| c_smith | yay! finally got a working Samba share! :D | 01:32 |
|---|---|---|
| c_smith | the previous attempt I made, Windows couldn't connect, don't know about other Linux or Macs, but Windows at least can now connect. | 01:33 |
| nathwill | haha! andoirc ftw! | 01:37 |
| nathwill | we'll see how long the battery lasts like this | 01:39 |
| c_smith | I have 2 high capacity batteries for this laptop, one is from my mother when she got rid of her laptop which thankfully was the same model as this one. | 02:07 |
| bkerensa | OpenBox come to me! | 06:37 |
| bkerensa | :D | 06:37 |
| nathwill | morning all | 14:11 |
| bkerensa | Hey Nathwill | 15:45 |
| bkerensa | OpenBox ftw | 15:45 |
| bkerensa | :P | 15:45 |
| nathwill | yeah? | 15:45 |
| bkerensa | across the boad | 15:45 |
| bkerensa | :D | 15:46 |
| nathwill | it's pretty sweet once you get the rc.xml and the menu.xml set up the way you like it :D | 15:46 |
| bkerensa | Ubuntu Server Base with OpenBox | 15:46 |
| bkerensa | :D | 15:46 |
| nathwill | sweet | 15:46 |
| nathwill | what're you using for a tray? | 15:46 |
| * nathwill runs off to break | 15:46 | |
| bkerensa | adesklet | 15:46 |
| bkerensa | nathwill: :P | 15:57 |
| * nathwill returns | 16:08 | |
| bkerensa | indeed | 16:12 |
| bkerensa | :D | 16:12 |
| bkerensa | nathwill: I also installed CB for dual-boot on my laptop | 16:13 |
| nathwill | oh yeah? | 16:13 |
| bkerensa | yeah | 16:13 |
| nathwill | you steal the .config dir for the openbox conf? | 16:13 |
| bkerensa | ? | 16:13 |
| bkerensa | it was configed out of the box | 16:13 |
| bkerensa | :D | 16:13 |
| nathwill | hrm | 16:13 |
| bkerensa | didnt have to do anything.... looks just like your setup | 16:13 |
| bkerensa | :D | 16:13 |
| bkerensa | identical | 16:13 |
| bkerensa | except for the wallpaper | 16:14 |
| nathwill | i dunno what the default openbox config is for ubuntu | 16:14 |
| bkerensa | no no | 16:14 |
| bkerensa | on CB | 16:14 |
| bkerensa | :D | 16:14 |
| nathwill | oh | 16:14 |
| nathwill | gotcha | 16:14 |
| nathwill | yeah, that's a good thing. :) | 16:14 |
| bkerensa | OpenBox on Ubuntu was fun.... I found a howto | 16:14 |
| bkerensa | :D | 16:14 |
| nathwill | nice | 16:14 |
| bkerensa | kinda surprised CB doesnt offer a e-mail client by default | 16:15 |
| nathwill | i like the keyboard shortcuts in CB, which is why i tend to steal the configs for other dists i use OpenBox on | 16:15 |
| nathwill | well | 16:15 |
| bkerensa | what do they want me to use Pine :D | 16:15 |
| nathwill | no, mutt | 16:16 |
| bkerensa | lol | 16:16 |
| nathwill | mutt, w3m, moc, mc, identicurse | 16:16 |
| nathwill | fugget about gtk sucka | 16:16 |
| bkerensa | what do you use? | 16:17 |
| nathwill | for mail? | 16:17 |
| nathwill | claws-mail | 16:17 |
| nathwill | with a different theme than the default | 16:17 |
| nathwill | cuz the default is ugly as sin | 16:17 |
| nathwill | but claws-mail has fantastic filtering and processing rule tools | 16:18 |
| bkerensa | Hmm | 16:18 |
| nathwill | i usually use that or thunderbird | 16:19 |
| * bkerensa has to use Thunderbird.... LastPass Support, WiseStamp and other features | 16:19 | |
| bkerensa | :D | 16:19 |
| nathwill | i'm not at all a fan of evolution | 16:19 |
