[03:40] <TheEvilPhoenix> hey i accidentially removed the system clock from the bottom panel.  how can i restore it?
[03:44] <obgorelyi> Приветствую, здесь говорит, кто-нибудь на русском?
[03:44] <DarthFrog> !ru | obgorelyi
[03:48] <zosky> hi yall
[03:54] <zosky> my kubuntu install has started locking after 2days. kdeinit4 eats the free 2GB ram & 1gb SWAP... then everything grinds to a bloody halt. i did a release upgrade (to natty) a few days ago in hopes it would be all better ... but still. suggestions please
[04:31] <PadNetPadfoot> AYT
[04:33] <well_laid_lawn> !english | PadNetPadfoot
[04:33] <PadNetPadfoot> are you there?
[04:33] <PadNetPadfoot> anyone there?
[04:34] <well_laid_lawn> there's 234 ppl in here atm
[04:49] <mase_work> am i invisible again?
[04:49] <mase_work> i hate when that happens
[05:27] <Daskreech> TheEvilPhoenix: Did you get an answer for the clock?
[05:27] <Daskreech> mase_work: I can see you
[05:28] <mase_work> Daskreech: yeh i know.....it was in reference to people coming in saying, is anyone here
[05:28] <PadNetPadfoot> see who?
[05:28] <Daskreech> Who said that?
[05:28] <PadNetPadfoot> if you can see me you'd know
[05:28] <Daskreech> [01:28] <> Daskreech: yeh i know.....it was in reference to people coming in saying, is anyone here
[05:28] <mase_work> never mind
[05:29] <PadNetPadfoot> well i need assistance and wanted someone to talk to
[05:29] <Daskreech> ^_^
[05:29] <PadNetPadfoot> about the issues i'm having
[05:29] <Daskreech> PadNetPadfoot: that's what <> is here for
[05:29] <PadNetPadfoot> ?
[05:29] <PadNetPadfoot> what is that mean?
[05:30] <Daskreech> never mind it's a joke on mase_work not being able to be seen
[05:30] <mase_work> yup
[05:30] <Daskreech> [01:29] <PadNetPadfoot> ?
[05:30] <Daskreech> the <> goes around people's name's on my client
[05:30] <Daskreech> mase_work would be <> since he doesn't know if people can see him
[05:31] <PadNetPadfoot> well <Daskreech> do you know a good appp to write iso files to usb drives?
[05:31] <mase_work> dd :)
[05:32] <Daskreech> PadNetPadfoot: dd, unetbootin if you want it bootable Ubuntu has a USB writer
[05:33] <Daskreech> Fedora has one as well but I can't vouch for it
[05:33] <Daskreech> PadNetPadfoot: Does it need to be bootable?
[05:33] <PadNetPadfoot> usig kubuntu
[05:37] <PadNetPadfoot> ***Mode #kubuntu +knk by PadNetPadfoot
[05:39] <Daskreech> PadNetPadfoot: Does the ISO need to be bootable when it's done?
[05:39] <PadNetPadfoot> hoopefully
[05:40] <Daskreech> PadNetPadfoot: Try netbootin
[05:40] <Daskreech> If you want a GUI
[05:41] <PadNetPadfoot> not a req. but really wntd a multiboot selectble linuxx boooooot
[05:43] <Daskreech> PadNetPadfoot: Did you look at multiboot?
[05:43] <PadNetPadfoot> any ideass?/
[05:43] <Daskreech> unetbootin should be able to do that
[05:51] <PadNetPadfoot> thx
[05:56] <Daskreech> ok
[06:52] <iza> hello
[06:52] <iza> jak tam co tam
[06:52] <iza> jestem iza
[06:52] <iza> ale fajnie
[06:53] <Kolia> iza: po angelsku tutal :)
[06:53] <Kolia> *tutaj
[06:54] <iza> ja nie znam amerykanskiego
[06:54] <student___> :D:D
[06:54] <Michal_> wdbv
[06:54] <Michal_> buhahabaaba
[06:54] <student___> co cie tak cieszy :P
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[06:55] <FloodBotK1> student____: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:55] <student___> rg;klge
[06:55] <student___> rgkl;er
[06:55] <Michal_> rokefeler
[06:55] <iza> łigi łigi
[06:55] <student___> co sie skichał :P
[06:55] <Lysy_> faki
[06:55] <Michal_> wigi wigi
[06:56] <iza> łigi łigi
[06:56] <student___> tiki-tiki :D
[06:56] <student___> kto tu jest?/
[06:56] <student___> :"df
[06:56] <iza> sraka sraka
[06:56] <student_> kpor!!!!
