[00:05] hey RAOF , I'm adding bug #824099 to a must-fix list for oneiric. you pretty confident on this getting done for Oneiric? [00:05] Launchpad bug 824099 in gnome-settings-daemon "Max GL texture size can break multi-head" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824099 [00:08] jasoncwarner_: Reasonably so. My first go doesn't seem to work properly, so I'm instrumenting it to see where. It *should* be done within the next few days. [00:09] RAOF: need some help with it or is this one of those where more hands make it harder? [00:12] I don't think more hands would be particularly helpful. [00:12] If I stall I'll give a shout. [00:15] RAOF: great, thanks... [00:18] RAOF, hey, can you look at bug 813566 and see if my conclusions about g-s-d+xrandr make sense to you? [00:18] Launchpad bug 813566 in unity-greeter "Greeter not displayed correctly on multi monitor setup" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/813566 [00:18] particularly the issue that Rocko is getting, not sure if there's anything we can do about that (in the greeter) [00:19] robert_ancell: Certainly. Looking. [00:23] robert_ancell: That looks right to me - I guess you could do something about it in the greeter by not loading g-s-d's xrandr plugin, though. [00:23] RAOF, if I didn't, then would the behaviour always be mirror? [00:23] Yes. [00:23] That's X's default setup [00:24] ok, that seems like the safest behaviour [00:24] FWIW that's also the behaviour I *currently* see with lightdm, and also the behaviour I saw with gdm. [00:26] yeah, I get the same too (unless I plug in a monitor after lightdm starts) [00:26] I wonder why people are getting different [00:26] I'd guess they'll have a monitors.xml lying around somewhere. [00:26] There was a setting at one point to make that system-wide, wasn't there? [00:26] ah [00:27] ~/.config/monitors.xml [00:27] RAOF, yes, although I'm not sure where that would put the file. [00:28] i don't see anything in gnome-desktop that would write out a system-level file [00:29] even going back a few releases [00:29] broder, in the gui in natty it's a button that says 'Make Default' [00:30] org.gnome.randr.install-system-wide [00:30] There's no guarantee that's hooked up to anything, though :) [00:30] bryceh, did we drop that or did upstream do it? [00:30] guessing it's in some global gconf registry [00:30] robert_ancell, I would guess upstream did; seb128 might know better [00:31] unless this changed pre-maverick, g-s-d doesn't have any awareness of specific filenames - it gets them all from gnome-desktop [00:36] aha - /apps/gnome_settings_daemon/xrandr/default_configuration_file -> /etc/gnome-settings-daemon/xrandr/monitors.xml [00:36] but i'm still not convinced anything looks at that [00:38] nope! wrong again. g-s-d looks at ~/.config/monitors.xml, then /etc/g-s-d/etc [00:45] Success! I've accidentally done a test patch that refuses to configure a non-broken desktop, but that just shows that it's working :) [00:56] RAOF, disabling xrandr makes it work well, cheers [01:05] Ok. What's the best way to distinguish between running Unity and running Unity2D? [01:07] Hm. Or, perhaps a better question - what's the best way to distinguish whether or not Compiz is running? [01:09] RAOF: I know various ways of doing so in shell scripts, but not in C. :) [01:09] Or at least, nothing that is not a horrible hack. [01:09] Or at least, nothing that is not a horrible hack./c [01:10] At a pinch I think I could query for the compositor selection. [01:12] Or, my current simplest candidate, check the DESKTOP_SESSION environment for "ubuntu" rather than "ubuntu-2d" [01:14] Yeah that could work, but it ties the fix to Ubuntu... [01:16] Which I'm actually ok with. [01:16] Because the *real* solution is for compositors to be less crap. [01:17] Right. [01:18] jbicha: I can't confirm your changes fix bug 846908 [01:18] Launchpad bug 846908 in gnome-contacts "gnome-contacts crashed with SIGSEGV in folks_persona_store_add_persona_from_details()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/846908 [01:19] jbicha: furthermore, I'm of the opinion that it should be a recommends or suggests, since it's not absolutely required for