[08:43] <slashtom> morning airurando
[08:45] <airurando> hey slashtom
[08:50] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:50] <slashtom> good morning
[08:54] <airurando> hey czajkowski
[08:54] <czajkowski> hows the wee kids
[08:56] <airurando> good.  at school.
[08:57] <airurando> forgot to ask you... How id the new job going?
[08:59] <czajkowski> good
[08:59] <czajkowski> very busy
[09:01] <airurando> that's great
[09:04] <czajkowski> meetings
[09:04] <czajkowski> lots of them
[09:04] <czajkowski> into onenow
[09:04] <czajkowski> bye
[09:17] <BenChapman> Morning folks
[09:28] <Tribaal> Hi
[09:29] <BenChapman> Tribaal: Hey :)
[09:36] <Tribaal> my flatmate email wasn't very successful :) I'll try normal channels instead :)
[09:37] <Tribaal> is it uncommon / weird to share flats in Ireland? Or is it just bad luck?
[09:38] <slashtom> common enough, http://daft.ie/
[09:41] <ebel> quite common.
[09:45] <Tribaal> alright
[09:45] <Tribaal> thanks :)
[10:15] <dumb1224> my virtual terminal is behaving strangly...
[10:15] <dumb1224> it doesn't wrap the line that is longer than the width of the window
[10:16] <dstaar1> did you try to resize your terminal window?
[10:16] <dumb1224> it then displays random charactors,usually some command you type previously. any solution?
[10:17] <dumb1224> yea, after maximise the window its fine
[10:17] <dstaar1> that sounds really strange
[10:17] <dumb1224> but only within the width of the window.
[10:18] <dumb1224> i ssh onto another machine and this behaviour is gone,,so must have something to do with the terminal
[10:18] <dstaar1> it seems so.
[10:19] <dumb1224> I have also installed konsole and it's the same behaviour
[10:19] <dumb1224> although I didn't install the whole KDE
[10:20] <dstaar1> sounds weird
[10:21] <dstaar1> but i have absolutely no idea
[10:22] <dumb1224> no problem thanks all the same...:D
[10:23] <BenChapman> Slashtom Tribaal: It's easy enough *once* you find the right place with the right people :P
[10:23] <BenChapman> Short term lets are a bitch to find though :(
[10:24] <dumb1224> such a beaUtiFull day!! ^_____^
[10:24] <dumb1224> indian summer?
[10:24] <dstaar1> also in germany a nice and sunny day
[10:24] <BenChapman> :D
[10:25] <dumb1224> dstaar1: you are in germany?
[10:25] <BenChapman> Shame I'm stuck in an office, but at least there's a huge window beside me
[10:25] <dstaar1> yep i'm in germany
[10:26] <dstaar1> i'll live in dublin for half a year from 2012 to 2013 that's why i am here
[10:27] <dumb1224> dstaar1: nice!
[10:27] <BenChapman> dstaar1: erasmus year or something like that?
[10:28] <dstaar1> that was my plan but my university has no exchange contract with dublin
[10:29] <BenChapman> Ah, that sucks. :(
[10:29] <BenChapman> So what are you doing instead?
[10:29] <dstaar1> yeah a lot. my plan now is to work in dublin
[10:29] <BenChapman> oh cool. Found a job yet ?
[10:30] <BenChapman> actually, may be a bit early :P
[10:30] <dstaar1> no it's too early.
[10:30] <BenChapman> Yeah, so what is it that you do?
[10:30] <dstaar1> i wanna start my search in fall next year
[10:31] <dstaar1> right now i study computer science in a master program
[10:32]  * slashtom gets told to go out on the roof and use up megabytes... lovely day for it :P
[10:32]  * BenChapman wishes there was a roof...
[10:32] <BenChapman> there is technically a roof but it's locked
[10:33] <slashtom> well, it's a large 4th floor balcony pointing out towards the equater
[10:33] <dstaar1> BenChapman maybe you know some good addresses for getting a job.
[10:34] <BenChapman> dstaar1: I'm afraid I'm not sure what specifically you're looking for, is it engineering type jobs or more software based?
[10:34] <BenChapman> Or just anything you can get?
[10:34] <slashtom> dstaar1: try monster.ie
[10:34] <dumb1224> slashtom: you mean facing south?
[10:34] <BenChapman> dstaar1: http://technicaljobs.ie/ might be a good place to start also
[10:35] <dstaar1> i prefer software based, preferable as programmer
[10:35] <slashtom> yes, that's the direction of the eqautor
[10:35] <BenChapman> dstaar1: and what languages do you use?