[06:56] <iza> spierdala kra pudelko
[06:56] <student_> kpr!!
[06:57] <student___> kpr
[06:57] <student___> :P
[06:57] <well_laid_lawn> !english | idiots
[06:57] <iza> ja mam kol
[06:57] <student_> cioty
[06:57] <student_> aaaa
[06:57] <iza> fuck this we are polish
[06:57] <iza> haha
[06:58] <student_> hfhgj
[06:58] <student___> exactly :D
[06:58] <Michal_>                                                      inglisz is for nubs
[06:58] <student___> nlee
[06:58] <Lysy_> we are poor asian kids , sorry we have to write this because we will get a bowl of rice for this . Sorry it helps us to survive.
[06:59] <student_> nyga nyga nyga
[06:59] <iza> spam
[06:59] <Groszu> ema
[06:59] <iza> ey wchodzimy na freewebcam.com
[06:59] <iza> ????????????????????????????
[06:59] <student___> gaga
[06:59] <student___> :D
[06:59] <student___> haha:D
[06:59] <Groszu> sialalalaal
[07:00] <Michal_> łigi łigi
[07:00] <student_> cipki !!!
[07:00] <iza> ey bez brzydkich słów
[07:00] <Groszu> sztukaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:01] <iza> gdzie
[07:01] <Groszu> a w dupie
[07:01] <Groszu> ;d
[07:01] <iza> chciałbys żebym cie posmyrał nie
[07:01] <Lysy_> sztuka ? co ty kurwo xD
[07:01] <well_laid_lawn> thanks
[07:01] <Kolia> thanks
[07:02] <FloodBotK1> Lysy_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:03] <FloodBotK1> student_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:03] <Daskreech> :)
[11:19] <dieter_> Hello: could somebody tell me, where to find detailed informations about the meaning of the preinstalled system users and groups in kubuntu/ubuntu?
[11:25] <well_laid_lawn> the floodbots should kick themselves off
[13:04] <transformers> hi
[13:04] <transformers> no sound help
[13:05] <transformers> 3G modem internet with mobile sim card not worked help(only for mac and windows)
[13:06] <transformers> zte mf 192+ 3G internet not work
[13:10] <OerHeks> transformers, sorry i don't know anything about usb-3G
[13:10] <Guest1603> hi, can someone help me out with an audio problem?
[13:10] <Guest1603> i'm using kubuntu 11.04, and i can't get the surround to work
[13:11] <Guest1603> the front speakers are ok, the center and subwoofer are ok, but i don't hear any sound from the rear speakers
[13:12] <transformers> OerHeks hello my old friend what is ypor real Name? i`m George
[13:12] <Guest1603> i already checked the 3.5 jacks, and everything is set up correctly
[13:13] <transformers> how in NL country people gets interner for netbook on the street? 3G?
[13:13] <transformers> internet
[13:13] <Pici> !ot
[13:14] <transformers> ubuttu help with 3G usb modem please
[13:14] <transformers> in 11.04 kubuntu
[13:17] <transformers> how i can use 3g modem in kubuntu 11.04 (NOT understood)
[13:18] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:18] <transformers> hi
[13:51] <aajgar> Hi. anyone know how to create a bootable USB with uefi support ? I am using unetbootin but my laptop is not booting from the USB. I have a Lenovo T420 with windows 7 .
[14:34] <vivp> How to enable wobbly windows in Kubuntu ? I tried to find it but wasn't able to
[14:37] <aajgar> under system setting, look for desktop effects and then select all effects , look fro wobbly window and check it ,
[14:38] <OerHeks> vivp did you install ccsm ?
[14:38] <vivp> OerHeks : No not in Kubuntu . I thought it was only for Kubuntu
[14:38] <OerHeks> = desktop effects manager
[14:39] <vivp> OerHeks : *only for UBUNTU
[14:39] <vivp> OerHeks : Compiz compig settings manager
[14:39] <OerHeks> you should, also available in Kubuntu
[14:40] <vivp> aajgar : Thank you. When two windows are open simultaneously  and one windows over the other . When i click on the window on the back the effect is like its slides and comes over this . I don't know the name of this effect. does anyone know ?
[14:41] <vivp> aajgar : Got wobbly windows. Now searching for this one :)
[14:44] <Peace->  mmcblk0: error sending status command
[14:44] <Peace-> -.-
[14:45] <Peace-> sd card then is unmounted
[14:45] <Peace-> so if i was copying file :) well i get an error -.-
[15:16] <transformers> 3G usb modem how install in kubuntu 11 ?