gnome-contacts to work [01:24] RAOF: i think there's an X selection to indicate that the wm is compositing [01:24] _NET_WM_CM_Sn, where "n" is the screen number [01:24] cyphermox: I get the crash when I click the + button in Contacts [01:25] furthermore, it doesn't pick up my contacts from g-o-a without it [01:25] jbicha: it works for me without it [01:26] and I still get the crash with :) [01:26] broder: Indeed there is. However, that breaks unity2d users who've enabled compositing in metacity. [01:26] cyphermox: and you have a Google account set up in g-o-a? [01:27] yup [01:27] I see contacts, they could only have come from google. [01:29] cyphermox: do you use Evolution? [01:29] I do, it's all set up with my work and personal email [01:29] (I use both evo and thunderbird) [01:29] it might pick up your contacts from Evolution... [01:30] I think adding the dependency gets contacts working on a fresh install w/o Evolution [01:31] mkay, but I maintain it shouldn't be required; it's crashing because there's a bug in gnome-contacts [01:32] (not that it couldn't be a Recommends though) [01:33] would you sponsor as a recommends then? [01:36] RAOF: does compositing-metacity not have this problem as well? [01:37] jbicha: well, I could, but we should fix the bug too [01:37] any idea what might be causing it? [01:38] cyphermox: no, but there's bug 846908 [01:38] Launchpad bug 846908 in gnome-contacts "gnome-contacts crashed with SIGSEGV in folks_persona_store_add_persona_from_details()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/846908 [01:38] broder: No. This is only a problem for compositors which use GL and aren't capable of splitting a window into multiple textures. [01:38] I don't know anything about libfolks [01:39] broder: So any non-GL compositors are fine, as is compiz if you enable the split-my-windows plugin and don't use Unity (which has additional problems). I don't know about gnome-shell. [01:39] jbicha: also, http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-contacts/commit/?id=cc6422a1a39d936eadd98d734c289aa70d4f38bc [01:40] RAOF: oh, huh. i didn't realize metacity composited without using GL [01:40] There's perfectly funtional 2D compositing infrastructure in XRender :) [01:41] cyphermox: ok, I see they rolled a new tarball for that so I'll test that first [01:42] oh nm, we already have 3.2.0.1 [01:42] oh, so we have it? [01:43] yes [01:50] I think bug 835498 is serious since g-o-a is a very prominent button but it doesn't do anything in the default install [01:50] Launchpad bug 835498 in gnome-online-accounts ""Online Accounts" doesn't seem to work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/835498 [01:50] adding gnome-contacts to the default install would help but as we can see, it's not fully tested [01:54] jbicha: that's not related to gnome-contacts [01:54] gnome-contacts is afaik just a contact viewer [01:57] g-o-a claims to sync mail, calendar, contacts, chat, and documents & it doesn't do any of that in default [02:15] jasoncwarner_: I've got a working patch for the texture size bug. Now to clean it up and propose a branch merge; some review wouldn't go astray. [03:05] jbicha: I don't know, I could see my google contacts in evo [03:06] jbicha: and I didn't add that elsewhere than g-o-a, unless evo now extrapolates google contact accounts from email accounts (doubtful) [03:20] cyphermox: right, it works in Evolution but not in Thunderbird yet, I'm surprised that GTalk didn't appear to be setup for Empathy though [03:21] jbicha: I didn't think you could work with google contacts in thunderbird without the correct extension... [03:21] mkay but the thunderbird part may only be because there is g-o-a instrumentation in both eds and evo, from what I remember [03:22] otoh, you're right it should appear in empathy, I think, but maybe it hasn't been enabled? [03:23] I expect Thunderbird to support g-o-a for 12.04 [03:28] jbicha, I started looking at the crash, but it's being a pain in the ass (and I can't seem to compile gnome-contacts now), so I'll get back to it later [03:28] I may have found a way to get more information for my annoying libnl / wired and wifi connected at the same time NM bug, so