| bkerensa | nathwill: What do they call the thunderbird package for CB/Debian? | 16:21 |
| nathwill | icedove | 16:21 |
| * bkerensa tried mozilla-thunderbird | 16:21 | |
| bkerensa | I thought so | 16:21 |
| bkerensa | :P | 16:21 |
| nathwill | yeah, icedove and iceweasel are the non-mozilla-branded packages | 16:21 |
| nathwill | but it's the exact same software | 16:21 |
| bkerensa | LOL | 16:21 |
| bkerensa | nathwill: What are you using for music? | 16:22 |
| bkerensa | :D | 16:22 |
| nathwill | deadbeef | 16:22 |
| nathwill | depends on what you want | 16:22 |
| bkerensa | :P | 16:22 |
| nathwill | i use the last.fm client most of the time | 16:23 |
| * bkerensa just installed rhythmbox | 16:23 | |
| bkerensa | :D | 16:23 |
| bkerensa | which has Last.fm plus everything else | 16:23 |
| nathwill | i like deadbeef for simplicity and lightweightness, but the mpd+sonata combination is also very popular in CB community | 16:23 |
| * bkerensa is kind of considering paying the monthly cost of Spotify | 16:23 | |
| bkerensa | =/ | 16:23 |
| nathwill | it's bloody retarded that their native linux client requires a paid account | 16:23 |
| bkerensa | yeah | 16:23 |
| bkerensa | their excuse is rubbish | 16:24 |
| bkerensa | saying they dont know how to put in ads | 16:24 |
| bkerensa | honestly though Premium was nice | 16:24 |
| bkerensa | the offline mode for my phone and laptop | 16:25 |
| bkerensa | :D | 16:25 |
| bkerensa | But now you have to have Facebook | 16:25 |
| nathwill | yeaaaah | 16:25 |
| nathwill | not so cool | 16:25 |
| nathwill | slacker is good, and their new client has offline caching | 16:25 |
| nathwill | but i don't think they have a native linux client | 16:25 |
| nathwill | it's all done thru the browser | 16:26 |
| bkerensa | nathwill: How do I update the right-click menu? It didnt automatically add thunderbird and rhythmbox | 16:26 |
| bkerensa | :D | 16:26 |
| nathwill | it never does, that's what's great | 16:26 |
| nathwill | are you in CB? | 16:26 |
| nathwill | or ubuntu? | 16:26 |
| bkerensa | CB | 16:27 |
| bkerensa | menu.xml? | 16:27 |
| nathwill | settings->openbox->gui menu editor | 16:27 |
| nathwill | or menu.xml | 16:27 |
| nathwill | for the menu, i find it easier to use the gui (obmenu) | 16:27 |
| bkerensa | uhhh | 16:29 |
| bkerensa | derp derp | 16:29 |
| bkerensa | why did it not add to the menu? | 16:29 |
| * bkerensa edited the menu.xml and added a item and saved | 16:29 | |
| bkerensa | =o | 16:29 |
| nathwill | openbox --reconfigure ??? | 16:30 |
| nathwill | may need to reload it | 16:30 |
| nathwill | i don't have to reconfigure after using obmenu, but you might need to if you do it by hand | 16:30 |
| bkerensa | yep | 16:30 |
| bkerensa | :) | 16:31 |
| nathwill | cool | 16:31 |
| bkerensa | just had to reload | 16:31 |
| bkerensa | odd :P | 16:31 |
| bkerensa | notably still some things that suck about LastPass | 16:32 |
| * bkerensa uses 12-13 character strong passwords | 16:32 | |
| bkerensa | so if I ever nuke one of my boxes its a fun process of resyncing everything | 16:33 |
| bkerensa | :D | 16:33 |
| nathwill | i bet | 16:33 |
| nathwill | i just have a funky algorthim i run through in my head to generate the pass | 16:36 |
| bkerensa | LOL | 16:37 |
