dholbach | good morning | 07:02 |
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czajkowski | aloha | 08:09 |
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dscassel | paultag: You let mailing lists send notifications to your phone? | 14:28 |
* dscassel doesn't have a smart phone, but imagines he'd turn as much of that as he could off. | 14:28 | |
paultag | dscassel: Yes, since I'm on the loco-council | 14:32 |
paultag | dscassel: if someone has an issue and needs help, I want to help | 14:32 |
paultag | it's about the only list that high-volume would kill me on | 14:32 |
* paultag gets back to swearing at oricle | 14:32 | |
paultag | oracle | 14:32 |
dscassel | paultag: I suppose that's sensible. Your dedication is admirable. :) | 14:37 |
paultag | dscassel: well, I know what it's like to be ignored on a mailing list - I swore that i'd never ignore someone in need :) | 14:39 |
paultag | but those (two) threads were abuse of the bat-phone | 14:40 |
czajkowski | aloha | 14:40 |
paultag | howdy doodie czajkowski | 14:40 |
czajkowski | who highlighted us | 14:40 |
paultag | czajkowski: me | 14:40 |
paultag | I did not mean to | 14:40 |
paultag | sorry | 14:40 |
czajkowski | ah ok | 14:40 |
czajkowski | *wallop* | 14:41 |
paultag | :) | 14:41 |
paultag | JESUS CHRIST | 14:43 |
paultag | How does mailing the list again help?!?! | 14:43 |
paultag | Where's "Chuck Frain" | 14:44 |
marcus | i personally find it useful to share the information about that. | 14:45 |
paultag | marcus: yes, but when it's a back and forth coversation sending 5 emails in a minute | 14:45 |
paultag | it's something that should be done on IRC or off list | 14:45 |
paultag | and then condenced and pushed out | 14:46 |
paultag | we all get enough mail as-is, we don't need to re-hash everything on list | 14:46 |
marcus | maybe, but an email filter could also help if you feel disturbed | 14:46 |
paultag | in fact, I'm fairly sure all these topics are on the archives | 14:46 |
marcus | i think a list is meant for things like that | 14:46 |
paultag | marcus: I'm on the loco-council, like I said | 14:46 |
paultag | marcus: if I wanted to filter out mail for stuff i'm overseeing, I'd not be doing my job | 14:46 |
paultag | marcus: so next time, when you have a real problem, your mail gets trashed | 14:46 |
paultag | so I'll keep it as is | 14:46 |
paultag | just know it's pissing me off | 14:46 |
marcus | so there is no way to discuss inter-loco problems from what i hear now. | 14:47 |
paultag | marcus: I don't understand. | 14:47 |
marcus | for us it is important to know that otheres have not received the book, too. I thought the ml is the best way to reach them | 14:49 |
paultag | marcus: so email the loco-council about it | 14:49 |
paultag | This is the message on the mailing list: | 14:49 |
paultag | This is a low-volume mailing list for LoCo Team contacts. | 14:49 |
paultag | 5 mails a minute is not low-volume | 14:49 |
marcus | but are the loco contacts on the council list ? | 14:49 |
paultag | marcus: no, but they don't need to be | 14:50 |
marcus | how should i know then that others have the same problem | 14:50 |
paultag | marcus: AFAIK there is no one else who has had this problem | 14:50 |
marcus | then you might talk to the ubuntu-gr or the ubuntu-ma guys | 14:50 |
marcus | and that are only two i know of | 14:50 |
czajkowski | marcus: but it's nothing to do with us | 14:50 |
czajkowski | as I pointed out now a few times at least | 14:50 |
czajkowski | it's the publisher | 14:50 |
paultag | marcus: loco-contacts is "This is now ready for everyone - come and get it" or "We just did this awesome thing here, check it out" or stuff like that | 14:51 |
czajkowski | or if they did they followed the instructions and mailed the person in question as jono has said oin the mail | 14:51 |
paultag | or general discussion | 14:51 |
* paultag goes back to work | 14:51 | |
marcus | but it has been announced as it is something official | 14:51 |
paultag | marcus: so look at the thread in the archive | 14:52 |
paultag | marcus: it was talked about there | 14:52 |
czajkowski | it was on jonons blog and clearly states it has nothing to do with loco contacts or canonical or jono it has to do with the publsieher | 14:52 |
czajkowski | mabe the mail wasn't received on time | 14:52 |
czajkowski | but it's their call | 14:52 |
czajkowski | did you send it for the two teams your contact of | 14:52 |
marcus | i just dont like promises that are not kept | 14:52 |
paultag | marcus: We got a copy | 14:53 |
marcus | ok | 14:53 |
paultag | because we followed directions :) | 14:53 |
paultag | just sayn' | 14:53 |
czajkowski | marcus: you're the only one saying on the list, clearly if there were othrs we'd know there was an issue, and there isn't | 14:54 |
dscassel | I never heard back either, but I haven't actively pursued it or looked into it too deeply. | 14:56 |