I'll drop off to do some more testing [03:51] Good morning [03:51] Morning pitti. [03:52] mdeslaur: cups security fix> okay; I usually prefer uploading to Debian and syncing, but I can still do that after your upload [03:58] awesome; now keyboard *and* mouse operation of menus is broken *sigh* [04:00] dah [04:01] pitti: know much about libnl? [04:01] cyphermox: nothing at all, I'm afraid [04:01] mmkay [04:03] pitti: howdy [04:04] hey jbicha, how are you? [04:05] doing good, could you take a look at bug 859955 when you're able [04:05] Launchpad bug 859955 in ubuntu "[FFe] [needs-packaging] meta-gnome3" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/859955 [04:06] will do === Shadows` is now known as SoulShadow [04:22] Huh. Is there a UDD branch for gnome-desktop3? [04:23] RAOF: there ought to be [04:23] $ bzr branch ubuntu:gnome-desktop3 [04:23] Most recent Ubuntu version: 3.2.0-0ubuntu1 [04:23] Packaging branch status: CURRENT [04:23] RAOF: looks fine? [04:23] Ah, the ubuntu: specifier. Of course. [04:24] Clearly I haven't been touching Desktop packages enough recently :) [04:25] pitti, can you have a look at unity-greeter in the queue? [04:27] robert_ancell: sure, I'm watching the queue anyway === SoulShadow is now known as Shadows`sleep [04:56] pitti, what's the absolute last time for uploads to oneiric? midnight 29th? [04:56] robert_ancell: something around october 10 [04:57] but of course justifying an upload at that time will take some effort ;) [04:57] pitti, so when do the iso's get made for the rc? I really don't want to upload anything after that [04:57] robert_ancell: final freeze is on Thursday, so changes before can still be a bit more liberal, i. e. fix "normal" bugs as well [04:58] robert_ancell: around october 3 [05:41] good morning [05:41] bonjour didrocks, ca va? [05:41] Hey didrocks [05:41] guten morgen pitti. I'm fine, thanks, you? [05:41] hey RAOF :) [05:42] didrocks: pretty well; at least until I saw my mail box this morning :) [05:43] pitti: too many emails? :) [05:44] yeah :/ [05:52] Bah. How do I propose a merge for https://code.launchpad.net/~raof/gnome-desktop/workaround-bug-824099 ? [05:52] Or, failing that, could I get a review of that patch? :) [05:53] RAOF: "bzr lp-propose" [05:53] I find that rather easy to use [05:53] bzr lp-propose tries to merge it into lp:gnome-desktop, which isn't the packaging branch. "bzr lp-propose lp:ubuntu/gnome-desktop3" errors out with "bzr: ERROR: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/%2Bbranch/ubuntu/gnome-desktop3/ is not registered on Launchpad" [05:53] uh, what? [05:54] RAOF: it should merge into the "pull" branch [05:54] RAOF: what does "bzr info" say? [05:54] RAOF: did you do "bzr branch lp:gnome-desktop3" instead of ubuntu:gnome-desktop3? [05:55] RAOF: the other option is to "bzr lp-open", click on "propose for merging", and select lp:ubuntu/g-d3 [05:57] Ok, doing it manually worked. [05:59] https://code.launchpad.net/~raof/gnome-desktop/workaround-bug-824099/+merge/77097 is now ready for someone's review. [06:00] RAOF: can you please subscribe ubuntu-doc to the bug and ask for a string freeze exception? [06:00] erm, ubuntu-translators [06:00] Ah, yeah. Thanks. [06:00] wow, that's quite a large workaround :) [06:00] * pitti brb, testing new glib [06:01] There's a lot of boiler plate involved in getting a GL context :) [06:04] And, of course, you want to do it in a different process so that you don't crash if GL is crashy. [06:19] pitti: Done, and mail sent to translators list. [06:21] RAOF: cheers [06:48] pitti: for bug #805252, it's the new Cimi's patch introducing the issue [06:48] Launchpad bug 805252 in unity-foundations "appmenu shows nautilus menu when desktop is displayed" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/805252 [06:48] hm, I thought we had the menu in natty as well [06:48] pitti: basically, the menu is shown first if there is no renderer [06:48] or maybe I asked for keeping it, but it was removed anyway :) [06:48] hum, I guess it's when you are not in unity/unity-2d [06:48] let me look if it's this one [06:49] ah not this one [06:49] ok, this one is about the nautilus appmenu patch not being updated [06:49] as we