| nathwill | they're pseudo-random, and... between 10-20 char depending on the service | 16:37 |
| bkerensa | well for most sites I use a 13 char strong pass | 16:37 |
| bkerensa | then for like two or three things I use a similar 12 char strong pass (with a few changed chars) | 16:37 |
| bkerensa | idk I imagine my pass and setup is more secure than most companies | 16:38 |
| bkerensa | ;) | 16:38 |
| bkerensa | I'm behind three firewalls | 16:38 |
| bkerensa | :P | 16:38 |
| nathwill | yikes | 16:38 |
| bkerensa | one at the gateway.... one at the router and another on my hub | 16:38 |
| bkerensa | :D | 16:38 |
| bkerensa | although I think I might setup a server in our telco closet | 16:39 |
| bkerensa | they have a rack in their but no servers | 16:39 |
| bkerensa | :) | 16:39 |
| bkerensa | just phone stuffs | 16:39 |
| bkerensa | In fact they have a weird vault of a thing that houses the phone stuff it looks like a safe with a front safety glass panel.... I think IntegraTelecom handles that though | 16:40 |
| nathwill | interesting | 16:41 |
| bkerensa | nathwill: We should grab sushi soon ;) I know a good place out towards your neck of the woods | 16:44 |
| nathwill | hellz yeah | 16:45 |
| nathwill | anything other than pasta, i'm down for | 16:45 |
| bkerensa | lol | 16:46 |
| bkerensa | maybe we can get Brian_H to duck out for some sushi ;) Idk if Indianians like Sushi though | 16:46 |
| bkerensa | :P | 16:46 |
| bkerensa | Hmm | 16:48 |
| bkerensa | Alright perfect, we're in for the t-shirts Ben, let me know next steps? | 16:49 |
| bkerensa | Thanks, | 16:49 |
| bkerensa | Eric | 16:49 |
| bkerensa | looks like we got t-shirts | 16:49 |
| bkerensa | :D | 16:49 |
| bkerensa | for Ocelot release | 16:49 |
| Brian_H | lol | 16:50 |
| bkerensa | Shirts are expensive | 16:51 |
| Brian_H | yes they are lol | 16:51 |
| bkerensa | I told them $23-24 a pop | 16:51 |
| bkerensa | and they were like so $300 or $2000 | 16:51 |
| bkerensa | I said I estimate around $250 | 16:51 |
| nathwill | http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/from-desert-to-web-bringing-dead-sea.html | 17:22 |
| bkerensa | :( | 17:23 |
| * bkerensa is hating Google right now | 17:23 | |
| bkerensa | finally | 17:24 |
| bkerensa | :P | 17:24 |
| bkerensa | their smtp is constantly down | 17:24 |
| nathwill | you should host a mail server of your own! | 17:30 |
| nathwill | then you can spend time hating yourself! | 17:31 |
| tgm4883 | I am literally doing this guy's job today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGS2tKQhdhY | 17:39 |
| nathwill | that is the best movie ever | 17:39 |
| tgm4883 | agreed | 17:39 |
| bkerensa | nathwill: For redundancy local hosting of a mail server is unfeasible | 17:58 |
| bkerensa | :P | 17:58 |
| bkerensa | tgm4883: I sent a mail to the list asking for Feedback on the Ocelot Release Party.... I'm thinking waiting a week or two after the 13th might be good | 17:58 |
| bkerensa | It would help me out too because I'm still working to get stuff ready like t-shirts | 17:59 |
| bkerensa | and food | 17:59 |
| tgm4883 | bkerensa, yea that might be better | 17:59 |
| bkerensa | BTW! | 17:59 |
| tgm4883 | at least doing it the weekend after, not during the week | 17:59 |
| bkerensa | IF ANYONE IS GOOD AT THE GIMP AND WANTS TO HELP DESIGN SHIRTS LET ME KNOW | 17:59 |
