[00:33] <jaddi27> head_victim, Thanks for your hard work! It was certainly worth it. Let's hope that we can keep the enthusiasm levels up for the next re-approval.
[01:07]  * gorilla is pondering a venue for a release party for Melbourne. Will probably be low numbers as it's been a while
[04:32] <sagaci> that'd be right, the 4G device comes out the day after I get the ultimate 3G
[04:32] <sagaci> looks like it's going to be a long afternoon
[04:53] <sagaci> yay, getting 4G modem... :)
[05:50] <sagaci> taking the telstra/bigpond ultimate usb back on friday, since it's within the 10-day cooling off period, just doing some tests on ubuntu anyway to check if it was going to work :)
[07:17] <head_victim> sagaci: you'll have to let us know how the 4g goes with Ubuntu.
[07:17] <head_victim> Add it to the wiki page and shoot off tot he ML
[07:18] <sagaci> yeah not totally confident it'll work out of the box or at all but at least I'll be a test case
[07:19] <sagaci> it's the sierra 320U
[08:21] <head_victim> Nice, that sierra lists Ubuntu as a supported operating system
[08:21] <head_victim> http://www.sierrawireless.com/productsandservices/AirCard/USBModems/AirCard_320U.aspx
[08:28] <xannen> Hi head_victim
[08:28] <head_victim> Evening xannen 
[08:28] <xannen> Telstra 4G is release today I think... I heard it on ABC breakfast news.
[08:29] <xannen> How are you "enjoying" your sierra?  :D
[08:29] <head_victim> I'm not, sagaci bought one today
[08:30] <xannen> Oh... sorry.  :D
[08:30] <head_victim> He wasn't sure if it would work so a quick google and the manufacturer lists Ubuntu as supported which is kinda awesome
[08:30] <xannen> Sure is!
[08:31] <xannen> 3 weeks till 11.10!  :D
[08:43] <gorilla> email is away for Melbourne release party/social.
[08:43] <gorilla> head_victim: well done on getting the group re-approved. No more splinters! :-)
[08:44] <head_victim> gorilla: nice to be official again, we need to keep the activity growing though so we don't stagnate.
[08:50] <gorilla> yep.. Newtons 1st law applies here also. :-) 
[08:51] <head_victim> I really dislike emails to mailing lists that have the topic of <OT> Blah blah blah. If you know it's OT, why the heck are you posting it :/
[08:57] <gorilla> It depend on how OT it is. :-)
[08:57] <head_victim> Nah, to me OT is an admission that you know better
[09:01] <gorilla> head_victim: If you end up saying no OT in the subject line, people will still bring it up rather, just without the OT. Sometimes you need to ask why they are doing it? Sometimes it's because they don't know where to ask.
[09:09] <ejat> head_victim: will u be at UDS next month ? 
[09:10] <head_victim> ejat: nah, you going?
[09:12] <ejat> got the sponsorship .. planning my travel n organize my visa .. 
[09:13] <head_victim> Ah, I nearly went for sponsorship but it kinda just slipped past me at the time
[09:13] <ejat> owh .. i just try my luck .. since already try for past few UDS .. 
[09:14] <ejat> where u at the osdc.au 2009 at brisbane ? 
[09:14] <head_victim> Ah I've never applied. i'm not a dev though so that sort of makes me think twice
[09:14] <head_victim> Nope, unfortunately not.
[09:14] <ejat> i meet elky and some other ubuntu-au members .. hope to see u guys again in the future... 
[09:23] <head_victim> ejat: well let us know if you're ever down this way again and we'll throw you a party :)
[09:26] <ejat> ouch .. 
[09:26] <gorilla> down to Brisbane?
[09:26] <ejat> gorilla: i was end of 2009 ... 
[09:27] <gorilla> ahhh.
[09:27] <ejat> head_victim: hoping to have biz there .. so easier to justify fly there .. 
[09:28] <head_victim> Well just sing out, we'll organise something for you
[09:31] <ejat> also hopefully can go back to gold coast :) 
[09:32] <head_victim> Hah that's an hours drive from my place
[09:34] <ejat> ouch .. 
[09:34] <ejat> i luv the hway scenary ... 
[09:34] <ejat> i wish i have $$$ to travel .. 
[09:35] <ejat> was driving from gold coast to brisbane .. took 1 hour drive .. 
[09:37] <head_victim> Yep, I'm 5km from the Brisbane CBD
[09:38] <ejat> owh .. 