[15:21] <Peace-> transformers: i have a nokia ... i put it on usb like nokia suite
[15:21] <Peace-> and that's all
[15:21] <bigjools> is this the right place to talk about Kubuntu in oneiric problems (I just upgraded from natty)
[15:22] <Peace-> bigjools: mm no... maybe on the offtopic channel #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu+1
[15:22] <bigjools> well, it's a kmail2 issue to be precise
[15:23] <bigjools> I'll try there, thanks
[15:35] <caldera> hi!
[15:36] <caldera> Where I can find the driver for this audio device: Audio device: Intel Corporation Unknown device 3b56 (rev 05)?
[15:46] <caldera> Where I can find the driver for this audio device: Audio device: Intel Corporation Unknown device 3b56 (rev 05)?
[15:46] <caldera> Thanks!
[15:49] <BluesKaj> !hda | caldera
[15:50] <BluesKaj> !intelhda | caldera
[15:50] <caldera> Thanks!
[15:50] <BluesKaj> !via
[16:18] <hazamonzo> Hey folks. Everytime i update my kubuntu it looks like the flashplugin-nonfree stops working with firefox. Tried to remove it and reinstall with no success. What might be the issue?
[16:19] <Peace-> hazamonzo: mmm
[16:19] <Peace-> wait a moment
[16:19] <hazamonzo> Peace-: Indeed
[16:19] <OerHeks> hazamonzo,  try the flash-aid plugin from mozilla
[16:20] <hazamonzo> OerHeks: Worth a shot
[16:21] <OerHeks> https://addons.mozilla.org/nl/firefox/addon/flash-aid/
[16:21] <Peace-> hazamonzo: i will remove flash
[16:21] <Peace-> theni will install flash locally
[16:22] <hazamonzo> OerHeks: Installed. Said i need to run the setup in FF extensions. I see preferences, disable and remove un the extention in the extensions tab
[16:22] <hazamonzo> *in
[16:23] <hazamonzo> OerHeks: Nevermind. Found the wizard
[16:23] <Peace-> hazamonzo: download the flash plugin for linux , extract it on $HOME/.mozilla/plugins
[16:23] <Peace-> end
[16:23] <Peace-> of course before you have to remove the old one
[16:24] <hazamonzo> Peace-: Also worth a shot if Flash Aid fails. Appreciate it :)
[16:24] <Peace-> for me it has never worked but i have seen a lots of people that said it worked for them
[16:25] <OerHeks> i wonder, if this occures to FF + chromium users only ..
[16:27] <hazamonzo> oooo look at that. Almost too easy! Great find OerHeks. Much appreciated. Works like a charm
[16:27] <hazamonzo> Peace-: Thanks for the help too also appreciated
[16:27] <OerHeks> have fun :-)
[16:27] <hazamonzo> OerHeks: Thanks!
[16:29] <flying_sheep> hi
[16:30] <flying_sheep> i have a problem
[16:30] <flying_sheep> i’m upgrading KDE, but it hangs at 51% while trying to install liboktetakastencontrollers4
[16:31] <TheEvilPhoenix> i accidentially removed the system clock from the bottom panel, how can I get it back?
[16:32] <avihay> TheEvilPhoenix: do you still have that ying and yang symbol?
[16:32] <avihay> cashaw?
[16:32] <TheEvilPhoenix> yeah
[16:33] <avihay> click it, then click add wiget
[16:33] <avihay> type clock in the search box
[16:33] <avihay> I prefer the digital
[16:33] <TheEvilPhoenix> ah thanks
[16:33] <TheEvilPhoenix> i do too :P
[16:36] <flying_sheep> what can i do to resume/abort the process? i don’t want to risk to bork my kubuntu installation. FYI: the process tree shows two packagekitd processes, one being a child process of the other, while this child packagekitd has one dpkg process as child which is in zombie state
[16:36] <flying_sheep> help
[16:38] <transformers_> help install and for work in kubuntu with 3G modem zte mf 192
[16:39] <transformers_> where is sound device in kubuntu? sound only for began is. music sound not where is it
[16:40] <phoenix_firebrd> transformers_: what is the problem?
[16:40] <Peace-> flying_sheep: mmm this is a bad situation...
[16:41] <flying_sheep> Peace-: I know. thus i’m posting :S
[16:41] <Peace-> flying_sheep: you could break the system .... so you have to evaluate what you wanna do ... i will press CTRL C  or close the kpackagekit
[16:41] <phoenix_firebrd> What is NSS ?
