installer, it doesn't really give me lots of options
[06:06] <ubuntu_> codehotter: It says, either replace windows or do something else
[06:07] <ubuntu_> codehotter: I click on "do something else," and it says Allocate Drive Space
[06:07] <cvam> I've upgraded to natty some days ago. by uname -a I got to know that my sys uses kernel 2.6.35-22-generic . In boot directory I have another version of kernel(2.6.38)
[06:07] <codehotter> what does it say on that screen besides allocate drive space?
[06:07] <ubuntu_> codehotter: then it lists me the partitions, I highlighted sda3 , but it doesn't really say it's gonna use that to install onto, and then below it all it has Device for boot loader installation: and I don't know what I should pick for that because I already have GRUB installed
[06:08] <codehotter> ubuntu_: what buttons does it show you?
[06:08] <DND> guys
[06:08] <ubuntu_> codehotter: but I highlighted sda3 for that aswell
[06:08] <cvam> what should I do . how to use newer kernel. what's the advantage for newer one
[06:08] <ubuntu_> buttons? oh just QUIT BACK and INSTALL NOW
[06:08] <DND> in terminal, how can i killa all process that uses "curl" ?
[06:08] <cvam> I've upgraded to natty some days ago. by uname -a I got to know that my sys uses kernel 2.6.35-22-generic . In boot directory I have another version of kernel(2.6.38)what should I do . how to use newer kernel. what's the advantage for newer one
[06:09] <jroysdon> cvam, newer kernels are typically released for bugs/security issues, and also to improve performance, etc.
[06:09] <ikonia> !info linux-image natty
[06:09] <codehotter> ubuntu_: OK, I recommend you pick /dev/sda (no number) for bootloader and /dev/sda3 for install
[06:09] <ubuntu_> codehotter: OK, yeah sda 2 is the one with windows right
[06:09] <ubuntu_> whatever, im sure it is
[06:10] <codehotter> sda1 and sda2 seem windows, and sda4 seems to have some important stuff but I'm not sure what
[06:10] <codehotter> sda3 is empty
[06:10] <ubuntu_> codehotter: well it says sda4 is for windows backup
[06:10] <ubuntu_> restoration
[06:10] <codehotter> ok
[06:10] <codehotter> alright that makes sense\
[06:10] <ubuntu_> but the thing about SDA blank though!
[06:10] <blinkiz> Hello. I monitor some files on my servers like the checksum of sshd. It has changed this morning and it is probably just a security update. Anyway, can I verify the current checksum against a value on the Internet somewhere?
[06:10] <ubuntu_> it says its called TOSHIBA MK3252GS (320.1GB) so I think it's just the name of all the partitions together??
[06:11] <cvam> jroysdon: OK I got 2 versions of kernel. How can I use newer one
[06:12] <Stanley00> cvam: try update-grub
[06:12] <Stanley00> cvam: if that not work, add it manually :(
[06:12] <ubuntu_> codehotter: what do you think it seems like sda (no number) could be all of them together
[06:12] <ubuntu_> to me
[06:13] <codehotter> yes, but the bootloader should go there (NOT the installation)
[06:14] <ubuntu_> right so putting the bootloader on the SDA no number wont mess up the windows inst?  because the SDA no number doesn't even have a lable like NTFS and it's space is the space of all the rest together so im worried it might overwrite EVERYTHIGN by selecting that for the bootloader
[06:14] <ubuntu_> and also, I already have GRUB on my computer I installed it off the liveCD so couldnt I just skip installing a bootloader?
[06:14] <Stanley00> ubuntu_: install there is equal to install to MBR somehow...
[06:15] <codehotter> ubuntu_: selecting /dev/sda for the bootloader will make your main bootloader grub
[06:15] <codehotter> ubuntu_: if you already have grub, you may skip it, but I do not recommend doing so
[06:15] <codehotter> ubuntu_: it's not certain the existing grub installation will work properly with your new ubuntu install
[06:16] <ubuntu_> codehotter: OK , does it matter if sda 2 and 4 have (loader) after their names on this installer though?
[06:16] <codehotter> I'm not sure what that means.
[06:16] <codehotter> blinkiz: debsums openssh-server
[06:17] <codehotter> also check /var/log/dpkg.log
[06:17] <ubuntu_> codehotter: OK I selected the sda no number as the bootloader, and 3 as the installation, and it gave me this error message : No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu
[06:17] <codehotter> blinkiz: you should get the md5sum file for openssh-server from the internet, since the malware planter may have modified the md5sums file on your system too ; |)
[06:18] <codehotter> ubuntu_: you need to go back to the partitioning menu
[06:18] <codehotter> sorry can somebody help ubuntu_  here? I need to go
[06:18] <codehotter> ubuntu_: good luck :(
[06:18] <andrew_> hey, I was wondering how I get the automounter to mount with sudo privileges, so that files can be drag/dropped using the file manager?
[06:18] <ubuntu_> there's no partitioning menu though... it only has this as its first screen in installation lol
[06:18] <ubuntu_> OK thx for help codehotter love u bro
[06:18] <andrew_> since right now, the files are locked
[06:18] <Stanley00> andrew_: try edit /etc/fstab file
[06:20] <andrew_> Stanley00, what does the line need to be for a usb keydrive?
[06:20] <Stanley00> andrew_: usb key is mount automatically,
[06:21] <andrew_> Stanley00, /dev/sdb1       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0 is the line
[06:21] <StepNjump> lasers and others, good night... I will try that weechat see if I can figure it out and after that it's time for bed. Good night all
[06:21] <ubuntu_> Hey anyone here good at installing ubuntu?  I am lost on it badly can't get past first screen of installation on liveCD
[06:21] <ubuntu_> GNIGHT stepnjump
[06:22] <Stanley00> andrew_: I dont know what you mean when you said root privileges?
[06:23] <andrew_> Stanley00, well, all the icons in the file manager are have a locked symbol, and I want to be able to read/write to the drive with the file manager when it automounts
[06:23] <dfcnvt> Am I to learn that this new ubuntu version is disabled on screensaver?
[06:23] <Stanley00> andrew_: is that a cdrom drive?
[06:23] <andrew_> no, a 4gb USB thumbdrive
[06:24] <ubuntu_> hey guys im having a huge problem with the installation it is giving instructions that don't exist, makes 0 sense at all
[06:24] <Stanley00> andrew_: I think you should comment out that line in fstab and replug your thumbdrive again.
[06:24] <andrew_> ill gve it a shot, thanks
[06:25] <binni> what kind of problems are possible to happen related to if I install ubuntu 11.10 beta 2 and just upgrade it regularly through synaptic, instead of waiting for ubuntu 11.10 and do the same?
[06:25] <spartan07> hey guys is there a way to do 3 screens on a evga gtx 295? my 3rd screen does not work and needs to be HDMI. Anyone having an issue like this?
[06:26] <spartan07> running ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[06:26] <urlin2u> binni, same install if nothing breaks
[06:26] <andrew_> Stanley00, no dice with that approach
[06:26] <binni> urlin2u: okay, thanks.
[06:26] <stepnjump> Lasers, if you are still here, it worked with weechat! Thank you very much
[06:27] <Stanley00> andrew_: can you pastebin the output of command "mount"?
[06:28] <ubuntu_> <-- really desperate for installation help, stuck on same screen for 3 hours.. - .   -
[06:29] <andrew_> Stanley00,  http://pastebin.ca/2082947
[06:30] <andrew_> ubuntu_, what's on that screen?
[06:30] <andrew_> and did you get the right install for your system (x86, x64, desktop, laptop,etc)
[06:30] <Stanley00> andrew_: and you still cant read the files in /media/disk?
[06:30] <ubuntu_> andrew_: thx man, well basically its the LiveCD installation for ubuntu and, yea, really pathetic right? but I installed it in 2009 without these weird issues though
[06:31] <ubuntu_> andrew_: yeah I have 64 bit windows so I got the 64 bit ubuntu installer
[06:31] <ubuntu_> andrew_: oh i have a laptop though... but i just saw 1 option for 64 bit
[06:31] <dhruvasagar> Hey is there a way for me to run a bash script without having for the commands to actually work, just to kindof test what it is supposed to do ?
[06:31] <andrew_> Stanley00, I can view yes, but not write.
[06:31] <ubuntu_> andrew_: but thing is, its stuck on this screen saying Allocate Drive Space
[06:32] <ubuntu_> listing my partitions, telling me to select device for boot loader installation,
[06:32] <ubuntu_> and no matter what i pick it always tells me   : No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu.
[06:32] <ubuntu_> andrew_: any ideas what this all means?
[06:32] <Stanley00> andrew_: it's strange, can yout pastebin the out put of "ls -l /media/disk" please?
[06:33] <andrew_> Ubuntu - there should be an auto-partition tool included with the liveCD, did you use this, or try and set up your own custom partitions?
[06:33] <binni> dhruvasagar: if it doesn't require root privileges then run it under a dummy user and see what happens, if it requires root privileges and changes the system then maybe you can run it undir virtual box.
[06:33] <binni> under*
[06:33] <ubuntu_> UPDATE: I just realize all the partitions dont have mount points , should I set them? but problem is it only gives me /dos and /windows to set the mount points as....
[06:33] <ubuntu_> andrew_: im just following after you click on the desktop icon saying Install
[06:34] <andrew_> Stanley00, http://pastebin.ca/2082952
[06:34] <dhruvasagar> binni: yes I am aware of the virtualization options, this is actually a script written by me, some of the commands are run with sudo so they require that. But I just wanted to check and see if the messages in between commands are formatted correctly, I guess I will simply comment out stuff and confirm that
[06:35] <ubuntu_> andrew_: any ideas?
[06:35] <andrew_> ubuntu_, try restarting the install, and install straight off instead of using the "try it out" option?
[06:35] <ubuntu_> andrew_: but I want to dual boot
[06:35] <Stanley00> andrew_: hmm, is your username andrew? it looks normal here,
[06:36] <ubuntu_> andrew_: my whole point is i wanna put it on a 6 GB partition I just formatted , while leaving my windows in tact
[06:36] <andrew_> Stanley00, yeah, username is andrew.
[06:36] <ubuntu_> andrew_: so i think that if I just did the install straight off it would format everything right
[06:36] <ubuntu_> ?
[06:36] <sdperez79> does anyone play ava from ijji.com?
[06:36] <andrew_> ubuntu_, you'll have to replace the windows boot record with one from a bootloader and edit the bootloader as appropriate for a dual boot.
[06:36] <DontTrip> anyone have any trouble logging into google chrome "set up sync" in 11.04? It just keeps trying to authenticate and never errors out
[06:36] <Stanley00> andrew_: one more thing, can you pastebin "ls -l /media" and "cat /etc/fstab" ?
[06:37] <sdperez79> im am trying to run that fps shooter game on linux any ideas?
[06:38] <andrew_> Stanley00, http://pastebin.ca/2082953
[06:38] <Stanley00> andrew_: thanks, I will look at that
[06:38] <andrew_> Stanley00, np, thanks for taking a look.
[06:40] <greenmang0> hi friends, i am running few windows VMs on a linux system using virtual box, i want to access those VMs through other ubuntu and windows system in network... (access as in the GUI, so that developers can test the website on different versions of IE , FF, and Chrome) .. is that possible? and if yes, how
[06:41] <Stanley00> andrew_: what is the output of "groups andrew" ?
[06:41] <LigH> Greetings.
[06:41] <alkafoo> greenmang0: yes
[06:41] <andrew_> Stanley00, andrew : andrew adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin admin
[06:42] <LigH> I found a lot of websites talking about "Ubuntu hangs while booting unless I press a key". How may I help detecting my specific reason?
[06:42] <greenmang0> alkafoo, how can i do that?
[06:42] <ikonia> LigH: are you currently having a problem ?
[06:42] <alkafoo> greenmang0: there's a built-in VNC thing, let me see how one accesses it
[06:43] <Stanley00> andrew_: thay are all look normal.... cant figure out why...
[06:43] <LigH> ikonia: Not always, but today again.
[06:43] <ikonia> LigH: could you explain the problem please.
[06:43] <alkafoo> greenmang0: ah okay, Settings > Display > Remote Display (tab)
[06:43] <alkafoo> greenmang0: connect with vncviewer, I imagine
[06:43] <jroysdon> yup
[06:44] <andrew_> Stanley00, would it help if I gave you the error for when I try and write to the device?
[06:44] <alkafoo> greenmang0: actually I'm looking at a Windows version of VirtualBox just now and it says RDP, but there's definitely VNC support there too
[06:44] <andrew_> Stanley00, or should we create a separate fstab entry with specific arguments for this?
[06:44] <Stanley00> andrew_: oh, I forgot that,
[06:44] <alkafoo> greenmang0: dunno if that's just substituted for the Windows build or what
[06:44] <andrew_> Stanley00, forgot which? The fstab entry?
[06:45] <greenmang0> alkafoo, let me check
[06:45] <Stanley00> andrew_: the error message :))
[06:45] <LigH> I have a multiboot environment (Ubuntu 11 in 32 and 64 bit, and Windows XP). When I select the entry for one of the Ubuntu installations, sometimes it stays with a blank black screen; when I press any key, even just "Ctrl", the mouse switches off and on, and a few seconds later the magenta text boot screen with the 4 dots appears.
[06:45] <alkafoo> greenmang0: but even if it's just rdp and not vnc, you could use rdesktop or freerdp from Unixland
[06:45] <ikonia> LigH: how do you know the mouse switches on and off ?
[06:46] <bilegt> where is rc.conf in ubuntu?
[06:46] <alkafoo> bilegt: what're you trying to accomplish?
[06:46] <LigH> It is an optical mouse, partially transparent. The red LED is visible.
[06:46] <LigH> USB mouse.
[06:46] <andrew_> Stanley00, http://pastebin.ca/2082956
[06:46] <harry_> bilegt:/etc/init/rc.conf
[06:47] <ikonia> LigH: have you looked at the possability of removing the boot splash so you can see what's going on behind the boot up process ?
[06:48] <LigH> I may try that. I hope the GRUB Customizer has a matching option, or I would have to read the GRUB 2 manual first ...
[06:48] <andrew_> Stanley00, I also just looked at the permissions for a folder within /media/disk/ which revealed that it is read write, belonging to group: root
[06:49] <ikonia> LigH: grub customizer ?
[06:49] <Stanley00> andrew_: it said read-only? but mount said that it mount rw,
[06:49] <andrew_> in the file manager, it said read-write.
[06:49] <sdperez79> onplayonlinux how do i create a shortcut on ubuntu 11.04 on the desktop
[06:50] <andrew_> but the group says root, which is not a group that showed up in andrews groups andrew output
[06:50] <sdperez79> i accidentally deleted it
[06:50] <andrew_> would that be the trouble?
[06:50] <Stanley00> andrew_: I dont know why it said group root, but the owner has all permission, and the group has nothing
[06:51] <sdperez79> programs still there just wanted a short cut
[06:51] <andrew_> Stanley00, though the thing that strikes me as odd is that it refers to the drive as a read only FS
[06:51] <Stanley00> andrew_: I think you should backup your UDB and reformat it...
[06:51] <andrew_> Stanley00, just fdisk it or cfdisk it?
[06:52] <Stanley00> andrew_: use the Disk utility instead... I prefer GUI tool :)
[06:52] <LigH> ikonia: https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer -- used this to edit some options related to the appearance, e.g. using a lower-res mode for the GRUB menu. The shipped "StartUp Manager" is not really GRUB 2 compatible anymore.
[06:53] <ikonia> LigH: I've never used that tool so I don't know how it may/may not effect anything.
[06:53] <LigH> Afterwards I executed "sudo grub-update" to ensure it being rebuilt compatibly. Afterwards it started several times without delay, so it was usually fine.
[06:54] <LigH> It stalled sometimes before I ever installed grub-optimizer.
[06:54] <sdperez79> in playonlinux how do i make a shortcut from the programs i have installed(playinlinux)to desktop
[06:54] <LigH> So it is not related to this.
[06:54] <sdperez79> ubuntu11.04
[06:54] <LigH> Rather to a cold-starting device, probably.
[06:54] <ikonia> LigH: I'm not blaming it, I just saying I don't know how that tool works, so I don't know the effects it will have.
[06:55] <andrew_> Stanley00, which menu is the disk utility located under?
[06:55] <LigH> Currently it has the kernel parameters "quiet splash", Shall I try to remove both?
[06:56] <Stanley00> andrew_: did you backup ALL your usb?
[06:57] <andrew_> yup, got it now, cp -R /media/disk to a ~/backup folder
[06:57] <andrew_> and found out this system didn't have disk utility by default
[06:57] <andrew_> so it's downloading from the synaptic package manager now
[06:58] <LigH> Details about grub-optimizer: https://answers.launchpad.net/grub-customizer/+faq/1355 -- it aims at editing the menu order and misc. options, while preserving the dynamic generating features.
[06:58] <Stanley00> andrew_: start DIsk utility, just click on the USB diskdrive, look on the right panel, you will see format...
[06:58] <andrew_> Stanley00, what scheme should I use?
[06:59] <andrew_> MBR, right?
[06:59] <Stanley00> andrew_: yes
[07:00] <LigH> ikonia: Currently it has the kernel parameters "quiet splash". Shall I try to remove both?
[07:00] <ikonia> LigH: up to you.
[07:01] <LigH>  '<
[07:01] <LigH> BRB - maybe...
[07:04] <andrew_> Stanley00, thanks for the help, we're good to go now that the backup and reformat has happened.
[07:04] <dragonkiller666> I am trying to do a fresh install of ubuntu with 11
[07:05] <dragonkiller666> .04 With the liveusb i to boots but it gets to a point it stop and my screen goes black my screen comes up no dvi signal thats normal for my montior when theres no singal going to it
[07:06] <sdperez79> what is the alternative to camstudio?
[07:06] <wyang_> Could not locate executable g77
[07:06] <melvincv> hi all
[07:07] <wyang_> someone see this error message?
[07:07] <wyang_> i should install gcc ?
[07:07] <melvincv> how do I display the GRUB2 menu on starting Ubuntu 11.04? My GRUB menu seems to be hidden now.
[07:08] <sdperez79> anyone know a alternative to cam studio?
[07:08] <Stanley00> sdperez79: try recordmydesktop, or search in Ubuntu Software Center
[07:08] <sdperez79> thanks
[07:08] <dragonkiller666> melvincv i can't even get 11
[07:08] <dragonkiller666> .04 installed
[07:09] <melvincv> I asked as the GRUB2 configuration is very complex compared to GRUB.
[07:09] <melvincv> I can't figure out how to do it myself :(
[07:10] <ikonia> melvincv: can you see the time out option ?
[07:10] <Stanley00> melvincv: all config is in /etc/default/grub or /etc/grub.d/* , althoung it's a bit complex too :)
[07:10] <melvincv> Yes, I tried that in grub.cfg. Doesn't work...
[07:11] <melvincv> I need to boot to the recovery mode. How do I do that?
[07:11] <Stanley00> melvincv: press Shift or Ctrl at booting time doesnt help?
[07:11] <ikonia> melvincv: you need to do it from the grub menu, if you change the time out to above 0 you'll see the menu
[07:12] <melvincv> there are two timeouts: -1 and 30.
[07:12] <melvincv> I tried setting both to 30, doesn't work.
[07:13] <melvincv> Stanley00, is it shift or ctrl?
[07:13] <Stanley00> melvincv: nvm, how many OS do you have on your system?
[07:14] <Stanley00> melvincv: I dont remember, one of them will show the grub menu
[07:14] <melvincv> Just Ubuntu 11.04. I need to get to it's recovery mode.
[07:15] <Stanley00> melvincv: That's the point, it seem that if you have only one OS, the time out will not work at all :(
[07:15] <melvincv> OK, will the shift or ctrl key work if there is only one OS?
[07:16] <Stanley00> melvincv: I hope so
[07:16] <LigH> ikonia: Just had a kernel update for new Nvidia drivers; afterwards, the booting process got stuck with the mouse switching off, but not back on, so I had to reset the PC. Then it booted after a little while without pressing any key, but not with the expected amount of logging, fsck was the first I could read. You see, it is not reliable, and I may need another source of logs to search for possible reasons. Will try with the 64-bit version
[07:16] <LigH> afterwards.
[07:17] <ikonia> LigH: that to me sounds like you have a hardware issue
[07:17] <ikonia> LigH: possible the disk you are trying to boot not spinning up quick enough,
[07:17] <ikonia> or a simple motherboard error.
[07:17] <ikonia> or ram
[07:17] <ikonia> etc
[07:17] <LigH> Or USB.
[07:18] <ikonia> exactly.
[07:18] <LigH> I remember a version of Ubuntu years ago, which wouldn't boot at all unless I plugged out the APC BackUPS.
[07:18] <ikonia> LigH: I don't believe this is an ubuntu issue, rather a hardware issue as I've stated
[07:18] <ikonia> LigH: if it was an OS issue, I'd expect it to do it every time
[07:19] <dragonkiller666> i can get the 11.04 to boot from usb it get a point then it stops and my screen goes black
[07:19] <LigH> Yes, probably a driver which was not perfectly programmed, often due to the lack of specifications from the manufacturer.
[07:19] <ikonia> LigH: no, I'll say it again
[07:19] <ikonia> LigH: I don't believe this is a software error - it sounds like a hardware error
[07:20] <ikonia> LigH: if it was a software error, I'd expect it to be doing it every time.
[07:20] <ikonia> LigH: so not drivers. Hardware.
[07:21] <LigH> Well. How to detect those ... as long as it boots after a keypress (or one reset in a while), I doubt it is worth much more effort.
[07:21] <avelldiroll> dragonkiller666: did you check the md5sum of the iso file you used to make your liveUSB ? did you check the liveUSB on antother computer ?
[07:21] <ikonia> LigH: There is your answer then
[07:21] <LigH> :| - Some like philosophical replies more than others...
[07:21] <LigH> :P
[07:21] <LigH> \o CU
[07:22] <ikonia> LigH: it's not philosophical you just said it wasn't worth the effort, so then carry on
[07:25] <dragonkiller666> avelldiroll i just tested it on my wifes laptop and it worked fine
[07:26] <dragonkiller666> never mind it came up with error
[07:27] <avelldiroll> dragonkiller666: ok, so the culprit is most probably your usk key/disk, the iso or the process you used to build it
[07:28] <anjay-hard> how to disable utc in terminal
[07:28] <dragonkiller666> avelldiroll: (initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squasjfs failed: no such device can not mount /dev/loop /cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs on //filesystem.squashfs
[07:29] <anjay-hard> hi guys , how to disable utc in terminal
[07:30] <avelldiroll> dragonkiller666: the live system does not find the data it needs on the usb disk
[07:36] <scarleo> anjay-hard, utc is a global concept, you can't disable utc. What is it you want to do?
[07:37] <dragonkiller666> what do i need to do
[07:38] <anjay-hard> I am building a livecd  , the utc is not necessary
[07:38] <rww> anjay-hard: if you mean "how do I change my timezone?", sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata is the command-line way.
[07:39] <anjay-hard> let me try
[07:39] <Zgomot> /s irc.lug.ro
[07:39] <avelldiroll> darkcharl: test the usbkey (or try another one), check the iso's md5, and review the process you used to prepare your liveUSB
[07:39] <avelldiroll> arf sorry darkcharl, i meant dragonkiller666
[07:41] <anjay-hard> thx , rww
[07:41] <dragonkiller666> i used www.pendrivelinux.com/
[07:43] <farciarz84> what is the channel for 11.10?
[07:43] <avelldiroll> dragonkiller666: you're building your liveUSB from windows ?
[07:43] <rhin01> this farciarz84
[07:44] <rww> farciarz84: #ubuntu+1
[07:44] <avelldiroll> farciarz84: #ubuntu+1
[07:44] <rww> rhin01: no, this channel isn't for 11.10 until it's released
[07:44] <rhin01> ok
[07:44] <rhin01> I just abandoned 11.04
[07:44] <rhin01> finally
[07:44] <farciarz84> anyway skype doesn't dock in taskbar in 11.10 it is in unity bar. Unfortunately it disappeared from unity. Hot to bring it to screen?
[07:44] <farciarz84> hot=how
[07:45] <elky> My unity icons have all gone invisible. This is less than helpful.
[07:46] <farciarz84> ok but from console, I hope there is a way to bint it to my screen (skype proc)
[07:46] <farciarz84> bint=bring
[07:48] <farciarz84> because now I cannot do anything. There is skype process running and I cannot use it. Taskbar icon is not avaiable, unity icon cracshed.
[07:48] <avelldiroll> farciarz84: don't cross-post, your issue concern only #ubuntu+1, not here
[07:48] <linux> fafa
[07:48] <farciarz84> avelldiroll: Isn't the same in 11.04?
[07:48] <MyWay> hello, I'm running this command at boot: xset m 3 1 but It's not working, if I do it from terminal, after boot it is, why? How can I do to autorun it? Thank you!
[07:48] <avelldiroll> farciarz84: i don't know, but you are using 11.10 hence #ubuntu+1
[07:49] <farciarz84> avelldiroll: you know nobody responses there :/
[07:49] <farciarz84> avelldiroll: finally I ask how to pring gui process to screen which is general question for linu/ubuntu
[07:49] <farciarz84> pring=bring
[07:50] <avelldiroll> farciarz84: you can't expect the same level of support for a testing version, testing is for bug reporting after all it means "not ready to be supported"
[07:50] <ikonia> farciarz84: #ubuntu+1 is where you should be asking. Please take it herer
[07:50] <ikonia> there
[07:51] <farciarz84> ikonia: I did it already.
[07:51] <ikonia> farciarz84: then please wait for a response there, don't bring the issue to this channel please.
[07:51] <dragonkiller666> think i fuiger out what it was
[07:52] <avelldiroll> dragonkiller666: what was it then ?
[07:52] <dragonkiller666> The error "Can not mount /dev/loop1 on /cow" is because usb-creator.exe is not creating a valid casper-rw file holding ext2/ext3 filesystem
[07:53] <scarleo> farciarz84, just kill the process and start it again: killall skype
[07:55] <sw3439> hi
[07:55] <dragonkiller666> my dvd will not even boot it well get to the islinux 4.01 and just freeze
[07:57] <shaibn> Hello :) I'm at a bit of a problem. I have a install of Ubuntu 10.04 Desktop 64bit and when I go to System -> Preferences -> Keyboard ; and click on Add to add another layout, it pops up a small popup really fast that I can't make out, and then just gets stuck. I can't close the Keyboard Preferences window, but I can move it around. Non of the buttons are clickable and the only way to close it, is to kill the PID. Any ideas what this might be?
[07:59] <___MAX> failed recovery passwd in single mode : http://i54.tinypic.com/n4bj2b.png
[07:59] <ikonia> ___MAX: why are you root
[08:00] <ikonia> ___MAX: why are you asking for help with centos in #ubuntu
[08:00] <ikonia> ___MAX: ask in #centos
[08:00] <___MAX> it is VM
[08:00] <___MAX> on ubuntu
[08:00] <___MAX> any i dea
[08:00] <ikonia> ___MAX: not #ubuntu's problem
[08:00] <ikonia> ___MAX: ask in #centos
[08:00] <ikonia> ___MAX: ask in #centos, please.
[08:00] <___MAX> thx
[08:01] <shaibn> If it helps, when I start gnome-keyboard-properties as root from console, I get these couple of lines when I click the Add button:
[08:01] <shaibn> dpy: 0x10b5600
[08:01] <shaibn> evt/error/major/minor: 119/166/1/0
[08:06] <almoxarife> I return from suspend to 'locked screen' regardless of settings in power settings/ screen saver / , any thoughts? I expect that there is a conf file somewhere, but I can't find it,
[08:06] <tfreeze> Trying to install php5-pgsql I get a dependancy error: http://pastebin.com/SLT2mqNf Could someone be so kind and help me out?
[08:08] <mpl> hi. I'm on 10.04. What do I have to do for the visual effects choice to be persistent across reboots?
[08:10] <nev> ok
[08:10] <almoxarife> mpl: look at login-settings
[08:12] <sdperez79> can anyone please tell me a alternative to adobe premiere
[08:13] <mpl> almoxarife: I don't think I have such a thing here. I have "Login screen" in the administration section.
[08:13] <bambanx> guys a good translator like babylon ?
[08:14] <almoxarife> mpl: sounds right, should be able to set your preference there
[08:15] <jlind> does anyone here know anything about UDS and graphics sessions. how goes ubuntu's wayland integration?
[08:16] <sdperez79> whats the best video editor on ubuntu ?
[08:16] <mpl> almoxarife: what preference? this only allows to choose the default wm/desktop.
[08:17] <x404x> bambanx have u tryed google translate ?
[08:17] <almoxarife> mpl: define 'visual effect'
[08:17] <x404x> or babelfish
[08:17] <bambanx> is a desktop app? x404x
[08:18] <x404x> no theyre online
[08:18] <bambanx> i need a desktop app for read my pdf
[08:18] <bambanx> :/
[08:19] <almoxarife> bambanx: evince should work
[08:19] <bambanx> evince have shotcuts like ctrl key for trasnlate on documents?
[08:19] <mpl> almoxarife: system -> preferences -> appearance -> visual effects tab.
[08:20] <mpl> almoxarife: I can set it to normal, and it works fine, I can then tweak all the compiz stuff. however after a reboot it sets it back to minimal.
[08:20] <sdperez79> whats the best video editor for ubuntu?
[08:21] <bambanx> sdperez79, check this http://techcityinc.com/2009/02/04/top-10-free-video-editors-for-ubuntu-linux/
[08:21] <sdperez79> thanks sorry i am new
[08:22] <bambanx> Cinelerra looks cool
[08:23] <x404x> http://www.labnol.org/internet/tools/translate-pdf-word-documents-online-google-translate/3553/
[08:23] <x404x> heres how to translate docs like pdf ,word etc with google translate
[08:24] <bambanx> x404x, thanks men,but if i translate all document the context of phrase sometimes is losted
[08:24] <bambanx> x404x, i know a little of english , but some words i dunno
[08:24] <bambanx> :)
[08:25] <rcngeoff> Hi.. I am getitng this in dmesg:  "Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = 73208028 ns)"  Is that something that could cause system instability?
[08:25] <x404x> no translater is perfect... its always fun to see the russian scammers using online translaters and their messages end up like total nonsence lol
[08:25] <bambanx> lol
[08:26] <roger21> hi, i can't get beep to work, any advice ?
[08:29] <iceroot> roger21: what does "cant get to work" mean?
[08:29] <sdperez79> kool, now just to find a fps game to replace ava
[08:29] <roger21> iceroot, no sound
[08:31] <iceroot> roger21: check "alsamixer" if "beep" is muted
[08:32] <iceroot> roger21: also check if the pcspkr module is loaded (lsmod)
[08:33] <silverarrow> this might be a silly question but would any usb hub work the same in buntu, or are powered ones performing any better?
[08:33] <StaRetji> Yo :) What would be the command to show dpkg -l (but page by page, because I can't scroll it) THX!
[08:33] <runlevelten> !soundbroken
[08:33] <runlevelten> !pulsebroken
[08:33] <runlevelten> !nattysoundissues
[08:34] <iceroot> StaRetji: command | less
[08:34] <StaRetji> iceroot: thx dude :)
[08:35] <roger21> iceroot, alsamixer seems fine, pcspkr isn't loaded, how do load it ?
[08:36] <iceroot> roger21: hm as it seems 11.10 is no longer using that module, dont know what 11.04 is doing there
[08:37] <silverarrow> 11.10 is out?
[08:37] <roger21> 11.04 here
[08:37] <auronandace> silverarrow: not stable release yet
[08:37] <silverarrow> I see
[08:37] <silverarrow> stable is always debatable anyhow
[08:37] <roger21> iceroot, ok i worls with pcspkr, thanks
[08:37] <ikonia> silverarrow: no
[08:38] <roger21> hum how do i have it loaded at startup again ?
[08:38] <roxxy> i am unable to open my home folder, it opens VLC up.  is there some where i can check to see if the file path has changed? if so how or where can i check to see and correct it?
[08:38] <roxxy> or a website that would help me with this issue.
[08:40] <silverarrow> roxxy, not shore, but you could hopen folder, then chose open in vlc to check?
[08:41] <silverarrow> roxxy, if things are lost you could investigate with something like GDmap
[08:41] <x404x> sounds like a bad symlink or cross linked file , if the shortcut to home changed to open vlc f.ex ?
[08:44] <x404x> lol sound like game over for the raid mr opps ?
[08:45] <roxxy> it opens all my files that is in my home folder in vlc. and x404x its does that on my quickaccess browser and any other way
[08:45] <x404x> I never quite get over the days when kernel panic changes to oops
[08:46] <x404x> tryed to open a file explorer ? or open another path like computer and browse to home
[08:47] <silverarrow> roxxy, funny, like vlc mozilla plugin really have taken over
[08:47] <alkafoo> open a terminal and run ls ~/
[08:53] <roxxy> silverarrow: i believe it has! lol freaking did an update and had to restart my computer and it did that
[08:55] <jtza8> I'm still using Ubuntu 10.04, I'm also used to using the Emacs key-binding C-M-t
[08:55] <jtza8> ... which opens a terminal in Gnome
[08:55] <jtza8> How would I disable that "feature"
[08:55] <sitmaudat> hi everyone
[08:55] <sitmaudat> I am new here
[08:55] <susundberg> hello
[08:56] <sitmaudat> come from HongKong
[08:56] <alkafoo> jtza8: what do you want it to do?
[08:56] <alkafoo> sitmaudat: hi
[08:56] <sitmaudat>  I wanna learn something about linux
[08:57] <jtza8> alkafoo: I'd like Gnome to ignore its shortcut key.
[08:58] <elky> Hrm. My unity icons are still invisible. Any way to make them visible again?
[08:59] <jtza8> IIRC, I might have been the guy that added that shortcut via the Gnome registry... oops, oh well... I might be able to fix it from here. Thanks :)
[09:01] <auronandace> !manual | sitmaudat
[09:02] <Bhavesh> I was updating my Ubutnu 10.10 to 11.04 through System > Preferences > Update Manager > Upgrade, it downloaded all the files and was installing them when suddenly I had a power cut. After which when I open Ubuntu, it says the Drive at / is not ready
[09:02] <Kv`> hi, id like take a screenshot of my 2nd screen, its possible ? i dont want have my 2 screens in my screenshot
[09:02] <Bhavesh> and Ubuntu does not open
[09:02] <Wiz_KeeD> hello everyone
[09:02] <Wiz_KeeD> can anyone please tell me how i can add a user to an existing group?
[09:02] <chaospsychex> Bhavesh: Damn dude, you need to do a reinstall then
[09:02] <Bhavesh> chaospsychex: :(
[09:03] <chaospsychex> You should look into a 'UPS'
[09:03] <chaospsychex> good thing you weren't doing a BIOS upgrade or something
[09:03] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[09:04] <chaospsychex> Wiz_KeeD: System>Administration>Users and Groups
[09:05] <sitmaudat> thx
[09:05] <chaospsychex> alternatively you can do 'man adduser' to learn about the 'adduser' command
[09:07] <freckle> Hi. I am getting a problem with the lightning plugin for thunderbird not being compatible .. I am using TB 3.1.13 and lightning 1.0b5
[09:07] <pixie79> hi all, I am looking to build a basic live server cd but am unsure if there is an ubuntu based live server image out there that I could base my work on to save reintenting the wheel (or any other OS), basically all i need is for it to boot the box from usb/cd and allow SSH - after which i will add xinetd.