[09:38] <ejat> maybe i day we shall meet .. :) 
[09:38] <ejat> 1*
[09:42] <gorilla> iDay... Now we need a definition for that word/name. :-)
[09:43] <ejat> :)
[09:47] <Fudge> i was just up there and went to Q1, scary lift 
[09:48] <head_victim> Never been
[10:03] <head_victim> Fudge: so are you a Brisbanite?
[10:15] <Fudge> tasmanian head_victim 
[10:16] <head_victim> Ah ok, we won't hold that against you though ;)
[10:16] <Fudge> hope not head_victim  :)
[10:16] <Fudge> i have family south of bris
[10:16] <head_victim> Heh, one of the people I was speaking to earlier tonight from America said "I'd like to visit Australia sometime.  New Zealand and Tasmania, too."
[10:17] <Fudge> yeah WB put us on the map
[10:18] <sagaci> head_victim: loving it, 9mbit updates via aarnet, through ultimate modem on windows still
[10:18] <head_victim> sagaci: I found a link for your product, it has support for linux and Ubuntu specifically mentioned ont he website
[10:18] <head_victim> http://www.sierrawireless.com/productsandservices/AirCard/USBModems/AirCard_320U.aspx
[10:19] <sagaci> yeah, is 9.04 a typo? :P
[10:19] <head_victim> Maybe, maybe not 
[10:19] <sagaci> I saw on whirlpool too that the sierra modules need to be updated/patched... we'll see how that goes when I get the modem itself
[10:20] <sagaci> streaming HD tedtalks from aarnet too... it's incredible
[10:20] <Fudge> impressive
[10:21] <sagaci> I wonder if sierra modules/drivers are open-source. ie. will they be ever integrated to the kernel
[10:22] <head_victim> So that was 9mbit or MB ?
[10:23] <sagaci> 9mbit
[10:23] <sagaci> still impressive for where I reside
[10:24] <sagaci> like my old adsl1 connection :/
[10:25] <head_victim> Ah yeah, just checking 
[10:25] <head_victim> Oh that's not the 4g one though is it
[10:28] <sagaci> nah, due to the 10-day cooling off period, I'm able to keep this one until the new one arrives, roughly
[10:28] <sagaci> I can't get 4G where I am anyway but I'd prefer the newer modem
[10:28] <head_victim> Yeah that's fair enough
[10:28] <sagaci> I won't really properly test it until a few days after oneiric is released
[10:29] <sagaci> I just had to reinstall over my oneiric install since my apt-get was k-buggered
[10:29] <sagaci> might be reverting to 32-bit too for my main laptop
[10:29] <sagaci> because of one application
[10:29] <head_victim> hmm you can't make it work on 64?
[10:31] <sagaci> barely, then apt-get wasn't working unless I "apt-get -f upgrade"'d, threatening to remove key things like totem, ubuntu-desktop, libc things, etc... ugly
[10:34] <sagaci> so then I reinstalled via the latest 64-bit ubuntu daily, failed.. reverted to installing from 11.04 official CD... so slow due to installing off CD, and 32-bit :/
[10:39] <head_victim> Known issue or?
[10:39] <head_victim> What was the program?
[10:40] <sagaci> yeah, Guitar Pro 6... there's a variety of hacks to even get it installed but it used to work fine on 10.04 and 10.10 but just unmet dependencies, etc... 
[10:41] <sagaci> if I can fix that, I can remove windows
[10:41] <sagaci> and since it's a sound based program, more issues arise
[10:42] <head_victim> Tried using ubuntu-studio as a base?
[10:42] <sagaci> nah, I prefer to use regular ubuntu
[10:42] <head_victim> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1458626&page=2 post 16
[10:42] <sagaci> I might try that though when I have a week or two spare
[10:44] <sagaci> yeah, I'll take note but will have to defer that for another time since I need a stable laptop for next week :)
[12:32] <sagaci> looks like 4G is out in my area after all.. weird, thought it'd only be in the capital cities... looks like I'll have use of that modem on ubuntu after all
[12:35] <head_victim> sagaci: you'll have to let us know how it goes
[12:36] <sagaci> yeah, I will
[14:05] <xannen> All asleep
[14:05] <xannen> ?
[14:06] <sagaci> nope
[14:07] <xannen> How are you, sagaci?
[14:07] <sagaci> not bad
[14:07] <xannen> How's your Telstra 3G?
[14:09] <sagaci> pretty impressed with it but I'm swapping it for the newer device
[14:09] <xannen> 4G?
[14:09] <sagaci> yeppers
[14:09] <xannen> I have a 10G from dodo.  :P
[14:10] <sagaci> nice one
[14:11] <xannen> I reckon!  Haha.