[16:41] <Peace-> flying_sheep: then i will try to do sudo apt-get update
[16:41] <Peace-> flying_sheep: then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:42] <Peace-> you should get an error message
[16:42] <Peace-> run dpkg -a bla bla
[16:42] <Peace-> so you have to do that ...
[16:42] <flying_sheep> hmm. what exactly is a zombie process? is there some way to kill it for good ;)
[16:43] <flying_sheep> ?
[16:43] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: task manager entry?
[16:43] <Peace-> flying_sheep: zombie is a process that doesn't run as it should
[16:43] <flying_sheep> yes, system monitor
[16:44] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: is the taskmanger entry bothering you?
[16:44] <fatum_> hello. trying to reinstall kubuntu after adding and not very successfully uninstalling gnome to it. But during the installation, my pc shuts down, every time. any possible reasons?
[16:45] <flying_sheep> i think that’s where it hangs… packagekitd waits for dpkg, which is a zombie and never finishes
[16:45] <flying_sheep> my guess
[16:45] <transformers_> phoenix_firebirdmu 3 g modem with sim card of mobile(drivers only for win and mac) root is a password of provider
[16:45] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: try to kill it
[16:45] <Peace-> fatum_: mmm i guess that reinstalling the system should be faster... if you have home separeted
[16:45] <Peace-> fatum_: btw you should reinstall every kde package...
[16:45] <flying_sheep> policykit crashed ^^
[16:46] <phoenix_firebrd> transformers_: is your modem detected?
[16:46] <flying_sheep> when trying to ask for my password to kill the root process
[16:46] <transformers__> modem detected some times
[16:46] <OerHeks> transformers, is your 3G thing in this list ? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G
[16:46] <fatum_> Peace-, i am reinstalling the whole kubuntu, now. but I can't, it shuts down during the installation of kubuntu.. i don't understand what are you trying to say
[16:46] <transformers__> but this model zte mf 192 only for windows
[16:47] <transformers__> yes 3G
[16:47] <phoenix_firebrd> transformers_: so you want to know how to configure your username, passowrd etc?
[16:47] <transformers__> nothing
[16:47] <transformers__> i learn install 3g in linux
[16:47] <phoenix_firebrd> transformers_: open command prompt and type "sudo lsusb" and see if the modem is detected
[16:48] <transformers__> ok plese wait a try now
[16:48] <Peace-> fatum_: download the alternate cd
[16:48] <phoenix_firebrd> transformers_: the command prompt is called "konsole"
[16:48] <OerHeks> for ZTE mf 190 it says : Try wvdial. In Maverick and Natty, after switching, follow the New Connection wizard and you'll be ok.
[16:48] <OerHeks> maybe for you too ?
[16:48] <transformers__> i got it about konsole
[16:49] <phoenix_firebrd> OerHeks: are you talking to transformers_?
[16:49] <phoenix_firebrd> transformers_: is your modem listed?
[16:49] <transformers__> yeah oerheks talk
[16:50] <fatum_> Peace-, all right. thank you
[16:50] <transformers__> konsdole write bus
[16:50] <transformers__> [sudo] password for transformers:
[16:50] <transformers__> Bus 007 Device 002: ID 04d9:1603 Holtek Semiconductor, Inc.
[16:50] <transformers__> Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[16:50] <transformers__> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[16:50] <transformers__> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 093a:2510 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Optical Mouse
[16:50] <FloodBotK1> transformers__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:50] <transformers__> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[16:50] <Peace-> fatum_: i guess there is a problem with the kernl
[16:50] <phoenix_firebrd> transformers_: stop
[16:50] <phoenix_firebrd> transformers_: use paste.kde.org to paste the output
[16:51] <phoenix_firebrd> transformers_: is you modem holtek?
[16:52] <fatum_> Peace-, yeah, but I don't see where it can be. I downloaded it from official kubuntu page and burned it. verified burned cd and tried to install. But somehow, it doesn't work. Can it be, that the system that was on that disk before is causing this problem or does it format the partition right before the installation?
[16:53] <phoenix_firebrd> is transformers_blocked?
[16:53] <Peace-> fatum_: nope i guess it's the kernel of the cd
[16:54] <Peace-> fatum_: linux has kernels
[16:54] <Peace-> kernels recognize your hardware ...
[16:54] <phoenix_firebrd> What is this NSS  related to chrome
[16:54] <Peace-> alternate cd has different stuff that can handle problematic pc
[16:54] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-:  are you talking about 11.10 beta 2?