[10:35] <dumb1224> our roof is full of solar panels and research equips
[10:36] <slashtom> the satellite is above the indian ocean, and i need to test today :P
[10:36] <BenChapman> slashtom: sounds aweosme :P
[10:37] <slashtom> $5/MB though
[10:37] <BenChapman> that's how much you get charged?
[10:37] <slashtom> aye
[10:37] <BenChapman> that's not much more than mobile internet cost in Ireland a few years ago :P
[10:38] <slashtom> yes, and call rates of around $1/min
[10:38] <slashtom> although if you want 256Kb of guarenteed bandwidth that will cost you about $30/min
[10:40] <dstaar1> it's like a talk from 1992
[10:40] <BenChapman> lol
[10:40] <BenChapman> I wasn't even born then
[10:41] <dstaar1> oh, dear my young fellow :D
[10:42] <BenChapman> ;) 1993... a year later, 24 days before a japanese man started work on Ruby
[10:42] <dumb1224> slashtom: what satellite? commercial or research one?
[10:42] <dstaar1> god bless Matz :D
[10:42] <dumb1224> slashtom: i see
[10:42] <slashtom> commercial, inmarsat
[10:43] <ebel> dstaar1: try mailing lists & look at the archives. e.g. ILUG, python ireland, ruby ireland, etc.
[10:43] <dstaar1> BenChapman: You are a ruby lover?
[10:43] <BenChapman> Gosh no, not at all. I'm a PHP dev
[10:43] <ebel> (for jobs that is. and apply for jobs from a long time ago, I've replied to job adverts that were 12 months old, etc.)
[10:43] <dstaar1> hi ebel.
[10:43] <dstaar1> i already subscribed at the ILUG mailing list
[10:44] <BenChapman> Speaking of which. this OpenERP thread has been going for ages
[10:45] <dumb1224> dstaar1: which part of germany are you from?I've been to the baden wurttemberg state last summer
[10:45] <dstaar1> i live in the suburban area of berlin
[10:45] <dumb1224> dstaar1: black forest,,,nice place
[10:45] <dstaar1> in the south east
[10:45] <dumb1224> oh cool
[10:46] <dstaar1> it is a nice region.
[10:46] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:46] <dstaar1> but far away from baden würtemberg :D
[10:46] <BenChapman> hey czajkowski
[10:46] <czajkowski> BenChapman: howdy
[10:46] <czajkowski> hows things
[10:46] <dumb1224> yea...technically I went to freiburg,,,in the black forest area
[10:47] <dstaar1> ebel: You mean it's a good strategy to apply for old job offerings?
[10:47] <dstaar1> it's nice for vacation but i don't wanna work there ^^
[10:47] <ebel> dstaar1: yes, apply for old job offerings. A lot of the time the company might not have found a person, or they might be still hiring.
[10:48] <BenChapman> I've never actually applied for a job through an advert... I've always gone to companies I wanted to work for (not that I have much experience of it)
[10:48] <dstaar1> nice, thank you. That's smart.
[10:49] <ebel> BenChapman: that works too. :)
[10:49] <dstaar1> is there something like an overview for startups in dublin?
[10:49] <BenChapman> dstaar1: as in like a list of startups?
[10:50] <dstaar1> something like that, yes.
[10:50] <dstaar1> i'm just collecting strategies et cetera.
[10:50] <dstaar1> like i said, i'll start applying in february, march.
[10:51] <slashtom> you mean like Twitter? ;)
[10:51] <dstaar1> twitter search for jobs in dublin is really great
[10:51] <BenChapman> dstaar1: Oh yeah, the irish twitter community is pretty close knit :) It's easy enough to find people and network!
[10:52] <BenChapman> other places to look would be http://www.thedigitalhub.com/ , http://www.gec.ie/
[10:52] <BenChapman> companies in there
[10:52] <BenChapman> Dogpatch Labs (a startup incubator) launches on Thursday, would be worth a look :)
[10:52] <dstaar1> i mean #ubuntu-ie is the best example, i appreciate your help and until now it seems pretty easy to get in contact with people
[10:52] <slashtom> i meant, that twitter is one of the latest dublin startups ;)
[10:53] <BenChapman> slashtom: not really a startup is it?
[10:53] <BenChapman> :/
[10:53] <dstaar1> slashtom: sorry didn't understand that :D
[10:54] <slashtom> right, i need to head outside to look for the satellite, bbl
[10:55] <dumb1224> I'm a bit confused...search for companies on twitter or jobs on twitter?