[09:08] <jtza8> Who thinks a "registry" is a good idea anyway (other than Gnome)?
[09:09] <jtza8> I can't seem to find that keybinding I was looking for.
[09:11] <sitmaudat> and I am getting a problem with my graphic card, Nvidia GForce 310M.I can't install the Graphics driver. My ubuntu 11.04 is 64bits version
[09:11] <sitmaudat> how can i do
[09:12] <roxxy> :\ even the gui settings say the directiroy is correct and the vlc is correct also
[09:12] <racho> sitmaudat, are you using the Additional Drivers tool?
[09:13] <sitmaudat> ys   but it doesn't work
[09:13] <racho> sitmaudat, what kind of error does it give?
[09:14] <sitmaudat> if i install the driver it offer  .i can't use the unity
[09:15] <racho> sitmaudat, did you try using the other driver suggestions?
[09:15] <sitmaudat> no yet
[09:17] <sitmaudat> racho    is there any other method?
[09:19] <wyang_> Could not locate executable g77
[09:19] <wyang_> some idea on this?
[09:22] <racho> wyang_, what operation gives you this error?
[09:23] <wyang_> i am installing the autotest server
[09:24] <wyang_> actually i am not sure which packet need g77
[09:26] <hamed> hi when i try to install ubuntu on my laptop the hard converted to just 1 part and it didn't see the partitions
[09:26] <racho> wyang_, i think the g77 was connected with the f2c translator
[09:28] <hamed> oh any one here
[09:28] <hamed> ?
[09:28] <chaospsychex> hello
[09:28] <hamed> hello
[09:28] <wyang_> racho, fortran to c?
[09:29] <wyang_> racho, i search the internet, it mentioned that previously it is a part of gcc
[09:29] <wyang_> but after 4.0, gcc do not support it
[09:29] <racho> wyang_, i suppose you could get the shared libs or the actual fort compiler if it's in the dependencies
[09:30] <wyang_> hmm... how?
[09:32] <racho> wyang_, gfortran
[09:32] <sux> Hi everyone, I baught an HP-dv7-4285dx laptop which comes with switachable graphics(intel/ati-readon), and 6GB of RAM . I installed ubuntu 11.04 recently and found out it only shows me 2GB.. does that mean I don't have a linux compatible hardware or what?
[09:33] <wyang_> racho, let me have a try
[09:34] <wyang_> racho, no not work
[09:35] <racho> wyang_, ok remove it and try apt-get install python-dev
[09:35] <wyang_> racho, still not work
[09:36] <wyang_> racho, i see someone suggest this approach
[09:36] <racho> wyang_, show the error messages
[09:45] <binni> is there a ubuntu 11.10 channel?
[09:46] <silverarrow> roxxy?
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> binni: #ubuntu+1
[09:46] <binni> MonkeyDust: okay, thanks.
[09:47] <tapout> hello, somehow I broke X.  I installed the bitcoin generating stuff, rebooted... and now when X is supposed to load, i get a black screen.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[09:48] <csenger41> hey everyone :)
[09:48] <hamed> why no one reply me
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> !ask| hamed
[09:49] <csenger41> hamed: idk, i just came online, tell ur problem again
[09:50] <lag> My computer just randomly shut-down - which channel is best to winge in?
[09:50] <hamed> i have windows in my laptop when i tried to install ubuntu it see the hard as a just one partition not more
[09:51] <HyperJapan> Hey guys
[09:51] <csenger41> lag: is it a laptop or PC?
[09:51] <MonkeyDust> hamed: in ubuntu, type df - h | pastebin and paste it here, so we can see it
[09:51] <hamed> the hard is 80 as 4 partition it appear as 1 partition
[09:51] <lag> hamed: You have to create partitions - the Ubuntu Installer CD-ROM will help you
[09:51] <lag> csenger41: Desktop
[09:52] <HyperJapan> If I were to install Kubuntu 11.10 Beta 2 right now, when the final or another beta comes round, do I need to do a fresh install or update-manager -d, or can I just run normal updates to bring me to the latest release?
[09:52] <csenger41> lag: it may be PSU problem
[09:52] <lag> csenger41: No, it was shutdown by the OS
[09:52] <lag> csenger41: It shutdown properly, but I'm unsure what caused it
[09:52] <almoxarife> hamed: windows has taken all of the hard drive, consider wubi
[09:53] <csenger41> lag: ohh i see
[09:53] <hamed> i dont use wubi
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> HyperJapan: wrong channel, join #ubuntu+1
[09:53] <HyperJapan> MonkeyDust: Thanks :)
[09:53] <lag> hamed: How much free space do you have on your HDD?
[09:54] <csenger41> lag: when you turn it on again, does windows says anything like it was recovered from serious problem?
[09:54] <hamed> 17 in first partition and 17 in second partition
[09:54] <hamed> 17 gb
[09:54] <lag> csenger41: Windows? I use Ubuntu exclusively
[09:54] <csenger41> hamed: does all ur partitions used?
[09:55] <hamed> the first one (windows installed)
[09:55] <csenger41> lag: damn, sry lol, you and hamed wrote right after each other and i got confused
[09:55] <lag> hamed: Use a disk manager (such as gpart) to divi it up better
[09:55] <hamed> buntu@ubuntu:~$ df - h
[09:55] <hamed> df: `-': No such file or directory
[09:55] <hamed> df: `h': No such file or directory
[09:55] <hamed> df: no file systems processed
[09:55] <hamed> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ df - h | pastebin
[09:55] <hamed> df: `-': No such file or directory
[09:55] <hamed> df: `h': No such file or directory
[09:55] <hamed> df: no file systems processed
[09:55] <hamed> pastebin: command not found
[09:55] <lag> hamed: df -h
[09:55] <csenger41> lag: what ru doing what ur comp shuts down?
[09:56] <lag> csenger41: It has high I/O, but still shouldn't shut down
[09:56] <tapout> how do you fix a broken X?
[09:56] <lag> csenger41: I've looked in /var/log/[kern.log&syslog], but there's nothing in there
[09:57] <hamed> sorry i must go to pray now i will come back later
[09:57] <csenger41> lag: well i have no idea sorry
[09:57] <lag> csenger41: I wasn't asking you to fix it :)
[09:57] <sux> Hi, can anyone help me? I have laptop with 6GB of ram and intel/ati-readon switchable graphics card. I installed ubuntu 11.04, but it shows me that I have 2.3 GB of RAM.. and tried debian and gentoo live CD to check if I have the same problem in other destro. but still it keep showing me that I have 2.3GB of RAM, is it because of switchable graphics?
[09:57] <lag> csenger41: I'd like to know what channel to take it to?
[09:58] <hamed> aufs                  1.3G  133M  1.1G  11% /
[09:58] <hamed> none                  1.3G  672K  1.3G   1% /dev
[09:58] <hamed> /dev/sr0              686M  686M     0 100% /cdrom
[09:58] <hamed> /dev/loop0            658M  658M     0 100% /rofs
[09:58] <hamed> none                  1.3G  556K  1.3G   1% /dev/shm
[09:58] <hamed> tmpfs                 1.3G   84K  1.3G   1% /tmp
[09:58] <hamed> none                  1.3G   96K  1.3G   1% /var/run
[09:58] <csenger41> sux: i think u installed 32bit version of ubuntu
[09:58] <FloodBot1> hamed: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:58] <csenger41> hamed: use pastebin
[09:59] <csenger41> lag: idk, maybe u should try asking it here later when some smarter ppl are here
[09:59] <sux> csenger41, but when I tried live-cd of 64 bit it still shows me the same result?
[10:00] <csenger41> sux: i think it isnt because of switchable graphics
[10:01] <csenger41> sux: try installing a 64bit Ubuntu, it should solve the problem
[10:01] <Pooky1> hi guys, I have little problem. When i start ubuntu there is error "Can't mount disk /tmp becouse serious error" i skip it and then it stop on checking screen ( - Stopping System ... - Starting bluetooth - Starting web server - Checking battery state ) i remove this disk bat i dont know where setup to don't mount it
[10:01] <sux> csenger41, hmmm.. Thanks.. let me go and install it would only take about 15 minutes.. let's see if solves the problem
[10:02] <ikonia> Pooky1: whoaaa, slow down there
[10:02] <tapout> how do i remove all video drivers for my ati card?
[10:02] <csenger41> sux: ok, bye good luck :)
[10:02] <Pooky1> ikonia: ok ok
[10:02] <ikonia> Pooky1: is /tmp on a disk that is a problem ?
[10:03] <csenger41> tapout: launch jockey and hit remove
[10:03] <Pooky1> ikonia: tmp should be on root disk, bat it seems it not
[10:03] <theadmin> Pooky1: More of an obvious question, is /tmp on the same device as /, I mean, you did not specify a separate mountpoint for it, right?
[10:03] <theadmin> Err...
[10:03] <ikonia> Pooky1: do you have an ubuntu CD you can boot from ?
[10:03] <theadmin> Well, I think I've been clear enough
[10:03] <ikonia> theadmin: crystal
[10:03] <Pooky1> ikonia: not right there bat i can do it if there is no another option
[10:04] <ikonia> Pooky1: we need to know the issue you are having with your disk, it's easier to do this from external media, such as a livecd
[10:04] <tapout> csenger41, the weird thing is, jockey says its' not enabled/installed.  I know the amd binary they gave me was hosed
[10:04] <theadmin> LiveCD, liveUSB, anything, not necessarily Ubuntu, by the way, though preferable, Pooky1
[10:05] <Pooky1> theadmin: i do not specifice any  another location for /tmp bat it seems its on the disk which i remove - i check fstab bat there is only one disk to mount
[10:05] <Pooky1> theadmin: i have access to console
[10:05] <theadmin> Pooky1: Hm, what *is* your fstab?
[10:05] <theadmin> Pooky1: Can you pastebin it?
[10:05] <Pooky1> i cant
[10:05] <ikonia> Pooky1: can you pastebin your fstab ?
[10:05] <conntrack> fs-tab
[10:05] <ikonia> conntrack: got anything useful to say ?
[10:05] <Pooky1> the pc which is fstab dont have access to network
[10:06] <tapout> recovery -> xorg low graphics mode -> ran the amd-uninstall.sh --force, ran jockey, enabled their driver, and rebooted... FIXED.  Yay.. thanks csenger41
[10:06] <csenger41> tapout: yw ^.^
[10:06] <csenger41> i have a question too guys
[10:06] <ikonia> Pooky1: could you copy the line that says /tmp in your fstab for us
[10:06] <csenger41> how can i adjust my monitor contrast and gamma?
[10:07] <csenger41> its a laptop
[10:07] <ikonia> csenger41: that's normally done at the hardware level
[10:07] <theadmin> Pooky1: Does fstab have a line saying "shm /dev/shm tmpfs nodev,nosuid 0 0"? It's the only thing that seems related to it in my fstab
[10:07] <ikonia> csenger41: I've never seen a laptop that can do that
[10:08] <csenger41> under Windows 7 it can be done with ATI Catalyst
[10:08] <ikonia> csenger41: if the linux drivers support it, I'd imagine the same is true then
[10:08] <Pooky1> oh
[10:08] <theadmin> Pooky1: Can't be sure that's what it is, though, with my 3.0 kernel things may be a bit different...
[10:09] <Pooky1> damit you right
[10:09] <paulus68> csenger41: these are 2 different OS and you can try to install the ATI drivers afterwards
[10:09] <csenger41> but on Ubuntu if I install the driver from jockey, it becomes slow as hell
[10:09] <Pooky1> i miss the line with /tmp
[10:09] <Pooky1> damit
[10:09] <ikonia> csenger41: that's just a limitation of the ati drivers.....the support for all cards is not great in linux
[10:10] <paulus68> ubuntu_: especially if you are running on 64bit
[10:10] <csenger41> but if ati driver is NOT installed, the performance is much better
[10:10] <paulus68> csenger41: especially if you run on 64 bit
[10:10] <theadmin> csenger41: You can use the "xgamma" tool for gamma adjustement via command-line, but I'm not sure about that other thing
[10:10] <joe-f3> is it possible to have one local IP point to another? (a LAN ip changed to something else, and I need to point basically 10.0.0.2 to 10.0.0.3)
[10:10] <ikonia> csenger41: that's not unusual for some cards
[10:10] <ikonia> Pooky1: 64bit has nothing to do with it
[10:10] <Pooky1> ok, i comment it and try reboot it
[10:10] <ikonia> Pooky1: darn it, not you, sorry
[10:11] <ikonia> joe-f3: could you explain it a bit better please.
[10:11] <paulus68> ikonia: you fell in the same trap lol
[10:11] <csenger41> its 32bit and an older ATI Radeon HD2600 card
[10:11] <ikonia> csenger41: possibly why the modern drivers support it poor
[10:12] <Pooky1> well now is there no error, bat still and on same :D can get to login screen from console manualy?
[10:13] <joe-f3> ikonia: i'm running membase, and it's no longer connecting as all of the node ip's have changed.. i basically need a resolv.conf type of thing but one ip to another..
[10:13] <joe-f3> ikonia: it's basically a quick hack so i can get my app up until couchbase can look at it
[10:14] <ikonia> joe-f3: just cheat it in the hostfile
[10:14] <ikonia> joe-f3: map the ip address to a hostname in the host file, then reference the machines by hostname rather than IP
[10:14] <csenger41> so any other software that can adjust contrast and gamma like catalyst?
[10:16] <tapout> pidgin is supposed to be at:  ~/.purple, but it's not.  Any idea where it would be ?
[10:17] <joe-f3> ikonia: i can't change the current bad ip that it's calling.. i'll google hostfile
[10:17] <theadmin> tapout: That's the normal configuration directory for it, it won't store configs elsewhere
[10:17] <ikonia> joe-f3: if you can't change the ip - then you can't do it
[10:17] <csenger41> well bye guys
[10:17] <csenger41> ill try installing catalyst from ati homepage
[10:19] <tapout> theadmin, ok thanks.  I see the problem :)
[10:20] <joe-f3> ikonia: i'm at least able to override the bad ip with a good dns entry for now.. :)
[10:20] <Chotaz> Hello everyone I have a general question, but might aswell ask here since the system I'm using is Ubuntu. We want to create a sort of Raido on our company, and we're searching for a way to do so, like creating a shared playlist, that everyone can independantly add songs to and have a computer reproducing it.
[10:20] <joe-f3> ikonia: can i create a local dns entry, that points to the correct ip?
[10:21] <ikonia> joe-f3: just use /etc/hosts
[10:22] <theadmin> Chotaz: Icecast?
[10:23] <JLuc> hello
[10:23] <Chotaz> theadmin: I'm gonna search for it.
[10:24] <JLuc> im on a  basic natty ubuntu freshly installed. What is the name of the file manager ?
[10:24] <theadmin> JLuc: Nautilus
[10:25] <JLuc> ok thanks. in what repertory is it ?
[10:25] <theadmin> JLuc: Uhm, I think it is in "main".
[10:25] <KIAaze> and if you meant folder:
[10:25] <JLuc> i got it ! in usr/bin
[10:25] <ikonia> JLuc: it's already installed
[10:26] <JLuc> i needed the adress for another program preferences
[10:26] <ComradeHaz`> Hi all. Running a live 11.04 and have just installed the lated util-linux package that appears to be available, but the version of fdisk packaged therein is out of date and contains a bug that causes me a problem. It is fixed in later versions. Is there upstream stuff, the equivalent of Debian's testing or Unstable that might contain a later version?
[10:26] <KIAaze> try the which command next time: "which nautilus" ;)
[10:27] <KIAaze> dpkg -L and apt-file also come in handy to find files from packages or vice-versa
[10:27] <JLuc> ok
[10:28] <tomodachi> ComradeHaz`: well fdisk is a command line tool with very few, if any dependencies. You can always download a newer "deb" extract the binary and use it from there i believe
[10:28] <Pooky1> Ok guys, ubuntu stuck on "Stopping anachronictic cron" and I can't run gdm manually any idea how deal with it?
[10:28] <JLuc> great !
[10:28] <tomodachi> ComradeHaz`: or just compile it from source
[10:28] <ComradeHaz`> tomodachi: yeah, I was looking for a version, but I don't actually know where to get it from
[10:28] <ikonia> Pooky1: what's happened to your machine ?
[10:29] <tomodachi> ComradeHaz`: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ should have it, check there
[10:29] <Pooky1> ikonia: many things...bat i just move it on collage and it broken
[10:29] <tomodachi> ComradeHaz`: maybe you can use cfdisk , or parted or gparted instead though?
[10:29] <Pooky1> ikonia: day before it works just fine
[10:30] <ikonia> Pooky1: do you get any errors/warnings on boot up ?
[10:30] <ehw>  /win 2
[10:30] <ehw> urgh
[10:30] <ComradeHaz`> hmm, not sure tomodachi, valid point. How does cfdisk differ?
[10:30] <Pooky1> ikonia: nothing, just normal boot and then it stuck on this last line
[10:31] <tomodachi> ComradeHaz`: its adifferent tool for partitioning a bit more "graphgical" than fdisk
[10:31] <ikonia> Pooky1: failing to start cron isn't a massive problem,
[10:31] <Pooky1> i dont think it  fail on it
[10:31] <Pooky1> it just stop on it
[10:31] <tapout> how do you guys organize your photos on ubuntu?  I have so many photos and i want to encrypt SOME of them :)
[10:31] <Pooky1> before it stuck on "battery checking"
[10:31] <Pooky1> so i reainstall gnome-power-manager
[10:31] <Pooky1> and now it stuck on this
[10:32] <ikonia> why do you re-install things ?
[10:32] <ikonia> Pooky1: something must have happened to this machine for /tmp to be removed from fstab and packages needing to be re-installed
[10:33] <KIAaze> tapout: encrypt how? like with ecryptfs? or password protected?
[10:33] <tapout> either/or
[10:34] <tapout> was hoping something was integrated with it
[10:34] <KIAaze> ecryptfs-mount-private is the easiest way to get an encrypted Private dir I think
[10:34] <Pooky1> ikonia: yes, something happend bat i dont have idea what. Now i remove one disk which make boot error and now i use only the "root" disk to boot. I know there is problem bat i just want solve it
[10:34] <KIAaze> then just place the pictures you want to encrypt in there
[10:34] <KIAaze> but by default, it gets mounted when you log in, so anybody using your account will see them
[10:34] <pamwe_chete> is it possible to have a wm in ubuntu in kiosk mode, with access to firefox only, and with firefox restricted to one website?
[10:34] <ikonia> Pooky1: because you don't know what's happened and why, and you've changing the disk config, it may be better to backup your data and re-install
[10:34] <KIAaze> otherwise as a software, shotwell is quite good
[10:35] <KIAaze> but it's also the only one I tried  since it's the default one on ubuntu
[10:35] <ComradeHaz`> gah, tomodachi, cfdisk cotains the same bug.
[10:35] <pamwe_chete> shotwell is rubbish because it doesn't convert (eg jpg to png) and doesn't resize photos
[10:35] <KIAaze> for password protected dirs, I'm not quite sure
[10:35] <KIAaze> but I suppose it should be possible with ecryptfs too somehow
[10:36] <Pooky1> ikonia: it's last solution and i don't have nothing there to backup it on. I was glad when i find screwdriver... what about some log? it should say what went wrong
[10:36] <KIAaze> pamwe_chete: then what is better? :)
[10:36] <tapout> pamwe_chete, what else is there?  shotwell is highly rated with the reviews
[10:36] <ikonia> Pooky1: it won't, and you'll spend more time chasing something that may/may not have happened.
[10:37] <ikonia> Pooky1: use the second disk you had to backup to
[10:37] <Pooky1> ikonia: my second disk is full
[10:37] <pamwe_chete> KIAaze: i guess i'm hoping the devs improve shotwell, as it's a default app
[10:37] <pamwe_chete> i'm not sure what there is to replace it
[10:37] <ikonia> Pooky1: what data do you currently have on the machine ?
[10:37] <Pooky1> ikonia: and i have really tuned up ubuntu for work so i really wan't setting everythink again
[10:38] <AFD> I am trying to add a password prompt before a .sh script can be run. Can someone tell me how to do this please?
[10:38] <tapout> have you guys tried picasa?  someone mentioned that
[10:38] <Pooky1> ikonia: on another movies, series programs, backups
[10:38] <ikonia> Pooky1: but your machine is a mess, it's had serious errors (devices dissapearing from fstab) and now your randomly installing packages, I'd strongly suggest re-installing the OS after a data backup
[10:39] <Pooky1> ikonia: we meaby missunderstanding on fstab nothing dissaper i remove this disk i just miss line on fstab which mount this disk when i configure it
[10:39] <avelldiroll> pamwe_chete: shotwell aim more at being a collection manager than an image editor, the features you are asking for are those af an image editor
[10:39] <ikonia> Pooky1: I see, the machine is till in a serious mess though.
[10:39] <avelldiroll> *aims
[10:40] <KIAaze> AFD: http://pastebin.com/yGjVb2cw about as unsecure as possible ^^
[10:40] <KIAaze> but it works
[10:40] <tapout> i wish i could get a local dropbox running, where all the files are hosted locally.  I know about rsync and that, but where it's integrated right into win7/ubuntu and you don't have to do anything :)
[10:40] <pamwe_chete> avelldiroll: then imagemagick should be installed by default
[10:40] <AFD> KIAaze: thank you!
[10:40] <pamwe_chete> for a desktop
[10:40] <paulus68> Pooky1: the best thing is to do a backup and do a fresh installation
[10:41] <KIAaze> the password is in clear text in the script, so it's pretty worthless as a security measure
[10:41] <AFD> KIAaze:  I understand but for this purpose I think that is safe enough, it is more so that the script is never run by accident
[10:41] <Pooky1> ikonia you are right, bat i really can't do it now, i just need to keep it alive for couple days when next ubuntu realease come out i will make fresh install, bat now i really need to keep it work
[10:41] <theadmin> AFD: Why not just have a "Are you sure?" prompt?
[10:41] <KIAaze> you could try doing something with md5 and sh1
[10:42] <KIAaze> sha1*
[10:42] <tapout> afd, couldn't you do a sudoers account where it can only run 1 script and then they have to sudo to do it?  something like that
[10:42] <ikonia> Pooky1: then deal with it in a couple of days
[10:42] <KIAaze> but not sure how to do it directly without some more trying
[10:42] <tapout> i think sudo lets you do what you're trying, you can setup an account to run certain scripts, and then to run them, they have to sudo (i think this works)... i don't think sudo is only for root stuff
[10:43] <avelldiroll> pamwe_chete: if you know how to use imagemagick, you know how to use the command line, so you know how to use apt-get
[10:43] <Pooky1> ikonia thanks for help i will deal with it
[10:43] <KIAaze> (and yeah, being a script, if it's readable, there is not much point in password-protecting it, unless it's some kind of binary script like those game installers)
[10:43] <AFD> It's something my boss wants rolling out ASAP (which is always the case) but we may revisit it later. I knew about the sudo option for just running that one file but it's more of a double-check (I like the idea of a "Are you sure" prompt btw)
[10:43] <pamwe_chete>  avelldiroll: the average user wants tobe able to edit photos out of the box
[10:44] <theadmin> KIAaze: Rather simple, actually -- read x ; mkfifo tmp ; echo $x > tmp ; md5=$(md5sum tmp|awk '{print $2;}') ; if [ $md5 == "hash_of_needed_password" ] ...
[10:44] <AFD> theadmin: I'm copying that for future use ;)
[10:44] <KIAaze> me too :)
[10:44] <KIAaze> thx
[10:45] <tapout> is there a dropbox alternative that is *secure*?  where no matter what, they can't see your data/files?
[10:45] <tapout> i know dropbox says they can't, but it's been proven that they can
[10:45] <KIAaze> spideroak!
[10:45] <theadmin> tapout: What KIAaze said.
[10:45] <avelldiroll> pamwe_chete: do you know anyone that keeps a system "out of the box", or we don't have the same definition of the "average user"
[10:45] <KIAaze> spideroak also allows you to have multiple syncs
[10:45] <theadmin> tapout: spideroak does CLIENT-side encryption, soo...
[10:46] <theadmin> tapout: Or, honestly, just put your stuff in a TrueCrypt container on the dropbox :P
[10:46] <avelldiroll> pamwe_chete: anyway, this was discussed at length when gimp was removed from the livecd to get more room
[10:47] <paulus68> theadmin: and just pray that you don't loose your passphrase ;)
[10:47] <avelldiroll> pamwe_chete: the fact is, translations are more important than image editing out of the box
[10:48] <theadmin> paulus68: Well, heh, true enough
[10:48] <JLuc> what is the shortcut to switch screen with keyboard ?
[10:49] <tomodachi> JLuc: switch desktop screen you mean+ ctrl+alt left (or right)
[10:49] <Nemie> ctrl+alt+ arrows
[10:49] <JLuc> yes super !
[10:49] <tomodachi> JLuc: you can also use "windows button + s" for an overview of desktops in unity
[10:49] <theadmin> tomodachi: We have no windows button. We have the Super key.
[10:50] <JLuc> great tomodachi
[10:50] <tomodachi> theadmin: is that what its called? (i have a macbook but didnt think i could call it the command key, wich it is for me)
[10:51] <theadmin> tomodachi: Well, in Linux that key is called "Super_L" for the left one and "Super_R" for the right one, according to xmodmap
[10:52] <tomodachi> theadmin: ok thanks for the input, thats good to know
[10:52] <Fargh> hi all
[10:53] <Fargh> anyone can help me with setting up routing for vpn pptp ?
[10:53] <Fargh> vpn is working, only issue is that all traffic is chunneled trough the VPN.
[10:53] <theadmin> Fargh: Well, like what? Do you connect to the internet with pptp? If so, just "sudo route add default dev ppp0"
[10:54] <sobersabre> hi.
[10:54] <JLuc> when cmaking a programm, the dest rep should be /usr/bin shouldn it ?
[10:54] <Fargh> the theadmin, i want to avoit that all traffic goes trough the vpn
[10:54] <theadmin> Fargh: Ah... More complicated then
[10:54] <p1oooop> hello sobersabre
[10:54] <JLuc> or whatever
[10:54] <dandandrums> hello soersabre and p1oooop
[10:54] <p1oooop> odam, I need to clear some files
[10:55] <sobersabre> I have messed up the partition table. I thought need to reinstall grub. I booted into the live CD, chrooted into the root partition, mount -a, mounted /proc, sys, etc. and ran: update-grub.
[10:55] <p1oooop> hay dandandrums
[10:55] <JLuc> or /opt
[10:55] <sobersabre> After the reboot I am still getting grub rescue> prompt.
[10:55] <sobersabre> I think I didn't do what I thought I did.
[10:55] <dandandrums> sobersabre, i had the same issue once upon a time
[10:55] <JLuc> or /usr/local
[10:56] <p1oooop> hmmm
[10:56] <sobersabre> so what do I need to run to re-install the grub boot manager properly with this new grub2 ?
[10:56] <dandandrums> i took the affected harddrive, put it in a usb disk caddy, connected that to a ubuntu machine, took all the files i could and re-installed
[10:56] <wildbat> sobersabre: you need to reinstall grub2
[10:56] <sobersabre> do I edit any /etc files ?
[10:56] <sobersabre> wildbat: how do I reinstall grub2 ? dpkg-reinstall ?
[10:56] <sobersabre> sorry, aptitude reinstall ?!
[10:57] <wildbat> !grub | sobersabre: chroot again and do grub-install
[10:57] <sobersabre> sounds .... inherently incorrect: the app is already installed. I only need to install something into MBR.
[10:57] <sobersabre> Oh, this is what I need!
[10:57] <sobersabre> thanks.
[10:57] <wildbat> or follow the links for other method.'
[10:57] <Pooky5> It works :)))) thanks ikonia and theadmin :)))
[10:58] <p1oooop> I need to learn some sql
[10:59] <wildbat> p1oooop: there is #mysql channel.and you should read the doc online.
[10:59] <theadmin> wildbat: Well, mysql is not exactly sql
[10:59] <dandandrums> hi guys, i'm using the most up to date ubuntu 11.10 version but having issues with lightdm and instead using gdm, it has something to do with not having appropiate permissions, can anyone point me in the right direction for help?
[11:00] <jrib> dandandrums: just state your issue with details
[11:00] <theadmin> 11.10 is not out yet, jrib
[11:00] <theadmin> !ubuntu+1 | dandandrums
[11:00] <jrib> dandandrums: oh right.  See theadmin
[11:00] <dandandrums> ubottu: thanks, will head into #ubuntu+1
[11:01] <sobersabre> ok, I'm up!
[11:01] <sobersabre> thanks, wildbat
[11:01] <KIAaze> theadmin: just concerning the password protected script mentioned earlier: had to make some changes to get it to work: http://paste2.org/p/1672442
[11:02] <KIAaze> (yep, it's not cleaned up)
[11:02] <new-ubuntu-user> hi guys
[11:02] <new-ubuntu-user> i need some help here
[11:03] <new-ubuntu-user> does anyone know how to install vodafone mobile connect modem on ubuntu 11.04?
[11:03] <Diamondcite> Is that exactly what it's called?
[11:04] <new-ubuntu-user> Vodafone Mobile Connect (VMC)
[11:04] <new-ubuntu-user> yes
[11:05] <theadmin> KIAaze: Ah, well, the basic idea was there anyway
[11:05] <Diamondcite> I have to go, but try thos for further reading: http://www.greenhughes.com/content/vodafone-mobile-connect-ubuntu-netbooks
[11:06] <paulus68> new-ubuntu-user:  try this http://www.randombugs.com/linux/install-vodafone-mobile-connect-linux.html
[11:06] <wildbat> KIAaze: echo will ADD a newline to so ~ the hash won't match
[11:06] <theadmin> wildbat: Ah, true enough. KIAaze, use echo -n there
[11:07] <KIAaze> well, it did work, but yes forgot the -n
[11:07] <wildbat> or md5sum <<< $x
[11:07] <KIAaze> <<< ?
[11:08] <KIAaze> interestinmg didn't know the <<< trick. :)
[11:08] <wildbat> redirect input with string
[11:09] <sdperez79> how do i install a bz2 app?
[11:10] <theadmin> sdperez79: It's an archive, extract it, there should be a file called "INSTALL" or "README" inside, normally.
[11:11] <sdperez79> its a exe file
[11:12] <theadmin> sdperez79: You make no sense. exes don't run in Linux.
[11:12] <sdperez79> i am new and i know exe dont run in linux but thats what i get when i extrac
[11:13] <auronandace> !software | sdperez79
[11:13] <theadmin> sdperez79: Then, this is not for Linux, and you should throw it away
[11:13] <LjL> sdperez79: ok, where did you get that file from and what is it
[11:13] <sdperez79> the file is cligrab-3.1.0.2.bz2
[11:13] <sdperez79> http://clipgrab.de/en
[11:13] <auronandace> !find clipgrab | sdperez79
[11:13] <LjL> sdperez79: that page says "for Windows"...
[11:14] <sdperez79> there is a linux version
[11:14] <LjL> sdperez79: so get the Linux version. which does *not* contain an .exe file, i've just tried it.
[11:14] <Diamondcite> sdperez79: Use the 'file' command on the .exe if it says it's windows, won't work as good
[11:15] <Diamondcite> sdperez79: For example: file clipgrab.exe
[11:16] <Diamondcite> patcher.exe: PE32 executable (GUI) Intel 80386, for MS Windows     <---- windows app output
[11:16] <sdperez79> my file is clipgrab-3.1.0.2.bz2
[11:16] <theadmin> sdperez79: Right, it does not contain any exes.
[11:16] <LjL> sdperez79: type "bunzip2 clipgrab-3.1.0.2" to extract it.
[11:16] <LjL> sdperez79: type "bunzip2 clipgrab-3.1.0.2.bz" to extract it.
[11:16] <LjL> gah
[11:17] <theadmin> sdperez79: It just contains a file, which apparently is a binary. Extract it, make it executable, move it to /usr/local/bin or another folder in your $PATH
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> i think the installer for clipgrab is a linux thing, but the program itself is for win
[11:19] <LjL> he's gone anyway
[11:19] <salvatore> hi there i am trying to install the ruby 1,9.2 from terminal with this script sudo apt-get install ruby1.9.1. But i get ruby 1.8...why? any suggestion?
[11:20] <auronandace> !find ruby | salvatore
[11:20] <LjL> !info ruby1.9.1
[11:21] <LjL> salvatore: is that on Natty?
[11:21] <salvatore> yes
[11:21] <LjL> salvatore: how do you know you're getting ruby 1.8?
[11:22] <salvatore> ruby --version
[11:22] <LjL> salvatore: run ruby1.9.1 --version instead
[11:22] <ikonia> which ruby
[11:23] <ikonia> "which ruby"
[11:23] <salvatore> ok
[11:24] <salvatore> ok if i write ur script what version will i be using?
[11:25] <LjL> salvatore: scripts will use ruby 1.8 by default. i guess there must be a good reason for that. you must run them explicitly with ruby1.9.1, or perhaps (though i doubt it) you can "sudo update-alternatives --config ruby" to change the default
[11:26] <auronandace> salvatore: which is a terminal command, not a script
[11:27] <salvatore> if i write this command sudo update-alternatives --config ruby response is a message errore: no alternative for ruby
[11:27] <ljsoftnet> salvatore if u run that command ubuntu will install whats in the repositories
[11:28] <LjL> salvatore: ok, as i said i was doubting that would work. just run your scripts with ruby1.9.1 when you need to use that version
[11:29] <salvatore> so now i got 2 versions installed on my computer? 1.8 and 1.9.1?
[11:29] <LjL> salvatore: that's correct
[11:29] <LjL> salvatore: and again, i'm betting there is a good reason why 1.8 is the one being used by default. 1.9.1 probably breaks older scripts.
[11:29] <salvatore> ok thanks
[11:30] <xoveruk1> what are good websites for wireless hardware reviews?
[11:30] <ikonia> xoveruk1: offtopic for this channel
[11:31] <LjL> xoveruk1: try asking ##hardware or #wireless
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> xoveruk1: wrong channel, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:34] <JLuc> i have compiled a programm (scribus svn). after make install, it doesnt appear in menus. How do i launch it ?
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> JLuc: rty Alt-F2
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> JLuc: try Alt-F2
[11:35] <JLuc> ok
[11:35] <ikonia> JLuc: you have to run it from a command line interface
[11:35] <JLuc> its a graphic programm, not a command line one
[11:35] <LjL> JLuc: that's what you happens when you compile stuff instead of getting it from the repositories :)(
[11:36] <ikonia> JLuc: but it needs to be launched from a command line
[11:36] <JLuc> ok
[11:36] <JLuc> there must be a way for it to appear in menus ?