[16:55] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: no
[16:55] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: ok
[16:57] <phoenix_firebrd> transformers_: are you there?
[16:58] <flying_sheep>  Peace: can’t kill it.
[16:59] <hazamonzo> Cheers guys!
[16:59] <Peace-> flying_sheep: sudo pkill name
[16:59] <flying_sheep> ps aux | grep dpkg → root     19532  0.5  0.0      0     0 ?        Zs   17:13   0:37 [dpkg] <defunct>
[17:00] <flying_sheep> sudo kill -9 19532
[17:00] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: is there any process named apport?
[17:00] <Peace-> flying_sheep: killall ?
[17:00] <flying_sheep> yes, apport is there
[17:01] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: kill it
[17:01] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: then try killing your app
[17:01] <flying_sheep> oh, sry, there wasn’t. it found the grep process :(
[17:02] <flying_sheep> no apport, and killall doesn”t work, either
[17:02] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: why dont you simply restart?
[17:02] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: no
[17:02] <Peace-> no
[17:02] <Peace-> no
[17:02] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: why?
[17:02] <FloodBotK1> Peace-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:03] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-:  he he he
[17:03] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: he is installin and he has probably a broken system
[17:03] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: why cant he fix?
[17:03] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: 11.04 or 11.10?
[17:05] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: do you have a live cd?
[17:06] <flying_sheep> i use 11.04
[17:07] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: your upgrade crashed?
[17:07] <flying_sheep> how should a live-cd help  me, as i can’t even reboot without danger
[17:07] <flying_sheep> yes. kde upgrade from 4.6 to 4.7
[17:07] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: its for getting here
[17:08] <flying_sheep> ah, ok
[17:08] <flying_sheep> the flood bot is a bit oversensitive :)
[17:08] <phoenix_firebrd> ya
[17:09] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: linux system doesn't need to be rebooted like window
[17:09] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: i know
[17:09] <Peace-> user must learn how to kill the process and repair the system
[17:09] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-:  but it is the simplest thing for him
[17:10] <Peace-> i don't thik so
[17:10] <Peace-> a system without X server is a mess for a noob
[17:11] <flying_sheep> m(
[17:11] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: are you familiar with bash?
[17:12] <flying_sheep> quite so
[17:12] <Peace-> flying_sheep: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:12] <Peace-> flying_sheep: what does it say
[17:13] <flying_sheep> nothing, most probably, because, as i said multiple times, the system got stuck while performing an upgrade
[17:13] <Peace-> flying_sheep: it doesn't show you an error?
[17:14] <Peace-> flying_sheep: if so... you try this : sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-full
[17:14] <flying_sheep> nope. kpackagekitsmarticon is being dumb and doesn’t recognize something being foul
[17:15] <Peace-> or maybe
[17:15] <Peace-> flying_sheep: if so... you try this : sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-standard
[17:16] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: is there a apt zombie process?
[17:16] <flying_sheep> no, an dpkg zombie process
[17:16] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: you don't need to check
[17:17] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: if you do tha command you will get eventually an error
[17:17] <flying_sheep> i know, i’m not dumb
[17:18] <Peace-> flying_sheep: well then have you tried?
[17:18] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-:  i dont get you
[17:19] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: it's 4 year that i support linux
[17:19] <Peace-> here...
[17:19] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: ??
[17:20] <Peace-> so i know what to do in the most of cases
[17:20] <Peace-> you have a broken dpkg process?
[17:20] <Peace-> kill it and redoo the apt-get stuff
[17:20] <Peace-> that's all
[17:21] <flying_sheep> ok, Peace, i tried it for you. of couse it didn’t work, and of course it didn’t work because the dpkg zombie still locks /var/cache/whatever
[17:21] <Peace-> flying_sheep: ok perfect
[17:21] <flying_sheep> but i don’t get it killed
[17:21] <Peace-> flying_sheep: now you have to remove the lok
[17:21] <Peace-> flying_sheep: lock
[17:21] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: are you angry?
[17:21] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: nope
[17:21] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: good
[17:21] <Peace-> flying_sheep: please paste the error
[17:22] <flying_sheep> it’s german: localized system
[17:22] <Peace-> there is no problem
[17:22] <Peace-> paste it
[17:22] <Peace-> i guess i am smater enougt
[17:22] <flying_sheep> but i still don’t get how anything should work while the dpkg zombie still blocks the system.
[17:22] <Peace-> enough
[17:22] <flying_sheep> *smarter ;)
[17:22] <Peace-> omg...
