[01:32] yay! finally got a working Samba share! :D [01:33] the previous attempt I made, Windows couldn't connect, don't know about other Linux or Macs, but Windows at least can now connect. [01:37] haha! andoirc ftw! [01:39] we'll see how long the battery lasts like this [02:07] I have 2 high capacity batteries for this laptop, one is from my mother when she got rid of her laptop which thankfully was the same model as this one. [06:37] OpenBox come to me! [06:37] :D [14:11] morning all [15:45] Hey Nathwill [15:45] OpenBox ftw [15:45] :P [15:45] yeah? [15:45] across the boad [15:46] :D [15:46] it's pretty sweet once you get the rc.xml and the menu.xml set up the way you like it :D [15:46] Ubuntu Server Base with OpenBox [15:46] :D [15:46] sweet [15:46] what're you using for a tray? [15:46] * nathwill runs off to break [15:46] adesklet [15:57] nathwill: :P [16:08] * nathwill returns [16:12] indeed [16:12] :D [16:13] nathwill: I also installed CB for dual-boot on my laptop [16:13] oh yeah? [16:13] yeah [16:13] you steal the .config dir for the openbox conf? [16:13] ? [16:13] it was configed out of the box [16:13] :D [16:13] hrm [16:13] didnt have to do anything.... looks just like your setup [16:13] :D [16:13] identical [16:14] except for the wallpaper [16:14] i dunno what the default openbox config is for ubuntu [16:14] no no [16:14] on CB [16:14] :D [16:14] oh [16:14] gotcha [16:14] yeah, that's a good thing. :) [16:14] OpenBox on Ubuntu was fun.... I found a howto [16:14] :D [16:14] nice [16:15] kinda surprised CB doesnt offer a e-mail client by default [16:15] i like the keyboard shortcuts in CB, which is why i tend to steal the configs for other dists i use OpenBox on [16:15] well [16:15] what do they want me to use Pine :D [16:16] no, mutt [16:16] lol [16:16] mutt, w3m, moc, mc, identicurse [16:16] fugget about gtk sucka [16:17] what do you use? [16:17] for mail? [16:17] claws-mail [16:17] with a different theme than the default [16:17] cuz the default is ugly as sin [16:18] but claws-mail has fantastic filtering and processing rule tools [16:18] Hmm [16:19] i usually use that or thunderbird [16:19] * bkerensa has to use Thunderbird.... LastPass Support, WiseStamp and other features [16:19] :D [16:19] i'm not at all a fan of evolution [16:21] nathwill: What do they call the thunderbird package for CB/Debian? [16:21] icedove [16:21] * bkerensa tried mozilla-thunderbird [16:21] I thought so [16:21] :P [16:21] yeah, icedove and iceweasel are the non-mozilla-branded packages [16:21] but it's the exact same software [16:21] LOL [16:22] nathwill: What are you using for music? [16:22] :D [16:22] deadbeef [16:22] depends on what you want [16:22] :P [16:23] i use the last.fm client most of the time [16:23] * bkerensa just installed rhythmbox [16:23] :D [16:23] which has Last.fm plus everything else [16:23] i like deadbeef for simplicity and lightweightness, but the mpd+sonata combination is also very popular in CB community [16:23] * bkerensa is kind of considering paying the monthly cost of Spotify [16:23] =/ [16:23] it's bloody retarded that their native linux client requires a paid account [16:23] yeah [16:24] their excuse is rubbish [16:24] saying they dont know how to put in ads [16:24] honestly though Premium was nice [16:25] the offline mode for my phone and laptop [16:25] :D [16:25] But now you have to have Facebook [16:25] yeaaaah [16:25] not so cool [16:25] slacker is good, and their new client has offline caching [16:25] but i don't think they have a native linux client [16:26] it's all done thru the browser [16:26] nathwill: How do I update the right-click menu? It didnt automatically add thunderbird and rhythmbox [16:26] :D [16:26] it never does, that's what's great [16:26] are you in CB? [16:26] or ubuntu? [16:27] CB [16:27] menu.xml? [16:27] settings->openbox->gui menu editor [16:27] or menu.xml [16:27] for the menu, i find it easier to use the gui (obmenu) [16:29] uhhh [16:29] derp derp [16:29] why did it not add to the menu? [16:29] * bkerensa edited the menu.xml and added a item and saved [16:29] =o [16:30] openbox --reconfigure ??? [16:30] may need to reload it [16:30] i don't have to reconfigure after using obmenu, but you might need to if you do it by hand [16:30] yep [16:31] :) [16:31] cool [16:31] just had to reload [16:31] odd :P [16:32] notably still some things that suck about LastPass [16:32] * bkerensa uses 12-13 character strong passwords [16:33] so if I ever nuke one of my boxes its a fun process of resyncing everything [16:33] :D [16:33] i bet [16:36] i just have a funky algorthim i run through in my head to generate the pass [16:37] LOL [16:37] they're pseudo-random, and... between 10-20 char depending on the