[11:36] <LjL> JLuc: sure, you can add it, but i'm not sure how anymore
[11:37] <ahhughez> yo, can anyone explain/help me get my apple bluetooth keyboard working... I can run 'hcitool scan' and it finds the keyboard and gives me the mac address for it. However, when I exec sudo bluez-test-device trusted THE_MAC_ADDRESS  I get the following... .....'dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.bluez.Error.DoesNotExist: Does Not Exist' any ideas?
[11:38] <LjL> JLuc: you can try with Alacarte, but i'm not sure that's the correct tool anymore, with Unity and all the new stuff...
[11:38] <theadmin> ahhughez: Is the bluez daemon, if there's such a thing at all, running?
[11:38] <theadmin> ahhughez: Because, I got a similar thing due to a stopped daemon once
[11:39] <JLuc> ok. i un-activated unity so.
[11:40] <sdperez79> can someone plz tell me how to download any flv video from the net?on ubuntu
[11:41] <tapout> when i have 4 drives, i delete something on one of the drives, it doesn't hit the trash bin for whatever reason... why is that
[11:42] <theadmin> sdperez79: It depends on the site, there are many services online for that, too.
[11:43] <sdperez79> youtube,and myspace for  start
[11:43] <theadmin> sdperez79: savefrom.net for instance
[11:43] <theadmin> sdperez79: Myspace? Someone still uses that? wow.
[11:43] <Chotaz> theadmin: earlier today you suggested icecast for shared playlist and having a radio inside our company, how could we have multiple computers compiling 1 playlist?
[11:43] <dean> Hi I was wondering how I can get my programs to pick up my external dvd drive?
[11:44] <theadmin> Chotaz: Hm, I dunno, a public FTP server of some sort or... idk
[11:44] <JLuc> thanks a lot for all your help :-)
[11:47] <dean> Or could someone tell me how to rip my dvd to make an iso file?
[11:47] <theadmin> dean: dd if=/dev/sr0 of=whatever.iso
[11:48] <dean> theadmin, It is a external dvd drive?
[11:50] <alexandh> hi there
[11:50] <alexandh> i have a massive problem with mdraid on ubuntu-server 10.04 LTS
[11:50] <alx_> hi all
[11:51] <alexandh> problem is that after software update, initramfs cannot find mdraid module and than cannot find root
[11:51] <alx_> is it possible to have i386 and x86 libraries and binaries installed ?
[11:51] <theadmin> alx_: Um, that's the same thing
[11:51] <alx_> need to compile qt4 32 bit under x86_64 ...
[11:51] <theadmin> alx_: Ah
[11:51] <alx_> forgot x86_64 :)
[11:51] <theadmin> alx_: Well, I think the package is ia32-libs or something
[11:51] <alexandh> is it possible to change grub.conf to force boot from sda1?
[11:52] <ikonia> alexandh: grub boots where ever your kernel is
[11:52] <ikonia> alexandh: if you point it at a kernel on /dev/sda1 it will boot /dev/sda1
[11:52] <alexandh> yes, but its very tricky as it drops imediatly to busybox
[11:52] <Naeblis> err..hi! Can anyone please help me fix my sound issue? This is the alsa-project report: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=927773d357d23428919915a5d36b902b4f1a54e6
[11:52] <ikonia> alexandh: then you've not pointed it correctly
[11:52] <alx_> theadmin, yes... but what about qt4-dev-tools (example) ... apt-get install qt4-dev-tools:i386 want to remove qt4-dev-tools (x86_64 version)
[11:53] <alx_> which is fine, as they install same files...
[11:53] <alx_> don't know :(
[11:53] <alexandh> maybe. can you tell me what i shoud put in grub.conf?
[11:53] <alexandh> i dont know how to tell in grub directly
[11:53] <ikonia> alexandh: I don't have a grub2 machine to hand to work it through with you
[11:54] <alexandh> ok i see. grub2 is really a tricky thing
[11:54] <ikonia> the ubuntu has it configured, it's a monster
[11:54] <alexandh> how can it come that mdraid module cannot be found?
[11:54] <ikonia> alexandh: what makes you think it can't be found,
[11:55] <alexandh> in the first place it showed: cannot load modules... gave up waiting for root device
[11:55] <tapout> if you delete stuff as root in nautilus, where does it go?  Trash doesn't show anything, throws an error
[11:56] <theadmin> tapout: It goes poof.
[11:56] <theadmin> tapout: Trash is a gvfs thing, so it will only work if nautilus runs as the same user as you're running GNOME as
[11:56] <Naeblis> the audio was gone after I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras.
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> alexandh: is dmraid correctly installed? type apt-cache policy dmraid
[11:58] <tapout> theadmin, oh neat, thanks
[12:01] <g00fy> Just one question: I'm currently downloading v11.04 and want to find the checksum for the ISO file. but where are they???
[12:01] <Pici> !hashes | g00fy
[12:01] <g00fy> thx  :-*
[12:02] <Ajsh> where I get a good free ftp host?
[12:02] <theadmin> Ajsh: Not on-topic here.
[12:02] <Ajsh> [theadmin]: off-topic, you mean?
[12:02] <adam__> hey! Im using Ubuntu Server and trying to write a script to add a new user from a MySQL Database Server. i have the $USER and $PASS variables set up and taken from MySQL and useradd set up, how can i now set the server user's password as $PASS?
[12:02] <theadmin> Ajsh: So it is.
[12:03] <adam__> without admin input?
[12:03] <jrib> adam__: use useradd with -p and perl's crypt function.  Google "crypt perl useradd" if you want examples
[12:04] <adam__> so it would be useradd -p $PASS -d /home/$USER $USER ?
[12:04] <adam__> jrib: :D
[12:05] <adam__> since that had one way encryption i wasnt sure if i could use it
[12:05] <jrib> adam__: no, your example is not correct
[12:06] <jrib> adam__: by the way, you probably don't want users' login shells to be sh
[12:06] <binni> I'm configuring pidgin input settings for audio and I'm pretty sure I should either choose ALSA>USB Audio or PulseAudio>Webcam C310 Anal...   which one should I choose? (Ubuntu 11.10)
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> binni: ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:07] <adam__> jrib: i have the users chrooted with no ssh access, now im trying to add a user with a pre-existing password variable(from mysql), i want it to be user generated
[12:08] <jrib> adam__: what is your question?
[12:08] <adam__> *be a user generated password with no human input
[12:08] <adam__> users register on a site
[12:08] <adam__> site stores info on mysql
[12:08] <binni> MonkeyDust: I think the setting and logic of it looks the same in both 11.04 and 11.10, not sure though.
[12:08] <jrib> adam__: I know what you are trying to do.  But I told you how to do it above.  What aren't you sure about?
[12:09] <adam__> jrib: will the perl encrypt allow a variable to be set as the password, did a quick google and it shows it as a password generator?
[12:09] <jrib> adam__: sure.
[12:12] <jrib> adam__: crypt() just returns a hash of your password.  This is what usermod -p expects
[12:13] <krishnan>  I use ubuntu 10.04 & when Im connected to wi-fi and try connecting to my dongle the connection fails. however if I try the same when Im not connected to a wi-fi or in a new place with a different wi-fi then dongle easily connects. Why is this?
[12:16] <orated> Hello! Can this be command altered somehow to allow backup in parts of 7GB each - sudo tar cvpzf /backup/backup.tar.bz2 --exclude=/backup --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tar.bz2 --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys / ?
[12:17] <orated> using | split -b etc ?
[12:17] <tapout> orated, you're going to kill yourself once you find out about rsnapshot :)
[12:17] <tapout> i used to backup like that, rsnapshot is the way now :)
[12:18] <wxf> hi,
[12:18] <wxf> everyone
[12:18] <JollyJester> Hello
[12:19] <orated> tapout: Can it take backups in parts?
[12:19] <jasondev> my trackpad for my laptop isnt working how do i fix this. this is my first time using ubuntu and I am a noob
[12:19] <wxf> yes,it can.
[12:22] <tapout> orated, it uses rsync and does backups over time.  It efficientlly stores your backups so you don't have to worry at all.  It's like git+rsync all in one
[12:23] <tapout> you setup hourly/daily/weekly/monthly, and you can go back to a week ago from today, to see what the files were...
[12:23] <orated> tapout: Ok, but atm I want to take immediate backup and want it in parts basically.
[12:23] <tapout> trust me, you should check it out before you do that
[12:24] <tapout> rsnapshotdoes it so efficiently and easily, you can even do your db backups
[12:24] <orated> I'm out of space, do not have backup HDD.. crossovercables for rsync over it won't work since the other system is also out of space
[12:24] <orated> ok
[12:25] <tapout> without space, you'll be hard pressed anyways..   look into rsnapshot tho
[12:26] <orated> tapout: Any backup obviously requires equivalent space but rsnapshot cannot do compression nor parts, it ill not be of any usse to me. Nevertheless, I'll find about it.. Do you think split flag can be added in above command I typed?
[12:26] <orated> if rsnapshot*
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:27] <theadmin> orated: As for the above command, remove -f and the filename, and pass it to |split, making it read from stdin and... Yeah, that's about it
[12:27] <JollyJester> Hi
[12:28] <orated> theadmin: stdin?
[12:29] <theadmin> orated: Well, yes
[12:29] <dddbmt> Hi guys. I've just formatted a USB drive on 16GB, I'm trying to copy a folder onto the drive. It fails with an error "Error splicing file: File too large". It's a Mac .dmg file.
[12:29] <theadmin> dddbmt: Is the file bigger than 3.8GB or so?
[12:30] <dddbmt> theadmin, it
[12:30] <dddbmt> it's 5.6gb
[12:30] <theadmin> dddbmt: There's your problem. Your flash drive is FAT32, right?
[12:30] <dddbmt> correct
[12:30] <theadmin> dddbmt: It has a 3.8GB filesize limit
[12:30] <theadmin> dddbmt: Reformat it to something else or split the file to several pieces
[12:31] <theadmin> dddbmt: Or maybe compressing it would help
[12:32] <jamil_1> Hi all, sound is giving me problems. If I do sudo alsa force-reload and manually select the alsa backend and the device in vlc then sound work for vlc only
[12:32] <orated> theadmin: Like this - sudo tar cvpz --exclude=/backup --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tar.bz2 --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys / | | split -b 100m – /backup/backup.tar.bz2 ?
[12:32] <jamil_1> And I have to do this after every restart
[12:33] <ubuntu_> słit
[12:33] <dddbmt> theadmin, would ext2 or ext4 be of better use for me?
[12:33] <ubuntu_> sireeeeemabgf
[12:33] <ubuntu_> bgf mj n n]\[}|
[12:33] <ubuntu_> rlfudhjdfytbgh
[12:33] <ubuntu_> LOOOL
[12:33] <theadmin> dddbmt: I think ext2 is better for flash drives... But note you can't read extX filesystems without additional drivers in Windows
[12:33] <ubuntu_> xD
[12:33] <lolita> \
[12:33] <theadmin> ubuntu_: Stop that.
[12:34] <ubuntu_> h pijejkjmyifk
[12:34] <ubuntu_> 7ffiofifi[\
[12:34] <lolita> siema
[12:34] <ubuntu_> 97f8
[12:34] <ubuntu_>  
[12:34] <ubuntu_> rt
[12:34] <ubuntu_> re
[12:34] <FloodBot1> ubuntu_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:34] <ubuntu_> e
[12:34] <ubuntu_> w
[12:34] <lolita> co tam?\
[12:34] <lolita> :D:D:D
[12:34] <lolita> ale jara hahaha
[12:34] <lolita> dupaaa
[12:34] <FloodBot1> lolita: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:34] <lolita> :):)
[12:35] <ubuntu_> frugo.
[12:35] <lolita> love frugo <3
[12:35] <ubuntu_> frugo spadówa!
[12:35] <lolita> nie
[12:35] <___MAX> lolita: use ubuntu-egypt if it is exist or stop flooding
[12:36] <orated> theadmin: Am I right about the change in the command?
[12:36] <theadmin> orated: I think so, I don't have a running Linux to experiment on right now
[12:36] <Naeblis> I've got no sound in Ubuntu, and I've tried most stuff in the comprehensive guide. :(
[12:36] <KamZou> Hello, is there a LEASES sharing mechanism between hosts (Master and slave) in a DHCP-Failover configuration ?
[12:36] <Naeblis> Can anyone help me, please?
[12:38] <paulus68> !patience| Naeblis
[12:38] <Naeblis> >_>
[12:39] <Naeblis> sorry about that.
[12:39] <orated> theadmin: I'm not able to make things out properly but - http://pastebin.com/GgSbAih4 ...
[12:39] <iridium> lol
[12:39] <theadmin> orated: I'm not sure how to make split read from stdin... Is there a channel for coreutils?
[12:41] <paulus68> KamZou: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man5/dhcpd.conf.5.html might be of any hrlp
[12:41] <paulus68> theadmin: *help
[12:41] <Pici> orated, theadmin: if its anything like the rest of coreutils, then it should allow you to use '-' to refer to stdin.
[12:41] <paulus68> theadmin: sorry bout that
[12:42] <theadmin> paulus68: Indeed it should, which is why the output it gave is weird
[12:42] <orated> I'm not sure If I did it right
[12:42] <paulus68> KamZou: or this one http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-267974.html
[12:43] <Quantum_Ion> How do you make compiz rotate on Ubuntu Linux, what are the commands ?
[12:43] <theadmin> Quantum_Ion: Just use CCSM
[12:44] <Quantum_Ion> theadmin, I think it is control alt left mouse click
[12:44] <Quantum_Ion> theadmin, How do i install CCSM
[12:45] <rkhshm> i just bought a new HD as my old one was dieing.. i connected the new 500GB HD to the mobo and plugged in my USB with 11.04 on it and it says 'BOOT ERROR"
[12:45] <rkhshm> no matter what I try i'm unable to figure it out.
[12:45] <rkhshm> any ideas?
[12:45] <iceroot> rkhshm: the hdd or the usb-drive is reprting the error?
[12:46] <theadmin> Quantum_Ion: apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[12:46] <Quantum_Ion> theadmin, thanks
[12:46] <rkhshm> iceroot: i cant say that..because the moment after BIOS loads i get that error.. But I suspect that HD is the issue because i tried the same USB on my laptop with USB boot turned on.. And it booted fine.
[12:47] <iceroot> rkhshm: is it a grub error? or a bios-error?
[12:47] <mao> what is linux's hibernate
[12:47] <theadmin> mao: Um, "hibernate".
[12:48] <rkhshm> looks like its a bios-error
[12:48] <theadmin> mao: It won't work if you have no swapspace, though
[12:48] <jasondev> hello my trackpad on my laptop is not working
[12:48] <theadmin> rkhshm: Probably GRUB was on your old HDD
[12:48] <jasondev> this is my first time using ubuntu
[12:48] <jasondev> please help
[12:48] <rkhshm> theadmin: the old HDD was removed completely
[12:48] <rkhshm> i think the BIOS needs to be told about the new HD?
[12:49] <rkhshm> something like that perhaps?
[12:49] <theadmin> rkhshm: Yes, and now you can't find a bootloader and it doesn't boot
[12:49] <theadmin> rkhshm: Where "you" is your BIOS/EFI
[12:49] <rkhshm> theadmin: as in?
[12:50] <theadmin> rkhshm: Well, you need not only the OS, but also a bootloader to boot it
[12:50] <jasondev> can anyone help me with this please?
[12:50] <rkhshm> theadmin:  i know that.. so what can be done
[12:50] <Teh_Lemon> anyone encountered a NO THEME mode?
[12:50] <Teh_Lemon> in natty
[12:50] <Teh_Lemon> you use standard theme and suddenly it crashes and goes to notheme mode
[12:51] <theadmin> rkhshm: Reinstall the bootloader
[12:51] <theadmin> !grub | rkhshm, see that last link
[12:51] <paulus68> Jasondev what brand of laptop are you using?
[12:51] <theadmin> Err, the first one, rather
[12:51] <theadmin> rkhshm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - this is what you want
[12:52] <mao> theadmin: are you the administrite ^O^.And what about suspend
[12:52] <theadmin> mao: I'm not an admin here, and suspend is still suspend.
[12:52] <theadmin> mao: I don't quite understand your questions.
[12:53]  * JLuc has just added a new entry in the ubuntu applications menu, using 'alacarte'
[12:53] <paulus68> jasondev what brand of laptop are you using?
[12:54] <salvatore> hi anybody knows how to refresh ip adress without reseting wifi router?
[12:54] <tusharkumar> Help me with registering on IRC
[12:54] <theadmin> !register | tusharkumar
[12:55] <JLuc> i have compiled and installed scribus svn to /usl/loca/scribussvn, and it runs fine, but i would like to move it to /home/jluc/bin : is it ok if i just move the files and repertory ?
[12:56] <mao> theadmin: when i suspend my ubuntu,then i can reboot it in 2s.how does it work.
[12:56] <theadmin> JLuc: First, please speak freaking ENGLISH, there are no such words as "repertory", it's hard for us to understand you when you use your own, made-up terms. Secondly, no, it's not gonna work that way, you have to reinstall appropriately.
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> mao: you network connection may be lost after waking up from suspension
[12:57] <JLuc> ok sorry for repertory, 'directory' is better ?
[12:57] <theadmin> JLuc: Yeah, that is at least a word
[12:57] <JLuc> arf :-D
[12:57] <JLuc> should i uninstall the programm first ?
[12:57] <mao> MonkeyDust: um,yes
[12:58] <theadmin> JLuc: I guess so, well...
[12:58] <theadmin> JLuc: I see no point installing only for one user
[12:58] <theadmin> JLuc: This is Linux, after all.
[12:58] <JLuc> i dont get your remark... i did make then make-install
[12:58] <JLuc> now maybe i got to do make uninstall ?
[12:59] <JLuc> i dont want to leave bits of links between the compiled file and the system
[13:01] <JLuc> i dont want the system to become full of  previously installed programs that are not there anymore
[13:01] <salvatore> hello anybody knows how i change my ip adress? without reseting router if possible
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> JLuc: you can remove those with autoremove
[13:02] <jamil_1> Hi all, sound is giving me problems. If I do sudo alsa force-reload and manually select the alsa backend and the device in vlc then sound work for vlc only
[13:03] <JLuc> it was not installed using apt monkeydust, since i compiled it locally
[13:03] <mao> salvatore: ifconfig?
[13:03] <salvatore> just ifconfig?
[13:04] <root__> hello
[13:04] <cvam> In natty I've installed kernel 2.6.38 thru update manager. I tried update-grub menu.lst has entry for newer version kernel. but boot menu shows only older version.how to make newer version in boot menu
[13:05] <root__> grrrrrrrrrrrrr
[13:05] <root__> grrrrrrrrrrrr
[13:05] <mao> salvatore: ifconfing interface netmask yournetmask
[13:05] <mao> salvatore: you can man ifconfig
[13:05] <salvatore> will it work with megavideo?
[13:06] <Stanley00> cvam: grub2 doesnt use menu.lst anymore...
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> cvam: grub2 uses menu.cfg
[13:06] <tusharkumar> cvam: maybe startup-manager might help you
[13:06] <mao> salvatore: what is megavideo
[13:06] <cvam> Stanley00: but i have grub legacy only
[13:07] <salvatore> web site for watching streaming movie
[13:07] <salvatore> after 75 min it blocks ur ip
[13:07] <conntrack> deleted a rule by mistake
[13:07] <Stanley00> cvam: I dont know about grub legacy. does it use update-grub to generate its config?
[13:07] <salvatore> and you have to wait 1 h before they unlock
[13:08] <mao> um...sorry,i don't know
[13:08] <cvam> Stanley00: update-grub make  entry for all available kernels in local disk in menu.lst file
[13:08] <jamil_1> salvatore: have you looked at jdownloader
[13:08] <BluesKaj> !grub legacy
[13:09] <salvatore> no never
[13:09] <BluesKaj> !legacy-grub
[13:09] <BluesKaj> bah
[13:10] <cvam> I've upgraded to natty  the system has grub instead of grub 2. why?
[13:11] <Pici> cvam: Because an upgrade won't upgrade your bootloader.
[13:14] <lessshaste> is there a tool for making animations like http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13991135 ?
[13:15] <cvam> Pici: I am using natty. I download kernel 2.6.38 using update manager. how to make it default kernel to load ?
[13:15] <Pici> cvam: The postinstall process should automatically do that.
[13:16] <JLuc> ah : 'folder' is the right word !
[13:16] <cvam> Pici: but i had only 2.6.36. today only i 've intalled 2.6.38 using update-manager
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> JLuc: folder = dossier, path = répertoire
[13:18] <JLuc> thanks monkeydust
[13:18] <JLuc> path = chemin rather
[13:18] <wyang_> racho, are you there?
[13:19] <JLuc> my computer english will improve !
[13:20] <wyang_> i met the problem of "Could not locate executable g77" on ubuntu 11.04 when compiling the numpy
[13:21] <cvam> Even though kernel 2.6.38 is default to natty, I hadn't . I update it using update-manager(as it asked for updation). how to make kernel 2.6.38 as default kernel
[13:21] <blinkiz> Hello. It exist a easy to use SMTP tester tool that I installed some time ago. Can someone remember for me the package name?
[13:22] <lessshaste> is there a tool for making animations like http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13991135 ?
[13:22] <blinkiz> Found it. swaks
[13:27] <mekwall> hi! I just moved back to ubuntu (11.04) and noticing major lag when moving windows (nvidia gfx) - anyone know what causes this and how to solve it?
[13:27] <sara> hi
[13:28] <sara> any bodi can help me to find the persian chanel?
[13:28] <pksadiq> !Persian
[13:28] <sara> any bodi can help me to find the persian channel?
[13:28]  * conntrack squawks
[13:29] <mehrenst> hi,
[13:29] <mehrenst> just downloaded 11.04 iso image from ubuntu.com but it does not fit onto a CD as the size is 714 MB. Am I doing something wrong?
[13:29] <lessshaste> mekwall, the normal answer is that you are not using hardware acceleration properly.. do you know what driver you are running?
[13:30] <pksadiq> !Md5 check this on downloaded iso
[13:30] <rkhshm> i'm trying to create a gparted USB stick..
[13:30] <lessshaste> mekwall, have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia ?
[13:30] <rkhshm> is it just sufficient to copy the ISO directly to the USB device?
[13:30] <pksadiq> !Md5
[13:30] <mehrenst> thanks a lot. I will check
[13:30] <mekwall> lessshaste: hardware acceleraiton is running, I've already checked that. and other stuff is smooth. running the latest driver from the x-updates repo
[13:31] <lessshaste> mekwall, nouveau or the commercial one?
[13:31] <mekwall> lessshaste: nvidia-current (guess thats nouveau?)
[13:31] <wyang_> blinkz, msmtp?
[13:31] <lessshaste> mekwall, try the link I pasted in that case
[13:33] <lessshaste> mekwall, hmm.. nvidia-current should be the binary driver I thought
[13:33] <mekwall> lessshaste: yeah I guess it is... I purged all the nvidia packages directly after install and then added the x-updates repo, so its probably not nouveau
[13:34] <lessshaste> mekwall, ah... can you read your X logs to see if there are any warnings?
[13:34] <mekwall> lessshaste: could be warnings bogging up :) good call... willl check
[13:35] <mekwall> lessshaste: Xorg log looks ok
[13:37] <aamax> hi all.... i installed ubuntu last night, haven't messed with a *nix OS for many years.. trying to learn ruby and rails.. can anyone help me with understanding some things?
[13:37] <rkhshm> guys I'm trying to install ubuntu 11.04 on a completely fresh HD.. I created a gparted USB stick and tried using it .. i still get BOOT ERROR
[13:37] <rkhshm> any ideas pls
[13:37] <rkhshm> its now critical
[13:37] <lessshaste> mekwall, I don't know what the problem is.. sorry
[13:37] <lessshaste> good luck!
[13:37] <mekwall> lessshaste: np, thanks for your time :)
[13:37] <jamil_1> aamax: please ask
[13:38] <aamax> i installed rvm.... and i got ruby 1.9.2 installed but i can't seem to get the right rails version to install.. if i just do a apt-get install rails it installs the older version..
[13:38] <aamax> i need to install 3.1.0 or later
[13:38] <drapedup> Does wine support DX11 ?
[13:38] <aamax> i did get xchat installed though :) LOL
[13:40] <jamil_1> aamax: have you tried gem install rails.....
[13:41] <aboudreault> Hi, does anyone already created a AMI (Amazon Machine Image) of Ubuntu?
[13:41] <nmvictor> does ubuntu and generally Linux have support for the protogon filesystem expected to show in Windows 8?
[13:41] <aboudreault> can't get it to boot on ec2
[13:41] <somsip> aboudreault: there are a few public AMIs that are available. Just search for them
[13:41] <aboudreault> somsip, that's not my question
[13:42] <edbian> nmvictor: I don't think so because I've never heard of that
[13:42] <dean> Hi all I like k9copy but I want a ripper to rip the dvd to hard drive before I transcode is there a ripper better for that?
[13:42] <drapedup> NM i see that some guys developed a way to hook DX11 into wine
[13:42] <pksadiq> !Rip
[13:43] <web_> hello there !
[13:44] <web_> hi there !
[13:44] <johnm> nmvictor: it's safe to say, no. Not at all. It's currently a undisclosed filesystem subject to change, with no pubblic references made available.
[13:44] <dean> pksadiq, This is for dvd ripping not audio
[13:44] <nmvictor> edbian: Windows 8 might finally lock out linux with its secure booting, well am reading that the protogon FS might mean an 8sec boot for windows 8, so i wondered if Linux has support for this FS.
[13:45] <johnm> nmvictor: if you're talking about finding a solution to an "8 second boot" then there are already many available.
[13:45] <web_> is there any one to tell me how to change my boot team on ubuntu matice ?
[13:45] <nmvictor> johnm: am looking to write linux drivers if it shows up
[13:46] <web_> is there any one to tell me how to change my boot team on ubuntu matice ?
[13:46] <nmvictor> johnm: am not looking for such a soln, it just got me interested.
[13:46] <edbian> nmvictor: I don't think it's the filesystem that will allow an 8 second boot (although it probably helps).  Yeah I've been reading about UEFI and the issues there.  I think when it is actually a problem (hardware vendors are actually using it) we'll have come up with some solution. I am pretty sure the way it's implemented right now you can simply turn it off
[13:46] <johnm> nmvictor: the UEFI spec is somethign a little different, its hardware and software vendor collaboration with keychain protection, it isn't "windows" per se. It'll be interesting though for sure.
[13:46] <johnm> nmvictor: ever tried to reverse engineer a microsoft filesystem? :)
[13:46] <kcm1700> i need help to erase a file named '--'
[13:46] <kcm1700> how to remove that file in bash?
[13:47] <nmvictor> johnm: nope
[13:47] <Jordan_U> kcm1700: rm './--'
[13:47] <kcm1700> thanks a lot
[13:47] <nmvictor> johnm: why?
[13:47] <johnm> nmvictor: tbh, I don;'t think its anything revolutionary, it's essentially just a database driven FS, similar to which already exist. It's non-compliant in many respects as well.
[13:47] <nmvictor> johnm: :)
[13:47] <Jordan_U> kcm1700: You're welcome.
[13:48] <johnm> nmvictor: Just curious, I'd like to wish you good luck in doing so and hope you stick it out - would be worth looking into support from the SFLC as well - just as a precursor.
[13:48] <edbian> nmvictor: I've seen linux systems that boot in ~3 seconds
[13:50] <nmvictor> thanks johnm , edbian , about that, i though ubuntu was supposed to boot that fast, mine gets takes 5 sec after grub selection before the ubuntu boot progress dots start showing, any diagnose for that?
[13:51] <johnm> nmvictor: install bootchart and inspect whats taking the time
[13:51] <nmvictor> johnm: sure. i'd look into that
[13:51] <edbian> nmvictor: There is a tonne of stuff you can do.  http://lwn.net/Articles/299483/
[13:52] <sara> hi
[13:52] <johnm> nmvictor: histortically slow boot is caused by a linear init boot process, pending wait on device dependancies, and/or lack of preload. Most of it depends on what you actually have installed, frankly ;)
[13:52] <johnm> nmvictor: If you want a lightning boot process, use hibernate ;)
[13:53] <drapedup> johnm: isn't that essentially what win8 is doing?
[13:53] <johnm> drapedup: pretty much.
[13:53] <drapedup> a hybrid hibernation boot up
[13:54] <rkhshm> anyone here has a good idea with gparted
[13:54] <rkhshm> i'm having major trouble.
[13:56] <nmvictor> johnm: like you suggest i hibernate my laptop often, as opposed to poweroff?
[13:57] <sanderj_> Do anyone know if there is any diffrence in the datafiles between mysql 5.1.37-1ubuntu5.1
  and 5.1.37-1ubuntu5.5 on ubuntu 9.10.
[13:57] <sanderj_> ops
[13:57] <ikonia> sanderj_: data files ? they are yours
[13:57] <ikonia> sanderj_: you should be able to export/import between the versions without issue
[13:59] <sanderj_> ikonia, with exportg/import you mean only copy the data files from one dir to another install?
[13:59] <dean> Hi does anyone use Handbrake in here?
[14:00] <sanderj_> ikonia, should or is?
[14:00] <ikonia> sanderj_: well, you may have to do things like change the permissions on the database
[14:01] <ikonia> sanderj_: eg: the new database will need to grant permissions to the new schema,
[14:01] <ikonia> sanderj_: I'd suggest doing a mysql_dump on the database, then importing from that
[14:01] <ikonia> sanderj_: but in theory you could just copy the files and run a grant, but that's a very sloppy way
[14:01] <ikonia> dean: yes, why
[14:02] <sanderj_> ikonia, Why do I need to run a grant if I copy all the internal data also?
[14:02] <dean> ikonia, I was wondering if you knew what option you have to select to make sure the subtitles appear after converting?
[14:02] <web_> hello
[14:02] <ikonia> sanderj_: I wouldn't advise moving ALL the databases, just the personal schema
[14:02] <ikonia> sanderj_: replacing the mysql db from antoher box isn't a good idea
[14:03] <ikonia> dean: there is a subtitle check box
[14:03] <ikonia> dean: there is also the #handbrake channel
[14:03] <sanderj_> ikonia, if it's the same version, then it's ok I guess.
[14:03] <ikonia> sanderj_: no,
[14:03] <dean> ikonia, There is default, burned in and forced I didn't know which is best to use
[14:03] <ikonia> sanderj_: depends on how it's setup there could be references to hostnames/ip addresses that no longer are valid
[14:04] <ikonia> dean: #handbrake is your friend on that one, I never use subtitles so don't understand the difference
[14:04] <dean> ikonia, Ok thanks
[14:04] <sanderj_> ikonia, I'm setting up the same ip adress also, because i'm moving it from one virtual platform to another.
[14:04] <sanderj_> ikonia, the same ip I mean.
[14:04] <ikonia> sanderj_: again, I would strongly not recommend it
[14:05] <ikonia> sanderj_: the internal mysql database is quite fussy and very core to your functionality, better to export the schemas and import into a new running database
[14:05] <sanderj_> ikonia, what if I have the same version on both places?
[14:05] <ikonia> sanderj_: the version is not the issue as I've said
[14:05] <sanderj_> ikonia, it will take so long time with 1200 databases.
[14:05] <ikonia> sanderj_: why are you against exporting and importing
[14:05] <ikonia> sanderj_: script it, it will be just as quick
[14:06] <ikonia> sanderj_: mysql_dump and then mysql -d < $dumpfile
[14:06] <ikonia> sanderj_: obviously -d $database name etc
[14:06] <sanderj_> ikonia, how can I copy over 1200 grants also?
[14:07] <polkom21> Hey!
[14:07] <ikonia> sanderj_: it's included in the dump
[14:07] <ikonia> sanderj_: well, again, depends on what you take over
[14:07] <fireprint> I have an issue where all my close minimize and what not button line is gone.. on everything. Tried googling but doesnt seem to give any solution. Anyone know of a quickfix? (im thinking i might've done something in effects that m not aware of)
[14:08] <edbian> fireprint: alt + f2     then compiz --replace&
[14:08] <fireprint> oh look at that!.. thanks! Appreciated edbian
[14:09] <edbian> fireprint: sure
[14:09] <fireprint> what exactly did the --replace& do?
[14:09] <edbian> fireprint: ur window decorator crashed.  (look at window decorations in ccsm)  that command restarts compiz (and restarts the decorator)
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> fireprint: the & makes it un in the background
[14:09] <edbian> fireprint: & makes it run the background
[14:09] <edbian> darnit
[14:10] <fireprint> Nice. thank you for helping me out. Appreciated guys
[14:10] <fireprint> So it would've done the same thing if  i restarted the computer?
[14:12] <_cb> To get active directory like functionality I would need to deploy LDAP + SAMBA + Kerberos, right? (Any easy to use GUI's that would help with implementation and management?)
[14:12] <fireprint> edbian, am i correct in thinking that a hardrestart of my laptop would restart as well?
[14:12] <fireprint> i mean, as in fix it.
[14:13] <reinhold> Does anyone have an idea when libguile 2.0 (released in February) will be available as a ubuntu package? In LilyPond, we heavily depend on guile, and we'd like to finally make the switch to guile 2.0. But since we depend on ubuntu packages for our docs writers etc. we can't switch to guile 2.0 as long as ubuntu doesn't have any guile 2.0 packages...
[14:14] <fireprint> As my dock got messed up with the command. I will try the restart. Again, thanks guys
[14:16] <osb_> how would one enable dual core cpu support on Natty?  Ubuntu puts me in SMP mode with only one of my cpu cores appearing at half clock speed.
[14:16] <ikonia> or using one
[14:16] <ikonia> osb_: how do you know it's only showing one
[14:17] <osb_> Linux redbox 2.6.38-11-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 12 21:17:25 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:17] <ikonia> osb_: where does that show it's only using 1 core
[14:17] <osb_> and pastebin of dmesg: http://pastebin.com/nTkTaMm9
[14:17] <osb_> ikonia: proc/cpuinfo says so.
[14:17] <osb_> cat /proc/cpuinfo | egrep '(model name|cpu MHz|core id)'
[14:17] <osb_> err
[14:17] <osb_> osb@redbox:/boot$ cat /proc/cpuinfo | egrep '(model name|cpu MHz|core id)'
[14:17] <osb_> model name: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+
[14:17] <osb_> cpu MHz: 1000.000
[14:17] <osb_> core id: 0
[14:17] <FloodBot1> osb_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:18] <ikonia> osb_: pastebin the full output of /proc/cpuinfo please.
[14:18] <osb_> there's the gusto.
[14:18] <ikonia> osb_: "cat /proc/cpuinfo" and put it in a pastebin
[14:18] <osb_> what are you looking for?
[14:18] <ikonia> osb_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && cat /proc/cpuinfo | pastbinit
[14:18] <osb_> http://pastebin.com/dT14cRsH
[14:19] <osb_> it's a dual core processor showing one cpu core at half the clock speed.
