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| infinity | cjwatson: The vexpress kernel change recently had something to do with d-i targets, right? I was only vaguely paying attention. If you turn on the d-i vexpress build, that should take care of keeping it in main, I assume, so Martin will stop wondering if it needs demotion? :) | 08:53 |
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| cjwatson | infinity: right, was planning on it | 08:54 |
| cjwatson | that was bug 826021 | 08:54 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 826021 in linux-linaro-vexpress "Please re-enable crypto-modules udeb" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/826021 | 08:54 |
| cjwatson | let me test-build it first; I'll get back to you next week :-P | 08:56 |
| infinity | Hah. | 08:56 |
| infinity | I think we have a developer-accessible Panda in the DC... | 08:57 |
| cjwatson | Meh, I'm already on kakadu | 08:58 |
| infinity | Kay. | 08:59 |
| infinity | scheat.canonical.com should be the porter box. | 08:59 |
| infinity | And if I didn't have StrictHostKeyChecking on, I'd be logged in by now... | 08:59 |
| cjwatson | (is it just me who always thinks "kaaaakaaaaaaadoo doo doo push pineapple shake a tree"?) | 08:59 |
| infinity | adconrad@scheat:~$ dchroot -l | 09:00 |
| infinity | Available chroots: lucid, maverick, natty, oneiric [default] | 09:00 |
| infinity | Look at that. | 09:00 |
| infinity | Shiny. | 09:00 |
| cjwatson | awesome. | 09:00 |
| infinity | You can -j2! Tempting! | 09:00 |
| cjwatson | if I die of boredom waiting for kakadu then I'll try that. still on the first cup of coffee though so I might just fall asleep again. | 09:00 |
| CIA-45 | debian-installer: cjwatson * r1538 ubuntu/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Re-enable armel/linaro-vexpress and move it to 3.0.0-1007 kernels. | 09:14 |
| CIA-45 | debian-installer: cjwatson * r1539 ubuntu/ (build/config/armel/linaro-omap.cfg debian/changelog): Move armel/linaro-omap to 3.0.0-1007 kernels. | 09:16 |
| CIA-45 | debian-installer: cjwatson * r1540 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20101020ubuntu67 | 09:18 |
| CIA-45 | ubiquity: evand * r4989 trunk/scripts/install.py: Make the update process termination more consistent with the rest of ubiquity, and provide some logging to help further diagnose the bug. | 09:53 |
| CIA-45 | ubiquity: evand * r4990 trunk/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog debian/control): | 09:54 |
| CIA-45 | ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: console-setup | 09:54 |
| CIA-45 | ubiquity: 1.57ubuntu26, grub-installer 1.68ubuntu2, hw-detect 1.81ubuntu3, | 09:54 |
| CIA-45 | ubiquity: netcfg 1.68ubuntu5, partman-base 151ubuntu2. | 09:54 |
| CIA-45 | ubiquity: evand * r4991 trunk/scripts/install.py: Kill the entire process group, and with it, apt-get. | 10:33 |
| CIA-45 | ubiquity: evand * r4992 trunk/scripts/install.py: Remove duplicate errno import. Thanks pyflakes | 10:37 |
| cjwatson | I wish unity-2d worked properly in kvm | 10:41 |
| ogra_ | it doesnt ? | 10:41 |
| cjwatson | it sometimes sort of works but randomly breaks a lot for me; I can't really use kvm for ubiquity development any more | 10:41 |
| ogra_ | weird | 10:41 |
| * ogra_ hasnt seen much breakage since A1 in unity-2d | 10:42 | |
| ogra_ | cjwatson, might be the composite extension thats on by default, it doesnt do any harm on arm frambuffer but i could imagine it behaves different on vesa | 10:43 |
| ogra_ | iirc you can disable it in d-conf somewhere | 10:43 |
| ogra_ | (a metacity key) | 10:44 |
| ev | virtualbox has 3d driver support, for what it's worth | 10:45 |
| ev | the non-ose one, anyway | 10:45 |
| cjwatson | ogra_: that's always lots of fun to arrange on a live CD | 10:45 |
| ogra_ | hmm, if thats the case you might end up with compiz under unity-2d | 10:45 |
| cjwatson | ev: yeah, but I had a virtualisation tool already that was working fine :) | 10:45 |
| ev | and unrelated to testing live CDs, but http://www.vagrantup.com makes working with virtualbox quite nice | 10:46 |
| ev | cjwatson: indeed, I realize it didn't directly address your question | 10:46 |
| cjwatson | and lots of finger macros | 10:46 |
| ev | ah yes | 10:46 |
| ev | I think we should just go back to the days when we were being given vmware licenses like they were candy | 10:46 |
| cjwatson | it was a great day when I switched from vmware to kvm | 10:47 |
| ev | haha, oh yes, I'm forgetting the constant module breakage and workarounds | 10:47 |
| cjwatson | yep, looking up whoever it was's site somewhere in .cz for the latest runes | 10:47 |
