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ScottK | Rhonda: IA-32 libs didn't even sound like a good idea at the time, it was just something that could be done quickly. | 04:33 |
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Rhonda | ssh, don't debunk my catch phrase :) | 06:18 |
ajmitch | don't let facts get in the way of a good argument? :) | 06:23 |
Rhonda | 'sactly! | 06:34 |
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dholbach | good morning | 06:54 |
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Rhonda | huhm | 07:28 |
Rhonda | I think I now saw the issue with packages.ubuntu.com myself … | 07:28 |
Rhonda | \o/ tumbleweed :) | 08:30 |
tumbleweed | Rhonda: lintian wasn't very impressed with it, though | 08:33 |
Rhonda | hmm? | 08:47 |
tumbleweed | E: gitolite: control-file-has-bad-permissions md5sums 0664 != 0644 | 08:47 |
tumbleweed | E: gitolite: control-file-has-bad-permissions templates 0664 != 0644 | 08:47 |
Rhonda | duh, how did that happen? Doesn't over here | 08:47 |
Rhonda | Ah, some umask probably playing into it on the build server | 08:48 |
tumbleweed | yeah, ubuntu changed umask recently | 08:48 |
Rhonda | but there is this "find $(TMP) ! -type l -print0 2>/dev/null | xargs -0r chmod go=rX,u+rw,a-s" in debian/rules which should adjust that? | 08:49 |
Rhonda | ah, wait, templates and md5sums, the control files | 08:49 |
tumbleweed | heh, I see Rhonda doesn't like packaging helpers :P | 08:49 |
Rhonda | which get generated _after_ the fixperms | 08:49 |
Rhonda | Hey, I wanted to know what kind of magic was going on in the background. Apparently not that much. :) | 08:50 |
Rhonda | tumbleweed: not liking is based on bad experiences where I had to do handstand coding to get rid of some annoyances, but that was years ago :) | 08:52 |
tumbleweed | it's a rather short rules for a no-helper package, I guess it helps that it's a nice simple one | 08:54 |
Rhonda | I tried to keep it short and simple so that it can be used as example :) | 08:57 |
Rhonda | Maybe I should throw in comments like "# this is the magic that dh_fixperms is actually doing" | 08:57 |
Rhonda | For more complex packages it though gets complicated and irritating. Don't look at spl's debian/rules. ;) | 08:58 |
Rhonda | Hmm, not that overwhelming than I thought, but that might just be me and my experience with code … 226 lines | 08:59 |
Rhonda | tumbleweed: Should I fix the lintian issues you are seeing and request again, does that mean the package is now blocked, or is it even though it's an error acceptable? | 09:01 |
tumbleweed | I'd either suggest uploading 2.0.3-1ubuntu1 with that fixed, or just fix that in Debian and sync. If you made other changes in Debian too, I'd want to review it again | 09:02 |
Rhonda | I'd fix some other lintin output too | 09:03 |
tumbleweed | if that's manpages, that's fine with me | 09:03 |
Rhonda | debian-rules-missing-recommended-target | 09:03 |
Rhonda | out-of-date-copyright-format-uri | 09:03 |
Rhonda | Those three lines | 09:04 |
tumbleweed | fine | 09:04 |
Laney | the guy requesting the inkscape backport is my new best friend | 09:06 |
hrw | ok. I do not catch it. Package libc6-dev-armhf-cross provides libc6-dev-armhf-armel-cross but gcc-4.6-multilib-arm-linux-gnueabi depends on libc6-dev-armhf-armel-cross and complains on install that libc6-dev-armhf-armel-cross is not installed. Why "provides" does not solve it? | 09:13 |
Laney | is the depends versioned? | 09:14 |
hrw | Laney: package is 2.13 and depends is on >= 2.5 | 09:15 |
Laney | versioned deps on virtual packages won't work http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-virtual | 09:16 |
hrw | thanks | 09:17 |
hrw | will have to create dummy packages then | 09:17 |
hrw | let amd speeds up with buldozer cpus... I need to upgrade my machine | 09:18 |
Rhonda | tumbleweed: uploaded. :P | 09:37 |
Rhonda | hmm. Now I have gitolite_2.0.3-2_source.changes - what next? Never used syncpackage before, where to upload that to? :) | 10:36 |
Rhonda | And why did syncpackage re-sign the .dsc file while it already had a good signature? | 10:39 |
Laney | are you trying to do a --no-lp upload? | 10:39 |
Rhonda | No clue. :) | 10:40 |
Rhonda | So far I only did upload to my PPA, and did requestsync :) | 10:40 |
tumbleweed | oh, sorry Rhonda I should have been clearer when I suggested using syncpackage :) | 10:40 |
tumbleweed | I meant a new syncpackage that can do LP native syncing | 10:41 |
Rhonda | No problem, I want to learn. :) | 10:41 |
tumbleweed | >= 0.129 | 10:41 |
Rhonda | ubuntu-dev-tools 0.101 | 10:43 |
tumbleweed | ah, we don't have a backport to debian stable | 10:43 |
Laney | I bet that's a rather small userbase :-) | 10:44 |
tumbleweed | although the PPA build for maverick might work on there | 10:44 |
Rhonda | Laney could do it, he got upload permissions to backports recently. :P | 10:44 |