[14:19] <ikonia> osb_: the clock spead is not a massive issue as powerscaling can effect it,
[14:20] <BarkingFish> !info opensync-module-python
[14:20] <osb_> sure
[14:20] <BarkingFish> :(
[14:20] <ikonia> osb_: [    0.050174] SMP motherboard not detected.
[14:20] <ikonia> #
[14:20] <ikonia> [    0.060000] SMP disabled
[14:20] <ikonia> osb_: I suspect that's the issue
[14:20] <osb_> hrm
[14:21] <osb_> my motherboard supposedly supports this processor
[14:21] <BarkingFish> anyone know why the opensync python module wasn't carried into maverick or natty please? It's vital that I get it, and can't currently install it despite having backports available
[14:22] <mekwall> ok, I'm having a really weird problem. I have stuttering and lag when moving and resizing windows, but when I run glxgears I get about 10k fps, but the gears that show gives me about .5-1 fps
[14:22] <iceroot> BarkingFish: i guess the package was renamed
[14:22] <mekwall> any idea on what the problem might be?
[14:22] <iceroot> BarkingFish: or integrated into other packages
[14:23] <Tronic> After updating to 11.10 my network started to disconnect about once a day. The interface still has an IP but communication won't work for some reason until after I restart dhclient.
[14:23] <iceroot> Tronic: #ubuntu+1
[14:23] <osb_> ikonia: any ideas?
[14:23] <BarkingFish> iceroot, that could be a problem then.  I'm trying to sync my HP iPAQ with synce - and the opensync portion of it is still looking for opensync-module-python, so that means opensync hasn't been updated properly.
[14:23] <ikonia> osb_: just reading through the dmesg output
[14:23] <ikonia> osb_:  0.000000] Booting paravirtualized kernel on bare hardware
[14:23] <orated> I read that partimage does not support ext4 file system but I found that partimage takes backup of such partitions, why? Is it reliable?
[14:24] <ikonia> osb_: that interests me, but I've not quite worked out the relevence yet
[14:24] <iceroot> BarkingFish: yes, sounds like a bug about dependencies
[14:24] <antihoax> hi
[14:24] <osb_> i was going to try to use something from mainline ppa and see if that helps
[14:24] <photofficine> hi all
[14:24] <ikonia> osb_: it's not a kernel issue, I don't believe
[14:24] <BarkingFish> i'm just wondering if I can nick the copy that was in lucid and install it as a safety net for now
[14:24] <osb_> my bios supports the cpu so either its reporting it to the kernel incorrectly or the kernle is borked
[14:24] <osb_> i dunno.
[14:26] <darkknightcz> hi, is someone here using squid with some auth program?
[14:26] <iceroot> darkknightcz: #squid
[14:26] <ikonia> darkknightcz: not at the moment, but I have done in the past, with local tdb database and ldap
[14:26] <darkknightcz> iceroot: writting there for 3 days with no response :)
[14:27] <photofficine> i have a problem with my pc, i have a acer aspire M5641 and i installed Ubuntu 11.04, but the wireless connection no work, it constantly asking me the password. what's the problem?
[14:27] <iceroot> darkknightcz: its a good idea not to use questions containg "is someone". ask real question with usefull details
[14:27] <ikonia> darkknightcz: you've been answered in #squid
[14:28] <darkknightcz> ikonia: thanks :)
[14:28] <orated> moreover, why partimage calls ext4 filesystem as ext3fs and takes its image? Is it reliable when the documentation says that it doesn't support ext4?
[14:29] <osb_> would be nice to be able to use the other core =)
[14:31] <osb_> motd
[14:31] <Guest22100> ola
[14:32] <ana_> ola
[14:32] <fireprint> hola..?
[14:32] <ana_> ola ola ola ola
[14:32] <ana_> !!
[14:32] <photofficine> help me please
[14:32] <ana_> ami tambien ayudenmeee!!
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> !es| ana_
[14:33] <fireprint> photofficine, you say it continues to ask for a password. Are you not getting connected, or asking for password everytime you log on to it?
[14:33] <ana_> me valeee!!!
[14:33] <orated> In this partition table, which partition contains grub and MBR?
[14:33] <orated> http://pastebin.com/m8U3rMaT
[14:33] <ana_> yes... yes!
[14:33] <ikonia> ana_: can we help you ?
[14:33] <bearly230> Quick question. Since ubuntu 11.04 does not send log entries to the /var/log/messages file anymore, where do those messages go to now?
[14:34] <osb_> oh well
[14:34] <ikonia> orated: the mbr is on /dev/sda
[14:34] <ana_> ahhh
[14:34] <ikonia> osb_: still reading trying to understand what's failing
[14:35] <orated> ikonia: But if I want to take partition image, how will I take sda image?
[14:35] <osb_> oh ok
[14:35] <osb_> thanks
[14:35] <orated> partimage doesn't allow to do that
[14:35] <xbuntu> I need help.. in Ubuntu when i try to reload alsa it says a bunch of "Output Info may be incomplete"
[14:35] <ikonia> orated: you take an image of /dev/sda - that's the disk, not the partition
[14:35] <osb_> [    0.000000] Malformed early option 'acpi'
[14:35] <osb_> i should acpi=off on that
[14:35] <photofficine> fireprint always asks the password, I insert it but requires it again, i can not connect
[14:35] <orated> ikonia: Yes, ofc. But not with partimage then
[14:35] <osb_> i killed acpi support in my bios
[14:36] <ikonia> osb_: then do'nt use part image
[14:36] <ikonia> orated: it's called "partimage" partition image, not disk image
[14:36] <orated> yes!
[14:36] <djino> hi - I have been using the ubuntu software center to install an application. I have removed it, and tried to reinstall, but it seems that it never does it fully. For example, the configuration files that were previously present never get installed. Can I force it somehow?
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> photofficine: password or a WEP/WPA key? or a password for the keyring?
[14:36] <xbuntu> Can anyone help me?.. Im trying to reload alsa.. and it says lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/xbuntu/.gvfs
[14:36] <xbuntu>       Output information may be incomplete.
[14:36] <fireprint> photofficine,  if i understand correctly. Have you checked that you are trying to connect to the right ssid, and passwd is correct (say from another computer etc)? plus the thing MonkeyDust said.
[14:37] <fireprint> the reason it asks, would seem to be (from what you're saying) that its not accepting the password..
[14:38] <bearly230> Quick question. Since ubuntu 11.04 does not send log entries to the /var/log/messages file anymore, where do those messages go to now?
[14:38] <orated> Other than dd, is there any tool which allows to take disk image? The problem is that dd will take lot of space to write image to whereas partimage allows to take partition image which are necessary. ikonia
[14:39] <photofficine> fireprint, the password is correct, but the manager network asks the password continually, only this
[14:40] <ikonia> orated: whats the gparted imaging tool call
[14:40] <xbuntu> Can someone help me when i reload alsa
[14:40] <xbuntu> it gives me this message
[14:40] <vassie79> hello, can someone help me to create a very simple samba share?
[14:40] <xbuntu> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/xbuntu/.gvfs
[14:40] <xbuntu>       Output information may be incomplete.
[14:40] <osb_> [F[F[F
[14:40] <osb_> err
[14:40] <xpololz> Hello! I just bought myself a new(3rd) monitor and plugged it in with a DisplayPort to DVI Cable. I've got a ATI Radoen HD 5700 se. But when I try to active the new display I get "Invalid Settings". I'm on Ubuntu 11.4, does anyone out there know how to fix this?
[14:41] <orated> ikonia: huh? Gparted is a partitioning software
[14:41] <xpololz> just removed fglrx, can't even do fglrxinfo now, but when I try to "sudo sh ati-driver-installer-11-8-x86.x86_64.run" it comes up with a message that a previous install of fglrx driver has been detected.
[14:41] <ikonia> orated: there is an image based live cd based on gparted
[14:41] <ikonia> orated: I can't think of the name of it
[14:42] <orated> ikonia: Ok, I'll find out..moreover, why partimage calls ext4 filesystem as ext3fs and takes its image? Is it reliable when the documentation says that it doesn't support ext4?
[14:42] <fireprint> photofficine,  have you tried wicd and see if it still accures there?
[14:42] <fireprint> occures..
[14:42] <ikonia> orated: no idea
[14:43] <ikonia> orated: clonezilla
[14:43] <ThonEney> anyone here that knows how can i remove ati drivers from a recovery console or simmilar?
[14:43] <ikonia> orated: thats the name of it
[14:43] <orated> Thanks!
[14:43] <photofficine> fireprint, I have not tried it yet
[14:43] <segol> Any fixes for the i845 GPU driver crashes?
[14:43] <dean> ikonia, Hey I spoke to you before and you were a great help do you find your conversions on handbrake come out at m4v not mp4?
[14:44] <fireprint> photofficine,  if you dont feel comfortable with using that, try removing the settings for the ssid you have now.. and retype in info. Like forget the one you're using and redo it. Might also be that simple
[14:44] <ionite> can anyone please teach me how do i edit my 40-lib-sane rules in GUI under administrator privileges?
[14:44] <ikonia> dean: they use the mp4 container but normally have an different extension
[14:45] <bearly230> Quick question. Since ubuntu 11.04 does not send log entries to the /var/log/messages file anymore, where do those messages go to now?
[14:45] <ThonEney> no one?
[14:45] <dean> ikonia, What it is I have a samsung lcd tv with a usb media player and I know it plays avi and mp4 but not sure it would play m4v but I wondered if I could get it to convert to mp4 instead?
[14:45] <photofficine> fireprint, i have tried removing the setting for the ssid but don't work
[14:46] <ionite> how do i edit 40 lib sane files?
[14:46] <fireprint> hmm and you were not using keyrings?
[14:46] <ionite> ikonia: are u there?
[14:46] <fireprint> photofficine,  you were not using keyrings?
[14:46] <ikonia> ionite: yes, why ?
[14:46] <ionite> ikonia: do u know how do i edit lib sane files?
[14:46] <ikonia> ionite: why ?
[14:46] <ikonia> dean: mp4 container in an m4v extension
[14:46] <ionite> ikonia: i'm at this stage: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/instruction_scn1c.html
[14:47] <ikonia> ionite: are you doing this on ubuntu
[14:47] <osb_> im going to try a 3.0.0 kernel
[14:47] <ionite> ikonia: yes. i'm currently using easy peasy manager.
[14:47] <Fuco> is there a way to use apt-get to install the package to my home? (I'm on a machine where I don't have full access)
[14:47] <ikonia> osb_: I'd recommend against it, but ok
[14:47] <ikonia> ionite: I don't know what easy peasy manager is
[14:48] <osb_> i dont have many options
[14:48] <fireprint> photofficine, im starting to get out of ideas for my "level" here. hehe Sorry but if none of that works im gonna have to let someone else come up with what it could be.
[14:48] <ionite> ikonia: anyways, what do i type in terminal to edit the lib sane file?
[14:48] <ikonia> ionite: easy peasy is it's own distro, not ubuntu
[14:49] <ionite> ikonia: it's based on ubuntu isnt it?
[14:49] <ikonia> ionite: it's not ubuntu
[14:49] <fireprint> photofficine, try using wicd just as a trial, and if that does not help im not sure what it could be to be honest.
[14:49] <ikonia> ionite: it's support channel is #easypeasy
[14:49] <ikonia> ionite: http://www.geteasypeasy.com/help/
[14:49] <dean> ikonia, I have read it isn't the same as mp4 though just uses the same codec
[14:49] <ionite> ikonia: assuming i am doing it through ubuntu. what do i type in terminal>
[14:49] <ikonia> dean: again, #handbrake is your friend
[14:50] <ikonia> ionite:  -no, you are not, use the correct support channel
[14:50] <ikonia> ionite: I've just pointed you to the right place and given you the support web page for more help, please use it
[14:50] <photofficine> fireprint, no without keyrings
[14:50] <Dan23> Any idea why my netcat version doesn't have the "-c" option available?
[14:50] <photofficine> i tried wicd but don't work
[14:51] <ionite> ikonia: u mean ure not telling me even though i am asking a ubuntu related question?
[14:51] <fireprint> photofficine, that just sounds weird to me. Im sorry i couldnt be of much help.
[14:51] <ikonia> ionite: it's not ubuntu.
[14:51] <oldwzd> freebsd
[14:51] <ZontaX> yo ! can somebody see my IP adress now ?
[14:52] <segol> I've got an IBM G78 CRT screen that isn't being properly recognized, under monitors it thinks the refresh rate should be 65Hz at 1600x1200, but the screen can only handle 60Hz at 1600x1200. How do I fix it?
[14:52] <oldwzd> nmnd me, misstyped
[14:52] <ionite> ikonia: thanks.
[14:52] <katkee> hello, ruby-activerecord-2.3 package on ubuntu 11.10 does not install anymore. can someone help?
[14:52] <Dan23> Is the netcat version in ubuntu not the latest version?
[14:52] <fireprint> ZontaX, you're using a proxy. hence no.
[14:52] <ikonia> ionite: no problem
[14:52] <segol> http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/visuals/g78e1.pdf
[14:52] <ionite> ikonia: it's actually only this gksu gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/40-libsane.rules
[14:52] <ZontaX> fireprint thanks for the confirmation :D
[14:53] <ikonia> ionite: I know what it is
[14:53] <xbuntu> can someone help me when i try to force-reload alsa it gives me lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/xbuntu/.gvfs
[14:53] <xbuntu>       Output information may be incomplete.
[14:53] <ZontaX> fireprint that finally works for me ...i was in hell to make this happen XD
[14:53] <photofficine> fireprint,  it's possible that the problem is the drivers?
[14:53] <ionite> ikonia: good.
[14:53] <fireprint> ZontaX, i see. Well, paranoia is a good thing ;)
[14:54] <katkee> ruby-activerecord-2.3 : Depends: ruby-activesupport-2.3 (< 2.3.11.1) but 2.3.14-2 is to be installed, E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[14:54] <massi> cerco aiuto
[14:54] <fireprint> photofficine, I honestly can not see how that would make it ask for a password. However, what i can do, is do some googling and see if i can figure it out.
[14:54] <Pici> !it | massi
[14:54] <massi> qualcuno mi puo aiutare
[14:54] <bearly230> Quick question. Since ubuntu 11.04 does not send log entries to the /var/log/messages file anymore, where do those messages go to now?
[14:54] <orated> ikonia: But, I didn't quite get how clonezilla will help me. I see it can be used as a Live drive to clone a single partition on the media, to a separate medium device. The cloned data can be saved as an image-file or as a duplicated copy of the data. Bios usually goes to the first sector, so will sda1 contain the bootloader?
[14:55] <usr13> xbuntu: what was the command you used?
[14:55] <xbuntu> i used
[14:55] <xbuntu> alsa force-reload
[14:55] <ikonia> orated: you can clone data to antoher disk, or to a file on a network(or other disk)
[14:55] <xbuntu> but u see thats not all i get
[14:55] <xbuntu> theres more but i dont want ot post the whole thing on here
[14:55] <orated> ikonia: yeah ...
[14:55] <xbuntu> it says "Fatal error"
[14:55] <xbuntu> FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.38-11-generic-pae/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[14:55] <xbuntu>  (failed)
[14:55] <FloodBot1> xbuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:55] <fireprint> photofficine, before doing that though. You're using network manager.. with no keyrings, tried wicd and redoing the ssid info..? did i get that right?
[14:55] <ikonia> orated: what do you actually want it to do
[14:56] <usr13> xbuntu: alsa fouce-reload | pastebinit
[14:56] <orated> ikonia: I want to take backup of bootloader, grub
[14:56] <fireprint> photofficine, are you on kde or fome?
[14:56] <usr13> xbuntu: It says "see dmesg"
[14:56] <fireprint> photofficine, hehe gnome even
[14:56] <photofficine> fireprint, thank you. the problem is that i can't use the wireless connection but only the lan. the password that it ask is a WPA. thank you again
[14:56] <xbuntu> wheres dmesg im new to ubuntu
[14:56] <segol> I've got an IBM G78 CRT screen that isn't being properly recognized, under monitors it thinks the refresh rate should be 65Hz at 1600x1200, but the screen can only handle 60Hz at 1600x1200. How do I fix it? http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/visuals/g78e1.pdf
[14:56] <photofficine> fireprint, gnome
[14:57] <usr13> xbuntu: ls /lib/modules/2.6.38-11-generic-pae/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko
[14:57] <fireprint> photofficine, oh, one thing.. you are NOT getting access to the wireless?
[14:57] <photofficine> fireprint,  yes
[14:57] <osb_> [F[F[F
[14:57] <fireprint> photofficine,  i thought you ment you had to retype the password each time you rebooted etc.. but you're not getting access?
[14:58] <xbuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/697310/
[14:58] <osb_> i might file a bug report
[14:58] <osb_> hrm
[14:59] <photofficine> fireprint, not i don't have access to wireless because it ask me continually the wpa password, now i am connet with LAN
[14:59] <orated> ikonia: Or I need not take backup of bootloader? CAn it be easily fixed/installed when restoring other partitions?
[14:59] <usr13> xbuntu: What did  ls /lib/modules/2.6.38-11-generic-pae/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko  say?
[14:59] <xbuntu> nothing
[14:59] <xbuntu> all it does is just paste the same text i just wrote
[14:59] <ikonia> orated: if you backup the disk, it will be backed up, if you backup a partition, you'll need to apply the boot loader manually to the mbr
[14:59] <usr13> xbuntu: So you are sure the file does in fact exist?  (Yes.  No.)
[14:59] <fireprint> photofficine, oh i see. hmm has it ever worked? is is a fresh install? then there's a good chance you're not having everything installed correctly
[15:00] <xbuntu> i think so
[15:00] <xbuntu> how would i find out?
[15:00] <usr13> xbuntu: dmesg | pastebinit
[15:01] <xbuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/697311/
[15:01] <antihoax> hi guys
[15:01] <antihoax> someone seen NixiePixie ?
[15:01] <genii-around> Dan23: The package netcat-traditional should contain it, instead of the default netcat version
[15:01] <photofficine> fireprint, the wireless connection worked one time, the installation is not fresh, but i used little this pc because the wireless not work
[15:01] <Dan23> genii-around, thanks, that fixed it
[15:01] <usr13> xbuntu:  ls /lib/modules/2.6.38-11-generic-pae/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko | pastebinit
[15:01] <orated> ikonia: I cannot backup disk using dd as I'm out of space. So I'm left to consider partimage to take partition image or use clonezilla. If bootloader can be applied to it manually, you mean installing grub manually later? Could you link me a documentation for the same please?
[15:02] <photofficine> now i have update all, but not i yet the reboot
[15:02] <genii-around> Dan23: You're welcome
[15:02] <ikonia> !grub2 > orated
[15:02] <xbuntu> then all it says /lib/modules/2.6.38-11-generic-pae/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko
[15:02] <xbuntu> thats what it says when i open the link
[15:03] <usr13> xbuntu: Maybe you should start by telling us why you are needing to do:   alsa force-reload
[15:03] <photofficine> fireprint, 2 seconds, i reboot and let you know how it went. just i arrive
[15:04] <xbuntu> well because i added something to asla-base.conf because im not getting no sound out of my main speakers and i wanted to see if it would work
[15:04] <xbuntu> im only getting sound out of my subwoofer
[15:04] <usr13> xbuntu: Ok it says SOMETHING then.  (It reports to you the file and it's path, therefore confirming to you that the file does, indeed, exist.)
[15:04] <xbuntu> and im not sure if its an error or if maybe its loading the wrong jack idk
[15:04] <orated> ikonia: Ok, the documentation suggest about restoring/installing grub manually. So, by what I'm doing, will I be able to do that?
[15:04] <ikonia> orated: yes
[15:04] <dean> ikonia, Sorry only just seen your message I am going to do one chapter and try it on my tv
[15:05] <ikonia> dean: no problem
[15:05] <orated> ikonia: Thank you!
[15:05] <usr13> xbuntu: Did you first run alsamixer to see if channels are turned down or muted?
[15:05] <xbuntu> Yes
[15:05] <xbuntu> I reinstalled the os and everything
[15:05] <usr13> xbuntu: No M or MM  at bottom of collums?
[15:05] <xbuntu> the the update / upgrade command to see if any packages are missing / restarted after
[15:05] <xbuntu> Nope
[15:06] <usr13> xbuntu: You reinstalled the OS?
[15:06] <xbuntu> My sound card is Realtek alc888
[15:06] <xbuntu> and yes
[15:06] <xbuntu> i did
[15:06] <xbuntu> 3 times
[15:06] <FloodBot1> xbuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:06] <dean> ikonia, Thanks again tho
[15:06] <xbuntu> When i do go into the alsa-base.conf it doesnt say anything about my model of my computer or anything
[15:06] <usr13> xbuntu: Did you see your sound card's ID properly identified in the alsamixer window?
[15:06] <ikonia> dean: welcome
[15:06] <xbuntu> Well it says hda intel.. and i think realtek is a intel chip if im not mistaken
[15:07] <fireprint> Can someone do me a favor here? I am trying to help photofficine out, however. i need to leave. Just give him the message please. Thanks
[15:07] <ooxi> hi i want a ubuntu/debian live cd where i can install packages but on a console, not a x desktop
[15:07] <ooxi> where can i finde something like that?
[15:07] <usr13> xbuntu:  Do this:   cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[15:08] <ooxi> or can i tell the ubuntu install cd to not start x?
[15:08] <ooxi> grml?
[15:08] <xbuntu> Usr13: its just sitting there not doing anything
[15:08] <usr13> xbuntu: It should say  Card: Intel  on the first line and then  Chip: Realtek  on the second line. (In alsamixer window)
[15:09] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[15:09] <segol> I've got an IBM G78 CRT screen that isn't being properly recognized, under monitors it thinks the refresh rate should be 65Hz at 1600x1200, but the screen can only handle 60Hz at 1600x1200. How do I fix it?
[15:09] <photofficine> fireprint, i reboot but nothing the network manager ask me the password
[15:09] <usr13> xbuntu: Open a terminal and run alsamixer
[15:09] <lucidgy> Recomendations...  In need of a firewall.  Cheap small solution!  I'm thinking of maybe picking up a cheak negear router/switch and loading openWRT.. or maybe picking up a microPC and loading linux/iptables.
[15:09] <antihoax> segol<< you can set it in xorg.conf
[15:09] <usr13> xbuntu: Do you see the sound card properly identified in upper left corner?
[15:09] <codemagician> for a production server should I stick with ubuntu server 10.04 LTS or the 11 version and why?
[15:10] <xbuntu> just says
[15:10] <usr13> xbuntu: If not, hit F6
[15:10] <antihoax> segol<< you can set it in xorg.conf
[15:10] <xbuntu> realtek alc888
[15:10] <usr13> Yea... what does it say....
[15:10] <usr13> Ok.... Look at bottom the collums, look for  M  or  MM
[15:11] <xbuntu> Nothings muted
[15:11] <awaad> What is the same like "rpm -ql" in ubuntu ?
[15:11] <usr13> Expecially Main or PCM
[15:11] <xbuntu> Nothings muted
[15:11] <usr13> Are they turned up?
[15:11] <xbuntu> 100%
[15:11] <usr13> How about the speakers themselves?  Power plugged in and turned up?
[15:11] <bastidrazor> awaad: what does -ql flags do?
[15:12] <xbuntu> laptop so internal sound
[15:12] <llutz> awaad: dpkg -L packagename
[15:12] <usr13> WHat port are they plugged into?   Try a different...... OH, it is a laptop....  Try the FN keys.
[15:12] <xbuntu> The problem is that its only coming from the subwoofer
[15:13] <xbuntu> Nothings coming from the main speakers so im thinking that its just something with alsa-base.conf
[15:13] <usr13> xbuntu: What do you mean it is only coming from the subwoofer?
[15:13] <xbuntu> its only coming from the sub
[15:13] <xbuntu> like when i go to youtube the sound is being directed to the sub
[15:13] <codemagician> where do I find the unmodified Amazon EC2 Ubuntu AMI?
[15:13] <usr13> xbuntu: Oh well, I don't know.... but sorry, my time is up.  I must go.
[15:13] <usr13> work to do...
[15:13] <xbuntu> k
[15:13] <codemagician> where do I find the unmodified Amazon EC2 Ubuntu 10.04 LTS AMI?
[15:14] <usr13> somone else may be watching and can pick you up... hopfefully.   at any rate, ttyl
[15:15] <xbuntu> whats the commands to get your sound card model
[15:15] <llutz> xbuntu: cat /proc/asound/cards
[15:16] <xbuntu> erm
[15:16] <mneptok> xbuntu: have you looked at all the mixer settings?
[15:16] <xbuntu> says no such file or direc
[15:16] <xbuntu> and yes i have
[15:16] <InphraRed> hi I'm trying to compile some software... I'm having to run after ever little api.. is there a way to install all dev packages relevant to the already installed packages on a system?  And make it default so the next time I install gtk or something the dev package is also installed?
[15:16] <xbuntu> all unmuted and everything
[15:16] <Sigvatr> http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/7544/chuga19ef7.jpg
[15:16] <InphraRed> I don't know why distros segregate dev packages anyway, it's always annoying :\
[15:17] <xbuntu> cat /proc/asound/cards
[15:17] <xbuntu> cat: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory
[15:19] <xbuntu> am i suppose to have the directery /proc/asound/cards
[15:19] <xbuntu> ?
[15:19] <xbuntu> directory*
[15:29] <ManaPirat> test
[15:30] <conntrack> test worked!
[15:30] <pksadiq> !Test
[15:31] <JLuc> i dont find ubuntu one in the applications menu (without Unity). How can i launch it ?
[15:33] <Nova685> JLuc: its also located in the controll center
[15:33] <salomonv> hi, I need to get Fortran 77 on natty, any idea where I can get it?
[15:34] <JLuc> yes last item thanks nova685
[15:34] <pksadiq> !Find fortan
[15:35] <pksadiq> !find gfortran
[15:43] <baia> Hello! Is anybody familiar with python-nautilus in oneiric? When I'm trying to run nautilus with some of the python-nautilus examples I get an "ImportError: cannot import name _API". I'm not sure if the problem is in python-nautilus or somewhere else.
[15:43] <llutz> baia: Support in #ubuntu+1 , not here
[15:44] <helpme> i decided that i wanted to see Windows 8, so i shrunk my windows partition (no way i was gonna mess with my lenny part) and installed it, n then was quickly bored so i wanted to go back to lenny...guess what no grub.
[15:45] <baia> llutz: Where should I ask?
[15:45] <bastidrazor> helpme: ask in #debian
[15:45] <helpme> so then i changed the bootable partition back to the orig...win vista. but still no grub?? what do i need to do
[15:45] <helpme> bastidrazor, why would i ask in debian?
[15:46] <bastidrazor> helpme: lenny is debian, not ubuntu
[15:46] <helpme> oh..lenny meaning...linux, not the deb "lenny" rofl
[15:46] <helpme> its ubuntu
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> helpme: can you give the output of:  lsb_release-sc    please
[15:47] <helpme> ActionParsnip, sure 1 sec
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> helpme: oops typo
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> helpme: lsb_release -sc
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> missed the space ;)
[15:47] <helpme> lucid
[15:47] <Polah> Does the system attempt to verify user passwords multiple times with logging in if the first attempt is rejected?
[15:48] <helpme> ActionParsnip, thats the live cd im in, but ive upgraded to 11.4 "natty:
[15:48] <zooka> Polah: Should try about 3 times. Or did you mean multiple times for the same attempt?
[15:48] <blqqq> hello, can somebody help me with Realtek RTL8111/8168B driver problem - I have Internet, but is very slow. There is no such problem with wireless, so I think the driver is the problem. I tried to install latest official Realtek drivers but the Internet is slow again (ubutnu 11.04 64 bit)
[15:49] <Polah> zooka: Multiple times for each password entry. I only ask because I notice if I enter my password and it is correct, it logs in instantly, but if I enter it incorrectly it says "Checking..." for a second or two before saying "Authentication failed"
[15:49] <helpme> ActionParsnip, I thnk i need to fully re-install grub because one the steps i attempted did get grub to work, just no cfg, it was a ubuntu live cd version of the help
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> blqqq: tried a different DNS? I've seen people get faster web by switching
[15:49] <zooka> Polah: I'm not one hundred percent certain but I think there must be something like that since I've noticed that delay too
[15:49] <helpme> i have super grub 2 disk and managed to boot that drive ActionParsnip
[15:50] <blqqq> ActionParsnip: I tried and no result. On win 7 there is no problem with the same settings
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> helpme: then chroot and run:  grub-install /dev/drive; sudo update-grub     obviously change drive to the actual drive name (sda is common)
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> blqqq: disabling ipv6 can help too
[15:50] <helpme> ActionParsnip, k ill give that a try
[15:51] <Polah> blqqq: What's the problem?
[15:51] <blqqq> ActionParsnip: that was the first, that I tried - no result
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> blqqq: are there bugs reported?
[15:52] <blqqq> Polah: the Internet is very slow with Realtek RTL8111/8168B, with WiFi I have no problems
[15:52] <SubNormal> can any one tell me why DHCP does not show up in servers in webmin? I can see it though in un-used modules
[15:52] <blqqq> ActionParsnip: all day I search the web, and can find any solution
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> SubNormal: webmin isn't to be used in Ubuntu/Debian
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> blqqq: report a bug, let the guys know there is an issue
[15:53] <sanguisdex> I need to upgrade the the image on my android phone and have a vbox for windows but can't get the device to register in linux, anyone know what I should do here?
[15:53] <SubNormal> ActionParsnip why not?
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> !webmin | SubNormal
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> SubNormal: it was pulled from the repos for those reasons
[15:54] <helpme> ActionParsnip, ahh man....one of the threads must have changed something, now the linux partition isnt eveing showin up
[15:54] <amin`> openbox has the file autostart for starting application at openbox start up. could some one mention the name of such file for XMONAD ?
[15:55] <helpme> ActionParsnip, itll prob be easier to just re-install from scratch? all the tweaks i can do easily, files can be temp moved to the win partition
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> helpme: makes sense, I'd move them back one at a time and test in case there are issues
[15:55] <SubNormal> ActionParsnip damn it, and all the guides for DHCP that I've found are written for webmin. so what replaces webmin?
[15:55] <helpme> Ok ActionParsnip thank you anyhow...man when i mess it up, it just keeps snowballing on me rofl
[15:56] <slilo> SubNormal: edit configs manually
[15:56] <blqqq> there are some bug reports, but the only solituon (in most cases) is the latest driver from Realtek - that isn´t working for me - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/839393
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> !ebox | SubNormal you can use SSH easily
[15:56] <helpme> ActionParsnip, wasnt there an easy way to fix/install grub from a program that does it almost automatically?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> helpme: the only way I know is to use a chroot
[15:57] <zus> will the new ubuntu have 3.o kernel and gnome 3?
[15:57] <slilo> grub-install does it almost automatically )
[15:57] <orated> Is it possible to use split command to create dd? pipeline. Moreover, how can I let it split the file into parts after asking? ie can I configure it to ask before creating next part?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> zus: yes
[15:57] <Polah> helpme: That just adds complication. Using ActionParsnip's commands would be quicker
[15:57] <zus> ty ActionParsnip
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> zus: oneiric questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[15:57] <blqqq> ActionParsnip: there are some bug reports, but the only solituon (in most cases) is the latest driver from Realtek - that isn´t working for me - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/839393
[15:58] <helpme> Polah, what should i do then? the linux drive isnt even showing up in nautilus?
[15:58] <dagroves> How can I install a program to a flash drive? Like in Windows I can select what Drive I want to install the program to, I want to do that with linux, how can I do that
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> blqqq: sounds like you want Oneiric then
[15:58] <tomodachi> dagroves: you cant really in any simple way. It will install to its default location
[15:59] <dagroves> That really stinks, I really need to do it.
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> dagroves: if you are low on space, uninstall unused kernels and you'll get a tonne of extra space
[15:59] <dagroves> how do I uninstall unused kernels
[16:00] <SubNormal> ActionParsnip do I have to uninstall webmin before I install Zentyal?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> dagroves: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=17940
[16:00] <dagroves> okay ill try that
[16:00] <blqqq> ActionParsnip: can you tell me a little more about Oneiric?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> SubNormal: I would, just to be sure. Why not just use SSH and edit config files
[16:01] <Polah> helpme: Could be that you damaged the partition table
[16:01] <stercor> How do I start Ubuntu without starting X?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> blqqq: ask in #ubuntu+1
[16:01] <beevvy> Hi all. I am Kadu IM developer. Currently Kadu packages in Ubuntu are imported as they are in Debian. But we have good patches providing much better experience with Unity that are not included in latest stable version. I wonder what we need to do so that our Ubuntu users can take advantage of that work.
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> stercor: add the boot option: text
[16:01] <tomodachi> Seveas: add the linge single to your kernel parameters inthe grub bootloader
[16:01] <blqqq> ActionParsnip: 10x
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> blqqq: type /j #ubuntu+1
[16:01] <helpme> Polah, all the other drives are showin, win is bootin just fine
[16:01] <stercor> ActionParsnip: how/where?
[16:01] <blqqq> MonkeyDust: yes, I know ;)
[16:02] <bastidrazor> stercor: /etc/default/grub/   on the line   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"   add "text"
[16:02] <helpme> Polah...lemme check gparted and see if it show it
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | stercor
[16:02] <bastidrazor> stercor:  also do sudo update-grub after saving
[16:02] <scwizard> I made a user called Abe and added him to the admin group
[16:02] <codemagician> how do I pick an Amazon EC2 Ubuntu 10.04 LTS server AMI?
[16:02] <scwizard> when I log in as abe, why don't I have permission to mkdir in /home/abe ?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> scwizard: did you run:  sudo mkdir /home/abe
[16:03] <helpme> Polah, ok gpart shows all parts
[16:03] <scwizard> ActionParsnip: that's what I'm justa bout to do of course
[16:03] <scwizard> but I'm just wondering why? what's going on?
[16:03] <deke111> Just started using 11.04 - it comes with libreoffice suit. Just wondering what happend to openoffice.
[16:03] <scwizard> why don't users have permission to write to their own home folders by default?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> scwizard: well your question didn't mention sudo... so its a fair question
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> scwizard: did you also chown the home folder to the user?
[16:04] <SubNormal> ActionParsnip oh, I dont know, as my knowlegde regarding servers is almost none, I feel better about following guides and most of them i've found have webmin and stuff like that.
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> scwizard: sudo chown abe:abe /home/abe
[16:04] <scwizard> if I make a new user named Beth that isn't part of the admin group, why will Beth not have the ability to write to her own home folder by default?
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> codemagician: is this what you're looking for? http://cloud.ubuntu.com/ami/
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> scwizard: the home folder gets made by default either when the user is made, or when it first logs in
[16:04] <codemagician> MonkeyDust, thanks
[16:05] <codemagician> is the most stable ubuntu server 10.04 LTS?