| bkerensa | :P | 17:59 |
| bkerensa | Eucalyptus will be sponsoring our t-shirts | 17:59 |
| tgm4883 | bkerensa, you might want to be a little more specific | 18:00 |
| * bkerensa is still looking for a food/snack sponsor | 18:00 | |
| bkerensa | tgm4883: More specific? | 18:00 |
| bkerensa | :D | 18:00 |
| tgm4883 | <bkerensa> IF ANYONE IS GOOD AT THE GNU Image Manipulation Program AND WANTS TO HELP DESIGN SHIRTS LET ME KNOW | 18:00 |
| tgm4883 | fixed | 18:00 |
| bkerensa | :P | 18:00 |
| tgm4883 | cause you could get a lot of unwanted help from people good at the gimp | 18:01 |
| bkerensa | nathwill: How do I launch TweetDeck on CB? :) | 18:03 |
| nathwill | tweetdeck? | 18:35 |
| nathwill | isn't that an adobe air app? | 18:35 |
| nathwill | ^bkerensa | 18:36 |
| bkerensa | nathwill: Yeah | 18:36 |
| bkerensa | =/ | 18:36 |
| nathwill | so ya just need to install adobe air and then install tweetdeck | 18:39 |
| bkerensa | I have | 18:39 |
| nathwill | ok | 18:39 |
| bkerensa | but how do I make it launch from menu.xml | 18:39 |
| bkerensa | ;) | 18:39 |
| nathwill | ah | 18:39 |
| nathwill | what command do you use to launch it at cli? | 18:39 |
| nathwill | i don't really know much about adobe air | 18:41 |
| bkerensa | I have no idea | 18:42 |
| bkerensa | :P | 18:42 |
| nathwill | i think you just put in the command for adobe-air with the application as parameter $1 | 18:42 |
| nathwill | hrm | 18:43 |
| nathwill | google is not helpful in this regard | 18:43 |
| bkerensa | yeah | 18:43 |
| bkerensa | --> /opt/TweetDeck/bin/TweetDeck | 18:43 |
| bkerensa | should be command | 18:43 |
| nathwill | hrm | 18:43 |
| bkerensa | but tweetdeck went somewhere weird on CB | 18:43 |
| bkerensa | and I cannot find it | 18:44 |
| bkerensa | =o | 18:44 |
| nathwill | whereis TweetDeck ? | 18:44 |
| bkerensa | nothing | 18:44 |
| bkerensa | LOL | 18:44 |
| nathwill | which? | 18:44 |
| bkerensa | WAIT | 18:44 |
| bkerensa | oooooo | 18:44 |
| nathwill | which TweetDeck? | 18:44 |
| nathwill | eh? | 18:44 |
| bkerensa | I installed it on my laptop | 18:44 |
| bkerensa | not on my desktop yet | 18:44 |
| bkerensa | =o | 18:44 |
| nathwill | ROFL | 18:44 |
| nathwill | excellent | 18:44 |
| nathwill | so you installed CB on multiple pc's? :D | 18:44 |
| nathwill | woo hoo! | 18:44 |
| bkerensa | umm yeah | 18:45 |
| bkerensa | shh | 18:45 |
| bkerensa | :P | 18:45 |
| nathwill | pffft. | 18:45 |
| bkerensa | dont want the Canonical overlords to hear about that | 18:45 |
| bkerensa | :D | 18:45 |
| nathwill | well, you see... it's really Ubuntu w/ Openbox... you see... *cough* | 18:46 |
| thefinn93 | https://imgur.com/ffUjp | 19:02 |
| thefinn93 | Looks like it's gonna be cloudy with a chance of Debian | 19:02 |
| nathwill | lol | 19:05 |
| nathwill | http://edos.debian.net/weather/ | 19:13 |
| bkerensa | nathwill: icedove is weak sauce | 19:14 |
| nathwill | it's... the same as thunderbird dude | 19:14 |
| bkerensa | nathwill: Thats a negative ghost rider :P | 19:15 |
| bkerensa | Its not syncing my Gapps labels | 19:15 |
| nathwill | pfft | 19:16 |
| nathwill | no comment | 19:16 |
| bkerensa | :P | 19:16 |
| bkerensa | why cause you run your own mailserver ? | 19:16 |
| bkerensa | :P | 19:16 |