service [16:37] well for most sites I use a 13 char strong pass [16:37] then for like two or three things I use a similar 12 char strong pass (with a few changed chars) [16:38] idk I imagine my pass and setup is more secure than most companies [16:38] ;) [16:38] I'm behind three firewalls [16:38] :P [16:38] yikes [16:38] one at the gateway.... one at the router and another on my hub [16:38] :D [16:39] although I think I might setup a server in our telco closet [16:39] they have a rack in their but no servers [16:39] :) [16:39] just phone stuffs [16:40] In fact they have a weird vault of a thing that houses the phone stuff it looks like a safe with a front safety glass panel.... I think IntegraTelecom handles that though [16:41] interesting [16:44] nathwill: We should grab sushi soon ;) I know a good place out towards your neck of the woods [16:45] hellz yeah [16:45] anything other than pasta, i'm down for [16:46] lol [16:46] maybe we can get Brian_H to duck out for some sushi ;) Idk if Indianians like Sushi though [16:46] :P [16:48] Hmm [16:49] Alright perfect, we're in for the t-shirts Ben, let me know next steps? [16:49] Thanks, [16:49] Eric [16:49] looks like we got t-shirts [16:49] :D [16:49] for Ocelot release [16:50] lol [16:51] Shirts are expensive [16:51] yes they are lol [16:51] I told them $23-24 a pop [16:51] and they were like so $300 or $2000 [16:51] I said I estimate around $250 [17:22] http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/from-desert-to-web-bringing-dead-sea.html [17:23] :( [17:23] * bkerensa is hating Google right now [17:24] finally [17:24] :P [17:24] their smtp is constantly down [17:30] you should host a mail server of your own! [17:31] then you can spend time hating yourself! [17:39] I am literally doing this guy's job today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGS2tKQhdhY [17:39] that is the best movie ever [17:39] agreed [17:58] nathwill: For redundancy local hosting of a mail server is unfeasible [17:58] :P [17:58] tgm4883: I sent a mail to the list asking for Feedback on the Ocelot Release Party.... I'm thinking waiting a week or two after the 13th might be good [17:59] It would help me out too because I'm still working to get stuff ready like t-shirts [17:59] and food [17:59] bkerensa, yea that might be better [17:59] BTW! [17:59] at least doing it the weekend after, not during the week [17:59] IF ANYONE IS GOOD AT THE GIMP AND WANTS TO HELP DESIGN SHIRTS LET ME KNOW [17:59] :P [17:59] Eucalyptus will be sponsoring our t-shirts [18:00] bkerensa, you might want to be a little more specific [18:00] * bkerensa is still looking for a food/snack sponsor [18:00] tgm4883: More specific? [18:00] :D [18:00] IF ANYONE IS GOOD AT THE GNU Image Manipulation Program AND WANTS TO HELP DESIGN SHIRTS LET ME KNOW [18:00] fixed [18:00] :P [18:01] cause you could get a lot of unwanted help from people good at the gimp [18:03] nathwill: How do I launch TweetDeck on CB? :) [18:35] tweetdeck? [18:35] isn't that an adobe air app? [18:36] ^bkerensa [18:36] nathwill: Yeah [18:36] =/ [18:39] so ya just need to install adobe air and then install tweetdeck [18:39] I have [18:39] ok [18:39] but how do I make it launch from menu.xml [18:39] ;) [18:39] ah [18:39] what command do you use to launch it at cli? [18:41] i don't really know much about adobe air [18:42] I have no idea [18:42] :P [18:42] i think you just put in the command for adobe-air with the application as parameter $1 [18:43] hrm [18:43] google is not helpful in this regard [18:43] yeah [18:43] --> /opt/TweetDeck/bin/TweetDeck [18:43] should be command [18:43] hrm [18:43] but tweetdeck went somewhere weird on CB [18:44] and I cannot find it [18:44] =o [18:44] whereis TweetDeck ? [18:44] nothing [18:44] LOL [18:44] which? [18:44] WAIT [18:44] oooooo [18:44] which TweetDeck? [18:44] eh? [18:44] I installed it on my laptop [18:44] not on my desktop yet [18:44] =o [18:44] ROFL [18:44] excellent [18:44] so you installed CB on multiple pc's? :D [18:44] woo hoo! [18:45] umm yeah [18:45] shh [18:45] :P [18:45] pffft. [18:45] dont want the Canonical overlords to hear about that [18:45] :D [18:46] well, you see... it's really Ubuntu w/ Openbox... you see... *cough* [19:02] https://imgur.com/ffUjp [19:02] Looks like it's gonna be cloudy with a chance of Debian [19:05] lol [19:13] http://edos.debian.net/weather/ [19:14] nathwill: icedove is weak sauce [19:14] it's... the same as thunderbird dude [19:15] nathwill: Thats a negative ghost rider :P [19:15] Its not syncing my Gapps labels [19:16] pfft [19:16] no comment [19:16] :P [19:16] why cause you run your own mailserver ? [19:16] :P [19:17] yep [19:18] :P [19:18] and what happens if Linode has an outage? [19:18] :D [19:19] you lose mail :P [19:24] never happened yet [19:24] lol [19:24] and besides... that issue exists with all service providers [19:29] I had three outages in under a year with Linode [19:29] :D [19:30] Now mind you that was outages [19:30] sometimes the entire host machine would somehow mysteriously lock up [19:30] :D [19:30] which they did not consider an outage [19:31] where were you located? [19:31] Even Linode's major fanboys dont suggest using a Linode for e-mail [19:31] UK and Fremont [19:31] hrm [19:31] Fremont has a DC wide outage [19:31] i was in Fremont [19:31] weird [19:31] and UK had issues [19:31] yeah [19:31] still am in fremont [19:31] Yeah oddly only half their host machines went down [19:31] :P [19:31] Linode doesnt explain much [19:31] they did say it was DC wide but somehow it didnt effect all their boxes [19:32] :P [19:33] nathwill: http://status.linode.com/ [19:34] Your lucky [19:34] Fremont has issues a lot [19:35] I got downtime in Nov, May and Aug just in Fremont [19:35] :D [19:35] yeah, that's weird [19:35] I guess its better then the DC getting robber or exploding [19:35] :P [19:35] ThePlanet had a DC explosion [19:35] and their was a DC in chicago that got robbed [19:36] that's really cool [19:36] http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2007/11/04/armed-robbery-at-chicago-data-center/ [19:39] cut through an exterior wall... lmao [19:41] LOL [19:43] http://schlem.deviantart.com/#/d3h7w7q [19:43] i'm going to start slapping these everywhere [19:55] slapping them everywhere? As in make stickers? [19:59] People who put price as $2 on CL for servers make me so mad [19:59] :P [20:23] hello, got down to Fry's this morning, found out my original price range wouldn't cut it for the type of PC I want to build: a gaming PC. [20:24] $800-$900 is what I should be aiming for, not $500 with $200 as a cushion. [20:28] -o [20:41] ayup, gonna be closer to Christmas when I get the money for it, possibly in January. [20:42] bkerensa, if possible, I'd like to run the parts list by ya and get your take on them. [21:22] sure send it in pm [21:24] ok [22:01] any luck on a space for the release party? [22:10] still waiting [22:10] these kinds of things take a month or so to setup [22:10] and its still convention season [22:12] PuppetLabs on the 13th was kind of a best bet consider location, space, amenities since people want a weekend I have no idea [22:12] Some UG's pay a couple hundred a month just to have a place to do meetings [22:12] like Nedspace membership === Brian_H_ is now known as Brian_H [22:25] :D [22:25] Damn my site loads fast [22:25] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0Ke4LL0hIc [22:25] My page load times embarrass sites like AOL or Engadget [22:25] :P [22:37] Brian_H: Much props you guys have a fast site [22:37] sweet :) [22:38] Brian_H: Faster than Ubuntu.com or Redhat.com [22:38] :D [22:38] 4.3 second load time [22:38] I bet. [22:39] Ubuntu.com 7 seconds and Redhat 6.7 [22:39] :D [22:39] not for long we are working on a revamp lol [22:39] LOL [22:39] You use a CMS platform? [22:39] yea we will be using joomla [22:41] has anyone heard Dave-SB's version of Toccata and Fugue? pretty sick [22:47] Brian_H: WHAT??? [22:47] =o [22:47] Serious? [22:47] yea for what we are doing its a better solution than the alternatives that were presented [22:47] Joomla is like the most insecure CMS platform their is though [22:47] :P [22:48] Harvard used Joomla until they got hacked [22:48] :P [22:49] doh [22:49] :P [22:49] I'll have to tell the admins to lock it down [22:49] yeah :) [22:49] a lot of modifications :D [22:50] atleast you didnt say "Were moving to PHPNuke" [22:50] :D [22:50] hahaha this is very true [22:51] what is PHPnuke and why is it so bad? [22:52] its a very old php based portal software :P [22:53] imho the top three most insecure CMS platforms are PHPNuke, Joomla and Typo3 [22:53] :D [22:53] oh good, firefox 7 is out, was wondering when they were going to replace 6.02 ... it was getting quite old [22:53] yeah [22:53] ? [22:53] Im still hoping FF makes major improvements in speed [22:53] :D [22:53] well yea 6.0.2 is like what a week old? I mean comon! talk about a long release cycle [22:53] so the FF 7 update finally made it to the Update servers? [22:54] oh not yet [22:54] probably in a few hours [22:54] not really looking forward to it breaking all my addons again lol [22:54] might as well check.... wonder if there's a way to check the build status. [23:16] and the award for the most secure cms platform goes tooo.... jekyll! [23:19] what about Mr. Hyde? [23:25] octopress? [23:26] well... i guess that wouldn't really work [23:26] cuz octopress is the more dapper of the two