[16:05] <scwizard> ActionParsnip: ok, and why are the persmissions of that home folder, such that the user who was just made doesn't have permission to write there?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> SubNormal: it doesn't gel with Ubuntu. If you learn to modify text files then you can work on ANY server rather than constraining yourself to using WebUIs
[16:05] <scwizard> I don't want to have to sudo chown every time I make a new user
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> scwizard: it should, you can chmod the folder so that it can
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> scwizard: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[16:06] <scwizard> ActionParsnip: maverick
[16:06] <stercor> ActionParsnip: That information should get me started.  Thanks!
[16:08] <SubNormal> ActionParsnip I know :) but webUI's are just so nice and kinda dummy proof, and probably after I've finished this server I wont make another, exept for XBMC
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> scwizard: strange, never had an issue. are you using the:   --no-create-home     option? That will make it not make, you can use: sudo adduser abe --home /home/abe    and it should make the home for you
[16:08] <scwizard> ActionParsnip: nope, I was just doing adduser Charlie
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> SubNormal: they won't always be available in all situations
[16:09] <scwizard> went adduser Abe
[16:09] <scwizard> adduser Abe Admin
[16:09] <scwizard> then peaced out
[16:09] <scwizard> now when I try and ssh-copy-id Abe@someipaddress tis' saying it doesn't have permission to make .ssh
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> scwizard: admin is in lowercase
[16:09] <scwizard> so now I need to go to each of the various peoples I made and chown
[16:10] <scwizard> ActionParsnip: yeah I put it in lowercase when I made the users
[16:10] <scwizard> and then double checked to make sure they were sudoers
[16:10] <maxagaz> what is the next step after the beta 2 ?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> maxagaz: ask in #ubuntu+1 for anything oneiric please
[16:10] <velory> hey there anyone using gedit as text editor here? I can't install third party plugin -- tried to copy folder to  ~/.gnome2/gedit/plugins (created plugins folder) and ~/.local/share/gedit/plugins (created gedit/plugins) any idea ? using 11.04 natty
[16:10] <jamescarr> how come my gvim menubar is gone in the latest versions of natty narwhal?
[16:10] <SubNormal> ActionParsnip btw I have zoneminder installed, could I get in trouble with zoneminder if I remove webmin?
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> maxagaz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[16:10] <jamescarr> I cannot access File, Edit, or anything esle
[16:10] <jamescarr> Is frustrating!
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> SubNormal: Ive used neither, so cannot comment
[16:11] <SubNormal> ActionParsnip ok thanks
[16:11] <orated> How can I let it split command, the file into parts after asking? ie can I configure it to ask before creating next part?
[16:13] <kernelpanicker> anyone know how to start a new paragraph (escape the current one, which is bulleted) in openoffice?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> kernelpanicker: press ENTER twice maybe...?
[16:15] <Teh_Lemon> :>
[16:19] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip, ok so i tried " sudo chroot /media/417881c2-b5a6-446b-90d2-27d9715d2cd3/" and it says /bin/bash: no such file/directory
[16:19] <xbuntu> can someone help me?.. i fixed my sound issue i didnt have the right model.. its suppose to be targa-2ch but now the sub doesnt play with the sound either
[16:19] <xbuntu> i tryed 8ch but that doesnt work it just goes back to the sub just workin
[16:20] <kernelpanicker> ActionParsnip: didn't work... used to just ctrl-enter in Word... doesn't work here... maddening
[16:20] <kernelpanicker> I know it's something simp[le
[16:20] <kernelpanicker> *simple
[16:20] <ubuntu_> kernelpanicker, shift enter?
[16:20] <yaerkin> ctrl+enter should be page break?
[16:21] <kernelpanicker> yaerkin: oh right
[16:21] <kernelpanicker> ubuntu_:  tried that
[16:22] <kernelpanicker> it looks like backpace-backspace clears the bullet, but not sure I'm in a new paragraph
[16:22] <xbuntu> what models are avaiable for msi computers?
[16:22] <xbuntu> for like... alsa
[16:22] <xbuntu> targa-2ch and 8ch is that all/
[16:23] <velory> hmm
[16:23] <velory> gedit third party directory is different on ubuntu I think not in .local/share/gedit ? anyone know ?
[16:23] <velory> ubuntu 11.04
[16:24] <Pazzo> TIFY pazz0
[16:25] <DrGamut> Hello, if I use separate X screen, is there a way I can load another sidebar or global menu bar on the additional screen?
[16:25] <drum> hallo
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> velory: I found ~/.config/gedit
[16:26] <velory> ah thank you ActionParsnip
[16:26] <dr_willis> DrGamut:  theres supposed to be some way you can run a  seperate desktop on the other screen. but ive never really found a need to use seperate X displays in twinview.
[16:26] <velory> checking
[16:26] <drum> i have a problem somebody can help me?
[16:26] <nathanel> hey there amigos: question: how can i run chromium as normal user within a script running with sudo using xdg-open "http//....." ?
[16:26] <dr_willis> nathanel:  you could use the su command in the script to start somtning as a normal user.
[16:26] <velory> umm no gedit directory there ActionParsnip there's gedit directory inside ~/.gnome2/gedit/ but there's no plugins directory there :/
[16:27] <velory> opened one but didn't help
[16:27] <nathanel> dr_willis: will try now thx :)
[16:27] <DrGamut> dr_willis, I'm not using TwinView, I was having issues with TwinView and I wanted to try separate X screen to see if it may be more to my liking. The only problem I have now is that there is no menu bars or launchers on the other X screen.
[16:28] <dr_willis> DrGamut:  that is a twinview feature to have one wide desktop, or 2 seperate X displays in the nvidia-settings tool.
[16:28] <dr_willis> DrGamut:  what issues with  using a single wide desktop were you having?
[16:28] <xbuntu> nvm fixed it
[16:28] <xbuntu> :-)
[16:28] <nathanel> dr_willis: it returns Unknown id: xdg-open 'http://localhost/phpmyadmin'
[16:29] <DrGamut> dr_willis, oh, I assumed they were separate because the options are either "TwinView or separate x screen". The problem I'm experiencing in TwinView is an occasional "wave" or vertical line that travels down the screen - where the picture is horizontally shifted on either side of it.
[16:29] <DrGamut> It's not terrible but it's an annoyance.
[16:29] <dr_willis> there may be some guides out on using 2 X sessions  but ive never needed to do it DrGamut . You basically need to somehow tell the 2nd x session to start a desktop.
[16:29] <DrGamut> I don't have the problem using the 2nd display alone, or using both displays in Windows.
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> velory: sudo apt-get install gedit-plugins      then copy the deb from /var/cache/apt/archives    extract it and see what's  going on. I don't use gedit so can't really comment much beyond running the app
[16:29] <dr_willis> twinview is the term for the nvidia's fancy xinerama replacement.
[16:30] <_cb> Is there anything like active directories for ubuntu? (I know LDAP provides a directory but does AD is more than a directory)
[16:30] <dr_willis> DrGamut:   You may want to try the various vsync  type options.
[16:30] <nathanel> dr_willis: it returns Unknown id: xdg-open 'http://localhost/phpmyadmin'
[16:30] <dr_willis> DrGamut:  or is it called vblank.
[16:30] <DrGamut> dr_willis, I'll check the options.
[16:30] <dr_willis> nathanel:  means nothing to me..  try it with some differnt command see if it works. could be somthing odd with xdg-open
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> _cb: LDAP does similar things to AD
[16:31] <nathanel> dr_willis: whatare the other default variables for using efault browser in ubuntu then?
[16:31] <DrGamut> dr_willis, although honestly I would prefer separate x screens if I could get another desktop session going. It's more suited to my purposes, as I'd like to have the 2nd screen detached from my 1st screens workspaces.
[16:31] <dr_willis> nathanel:  never used them.  so no idea.
[16:32] <dr_willis> DrGamut:  id say check the forums or the askubuntu.com site
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> _cb: http://www.pcdistrict.com/modules/productcatalog/product_images/145914-Ldap-Admin-Tool.png
[16:32] <DrGamut> dr_willis, thanks for your help.
[16:32] <dr_willis> bbl
[16:33] <tomodachi> DrGamut:  with twinview you can decide to have two separate screens or one "joined" one. You can also have to sepeare X sessons on each output. But that you have to configure yourself in xorg.conf
[16:34] <nathanel> dr_willis: i tried calling nautilus, it gives me the root session even using su
[16:34] <BrixSat> hello :) i have a pen drive problem
[16:34] <DrGamut> tomodachi, can I configure separate screens with TwinView under the NVIDIA X settings tool?
[16:34] <DrGamut> the default is joined screens, right?
[16:35] <tomodachi> DrGamut: yes but it requires a restart
[16:35] <_cb> ActionParsnip That does look a lot like AD. Little I have read on the internet says Kerberos needs to be added.
[16:35] <BrixSat> i plug my pendrrive and nothing happens :/  disk manager  says "cannot open /dev/sdc: No medium found"
[16:36] <ComradeHaz`> Hi all. I have a couple of sets of files that need to be merged, many files will be duplicates. I wish to merge the two sets. The directory structures are identicle and correct. Ideally I would merge by file hash and output to file a list of conflicts that I can manually resolve. I imagine rsync is the tool for this though am unable to figure this out for myslf, can anyone help, please?
[16:36] <DrGamut> tomodachi, don't you mean the "separate x screen" option? because that's what I just did, but now I have no desktop session on the 2nd screen. Just a context menu and a background.
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> _cb: possibly but yes LDAP is a great tool for managing users and systems
[16:36] <l33_> hi
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> BrixSat: last time you used it then unplugged it, what steps did you take?
[16:37] <nathanel> dr_willis: it works through sudo -u $SUDO_USER
[16:37] <BrixSat> ActionParsnip:  i never used on linux, first time
[16:37] <BrixSat> ActionParsnip:  neither widnowd now recognizes it
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> BrixSat: did you last use it in Windows?
[16:37] <BrixSat> ActionParsnip: yes
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> BrixSat: so, how did you unplug it. What did you do?
[16:38] <BrixSat> i copied the file to desktop and safe remove :)
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> BrixSat: does windows give the option to format it in disk manager?
[16:39] <BrixSat> ActionParsnip:  no, windows does not recognize as pen neither as any decent usb device
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> BrixSat: sounds like its damaged then, if no OS is picking it up.
[16:40] <BrixSat> ActionParsnip:  but ubuntu list's the device under lsusb
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> BrixSat: ok can you run:  sudo fdisk -l     and pastebin the output using http://pastebin.com
[16:41] <InsektO> hi all
[16:41] <BrixSat> ActionParsnip:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/697370/
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> BrixSat: ok and pastebin the output of:  dmesg | tail -n 10
[16:43] <BrixSat> ActionParsnip:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/697371/
[16:44] <sburwood1> Is there a way to "trick" ubuntu 11.04 into printing in black if the color cartridge is empty?
[16:44] <sburwood1> of course, the black cartridge is full
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> BrixSat: are there any sort of switches or buttons on the device/
[16:45] <BrixSat> ActionParsnip:  nop
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> BrixSat: if you boot with the device inserted is it better? It may show up in lsusb which means the controller in the device is ok, but the memory storage may be screwed
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> BrixSat: 2 OSes not seeing it isn't a good sign
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> BrixSat: if all else fails. Put it on a strongish battery on each side for a few mins to blank it, made one of mine work just dandy
[16:48] <BrixSat> ActionParsnip:  the see it under disk mangement but wont work with it
[16:48] <BrixSat> what is a strongish bat?
[16:51] <BrixSat> ActionParsnip: what is a strongish bat?
[16:54] <ianjm> hello all; have been looking for a way to move an _existing_ root partition to a USB stick and make it boot, am not sure how to do it, if i just install grub on the usb stick after i copy the root partition is this going to work, does anything special need doing?
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> BrixSat: not battery sorry, magnet
[16:56] <BrixSat> hooo :)
[16:57] <kblin> hi folks
[16:57] <BrixSat> thks
[16:57] <Polah> ActionParsnip, he said a pendrive. Magnets would only really be effective on a disk drive
[16:57] <kblin> first of all, "eva" is a spambot, please kick it
[16:58] <kblin> secondly, is there any place where I can still get jaunty packages from?
[16:59] <kblin> in specific, I need armv5 jauntu packages
[16:59] <DrGamut> dr_willis, tomodachi: I figured it out. Gnome shell loads fine on separate x screens, unity does not. It's a confirmed bug.
[17:00] <aveng3r> Is there any way of update my Xorg drivers on ubuntu to a newer version?
[17:00] <Tophan> apt-get install xorg?
[17:00] <Tophan> j/k  idk
[17:01] <arkiver> hello i need some help with my ubuntu
[17:01] <auronandace> !latest | aveng3r
[17:01] <aveng3r> Tophan: this doesn't solve the problem, the version is to old
[17:01] <arkiver> it crashed!
[17:01] <arkiver> i was trying to switch on a feature from compiz and on activating it, it suddenly hanged,
[17:02] <aveng3r> ubottu: I know, but that version of intel driver is crashing running our games
[17:02] <genii-around> aveng3r: There is an xorg-edgers ppa, but use at your own risk
[17:02] <arkiver> and on restart, it hangs and the sidebar (ubuntu unity) or the top bar doesnt appear
[17:02] <aveng3r> SO I need to update dri drivers
[17:04] <Polah>  arkiver: We need more details... What version are you using, what feature are you trying to enable and so on...
[17:05] <vassie> hello, can someone help me setup a very simple samba share on ubuntu server?
[17:05] <arkiver> i am using ubuntu 10.04 (unity)
[17:05] <arkiver> i was trying to turn on a feature which enables cube windows and then it asked me if i wanted to enable desktop wall
[17:05] <arkiver> i denied permission
[17:06] <arkiver> and then it just hung up, on restart, only my icons appearing nothing else.. !
[17:07] <arkiver> Polah, Is the info enough?
 hii sexx http://camera-msn.net.ms   <---- onjoin
[17:08] <douf-nufem> hey guys
[17:08] <douf-nufem> i have a question about resizing my paritions
[17:09] <douf-nufem> i have a windows xp part, and an ubuntu part. I need to take space from my ubuntu part and give it to my win xp part, is there a way i can do this with out dataloss?
[17:09] <auronandace> ikonia: i thought `mOOse` posted that, isn't he the one that should be kicked?
[17:09] <`mOOse`> derp
[17:10] <vassie> if i set the smb security to user any folder i create in windows is owned by root:vassie, but setting it share and new folders are owned by vassie:vassie, which is correct?
[17:10] <ikonia> auronandace: no, he didn't
[17:10] <Maarten> douf-nufem: sure, just use gparted. But as with ANY partition resizer, there is ALWAYS a risk. It's a small risk only, but it is wise to make a backup first of data on both partitions.
[17:10] <auronandace> ikonia: ah, sorry, he was quoting
[17:10] <ikonia> auronandace: not a problem
[17:11] <yeats> vassie: you should probably ask in #samba
[17:11] <hylian> what software would i do to troubleshoot hard drive error? I need to save the files. the drive checks out, so i think it's the file allocation table...
[17:11] <vassie> yeats: will do
[17:12] <sburwood1> Anyone wanna help me with a printer question?
[17:12] <hylian> !ask | sburwood1
[17:13] <douf-nufem> Maarten when I do it should i shrink the ubuntu partion, let it run, then resize the windows part, or should I do them all as a single operation?
[17:14] <arkiver> I'd like to put up my questoin again, I use ubuntu (10.04) and was trying to turn on a 'cube window ' feature of some sort i dont properly remember from Compiz. So after turning it on, a pop up came asking me if i wanted to enable something called desktop wall, i denied permission and then another pop up and i denied permission without reading what it was . and then suddenly my pc hanged, upon restart, only my icons on my desktop appear, nothing else. Wh
[17:14] <arkiver> at do i do to recover my OS?
[17:14] <sburwood1> I want to print something out in black.  My color cartridge is empty and I get a message that the printer is not connected - probably for the color cartridge problem.  What can I do to print in black?
[17:14] <knobydobs> catalyst doesnt seem to want to recognise my gpu - neither does aticonfig and fglrxinfo returns segmentation fault
[17:14] <aartist> I see the network information as 'blocks' rather than in English. How do you solve it?
[17:14] <Maarten> douf-nufem: In gparted, you can "batch" the operation.... you first shrink the ubuntu partition, then increase the windows partition, and then hit "apply", and it will do those in that order.
[17:15] <douf-nufem> cool
[17:15] <douf-nufem> thank you
[17:15] <douf-nufem> take care guys
[17:15] <Adriannom> hi.  best (easiest?) way of implementing roaming profiles?  maybe symlink /home to /local/home, sync the two, then mount the home dir on the server over the /home symlink?  will that even work without any problems?
[17:15] <douf-nufem> i gotta take the risk -.- i dont have enough media laying around to back up the hard drive
[17:15] <douf-nufem> welp, wish me luck
[17:15] <douf-nufem> take care guys
[17:15] <l33_> c u later
[17:16] <hylian> sburwood1, once you hit print, the print dialogue that comes up usually has an option section for your printer. you can choose black and white usually. If it's an image, you can open it and remove all the color with an image editor
[17:16] <hylian> what software would you suggest for fixing a hard drive with file allocation table or mbr issues?
[17:17] <Nilzie> whats the default irc client in ubuntu?
[17:17] <Nilzie> hylian, google fixmbr linux
[17:17] <auronandace> Nilzie: xchat
[17:18] <bampersand> hey guys when i install the additional nvidia drivers on boot i get a black screen (after i see the ubuntu 11.04 and dots showing that it's loading), this only hapens when i install the add. driver, i've tried the nomodeset but i get random pixels over the screen, basically the same as this guy, http://askubuntu.com/questions/41681/blank-screen-after-installing-nvidia-restricted-driver
[17:18] <bampersand> i can provide logs etc, just ask.
[17:18] <devil2005> i have an amd computer and i need a live cd downlaod for it, which one is the best?
[17:18] <hylian> Nilzie, thanks, i'll do that. what is the possibility that I will lose the data using that app?
[17:19] <thorn> help help help. I'm under the weather, not sharp as usual. Anyways, I'm having constant trouble with wireless, and the brother printers here in my office. Any help?
[17:19] <io> devil2005: which what is the best?
[17:19] <mim> can anyone help with setting up webcam on ubuntu?
[17:19] <devil2005> i burned the i386 one and it didnt work on my amd computer
[17:20] <knobydobs> mim, what with?
[17:20] <mim> webcam doesnt work
[17:20] <io> devil2005: then use the -amd64 version
[17:20] <mim> i am new to linux
[17:20] <io> !alternative > devil2005
[17:20] <io> !webcam > mim
[17:20] <sburwood1> hylian: Thx, I will try that
[17:20] <knobydobs> mim, what program do you want it to work with
[17:21] <sburwood1> mim: So am I
[17:21] <mim> thnx
[17:21] <devil2005> does alternate mean live cd?
[17:22] <Nick2889> Hey guys, just a quick question, I'm having issues with my USB live drive. The laptop loads and everything up until the Ubuntu screen with the five dots underneath it (loading main screen) but won't go beyond that.
[17:22] <mim> so if my webcam isnt supported there is nothing i can do?
[17:22] <Nick2889> Does anyone have any insight as to why this would happen?
[17:23] <mim> i am using cheese
[17:24] <mim> but i need it for online chat
[17:24] <devil2005> are all AMD processors 64bit?
[17:24] <mim> camera led lits up but screen is blank
[17:24] <genii-around> devil2005: The geodes aren't
[17:24] <auronandace> devil2005: no
[17:24] <Nick2889> No they aren't all 64-bit. And if the camera is not supported, it can still light up.
[17:25] <devil2005> ubuntu only had amd64 downloads though
[17:25] <Adriannom> what's the best (easiest?) way of implementing roaming profiles?  maybe symlink /home to /local/home, sync the two, then mount the home dir on the server over the /home symlink?  will that even work without any problems?
[17:25] <auronandace> devil2005: and i686
[17:25] <elb0w`> How can I sudo to become another user?
[17:26] <knobydobs> fglrxinfo is returning segmentation fault
[17:26] <llutz> elb0w`: man sudo (-u user)
[17:26] <devil2005> is i686 is the 32 bit version of amd?
[17:26] <mim> is there any way to make unsupported cam to work on ubuntu 11
[17:26] <auronandace> devil2005: for 32 bit processors (whether amd or intel)
[17:27] <thorn> help help help. I'm under the weather, not sharp as usual. Anyways, I'm having constant trouble with wireless, specifically wireless usb, and the brother printers here in my office, I can't find any repository drivers for. Any help?
[17:27] <devil2005> so to get it stright, i386 is for intel, amd64 is for 64bit amd and i686 is for 32bit intel and amd ?
[17:27] <ikonia> thorn: that sounds like a bad mix.
[17:27] <ikonia> devil2005: there is only really x86 (32bit amd/intel and x86_64 64bit amd/intel)
[17:28] <ikonia> devil2005: ix86 is 32bit  amd64 is intel/amd 64bit
[17:28] <auronandace> devil2005: i386 is 32bit amd64 is 64bit (that applies to both intel and amd)
[17:28] <xbuntu> is there away to upgrade to 64 bit without uninstall ubuntu?
[17:28] <Polah>  devil2005: No. i686 is 32-bit, amd64 is 64-bit. amd64 is NOT AMD-only 64-bit
[17:29] <bastidrazor> xbuntu: you can not upgrade 32bit os to a 64bit os
[17:29] <xbuntu> mmk
[17:29] <xbuntu> jw
[17:29] <devil2005> thats is really confusing...
[17:29] <Snicksie> a reinstallation should work though xbuntu :)
[17:29] <xbuntu> Its fine lol im set on 32 bit system :P
[17:29] <xbuntu> I can prolly run 64
[17:30] <xbuntu> msi gt 660 computer intel i7
[17:30] <xbuntu> :P
[17:30] <devil2005> amd64 would work fine in booting a 64 bit intel machine then?
[17:30] <llutz> devil2005: just confusing names, read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64 for some background
[17:30] <auronandace> devil2005: yes
[17:30] <Polah> devil2005: Yes.
[17:30] <bastidrazor> xbuntu: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i lm   ..if you get output your processor can handle a 64bit OS
[17:30] <xbuntu> it can bast
[17:30] <xbuntu> lol
[17:31] <xbuntu> its core i7.. it has 8 logical cores
[17:31] <Snicksie> devil2005, that works just fine :)
[17:32] <devil2005> so if i had an amd athalon and i wanted it to boot a live cd, i woudl downoad the amd64-alternate ?
[17:32] <auronandace> devil2005: if your athlon is 64bit then use the amd64
[17:32] <devil2005> i dont know if it is or not  <:/
[17:33] <dr_willis> then stick with 32bit.
[17:33] <devil2005> which would be which download?
[17:33] <xbuntu> so bast i just did the cmd that u told me to do
[17:33] <dr_willis> the non amd64 ones.. :)
[17:33] <xbuntu> what am i lookin up :P
[17:33] <devil2005> well i downoaded and burned the live cd i386 and it gave me an error
[17:33] <devil2005> like "boot cd"
[17:33] <auronandace> devil2005: if ever unsure just use the i686 (it works on both 32 and 64)
[17:34] <devil2005> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate
[17:34] <devil2005> there is no i686 there
[17:34] <xbuntu> whats the command to see your processor
[17:34] <xbuntu> if there is one
[17:34] <dr_willis> why are you usign the alternavie one anyway devil2005 ?
[17:35] <llutz> xbuntu: lscpu
[17:35] <genii-around> xbuntu: sudo lshw -C cpu
[17:35] <devil2005> is altrernative live cd? i need a live cd because i dont have a HDD
[17:35] <dr_willis> devil2005:  and why do you think theres a 686? the 386 will do..
[17:35] <dr_willis> the alternative is NOT a live cd...
[17:35] <dr_willis> you want the desktop cd.
[17:35] <auronandace> dr_willis: sorry, my mistake regarding the 686
[17:36] <dr_willis> http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[17:36] <xbuntu> devil
[17:36] <xbuntu> are u on ubuntu now
[17:36] <xbuntu> ?
[17:36] <xbuntu> or windows
[17:37] <xbuntu> im geussing windows or something
[17:37] <xbuntu> CPU op-mode(s):        32-bit, 64-bit
[17:37] <xbuntu> CPU(s):                8
[17:37] <Stealth_Creation> Need some help with getting my Ubuntu machine to show up on  a Windows network
[17:37] <xbuntu> thats my cpu
[17:37] <devil2005> okay, ill get that. so to make sure , i have an amd athalon and im unsure if it is 32 bit or 64 bit. so i download the i386 desktop to get the live cd right?
[17:37] <dr_willis> devil2005:  thats the 32bit desktop. yes..
[17:37] <xbuntu> so i can run 32 and 64 right? cause this is what it says
[17:37] <xbuntu> CPU op-mode(s):        32-bit, 64-bit
[17:37] <xbuntu> CPU(s):                8
[17:38] <Pici> !paste | xbuntu
[17:38] <auronandace> xbuntu: yes the i7 supports both
[17:38] <devil2005> okay, how would i find out if i had a 64 bit supported machine? just google the processor?
[17:38] <dr_willis> devil2005:  thats one way.
[17:38] <devil2005> whats the normal way?
[17:38] <Co_H> Bloddy  hell. My sis just tried to reset the passwd my user account passwd from the failsafe terminal.  But that was the only valid command she wrote in the terminal
[17:38] <Co_H> But now, Ubuntu doesn't load
[17:38] <dr_willis> devil2005:  or get a 64bit cd and try it..
[17:38] <Co_H> I can't even reach the login page
[17:38] <Co_H> Whats up?
[17:39] <RubiksCube> hi
[17:39] <llutz> devil2005: grep " lm " /proc/cpuinfo   or lscpu
[17:39] <RubiksCube> can someone help me to get two screens working?
[17:39] <devil2005> okay i see. well i didnt know i386 worked on amd and amd64 worked on 64bit intel aswell as amd
[17:39] <dr_willis> llutz:  but he dosent have a cd yet. :) that i know of..
[17:39] <RubiksCube> I have an ATI card and am running the latest version of kubutu
[17:39] <dr_willis> devil2005:  amd64 does not mean 'amd specific' its means its '64bit'
[17:40] <devil2005> counter intuitive i think
[17:40] <dr_willis> the 64bit cpus are using the 'amd64 bit cpu extensions' i thinkis the proper phrase.
[17:40] <dr_willis> so thats why its called amd64
[17:40] <benoliver999> Hey - how stable would you say 11.10 is right now, for day to day use?
[17:40] <RubiksCube> oh
[17:40] <RubiksCube> I think I'm using 11.04
[17:40] <dr_willis> intels 64bit cpus are also using the amd64 extensions.
[17:40] <RubiksCube> not 11.19
[17:40] <RubiksCube> *11.10
[17:40] <FloodBot1> RubiksCube: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:40] <auronandace> !11.10 | benoliver999
[17:40] <RubiksCube> in case that makes a difference
[17:41] <devil2005> oh i see, so intel uses amd for its 64 bit operations#?
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> RubiksCube: type lsb_release -a to find out
[17:41] <dr_willis> devil2005:  i belive thats correct. youmay want to check the various wiki pages on the topic.
[17:41] <RubiksCube> yes, 11.04
[17:41] <arkiver> how to reset COMPIZ through the command line?
[17:41] <RubiksCube> does that make a difference in getting both screens working?
[17:42] <dr_willis>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> arkiver: gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz && compiz --replace <enter>
[17:42] <devil2005> to make sure then, "desktop" IS the live cd
[17:42] <narval> My network failed while upgrading packages. These packages are now shown with "apt-get upgrade", and "apt-get install -f" shows no result. What to do?
[17:43] <dr_willis> arkiver:  i think that  command can differ for 11.04 and 10.x also.
[17:43] <arkiver> MonkeyDust: Thanks alot ill try it out
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> narval: try booting in recovery and select 'repair'
[17:43] <rkhshm> all of a sudden my wifi has died and ifconfig does not show any wifi interfaces at all.
[17:43] <dr_willis> arkiver:  the webupd8 blog site had a artical on resetting compiz and unity back to defaults.
[17:43] <arkiver> dr_willis, i use ubuntu 10.04
[17:43] <rkhshm> i'm however able to connect via ethernet
[17:43] <rkhshm> any ideas?
[17:43] <rkhshm> on troubleshooting
[17:44] <nixmaniack> how do i reset Compiz from command line to its default settings? I have messed up compiz and nothing is shown up now except some icons on desktop.
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> nixmaniack: gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz && compiz --replace <enter>
[17:44] <nixmaniack> MonkeyDust, okay thanks
[17:45] <bampersand> hey guys i'm running ubu 11.04 and nvidia geforce 9800gt, basically when i install drivers on boot i either get a black screen or random pixels and characters all over the screen.
[17:48] <RubiksCube> is it worth reiterating mysef or is that just spamming? :P
[17:51] <amin`> is there a way for "show desktop" in xmonad?
[17:53] <aeon-ltd> amin`: i'd assume not, the idea of tiling is that there is no dock or bar to minimize to; i can't confirm this for xmonad though since you can use it in conjuction with other DEs
[17:54] <scwizard> if I want to a script to scp to change another box's hosts file, is it better to change the permissions of the hosts file or to scp as root?
[17:55] <ikt> can someone tests how the audio sounds on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qqR4wp3wog
[17:55] <ikt> whether it's to loud
[17:56] <ikt> also does anyone know why my audio goes scratchy and echoey and horrible in video editiors but is fine normally?
[17:56] <salvatore> hello, anyboby knows why unity sidebar wont save my launcher on reboot?
[17:56] <ikt> what do you mean salvatore ?
[17:56] <Bish> how do i change the behavior of the "autokonfigurator" of apt-get.. a.e when i install phpmyadmin, he tries to login to root@localhost(mysql) and this failes, since i changed the username
[17:57] <roxane> hello. i have a problem with my skype. others cant hear what i am saying but they can hear my music. any ideas?
[17:57] <mang0> roxane: Check your input settings
[17:58] <roxane> mang0: can you be more precise where?
[17:58] <mang0> roxane: sure, lemme open up skype real quick ;)
[17:58] <amin`> so there is not a use to set a desktop wallpaper in that case. but assume that xmonad support transparency at least?
[17:58] <roxane> mang0: in skype the only choice i have is "PulseAudio server
[17:59] <amin`> aeon-ltd, ^^
[17:59] <bampersand> as i've said a few times (with no responses whatsoever) installing nvidia drivers makes my computer either black screen/random colours, but without the driver i'm unable to play games through wine/java, is there any way to play minecraft without installing the drivers?
[17:59] <Static> Hi, I have setup a Ubuntu server but it seems to sleep if I leave it a while. I have to touch a key on the computer's keyboard to get everything running again. How can I stop it from doing this?
[17:59] <mang0> roxane: There is also a setting in System > Preferances > Sound
[17:59] <scwizard_> ach my browser crashed, anyways lemme ask again
[17:59] <salvatore> i mean that if i save a launcher on my sidebar (right click + keep on launcher) when restart my pc all the launcher i saved i the last session are lost
[17:59] <scwizard_> if I want to write a script to scp to another box and change its hosts file
[18:00] <scwizard_> is it better to scp as root, or to change the permissions of the hosts file on the other box?
[18:00] <Bish> Am i somehow able to change the mysql user/password which apt-get uses to configure applications which are using databases ?
[18:00] <heoa_> there is no /mnt for mounted USB drives etc?
[18:00] <DocPlatypus> anyone know how to authenticate a DVD movie from the command line (so I can copy the disc)?
[18:01] <Lasers_> DocPlatypus: You can't authenticate it yourself when you put the disc in yourself?
[18:01] <roxane> mang0: wait a second, i'll check there
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> heoa_: should be in /media
[18:01] <mang0> roxane: Sure. The other option is to make sure that there is no "mute" button checked on your mic itself, I've done that in the past!
[18:02] <roxane> mang0: thanks!
[18:02] <DocPlatypus> Lasers_: is it not necessary anymore? maybe I'm behind the times, does Ubuntu always do this automatically?
[18:02] <aeon-ltd> amin`: transparency? yes with a compositing manager doing that, though most terminals support transparency or at least thhe pseudo kind
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> Bish: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[18:02] <roxane> mang0: test call was working now.
[18:02] <mang0> roxane: No problem :)
[18:02] <Bish> ActionParsnip: read my question completely please, i changed my passwort on purpose
[18:03] <amin`> aeon-ltd, so in that case setting transparency doesn't really related to xmonad.hs and is a standalone matter. am i right or what?
[18:04] <heoa_> ActionParsnip: thank you, found it.
[18:04] <aeon-ltd> amin`: yes, though i've only used xmonad once (about a year ago). a while ago i used xcompmgr to get transparency though some users claim it's a little buggy
[18:05] <salvo> hi there anybody can help me?
[18:05] <Lasers_> DocPlatypus: If you're writing a script or something, you pretty much know if you're putting in a Movie DVD disc before you run the script. Otherwise, Gnome have their automounting stuffs that will mount DVD. Not sure what you're trying to accomplish.
[18:05] <salvo> i got a problem with natty sidebar
[18:05] <DocPlatypus> Lasers_: so that's done as part of the mount. that's what I thought
[18:05] <salvo> that wont keep the launchers that i save when restart computeer
[18:06] <scwizard> hello?
[18:06] <aeon-ltd> scwizard: yes?
[18:06] <scwizard> oh wierd, was having trouble talking for a bit
[18:06] <Lasers_> DocPlatypus: If script, do unmount it before you do something.
[18:07] <Niches> HI, I lost my pasphrase for my ubuntu home directory
[18:07] <amin`> aeon-ltd, yes i just installed it. about the bug I don't know. because using xmonad on server edition which has not much to mess with the transparency shouldn't cause much of a problem!
[18:07] <Niches> And I don't have access to it
[18:07] <Niches> How do I recover it
[18:07] <Mike9863> Can anyone point me to a tutorial on how to VPN through ssh?
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Niches: do you mean the encyption password?
[18:07] <scwizard> did people hear my quesiton before? or did it not get sent?
[18:07] <Niches> ActionParsnip: Yeag
[18:07] <pc600> When trying to run a cronjob with "cat" in it, I receive this error.  Runs fine from bash shell.   /bin/cat: /bin/cat: cannot execute binary file  ?
[18:07] <Niches> *yeah
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> scwizard: looks ok to me
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Niches: ok that's clearer
[18:09] <llutz> pc600: cat in cronjob? likely unneeded
[18:09] <scwizard> ActionParsnip: meaning you got the question I asked about scp, or it didn't get sent to the channel?
[18:09] <larsduesing> pc600: maybe the cronjob-user has no execute (x)-right? *almost unlikely, but...*
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> scwizard: it was received ok by the channel
[18:09] <scwizard> ok
[18:09] <pc600> llutz:  - I need it.  It reads a file and outputs it to parallel
[18:09] <DocPlatypus> Lasers_: no, it still has to fetch the keys somehow, it's not done as part of the mount like you say.
[18:10] <pc600> jars - Cronjob user doesn't run under teh same rights of the account it's in?  It's root.
[18:10] <DocPlatypus> I just tried it without, and I get all kinds of errors
[18:10] <scwizard> so yeah, I still don't know the answer, if someoen answered it maybe I missed it because my browser crashed
[18:10] <mang0> I'm looking for a "beep" noise, to use for xchat highlights. Where are the sounds stored in ubuntu?