| nathwill | yep | 19:17 |
| bkerensa | :P | 19:18 |
| bkerensa | and what happens if Linode has an outage? | 19:18 |
| bkerensa | :D | 19:18 |
| bkerensa | you lose mail :P | 19:19 |
| nathwill | never happened yet | 19:24 |
| nathwill | lol | 19:24 |
| nathwill | and besides... that issue exists with all service providers | 19:24 |
| bkerensa | I had three outages in under a year with Linode | 19:29 |
| bkerensa | :D | 19:29 |
| bkerensa | Now mind you that was outages | 19:30 |
| bkerensa | sometimes the entire host machine would somehow mysteriously lock up | 19:30 |
| bkerensa | :D | 19:30 |
| bkerensa | which they did not consider an outage | 19:30 |
| nathwill | where were you located? | 19:31 |
| bkerensa | Even Linode's major fanboys dont suggest using a Linode for e-mail | 19:31 |
| bkerensa | UK and Fremont | 19:31 |
| nathwill | hrm | 19:31 |
| bkerensa | Fremont has a DC wide outage | 19:31 |
| nathwill | i was in Fremont | 19:31 |
| nathwill | weird | 19:31 |
| bkerensa | and UK had issues | 19:31 |
| bkerensa | yeah | 19:31 |
| nathwill | still am in fremont | 19:31 |
| bkerensa | Yeah oddly only half their host machines went down | 19:31 |
| bkerensa | :P | 19:31 |
| bkerensa | Linode doesnt explain much | 19:31 |
| bkerensa | they did say it was DC wide but somehow it didnt effect all their boxes | 19:31 |
| bkerensa | :P | 19:32 |
| bkerensa | nathwill: http://status.linode.com/ | 19:33 |
| bkerensa | Your lucky | 19:34 |
| bkerensa | Fremont has issues a lot | 19:34 |
| bkerensa | I got downtime in Nov, May and Aug just in Fremont | 19:35 |
| bkerensa | :D | 19:35 |
| nathwill | yeah, that's weird | 19:35 |
| bkerensa | I guess its better then the DC getting robber or exploding | 19:35 |
| bkerensa | :P | 19:35 |
| bkerensa | ThePlanet had a DC explosion | 19:35 |
| bkerensa | and their was a DC in chicago that got robbed | 19:35 |
| nathwill | that's really cool | 19:36 |
| bkerensa | http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2007/11/04/armed-robbery-at-chicago-data-center/ | 19:36 |
| nathwill | cut through an exterior wall... lmao | 19:39 |
| bkerensa | LOL | 19:41 |
| nathwill | http://schlem.deviantart.com/#/d3h7w7q | 19:43 |
| nathwill | i'm going to start slapping these everywhere | 19:43 |
| bkerensa | slapping them everywhere? As in make stickers? | 19:55 |
| bkerensa | People who put price as $2 on CL for servers make me so mad | 19:59 |
| bkerensa | :P | 19:59 |
| c_smith | hello, got down to Fry's this morning, found out my original price range wouldn't cut it for the type of PC I want to build: a gaming PC. | 20:23 |
| c_smith | $800-$900 is what I should be aiming for, not $500 with $200 as a cushion. | 20:24 |
| bkerensa | -o | 20:28 |
| c_smith | ayup, gonna be closer to Christmas when I get the money for it, possibly in January. | 20:41 |
| c_smith | bkerensa, if possible, I'd like to run the parts list by ya and get your take on them. | 20:42 |
| bkerensa | sure send it in pm | 21:22 |
| c_smith | ok | 21:24 |
| c_smith | any luck on a space for the release party? | 22:01 |
| bkerensa | still waiting | 22:10 |
| bkerensa | these kinds of things take a month or so to setup | 22:10 |
| bkerensa | and its still convention season | 22:10 |