[17:23] <flying_sheep> that was kinda funny
[17:23] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: his peace is wearing out , watch out
[17:23] <Peace-> *smart
[17:23] <flying_sheep> :D
[17:23] <Peace-> well the problem is not mine :)
[17:23] <flying_sheep> i believe you, Peace
[17:24] <phoenix_firebrd> me too
[17:24] <Peace-> you wanna do what i say well , you don't ? your problem
[17:24] <flying_sheep> i acknowledge that you are smart
[17:24] <phoenix_firebrd> me too
[17:24] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: we need people like you buddy
[17:25] <tiago> when doing dd to copy my system to an external HD, does it also copy the empty space??
[17:25] <flying_sheep> but i don’t completely trust the advice to remove the lock while the rogue dpkg process stell shambles around like the zombie that it is
[17:25] <Peace-> flying_sheep: you have 2 choices
[17:26] <Peace-> or reboot ... or try to remove a lock folder
[17:26] <Peace-> choose
[17:26] <flying_sheep> it’s a crappy choice :D
[17:26] <flying_sheep> but thanks
[17:26] <flying_sheep> i think i’ll do the following:
[17:27] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: thats what neo said in matrix
[17:27] <flying_sheep> XD
[17:27] <Peace-> we have cip and chop
[17:28] <Peace-> *ciop
[17:28] <flying_sheep> but at least he could decide between blissful ignorance and awful truth
[17:29] <flying_sheep> i have to decide to reboot into a potentially defunct system or to ignore processes running amok and hoping that everything sorts out
[17:30] <Peace-> flying_sheep: http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/zombies.html
[17:31] <flying_sheep> i’ll do the fullowing: rescue all my data, delete my system, and try one of peaces choices. if everything goes to waste, i’ll say “fuck it” and install the kubuntu oneiric beta 2
[17:32] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: i am on 11.10 beta 2
[17:32] <flying_sheep> thanks for the useful link
[17:32]  * Peace- has remove the lock a lots of time in bad situation without problems
[17:32] <Peace-> removed
[17:32] <Peace-> times
[17:32] <Peace-> xD
[17:32] <Peace-> *situations
[17:32] <Peace-> -.-
[17:32] <systemclient> nm does not give me any feedback on VPN, it just does not connect. How can I diagnose that?
[17:32] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: you can remove the lock
[17:33] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: the process is dead and it wont do any harm
[17:33] <Peace-> ....
[17:33] <flying_sheep> ok, should i kill the parent then?
[17:33] <Peace-> at least someone has read
[17:33] <flying_sheep> huh? who didn’t?
[17:33]  * Peace- is teaching linux
[17:33] <Peace-> xD
[17:33] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: If this was my problem , i would have done what peace told
[17:36] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-:  is there any skull like mouse pointer in kde or in  ubuntu linux?
[17:36] <flying_sheep> yes
[17:36] <flying_sheep> you can test it via xkill
[17:36] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep:  are you talking to me?
[17:36] <flying_sheep> yes
[17:36] <flying_sheep> sry
[17:37] <flying_sheep> xkill uses this cursor
[17:37] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: oh, i thought my system was hacked
[17:37] <flying_sheep> press esc to stop it if you don’t want to kill a program
[17:38] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: To active xkill you can do
[17:38] <Peace-> CTL ALT ESC
[17:38] <Peace-> ctrl
[17:38] <flying_sheep> cool, didn’t know that
[17:38] <flying_sheep> i always used krunner
[17:38] <Peace-> too much work
[17:38] <Peace-> i am lazy
[17:40] <flying_sheep> ok, lock removed, now performing upgrade
[17:41] <flying_sheep> sorry for not trusting you at first, but i’m always sceptical if i don’t understand something (such as dpkg/apt)
[17:41] <Peace-> flying_sheep: i am nowardev .. i did some program for kubuntu
[17:42] <Peace-> i mean for kde
[17:42] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: what is it?
[17:42] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: vlc append
[17:43] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: search on kde apps
[17:43] <Peace-> plasma panels script
[17:43] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: ok
[17:44] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/gnome-defaltt-panel-kde.gif
[17:45] <flying_sheep> Peace-: the link about zombies convinced me. i didn’t know that these don’t block their parent processes, and thus figured that the zombie would be able to cause harm
[17:45] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: good work buddy, is it written using qml?
[17:46] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: what?
[17:46] <Peace-> i have used javascript for the panel script
[17:46] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: one min
[17:48] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: good, have you tried qml?