[18:11] <Lasers_> DocPlatypus: You have libdvdnav/libdvdread installed?
[18:11] <Niches> My ubuntu system is broken and I can't access my data because its encrypted and I don't have the passphrase
[18:11] <Niches> and if I can;t recover it, my life is ruined
[18:11] <Niches> Any help is appreciated
[18:12] <Lasers_> mang0: Look in XChat Preferences.
[18:12] <Lasers_> (And he probably didn't make any backups either)
[18:12] <DocPlatypus> Lasers_: yes
[18:13] <mang0> Niches: Why don't you have the passphrase, why don't you have backups...
[18:13] <DocPlatypus> Niches: restore from backups, or use the copy of the passphrase you wrote down in case you forgot it.
[18:13] <RubiksCube> hi
[18:13] <RubiksCube> can someone help me?
[18:14] <Lasers_> Colourful: Pop the question.
[18:14] <Niches> Shucks, I am to be blamed. But is there anything which i can do to unecrypt the thing?
[18:15] <DocPlatypus> Niches: yeah, type in the right passphrase
[18:16] <TrueColors|ubunt> I just did... vi /etc/php5/cgi/php.ini ... I have edited it, now how do I save... xD
[18:16] <Lasers_> Niches: Just to clear things up. Home encryption? Full-system encryption? cryptsetup?
[18:16] <Colourful> Lasers_: dual monitors, 11.04, ati card, xfce, laptop
[18:16] <Niches> Lasers_: Just Home encryption...
[18:16] <wcchandler> Anybody have any luck with "Ubuntu Friendly?"
[18:17] <Lasers_> TrueColors|ubunt:   ":w"
[18:17] <Colourful> *dual monitors in
[18:17] <Lasers_> TrueColors|ubunt: ":wq" -- Write and quit.
[18:18] <TrueColors|ubunt> that ends up being typed in to the document though...
[18:18] <Niches> FYI, I don;t have thepassphrase
[18:19] <oCean> TrueColors|ubunt: first hit <esc>, then :x!  to save-and-exit
[18:19] <Jasonn> Is there any way to resize partitions without formatting?
[18:20] <TrueColors|ubunt> Cannot open file for writing ...
[18:20] <TrueColors|ubunt> :(
[18:20] <Lasers_> Jasonn: Use gparted -- but you should use LiveCD if you plan to resize the one you're on right now.
[18:20] <Jasonn> Lasers: I am using ubuntu server
[18:20] <Jasonn> Lasers: so I would need a command or something :3
[18:20] <ubuntu_> siema
[18:21] <ubuntu_> jest ktos z polski??
[18:21] <oCean> !pl | ubuntu_
[18:22] <io> !resize > Jasonn
[18:22] <Guest31065> can i ask ubuntu 11.10 beta related questions here?
[18:22] <Guest31065> beta2
[18:22] <Lasers_> Jasonn: Not to lead you off -- but have you tried researching it on Google? Also, raw partition management sucks. Use LVM if you have lot of hard drives.
[18:22] <Lasers_> Guest31065: #ubuntu+1
[18:22] <Jasonn> !google Lasers_
[18:22] <Jasonn> :3
[18:23] <Jasonn> !googleit
[18:23] <asteve> how is cron.d acted on? is it ready checked every minute? can I place two cron times in a single file and place it inside cron.d?
[18:23] <llutz> asteve: you can
[18:23] <dweez> Gparted is just a GUI frontend for parted
[18:23] <Colourful> anyone? :(
[18:24] <dweez> and I've used GParted a lot to resize partitions without losing data (mostly wwindows partitions
[18:24] <dweez> Colourful, I didn't catch your question
[18:24] <Colourful> wondering how to get dual monitors working
[18:24] <Colourful> my setup is; laptop with ati card, 11.04, xfce
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead
[18:25] <Static> Hi, I have setup a Ubuntu 10.10 Server but it seems to sleep if I leave it a while. How can I stop it from doing this?
[18:25] <Colourful> ActionParsnip: thanks, I'll have a look there
[18:26] <Colourful> !Zinerama
[18:26] <Colourful> !Xinerama
[18:26] <dweez> ubottu seems very helpful
[18:27] <dweez> anyway to see a list of his/her/its triggers?
[18:27] <oCean> dweez: http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[18:28] <dweez> bookmarked, thanks oCean
[18:31] <TrueColors|ubunt> I Had gksudo gedit,when I close gedit with the X ... it still runs gksudo ?
[18:31] <TrueColors|ubunt> how can I ... close gksudo ?
[18:32] <Static> Hello, I have setup a Ubuntu 10.10 Server but it seems to sleep if I leave it a while. How can I stop it from doing this?
[18:33] <Mike9863> How can I connect to a VPN over SSH?
[18:34] <konaya> Mike9863, depends on what VPN protocol is in use.
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> TrueColors|ubunt: sudo -k    may do it
[18:34] <Mike9863> konaya: Do you know of one that supports SSH connections? It looks like the default one under the network manager doesn't seem to offer the option.
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Mike9863: you can ssh over vpn
[18:34] <fester-> dadm: fail to stop array /dev/md0: Device or resource busy -> what do i have to do?
[18:35] <Mike9863> ActionParsnip: I'm trying to connect to a VPN through SSH
[18:35] <konaya> Mike9863, most VPN protocols worth their salt supports adequate encryption in themselves.
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Mike9863: this maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH_VPN
[18:36] <rodrigo> a
[18:36] <rodrigo> safds
[18:36] <rodrigo> fdsdsfhgfdgfd
[18:36] <rodrigo> dgfdgsdfgfdsg
[18:36] <rodrigo> dfgfdgfd
[18:36] <rodrigo> fdgfdgfd
[18:36] <rodrigo> gdfgfd
[18:36] <FloodBot1> rodrigo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Mike9863: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/vpn-tunnel-through-ssh-152272/
[18:36] <rodrigo> dfgfdDñkj g
[18:36] <rodrigo> fs lkjfdag
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> fairly pointless
[18:37] <Mike9863> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[18:37] <BetaArk> Hi! I cannot boot the Ubuntu Natty amd64 iso with UEFI.. what I'm I doing wrong? I only get a blank screen.. If I set it to BIOS the live-cd loads fine
[18:37] <rhin0> anyone know the location of openbox files -- mounted xp (for example) volume
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> BetaArk: did you MD5 test the ISO?
[18:39] <rhin0> virtualbox
[18:39] <rhin0> thats why I cn't find it
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=15868
[18:40] <rhin0> ok thanks ActionParsnip
[18:40] <BetaArk> ActionParsnip: Yes, it is the same. Also I can boot the live-cd in normal BIOS mode, but not inside UEFI. I also tried the newest (daily) iso, but no difference, still cannot boot with UEFI :S
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> BetaArk: what video chip do you use?
[18:41] <BetaArk> I have Optimus system, Intel HD + nVidia chipset
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> BetaArk: oh jeez, no idea then
[18:41] <BetaArk> ActionParsnip: Tried also with nouveau.modeset=0, but again.. just a blank 'hanging' screen :(
[18:42] <StepNjump> actionparsnip, you got my  message about printer was connected in the phone plug? lol
[18:42] <BetaArk> So maybe giveup UEFI?
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> BetaArk: possibly:  nouveau.blacklist=1   that optimus stuff is a real headache. all I can suggest is try and disable the intel so you only have nvidia running
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> BetaArk: its the optimus thinig. I've never seen a success story with it
[18:44] <BetaArk> ActionParsnip: You have right, going to try it. Thanks :)
[18:44] <BetaArk> ActionParsnip: Hate optimus btw. :(....
[18:44] <ThomasBerends> Hi, how can I get Gnome 2 (classic desktop) @ Oneiric?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> ThomasBerends: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Oneiric until release day
[18:45] <Static> Hello, I have setup a Ubuntu 10.10 Server but it seems to sleep if I leave it a while. Then, obviously, my servers stop responding. How can I stop it from doing this?
[18:45] <kaushik_> is there any way to increase the size of ubuntu partition which is installed using wubi?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> kaushik_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1625371
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Static: have you asked in #ubuntu-server
[18:47] <orated> How to pipe dd to bzip2 to split?
[18:47] <Static> ActionParsnip: No, I'll go ask there now. Thanks
[18:47] <kaushik_> no i have not asked in #ubuntu-server
[18:48] <ska> Does anyone else have problems viewing this page http://agency.governmentjobs.com/leecounty/default.cfm       ?
[18:48] <kaushik_> i am asking now a
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> ska: blank here
[18:48] <ska> On 10.0.4 with FF 3.6.22+ I can't see it at all. No source.
[18:48] <ska> nada.
[18:48] <kaushik_> and i am also going through the link , thanks ActionParsnip
[18:49] <ska> ActionParsnip: ok, good.. well bad.. but what fix if any?
[18:49] <martin_> hmm
[18:49] <orated> or atleast piping bzip2 to split?
[18:49] <BetaArk> Question: Should I skip UEFI + GPT? And just do a MBR + BIOS mode installation?
[18:49] <BetaArk> Does it makes any speed difference?
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> ska: not sure, is the site experiencing difficulties?
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> BetaArk: not to the OS, no
[18:50] <ska> ActionParsnip: no, it shows up ok on an OSX system..
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> ska: what browsers have you tried?
[18:50] <BetaArk> ActionParsnip: So only in the boot time? So not while running programs, etc.? (I have a SSD)
[18:50] <scarleo> Hi, I have an unfinilized cd-rom with images on that I want to try to recover. It's unmountable so how can I read from it?
[18:51] <oCean> ska, ActionParsnip, I get a "The server encountered an internal error and was unable to complete your request."
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> oCean: mines a complete blank, no error
[18:51] <ska> oCean: maybe there is a "cold fusion" pluggin" that we dont have.
[18:51] <allowoverride> scarleo: there are forensics software you may wish to try, as well as disk-utility. anyone else?
[18:51] <allowoverride> scarleo: is it mouting?
[18:51] <oCean> ActionParsnip: couple of reloads, then the error returns. (including "JRun closed connection.")
[18:52] <oCean> ska: it's server-side
[18:52] <allowoverride> opps, you said unmounted.
[18:52] <scarleo> allowoverride, you saw it :) I have the tools but no access to disk
[18:53] <allowoverride> scarleo: does that cd mount on windows
[18:53] <ska> oCean: how did you get that message??
[18:53] <allowoverride> or a mac?
[18:53] <BetaArk> ActionParsnip: Sorry for all the questions :P Need to know this, if this is correct, I will switch to BIOS mode and use MBR. :D
[18:53] <oCean> ska: couple of page (re)loads, every 5 or so pageloads it shows the error
[18:53] <allowoverride> where did you get this mystery disk?
[18:53] <allowoverride> europe?
[18:53] <ska> oCean: ok... thanks.. I'm not sure what the problem is though. .cfm pages.. wierd
[18:54] <allowoverride> go finalize it on nero, i have no idea.
[18:54] <ska> Why can't they just use .html?
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> ska: go figure
[18:55] <scarleo> allowoverride, It doesn't mount anywhere, it is not finilized but from what I understand the data is on there. It is made in Nero on windows
[18:55] <scarleo> ...and maybe it will mount in Nero but non o my 5 PC have that other OS
[18:56] <TrueColors|ubunt> tried to create a file with vi, what is: E353: Nothing in register " ?
[18:57] <BetaArk> ActionParsnip: Oke, going to switch to MBR :D
[18:57] <BetaArk> So I can install Ubuntu without any probs :D
[19:05] <scarleo> allowoverride, Ha! there is nero for linux! Downloading now.... :)
[19:07] <allowoverride> scarleo: i heard about that before. tried it, didnt work on ubuntu at the time, gave up. had other ways to burn dvd/cds, mainly cmdline
[19:08] <allowoverride> lemme know what happens
[19:08] <scarleo> oc
[19:08] <CyON> Hai !! all ,how to change the music theme in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[19:10] <CyON> Hai !! all ,how to change the music theme in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[19:11] <yeats> CyON: you'll need to ask about 11.10 in #ubuntu+1, but this may be relevant: http://titotheman.wordpress.com/2009/11/06/changing-startup-sound-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic/
[19:11] <yessir> does anyone know if there is a faster way to transfer files from one dir to another than rsync?
[19:11] <yessir> I have 2 raid's consiting of 6 discs each and its only going 50mb/s hehe
[19:11] <yeats> yessir: not that I'm aware of - it just takes as long as it takes ;-)
[19:12] <CyON> thanks yeats !!
[19:12] <yessir> ugh :/ the disc's read/write at 500mb/s each partition hehe
[19:12] <user__> thx
[19:17] <vader> holaa
[19:17] <vader> dudaaa
[19:17] <arooni-mobile> hi folks; for some reason chrome seems to be slower with loading pages than windows xp's chrome does (i have virtualbox; and chrome on guest windows xp loads pages wayyyy faster than on my native ubuntu).  how can i fix?
[19:19] <usuario> ola
[19:19] <usuario> ola, como te llamas?
[19:19] <yeats> !es | usuario
[19:19] <usuario> ola
[19:19] <usuario> alguien me hablaaas!!
[19:24] <domenico_> Ciao!
[19:25] <CyON> hai guys !! I have a ubuntu 11.10  installed on , one of my partition and now I want to install xp on my other partition..any one can help me !!
[19:25] <aldcor>  hey
[19:27] <aldcor> I was playing game in Windows 7 when suddenly my laptop shuted down. Now i'm not able to boot into Win. When I choose Win, it boots Ubuntu anyway. Win crashed. How to fix this?
[19:27] <zoned> i'm trying to get php mail() to work on ubuntu... can anyone help? first i ran a "sudo apt-get install sendmail" then i wrote a quick "mailtest.php" function which sends a test email to myself. the mail function takes about 1-2 minutes to complete, $result = 1, but i never receive the email.
[19:27] <Mneumonic> aldcor what game were you playing?
[19:27] <frequenzman> mimimi
[19:27] <frequenzman> ah!
[19:27] <aldcor> Mneumonic, portal 2
[19:28] <frequenzman> gentoo ist scheisse?
[19:28] <CyON> hai guys !! I have a ubuntu 11.10  installed on , one of my partition and now I want to install xp on my other partition..any one can help me !!
[19:28] <yeats> CyON: unfortunately, neither 11.10 nor Windows are supported in this channel
[19:28] <Mneumonic> aldcor are you sure you don't have a virus?
[19:29] <Mneumonic> A similar thing happened to my brothers computer while playing WoW
[19:29] <ubuntu_> hi has anyone used lubuntu 10.10 and what do they think
[19:29] <Mneumonic> turned out he had somehow gotten a virus and couldnt boot anymore
[19:29] <CyON> yeats so where I can find the solutions
[19:29] <Gentoo64> ubuntu_, its.. got lxde
[19:30] <yeats> CyON: you could try #ubuntu+1 for Ubuntu issues or ##windows for XP
[19:30] <aldcor> Mneumonic, i don't know about viruses. I was using it about week
[19:30] <zoned> i'm trying to get php mail() to work on ubuntu... can anyone help? first i ran a "sudo apt-get install sendmail" then i wrote a quick "mailtest.php" function which sends a test email to myself. the mail function takes about 1-2 minutes to complete, $result = 1, but i never receive the email.
[19:30] <CyON> yeats thanks
[19:31] <yeats> zoned: you might try asking in #sendmail?
[19:31] <aldcor> i guess repairing windows would be a case
[19:31] <llutz> zoned: sendmail is a monster, it needs "some" configuration to work. for your stuff, ssmtp/msmtp would be easier
[19:31] <Mneumonic> aldcor: yea i'd try to repair windows, and if it works I'd run a virus scanner and malware scanner
[19:32] <Twevle> Wow look at you guys. I can' tell you how proud I am of you all.
[19:32] <Mneumonic> ?
[19:32] <arooni-mobile> why do pages seem to load remarkably slower on ubuntu than they do on my windows xp guest (via virtual box)?
[19:32] <zoned> llutz, can you provide me a link? i've been reading stuff for an hour and i just don't really know the simplest way to make this work
[19:32] <Twevle> 15 years ago we could barely get 10 people together to work on linux.
[19:32] <zoned> i didn't think it would be very difficult
[19:33] <Twevle> maybe that was 20 years ago
[19:33] <Macelrick> I've officially went insane...Lol, i've got a DMG file that i'm trying to convert to an Iso..and i'm failing, epicly. Any advice?
[19:33] <h00k> Twevle: you can continue the praise in #ubuntu-offtopic if you'd like, but we keep chatter in this channel for support and questions :)
[19:33] <aldcor> 15 years ago Linux wasn't userfriendly :)
[19:33] <aldcor> at all
[19:34] <Twevle> ya, but it fit on 2 floppys!
[19:34] <Mneumonic> 15 years ago windows wasn't user friendly either
[19:34] <llutz> zoned: like this http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/10/21/sending-email-from-your-system-with-ssmtp/
[19:34] <scarleo> allowoverride, it installed fine on my opensuse box, now to try to finilize disk
[19:35] <allowoverride> scarleo: nero on suse? ok
[19:35] <Fen-> hmm any hint for software what i could use to take like 35gb HDD space as unallocated
[19:35] <llutz> Twevle: my first linux distro came on 50+ floppies, not very handy... but take this to #ubuntu-offtopic, this is support only
[19:35] <zoned> llutz, does ssmtp work with php's mail() ?
[19:35] <Fen-> to install win7 dualboot
[19:35] <llutz> zoned: it does
[19:35] <allowoverride> think i will chk ubuntu repo's for nero
[19:35] <Twevle> Though we did have respect for our elders then.
[19:35] <yeats> !gparted | Fen-
[19:36] <Fen-> ye thanks
[19:36] <allowoverride> prolly and rpm scraleo
[19:37] <arooni-mobile> how do i use opendns for every wireless/wired connectoin in ubuntu (without having to edit each connection separately)
[19:37] <llutz> arooni-mobile: edit dhclient.conf
[19:38] <arooni-mobile> llutz, wheres that located
[19:38] <Macelrick> Anyone? Dmg to Iso? Or any way to mount a DMG so i can set up a virtual box?
[19:39] <zoned> llutz, will i have to remove sendmail now that ssmtp is installed?
[19:39] <llutz> arooni-mobile: /etc/dhcp3,  uncomment lines like: prepend domain-name-servers  w.x.y.z
[19:39] <moah> hello #ubuntu, for VLC i need a audio device file, how can I find out which device file I am using (for example with audio recorder)?
[19:39] <llutz> zoned: better to get rid of it
[19:39] <Fen-> hmm wont allow me to unmount grr
[19:40] <arooni-mobile> llutz, theres nothing in /etc/dhcp3
[19:40] <Fen-> sda1 is the only partition and i cant resze it :S
[19:40] <llutz> arooni-mobile: find /etc/ -name dhclient.conf                          (sry i'm on debian here)
[19:40] <zoned> llutz, how can i find out all the mail servers that have been installed on this system and remove them? there may be others besides sendmail that i don't even know about (and i'm assuming there should only be 1 mails server installed right?)
[19:41] <yeats> Fen-: you'll need to do it from a live CD
[19:41] <Fen-> hmm
[19:41] <llutz> zoned: dpkg -l *mail* | grep ^i
[19:41] <Fen-> it wont break my current ubuntu installation still ?
[19:41] <Fen-> i hope
[19:42] <llutz> zoned: check the output
[19:42] <Fen-> basically ubuntu installer on and "try ubuntu" ?
[19:42] <yeats> Fen-: the ubuntu install disk has gparted on it - boot it up to try ubuntu and run it from there
[19:42] <zoned> llutz, run from where? '/' ?
[19:42] <yeats> Fen-: yes - exactly
[19:42] <llutz> zoned: wherever you want
[19:42] <dweez> Runing the LiveCD instance will not futz with your current install
[19:43] <dweez> oh, yeats already answered that
[19:43] <yeats> dweez: ;-)
[19:43] <dweez> hehe, I was away for a bit and didn't bother to read ALL the convo
[19:43] <dweez> mah bad
[19:43] <japro> are there some settings to tell the kernel that i can do more agressive disk caching? the new machine has lots of excess memory...
[19:43] <cyril0-9> Hi, openoffice.org do pdf1.4 only. How can I create pdf 1.7 with Ubuntu?
[19:44] <arooni-mobile> llutz, once i do that i would do prepend domain-name-servers 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220  for each server; then do i need to reboot?
[19:44] <zoned> llutz, looks like php-mail, procmail, sendmail-base, sendmail-cf .... where's ssmtp? and is ssmtp still the best solution? (i've read a lot of stuff about php pear, didn't know it was already on here)
[19:44] <tensorpudding> cyril0-9: why do you need 1.7
[19:44] <Fen-> yeats:  ok i will check it out brb
[19:44] <jack009> guys how  must  newbiz  configure his 11.04 to make him feel the power of linux
[19:45] <llutz> arooni-mobile: "prepend domain-name-servers 208.67.222.222  208.67.220.220"     add this line and restart networkmanager
[19:45] <mrryanjohnston> if I make changed to my resolve.conf, do I need to restart anythign other than init.d/networking?]
[19:45] <arooni-mobile> llutz, how do i restart network manager?
[19:45] <cyril0-9> tensorpudding: If I say why I need 1.7 , it is off topic (I have been almost kicked from ubuntu-fr) so I prefer to ask if yes or no there is a package for ubuntu who create 1.7
[19:46] <mrryanjohnston> I can't seem to ping www.google.com, and it isn't resolving an ip address for it, either
[19:46] <llutz> zoned: theres no "best" solution. but for just sending some mails msmtp/ssmtp are much better than a full-featured mta like sendmail/postfix/exim
[19:46] <scannedred> llutz: what is wrong with adding opendns to /etc/resolve.conf?
[19:46] <moah> does anybody know how to find out what device file "Audio Recorder" is using to record from the microphone?
[19:46] <llutz> arooni-mobile: sudo service networkmanager restart
[19:46] <mrryanjohnston> I type in ping www.google.com and nothing at all comes up, not even PING x.x.x.x (x.x.x.x) 56(84) bytes of data
[19:46] <llutz> scannedred: head -2 /etc/resolv.conf
[19:46] <tensorpudding> cyril0-9: possibly? it won't work on openoffice documents though
[19:47] <jack009> must configuration 11.04 WHAT
[19:47] <arooni-mobile> llutz, unrecognized service
[19:48] <cyril0-9> tensorpudding: in fact to communicate, I send pdf and I have learnt that some guy reject pdf older than 1.7
[19:48] <llutz> arooni-mobile: service --status-all                to get the name of the network-manager-thingy
[19:48] <alkafoo> cyril0-9: gs
[19:49] <cyril0-9> with GS it is only 1.3 and 1.4
[19:49] <tensorpudding> that's really obscure
[19:49] <zoned> llutz, i removed all all the mail clients so it should just be ssmtp now. now i try to run my mailtest, i get "sendmail: Cannot open mail:25
[19:49] <zoned> "
[19:49] <dweez> llutz, you have too much down time...you should be helping more people at once ;-)
[19:49] <tensorpudding> pdf readers are all going to support 1.4
[19:49] <tensorpudding> backwards compat and all that
[19:49] <alkafoo> cyril0-9: that's not my understanding
[19:50] <alkafoo> pdftk should manage it, too
[19:50] <llutz> zoned: have you configured ssmtp?
[19:50] <tensorpudding> cyril0-9: can you do pdf printing?
[19:50] <cyril0-9> alkafoo: In fact with the command given by ubuntu-fr it is only 1.3, and I don't know how to pdf 1.4, 1.5, 1.6 1.7
[19:51] <zoned> llutz, i set root=(blank)   hostname=mars (this was already set for me) and wasn't sure what to set mailhub= to? it defaulted to mail
[19:51] <Fratyr> Hi, anyone knows if there's an IRC channel for Xtreamer Ultra support? :)
[19:51] <alkafoo> cyril0-9: "to pdf"? =)  What exactly are you trying to do?
[19:51] <llutz> zoned: mailhub is the smarthost you send all your mail to
[19:52] <cyril0-9> alkafoo: I am trying to create file in pdf 1.7
[19:52] <alkafoo> Fratyr: chat.xtreamer.net
[19:52] <Fratyr> alkafoo: thanks, found it already. looks pretty dead
[19:53] <alkafoo> Fratyr: them's the brakes
[19:53] <Fratyr> okay.. if I've upgraded my grub and now upon the boot I get bootmgr is missing. is there any way to fix that? :)
[19:53] <zoned> llutz... i'm a bit confused... this is just a linode.com server...
[19:54] <moah> can anybody tell me how to find the device file for my microphone? I can use the microphone to record sound, but I need the device file to make it work with VLC.
[19:55] <shadow98> hey guys under places i setup ftp server...and it brings up firefox instead of file manager
[19:55] <Macelrick> should i just give up on the idea?
[19:55] <shadow98> anybody know how to fix this
[19:56] <llutz> zoned: if you want to send mails from php you have to choices: 1st you use a smarthost, send it all your mail and hes delivering all your outgoing mails for you. or 2nd you run a full featured mta to deliver it yourself.  1st can be done easily with ssmtp, 2nd needs a "real" mta like postfix/exim...
[19:56] <alkafoo> cyril0-9: http://superuser.com/questions/193791/batch-convert-pdf-versions#answer-194124
[19:57] <wenexx> hey there
[19:57] <Fen-> ok i am resizing
[19:58] <zoned> llutz, where do i find a smarthost that will deliver my mail?? not seeing much on google... and thanks for all your help thus far :)
[19:58] <llutz> zoned: you can use a gmail account
[19:58]  * ^Ciccios^ buonasera a tutti :)
[19:59] <Pici> !it | ^Ciccios^
[19:59] <zykotick9> Macelrick, be aware that not everything in a DMG may be convertable to iso -- but you might want to see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMG2IMG
[19:59] <_cb> I loaded ubuntu 11.04 desktop and then server. Want default bootup to be desktop but start-up manager does not seem to work.
[19:59] <^Ciccios^> Pici, thanks :P
[19:59] <Macelrick> you're shitting me..Lol, i so i downloaded this macosx for nothing?
[19:59] <cyril0-9> thanks alkafoo for the link.
[20:00] <h00k> Macelrick: please keep the language appropriate :)
[20:00] <cyril0-9> Oh, I see .exe. isn't it only for ms windows?!
[20:00] <Macelrick> Oh, sorry..Lol, just not in a good mood.
[20:00] <Macelrick> Spent 9 hours downloading this image, hoping it would work, only to see its a .dmg..
[20:01] <llutz> Macelrick: google for it, theres a perl-script to convert dmg->iso
[20:02] <Macelrick> Yeah, i googled for like an hour straight, all lead me to this "dmg2iso", which didn't work..
[20:02] <Macelrick> So i'm trying this iso buster program right now through wine.
[20:02] <Macelrick> I love linux...lol
[20:02] <curiousx> yeah! also in the repos there is a tool colled dmg2img
[20:02] <curiousx> p   dmg2img                                                                - Tool for converting compress dmg files to hfsplus images
[20:03] <bilygates> is it safe to install gnome-panel in oneiric?
[20:03] <wenexx> so, i have a cool screenshot of the new oneiric dash. Very beautiful BUT if the background is light its not possible to read anything there.... Why did no one noticed that?
[20:04] <Bennit> Hi!
[20:04] <curiousx> aloha!
[20:04] <Bennit> I got ubuntu 11.10 and I want to use the wirelss connection of my laptop to connect my desktop to the interwebz
[20:04] <Bennit> is this possible with ubuntu?
[20:04] <Macelrick> I'm gonna try it this way, if it doesn't work. I'm just gonna get an Iso
[20:04] <guntbert> !oneiric | bilygates
[20:05] <guntbert> Bennit: see ^
[20:05] <Polah> wenexx: Oneiric is still in development, make a report about it and maybe it'll be changed.
[20:05] <Polah> !oneiric | wenexx bilygates
[20:05] <Macelrick> Yeah, it should be, just takes some patience. Is it even registering your diver?
[20:05] <Bennit> (via an ethernet cable connection)
[20:05] <Bennit> guntbert: what does that have to do with wifi conn sharing? :p
[20:06] <shadow98> im using lucid by the way
[20:06] <llutz> !ics | Bennit
[20:06] <bilygates> @guntbert, polah i know what oneiric is, i know it comes with gnome3, i know it has classic fallback. i was curious if one could install gnome2 running beside gnome3. :)
[20:06] <Bennit> thanks ubottu
[20:06] <shadow98> so when i setup a places connection to an ftp server..when i go to places and click on the ftp site it launches firefox
[20:06] <Bennit> llutz*
[20:06] <zoned> llutz, if it was a gmail account, would i make mailhub=myuser@gmail.com ?
[20:07] <wenexx> of course. but the time is running out. the link above is where I can post the question?
[20:07] <shadow98> how can i fix this behavior..it did not use to do that..
[20:07] <llutz> zoned: read this to get an idea http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/10/21/sending-email-from-your-system-with-ssmtp/
[20:07] <guntbert> bilygates: but don't discuss oneiric here please
[20:07] <Polah> bilygates: GNOME2 is no longer supported, I think gnome-panel is a an implementation of the panels on GNOME3 rather than 2
[20:08] <wenexx> @Polah: where can we discuss oneiric?
[20:08] <llutz> Support in #ubuntu+1 , not here
[20:08] <llutz> oneiric^^
[20:08] <bilygates> oops, i'm sorry then
[20:09] <wenexx> oha! Thank you
[20:09] <Polah> wenexx: #ubuntu+1
[20:09] <wenexx> Thanks again
[20:12] <skegeek> What's the difference between buffered and cached memory?
[20:13] <Younder> skegeek, a cache is on your processor allowing faster memory access
[20:14] <dweez> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Cache#The_difference_between_buffer_and_cache
[20:14] <Younder> skegeek, a buffer is in memory allowing faster disk and network access. But still much slower than cached memory
[20:17] <Younder> skegeek, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cache http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_buffer
[20:18] <GTRsdk> how would someone setup a function for a spreadsheet program (LIbreOffice Calc) to use in multiple rows with different answers?
[20:19] <ethern0t> haiiloo
[20:19] <craigbass1976> This has been bugging me since I switched to ubuntu at about the dapper release...  How can I delete a particular host from ~/.ssh/knownhosts ?  They're all encrypted.
[20:20] <_cb> Have Ubuntu 11.04 desktop and server installed. Server booting by default. Trying to change boot order. Start-up Manager does not work, neither gedit /etc/default/grub any ideas (other than re-installing?)
[20:20] <llutz> craigbass1976: ssh-keygen -R hostname
[20:20] <alkafoo> GTRsdk: that depends on the function, doesn't it?
[20:20] <alkafoo> _cb: but you _can_ boot to the desktop version?
[20:20] <GTRsdk> alkafoo: Yeah, for example, I want to have the numbers in the 5 - 10 rows to be put into the 15th row.
[20:20] <_cb> alkafoo yes by using the down key to select it
[20:21] <zykotick9> _cb, if you installed server 2nd, boot server, then edit the default entry in /etc/default/grub then run "sudo update-grub"
[20:21] <skegeek> Hmm. My server memory is close to max with just nginx, fail2ban, and postfix running.
[20:22] <cyril0-9> Thanks alkafo foe the answer, it is what I was looking for :D
[20:22] <zykotick9> !atemyram | skegeek
[20:22] <_cb> zykotick9 done that several times but does not seem to work. Server is position 0, desktop position 4. Change the default but server still boots first
[20:23] <zykotick9> _cb, are you editing in desktop or server?  which did you install 2nd?
[20:23] <_cb> installed server 2nd, editing in desktop.
[20:23] <alkafoo> GTRsdk: be into?
[20:23] <zykotick9> _cb, server is in control of grub, you need to edit it's grub!
[20:24] <GTRsdk> alkafoo: I want the numbers to be added and then be put into the row
[20:24] <zykotick9> _cb, or reinstall grub from desktop
[20:24] <wplug_terryg> Anybody convert a vmware image to vbox Recently?
[20:24] <alkafoo> _cb: I haven't used GRUB2 much, but GRUB(1) had an option to specify which rule was default regardless of order
[20:24] <zykotick9> _cb, installing desktop and server seems foolish to me
[20:24] <curiousx> wplug_terryg: i did it
[20:24] <alkafoo> wplug_terryg: nope, maybe someone in #vbox
[20:25] <alkafoo> wplug_terryg: and you could always just cp/rsync/etc.
[20:25] <MichealH> Hi all, I installed Unity 2D... But it seems the launcher does not do its expected behaviour and just stays there, It does not hide! :/
[20:25] <Somelauw> Do I always need to explicitely unmount an external disk. Or does shutting down my computer work just as well?
[20:25] <curiousx> whit qemu, but doesn't work too good =P any way if you want you can try it
[20:25] <wplug_terryg> I know that vditool is no long available.  I been reading links w/o  anything concrete.
[20:25] <_cb> zykotick9 learning ldap and server. Also the pc kids use to play on my weekends. Any editors loaded by default in server?
[20:26] <wplug_terryg> cp/rsync? to convert one image format to another?
[20:26] <zykotick9> _cb, well vi for sure, probably nano as well
[20:26] <Zerpy> anyone that knows a good guide to setup an apache2 server with php support and so on Ubuntu?
[20:26] <curiousx> wplug_terryg: is the disk you want to convert a vmdk file ?
[20:26] <wplug_terryg> Yes
[20:26] <Somelauw> I don't want anything to become corrupt and especially not my fat32 filesystem.
[20:26] <zykotick9> Somelauw, so long as you're doing a proper shutdown it "should" unmount externals fine
[20:27] <curiousx> wplug_terryg: do not convert the image, Virtual Box can run it without problems
[20:27] <craigbass1976> llutz, thanks.
[20:27] <Tophan> ^
[20:27] <curiousx> i am talking about Virtual Box 4.1 version
[20:27] <wplug_terryg> curiousx: I compress even if it was once a multi-part image that I compressed in to one vmdk?
[20:27] <alkafoo> Zerpy: undoubtedly help.ubuntu.com
[20:28] <Zerpy> ty alkafoo
[20:28] <alkafoo> http://www.google.com/search?q=apache%20site%3Ahelp.ubuntu.com
[20:28] <KadirB> j java
[20:28] <wplug_terryg> curiousx: oops even if
[20:28] <wplug_terryg> curiousx I'll fire it up now.
[20:28] <^Mike> How can I delete CAs from chromium-browser? Diginotar appears to still be trusted.
[20:29] <curiousx> wplug_terryg: just when Virtual Box ask you for a new disk to create or if you want to use a existent disk choose "Use an existent disk" and brows in to your path and locate the vmdk disk
[20:29] <curiousx> ;)
[20:29] <curiousx> its work properly
[20:29] <wplug_terryg> curiousx ok will try that now thanx
[20:29] <curiousx> your wellcome
[20:31] <curiousx> i am not american =( i wish a be one xD becouse my inglish is not too good, but i do my best =)
[20:33] <wplug_terryg> curiousx: its going through a repair process and crashed
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> curiousx: come to england instead, we speak properly
[20:34] <wplug_terryg> curiousx: AutoFailover 18 badDriver
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> ^Mike: what are CAs?