had a tweak menu for the desktop [06:50] I pinged tedg for the last 3 months on that, raised the priority and such [06:50] seems dx doesn't care [06:50] it's really easy to break your oneiric [06:50] click on File -> New tab [06:51] shouldn't it be high? [06:52] RAOF, how does your patch affect startup time? ;) === tkamppeter__ is now known as tkamppeter [06:59] didrocks: hm, now I don't get the menu at all [06:59] pitti: oh? if you focus the desktop, no menu in the unity panel? [07:00] didrocks: ah, had to restart nautilus, now it's "working" again [07:00] didrocks: file -> new window works fine; new tab wreaks havoc, yes [07:00] I do like to be able to open bookmarks, though [07:00] but anyway, no strong opinion there, I just wondered why it was considered so urgent [07:00] pitti: right, but you can have a lot of options that are not relevant [07:01] like showing the side pane [07:01] yeah, I guess so [07:01] we had a nice menu last cycle [07:01] an the quicklist we wanted to add is relying on this patch [07:01] it just had to be updated to GNOME 3, which is what was asked to dx as they did that patch [07:01] (and it's not really trivial) [07:02] I think, as with the current options, we can break the desktop, it should be fixed before finale [07:02] I'll reping *once more* dx about it [07:06] pitti: can I reset it to high? I guess it really needs to be fixed before final freeze [07:06] aloha all [07:16] haha - I hit alt-f2, then typed "ccsm", enter and … mumble starts [07:16] mvo: known issue, targeted for next unity release for a month already… [07:17] (it happens in the dash, all lenses) [07:17] ta [07:18] pitti: I retitle the bug report to make it not ambigous [07:19] didrocks: thanks [07:19] mvo: did you get to the bottom of the ecryptfs vs mmap() issue? [07:21] kamstrup: not to the bottom unfortunately, I uploaded a "fix" that in s-c that will not use mmap plus it has a try/except to ensure it does not fail but I'm not entirely sure why it is failing on ecryptfs [07:21] kamstrup: especially since its not failing all the time for me, just sometimes [07:21] hey didrocks [07:22] good morning chrisccoulson [07:22] i tried unity again last night, and hit bug 832150 ;) [07:22] Launchpad bug 832150 in unity "ubuntu desktop unity. Mouse at the left side doesn't reveal launcher" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/832150 [07:22] how are you? :) [07:22] chrisccoulson: I'm ok, you? [07:22] mvo: that's basically the general story with ecryptfs :-/ believe me; we spend many hours on odd bugs related to it in zeitgeist [07:22] chrisccoulson: yeah, known issue as well, but I guess no bug report was opened. Thanks! targetting it! [07:22] didrocks, yeah, not too bad thanks. i'm relaxing ;) [07:22] chrisccoulson: you shouldn't connect :) [07:22] chrisccoulson: Slows it down, but hopefully not too much :/ [07:23] heh, yeah, i should sign out at some point ;) [07:23] kamstrup: meh :/ anyway, its fixed now on my box and I got at least one positive report from the bug, so hopefully its gone. but I would feel better if I fully understand the issue [07:23] * RAOF heads off for a bit; back later. [07:23] RAOF, any idea how much? we got g-s-d startup down to < 1s last week ;) [07:23] chrisccoulson: indeed! Take care of your family or I'll harass you about a thunderbird crash I had yesterday! (and as well, the thunderbird-bin which almost never quits there and so have the session logout dialog to kill it) [07:23] chrisccoulson: I'll measure it when I get back. :) [07:24] mvo: agreed [07:31] agateau, hi [07:32] tkamppeter: hi, I read the backlog of yesterday, but was offline [07:32] tkamppeter: so you want to create an appindicator using python-qt, right? [07:33] agateau, so you know that it is about bug 857929. It seems that I have fixed it by modifying hp-systray with a one-line patch (see the comments about my work in the bug) for the user who reported this bug. [07:33] Launchpad bug 857929 in hplip "hp-systray icon does nothing" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857929 [07:34] didrocks: btw, I cleaned up the pad for some packages which were already uploaded; if you do one, can you please remove it or move to "unapproved"? [07:34] agateau, this one-line patch does not make an app-indicator of hp-systray but it is a minimum-invasive solution to make it working with sni-qt, for Oneiric, as we are so close to release. [07:35] didrocks: oh, the libpeas update doesn't happen to fix bug 857348? [07:35] Launchpad bug 857348 in pygobject "All python plugins are broken by a bad import" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857348 [07:35] tkamppeter: turns out I didn't read enough backlog :) going through the report comments right now [07:36] pitti: ok, I didn't see that category, I was waiting it for being approved to remove it to avoid someone else starting it [07:36] pitti: oh right, I tried to import a python plugin and it worked, didn't notice the bug report though, do you want me to reupload with the bug #? [07:37] didrocks: nah, that's fine; great to hear! [07:37] pitti: thanks ;) [07:37] didrocks: I'll re-test it as well and close it [07:37] hah, jo is using oneiric atm, and she's just asked me "what is compiz? it's always closing unexpectedly" [07:37] pitti: yeah, double checking is nice, I tried with gedit python plugins [07:37] yeah, they fail with a linker error right now [07:38] agateau, now I have observed another bug related to hp-systray and sni-qt: In contrary to the problem of the reporter of the bug for me the icon does not show right after login. I only get it if I either start hp-toolbox or if I kill all processes of hp-systray and then start hp-systray again. In addition, when I click on the icon, it does not happen nothing, as the reporter of the bug describes, but a little gray rectangle apperas fo [07:38] r me, looks like an empty menu. [07:40] hey didrocks pitti chrisccoulson [07:40] bonjour seb128 [07:40] ca va? [07:40] pitti, how are you? [07:40] seb128: good morning [07:40] hey seb128, how are you? [07:40] tkamppeter: I just installed hplip-guy. Is there a way to fake a printer so that I can test it? [07:40] lut agateau [07:40] 'lut seb128 [07:40] pitti, yes, had a good night and it's a sunny day starting again [07:41] didrocks, pitti: seems like you guys have been busy already ;) [07:41] oh, new unity-greeter \o/ [07:41] bah something "broke" my numpad [07:42] seb128: indeed :) [07:42] I though it was temporary yesterday but it's broken again this morning after a fresh start [07:47] tkamppeter: regarding the activated() signal: you are correct when you say you won't receive it, at least not when running on Unity. On Unity, both left and right clicks show the menu. On KDE left click emits the activated() signal, right click shows the menu. This is not a bug it is part of the design of app indicators (no longer wonder which mouse button to use) [07:54] pitti: Hi Martin, today's l-s MP from me available for your consideration. :) [07:54] https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/language-selector/oneiric/+merge/77109 [07:54] It's a couple of follow-ups from your changes yesterday. [07:56] hey GunnarHj [07:56] pitti, do you know when the oneiric translations will be exported? [07:56] i.e until when translations fix will made it in Oneiric export? [07:56] tkamppeter: I plugged my printer directly to my laptop and can reproduce the bug, I am investigating [07:58] seb128: Good morning! [07:59] agateau, did you apply the one-line patch which I mentioned in comment #6 of the bug? Do you have no icon after login? And an empty menu when clicking on the icon? [08:00] seb128: I suppose around RC, as usual? [08:00] tkamppeter: I haven't applied the patch yet. I manually started the app so I can't comment on the "no icon after login". I do have an empty menu when clicking on the icon [08:00] seb128: we also have the cron jobs which auto-update the updates packages [08:00] pitti, well I'm just checking because the french guys didn't fix some of the bugs I reported yet and I'm pondering when to ping them again say "it's time guys" ;) [08:00] agateau, this empty menu is the most important part to fix [08:01] tkamppeter: understood [08:03] desrt, \o/ [08:04] thanks for fixing the disk calculation and the mimetype bugs in time for 2.30 ;-) [08:12] pitti, bug #805252, it's a bug because the desktop menu