[10:55] <dstaar1> actually jobs, a search like: "jobs, dublin"
[10:56] <BenChapman> dumb1224: well if you network with irish people on twitter, particularly dev community then you'll likely find people who will gladly give your CV a bit of time
[10:56] <dumb1224> wow...and what tools you use to search tweets?some specialised webapp I suppose?
[10:56] <BenChapman> dstaar1: Not into web development at all are you? :p
[10:56] <ebel> yes, find companies on twitter and ask the,
[10:56] <ebel> Have a look at conferences in ireland, and look at the name of companies speaking/sponsoring them
[10:56] <BenChapman> That's how I got my first contract work:)
[10:57] <dstaar1> sometimes i do web development with rails or java ;)
[10:57] <dstaar1> dumb: i just use the web search or the twitter client in my phone
[10:57] <dumb1224> thanks for the tips
[10:58] <dstaar1> your welcome
[11:00] <dstaar1> my hope at all is to get in contact with people who hire, or getting hints for nice companies.
[11:00] <BenChapman> dstaar1: well, my company is pretty nice ;)
[11:01] <dstaar1> i mean in berlin it won't be a problem for me cause i know the community there ;)
[11:01] <dstaar1> benchapman: what's the name for your company?
[11:01] <BenChapman> http://disruptivedev.com/
[11:01] <BenChapman> but we primarily do php/mysql
[11:01] <BenChapman> that said, we're using java a lot lately
[11:02] <dstaar1> i'm flexible ;)
[11:02] <BenChapman> and looking to expand rapidly in the next year, so I'll keep you informed and in mind :)
[11:02] <dstaar1> sounds great :)
[11:02] <dstaar1> i'm the man you're looking for :D
[11:03] <dstaar1> i'm going to take my launch
[11:03] <dstaar1> see you later
[13:53] <dumb1224> hi,if I run ubuntu hardy, 8.04 pretty old release,
[13:53] <dumb1224> I find that packages available in 10.04 are not in the 8.04 repository
[13:54] <dumb1224> my source repository is the irish one, is that normal?
[13:54] <ebel> sometimes new packages are added
[13:55] <ebel> also old releases don't have the package repository anymore
[13:55] <BenChapman> ebel: is it possible to add the new repos to the old, or do you essentially end up dist-upgrading
[13:55] <BenChapman> ?
[13:55] <ebel> you'd have to upgrade
[13:56] <ebel> the old repos are still available at old-releases.ubuntu.com or something similar.
[13:56] <dumb1224> so the old release repository is not getting new packages?
[13:57] <ebel> you can't really add 10.04 repos to 8.04 OS. it just wouldn't pull packages from them
[13:57] <ebel> dumb1224: it won't get any updates or changes, not even security fixes.
[13:57] <ebel> There are very few good reasons *not* to upgrade.
[13:58] <dumb1224> ebel: hmmm.....it supposes to be a long term support release right?
[13:58] <ebel> long term support being 3 years on desktop, yes
[13:59] <dumb1224> right. I see what you mean. better keep up to date then
[15:50] <slashtom> "cztab playing with ubuntu for windows"??? - from the twitterweb
[15:56] <czajkowski> yes
[15:56]  * slashtom is confused
[15:57] <czajkowski> work
[15:58] <czajkowski> I use a windows desktop
[15:58] <czajkowski> but I still use U1
[15:58] <ebel> I saw you can stream music with U1. Do you use that?
[15:58] <slashtom> i thought you were an open source evangelist?
[15:59] <slashtom> isn't ubuntuone the music thing that doesn't work here?
[15:59] <ebel> partially works here.
[16:00] <ebel> But I'm unsure if streaming is different, since there are different licenceing models.
[16:00] <slashtom> this is why i like jamendo.com - it's the same everywhere, non-discriminatory
[16:00] <ebel> But I can't find out.
[16:00] <ebel> (well I haven't looked too hard yet, more curious about personal recommendations ATM)
[16:03] <slashtom> deadly, my super-TV-b-gone has shipped
[16:03] <slashtom> now i can end this torment of sports being shown in bars :P
[16:05] <czajkowski> ebel: did you apply for the Ubuntu offical book
[16:05] <ebel> czajkowski: ages ago
[16:06] <ebel> Is there a new one?
[16:06] <czajkowski> yeah
[16:06] <czajkowski> like people had to order a few months ago
[16:06] <czajkowski> if you didnt get it
[16:06] <czajkowski> you need to drop me a line with your details and I'll follow up on it
[20:43] <tdr112> evening