| cjwatson | TBH I don't know that 3d support would improve things noticeably here, given that unity is sufficiently much more sluggish than unity-2d on my laptop that I switched to unity-2d | 10:48 |
| cjwatson | although to be fair I hear that they reckon they've fixed a lot of the leaks | 10:49 |
| ogra_ | no, but unity-2d (if you select the session in lightdm) forcefully uses metacity ... if the auto-fallback thing in the normal unity session kicks in it might use compiz with -2d | 10:49 |
| cjwatson | I want it to use metacity :) | 10:50 |
| ogra_ | right | 10:50 |
| cjwatson | oh I see what you mean | 10:50 |
| cjwatson | possibly | 10:50 |
| cjwatson | at least my networking is slowly getting less appalling; twice the bandwidth I had last week | 10:55 |
| cjwatson | (twice of not a lot is still not a lot, but even so) | 10:55 |
| CIA-45 | ubiquity: evand * r4993 trunk/ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py: Fix typo around setting the ATK name of widgets. Thanks unit tests. | 11:13 |
| CIA-45 | ubiquity: evand * r4994 trunk/ (151 files in 3 dirs): Update translations from Launchpad. | 11:15 |
| CIA-45 | ubiquity: evand * r4995 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.7.37 | 11:20 |
| cjwatson | hmm. my libsoup-based callback fetcher for the timezone page *seems* to be working, but some of the completions randomly don't seem to be filled in | 12:01 |
| cjwatson | maybe I'm calling set_model at the wrong time | 12:03 |
| cjwatson | ev: I'd appreciate your review of https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/ubiquity/libsoup-timezone/+merge/77324 | 12:46 |
| cjwatson | I think I've tested it about as well as I can now | 12:46 |
| cjwatson | I used 'sudo iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j DROP' to simulate the appropriate kind of lossy network | 12:47 |
| ev | cjwatson: will do! | 13:03 |
| cjwatson | (done a full test install with that on the nobbled network, succeeded) | 13:09 |
| CIA-45 | debian-installer: cjwatson * r1541 ubuntu/ (build/config/amd64/netboot.cfg debian/changelog): Bump amd64 netboot image size by another 256KiB. | 13:17 |
| CIA-45 | debian-installer: cjwatson * r1542 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20101020ubuntu68 | 13:18 |
| CIA-45 | ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: evand * r386 ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ (8 files in 2 dirs): | 13:35 |
| CIA-45 | ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: Update screenshots to reflect the latest desktop changes | 13:35 |
| CIA-45 | ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: (LP: #861410). | 13:35 |
| stgraber | cjwatson: two questions for you | 13:45 |
| stgraber | got RAOF to do some tests last night for bug 854967 | 13:45 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 854967 in friendly-recovery "boot to rescue mode in Oneiric" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/854967 | 13:45 |
| stgraber | apparently nouveau isn't affected by the problem but nvidia is, testers confirm setting gfxpayload=text works for them | 13:46 |
| stgraber | is that something you'd be fine with me changing in grub (only for the recovery entry)? | 13:46 |
| cjwatson | not in grub; that's what the gfxpayload blacklist is for surely | 13:46 |
| cjwatson | whatever the nvidia package is should probably blacklist nvidia cards | 13:47 |
| cjwatson | that way it won't be in place if the nvidia package isn't installed | 13:47 |
| stgraber | oh, that'd make sense indeed, I'm not really familiar with how that blacklist works. Will comment in the bug, re-assign to the nvidia package and then have a look at that blacklist | 13:48 |
| stgraber | cjwatson: second one is bug 848072 | 13:48 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 848072 in netcfg "[oneiric] net-installer dhcp client fails with a DHCPDECLINE" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/848072 | 13:48 |
| cjwatson | right, still in my review queue, your patch looked reasonable at first glance though | 13:48 |
| stgraber | perfect | 13:49 |
| stgraber | getting back to playing with nvidia hardware then, thanks! | 13:49 |
| cjwatson | might want to check with slangasek whether he minds nvidia being gfxpayload-blacklisted across the board; it would likely affect his flicker-free boot work | 13:49 |
| * cjwatson laboriously works on duplicating bug 851704 | 13:51 | |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 851704 in grub2 "GRUB reports error after successful installation (Alternate)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851704 | 13:51 |
