[17:08] <markie-> waves
[17:10] <brobostigon> o/
[17:14] <markie-> brobostigon: Do you think rape of women should be legalized now?
[17:15] <brobostigon> markie-: why, no, no one should be forced to do anything, especially being violated. so no, definatly not. why do you ask?
[17:17] <markie-> brobostigon:  Well, I'm kind of wondering. I'm not too sure about it. Women have taken advantage of men for many of years. So, maybe it's justified to some extent. Agree?
[17:19] <brobostigon> markie-: i think it justified, when it has actually happened, otherwise that description, of rape is no longer true. so rape only applies a discription when it has actually happened. i am presumsing you mean taking advantege by m,aking false accusation and or, lack of clarity of consent.
[17:23] <markie-> brobostigon: Yes exactly, they will get drunk and come on to many men, provoke sexual intercourse and even start touching them first etc...but then half way through they say "no"..this is nonsense isn't it?..do you think the man should continue even harder at that point?
[17:24] <brobostigon> markie-: that is leading people on, and giving mixed and confusing signals. therefore is definatly plain wrong.
[17:26] <markie-> brobostigon: Yes, and so man should punish this woman by asserting his dominance to send her a message and to others who follow down that pathway
[17:26] <markie-> brobostigon: i like your thinking!
[17:27] <brobostigon> markie-: no, no violence, of any kind.
[17:28] <markie-> brobostigon: but then what do you think of bdsm porn, that's violent!
[17:29] <brobostigon> markie-: i dont like that.
[17:29] <brobostigon> it is my liking,
[17:29] <brobostigon> isnt*
[17:30] <markie-> Fair enough, but it definitely shows a side of human nature. Women particularly seem to enjoy it  a lot. What does that say about them, brobostigon ?
[17:30] <brobostigon> it isnt logical, it makes no sense, therefore most peoples nature makes no sense. endof;
[17:32] <markie-> :)
[17:34] <brobostigon> :)
[17:34] <brobostigon> but that is my loely opinion, very few would agree with me, i suspect.
[17:42] <brobostigon> markie-: also, in addition, most peoples behaviour seems illogical, but certain womens more often.
[17:42] <brobostigon> certainly*
[17:42] <markie-> brobostigon: yes, very true!
[17:43] <brobostigon> :)
[17:51] <Kaia> markie-: wtf man?
[17:52] <brobostigon> good evening Kaia :)
[17:52] <Kaia> good evening brobostigon
[17:52] <Kaia> and this isn't a discussion to be having in a logged channel >.<
[17:52] <Kaia> especially an ubuntu-... one
[17:53] <brobostigon> agreed, and i said, i dont think its right. quite clearly and firmly.
[17:54] <markie-> Yea agreed
[17:56] <Kaia> so either pm or another channel :)
[17:56] <markie-> hush
[17:57] <brobostigon> the discussion had ended with my statement, as refferring to illogical behaviour.
[17:57] <markie-> Yes, just some true man talk
[17:57] <markie-> Kaia: you wouldn't understand
[17:57] <Kaia> markie-: cut it out
[17:58] <markie-> Kaia: what seems to be the issue?