[17:48] <Peace-> nope
[17:48] <Peace-> i am not good enough and i have few time
[17:48] <flying_sheep> Peace-: the upgrade after removal of the lock didn’t even fail.
[17:49] <Peace-> flying_sheep: so it's upgraded ?
[17:49] <flying_sheep> i think so. gonna reboot
[17:49] <Peace-> ok
[17:50] <flying_sheep> took suspiciosly short time, though
[17:50] <flying_sheep> thanks you both
[17:50] <flying_sheep> brb
[17:50] <flying_sheep> (i hope :P)
[17:50] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep:  yw
[17:51] <Peace-> ok here in italy it's late
[17:51] <Peace-> i have to go to run
[17:52] <Peace-> bye
[18:00] <flying_sheep> re
[18:01] <flying_sheep> didn’t seem to upgrade…
[18:01] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: wb
[18:03] <flying_sheep> phoenix_firebrd: doesn’t recognise the update anymore
[18:04] <flying_sheep> i.e. sudo apt-get update; sudao apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade does nothing
[18:04] <flying_sheep> and dolphin and kate still say i’m running kde 4.6.5
[18:04] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: so what is the present kde version?
[18:06] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep:  one min
[18:07] <phoenix_firebrd> have you tried dpkg-reconfigure -a?
[18:08] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: have you tried dpkg-reconfigure -a?
[18:08] <flying_sheep> no, i’m trying now
[18:09] <flying_sheep> it’s asking me all kind of irrelevant stuff -.-
[18:09] <flying_sheep> *kinds
[18:10] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: do it
[18:10] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: if you are in doubt simply press enter
[18:12] <flying_sheep> i hope it doesn’t do any harm if i tell him to install grub an both HDs…
[18:12] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: is it asking so?
[18:12] <flying_sheep> yes
[18:12] <flying_sheep> it asks on which devices to install it
[18:13] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: sudo fdisk -l should tell you the boot disk
[18:13] <flying_sheep> too late, already installed it on both (/me being an idiot)
[18:13] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: it ok
[18:14] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: do you have a windows os?
[18:14] <flying_sheep> you mean i fucked it?
[18:14] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: do you have?
[18:14] <flying_sheep> yes
[18:15] <flying_sheep> i’m expecting you to answer: “now you don’t have it anymore”
[18:15] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep:  is the config work finished?
[18:15] <flying_sheep> yes
[18:15] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: can you check the kde version now?
[18:15] <flying_sheep> it said it found windows 7 so i guess the windows thing is ok
[18:15] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: may be
[18:16] <flying_sheep> kate still says 4.6.5
[18:16] <flying_sheep> is there a better place to look?
[18:16] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: one min
[18:18] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: is kde 4.7 available in normal channel in 11.04?
[18:18] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: or are using ppa?
[18:19] <flying_sheep> ppa, most likely. i’ll look if they got deactivated
[18:20] <afief> Anybody noticed that in 11.10 without compositing notifications have a black border?
[18:20] <phoenix_firebrd> afief: its cool
[18:21] <flying_sheep> kubuntu-ppa/backports was deactivated,
[18:21] <phoenix_firebrd> afief: are you on kubuntu-low-fat-settings?
[18:21] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep:  he he
[18:21] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: so you know your way
[18:22] <flying_sheep> umm, how did that happen? all other ppas were still activated oO
[18:22] <afief> phoenix_firebrd: not that I'm aware of. I upgraded this morning and turned compositing off because my graphic card ran hot
[18:22] <flying_sheep> thanks :D
[18:22] <flying_sheep> btw: how can you quickly answer to someone in quassel? double click enters chat
[18:23] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: do you know about the tab completing of nicknames?
[18:24] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep:  press p and  then press tab
[18:26] <phoenix_firebrd> afief: kubuntu-low-fat-settings made my system considerably fast
[18:26] <afief> phoenix_firebrd: could you tell me how to enable it?
[18:27] <phoenix_firebrd> afief: just install it.
[18:27] <phoenix_firebrd> afief: its just settings
[18:28] <phoenix_firebrd> afief: search this in muon "kubuntu-low-fat-settings" or use apt-get to install "kubuntu-low-fat-settings"
[18:28] <flying_sheep> phoenix_firebrd: didn’t know. cool. “pho<tab>”
[18:28] <flying_sheep> phoenix_firebrd: p<tab> works already :D
[18:28] <afief> phoenix_firebrd: cool, will try it as soon as apt-get finishes it's current operation
[18:29] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: cool
[18:29] <phoenix_firebrd> afief: ok
[18:29] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: so upgarde in progress?