| stgraber | ok, I'll poke slangasek about it, though testing on my nvidia system here currently gives me "BIOS => blank => cursor => plymouth => blank => lightdm" so not exactly flicker free :) | 13:53 |
| cjwatson | yeah, that's probably a good sign for blacklisting | 13:56 |
| cjwatson | right. excessively complex partitioning layout created, installing base system. time for coffee | 13:57 |
| ev | cjwatson: I've replied to the merge proposal with a question | 14:07 |
| ev | ooo, coffee is a good idea | 14:08 |
| ev | shame we're down to the grade 4 stuff (out of 10) | 14:08 |
| jibel | ev, I tried r4995 and 'download while installing' still fails. | 14:09 |
| ev | ARGH | 14:09 |
| ev | how on earth.. | 14:09 |
| jibel | ev, killpg should be called with the pgid not the pid but then it will also kill ubiquity which is a member of the same process group than update-apt-cache sudo being the parent process. | 14:09 |
| cjwatson | killing the pg sounds wrong. shouldn't the descendant processes die due to SIGPIPE or similar? | 14:12 |
| cjwatson | you aren't using the usual SIGPIPE fix when spawning update-apt-cache; I wonder if that matters | 14:13 |
| cjwatson | ev: I'll give http://paste.ubuntu.com/698518/ a try in a bit and see how that behaves; my previous attempts didn't seem to go well but I might have made a mistake | 14:15 |
| superm1 | cjwatson, i think there are two parts to that firewall bug. the geoname piece that you have that soup merge request, but there is also clock-setup's postinst which is calling rdate | 14:16 |
| cjwatson | superm1: clock-setup has its own timeout handling though | 14:16 |
| cjwatson | I'm a lot less concerned about that because AFAICS it doesn't break installation | 14:16 |
| cjwatson | if there are two parts, it should be two bugs | 14:17 |
| superm1 | oh clock-setup calls into tzsetup which is using wget with a 15 second timeout | 14:19 |
| jibel | superm1, clock-setup doesn't freezes the installer. | 14:19 |
| cjwatson | slowdown => not great; total freeze => baaaaaad | 14:20 |
| superm1 | yeah | 14:20 |
| charlie-tca | ev, cjwatson : Can one of you push the fix to bug 781385 out today? | 14:55 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 781385 in ubiquity "Ubiquity GTK should have useful accessible names set in the Glade .ui files instead of using the variable names" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/781385 | 14:55 |
| ev | charlie-tca: it's been uploaded, but there was a build failure | 14:56 |
| ev | in the process of sorting that out | 14:57 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you | 14:57 |
| ev | sure thing | 14:57 |
| CIA-45 | console-setup: cjwatson * r423 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog po/el.po po/fa.po po/he.po po/pa.po po/zh_TW.po): | 14:58 |
| CIA-45 | console-setup: Update Greek, Persian, Hebrew, Punjabi, and Traditional Chinese | 14:58 |
| CIA-45 | console-setup: translations from console-setup 1.68, fixing encoding problems | 14:58 |
| CIA-45 | console-setup: (LP: #860562). | 14:58 |
| CIA-45 | console-setup: cjwatson * r424 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.57ubuntu27 | 15:01 |
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| CIA-45 | ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: evand * r387 ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ (381 files in 7 dirs): Update translations from Launchpad. | 15:18 |
| CIA-45 | ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: evand * r388 ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 48 | 15:21 |
| cjwatson | ev: so we call jockey-text both in and out of the chroot? *scratches head* | 15:46 |
| ev | cjwatson: yes, because jockey-text -C (for the composite driver), run in the live system apparently ends badly | 15:47 |
| cjwatson | wait, simple-plugins shouldn't matter because that calls jockey-text without -C | 15:47 |
| ev | so both calls are intended to do different things | 15:47 |
| ev | the first call is for the broadcom driver | 15:47 |
| ev | the second call is for the nvidia driver | 15:47 |
| cjwatson | so I'm still confused | 15:47 |
| cjwatson | unless jockey is doing the wrong thing with locales | 15:48 |
| ev | but it's happening in the first call, no? | 15:48 |
| cjwatson | I don't think so - the log seems to show it being quite late in installation | 15:49 |
| cjwatson | it's after a bunch of packages being installed in the target, so it can't be prepare | 15:50 |
| ev | ah, I misread | 15:50 |
| cjwatson | I suppose we could try setting LC_MESSAGES too but WTF | 15:50 |
| cjwatson | very confused | 15:52 |
| ev | hm | 15:56 |