[20:34] <llutz> ActionParsnip: certificate authorities
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> funky
[20:34] <^Mike> ActionParsnip: Certificate Authorities.
[20:35] <curiousx> wplug_terryg: doesn't work ?
[20:35] <^Mike> Mind-bogglingly, chromium-browser appears to continue to trust Diginotar.
[20:35] <llutz> those you cannot trust anymore
[20:35] <wplug_terryg> curiousx: Nah  I even went to the trouble of making sure vmware-tools was removed when I had the multi-part image compressed into one.
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> ^Mike: it may be in ca-certificates, have you searched your system for the domain? there may be a cert file of the same name
[20:36] <Hans123> Hi! I just installed Xubuntu 11.04 and now my xmodmap doesn't work anymore. It worked fine in 10.10. I want to change Ctrl and Alt-Key on the Left. http://pastebin.com/6twA7LP3
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> llutz: why not?
[20:36] <^Mike> ActionParsnip: Yeah, IIRC there was a security update to ca-certificates already, which is why I'm confused
[20:36] <curiousx> wplug_terryg: move the vmdk file into the "VirtualBox VMS" folder and then do waht i wrote you
[20:36] <curiousx> its will work properly i am sure
[20:36] <Somelauw> When I shutdown my windows, suddenly my harddrive started spinning while closing off windows. Then it stopped again, because my laptop halted.
[20:37] <curiousx> what is the version of VirtualBox you are runing ?
[20:37] <^Mike> yep: ca-certificates (20090814ubuntu0.10.04.1) lucid-security... SECURITY UPDATE: Blacklist "DigiNotar Root CA"
[20:37] <_cb> zykotick9 that worked. Thanks !
[20:37] <llutz> ActionParsnip: some of them were hacked
[20:37] <mang0> NIGHT NIGHT
[20:37] <wplug_terryg> curiousx: Yeah I have them in a separated folder
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> llutz: i see
[20:37] <sysadamin> quick question about bootup process.
[20:38] <curiousx> move in to the VirtualBox VMs" folder
[20:38] <sysadamin> (ushare in specific) despite being added using the update-rc.d command, ushare still wont launch at boot. i suspect it has somethign to do with tryign to launch before the network interface is up.
[20:38] <curiousx> i have more than one VMDKs disk runing i'll show you waith me a minute
[20:39] <PwnusMaximus> hi guys, i have a quick question about VPN and my little Ubuntu box back home
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> PwnusMaximus: ask away
[20:39] <PwnusMaximus> whats your preferred VPN server software and can i use such a service to bypass my schools firewall?
[20:39] <PwnusMaximus> (they block Linux Outlaws streaming here)
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> PwnusMaximus: could use www.hidemyass.com
[20:40] <^Mike> ActionParsnip, PwnusMaximus: Please don't, hidemyass is a terrible service that doesn't actually offer anonymity
[20:40] <tularis> hello
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> ^Mike: its just to get around school proxy, so is fine
[20:40] <tularis> i'd like to share you my last 3
[20:40] <^Mike> PwnusMaximus: If you don't actually need anonymity, then give'er
[20:40] <_cb> Have been looking at virtual-box and libvirt. Looks as if capabilities are pretty close. Assume libvirt ships with ubuntu server because it is open source. Am I correct? Trying to decide which one should I learn.
[20:40] <llutz> ^Mike: it does, if you respect their rules and the law
[20:41]  * ^Mike patpat llutz, "sure, sure"
[20:41] <PwnusMaximus> ^Mike: im not interested in being anonymous. i just want to stream Linux Outlaws and connect to Skype through my schools firewall. (and i have a Ubuntu box at home i was thinking i could install a VPN on)
[20:42] <^Mike> PwnusMaximus: in that case, it seems to fit your needs
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> ^Mike: you need to sell some tinfoil hats dude
[20:42] <^Mike> ActionParsnip: pfffffft, everyone knows your foil hat has to be made out of *lead* 9_9
[20:42] <curiousx> wplug_terryg: can you see it ? ---> http://img69.xooimage.com/files/0/4/c/curiousx_2-2d3179b.png http://img68.xooimage.com/files/4/b/4/curiousx-2d317ba.png
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> ^Mike: i wear zero hats.
[20:43] <tularis>  i'd like to share you my last 3day experience with ubuntu, first day i install ubuntu with desktop version, after some updates, i couldn't use my computer or reinstall Ubuntu-desktop. I then downloaded ubuntu-alternative, proceeded another one installation, computer worked for one day, and now can't boot up normally, i don't even get a boot screen ...
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> tularis: what video chip do you use/
[20:43] <tularis> ActionParsnip: wait a sec ><
[20:43] <tularis> please ><
[20:44] <antihoax> i'd like to share my first experience trying to install ubuntu: install disc said "Unknown error has occoured, exiting setup..."
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> ^Mike: the only reason I have a cloak is because I'm an ubuntu member :)
[20:44] <wplug_terryg> Yes curiousx: I see the files kioptix..  Are those all the files that I should have moved over?
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> antihoax: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[20:44] <bastidrazor> ^Mike: you can get a free cloak too.. ask in #freenode and they will give you one.
[20:44] <antihoax> disc wa ok
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> antihoax: how did you test it?
[20:45] <antihoax> boot from it
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> antihoax: means nothing
[20:45] <antihoax> then wanted to install
[20:45] <^Mike> bastidrazor: I already have one O.o
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> antihoax: the boot data may be ok but the remainder may be corrupted
[20:45] <curiousx> yeah! first what version of virtualbox you are runing on?
[20:45] <antihoax> it was not virtual
[20:45] <antihoax> :P
[20:46] <jluc_> Hello, Is there a way to copy from any source and paste in the terminal ?
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> antihoax: test the ISO you downloaded, it may be corrupted
[20:46] <curiousx> wplug_terryg: what version of virtualbox you are runing on?
[20:46] <Polah> jluc_: Ctrl+Shift+C/V to copy/paste from/to terminal
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> jluc_: yes that is default
[20:46] <jluc_> ok great !
[20:46] <antihoax> ActionParsnip<< its an earlier version i tried, 12 month ago
[20:47] <antihoax> donno if any other version would work
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> antihoax: you can also test the CD/USB consistency once it starts to boot
[20:47] <wplug_terryg> curiousx: 4.0.12r72916
[20:47] <tularis> ActionParsnip:  AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics, AMD Fusion Processor C-50 (1.0Ghz, 1MB L2, 1.0GHz FSB) 2.0GT/s
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> tularis: try the boot option:  nomodeset
[20:48] <tularis> ActionParsnip: i can't, i dont' have access to boot option ><
[20:48] <antihoax> ActionParsnip<< i guess it was some hardware driver/recognition error
[20:48] <antihoax> it simply didn't like my hardware
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> tularis: you do, its before the OS boots so as long as Grub is installed you can add them
[20:48] <tularis> ActionParsnip: that what i meant
[20:48] <tularis> ActionParsnip: i don't have the purple screen with grub
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | tularis
[20:48] <antihoax> it was an AMD thunderbird @ 1100MHz and 768MB sd-ram
[20:49] <tularis> ActionParsnip: the only thing i got is a my motherboard message
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> antihoax: thunderbirds are sweet
[20:49] <tularis> ActionParsnip: then a black screen
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> see the no modeset option above
[20:49] <skegeek> Woah. I actually only have 174MB free out of 512.
[20:49] <antihoax> do you recommend ati card for any linux?
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> tularis: you need to verify the CD as good so you know that the data isn't bad
[20:50] <curiousx> wplug_terryg: i have 4.1.2 but i think your version have support for VMDK, first move the VMDK file you want to virtaulize, in to the "VirtualBox VMs" folder
[20:50] <tularis> ActionParsnip: i md5 checked it
[20:50] <tularis> ActionParsnip: usb key is OK
[20:50] <john_rambo> Thunderbird has no sound  for new nail notifications
[20:50] <conntrack-> and then?
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> antihoax: I don't like them but their drivers are ok and the open drivers aren't too shabby
[20:50] <antihoax> i think i shouldn't get any nvidia chipset video card
[20:50] <wplug_terryg> curiousx: Yes done that
[20:50] <john_rambo> installled esound
[20:50] <_cb> ActionParsnip could it be that tularis grub is all messed up?  How would one test that?
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> tularis: ok that's good, MD5  BEFORE transferring so that you know  the data is ood
[20:51] <wplug_terryg> curiousx but there are two files a flat.vmdk file and a text file with the specs with a .vmdk extension
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> _cb: not sure on testing, but you can chroot to reinstall grub to the drive
[20:51] <curiousx> then create a new machine and when VirtualBox ask you for "Create a new disk" or "Use an existent disk" choose "Use an exsistent disk" and go into "VirtualBox VMs" folder and choose the vmdk
[20:51] <wplug_terryg> curiousx:vbox recognized the spec file as the image file
[20:52] <Polah> ActionParsnip: Do you really need to chroot? Couldn't you just use --root-directory to specify where /boot goes?
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> Polah: its the way I do it, I can only call it as I know it
[20:53] <wplug_terryg> curiousx: Yes I did as you have instructed to use an existing file.
[20:53] <curiousx> and was the VMDK in to the VirtualBox's folder ?
[20:54] <xpololz> Hello! I bought a new (3rd) monitor today, plus a DVI to DP cable, but I'm having problems setting it up. I got a ATI Radeon 5750 pro, and I'm running Ubuntu 11.4. When I try to activate it I get "Invalid settings". Is there anyone out there who can help me a little? :-)
[20:54] <curiousx> move both the text and the flat
[20:54] <curiousx> y try one and then the other one
[20:54] <wildc4rd> out of interest, researching something for a friend, what are the chances of getting Ubuntu to dual boot on an iMac?
[20:54] <tularis> i'm trying a recovery mode from the live USB
[20:54] <yrushi> Hello, how do I use network printing with ufw enabled?
[20:55] <curiousx> if problem persist i'll try with another image or i install the last VirtualBox's version
[20:55] <curiousx> wich is 4.1.2 i think so
[20:56] <llutz> yrushi: allow needed ports outgoing(515, 631,9100  depends on your setup)
[20:56] <tularis> ActionParsnip: i just started x from the recovery mode
[20:56] <tularis> it worked ...
[20:56] <curiousx> i think i have the Virtual Box's PPA if you want i can paste you wplug_terryg
[20:56] <wplug_terryg> curiousx: Ok I may try to rebuild it again from the split image that it was before
[20:56] <tjiggi_fo> wildc4rd, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPC
[20:57] <wplug_terryg> That would be the latest stable version?
[20:57] <wplug_terryg> curiousx: why not...
[20:57] <yrushi> which commands do you use to do that?
[20:57] <velory> if anyone using gedit-- anyone using any plugin for opening multiple files ?
[20:58] <KnightRider> hi. how can i deactivate F10 key in gnome-terminal? I already unchecked "Edit - Keyboard Shortcuts - Enable the menu shortcut key" but F10 opens still the menu. I have ubuntu 10.04 with unitiy desktop.
[20:58] <curiousx> don't you can get just one image disk, without compressing ? maybe this is the problem
[20:58] <tularis> why can't I access grub >< ????
[20:58] <tularis> i just got that god damn blackscreen
[20:59] <wplug_terryg> curiousx: Yeah I compressed from a multi-part image it was about 20 or so vmdks
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> tularis: get updated in recovery, see if it helps
[21:00] <tularis> ActionParsnip: i'll try that thx
[21:00] <curiousx> i converted a vmdk to a bin then to a vbox file but i have problems, try to find just one image it will be better
[21:00] <curiousx> this is the PPA i have ---> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:debfx/virtualbox
[21:00] <wplug_terryg> I had problems with a bin conversion as well
[21:01] <wplug_terryg> curiousx: ok will try be in communicato for a bit
[21:02] <VampsDaBeast> I seem to be having issues running a few game that when i exit a server they lock up. I am running the nvidia driver 270 on natty fully upgraded as i can see, and using Gnome. any ideas why this may happen
[21:03] <curiousx> ok dude good luck
[21:03] <wplug_terryg> curiousx: thanks later
[21:03] <curiousx> wplug_terryg: what is the operating sistem you are trying to emulate, maybe i can find it
[21:03] <wplug_terryg> curiousx: I have a licensed install of windows 7
[21:04] <alkafoo> oh yeah which license? =P
[21:04] <curiousx> oh! i see, is irreplaceable
[21:05] <curiousx> ok, good luck
[21:05] <VampsDaBeast> I seem to be having issues running a few game that when i exit a server they lock up. I am running the nvidia driver 270 on natty fully upgraded as i can see, and using Gnome. any ideas why this may happen
[21:05] <wplug_terryg> curiousx: Yes unfortunately;<
[21:06] <cdavis> Is there a file I can monitor to determine if my nic has dropped its link and then come back?
[21:06] <tularis> can anyone give me the name of the package for ati radeon drivers ?
[21:06] <tularis> (please :))
[21:06] <alkafoo> tularis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[21:07] <tularis> alkafoo: thx
[21:09] <jluc_> Plz How to know the current path ?
[21:10] <llutz> jluc_: echo $PATH
[21:10] <jluc_> thanks
[21:11] <jimubao> pwd
[21:11] <jimubao> jluc_: just type "pwd" in ur terminal
[21:11] <xbuntu> Can someone help me with real quick.. i added an options line to my alsa-base.conf and its for my model.. and i saved it and now my sound works through the right speakers but once i turn off my computer and turn it on
[21:11] <xbuntu> its like i have to force-reload it again
[21:11] <xbuntu> is there away to make it stick
[21:11] <jluc_> thanks jimubao : echo $PATH was the wanted command.
[21:12] <alkafoo> xbuntu: you have to do what?
[21:12] <xbuntu> i have to alsa force-reload
[21:12] <xbuntu> for it to work every restart
[21:12] <velory> what you guys using as text-editor ?
[21:13] <xbuntu> for what? for terminal?
[21:13] <curiousx> xoveruk2: me, nano
[21:13] <xbuntu> gedit
[21:13] <llutz> velory: no polls here pls
[21:14] <velory> llutz:  it's not a poll if anyone using gedit here I want to know if they use any plugin to open multiple files
[21:14] <Rounin> Remind me again how I escape the mandatory install of the ttf-mscorefonts
[21:14] <velory> gedit channel is dead
[21:14] <Rounin> Every six months it wants me to agree to some Microsoft license
[21:14] <xbuntu> I still use gedit vel
[21:14] <tularis> i think i'm going to reinstall ubuntu ><
[21:14] <velory> xbuntu: so are you using any plugin to open multiple files -- or whole folder
[21:14] <tularis> for the third time
[21:15] <tularis> i love ubuntu so much
[21:15] <xbuntu> why tul and no i dont vel
[21:15] <curiousx> me too
[21:15] <tularis> but ubuntu hate new hardware
[21:15] <velory> bah anyone using gedit here and using plugin to open multiple files at once ?
[21:15] <jimubao> my natty crash all da time ><...
[21:15] <jimubao> it hangs ...
[21:15] <tularis> the secret is use a DELL
[21:16] <tularis> i just bought a lenovo
[21:16] <tularis> i have a shitload of problem
[21:16] <tularis> my dell just worked fine
[21:16] <jimubao> i had dell studio 15
[21:16] <tularis> its like Mac os
[21:16] <jimubao> had ubuntu natty on it
[21:16] <tularis> but with dell - ubuntu
[21:16] <jimubao> and crash very often ~
[21:17] <xbuntu> anyone know why everytime i load up my os i have to force reload alsa.. after i just added a line to the .conf to make my sound work properly
[21:17] <llutz> velory: have you read gedit man-page about filenames?
[21:17] <velory> llutz: well I don't want to write every individual file when opening gedit I want to choose whole folder and open all files inside
[21:17] <rhin0> anyone know why with vinagre servername:0 on ubuntu 10.04 I can see the desktop but can't click on anything (control it)
[21:18] <alkafoo> rhin0: there's a pref for just seeing or actually being able to do stuff, too, IIRC
[21:18] <rhin0> so maybe its the preferences on the server machine
[21:18] <rhin0> or it is
[21:18] <curiousx> cya all =)
[21:18] <alkafoo> right
[21:18] <rhin0> which means I have to get up and walk across the room - damn
[21:20] <jimubao> xbuntu: which conf did u edit ?
[21:21] <xbuntu> alsa base
[21:21] <alkafoo> rhin0: well you _could_ probably do it from SSH but =P
[21:21] <xbuntu> i had to because the sub was only playing
[21:21] <xbuntu> so i just added targa-2ch-dig
[21:21] <xbuntu> and downloaded hda analyzer and edited some options in their now its working great but everytime i restart
[21:21] <tularis> seriously
[21:22] <xbuntu> i have to force-reload, then mess with hda analyzer
[21:22] <tularis> fucking hardware builder
[21:22] <tularis> i hate them
[21:22] <tularis> if they provided good drivers
[21:22] <tularis> linux would be equal to mac os
[21:22] <tularis> no i have to buy a macbook ><
[21:22] <VampsDaBeast> what version of X.org does Natty use?
[21:22] <tomodachi> does anyone know how to issue a suspend command to a laptop from the command prompt?
[21:23] <alkafoo> tomodachi: pm-hibernate or something
[21:23] <alkafoo> dpkg -L pm-utils
[21:24] <tomodachi> alkafoo: thnx for the tip! ill look into it
[21:24] <xbuntu> Vamps i think natty uses 1.10?
[21:25] <VampsDaBeast> any way to find out thru term?
[21:26] <lnx1> Hello all, ive asked before but im trying again... Hello, can anyone suggest some software that can be installed onto ubuntu desktops that counts down users and thenlogs them out? Like you would find on a windows based pc in say a library or an internet cafe?
[21:26] <maletor> Can I install http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/redis-server on 11.04?
[21:27] <alkafoo> lnx1: informing them of how much time they have left?
[21:27] <llutz> VampsDaBeast: Xorg -version
[21:27] <VampsDaBeast> llutz, ty
[21:28] <tomodachi> anyone know where to look so I can put a script that is triggered on suspend/resume?
[21:28] <alkafoo> lnx1: it'd be pretty easy to start a script from the shell or DE startup system and inform them with libaosd
[21:28] <xbuntu> llutz can u tell me why everytime i restart my comp i have to force reload my alsa?.. i just added an option line to alsa-base.conf.. and now my sound works perfect
[21:28] <xbuntu> but not when restart
[21:28] <llutz> xbuntu: no
[21:28] <jrib> lnx1: maybe timeoutd (never used it)
[21:28] <lnx1> alkafoo: yes, basically i have 2 pcs setup that the public can use but there is now way to kick them off unless i ask them to leave, which doesnt really work in a public building where they are allowed to come and use them. basically to stop them hogging the pcs.
[21:29] <CaoYoussef> http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/media/PAL_palestinian-loss-of-land.jpg
[21:30] <alkafoo> timeoutd does look right
[21:30] <LjL> CaoYoussef: that's not on-topic for this channel, please don't post it again
[21:31] <xbuntu> #xubuntu
[21:31] <CaoYoussef> LjL, ok
[21:31] <VampsDaBeast> llutz, do u have any exp[erience using nvidia cards
[21:32] <llutz> VampsDaBeast: i use one (6200 something), it works, thats my experience :)
[21:32] <lnx1> alkafoo: if only i knew how to write such a script! :) i did try one from one website but no joy im afraid.
[21:33] <VampsDaBeast> llutz, hahah. ok.. im having a small issue between some games and all that i cant figure if its my cards drivers, or the game.
[21:33] <xbuntu> llutz do u know if u can install the normal video card driver for ur card on ubuntu or do u have to use the one they recc?
[21:33] <alkafoo> lnx1: you say jrib's msg, right?
[21:33] <alkafoo> saw
[21:33] <llutz> VampsDaBeast: i cannot help you, i don't play games at all.
[21:34] <xbuntu> vamp what games?
[21:34] <xbuntu> through steam?
[21:34] <qin> lnx1: How many users, same usernames, same time to kick?
[21:34] <VampsDaBeast> llutz, totally understandable
[21:34] <lnx1> alkafoo: sorry! no, dont know what it is, let me google...
[21:34] <VampsDaBeast> xbuntu, no, they are those available thru the software center.
[21:35] <MaxHR> Hello, am looking to use my pcmcia flash card reader to boot a laptop that doesn't have a working cd drive, anybody know if this will work and how to set it up?  looking to use Plop boot manager
[21:35] <xbuntu> Oh lol if u used steam or whatever i was gonna tell ya to do net_graph 3 but that command is only avaiable through steam
[21:35] <xbuntu> tell's ya fps
[21:35] <alkafoo> lnx1: it's what you want
[21:35] <alkafoo> lnx1: if it doesn't inform users, you can probably fix it like I said
[21:35] <xbuntu> that prolly woulda told u if it was ur card or just ur os or something.
[21:36] <rhin0> alkafoo I think it's because of compiz on the server machine (vinagre can't control)
[21:36] <lnx1> qin: 2 pcs in a public office, so 1 person on 1 pc at a time, (a local user account has been created, already logged in) just need to have some kind of timer to count down say 30 mins.
[21:36] <rhin0> when I get up
[21:36] <VampsDaBeast> well the issue is when i play a FPS and switch off a server, the game locks up.
[21:36] <rhin0> disable compiz - all ok
[21:36] <xbuntu> Hmm idk.. never had that issue
[21:36] <xbuntu> try google?
[21:36] <xbuntu> maybe someone else has had that issue
[21:36] <VampsDaBeast> next step
[21:37] <VampsDaBeast> already on the ubuntu help section
[21:38] <mattalexx> I'm trying to set up autofs but I can't seem to find which log file to tail in order to get mounting errors.. Which log file does autofs report to?
[21:38] <xbuntu> is there a command to tell you your video card?
[21:38] <zykotick9> xbuntu, "lspci | grep -i vga"
[21:38] <qin> lnx1: use "users" to detect login and sleep 1800 && service gdm restart (need to be run as root and is very crude)
[21:39] <xbuntu> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce GTX 285M] (rev a2)
[21:39] <xbuntu> does that mean its in use?
[21:39] <xbuntu> or no? it says compatiable...
[21:39] <rhin0> yes xbuntu
[21:39] <rhin0> if its in lspci its in use
[21:39] <rhin0> I think
[21:40] <xbuntu> well when i go to the nvidia control panel it doesnt say anything about gtx 285m..
[21:40] <xbuntu> so i wonder if i can go to the nvidia website and download the driver
[21:40] <rhin0> maybe go to the nvidia website look
[21:40] <rhin0> yes
[21:40] <aboSamoor> whenever I open a terminal I get $ instead of my normal bash, any idea ?
[21:40] <xbuntu> can i use wine to open?
[21:40] <xbuntu> or just dl the linux if they have it
[21:40] <rhin0> or look for hardware drivers on the machine
[21:40] <VampsDaBeast> thats wat im doing xb..
[21:41] <rhin0> hardware drivers from system preferences I think will maybe detect if drivers are available xbuntu
[21:41] <VampsDaBeast> nvidia does have linux driver
[21:41] <llutz> aboSamoor: you removed ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc? you don't use bash at all (echo $SHELL)?
[21:41] <xbuntu> mmk
[21:41] <rhin0> system > administration > hardware drivers
[21:41] <rhin0> click on that it will look for drivers for you
[21:41] <xbuntu> thank u rhin0 and Vamps kk i will try that rhin0
[21:41] <xbuntu> and if there is none i will go to nvidia website
[21:41] <lnx1> alkafoo + qin: thanks for your help!! much appriciated! will look into this now :)
[21:42] <mrgordon> hello
[21:42] <VampsDaBeast> xbuntu, be sure to look at the thread in the nvidia forums bout using the drivers.. its quite helpfuil.
[21:42] <qin> lnx1: For visible time you canuse conky, to make it easy.
[21:42] <qin> *timer
[21:42] <xbuntu> well rhin0 thats the thing... i have v 173 installed
[21:42] <xbuntu> but i think i can look up MY driver for my card on nvidia
[21:42] <rhin0> research
[21:42] <xbuntu> made for my card
[21:42] <rhin0> !forums
[21:43] <aboSamoor> llutz echo $SHELL gives /bin/sh
[21:43] <xbuntu> whats the command to see what driver u have install for ur vga
[21:43] <VampsDaBeast> xbuntu, you can .. findin the drivers for your specific card is simple..
[21:43] <llutz> aboSamoor: and /bin/sh links to /bin/dash?
[21:43] <xbuntu> i know vamp
[21:43] <xbuntu> thats what im saying
[21:43] <VampsDaBeast> installin them is the tricky part
[21:44] <xbuntu> because when u install ubuntu they give u drivers
[21:44] <aboSamoor> llutz: yes
[21:44] <xbuntu> but not made for UR card
[21:44] <llutz> aboSamoor: chsh -s /bin/bash
[21:44] <xbuntu> well it is but it isnt..
[21:44] <xbuntu> idk if that made sense but w.e
[21:44] <VampsDaBeast> correct, they are global/universal drivers
[21:44] <aboSamoor> llutz: chsh: user 'my_user' does not exist in /etc/passwd
[21:45] <VampsDaBeast> nvidia has started to make there drivers compitable for multi cards series'
[21:45] <hagus> I have a wubi installation on windows7.   I have been taking photos off my camera SD card but my shotwell is telling me that I am running (have run) out of space.   Can I increase that space?   I shall move my photos onto my external drive but I would like to increase my ubuntu data space as well.
[21:45] <arada> hello
[21:46] <llutz> aboSamoor: ... thats odd, you don't exist... "getent passwd <yourusername>"
[21:46] <xbuntu> hagus i think u need to make a partition u cant just add space
[21:46] <xbuntu> i dont think
[21:47] <aboSamoor> llutz: it is there, my_user:x:2020:2020::/home/my_user:/bin/sh
[21:47] <hagus> Can I do it with partition manager type stuff or does the fact that I have used wubi suggest that I might need to reinstall?
[21:47] <DaSinge> Hey, how do I set up a server for ftp?
[21:47] <VampsDaBeast> xbuntu, i sent you a pm, check out that link
[21:47] <mattalexx> I'm trying to set up autofs but I can't seem to find which log file to tail in order to get mounting errors.. Which log file does autofs report to?
[21:48] <warfaren> can one change the default screen key config? i would like to detach with a different key combo than ctrl A D
[21:48] <arada> Can anyone can help me figure out why my machine can't be accessed remotely anymore? ftp, ssh, http, it's all inaccessible.  I'm stumped.
[21:49] <llutz> aboSamoor: not really  recommended, but if chsh fails: "sudo nano /etc/passwd"  change  /bin/sh into /bin/bash    in that line starting with your username, save & quit
[21:49] <arada> It was all working yesterday.
[21:50] <llutz> aboSamoor: or try: sudo usermod -s /bin/bash <yourusername>
[21:50] <jrtech> Arada try point the those see it it issue
[21:51] <alkafoo> qin: how's that work?
[21:51] <aboSamoor> llutz: I can not see my username in /etc/passwd gotta to say that we are using NIS
[21:51] <arada> jrtech:  what?
[21:51] <llutz> aboSamoor: oops, no idea how that works then. sry
[21:51] <DaSinge> or maybe just an ssh server
[21:51] <tomekh> I use openoffice 3.3.0 on ubuntu 10.04 and math symbols (for example sum) is not showing (I just get rotated "?" symbol), am I missing some font?
[21:51] <qin> alkafoo: It works good ;)
[21:52] <jrtech> arada: try to ping your host see if it us up
[21:53] <arada> it doesn't respond to ping either
[21:53] <arada> I do have access to the machine locally
[21:54] <jrtech> On try to access your host local http arada
[21:55] <jrtech> arada: also make sure the serves are runing
[21:56] <bentglasstube> It seems that the aufs module in ubuntu 11.04 does not support exporting aufs over nfs.  What is the best way for me to make this possible?
[21:56] <arada> everything is running, I can ssh, ftp, etc.  It even has internet access.
[21:56] <arada> I jus't cant access it remotely any longer.
[21:57] <ComradeHaz`> Hi guys, if I wanted to run a command such as "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | grep -i cycle" on each of my drives in turn, how would I do so? So 'pseudocode' to explain better, something like sudo smartctl -a /dev/sd[a-c] | grep -i cycle
[21:57] <ComradeHaz`>  
[21:58] <alkafoo> qin: as a count down widget, or as a display for one?
[21:58] <jrtech> Okay and your http is not accessible remotely?
[21:58] <Zerpy> if I have uploaded wordpress to my local apache/php5 server, do anybody knows why I get an error 500 then? :O
[21:58] <alkafoo> ComradeHaz`: for i in {a..c}; do something "$i"; done
[21:58] <tomodachi> ComradeHaz`: if you have just a couple of drives why not just put them in succession in the script?
[21:59] <arada> no it's not
[21:59] <jrtech> arada: it kinda strange how the http can not be accessible
[21:59] <ComradeHaz`> tomodachi: it's a simple example to ask the question. I just want to learn
[21:59] <ComradeHaz`> (I have 9 drives.)
[21:59] <qin> arada: All closed
[22:00] <arada> The machine is in the router's DHCP client table
[22:00] <qin> arada: You sure your firewall is ok?
[22:00] <tomodachi> ComradeHaz`: you got an example there, you could make is less dependet by actually using your devices
[22:01] <arada> I shut down shorewall
[22:01] <tomodachi> for i in ls /dev/sd*
[22:01] <MaxHR> How can I use one computer to network boot ubuntu using another computer? (over ethernet)  the second computer doesn't have a working cdrom drive
[22:01] <tomekh> I use openoffice 3.3.0 on ubuntu 10.04 and math symbols (for example sum) is not showing (I just get rotated "?" symbol), am I missing some font? http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9739/screenshotbba.png
[22:01] <arada> is there another firewall?
[22:01] <tomodachi> MaxHR: an ubuntu usb stick, or netboot
[22:01] <arada> shorewall is all I configured.
[22:02] <jrtech> arada: you have to the hosts in demand mode you want to be access remotely or poor forward them
[22:02] <Markus> hi
[22:02] <arada> the ports are forwarded already
[22:02] <arada> everything is like it was yesterday.
[22:03] <qin> alkafoo: Not sure, but you can use same countdown for display in conky and to trigger logout, this would mean second job (script for conky).
[22:03] <MaxHR> tomodachi, ok, I will try netboot from windows... this computer doesn't support usb stick booting
[22:03] <qin> arada: Is your local ip the same?
[22:03] <tomodachi> MaxHR: the network card needs netboot support, you need to set up a machine that will serve dhcp tftp and more for it to work.
[22:04] <MaxHR> tomodachi, it supports netboot, am using this howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot
[22:04] <alkafoo> ah
[22:04] <MaxHR> but I need a LTS netboot image
[22:05] <ComradeHaz`> alkafoo: tomodachi, trying what both are you are suggesting to no avail
[22:05] <jrtech> arada:  check your long
[22:05] <jrtech> Logs
[22:06] <arada> which log should I check?
[22:07] <qin> arada: Compare ifconfig with router forward configuration.
[22:16] <arada> ifconfig shows correct ip
[22:16] <gucko> hi guys, I have Ubuntu server and I installed LAMP. I created a virtual host, but when I try to access it, I get: "You don't have permission to access / on this server." how to solve that please?
[22:16] <gucko> I changed the files permissions, but it didn't work :(
[22:18] <qin> arada: Do you have DZM option in router?
[22:19] <arada> yes but that is not my problem
[22:19] <xbuntu> how do u get to restricted modules in ubuntu
[22:20] <bastidrazor> xbuntu: ubuntu-restricted-extras is what you're referring to? codecs?
[22:21] <xbuntu> well
[22:21] <debugnet> gucko: check your configuration file to see if a default index.html or default.asp is directed to when no path/ is added to the url...
[22:21] <xbuntu> im attempting to install nvidia drivers directly from their website
[22:21] <xbuntu> i need to go in there to disable
[22:22] <bastidrazor> xbuntu: follow the guide on their website.
[22:22] <gucko> debugnet: which conf file?
[22:22] <qin> arada: You can access ssh locally and local ip = ip forwarded in router. Well you could check iptables -L to see if there is something.
[22:22] <xbuntu> DISABLED_MODULES="nv nvidia_new"
[22:22] <xbuntu> ^
[22:22] <gucko> debugnet: "/etc/apache2/httpd.conf" is empty!
[22:22] <debugnet> gucko: from the error message probably the apache/httpd configuration.
[22:22] <srck> hpla
[22:22] <srck> hola
[22:22] <debugnet> gucko: correct file, check man httpd.conf
[22:23] <arada> what am I looking for in iptables
[22:23] <gucko> debugnet: what do you mean by "man htttpd.conf"? I doesn't have a man!
[22:23] <gucko> *it
[22:23] <sburwood1> I have a problem with my printer.  When using the desktop (64 bit ubuntu) to print something, the printer is announced as not being connected.  When I use my EEEPC with 32 bit ubuntu, it works fine.  Why doesn't the desktop with the same 11.04 want to print?  In the past, if worked and I didn't fiddle with any parameters of the printer
[22:25] <zebulon_> hi
[22:25] <debugnet> gucko: sorry try: man apache2
[22:26] <arada> I don't see any REJECT
[22:26] <debugnet> gucko: under see also should have a link to a doc you can review with zcat command to read on configuration options.
[22:26] <qin> arada: DROP?
[22:27] <arada> Chain INPUT (policy DROP), also Chain FORWARD (policy DROP)
[22:27] <arada> shouldn't it be ACCEPT also
[22:28] <edwardpatch> hi
[22:28] <edwardpatch> how do i make my ubuntu look like windows 7
[22:28] <ikonia> edwardpatch: there aren't really good windows themes for unity.
[22:28] <edwardpatch> oh
[22:29] <edwardpatch> i do havew one but its still downloading wine but what does wine do
[22:29] <ikonia> edwardpatch: wine is not a theme
[22:29] <edwardpatch> i know
[22:29] <ikonia> !wine | edwardpatch
[22:29] <edwardpatch> but in the theme theres stuff included
[22:29] <alkafoo> edwardpatch: it runs win32 .exe's
[22:29] <edwardpatch> \oh
[22:30] <edwardpatch> why is it downloading then
[22:30] <alkafoo> edwardpatch: probably a "windows" pack
[22:30] <edwardpatch> ok
[22:30] <alkafoo> the better to satisfy your irrational Windows desires
[22:30] <edwardpatch> it was just a expirment
[22:30] <edwardpatch> lol
[22:31] <MiDo> Wellcome all :)
[22:31] <edwardpatch> hi
[22:31] <g0rs> hi
[22:31] <edwardpatch> shall i leave it to download or shall i cancel it
[22:31] <TrueColors> how do you reformat 11.04?
[22:31] <edwardpatch> ???
[22:31] <debugnet> gucko: do you have an /etc/apache2/apache2.conf file? if not, i can upload one that i have that was the default install from apt-get so you can read and manipulate to your liking...