[18:30] <flying_sheep> phoenix_firebrd: yes. thanks again. didn’t know what could have deactivated the ppa…
[18:30] <flying_sheep> now the dist-upgrade
[18:32] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: ok
[18:34] <phoenix_firebrd> apachelogger:  busy?
[18:40] <phoenix_firebrd> apachelogger: is ubuntuone-kde complete and stable?
[18:43] <flying_sheep> phoenix_firebrd: if we are talking about the same program, it doesn’t even work
[18:44] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: you mean ubuntuone-kde?
[18:44] <flying_sheep> yep
[18:45] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: i wont get a alert if you dont use my nickname
[18:47] <flying_sheep> phoenix_firebrd: it was developed some time ago for gsoc (i guess), immediately afterwards, ubuntu one was changed so radically that ubuntuone-kde totally broke and fixing would have required an almost total rewrite
[18:47] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: oh
[18:47] <OerHeks> ubuntu one is not working here, we are forgotten
[18:47] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: so we are left with the gtk  one
[18:48] <flying_sheep> phoenix_firebrd: unless someone made the (apparently big) effort recently, no, it doesn’t work
[18:48] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: harald was working on it, i guess he will update it
[18:49] <flying_sheep> phoenix_firebrd: apachelogger?
[18:49] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: ya
[18:49] <flying_sheep> that was the guy that abandoned it some time ago. if you have recent news that he picked it up again, please tell me!
[18:51] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: i haven't heard any news about it
[18:53] <flying_sheep> phoenix_firebrd: then we’re out of luck. https://launchpad.net/~kubuntuone is tumbleweed
[18:54] <flying_sheep> phoenix_firebrd: my upgrade is finished! yay! KDE 4.7!
[18:54] <phoenix_firebrd> flying_sheep: cool, enjoy
[18:56] <flying_sheep> phoenix_firebrd: but before that, i’m going to a party. cu, and thanks again
[19:06] <phoenix_firebrd> transformers__: !russian
[19:06] <phoenix_firebrd> !russian
[19:07] <Unit193> Syntax is !test | phoenix_firebrd
[19:07] <phoenix_firebrd> Unit193: thank you
[19:08] <phoenix_firebrd> !russian | transformers__
[19:48] <mr-rich> How do I tell kubuntu NOT to automount audio CDs?
[19:49] <phoenix_firebrd> mr-rich: see the settings in settings -> removable drives
[19:50] <mr-rich> phoenix_firebrd: auto mounting is off ...
[19:51] <mr-rich> I need to mount an audio CD in a vbox ...
[19:51] <mr-rich> and kubuntu keeps grabbing it first ...
[19:51] <TheEvilPhoenix> mr-rich: you need the CD mounted in the host system for it to be useable in VBos
[19:51] <TheEvilPhoenix> VBox*
[19:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> mr-rich:   you need to tell teh CD device on the vbox'd item to use the CD drive on the host system
[19:52] <mr-rich> TheEvilPhoenix: I did that ... kubuntu still keeps grabbing it ...
[19:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> its supposed to
[19:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> if  the host system doesnt detect it
[19:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> the virtual one wont
[19:52] <OerHeks> in vbox, go to mediamanager and delete the iso
[19:54] <phoenix_firebrd> OerHeks: does it need any guestos addons?
[19:55] <mr-rich> phoenix_firebrd: Guest additions are installed ...
[19:55] <mr-rich> Under devices, I select the host CD Drive ...
[19:56] <mr-rich> I put in an audio CD and iTunes is supposed to launch ... or is it ... ? lemme check that ...
[20:00] <mr-rich> nope ... audio CD is not being recognized in vbox ...
[20:00] <phoenix_firebrd> mr-rich:  i have to leave now, please ask someone for help, sorry
[20:39] <cesare1> ciao a tutti
[20:39] <BarkingFish> ciao cesare1 :)
[20:39] <transformers> Good night and thank India for help
[20:39] <BarkingFish> !it | cesare1
[20:40] <cesare1> join#ubuntu-it
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[20:41] <transformers> official russian site kubuntu please enjoy http://www.kubuntu-11-10.narod.ru
[20:42] <transformers> Turn around i`m here song for Kubuntu
[22:53] <bkovacs> Anyone running kubuntu 11.10 beta 2
[23:48] <midnight> hola
[23:49] <midnight> hello spanish
[23:49] <midnight> es
[23:49] <midnight> !es