tumbleweed | otherwise, it should run fine out of a bzr checkout | 10:44 |
Laney | it requires some other backports too | 10:44 |
Laney | since some scripts moved about | 10:44 |
Rhonda | Anyway, I let it rest for now, will try at home from my wheezy laptop | 10:44 |
tumbleweed | yeah, stuff moved to devscripts, distro-info, and lp-tools | 10:44 |
Laney | bdrung said a backport to natty would be too hard, so stable … | 10:45 |
tumbleweed | Laney: OTOH, backporting this specific feature anywhere wouldn't be that hard | 10:45 |
ScottK | I'm fine with that. | 10:45 |
bdrung | Laney: you can do it, if you backport devscripts, distro-info, lp-tools, and python-debian | 10:45 |
Laney | if [list of tiresome things] | 10:46 |
Laney | I wouldn't know enough about how cherry-pickable syncpackage is — didn't it require some changes in ubuntutools/? | 10:47 |
Laney | but, I support doing that | 10:47 |
tumbleweed | I'm happy to do some exploration into that | 10:47 |
Rhonda | Laney: I wouldn't accept a cherry-picked backport anyway. :P | 10:48 |
Laney | I was referring to natty-backports | 10:49 |
tumbleweed | this is a generally useful thing to backport in Ubuntu | 10:49 |
tumbleweed | probably less so in Debian | 10:49 |
tumbleweed | talking of which, I still need someone to review my u-d-t SRUs in Ubuntu. I don't like verifying my own SRUs | 10:51 |
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Laney | Rhonda: btw, is there any plan for backports integrating with the bts? Like it learning about backports versions and so on. | 10:53 |
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Rhonda | Laney: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/06/msg00247.html and following | 11:30 |
Rhonda | Laney: tl;dr - no version tracking in the BTS, but most important: No concept of different maintainers for a package | 11:32 |
Laney | well yeah, but that's not unsolvable | 11:33 |
Laney | if backporting, change the maintainer and let the bts know that different versions can have different maintainers | 11:33 |
Laney | but i will read it | 11:33 |
Rhonda | I'll tell don that we have a volunteer \o/ | 11:33 |
Rhonda | But that's exact the issue: The bts doesn't has the concept yet that different versions can have different maintainers | 11:34 |
Laney | or have backports bugs sent to some pts keyword that the maintainer isn't subscribed to by default | 11:36 |
Rhonda | There are loads of ideas how it could be done, but noone doing the actual code. The issue is known since a pretty long time now. (in this case) unfortunately there isn't a canonical behind Debian that would make sure that such things get done in a timely manner, and it didn't itch noone big enough yet to fix it | 11:40 |
Rhonda | I'd be more than interested in digging into it, but there are so much other tasks that I look after that otherwise would be lying around because they are also uninteresting to others | 11:41 |
Laney | :-) | 11:41 |
Rhonda | Heck, I haven't got to looking at the squeeze RC graph since a few months, and squeeze is meant to be a supported release. %-/ | 11:42 |
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tumbleweed | Laney, bdrung: I did a quick and dirty backport in bug 860506 | 12:10 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 860506 in natty-backports "Backport native package syncing to ubuntu-dev-tools" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/860506 | 12:10 |
tumbleweed | there is unecessary stuff included, but I don't think it's dangerous, and I preferred to backport whole files where possible | 12:10 |
Laney | cool | 12:12 |
Laney | it'd be good to test various types of sync | 12:12 |
* tumbleweed only did simulated requestsync and syncpackage | 12:13 | |
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hrw | why when I am dputting http://paste.ubuntu.com/697897/ to ppa I do not get orig.tar.gz uploaded http://paste.ubuntu.com/697898/ ? | 14:11 |
Zhenech | did you include it in "build"? | 14:11 |
hrw | good point. _source.changes lacks it | 14:12 |
Zhenech | -sa to debbuild | 14:12 |
hrw | Zhenech: thx | 14:14 |
Zhenech | it defaults to include it in -1 uploads and do not in everything else | 14:14 |
hrw | but there was no uploads of it previously and package is -1~linaro5 for a reason | 14:15 |
hrw | ok, /me -> code | 14:15 |
Zhenech | weill, -1~linaro5 isn't -1 ;) | 14:15 |
Zhenech | and debuild doesnt know that you didnt upload anything else yet | 14:17 |
hrw | yep | 14:17 |
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SMJ | is Box2D going to be updated any time soon? | 17:26 |
SMJ | oh, feature freeze. | 17:28 |
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tumbleweed | SMJ: yeah, it would require lots of jumping up and down to make it happen (and a good reason, and some testing) | 18:40 |
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