| bkerensa | PuppetLabs on the 13th was kind of a best bet consider location, space, amenities since people want a weekend I have no idea | 22:12 |
| bkerensa | Some UG's pay a couple hundred a month just to have a place to do meetings | 22:12 |
| bkerensa | like Nedspace membership | 22:12 |
| === Brian_H_ is now known as Brian_H | ||
| bkerensa | :D | 22:25 |
| bkerensa | Damn my site loads fast | 22:25 |
| bkerensa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0Ke4LL0hIc | 22:25 |
| bkerensa | My page load times embarrass sites like AOL or Engadget | 22:25 |
| bkerensa | :P | 22:25 |
| bkerensa | Brian_H: Much props you guys have a fast site | 22:37 |
| Brian_H | sweet :) | 22:37 |
| bkerensa | Brian_H: Faster than Ubuntu.com or Redhat.com | 22:38 |
| bkerensa | :D | 22:38 |
| bkerensa | 4.3 second load time | 22:38 |
| c_smith | I bet. | 22:38 |
| bkerensa | Ubuntu.com 7 seconds and Redhat 6.7 | 22:39 |
| bkerensa | :D | 22:39 |
| Brian_H | not for long we are working on a revamp lol | 22:39 |
| bkerensa | LOL | 22:39 |
| bkerensa | You use a CMS platform? | 22:39 |
| Brian_H | yea we will be using joomla | 22:39 |
| c_smith | has anyone heard Dave-SB's version of Toccata and Fugue? pretty sick | 22:41 |
| bkerensa | Brian_H: WHAT??? | 22:47 |
| bkerensa | =o | 22:47 |
| bkerensa | Serious? | 22:47 |
| Brian_H | yea for what we are doing its a better solution than the alternatives that were presented | 22:47 |
| bkerensa | Joomla is like the most insecure CMS platform their is though | 22:47 |
| bkerensa | :P | 22:47 |
| bkerensa | Harvard used Joomla until they got hacked | 22:48 |
| bkerensa | :P | 22:48 |
| Brian_H | doh | 22:49 |
| bkerensa | :P | 22:49 |
| Brian_H | I'll have to tell the admins to lock it down | 22:49 |
| bkerensa | yeah :) | 22:49 |
| bkerensa | a lot of modifications :D | 22:49 |
| bkerensa | atleast you didnt say "Were moving to PHPNuke" | 22:50 |
| bkerensa | :D | 22:50 |
| Brian_H | hahaha this is very true | 22:50 |
| c_smith | what is PHPnuke and why is it so bad? | 22:51 |
| bkerensa | its a very old php based portal software :P | 22:52 |
| bkerensa | imho the top three most insecure CMS platforms are PHPNuke, Joomla and Typo3 | 22:53 |
| bkerensa | :D | 22:53 |
| Brian_H | oh good, firefox 7 is out, was wondering when they were going to replace 6.02 ... it was getting quite old | 22:53 |
| bkerensa | yeah | 22:53 |
| bkerensa | ? | 22:53 |
| bkerensa | Im still hoping FF makes major improvements in speed | 22:53 |
| bkerensa | :D | 22:53 |
| Brian_H | well yea 6.0.2 is like what a week old? I mean comon! talk about a long release cycle | 22:53 |
| c_smith | so the FF 7 update finally made it to the Update servers? | 22:53 |
| Brian_H | oh not yet | 22:54 |
| bkerensa | probably in a few hours | 22:54 |
| Brian_H | not really looking forward to it breaking all my addons again lol | 22:54 |
| c_smith | might as well check.... wonder if there's a way to check the build status. | 22:54 |
| nathwill | and the award for the most secure cms platform goes tooo.... jekyll! | 23:16 |
| c_smith | what about Mr. Hyde? | 23:19 |
| nathwill | octopress? | 23:25 |
| nathwill | well... i guess that wouldn't really work | 23:26 |
| nathwill | cuz octopress is the more dapper of the two | 23:26 |
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