[14:19] <sagaci> night owl?
[14:23] <xannen> Yes I'm a night owl.
[14:23] <xannen> Hoot hoot!
[15:35] <sagaci> head_victim: I know you're probably not awake now but I'm glad this applies to us now: http://lococouncil.ubuntu.com/2011/09/27/ordering-11-10-cds-is-now-open/
[15:54] <xannen> Yay 11.10 cd hehe.
[15:54] <xannen> Not asleep yet, sagaci?
[15:54] <sagaci> nope, not yet
[15:55] <xannen> Can I get free 11.10 cd, sagaci?
[15:56] <sagaci> yeah you can but they're more likely to be a burn copy from a guy who donates a few CD's each release
[15:57] <sagaci> afaik, official cd's are for events and installfests, etc
[15:57] <xannen> Okay, I'll download and make my own cd. :D
[15:57] <xannen> LOL installfest.
[15:58] <sagaci> the cd's are only 32bit anyhow, the official ones
[15:58] <xannen> Yeah, I will have to get my own 64 bit version.
[15:59] <sagaci> besides, I'd rather install via usb, much faster and efficient
[16:00] <xannen> Is it?  I didn't know that.
[16:01] <sagaci> yup
[16:02] <xannen> With usb install, do you just extract the ISO onto the usb?
[16:03] <sagaci> use a tool like unetbootin to copy it over
[16:05] <xannen> Can you put multi-image on one usb stick?  Or will that cause conflict?  I have never done USB installation, total noob, as you can see. :D
[16:07] <sagaci> xannen: two distros one stick? maybe, never had the need or the time to do that
[16:08] <xannen> sagaci, okay.  :D  And yes, that is what I meant.
[16:09] <xannen> OMG... Greece just default already.  Too much time yapping and no action.
[16:11] <xannen> sagaci, are you going to "release party"?
[16:12] <sagaci> yes, I'm planning one for sydney
[16:12] <xannen> I forget, are you located in Brisbane or Sydney?
[16:15] <gorilla> xannen: Greece has defaulted??!! I hope you are not joking.
[16:15] <xannen> No no... They have.  I was just ranting.  Sorry to provoke your gorilla.
[16:15] <xannen> LOL
[16:16] <xannen> I have the news on most of the time, and won't stop hearing about Greece economy, it's annoying.
[16:16] <sagaci> I'm in regional nsw, closest city being sydney
[16:16] <xannen> Ah...
[16:19] <xannen> Michael Jackson Trial on BBC News now, on ABC 24.
[16:19] <gorilla> xannen: If Greece does default the ripple will be worse than the GFC... It's a *big* concern so not a joking matter.
[16:20] <xannen> I understand that, I only joke with you, not the matter. :P
[16:28] <gorilla> hmmm.. We have been discussing this at work (delaing with stockborking software) and likely conclusion is that Greece will default as we suspect that they don't have the guts to restructure which will crash the Euro as people sell off. Quest
[16:29] <gorilla> ion is: Will the EU kick them out of the Euro zone first?
[16:29] <gorilla> s/delaing/dealing/
[16:30] <xannen> That's my suspicion too, although I have no finance/economic knowledge.  So little fact is release about the matter, and it appears Greece is stalling, i.e. they won't admit what you just said.
[16:31] <xannen> At the same time, I think the EU fear the repercussion, and may need to bail Greece out, especially with pressure from Global community.
[16:34] <gorilla> yeah. It's really difficult.
[16:36] <xannen> gorilla, What do you think about using Nuclear power?
[16:38] <gorilla> xannen: It is compatible with coal power. :-P But seriously, I doubt the politians would be able to get the regulations through parliment. They'd all be kicked out at the next election
[16:38] <xannen> LMAO
[16:39] <gorilla> It's probably 15-20 years from "let's do it" to start up.
[16:39] <xannen> gorilla, did you hear about Kevin Rudd slip of tongue?  :P  I think we have exhausted non-Nuclear power usage, and should do so before exploring Nuclear.
[16:40] <xannen> There was a Nuclear power research, Silex, and its importance.
[16:40] <gorilla> I suspect that Australia is to NIMBY to see it happen... heck victoria can't get a Desal plant built!
[16:40] <gorilla> s/to/too/
[16:42] <xannen> Okay, sleep time for now, gorilla.
[18:20] <ikt> head_victim: remember to make official loco status front page news :P
[20:42] <head_victim> ikt: yeah I have to try and write something that sounds good first ;)