dscassel | (I did put the order in. Can't remember if I followed instructions to the letter) | 14:57 |
dscassel | I've also already got a copy of the book from a conference pack. The only thing I wanted this one for was to send off to some other city as a reward for being awesome. | 14:58 |
marcus | czajkowski, "Our LoCo did all of the above as well but we never heard back from Heather!" Michael Kotsarinis on the list a few minutes ago | 14:58 |
* dscassel totally acknowledges there's not much the LC can do... | 14:58 | |
marcus | maybe the lc could get in contact with Heather (i do not even have her address) | 14:59 |
czajkowski | dscassel: THANK YOU!!!! | 15:00 |
czajkowski | marcus: it's in the post!!!!! | 15:01 |
czajkowski | email her | 15:01 |
marcus | in general i do not like the tone here either. | 15:01 |
czajkowski | I've asked someone else to help me get more information | 15:02 |
czajkowski | but at the end of the day it's not a loco council issue | 15:02 |
czajkowski | the best we can do is see if we can find more info for folks but it's not our area and has nothing to do with us | 15:02 |
marcus | maybe, but at the end of the day i feel left alone and pissed off | 15:02 |
czajkowski | is all myself and paultag are trying out best to explai | 15:02 |
paultag | marcus: I've had a super shitty day and it's not really your fault | 15:02 |
czajkowski | marcus: but taking it out on us isn;'t gonna help | 15:02 |
marcus | ok | 15:03 |
marcus | np | 15:03 |
marcus | i will try to get in contact with heather and send a little update mail on the list if i got an reply (if i am allowed to and not treated as spam) | 15:03 |
czajkowski | marcus: nobody is saying your posts are spam | 15:05 |
czajkowski | just the ml gets little traffic | 15:05 |
marcus | it just gave me that feeling | 15:05 |
czajkowski | and it's been replying over one thread back and forth and the info was thre | 15:05 |
czajkowski | nobody said your mail was spam | 15:05 |
paultag | I might have insinuated it | 15:05 |
marcus | to be concrete czajkowski i have overread the info (heathers email) due to font size change in you mail | 15:06 |
marcus | my brain treated the sentence as signature or something like that | 15:06 |
czajkowski | I'm sorry the mail appeared that way | 15:07 |
czajkowski | using a web based client at work | 15:07 |
czajkowski | and trying to help to resolve the issues for you | 15:07 |
marcus | ok, i think we can solve that issue. | 15:08 |
AlanBell | czajkowski: fwiw I sent a mail request for the book too, following the instructions to the letter | 15:31 |
czajkowski | I've juse sent a mail asking from the lc point of view if there is any issue | 15:31 |
czajkowski | it's not our area but we'll try and help | 15:31 |
czajkowski | the issue re ordering cd's on the form and it saying natty has now been resolved | 15:36 |
AlanBell | yay | 15:47 |
czajkowski | see I do get stuff right ocassionally | 15:57 |
czajkowski | marcus I beleieve you will be getting a mail now from heather | 16:00 |
czajkowski | AlanBell: I mentioned your team also | 16:00 |
AlanBell | cool | 16:01 |
czajkowski | also ther was a limited supply as far as I can tell | 16:01 |
AlanBell | I don't have a plan of what to do with the book so I never followed up | 16:01 |
AlanBell | but if paultag got a copy then some must have gone out | 16:02 |
paultag | AlanBell: ohio | 16:02 |
paultag | I got a copy, but it was as a reviewer | 16:02 |
AlanBell | wonder if it was a US thing | 16:02 |
paultag | personally, that is | 16:02 |
paultag | ohio got one too | 16:02 |
AlanBell | I got one in a conference pack, it was a prize for a quiz night | 16:03 |
AlanBell | went to a gentoo user as we considered her to be the person who was most in need of it | 16:03 |
akgraner | NC got their copies as well | 16:04 |
akgraner | copy | 16:04 |
pleia2 | I followed-up with heather in august, our book are finally in the mail (I sent an email to the list saying so) | 16:04 |
* AlanBell wonders if international shipping wasn't part of the deal | 16:04 | |
czajkowski | seems to be an issue with teams outside of the USA mostly | 16:17 |
CrazyLemon | is there any way to see who's admin of our loco mailing list? | 19:43 |
pleia2 | CrazyLemon: at the bottom of the listinfo page you should see: ubuntu-blah-blah is run by | 19:51 |
pleia2 | like https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca has: Ubuntu-us-ca list run by lyz at ubuntu.com, david.wonderly at kubuntu.org, jdeslip at gmail.com | 19:51 |
CrazyLemon | pleia2 hmm..i don't see that kind of info at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-si | 19:53 |
pleia2 | CrazyLemon: ah, in that case the only way to get ahold of them is emailing ubuntu-si-owner@lists.ubuntu.com | 19:54 |
CrazyLemon | pleia2 awesome..thanks alot | 19:55 |
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