should be adapted like it was in natty [08:12] Launchpad bug 805252 in unity-foundations "appmenu shows normal nautilus menu when desktop is displayed (not the tweaked desktop one)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/805252 [08:12] pitti, i.e not list things like "open a new tab" [08:12] seb128: *nod*, already discussed with Didier [08:12] ok, I assumed it might be the case, I'm just catching up on emails and there is no comment after your question ;) [08:13] I'm commenting on the bug for the track [08:16] hey GunnarHj [08:16] GunnarHj: as for removing the languageSupport bits from langcache.py, I actually had that change, but reverted it [08:16] GunnarHj: as there is also language-selector-kde [08:17] GunnarHj: I tried to test it, but I was unable to; I didn't see it in the KDE control center, and l-s-kde is now just a control-center plugin [08:17] morning [08:17] GunnarHj: so I rather did not want to break it at this time, and just changed the GTK one [08:23] oh bother, I guess we get a useless System Settings icon in the default launcher after all [08:24] :-( [08:24] jbicha, hey [08:24] seb128: hi [08:24] good morning everyone [08:24] jbicha, do you know if somebody is pushing for the gdm update? [08:24] we should probably try to get 3.2 and the shell greeter in oneiric [08:24] but that seems stalled [08:24] kenvandine, good night? ;-) [08:25] kenvandine, you decided to stop sleeping? :-) [08:25] hehe... no i am actually up early this time :) [08:25] hey kenvandine [08:25] hum [08:25] kenvandine, it's it like 3am for you? [08:25] hey rodrigo_ [08:25] 4:25 [08:25] oh, I'm one hour off [08:25] yeah, too early :) [08:25] meeting... [08:25] hi seb128 [08:25] still very early ;-) [08:25] * kenvandine blames jasoncwarner_ :-D [08:26] seb128: GDM 3.0 works & is generally tested in Oneiric, do we want to risk trying GDM 3.2 at this point? [08:26] jbicha, well I would think the shell greeter is a good part of the GNOME 3.2 experience [08:27] pitti, ^ do you have any opinion on getting gdm 3.2 in? [08:28] jbicha: indeed [08:29] seb128: hmm, seems fairly risky and involved at this time [08:29] oh, sorry kenvandine it got cancelled [08:29] kenvandine: :( [08:29] we fixed lightdm to make itself the default on upgrades, which mitigates the risk [08:30] kenvandine: j/k [08:30] * rodrigo_ imagines kenvandine's face now :) [08:30] kenvandine: that would be cruel! [08:30] hehe [08:30] :-D [08:30] seb128: but I wouldn't veto it, as none of our derivatives uses it any more [08:30] jbicha, have you tried it? [08:31] jbicha: system settings icon in launcher> *sob* [08:31] rodrigo_: only on Fedora 16 [08:31] jbicha, maybe we could have it in the desktop PPA? [08:34] pitti: of course I'd rather have a Help button there :) but that proposal didn't get enough support [08:35] jbicha: you can discuss about it with JohnLea on #ayatana [08:36] he will comment on the bug to give some extra details btw [08:37] jbicha, he said that the bug was approched the wrong way that's why he marked the design component as opinion [08:37] i.e the bug should have been "need to make easier to access the user documentation" [08:37] then the bug can discuss solutions [08:37] rather than coming with a solution [08:43] GunnarHj: replied to the MP [08:44] pitti: team report reminder (I will probably be away during the meeting, doctor appointment, I'll make the wiki page clear enough on what's going on and will be back after) [08:44] hmm, we thought the Launcher item was the simplest fix & I did try to draw attention to the issue [08:44] https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg06306.html [08:47] jbicha, yeah, I don't say that design is right, I'm just trying to sort the "John marked the bug as Opinion without any comment" [08:50] seb128: thanks, but OPINION is basically the same as WONTFIX, maybe Ayatana uses their bugs differently but still... [08:51] jbicha, that's why I asked John to comment [08:52] jbicha, he basically told me that giving a solution rather than expressing the problem was giving an opinion, and that he doesn't consider "Opinion" as "Wontfix" and he would have "Wontfixed" the bug if he though there was no issue [08:53] jbicha, he said that somebody should open a bug about "the user documentation should be easier to access" and dup that one from it [08:53] well, let's wait for him to comment on the bug [08:59] rodrigo_, hey [08:59] rodrigo_, what are you working on? [08:59] hey seb128 [08:59] seb128, glib-networking and folks [08:59] ok, so still updates [08:59] yes, anything else you want? [08:59] oh, he was upset by what I was working on? :) [08:59] seb128: [09:00] yes, anything else you want? [09:00] --> seb128 (~seb128@ANancy-258-1-2-194.w90-39.