| cjwatson | and I can't see gettext.gettext (i.e. _) being broken with respect to LC_ALL handling | 15:58 |
| dmarkey | cjwatson: when is ubuntu-installer change freeze for Ocelot? | 19:13 |
| bdmurray | I neglected to mention bug 645449 this morning in our meeting | 19:17 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 645449 in ubiquity "Ubiquity hangs at Keyboard layout if you use keyboard to navigate / select" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/645449 | 19:17 |
| cjwatson | dmarkey: there isn't a particular installer freeze, we go with the freezes for the rest of the distribution; see the release schedule | 20:04 |
| dmarkey | cjwatson: so.. that would be tomorrow? :) | 20:09 |
| cjwatson | yes, although in practice we normally seek freeze exceptions for a number of late fixes | 20:11 |
| dmarkey | are you aware of anyone testing installing on Xen? | 20:12 |
| cjwatson | dmarkey: I did a set of tests at the end of last week and the start of this one, and fixed several bugs affecting Xen in all of lucid, maverick, natty, and oneiric | 20:37 |
| cjwatson | dmarkey: as far as I know it should now work fine in Xen | 20:37 |
| cjwatson | this was largely due to a friend of mine who runs a hosting company (www.jump.net.uk) who cornered me in the pub about it | 20:37 |
| cjwatson | of course I don't know what sort of variety there is in boot loader setups on Xen, so independent tests wouldn't hurt | 20:38 |
| bdmurray | bug 861609 is interesting since bug 442941 was fixed ... | 20:38 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 861609 in ubiquity "Installer failed - debconf passthrough issue" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/861609 | 20:38 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 442941 in ubiquity "debconf failed to upgrade from 1.5.27ubuntu1 to 1.5.27ubuntu2: exit status 128 - Use of uninitialized value $reply in scalar chomp at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Passthrough.pm line 66" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/442941 | 20:39 |
| dmarkey | cjwatson: do you know if they were using pygrub or not? | 20:39 |
| cjwatson | but it now (a) autoloads xen-{blk,net}front properly (b) actually honours grub-installer/grub2_instead_of_grub_legacy=false (c) knows how to install grub on /dev/xvd* | 20:39 |
| cjwatson | dmarkey: no, pv-grub | 20:39 |
| cjwatson | so maybe only (a) will be relevant to your setup | 20:39 |
| dmarkey | i see.. i'll test tomorrow | 20:39 |
| cjwatson | bdmurray: sort of thing where looking at the topmost symptoms may not be very helpful | 20:39 |
| dmarkey | if the grub.cfg hasnt changed, we should be file | 20:40 |
| bdmurray | cjwatson: where should I be looking? | 20:40 |
| cjwatson | the passthrough bits sound like a red herring | 20:41 |
| cjwatson | apt-setup failing with exit code 141: that's signal number (141-128) == 13 | 20:41 |
| cjwatson | 'kill -l' tells you that's SIGPIPE | 20:41 |
| cjwatson | which happens when a process tries to write to a pipe and all the processes reading from it have gone away | 20:42 |
| cjwatson | (mind you there is an *awful lot* of that passthrough noise isn't there) | 20:42 |
| cjwatson | what's all that "Reverting lockdown the desktop environment." stuff? | 20:43 |
| bdmurray | is this an upgrade using ubiquity? | 20:43 |
| cjwatson | hm, irrelevant I think | 20:43 |
| cjwatson | Sep 28 17:14:30 ubuntu kernel: [ 1384.574306] apt-cdrom[29439]: segfault at 4 ip 00a5de9e sp bfbb6b84 error 6 in libc-2.13.so[9c7000+176000] | 20:43 |
| cjwatson | doesn't look brilliant | 20:44 |
| CIA-45 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r4996 trunk/ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py: grammar | 20:44 |
| cjwatson | Sep 28 22:43:14 ubuntu ubiquity: /usr/lib/ubiquity/migration-assistant/ma-ask: 40: : Permission denied | 20:44 |
| cjwatson | gnome-control-center segfault earlier | 20:44 |
| cjwatson | I'm really not sure I can tell what's going on here | 20:44 |
| bdmurray | what's this? Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/ubnkern file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper quiet splash -- | 20:46 |
| cjwatson | somebody's homerolled boot-from-hard-disk system? not sure | 20:47 |
| cjwatson | don't know if it matters | 20:47 |
| cjwatson | the passthrough noise is basically a verbose way of saying "the thing I want to read replies from gave end-of-file instead" | 20:47 |
| bdmurray | okay that helps clarify things for me | 20:48 |
| cjwatson | where in this case that's probably coming from debconf-apt-progress wrapping apt-get update so that we get a progress bar around downloads | 20:49 |