[22:32] <TrueColors> I want to have a clean install... :(
[22:32] <edwardpatch> oh i know
[22:32] <edwardpatch> true
[22:32] <edwardpatch> colors
[22:32] <edwardpatch> did u install it inside windows
[22:32] <TrueColors> nope
[22:33] <edwardpatch> oh
[22:33] <TrueColors> dual boot
[22:33] <BarkingFish> since my half of the distro appear to have gone to get some z's, I'm going to ask this here - apologies for the cross post, my lot have dozed off.
[22:33] <edwardpatch> then
[22:33] <edwardpatch> boot off disc
[22:33] <ikonia> TrueColors: clean install, just do a re-install.
[22:33] <edwardpatch> then delete through that way
[22:33] <edwardpatch> why do u want a clean install??
[22:33] <edwardpatch> anyway
[22:33] <xbuntu> where do u find the restricted files?
[22:33] <xbuntu> i do
[22:33] <TrueColors> well...
[22:34] <xbuntu> gksudo gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[22:34] <xbuntu> and it brings me to a blank page
[22:34] <ikonia> xbuntu: what are you actually trying to do ?
[22:34] <xbuntu> i just installed the package
[22:34] <BarkingFish> Earlier, per instructions to install a program called synce, i removed some kernel modules - rndis_host, cdc_ether and usbnet - I now need these back, because I'm working a different way to sync my iPAQ (WM5) - but I can't reinstall the modules. Any ideas?
[22:34] <TrueColors> i need to erase all installations of php5, mysql and nginx.
[22:34] <TrueColors> well i think mysql is fine
[22:34] <TrueColors> but when I install nginx
[22:34] <xbuntu> install a nvidia driver for my vid i dont wanna use the ubuntu driver
[22:34] <TrueColors> it should be in... /etc/init.d/nginx
[22:34] <TrueColors> to start and stop etc
[22:34] <edwardpatch> ok
[22:34] <FloodBot1> TrueColors: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:34] <TrueColors> and it doesnt' exist.
[22:34] <ikonia> xbuntu: why not ?
[22:34] <arada> qin: you led me in the right direction, it was a problem with iptables, thank you.
[22:34] <edwardpatch> why dont u delete it then
[22:35] <xbuntu> idk dont want to i wanna try  the one that goes to my video card
[22:35] <arada> anyone can recommend a good tutorial for firewall configuration?
[22:35] <ikonia> !ufw | arada
[22:35] <ikonia> xbuntu: I very very strongly advise you to use the video drivers that are available from the ubuntu repos
[22:35] <edwardpatch> so how is everyone
[22:36] <xbuntu> whys that
[22:36] <ikonia> edwardpatch: try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chit chat, we try to keep this channel to support only
[22:36] <xbuntu> worst comes to worse i reinstall ubuntu
[22:36] <ikonia> xbuntu: because they are tried and tested, installing nvidia/ati drivers from external sources can cause a lot of problems.
[22:36] <TrueColors> yeah so basically, it's refusing to properly install nginx and php so i cannot follow the tutorial... I need to pretty much... erase it all. and I'm not sure how
[22:36] <ikonia> xbuntu: if you have no reason to do it, and you don't know why you are doing it, I strongly advise you not to do it
[22:36] <ikonia> TrueColors: just re-install, simple and clean
[22:37] <xbuntu> well the source is from nvidia website
[22:37] <xbuntu> lol
[22:37] <ikonia> xbuntu: that is not a good thing to install unless you have a genuine reason
[22:37] <xbuntu> so im guessin they are tested?
[22:37] <ikonia> xbuntu: no, they are not,
[22:37] <zebulon_> hi, can someone give me hand installing linuxq3apoint-1.32.x86.run?
[22:37] <rns> what's a good malware/virus scanner for ubuntu?  I know "you don't need it" but what do you suggest for those who want to take precautions?
[22:37] <zebulon_> ./ and sudo don't do it
[22:37] <xbuntu> well.. can u just help me install them im the one doing it not u :P
[22:37] <ikonia> zebulon_: what's the issue
[22:37] <ikonia> rns: there isn't a malware scanner for what you're saying
[22:37] <zebulon_> just commands ikonia
[22:37] <rns> ikonia, why not?
[22:38] <ikonia> xbuntu: no, I'm sorry, I'm not going to blindly help you ruin your machine for no reason
[22:38] <rns> no open source solution out there?
[22:38] <ikonia> rns: because malware doesn't happen in the same way as windows, so the scanner isn't the same
[22:38] <xbuntu> ur not going to ruin my machine..
[22:38] <ikonia> zebulon_: what's the error
[22:38] <zebulon_> permission of course
[22:38] <xbuntu> the worse that can happen is i have to reinstall ubuntu
[22:38] <rns> ikonia, so you're saying a virus scanner doesn't exist for ubuntu?
[22:38] <ikonia> zebulon_: why of course, I'm asking sensible questions
[22:38] <ikonia> rns: not in the safe way you're thinking of as a windows desktop
[22:38] <zebulon_> no doubt :]
[22:38] <ikonia> zebulon_: sudo chmod 755 $filename
[22:39] <rns> ikonia, in what way does it exist?
[22:39] <ikonia> zebulon_: then ./$filename
[22:39] <CanadianPirate> Does anyone know it the compat wireless patch is still working in linux3.0?
[22:39] <ikonia> rns: as a scanner for windows virus (eg: if your machine was a mail server for windows clients, or a file server for windows clients) that sort of thing
[22:39] <zebulon_> file not found, hang on.
[22:39] <ikonia> CanadianPirate: linux3.0 is not in a supported ubuntu release at this time, so we don't support it here
[22:39] <ikonia> zebulon_: you need to be in the same directory
[22:39] <gerzel> do you answer questions for xubuntu?
[22:40] <ikonia> gerzel: if we can
[22:40] <ikonia> gerzel: also be aware of #xubuntu channel
[22:40] <rns> ikonia, why doesn't linux have an easy malware scanner?  Surely ubuntu malware exists, no?
[22:40] <ikonia> rns: no
[22:40] <zebulon_> ikona - when i start a shell there it is, in my user
[22:40] <gerzel> Hey I'm having trouble mounting a couple of vfat usb drives.  It is giving failed to mount "Error mounting: mount: unknown filesystem type 'vfat'"  -- asked in xubuntu channel but no response
[22:41] <ikonia> gerzel: it should auto mount when you plug them in
[22:41] <SIFTU> rns: clamav will scan for viruses
[22:41] <DontTrip> I dropped unity for gnome classic and was wondering how to get that 4 screen division that shows all your desktops in one in classic
[22:41] <ikonia> SIFTU: no, it will scan for windows virus
[22:41] <DontTrip> dont know how else to describe it
[22:41] <SIFTU> ikonia: yes
[22:41] <zebulon_> ikonia - if its properly compiled the ./$ should run it in general, no matter the exention?
[22:41] <ikonia> SIFTU: which is not what he asked
[22:41] <gerzel> It is showing them on the desktop but double clicking gets the error I gave you
[22:41] <ikonia> zebulon_: no
[22:41] <ikonia> zebulon_: that has nothing to do with compiling
[22:41] <arada> thanks for the help qin, jrtech
[22:41] <arada> bye
[22:41] <rns> ikonia, how does ubuntu not have any viruses?
[22:42] <ikonia> rns: the permissions system in linux is different to windows, so virus don't work in the same way,
[22:42] <SIFTU> rns: well what could happen to *nix machines is something called a rootkit
[22:42] <zebulon_> the file itself is some kind of download script so just have to run it
[22:42] <zebulon_> thanks ikonia i think i got it
[22:42] <ikonia> zebulon_: so change the permissions as I told you and run it
[22:43] <rns> ikonia, what about the ubuntu permissions make it impossible to becoming susceptible to viruses?
[22:44] <ikonia> rns: please research on the net - this isn't ubuntu specific, it's Linux in general
[22:44] <VampsDaBeast> why question the fact that an Operating System has higher security against Viruses on install? be happy and dont worry.
[22:46] <hamed> hi every body
[22:46] <hamed> any one here
[22:46] <gerzel> rns: Nothing about ubuntu permissions make viruses imposable.  They might add an extra hurdle or two, but it would depend on the attack vector of the virus as to weather or not they would apply at all to the operation of the virus.
[22:46] <ikonia> hamed: lots of people
[22:46] <SIFTU> VampsDaBeast: he should question the fact actually.. becuase it's very possible for a rootkit to happen, which to me is a virus
[22:46] <enferex> I need to package our patched linux kernel for some stuff at work.  Is there a specific doc (that I have yet to find) on creating a custom-kernel Ubuntu package?
[22:47] <hamed> ok i tried to install windows and ubuntu on my laptop but i damaged my hard
[22:47] <ikonia> !packaging | enferex
[22:47] <CanadianPirate> Linux can have viruses. Just nobody makes them because the audience is too small at the moment.
[22:47] <edwardpatch> lol
[22:47] <hamed> at first i lost one of my partitions
[22:47] <edwardpatch> everyone hates linux
[22:47] <ikonia> edwardpatch: please don't talk silly in here
[22:47] <rns> gerzel, so landing on a website that installs something in my browser to sniff passwords can't happen on ubuntu?  Or are you saying that in order for something like that to happen the attack would first need to get the root pass?
[22:47] <edwardpatch> and its windows who has more viruses
[22:48] <hamed> his name changed
[22:48] <edwardpatch> ok
[22:48] <hamed> and no data on it
[22:48] <ikonia> rns: please research outside the channel as suggested, this isn't ubuntu specific.
[22:48] <hamed> the second when i try to install ubuntu the hard appear as a one part
[22:48] <CanadianPirate> rns, It may happen, but it is very unlikely.
[22:49] <ikonia> CanadianPirate: no, it doesn't happen
[22:49] <rns> ikonia, I am doing research, but comments by other people seem to contradict yours, so I am following up.
[22:49] <SIFTU> rns: and if it does happen it will be very unlikely you can detect it
[22:49] <CanadianPirate> I may have been mistaken
[22:49] <hamed> any read my q ?
[22:49] <hamed> any one read my q ?
[22:50] <ikonia> hamed: no, as you spaced it out on 10 lines
[22:50] <zebulon__> so is it ./$linuxq3apoint-1.32.x86.run :s
[22:50] <zebulon__> ?
[22:50] <hyperreal> whats the ssl port for this server?
[22:50] <ex0> 6697
[22:50] <hyperreal> ty
[22:50] <CanadianPirate> rns, Here is the wiki article on linux malware: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware
[22:50] <ikonia> zebulon__: sounds good
[22:51] <edwardpatch> u do know
[22:51] <edwardpatch> there are virus scaners on linux
[22:51] <hamed> i lost data on 1 partition and my hard converted to one part with no partition
[22:51] <CanadianPirate> rns, just worry about anything that you would run as root.
[22:51] <zebulon__> ikonia filname is parsed until -1.32 then file not found.
[22:51] <g0rs> edwardpatch: why do you want to use virus scanners? perhaps you have to search for maliciuous scripts
[22:52] <ikonia> zebulon__: type the filename in correctly and make sure you're in the same direcotry as the file
[22:52] <zebulon__> ikonia: .:. bash: ./$: No such file or directory
[22:52] <pingu> hi
[22:52]  * zebulon__ mumbles
[22:52] <rns> CanadianPirate, thank you, that link is helpful.
[22:52] <ikonia> zebulon__: you don't need the $ unless the file has a $ in it's name
[22:53] <zebulon__> ikonia: Error in check sums 375899461 3293662273 ... file not so good
[22:53] <ikonia> zebulon__: rin "file $filename" (replace $filename with the filename)
[22:53] <ikonia> zebulon__: looks that way
[22:54] <hamed> i lost data on 1 partition and my hard converted to one part with no partition when i open my laptop with live cd it read the hard as partitions but when i open gparted or try to install ubuntu it appear as one partition unallocated
[22:55] <hamed> ikonia
[22:55] <sylar_> hi
[22:57] <zebulon__> ikonia - last question, how i open the file for direct edit?
[22:57] <ikonia> zebulon__: depends on the file type, I asked you to run "file" against it
[22:57] <ncuptea> hello all
[22:58] <zebulon__> posix
[22:58] <ikonia> zebulon__: please show the the exact output
[22:59] <ikonia> zebulon__: actually don't bother, it's a binary file, you can't edit it
[22:59] <zebulon__> excuse flood paste
[22:59] <ncuptea> Please help me in my cron on karmic server edition not run if, but on lucid desktop cron is working
[22:59] <zebulon__> file: invalid option -- '1'
[22:59] <zebulon__> file: invalid option -- '.'
[22:59] <zebulon__> file: invalid option -- '3'
[22:59] <zebulon__> file: invalid option -- '2'
[22:59] <zebulon__> file: invalid option -- '.'
[22:59] <zebulon__> file: invalid option -- 'x'
[22:59] <ikonia> zebulon__: don't
[22:59] <zebulon__> file: invalid option -- '8'
[22:59] <zebulon__> file: invalid option -- '6'
[23:00] <zebulon__> file: invalid option -- '.'
[23:00] <FloodBot1> zebulon__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:00] <zebulon__> file: invalid option -- 'u'
[23:00] <KindOne> PASTEBIN
[23:00] <qin> too late
[23:00] <zebulon__> thanks, soz
[23:01] <ikonia> zebulon__: not a problem.
[23:02] <qin> ncuptea: sudo service anacron status
[23:02] <hamed> please any one can reply me
[23:02] <hamed>  lost data on 1 partition and my hard converted to one part with no partition when i open my laptop with live cd it read the hard as partitions but when i open gparted or try to install ubuntu it appear as one partition unallocated
[23:03] <pythonsnake> Hello
[23:03] <g0rs> hi
[23:03] <pythonsnake> I have accidentaly removed some packages.
[23:03] <pythonsnake> How to undo ?
[23:03] <robot-army> After running updates last night, I am no longer able to boot using either the current or previous kernel.  (Natty)  I am getting the following error: http://i.imgur.com/V9mFk.jpg - Any help would be greaty appreciated
[23:03] <zebulon__> hmm, file -C -m ... talk about flood output
[23:03] <ikonia> pythonsnake: you're using kubuntu 11.10
[23:03] <g0rs> pythonsnake: reinstall them again
[23:03] <ikonia> pythonsnake: please don't ask in here
[23:03] <pythonsnake> ikonia: No I moved back
[23:03] <qin> pythonsnake: history, s/remove/install
[23:03] <ikonia> pythonsnake: please show me the output of uname -a
[23:04] <pythonsnake> why?
[23:04] <ikonia> pythonsnake: please show me
[23:04] <pythonsnake> does it have anything to do with my question?
[23:04] <ikonia> pythonsnake: show me
[23:04] <pythonsnake> ...
[23:04] <pythonsnake> Linux Raptus 2.6.38-11-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 23 21:23:39 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:04] <ikonia> pythonsnake: please show me the output of that command
[23:05] <ikonia> pythonsnake: thank you
[23:05] <pythonsnake> ban me ?
[23:05] <ikonia> pythonsnake: no
[23:05] <pythonsnake> :-)
[23:05] <hamed1> no one can restore my data in my partition ?      no one can make me install ubuntu with out lost the rest of data ?
[23:06] <IdleOne> Python1320: look at the history in Software center and reinstall whatever was removed.
[23:06] <IdleOne> err
[23:06] <IdleOne> pythonsnake: ^
[23:06] <hamed1> why no one wants to reply me
[23:06] <hamed1> is it difficult
[23:06] <hamed1> ?
[23:07] <g0rs> hamed1: you might have to use a sw tool to extract data from that partition by booting from a separate drive . What was the file system of that partition?
[23:07] <meanieface> hamed1: they will reply just be patient don't flood the channel
[23:07] <hamed1> it was ext4
[23:07] <LjL> !recover
[23:08] <g0rs> hamed1: looks like this is bad news. there might not be a way to recover that partion. Were there important files you want to recover or do you have backups?
[23:09] <hamed1> ok no  problem about the data lost
[23:09] <hamed1> but now i have a data on my hard
[23:10] <hamed1> and i want to install ubuntu with out delete this data
[23:11] <hamed1> when i trying to install it it appear as 1 part but when i open it with windows or live cd i can open the partition contains data
[23:11] <TrueColors> Ok
[23:11] <TrueColors> I removed my entire ubuntu installation
[23:11] <TrueColors> so I now have... 107GB Freespace.
[23:11] <Guest92938> so does anyone have experience with wacoms
[23:12] <TrueColors> When I try to install 10.10, I click on the free space... so it goes orange, then click "Install now" ... but it says "No root file system defined" ... how can I fix this issue?
[23:12] <Guest92938> i finally FINALLY got my wacom working, and then it screwed up x, which i believe was more trying to install gnome-shell
[23:12] <g0rs> hamed1: windows wont recognize ext4 afaik
[23:12] <hamed1> no i have ntfs partition
[23:12] <Guest92938> so classic mode for me in ubuntu cause unity sucks on this netbook
[23:13] <StepNjump> for 64bits users, is there any easier way to download Adobe flash player from their website TAR.GZ, 6.9 MB. I have no idea how to install tar.gz
[23:15] <hamed1> the ntfs contain data but when i try to install ubuntu the hard appear as 1 partition and when i open it with gparted it also appear as 1 unallocated
[23:15] <StepNjump> for 64bits users, is there any easier way to download Adobe flash player from their website TAR.GZ, 6.9 MB. I have no idea how to install tar.gz
[23:15] <_Neytiri_> is there a command i can use to copy all files form driectories recurcisfuly that mathca a specicic file extention?
[23:15] <MiDo> could i can found any data recovery for my centos vps ??
[23:16] <pythonsnake> there are packages who were dependency of another one. let's say x is dependency of y. y got deleted. aptitude tell me to delete x, but how to get aptitude to download y instead ?
[23:17] <ex0> neytiri: cp *.(EXTENSION) (/dest/file
[23:17] <ikonia> pythonsnake: is the package in question rekonq ?
[23:17] <robot-army> After running updates last night, I am no longer able to boot using either the current or previous kernel.  (Natty)  I am getting the following error: http://i.imgur.com/V9mFk.jpg - Any help would be greatly appreciated
[23:17] <pythonsnake> ikonia: no
[23:17] <g0rs> hamed1: I'm not sure but you may not install linux on an ntfs partition  you have the distro's manuals.
[23:17] <ikonia> pythonsnake: which package ?
[23:18] <MaxHR> Hello, have a softmodem recognized with the slmodem driver, but when I try to connect, it dials and tries to connect, then I get no carrier, any ideas to fix?
[23:19] <TrueColors> On the Ubuntu install... "Who are you?" why is the forward button greyed out?
[23:19] <TrueColors> it's still copying files.
[23:19] <TrueColors> and how does it know whether to do 64bit or 32?
[23:19] <coz_> TrueColors,  it would, i believe, grey out after hittin enter,, did yhou do that?
[23:20] <TrueColors> nope.
[23:20] <coz_> TrueColors,  you have to download the 32 or 64 bit install cd
[23:20] <TrueColors> i can click back
[23:20] <pythonsnake> ikonia: deborphan
[23:20] <ikonia> !info deborphan
[23:20] <TrueColors> Ubuntu sent me the 10.10 disk...so... im not sure
[23:20] <coz_> TrueColors,  which iso did you download?
[23:21] <ikonia> pythonsnake: in that situation you'll have to just re-download the dependency
[23:21] <yeats> TrueColors: if you don't know, it's probably 32-bit
[23:21] <_Neytiri_> ex0 i tried somethign liek that and it gave and error
[23:21] <coz_> TrueColors,  its most likely the 32 bit version then
[23:22] <pythonsnake> ikonia: it's a bit strange, each time I talk, you intervene, just like I was highlighting you :)
[23:22] <qin> _Neytiri_: find . -name *.mp3 -type f -exec echo cp {} /copy/there \;
[23:22] <ikonia> pythonsnake: I was active when you asked the quesiton, there is nothing strange about it
[23:22] <qin> _Neytiri_: Remove echo if you fine with results
[23:22] <_Neytiri_> ok
[23:22] <TrueColors> ah, now it's showing.
[23:22] <_Neytiri_> i'll give that a try
[23:22] <pythonsnake> ikonia: you are everywhere I come
[23:22] <coz_> TrueColors,  if this was sent by canonical,, I believe it should be printed on t he cd cover if it is 32 or 64 bit,,although I have not seen one lately
[23:23] <ikonia> pythonsnake: I've been in these channels for years
[23:23] <TrueColors> you cannot start your username with a capital letter
[23:23] <_Neytiri_> find: missing argument to `-exec'
[23:23] <pythonsnake> ikonia: can't have a linux-channel withoout you :)
[23:24] <qin> _Neytiri_: Have you closed command with: \;
[23:24] <TrueColors> i guess I'll find it when it's installed
[23:24] <TrueColors> if it is 32bit i can always erase
[23:24] <_Neytiri_> that was it
[23:25] <yeats> TrueColors: 32-bit is fine and probably indistinguishable from 64-bit for most casual users -FYI
[23:26] <qin> _Neytiri_: Also, try to highlight person you sleak to. !who !tab
[23:26] <TrueColors> I upgraded to 64bit with windows 2 years back... I'm not downgrading :P I'm a average gamer but I'm also a developer. I like to have tons of windows open...
[23:26] <qin> pythonsnake: Try mint channel, ikonia isnot there...
[23:26] <TrueColors> but when I did upgrade to 64bit, I did end up going up to 3gb ram from 1gb ...
[23:27] <TrueColors> went from a microprocessor to a core i3...
[23:27] <ikonia> qin: I think you'll find I am, and what's the point of trying mint channel if you're not using mint
[23:27] <TrueColors> i guess I wouldn't notice the differenceb ack then
[23:29] <qin> ikonia: Helping pythonsnake to escape "This" feeling, but you right, no point, just best show this evening.
[23:30] <melik> hello i'm having trouble setting up the catalyst ati graphics with unity
[23:31] <melik> the dragging feature is not working properly
[23:32] <urlin2u> melik, try alt key.
[23:32] <melik> urlin2u: do i have to enable xinerama?
[23:33] <urlin2u> melik, not familiar with xinerama
[23:34] <yeats> !xinerama
[23:35] <coz_> melanie,   do you have an nvidia card?
[23:35] <coz_> melanie,  nevermin d
[23:35] <TrueColors> ok, whats the command in terminal to see the system specs..
[23:35] <TrueColors> including if it's 64bit or whatever
[23:35] <coz_> melanie,  you may want to go to the #radeon channel for setting that up
[23:36] <coz_> TrueColors,  simple command for architecture is     arch
[23:36] <StijnH> Hello. When doing a "command-line install", there's just a blinking cursor on boot. Ctrl-Alt-Space-F1 brings up the terminal. Is this expected behaviour?
[23:36] <TrueColors> i686...
[23:36] <StijnH> Also, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems says the installation takes around 450MB, but with an 800MB hard drive the installation will fail during package manager configuration. It seems an install takes about 1GB. Is the help page outdated then?
[23:36] <TrueColors> that.. helps..
[23:36] <coz_> TrueColors,  ok thats  32 bit
[23:37] <urlin2u> StijnH, on what distro?
[23:37] <StijnH> 11.04 alternate CD
[23:40] <TrueColors> yeah it's 32..
[23:40] <TrueColors> CRAP
[23:41] <TrueColors> ok well...
[23:41] <TrueColors> of I go all over again
[23:41] <FloodBot1> TrueColors: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:41] <urlin2u> StijnH, you have things mixed up I believe look closer 800MB HD 1 GB on install. Ubuntu is about 2.8 gigs installed are you looking at a mini install?
[23:41] <yeats> TrueColors: you might just try living on 32-bit for a while, just to get acclimated ;-)
[23:41] <zykotick9> StijnH, that link is outdated.  The requirements for Desktop state 5GB for space.
[23:42] <TrueColors> acclimated?
[23:42] <TrueColors> do I need to google the definition?
[23:42] <coz_> TrueColors,   get used to it,,, rather
[23:42] <StijnH> urlin2u: the 1 GB install is after I gave it a HD of 20 GB.
[23:42] <jclbrt> maybe someone can help here... i'm trying to set up a ubuntu server to be my main router...  I'm using 10.04LTS...   the topology I have is .... Comcast modem --> Ubuntu eth0--> to switch on eth1-->to client PCs
[23:42] <coz_> TrueColors,  the differenct is in the architecture not the functionality
[23:42] <StijnH> zykotick9: ok, thank you.
[23:42] <jclbrt> i was following these instructions: http://www.server-servers.com/ubuntu-router-network-gateway/
[23:43] <yeats> TrueColors: sorry - yes - "get used to" ;-)
[23:43] <jclbrt> in the picture where they show the interfaces configuration i notice they have a line that says iface eth0 inet dhcp
[23:43] <jclbrt> what the heck does this mean
[23:43] <jclbrt> does that mean it's trying to serve IPs on eth0
[23:43] <DthenQ> need help installing TOR. have the tar.gz, says to just extract and run. but where do i extract to?
[23:44] <yeats> jclbrt: no - it means "get my network address from DHCP"
[23:44] <jclbrt> ah ok... yeats: isnt that the whole point of auto eth0?
[23:44] <xbuntu> wheres that guy that was installin the nvidia driver
[23:44] <xbuntu> ?
[23:44] <jclbrt> i didnt think it needed that extra line
[23:44] <yeats> jclbrt: the alternative is "static", where you then define the IP address manually
[23:45] <ikonia> xbuntu: that was you.
[23:45] <ikonia> xbuntu: I advised you not to do it
[23:45] <xbuntu> No i just did that
[23:45] <xbuntu> ;)
[23:45] <xbuntu> still here arent i
[23:45] <yeats> jclbrt: it does need it - it needs to know how it's getting its connection
[23:45] <xbuntu> with no help from u
[23:45] <Younder> yeats, DHCP is a server which delegates IP addresses. It should be the default and therefore you should not have to worry about it.
[23:45] <ikonia> xbuntu: it's up to you what you do, I advised you not to do it.
[23:45] <jclbrt> yeats but it's not in there by default
[23:45] <xbuntu> I just did it ik
[23:45] <zykotick9> jclbrt, "auto eth0" is NOT dhcp!  I believe it's like automatically initialize on boot, or autodetect link change
[23:45] <xbuntu> and nothing happened
[23:45] <ikonia> xbuntu: good for you. Be aware that when your kernel updates next, X will probably stop working totally.
[23:45] <robot-army> After running updates last night, I am no longer able to boot using either the current or previous kernel.  (Ubuntu 11.04)  I am getting the following error: http://i.imgur.com/V9mFk.jpg - Any help would be greatly appreciated
[23:45] <yeats> Younder: jclbrt is the one with the problem ;-)
[23:45] <xbuntu> Nope
[23:46] <xbuntu> because when it downloaded
[23:46] <xbuntu> it asked me if i wanted to update xconfig
[23:46] <xbuntu> so when it updates
[23:46] <yeats> jclbrt: if you use NetworkManager, it will not be defined there
[23:46] <xbuntu> it will update to it to
[23:46] <DthenQ> I need some noob help - have a tar.gz, the site says to just extract and run, where should i extract to?
[23:46] <xbuntu> so
[23:46] <jclbrt> yeats this is a server install
[23:46] <jclbrt> no desktop environment
[23:46] <xbuntu> and it already back up all the files
[23:46] <jclbrt> so all cli
[23:46] <yeats> jclbrt: understood
[23:46] <StijnH> My goal is to set up a build machine. It needs a toolchain and samba, and I'd like to run this with low memory and disk space usage.. Possibly someone can suggest an alternative to this command-line install option?
[23:46] <ikonia> xbuntu: yes, but when the kernel next updates, the module you download will no longer be valid, so X will stop working as that module won't be loaded.
[23:46] <ikonia> xbuntu: it's a common issue.
[23:46] <xbuntu> Lol kk we will see
[23:47] <ikonia> xbuntu: just be aware of it, so if the display stops working, thats the most likley cause.
[23:47] <rs-aziz> hi every one
[23:47] <yeats> jclbrt: 'auto eth0' just means "bring up eth0 automatically"
[23:47] <xbuntu> lol it wont stop working
[23:47] <Younder> jclbrt, so you are using a linux machine as a router? ir is it CISCO?
[23:47] <xbuntu> because before i downloaded it
[23:47] <xbuntu> i uninstalled nvidia
[23:47] <xbuntu> and it was working still
[23:47] <jclbrt> i had at one point had one working but i dont recall needing that line, but i guess i'll put it in...
[23:47] <jclbrt> Younder I am using a ubuntu server 10.04LTS as a Router
[23:47] <yeats> jclbrt: it is required
[23:47] <zykotick9> xbuntu, using the driver from nvidia.com is a poor choice
[23:47] <ikonia> xbuntu: please listen to what I'm saying, it's a common problem.
[23:47] <ikonia> xbuntu: just be aware of it, so that if it stops working you know the reason.
[23:47] <ikonia> (or at least the most likley reason)
[23:48] <xbuntu> Lol zykotick Please tell me why is it a poor choice?
[23:48] <jclbrt> hmmm.. odd my other server which isnt a router and getting it's IP from DHCP does not have that line in there, thats why i was wondering, but i will put it in
[23:48] <zykotick9> !tab > xbuntu
[23:48] <zykotick9> xbuntu, no
[23:48] <StrangeCharm> does locking the screen cause gpg-agent to forget cached passphrases?
[23:48] <jclbrt> younder: i'm using a ubuntu 10.04LTS as a router
[23:48] <jclbrt> mainly so that i can get ntop working
[23:49] <viktyr_korimir> I installed Ubuntu about an hour ago and I know next to nothing about it.
[23:49] <edbian> viktyr_korimir: Ask more specific questions
[23:49] <xbuntu> d
[23:49] <jclbrt> comcast gave me a warning for going over my bandwidth useage
[23:49] <jclbrt> apparently i did more than 250GB in 6 days
[23:49] <Younder> zykotick9, no it isn't It is vastly superior to the open-source driver in ters of performance
[23:49] <ikonia> viktyr_korimir: https://help.ubuntu.com is a good place to get you started/introduction
[23:49] <viktyr_korimir> I want to add a source to the Software Center. There are instructions on the website, but they do not make sense to me.
[23:49] <edbian> viktyr_korimir: link please
[23:50] <jclbrt> yet i have no clue how... my ddwrt router says i only transferred 60GB all month (combined with upload and download of course) so i want to compare it to ntop
[23:50] <edbian> viktyr_korimir: What software are you trying to get?
[23:50] <viktyr_korimir> http://www.playdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/10.04/
[23:50] <viktyr_korimir> Hmm. This may be part of my problem.
[23:50] <prod_> Hi all, I have a very silly friend who tryed to fix his windows machine by reinstalling via the built in automated installer. Then realised he had formatted his whole drive and reinstalled and forgettin to backup his family photos. Which program would you recommend me using to track down deleted files?
[23:50] <edbian> viktyr_korimir: ur on 11.04 right?
[23:50] <zykotick9> Younder, i'm not saying use neouvea (spelling?), but using Ubuntu's tools to install nvidia driver is FAR better then using manually installed driver direct from nvidia.com
[23:51] <viktyr_korimir> edbian: Yes, I am using 11.04.
[23:51] <Younder> zykotick9, true
[23:51] <edbian> viktyr_korimir: which game?
[23:51] <zykotick9> prod_, i've had success with photorec
[23:51] <jclbrt> prod_ how much money you got??
[23:52] <viktyr_korimir> edbian: I'm trying to install FreeCiv and a handful of emulators that I had running under Win7.
[23:52] <zykotick9> prod_, you don't get the names back, but you could (try and) recover like *.jpg
[23:52] <prod_> im aware of testdisc but im gettin any results.
[23:52] <edbian> viktyr_korimir: so you click 'install this now' and what happenes?
[23:52] <Younder> jclbrt, Do you have the 'Unix administration handbook'?
[23:52] <prod_> not*
[23:52] <zykotick9> prod_, photorec is part of testdisk - but for files instead of partitions
[23:52] <viktyr_korimir> edbian: I get an error message saying that there's no software by that name under any of my software sources.
[23:53] <prod_> googling photorec now
[23:53] <viktyr_korimir> edbian: I followed step 1 to "install the playdeb package", and the Software Center says it is installed, but no joy.
[23:53] <coz_> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[23:53] <edbian> viktyr_korimir: step 1 ?
[23:54] <viktyr_korimir> edbian: From the link. I clicked on the playdeb link.
[23:55] <edbian> viktyr_korimir: give me a link to step 1 please
[23:55] <viktyr_korimir> edbian: Okay, I got it to work for FreeCiv 2.3.0. I'm going to try some of the others and see if my problem has been resolved.
[23:55] <edbian> viktyr_korimir: ha, ok good :)
[23:55] <viktyr_korimir> edbian: http://archive.getdeb.net/install_deb/playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb
[23:56] <DthenQ> need help please - where would i typically extract/install tar.gz files on a home computer
[23:56] <surial> I'm trying to work with a bttv video capture card. "modprobe bttv" seems to work, and lsmod says a bunch of bttv-related modules are in there, but there's NO /dev/video0. udev is running. What does that mean?
[23:56] <surial> no error messages in dmesg about bttv.
[23:56] <DthenQ> ie in windows it would be C: or C:/program files/....
[23:56] <edbian> DthenQ: do the compiling in your home.  Install them to /usr/local/bin or /home/you/bin
[23:57] <coz_> DthenQ,  you can extract them anywhere you like,, I generally do it on the desktop   ,, right click the tar.gz  and "extract here"
[23:57] <edbian> DthenQ: create /home/you/bin if it doesn't exist
[23:57] <jclbrt> DthenQ whereever you want
[23:57] <DthenQ> coz_ it will make it's own folder wherever the tar.gz is located, where is the place to neatly store new programs?
[23:57] <jclbrt> you can create a file in the home directory called "extracted files" or something and extract them there
[23:57] <DthenQ> /home/me/bin?
[23:57] <viktyr_korimir> edbian: Thank you for your help, even if the problem did seem to clear up on its own.
[23:58] <edbian> viktyr_korimir: sure :)
[23:58] <jclbrt> DthenQ only if runable... try /src
[23:58] <viktyr_korimir> edbian: Could you explain to me how to add software sources manually, in case it ever comes up again?
[23:58] <jclbrt> thats where i extract mine
[23:58] <edbian> DthenQ: yeah, the folder  /home/<yourUsername>  is your home folder, but a folder in there called bin.  /home/you/bin :)
[23:58] <coz_> DthenQ,  well if you extract and follow the instructions for compiling it will install in its proper loaction,, unless this is an executable  then you can store it in the home diretory if you like
[23:58] <jclbrt> /usr/src
[23:58] <DthenQ> awesome, thank you, can't extract to /usr/src, i think admin gets in the way
[23:59] <edbian> DthenQ: you don't have permission to write anywhere outside of your home folder
[23:59] <DthenQ> coz_ no compiling, it's like a zip file with the program in it ready to go, just need the place to put it
[23:59] <zykotick9> viktyr_korimir, check out /etc/apt/sources.list (this is what Debian uses by default, not 100% sure it applies to Ubuntu)
[23:59] <DthenQ> edbian - okay thanks