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #ubuntu-desktop [09:00] oh, he was upset by what I was working on? :) [09:00] ups [09:00] sorry, unity focus issue I closed the wrong dialog [09:00] :) [09:00] rodrigo_, not really, I was wondering about the bugs assigned to you since we are getting close from freeze [09:00] there is a g-s-d segfault which still collect quite some duplicates [09:00] hmm, which bugs do I have assigned from the oneiric list? [09:01] * rodrigo_ looks [09:01] rodrigo_, do you think it would be easy to add back a "never" option to the "turn screen off" option? [09:01] seb128, hmm, not sure, I'll check [09:01] seb128, ah, you mean http://launchpad.net/bugs/832603 ? [09:01] Ubuntu bug 832603 in gnome-settings-daemon "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in g_simple_async_result_complete()" [Critical,Triaged] [09:01] yes [09:02] ok, I've been looking at it, but not sure at all what's causing it [09:02] looking again [09:02] seb128, that's the only one I have in the oneiric list, do you have any other? [09:03] rodrigo_, is bug #840535 fixed? [09:03] Launchpad bug 840535 in gnome-control-center "High contrast inverse large theme does not use large font" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/840535 [09:03] hmm [09:03] yes, it is indeed [09:03] rodrigo_, how did you fall so low on assigned bugs? ;) [09:03] what is pedro doing? :p [09:03] the a11y theme should include a suggested font [09:03] seb128, I paid him :) [09:04] seb128: he just rocks? [09:04] also, having him on vacation helped :) [09:04] rodrigo_, well, finish with updates, then it would be nice to check how easy it would be to add the "never" option [09:04] and yes, I also rock :) [09:04] seb128, ok [09:04] I think quite some users will want it [09:04] we got several people who came with usecases [09:04] like using screen for monitoring and they don't want it to turn off [09:05] rodrigo_, you do rock indeed ;) [09:05] :) [09:05] rodrigo_, I might triage and assign you a few gcc and gsd issues later [09:05] ok [09:09] is http://status.qa.ubuntu.com down? [09:11] for me, too [09:14] I have a suggestion to make the printing-related part of the development of Ubuntu even better. I can buy HP printer worth 10000 USD every year on HP's cost, from this year's budget I could also buy some printers for UDSes and Sprints (which will travel around from event to event) and so we can do better testing on the events (and also print boarding passes), for example for things like bug 802304 and bug 857929. WDYT? Or should we ta [09:14] ke this to today's meeting? [09:14] Launchpad bug 802304 in xubuntu-meta "FFe: Take hplip-gui into the standard installation/live session of Ubuntu/Edubuntu" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/802304 [09:14] Launchpad bug 857929 in hplip "hp-systray icon does nothing" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857929 [09:15] I could also equip certain desktop developers with an HP printer. [09:22] pitti: Thanks for your comments. I really think we should handle that issue in LangCache.py, or else it would get messy on upgraded systems. [09:22] Instead of removing the lines, how about [09:22] if 'kde-' in sys.argv[0]: [09:22] ... [09:22] GunnarHj: how would that not break ugrades? [09:22] GunnarHj: how does it break upgrades in the first place? [09:22] the languageSupport* lists should be empty, and as the GUI does not use them, they should be harmless [09:23] I still need to take a look at that bug [09:23] * pitti desperately tries to catch up a little on his email [09:23] nice https://plus.google.com/u/0/108611501090787019364/posts/fNecdU95gJj [09:23]