| cjwatson | and the thing it's trying to read replies from is probably ubiquity | 20:49 |
| cjwatson | so it's very unclear what actually happened; the next step is to ask, if possible, for that to be reproduced with 'ubiquity -d' | 20:50 |
| cjwatson | maybe something has screwed up the debconf protocol pipe | 20:50 |
| cjwatson | all this kind of thing is basically bad response to an assertion failure - we could probably make it more graceful, but it wouldn't make the actual error go away :-( | 20:51 |
| CIA-45 | ubiquity: superm1 * r4997 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/plugins/ubi-partman.py): | 21:37 |
| CIA-45 | ubiquity: Preseed a bootloader target if one hasn't been set but running in | 21:37 |
| CIA-45 | ubiquity: automatic mode. (LP: #861465) | 21:37 |
| infinity | ev: What was the rationale for splitting out oem-config-slideshow? | 22:08 |
| infinity | ev: Other than one different stanza (which could, arguably, be a bug), it looks identical to ubiquity-slideshow. | 22:09 |
| infinity | cjwatson: Or you? Any idea on the above? | 22:26 |
| infinity | cjwatson: Not only does the split seem to not make a bunch of sense, but it also means that we don't get oem-config-slideshows for anything other than Ubuntu. (Yes, fixable, but I'm failing to see the point in the first place) | 22:27 |
| cjwatson | I'm not sure, it'd be an IRC-log-trawling exercise ... | 22:34 |
| cjwatson | I thought at one point they were intended to be qualitatively different slideshows | 22:34 |
| infinity | Possibly. | 22:34 |
| infinity | How would you feel about this, for graceful fallback? | 22:34 |
| infinity | === modified file 'ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py' | 22:34 |
| infinity | --- ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py2011-09-28 20:43:51 +0000 | 22:34 |
| infinity | +++ ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py2011-09-28 22:33:27 +0000 | 22:34 |
| infinity | @@ -782,7 +782,7 @@ | 22:34 |
| infinity | self.shutdown_button.hide() | 22:34 |
| infinity | 22:34 | |
| infinity | # Parse the slideshow size early to prevent the window from growing | 22:34 |
| infinity | - if self.oem_user_config: | 22:34 |
| infinity | + if self.oem_user_config and os.path.exists('/usr/share/oem-config-slideshow'): | 22:34 |
| infinity | self.slideshow = '/usr/share/oem-config-slideshow' | 22:34 |
| infinity | else: | 22:34 |
| infinity | self.slideshow = '/usr/share/ubiquity-slideshow' | 22:35 |
| infinity | Thus allowing people to still use oem-config-slideshow-* if/when they want to, but falling back to ubiquity-slideshow-* when not present? | 22:35 |
| infinity | Since the latter exists on all flavours. | 22:35 |
| infinity | cjwatson: Pasted, for marginally less ugliness: http://paste.ubuntu.com/698778/ | 22:38 |
| superm1 | by default the ubiquity slideshow is uninstalled after a run though before you get to oem config I thought | 22:38 |
| infinity | superm1: Not in every abusive case of oem-config. But fair point, that could explain the intent behind the split (though it seems poorly executed) | 22:39 |
| infinity | Given that the kde frontend doesn't know about oem-config-slideshow, and no flavours other than ubuntu have a package for it. | 22:40 |
| infinity | I'm tempted to make the above change just to fix things on preinstalled images anyway. I see no way it can cause regressions, just catches a weird use-case. | 22:43 |
| cjwatson | infinity: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/02/11/%23ubuntu-installer.html#t14:35 seems to be the origin | 22:45 |
| cjwatson | I have no problem with that graceful fallback; I don't see how it can make anything any worse | 22:46 |
| infinity | That IRC conversation is pretty light on details. Except, I guess it might have removed a dirty hack where you had to exclude ubiquity-slideshow-* from the live-manifest removal filter? | 22:47 |
| infinity | The hack seems better than packages with duplicate contents that seem to be slightly out of sync ;) | 22:47 |
| cjwatson | yeah, afraid I don't really remember | 22:48 |
| infinity | Well, not my pet project. I'm just going to commit the fallback. | 22:50 |
| infinity | And by "commit", I mean send you a patch. I seem to not be in that team anymore. ;) | 22:51 |
| infinity | cjwatson: I guess you could just remove Fabio from ~ubuntu-installer and add me. I'm sure I'd be 87% more useful. | 22:56 |
| infinity | cjwatson: Can you merge http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~adconrad/+junk/ubiquity/revision/4998 for me? | 23:25 |
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